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Previous Thread: >>8356889

>LOCAL UI
A1111: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui
Forge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge | Alternative version (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge
Comfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI

>LOCAL MODELS
Pony: https://civitai.com/models/404802 | https://civitai.com/models/288584 | https://civitai.com/models/257749
Illustrious: https://civitai.com/models/795765

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3
NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api

>RESOURCES
Wiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples | https://openart.ai/workflows/templates
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070 | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://www.iopaint.com/install
Upscalers: https://openmodeldb.info
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
Illustrious-related: https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuff
Useful Nodes/Extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgnew/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
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>>8359160
Previous Thread Highlights

TH_24-12-10_-hdg-_a.jpg
>https://files.catbox.moe/lxgazl.jpg

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>https://files.catbox.moe/xo69u5.jpg
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>>8359161
kill yourself
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>>8359161
Twin santa girls made it

Christmas thread
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>>8359167
atp this has to be a samefag
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I'm sliding my window so hard right now bros my little commander hurts alot
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>1girl, pointy ears, white hair, green eyes, twintails, petite
>1girl, purple hair, purple eyes, hime cut, large breasts
Characters so complex they are impossible to gen without Loras or full 6M image finetunes.
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>>8359161
Kill yourself.
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How DARE L-A-X upload an image from le private discord channel. You tell him, Madman404!
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>>8359185
where's the discord screenshot? looking myself is too hard, I might catch residual troonery
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>>8359185
Since when was a quote the same as an image sar?
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So how is SORA?
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>>8359182
Natty gens or controlnet? Tried that pose before on natty it's a bitch.
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>>8359188
There is no quote you bloody bitch bastard! I will fucking your mother.
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>>8359194
DO NOT REDEEM WHY PING
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The more you act like a retard, the more you become the retard.
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>>8359198
that's my secret cap, I've always been retarded
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>>8359191
No controlnet. I think the "back-to-back" tag is helping at least keep them close like that. However getting him to grab the inner breasts near the penis is proving to be harder.
https://files.catbox.moe/hkfcay.png
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Why is madman so mad?
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>>8359199
What's the point of this bland, thick lined style? It's simple in an ugly way that's only a step removed from /aco/.
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>>8359204
What's the point of this bland, thin skinned comment? It's simple in an ugly way that's only a step removed from /trash/.
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>>8359204
yeah it's pretty ugly
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>>8359204
pedos are somehow except from style rules
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>>8359205
Objectively incorrect. /Trash/ would asslick your ugly gen style, /hdg/ refines your taste with honest criticism.
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>>8359204
Thank God I'm not the only one who hates that look
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https://litter.catbox.moe/50gg19.jpg
My style rules. You will never guess what secret artist I added to the mix for this one.
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>>8359161
>one of my really old gens posted by someone else made the highlights.
kek, I don't even have to post in this thread to make the highlights.
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>>8359210
can't be nyantcha
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I dunno where else to ask this, but are there any good alternatives to Character.ai for a chatbot? The two things I really like about it are the text-messaging style messages it sends and how after a period of inactivity it'll message you unprompted. I'm looking for an alternative that doesn't have a filter to it, because getting around it is really really annoying and breaks up the conversation too much.
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>>8359210
I feel kinda sorry that you're not getting any engagement lately. Let me fill in, should I hate on your gens or praise you for being the last effort poster left? What would you prefer?
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>>8359214
local :DDDDDD
better get that quad 3090, sonny
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>>8359214
Unironically local - I run chatbots locally with KoboldAI as the backend and SillyTavern as the GUI
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>>8359214
Idk if it's any better but the LLM based thread in g might have more answers
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>>8359214
there's a chatbot/textgen general bwo
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>>8359217
But what model tho? Not like someone who used character.ai before has the hardware to run more than a gimped stheno
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aicgtroons -> out
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https://files.catbox.moe/nvshoc.jpg
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>>8359230
can you make it less ugly
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>>8359231
Can you rephrase this without sounding mad?
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>>8359202
nice
>>8357117
https://files.catbox.moe/859a5y.png
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Thanks for the towel, anon. Run along now.
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>>8359161
what a shame, feels like highlightanon doesnt like my slop
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>>8359223
What I would recommend depends on your VRAM.

How much do you have?
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tis the season
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>>8359215
Real creatives (like myself) don't do it for "engagement".
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>>8359232
probably, why do you ask
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>>8359235
because it's not moe
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>>8359236
24gb + another 32gb sysram
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>>8359239
bzzzt! sorry anon! that reply is an affirmation but you didn't follow through!
you know what that means! you're being passive aggressive, which is definitely maaaaaaad!
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>>8359199
Bro... you forgot to post your catbox? https://files.catbox.moe/1u5ezs.png
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>>8359243
oddly enough it's a PNG for once
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>prompt bedroom on vpred .75
>all the backgrounds are blue
yeah i think im sticking with 1.1
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>>8359248
ased
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>>8359240
is this moe?
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>>8359252
kinda fried and hyper. somewhat moe apart from that
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>>8359252
slightly moreso

bro, just look at the fucking highlights and compare them 1 to 1 to your gen. there are MANY things it's missing
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>>8359256
But the highlights were never moe...
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>>8359249
you're supposed to use rescale cfg or a pp sampler according to the guide.
https://d0xb9r3fg5h.feishu.cn/docx/YpOQdtHTDoetcZxIO9fc33onnee
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>>8359259
cfg rescale is dogshit
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Nobody said the highlights are meant to highlight GOOD gens.
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NAI were the ones that gave us clip_skip -2
NAI were the ones that gave us SMEA
NAI were the smart ones to separate anime and e621
NAI will be the ones to give us 16ch VAE
Face it, without NAI local would be lost.
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>>8359260
?
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>>8359204
I think it's nice. It's one of the least egregious styles posted in these threads.
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>>8359262
Shush, cuckie.
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So how it is perpendicular cyberfix for you anons? I've been testing and seems good so far.

https://civitai.com/models/1001795

what does perpendicular means tho?
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>>8359266
beyond 0.6 noob is just a lost cause
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>>8359262
>clip_skip -2
can this even be used with local? reforge just reverts to a positive number when I try and comfy outputs noise if I add it
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>>8359267
proof?
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>>8359208
>honest criticism

>aco!
>fried!
>your style is trash because I said so!
>not enough cock!
>not enough cum!
>omg is that a... BLACK GUY?!
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>>8359268
>clip_skip -2
That was 1.5 era only
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>>8359241
You can run Magnum-v4-27b at a high quant (QK_M) at full speed. Cydonia-22B-v1.3 at full speed at an even higher quant.

You could run Noromaid-v0.4-Mixtral-Instruct-8x7b-Zloss with Q4_0 quant at a slightly slower speed, or you could run it with a lower quant at full speed

If you don't care about speed:
Midnight-Miqu-70B-v1.5
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>>8359271
Those are perfect examples of taste refining, proper criticism. Glad you understand.
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>>8359272
well that explains it
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https://files.catbox.moe/ghrnay.png
'Cord discussing penis sizes.
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>>8359266
what is the best vae for noob vpred? I see someone is using "fixFP16ErrorsSDXLLowerMemoryUse_v10" dunno why
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>>8359266
It's been great so far, I haven't done anything complex or really /h/ with it tho
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>>8359271
all of those things are bad though?
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>>8359274
>taste refining
"Refining" as in "polishing and sanding off all the edges until you get a perfect, shiny sphere that looks like everyone else's shiny sphere."
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>>8359277
HOLY SHIT LMAO
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>>8359266
there is a vpred perp cyberfix itercomp 0.75 version if you guys want to test it, here https://huggingface.co/Doctor-Shotgun/NoobAI-XL-Merges/tree/main
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>>8359282
>noooooooo how could people think my taste is bad :(
yer an artist harry
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>>8359256
sorry I cant see shit on the phone, genning from work is a mistake
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>>8359208
neo /hdg/ doesn't do that anymore, it's only
>uhhh that's /e/ chud
>where is cum
>where is cock
>now make her nude (I fucking hate you, you know who you are)
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>>8359287
thats why i remote in
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>>8359249
I got the same on vpred 0.6 a few times, so it affects the earlier ones too. I suspect they wanted to quickly show off the wider color range of vpred and so added something very stupid to the dataset. Because we've seen a vpred conversion before with EasyFluff, and it didn't have these issues.
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>>8359283
Did she have some kind of developmental disability in the story? Never read the vn and the anime was kinda vague about it
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>>8359286
You got that backwards. Your taste is bad; you're just oblivious to it. :)
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>>8358980
Any chance you do this for the Rouwei vpred? The cyberfix version you dropped is ALMOST there.
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>>8359293
I think she's legit retarded, but the story doesn't address it directly. She's not even the worst mental case, between the mad scientist and the crossdresser
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>>8359267
reforge guy here, ok did a 0.60 vpred. not sure if someone will use it tho, but it is uploaded

https://civitai.com/models/1001795?modelVersionId=1150735
https://files.catbox.moe/8xa575.png

Also I'm uploading them now on HF as well if someone wants to get them from here (I feel it's faster than civitai? but some people seem to love the latter)
>>8359278
I use "vae_trainer_step_90000_noob.safetensors", but the fixFP16 is fine as well

>>8359279
Great, nice to know

>>8359285
Yeah, Doc did those as well. I tested it but i feel the saturation goes to the moon, but still a very good model
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>>8359214
>>>/g/aicg/
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>>8359273
Thx
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>>8359299
hmm vpred0.60 has more soul
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>>8359297
sure, Rouwei 0.6 or 0.6.1?
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0.65s was the last good model
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>>8359308
We saw your slop the first time
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>>8359310
I know you did, and now I know you saw it again. Thanks, I needed that (you).
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>>8359303
I guess 0.6.1? That's the cyberfix you dropped and is cooking for me. Like the only problem is that when you want a somewhat dark scene, this fucking thing has no concept of shades of darkness and just drops all the contrast on you. Not sure if 0.6 would be any different.
Thanks btw!
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>>8359310
it's worse than the groid spammer regular posts desu, that post alone might actually convince me to stop coming here
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Why are people being so mean to everyone that are posting images today :(
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>when you need to study for exams, but the sex-crazed JAV-actress that you are fwb with won't let you rest
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>>8359320
ngl, never happened to me
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>>8359316
okay, did 0.6.1 then, not sure how many people use rouwei but hope it works for you
https://civitai.com/models/1019366
https://files.catbox.moe/0q8b8o.png
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>>8359320
not a fan of this.
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>>8359281
>>8359283
I can't believe she's tutturuing my tutu
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>>8359320
if only the guy didn't have the legs/torso of a 6 year old this image would of been perfect
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>>8359323
>and because of this, it should greatly improve the anatomy knowledge of any model
post non cherrypicked examples
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>shitmix on top of shitmix
Local
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>>8359327
t b h it's just a copy paste from the original cyberfix model description https://civitai.com/models/913998/noobaicyberfix
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>>8359326
>study for exams
>child-like legs

Pretty sure he's supposed to be a shota, anon
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Since nai v4 training was announced publicly, how long until it's expected for the new model to release?
A month? A year?
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>>8359249
>>8359292
It's a byproduct of vpred. you must use rescale cfg or a proper sampler.
>but this other model doesn't do it!
it's not vpred.
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>>8359330
>copy paste from the original
>improve the anatomy knowledge of any model
shouldnt matter doe
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>>8359323
I've never had luck with any of them but your cyberfix one just werks. A lot of my saved artist mix prompts show a lot of fidelity to the source artist which is awesome. Much appreciated, Pancho!
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>>8359331
Maybe he's a cripple and the muscles in his legs atrophied
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>>8359338
Make-a-Wish JAV star
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>>8359333
was this announced publicly? It should take ~2 weeks to train, if all they need to do is fire up the h100s.
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>>8359331
could of been a highschool/college student with that long dick of his
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>>8359333
They have so many H100s that I'm impressed it's not out yet
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>>8359341
>>8359331
>>8359326
>All this cope over a model simply having dogshit anatomy
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>>8359334
nai3 isn't vpred?
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>>8359344
Wasn't the e6 data supposed to fix that or whatever?
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>>8359346
It's not "true vpred". The question is, does it matter when our "true vpred" model looks worse.
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/hdg/ -> complaining about models
Can you guys post more ai hentai?
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>>8359347
it's euge
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>>8359349
infinity doesn't exist in real life sis
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>>8359352
I'm not your sis, bro
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>>8359350
This place hates NAI so no
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>>8359355
Stroking....
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>>8359212
I like to repost good gens made by people here.
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>>8359357
retard
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>>8359212
i reposted like 30 gens in a thread once (all from earlier this year) and half of them were in the highlights, it was funny
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>>8359357
Fuck you. The nigger that reuploads all my shit to aibooru is bad enough. My art is beautiful because it is fleeting.
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>My art
Heh. Hahahaha.
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>>8359362
stay mad artist, we are AI artists
>wahhhhh
kekaroo
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>>8359363
why are you brown?
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>>8359357
>>8359360
Well, better than nogening. I'm glad someone enjoyed my taste.
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>>8359355
Nice gen
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>>8359322
Guess her contract was with the gangbang devil KEK
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repost your favorite gens bros <3
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>>8359371
What in the anatomical horror is that
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>>8359372
clearly you dont refine pony with animagine
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>>8359373
That was the funniest meme of the pony-era for sure
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>>8359372
thats a biblically accurate angel you philistine
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>our art
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>>8359372
Don't look
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>>8359293
i didn't read the vn so...
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>>8359380
you did though? Why are you forgetting
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>>8359381
i only read KS DDLC muvluv and umineko. fsn intro was soooo fuckin boring
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>>8359386
Super cute
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>>8359390
>fsn intro was soooo fuckin boring
>read all of muvluv
so you actually enjoed MLE?
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>>8359390
>fsn intro was soooo fuckin boring
And tsukihime gets a remake? What a sick joke
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>>8359392
some of it was a skill issue to be fair
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I should read umineko instead of arguing over computer hallucinations
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https://litter.catbox.moe/dv0g7q.png
Yeah I'm thinking based.
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>>8359397
just make sure to power through act 2, it's thematically important even though it's boring
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>>8359397
read the manga instead
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>>8359404
dont
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>>8359406
it's a good adaptation though?
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>>8359407
But does it have a killer ost?
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>>8359407
the art is good but ep8 is too easy to get confused with compared to the vn. and >>8359408
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>>8359409
>ep8 is too easy to get confused with compared to the vn
i havent read til there yet but i heard it was actually dumbed down for the manga
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>>8359397
Waste of time.
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>>8359412
This. Play girls front line 2 instead
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>>8359386
box?
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>>8359413
when will a non gacha have the production quality that game has
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>>8359411
yeah and thats the problem
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>>8359416
i'd rather not read through ryukishi's unedited ramblings
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>>8359202
mirin
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>>8359417
don't make me bust out the r07 lora
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>>8359421
if you're not genning ciconia i dont wanna see em
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>>8359422
kek
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>>8359417
Based. Ryukishi is such an incredibly shit writer that it's almost impressive in a way that he made a living out of it.
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anyone who's on comfy, try this sigma schedule with latest vpred

(4518.8, 160.0, 134.08, 111.85, 92.849, 76.689, 63.001, 51.464, 41.787, 33.713, 27.016, 21.492, 16.967, 13.284, 10.309, 7.9238, 6.0284, 4.5358, 3.3718, 2.4738, 1.7892, 1.2738, 0.89134, 0.61183, 0.41109, 0.26967, 0.17219, 0.10661, 0.063726, 0.036566, 0.02, 0.0)

it's a modified karras (very likely similar to what nai uses) and it fixes oversaturation
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>>8359428
unmmmm.... no
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>>8358821
>>8358682
Just what are you anons >implying?
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>>8359428
>10.309, 7.9238, 6.0284
How do you know where I buried them?
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>>8359428
DON'T DO THAT IT CREATES MUSTAR-ACK
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>>8359428
my ksampler just walked out of my comfyui...
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>>8359430
why is it so unfunny?
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why does it refer to itself in third person?
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who is """it"""
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why is it defending the faggot?
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>>8359437
artist mix?
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>>8359431
You can't show minors drinking alcohol!
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>>8359202
Bless.
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>>8359442
its a repost
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anyone had much luck with squirrel girl?
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>>8359446
huh?
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>>8359446
Who?
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>>8359443
I guess she must not be a minor, then. Bars take their age gates very seriously.
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>>8359450
why are her thighs longer than her torso
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>>8359428
you are making me type this all out
i swear to god if this is just snake oil
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>>8359452
https://files.catbox.moe/jc50ep.webp
This is not impossible, anon.
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>finally get a version of the style lora that i like
>it has dogshit character comprehension
at least it works ok in a mix
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>>8359446
That's firmly in >>>/aco/ territory. They might know.
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>>8359457
Nah she's hentai.
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>>8359453
please share results I don't want to have to type it all out too
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xovaryu kill yourself
you're a waste of oxygen, blood and organs
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>>8359428
>No one posts results
It creates ketchup gas, doesn't it
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i have an image i could post if anyone is interested...
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>>8359472
She better have MASSIVE tits, anon
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>>8359473

box?
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ironically adding "anime" to any flux gen makes it unusable dogshit
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>>8359477
>using flux
jej
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>>8359386
Mentally ill lolita fashion girls are peak
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>>8359469
no one uses comfy
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https://litter.catbox.moe/256j6x.jpg
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>>8359493
This didn't happen.
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Not what I was going for but I felt it worth sharing.
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>>8359428
any way to do this on reforge?
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>>8359495
Everything happened.

https://litter.catbox.moe/y4ufcb.jpg
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>>8359498
i think there was an extension to modify sigmas but idk whether you can do that there
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>train lora of a character with a green skin colour
>works well solo
>when trying it with multiple characters it changes the other character to be green while the one the lora was trained for becomes white
>white skin in neg prompt doesn't work
What gives?
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>>8359518
racism
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>>8359518
I also have trouble making more than 1 dark skinned female. The struggle is real.
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how do people gen really detailed full body pictures? even with adetailer and hires fix + upscaled, it seems like they're just "meh" and limited to how much the initial gen managed to shit out. is there some way to like, gen each piece of the image in its own little section with full pixel detail then stitch that together?
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>>8359514
I like the style and setting you have there anon but
>bro has two belly bottoms
>bro also has very weird fingers, may as well just hide them completely
>bro balls have weird things around them
>girl has weird fingers on both hands
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>>8359533
its vpred
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>>8359531
Multi-stage img2img upscale and inpainting of individual sections/quadrants of the image at high resolution.
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>>8359536
thanks fren, gonna see if I can wrangle an uncoomfy WF into doing this automatically
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>>8359531
How much detail and how much "full body" are you looking for? you can only go so far
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>>8359299
>>8359266
whats the verdict on the best cyberfix one? i see mostly either .75 non s or .6
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>>8359496
box?
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>>8359544
https://files.catbox.moe/pfcsgz.png
Picrel is what I was going for, more or less. Couldn't come up with a good artist mix this time around.
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>>8359266
that looks so over-trained on genshin ingame screenshots lol
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Openpose has been giving me fucked up results after I updated Forge. What gives?
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>>8359550
cat website, chud
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Just a crumb of screenshots to make me cum please
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>>8359552
We don't gen here, we just bitch about genning.

what do you want?
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is euge using golden noise
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>>8359248
Nice. Box please?
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>>8359533
i figured out part of my issue was AYS, it was long past time to switch to uniform
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>>8359578
align your steps fool
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>>8359584
no im going to give a full week to uniform and schizo tuning beta
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>>8359463
it doesnt fry on cfg 5 and vpred 0.6 anymore but idk what kinds of side effects it could have
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ass cat
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>>8359585
I really like Beta but it doesn't work with vpred. At least on reforge.
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>>8359589
you can break it into alpha and beta components on comfy
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>>8359590
nta, you also can on reforge, which values do you use?
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>>8359593
.6 alpha .5 beta, 30 steps, dpm++ 2m sde cfg++
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>>8359593
How would a retarded coomer go about this?
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>>8359601
based
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https://litter.catbox.moe/yvw559.jpg
Happy Mother's Day
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>>8359597
box?
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>>8359578
ays does not work as intended with vpred, i personally recommend sgm uniform
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>>8359629
Really? But i still like it...
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>>8359230
Metadata please?
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>>8359631
Catbox?
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Is implied still /h/?
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https://litter.catbox.moe/mva6p1.jpg
Alright I must sleep now. Long day at the lithium mines tomorrow.
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I've been trying both vpred 75 and 75s but both seem to be very inconsistent for some reason. A lot of anatomy issues when it works, a lot of body horror and deformities at its worst. I'm not really sure what I'm missing here.
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>>8359639
no, but this is a good gen, so I'll let if pass

The truth (that the people on this board who complain about their posts getting deleted don't want to hear) is that people will let any gen slide as long as it's good enough
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>>8359631
what style is this
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>>8359643
same prompt on personal merge, is vpred just fucked?
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>>8359643
>>8359648
Uuuuh... Vpred is clearly superior tho? Literally sovl vs slop.
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>>8359160
Previous Thread Highlights

>TH_24-12-10_-hdg-_a.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/fa990t.jpg

>TH_24-12-10_-hdg-_b.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/kys123.jpg

>TH_24-12-10_-hdg-_c.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/d1ek3k.jpg
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>>8359665
based based
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>>8359667
hagbox?
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>>8359629
>>8359634
It's not that it doesn't work it just produces extreme randomness to your prompt. As in, you'll still get remotely what you're prompting but with variables. It's not the worst thing if you'd like to get some creative gen of what you want but definitely not a scheduler if you're prompting something specific in mind. Better to stick to SGM, DDIM, Simple/Normal for that.
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>>8359667
why is she melting
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>>8359648
>is vpred just fucked?
It is. hdg is trying to cosplay as big boys who are too cool for eps now despite happily eating ponyslop for months, but truth is, noob vpred bakes are broken fried garbage.
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>>8359648
Yeah. It's definitely a crap shoot with more complex prompts and once you add more than one toon. For your gen though, it shouldn't be that fucked. 1girl'ing isn't an issue with vpred. It's just once you add sexooooo with some creativity into the mix that it starts to fall apart.
For starters, don't use AYS. Drop your CFG to about 3 - 5. Euler A is fine but try something more constant like DM++ 2M, SDE, SDE 2M & SDE 3M. Shit is so fried that samplers/schedulers have so much impact on it.
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>>8359674
what negs and pos tags?
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>>8359674
sde doesnt converge too though
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>>8359677
bro, I'm scared to use anything in neg's outside of "worst quality, low quality, bad quality" on it. It's the most temperamental model ever. In pos, just plain masterpiece, best quality.
I mean, on one hand I don't mind getting off the schizo prompting but even so. It's a bit extreme about it.
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>>8359677
pos: masterwork,best quality, very awa (optional)
negs:worst quality, + whatever you dont want to see
negs for quality are snake oil
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>>8359682
i mean masterpiece lmao
cant go wrong
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>>8359686
Based masterworker.
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judging from my cunny /aco/-ish artist testing, who have different watermarks between their "normal" content and "cunny" content, vpred dataset differs from eps one. vpred has their "cunny" content in dataset because it replicates their watermarks perfectly, while eps one only gens their "normal" content watermark.
>ponpu \(pumpkinsinclair\)
>andava (lilandy)
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>>8359692
>andava (lilandy)
u-uooooooooh
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>>8359692
Based cunny detective (Also based and cute Euge who's in charge of the inclusion of cunny to vpred bake)
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>>8359698
upon further investigation (exactly 2 more gens) i think it was added after vpred 0.6.
maybe those were not cosplay images after all...
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>>8359699
Wait a second... Cosplay Photos...Cheese Pizza... C...
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>>8359692
>>8359699
yeah... i think i'm just hallucinating...
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>>8359639
Anon-san, catbox?
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Imagine being a pedo in this economy
https://files.catbox.moe/xbvf6b.png
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>>8359588
I want to spank that cat ass!
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>>8359648
>>8359643
based priest enjoyer
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How does one determine if a lora is actually good or not? Like, what should I be testing with xy plots?
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>>8359733
sexy kayoko
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>>8359732
Depends on what kind of lora you're testing. Style, character and concept loras will all need to be tested in slightly different ways
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>>8359735
It's a style lora and so far I've just been putting in random scenarios. It works, just questioning if it's "good" or not
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>>8359736
For style loras you want to test how well they interact with the built-in style tags and other style loras, what the lora looks like from -2 to 2 strength, and test situations as far apart from the dataset as possible to see if it can generalize well. Also if you have them, test different epochs and with or without activation tags as well.
I always felt like style lora testing was the easiest. It's pretty much if it works or not.
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>>8359736
do a xy with and without and see how much it impact the pose and composition, the ideal lora has no impact on the pose/composition of the pictures but a slight deviation is fine
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why do I always get covered pussy when prompting anal, was even getting that on pony, kind of weird
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>>8359733
Box? Nice shading
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>>8359740
https://files.catbox.moe/ic2rwd.png
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https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/jacket_on_shoulders
https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/coat_on_shoulders
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>>8359443
It's pee.
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>>8359754
hell yeah
malinbox?
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>>8359758
It's not pure t2i, I scribbled a shitty doodle and used it with mistoline controlnet to get the composition and then fixed some small details with inpaint.
<https://files.catbox.moe/1xksna.png>
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>>8359756
squishable thighs
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>>8359763
why is the coach crying?
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>>8359765
He's being blackmailed and forced to cheat on his wife and mother of his 6 children by this JK slut.
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>>8359765
Loss of innocence.
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>>8359765
I'd cry to for that tomboy pussy
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>>8359769
>>8359763
Homunculus style? Is that a lora?
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>>8359761
aw, well stil nice, gonna try to make it more consistent with just t2i then
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>>8359773
yeah its actually a pony trained lora I just increase the strength
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>>8359766
Based lore enjoyer
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>>8359756
caution bro I got banned for posting traps
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>>8359639
yes because implied is not allowed on /e/
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>>8359786
miquella or smtv protag box?
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>>8359788
It is a slippery slope though because then you can just say every 1girl sitting is where she is implied penetration of her sitting on a dildo. Or every 1girl standing is implied footjob off screen. You don't want to allow too much implied sex gens because then you end up no different than /e/.

I think it's best to have the penis or phallic object clearly defined and visible in the image.
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>>8359791
based
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>>8359793
This. I think we must contact mods and make them reconsider the rules, make them clarify what percent of the picture a juicy cock and thick cum must take in order to be /hdg/ (rest of /h/ doesn't care) compliant.
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>>8359793
bait
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>>8359800
dumb cat
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>>8359791
>>8359756
Oh nyoooooo~
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>>8359791
>>8359756
The janny has gone insane.
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>>8359793
You're overthinking it, Redditor-chan.
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And this is why I don't post my gens here.
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>>8359811
Good? There's an entire board for /y/ images
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>NOOOOO rules are not important and I can break them whenever I feel like it!!!!
Go the fuck back, leftie. Rules are there for a reason, not for you to break them because you feel like a smartass.
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Wannabe janny schizos are awake, I see.
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>>8359811
>post cute & well generated ambigious girl
>delete
>spam 100+ pics of melting body horror bbc (not even 2hu)
>nothing wrong here
Make it make sense, Janny
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You missed cunny btw. Get to work reddit.
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Imagine it's the janny spamming them
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>catboxed traps are still up
>catboxed cunny is gone
Hmmm, I see...
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>put big tits and big penis in every image
>have never gotten a single image deleted
it really is just that easy
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>cunny still there but wannabe janny schizo is shitting
Hmm, pedo much?
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Why is /hdg/ so fucking disrespectful of the rules?
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>>8359822
>gens a girl with big tits and big penis
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I've never opened any catbox link for the past 12 months
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>>8359824
And to the moderators too! We should appreciate them more.
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>>8359822
Yeah, come on, let's just make the same kinds of image over and over again and it should be fine!
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>>8359826
Missed the only good gens in these threads desu
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>>8359825
box??
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>gen "1boy, huge penis, veiny penis, foreskin, twitching penis, flaccid, after sex, cumdrip, detailed penis, delicious penis, excessive pubic hair"
>get called gay
Huh?
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>>8359822
And your cum? Rulebreaking much?
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>>8359831
you forgot to prompt "no homo".
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>>8359830
Forbidden in this subreddit :(
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>>8359832
i always have some stored in my balls when i post
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>>8359827
I sometimes feel jealous. A hard but honest, rewarding work for awesome pay. Isn't this what we all want?
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>>8359837
Anon.. you haven't heard?
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>>8359837
And they get to stare at hot hentai girls all day, what a dream
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>>8359800
Can you cut off the right part of the image? No cum or cocks there.
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>>8359837
And think of all children they save by fighting with literal predators! So brave!
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>>8359800
Who's the character?
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>>8359842
Thank you mods for keeping all this AI-generated hentai CSAM out of my internet.
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>>8359833
>>8359831
>(1girl), solo focus
Easiest ungay'ing of my life.
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Any Advertisers in chat? We eatin good
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>1girl, splotch of cum, white background
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Am I able to post any variation of a skinny, small-dicked young man with my onee-sans without getting deleted, or do they all need to be muscular playboys or fat ojisans with huge dicks?
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>>8359850
I never had problems with those, as long as they aren't child sized there shouldn't be a problem. The issue for me is getting the model to gen those without going full shota.
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>>8359850
you should forget about posting anything here
this is not a place for gens
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>>8359756
fuck i wanted the box
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>>8359852
people went too far with the ironic outrage
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No big cock = not /h/ and likely a pedo scum.
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>>8359856
It's only partly ironic. The restrictiveness of this place is insane.
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>>8359850
Catbox please?
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>>8359859
>The restrictiveness of this place is insane.
never had any issues myself
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>>8359850
>fat ojisans with huge dicks
Ojisans bros.. is this cherryboy calling us out?
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F is for friends who do stuff together
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>>8359861
Of course if you are boring faggot who only ever prompts fat hags fucked by big black cocks you'll never have issue with this thread.
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>>8359868
>fat hags fucked by big black cocks
My peepee hard.
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>>8359868
Why are deviants so averse to changing boards?
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>>8359859
because people report post out of spite just because they are happy to see when it get deleted but they dont actually care about the content
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>>8359870
Because as much as they hate to admit it, this place still has the best images and the best prompters. So even if they aren't allowed to post here, they come here to beg for scraps.
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Because no one want to post their shit into the nothingness of dead generals retard.
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>>8359873
This, people should subscribe to my patreon if they want to see blacked gacha sluts that badly.
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>>8359873
>Not enough people are into my degenerate fetishes so I have to terrorize the normal population with them.
alright then
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>>8359850
It's very risky.
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Don't you get bored of doing this same thing every day?
>make a bunch of seethe shitposts about how bad it is
>never actually leave
>get all the shitposts deleted
>a bunch of images that you hate get spammed
>those dont get deleted
>get even more mad about how much you hate it here
>still never leave
I don't get it. It's been like this for months now.
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>>8359877
>normal population
>4channel
>coomer board
You tell him, sister.
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Even with all the shitposting this is the only general where all the famous bakers still come to visit us
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maybe weird question but, somebody know some stereotypical succubus characters with enough pics on danbooru?
i mean something like this https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4382043?q=succubus_%28disgaea%29+ just this character tag works poorly
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>>8359883
not anymore
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>>8359892
Did you forget about me?
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>>8359891
Etna, obviously. Just make the AI give her bigger tits and change her hairstyle.
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don't be surprised when this shit thread finally dies, faggots
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>>8359896
but etna isn't hot tho
kinda funny that i've seen this "pink hairsed succubus in black skimpy clothes" so many times, but can't find any established character
prompting for OC is always very inconsistent, that's why want to try with existing characters
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>>8359902
BLOODY BITCH MOTHER
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>>8359903
albedo? marin in cosplay? one of the deviluke sisters
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How do I stop a lora from melting? I already use low cfg and 600/800 steps lora, going any further down in steps would just make it harder to get good traits
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Kurumuz? More like Kuruwhose!
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>>8359902
I will be surprised sooo suprised, what you gonna do about it?
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>>8359909
kuruwhom?
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>>8359902
dunno, kinda liking this chill phase quite a bit.
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>>8359902
It would be for the best, unironically. Even a new local model didn't save this place, far from it. hdg is effectively dead.
We need a new place for at least somewhat competent aifags to congregate, the interest is there but hdg is just not working out for this.
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>>8359919
>competent aifags
they got a cord invite by now
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once naiv4 releases we will prosper once again, screencap this
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>>8359919
all the creative people went to the tree board
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>>8359922
Isn't tree like unironically dead at this point? Wonder how long his sites will stay up
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>>8359919
>competent aifags
Any of those already have their socials and just use places like this to advertise. Once you know you're good enough there's never a reason to discuss further on places like this. It's not like people come to /hdg/ to find out new technological advancements or methods to create better AI art. What would someone who is already competent at making AI art have to gain from posting in places like this or anywhere for that matter that isn't just to share their art and farm engagement?
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>>8359925
>there's never a reason
I don't like socials and fucking hate being forced to use this gay shit.
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>>8359879
it's been a problem since around december 2022
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>>8359925
> It's not like people come to /hdg/ to find out new technological advancements or methods to create better AI art.
I unironically do that. Cords and Reddit are full of drooling retards that know shit about DDPM and civit is… well, civit
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>>8359919
> a new local model
There’s a new local model?
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>>8359908
Could be a lot of things. What settings are you running?
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>>8359928
How do you sift out all the purposefully bad information? 90% of what I read here is just people shitposting about literal snake oil and then retards crying snake oil to everything that actually isn't snake oil
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>>8359932
>retards crying snake oil to everything that actually isn't snake oil
someone shitting on cfg++ hurt your feelings?
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>>8359907
thanks
to love-ru shit is the closest but still not there
sorted pics on gelbooru and it seems that every character with features i'm looking for is oc
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>>8359932
By having some basic knowledge and testing the shit out myself?
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>>8359937
So then what makes this place different than your original point of
>Cords and Reddit are full of drooling retards
Couldn't you filter those out there as well?
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>>8359793
Retard
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>>8359936
maybe checkout that girl from rosario vampire
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>>8359940
It's a bait.
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>>8359936
anneliese from kimagure temptation?
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>>8359945
yeah, that seems the closest to what i want
thanks
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>>8359925
is this a bait? i couldn't fucking care less about xwitter and garbage like this, why the fuck would you even post there if you aren't going for the money (meaning you are a third-world neet)
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>>8359942
>>8359953
Not everything you disagree with is a bait.
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>>8359953
Yes. 'Muh sekrit Cords' always is.
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>>8359638
>https://files.catbox.moe/qb8sav.png<

>>8359645
minimalist (?)
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>>8359931
https://files.catbox.moe/4xevdi.json
Got it from here, and had to tweaks some stuff to dial it down, since it was from an anon with a 4090
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>>8359925
there are very few places to discuss ai art, reddit is very anti ai art and twitter is an awful format for any discussion
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so what is the current best version of noob to use, and do I train a lora on base illustrious for it?
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>>8359743
nice nikkes boxo?
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>>8359963
>prodigy
Can't really help you with that
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>>8359908
>going any further down in steps would just make it harder to get good traits
try using a higher batch size it should make each training step individually more efficient
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>>8359981
oh nyooooooooooooooooooooo~
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>>8359981
Tutturuu!
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>>8359981
>no tasty veiny pulsating dicks and thick cum
BRO? this is heckin hdg
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>>8359981
zased yuri poster
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Female faggotry? Not on my watch!
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>>8359970
<https://files.catbox.moe/ft41ck.png>
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>>8359993
tiny heads
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>>8359981
kys
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>>8359996
Why would say that? :(
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>>8359981
AIIIEEEE femcel-sama, save me!
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>>8359971
Err, I thought Prodigy was the standard for SDXL lora, or at least that's what the guide in the OP was saying
>>8359979
Will try to next time
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>>8359995
>no feet
Do better.
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>>8359999
The op guide is outdated but IAschizo is too busy collecting highlights to update the op
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>>8359961
404...
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>>8359995
nice
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>>8360001
Ughh fine I'll try it

>>8360003
remove the last "<"
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>>8360004
>nice
it's nai
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>>8360008
Not /h/, NEXT
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>>8360005
Shit, I AM retarded. Thanks anon.
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>>8359999
i think it's pretty popular, it just largely uses its own set of hyperparemeters and you can't adjust the learning rate
afaik prodigy has a problem during diffusion training where it isn't able to correctly cap learning rates for certain networks. with SDXL this means that it can just increase the UNET LR forever until the end of training when it probably should have stopped 25% of the way through at the latest. if you use larger batch sizes (like 15+ maybe) this can prevent it. that might be the issue you're running into
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>>8360005
Can we talk about the orc problem? People often treat them as a different race, but they are actually a whole different species. Which could, technically, make porn that includes orcs belong to bestiality category. And let's not forget that bestiality is strictly forbidden here.
Thoughts?
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>>8360009
It's /h/ because of the implication
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>>8360014
Yeah, it's offtopic, plain and simple.
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>>8360008
this HAS to be nai
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>>8360017
What makes you think so?
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>>8360017
>fried lanczos look
no
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>>8360015
No implications allowed! Only straight honest to God sex between straight male and straight female!
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>>8360018
Because it's literally perfect? I mean look at the detail on it
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>>8360014
but orced is fantasy blacked, and the latter is very welcome here
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>>8360019
Everything's fried to you schizos.
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>>8360009
>textpost
Not /h/, NEXT
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>>8360019
>fried lanczos look
Now I'm curious. How does up-scaling fry things?
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>>8360021
>melted eyes
>watermark/signature
>random seagull pieces floating
.
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>>8360018
the table is too detailed
local could never
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>>8360029
>>melted eyes
Is a staple of NAI, what's your point? The other two can happen on any model. Not the fag that called it perfect btw, it's far from that.
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>>8360031
I didn't say it wasn't NAI, just pointing out how it wasn't "perfect"
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>>8360032
Let's see your perfect gen then, allen-san
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>>8360001
Stop having dogshit taste btw
>https://files.catbox.moe/afcchj.png<

>>8360014
Clowns, both of you
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>new ntrmix kino drops
Thanks for saving local, Mr.Plissken.
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>>8360034
>business card analogy
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>>8360027
i actually did have interpolation fry datasets at one point and i think that it was lanczos doing it. the first step of my dataset pre-processing involves downscaling images with transparent backgrounds and basically every image had noticeable haloing and i had to switch to using cv2's area interpolation.
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>>8360029
that's right, get it out of your system before v4 drops lmao
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>>8360039
Hmm interesting. I'll try that for my next lora. I never bothered resizing images so far and just hoped that whatever method kohya uses to fit images into buckets was enough.
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>>8360040
That's not a nai gen tho. Nobody here is currently subscribed
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>>8360040
I don't think v4 is going to save us from retards that refuse to inpaint the eyes because it's too much work.
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>>8360043
Can't expect people to put effort into their gens when they'll end up next to ayakon in the highlights
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>>8360042
>Nobody here is currently subscribed
Based general.
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>>8360043
>16ch flux vae
unless they spectacularly fail elsewhere, it will. fucked up faces is generally a vae issue
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>>8360047
from someone that fucked around with flux a bit, it makes a HUGE difference in prompt comprehension, but flux as a model is irredeemable dogshit
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>>8360048
they are only using flux vae, and it's pretty great. flux has plenty of issues, but it has much better details at lower res gens.
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>>8360049
what i wanna know is where's the local model with 16ch vae
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>>8360050
Maybe someone will get off their ass and bake one eventually if NAI v4 turns out good.
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>>8360052
true
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>>8360042
its nai
he still hasnt posted a box
the resolution is odd
the file has been renamed
the colors arent fucked up like local vpred
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>>8360050
first nai would have to skullfuck local again to show that 16ch vae is not a joke, maybe then someone would bother
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>>8360048
the vae doesn't effect prompt comprehension anon
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>>8360057
yeah i got it twisted
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>>8360050
>>8360056
you need a high param arch to use a 16ch vae, where do you retards expect local to get that or the compute to finetune it? noob team is the only one that's pulled any substantial amount of compute out of their asses and they've proven they're certified retards who can barely bake sdxl even with a manual on how to do so
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>>8360055
Nah, that other anon is right. Probably some lora with oversized inputs that got fucked by downscaling in training.
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>>8360059
happens to the best of us
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>>8360037
do you still need 2 quality line and does it still look like you have the nyalia lora baked into it
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>>8360061
>you need a high param arch to use a 16ch vae
your sd3, sir
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>>8360063
there was still an extra hand randomly on a leg that i had to edit out, and their back arms are mysteriously missing, yuri positions are a pain in the ass honestly, needs a lora for it
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>>8360061
surely we will get a new public arch soon
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did flux dedistillation fail
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>>8360066
SD3 is absolute garbage with three text encoders lmao, just a repeat of every mistake Sai has ever made. no serious effort will ever bother with it. I want better than SDXL and 4shit vae too but that's just not happening
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>>8360069
it's a meme and even if it wasn't a meme that doesn't fix that the training data of flux is full of trash
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>>8360069
yes, it is impossible to truly "dedistill" it, the entire concept is snake oil in terms of making it trainable
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>>8360065
Prefix AND suffix, chuddie. And the nyalia look just makes my gens more expressive, H.
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>>8360070
It's still a 2B model that effectively utilizes a 16ch vae.
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>>8360072
>the training data of flux is full of trash
I didn't follow the flux training arc, what did they do to fuck that up?
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>>8360050
SD 3.5 and FLUX are right there!
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>>8360072
>training data of flux is full of trash
sdxl training data was bottom tier though, much much much worse
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>>8360068
I hate to doomer post but we're much more likely to hit the end of the random project funding for public archs. the bubbles popping and investors want returns while wising up that there's no profitable expidenture of public image gen
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>>8360080
Elon Musk will save coomers.
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>>8360077
just prompt for 5 minutes and you'll see, almost every image has really strong DOF and to get it to not apply that you need to put detailed in front of literally every little thing in the background, it's a nightmare. and it has little to no anime
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>>8360080
uber took decades to be profitable, the concept of replacing so much of the entertainment industry is going to be too much of a lure for complete popping
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>>8360082
Oh yeah I remember how everything came out blurry as fuck for no reason when I tried it, I thought it was some mistake on my end instead of the training data being trash.
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>>8360080
lmao, there's like 5 of these reddit posts every week https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1hbhf07/new_model_one_diffusion/
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>>8360041
sd-scripts was using inter_area but switched to lanczos recently for some reason
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>>8360083
But uber started disrupting the transportation market immediately, all these models have disrupted so far is boomer and Indian posting on facebook.
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>>8360082
That's because of dpo, not the dataset. Loras or even reddit tier "finetunes" are usually enough to get rid of the dpo aesthetic
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>>8360089
You don't know how many globohomo artists already lost their job now that flux can quickly generate groups of diverse comic characters
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>>8360076
NTA but it was trained from scratch to be optimized to use it. Where is local getting this magical, nonshitty arch? We can't even finetune existing ones lol.
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>>8360092
In my experience flux can't generate shit which is why only xitter bluechecks are dumb enough to pay for the privilege of using it.
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>>8360094
We'll beg lllya on twitter
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>>8360085
that's not a new arch, it's an adaption of existing diffusion models
>>8360083
none of that "concept" requires the public to get free things, the money (if there is any) is in Saas. for your comparison to make literally any sense you'd have to say Uber gave out free rides for years then magically became profitable. that's not how it works
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>>8360090
if there has been a new one in the last couple months i'm all ears, but every finetune i've tried has had the same issues regardless
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>>8360100
actually uber basically did do exactly that, they gave away rides at prices massively losing money, like record making billions
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>>8360100
>Uber gave out free rides for years
It pretty much did.
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>>8360100
anon...youre business history knowledge...
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>>8360103
>>8360104
I can tell you have 0 understanding of or experience with how corporations and investors function if you think this is in any way comparable to companies making free, public archs kek
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>>8360107
look dumbass you can pretty much follow the same uber playbook.
Just like how uber gave away rides dirt cheap for like 10 years to kill the taxi industries, you give away voice cloning and special effect gen etc for years, then jack up the prices massively once all the voice actors and artcucks have quit
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>>8360105
we aren't in the silicon valley golden age, sweetheart, you aren't going to keep getting massively funded free architecture. the window is closing and fast, you're already seeing the last glimpse of failures being shit out and shit down
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>>8360107
If you actually knew how companies and corporations work you'd know that software companies make money with installation and technical support and a lot of architectures they develop are free or even open source.
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>>8360108
which would still be saas, you absolute retard
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>>8360109
there are always boom and bust cycles idiot, yeah the money tap is off atm but inflation and free debt will come back eventually
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>>8360110
KEK oh yes call me up when the image gen architecture money boom for installation and tech support picks up! very applicable!
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>>8360109
>nothing ever happens
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i saw a tweet about sora coming out the other day, how is that for hentai? any better than the other video ai tools?
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>>8360113
keep copiuming, anon
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so i guess genners got extinct now
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>>8360120
where will all those h100s magically go?
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>>8360121
I post mine on discord and civit desu
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>>8360115
So, your idea of the future of image gen is just the same exact business model as NAI, without a single change, but somehow big enough to disrupt the creative industry to the point it finally becomes profitable? You are honestly retarded.
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anyone got any favorite artists? even some 100-200 image artists work decent in illu https://files.catbox.moe/98c6ou.jpg
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Has anyone tried the new anytest controlnet models? I just can't get them to work in reForge.
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>>8360121
I'm trying to get something working and having issues with it, sorry. I'll post once I get an image I'm happy with.
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>>8360120
unless you think the entire concept of the western economic model is about to end, he is right. If you do, you should be collecting cans of food or something instead of img genning
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>>8360122
not towards making free, publicly available high quality architecture lmao
>>8360124
what a shitty strawman fallacy, I'm not even going to humor you
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I heard there was a new easy scripts version that can do flux?
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>>8360121
We just respect the rules :)
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>>8360130
news to me
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>>8360128
alright anon you keep waiting for your money boom where everyone invests millions of dollars into making new, free architectures just for (You) to use at no cost
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>>8360130
Machina's branch, there's links on noob cord if you search his name (I'm too lazy to look it up sorry)
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>>8360135
Tell that nigga to write some proper documentation
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>>8360126
>reForge
Unless you are still using vpred 0.65 and need all the snake oil there is no reason to use that broken mess over forge.
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>>8360134
price of h100 hours has been falling steadily and they'll become more and more accessible to even modest research funds as time goes on.
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>>8360100
Who would be competent enough to ask for money to make a new arch without sounding like a scammer
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https://files.catbox.moe/nzy1el.png
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>>8360140
she spilled some, needs correction
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>>8360136
I don't think he meant for it to be widespread public use desu (don't quote me on that)
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>>8360139
no shit, that's half of what I've been saying but these spergs are going on about business models and money booms in some fantasy land
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>>8360144
euge got 32*h100s in that fantasy land
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>>8360146
I'll fuck you up snitch
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>>8360145
call me when that happens twice, l-a-x had some kind of grant most likely thanks to his history with LLMs and probably grifted it for image gen while being expected to produce something else (thus why they lost more and more compute towards image model training as time went on)
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>>8360148
>call me when that happens twice
Moving the goalpost already?
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>>8360147
That only makes my penis harder
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>>8360148
they lost compute?
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>>8360150
You slut...
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>>8360149
hardly, we went over this at the start of the conversation chain but 2 digit IQs as yourself seem to struggle to follow those when they jump in mid way with some out of context kneejerk reaction
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>>8360155
cute
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>>8360151
euge:
>We currently have only 1/4 of the computing power we had before.
>I use one 8xH100 for main stream training. Two 8xA100 nodes for experiments and other training.
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>>8360155
why do all these gens have blushing dicks what are you guys doing that is causing this flaring red color
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>>8360160
Reddening of the genitalia is a completely normal and realistic thing during arousal due to increased blood flow to those areas.
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>>8360148
why is it so bitter
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>>8360161
personally i dont think its very aesthetic
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>>8360161
does your dick turn THAT red when you're hard? these images seem excessively red. I can't say I go out of my way to look at hard dicks but I've never seen any in porn or anything that looks like that. mine doesn't turn Rudolph nose red and I'm a pale mfer?
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>>8360165
Your dick isn't comparable to a railgun?
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>>8360125
i enjoy ro g \(oowack\), senbei \(avocadochaya\) mix recently, although it's quite junky
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>>8360165
Mine turns blue...
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>>8360174
you're right, I've failed as a man :(
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>>8360177
H-hot
>No homo
>>8360178
I knew he was retarded, but every new screenshot I'm shown it's even worse than I thought
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>>8360160
it's a thing that started popping up in noob eps 0.5, pending artist mix
I'll let you try to guess as to why
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>>8360178
>autistically tags the whole database with scores
>doesn't bother cropping pics properly
Incredible.
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after so much experimentation my workflow is fucked, what is the anon's recommended no snakeoil no nonsense workflow?
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>>8360190
I was about to do the exact same post
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>>8360189
I thought eps 0.5 was the last epoch free of e621 TE training...
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Okay I like perpendicular cyberfix, owari da... I don't tend to use shitmixes
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So for those who have experience with training loras on illus/noob, how many steps are usually needed before a style "locks" in? Back on pony I remember it being crazy high in terms of steps needed, like 1500-3000 steps, while I have observed here that it's more like 600-1000 with illus and noob. Is this true?
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>>8360189
>it's a thing that started popping up in noob eps 0.5
You mean illustrious 0.1.
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>>8360191
keep things simple
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>>8360191
What's in your workflow?
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>>8360195
no. e621 started after noob 0.1
.5 eps was the last release before they fried the TE.
>>8360198
illustrious didn't have blushing dicks as far as I can remember. It had some red balance issues, probably, but it didn't produce a literal irradiating blush halfway down the shaft.
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>>8360197
Depends on your settings
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>>8360191
I've given up. I've tried so many different things that returning to some homosexually plain Euler normal with CFG 6 garbage feels wrong. The experimental paths add enough detail and other things that you'll never be satisfied with that vanilla shit workflow again, but you can also never find a good enough experiment to be satisfied. For people like us, it's owari da
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>>8360197
it's the opposite for me. i've needed double the steps for illustrious and noob styles compared to pony
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>>8360201
>.5 eps was the last release before they fried the TE
I don't understand how this is different from what I said tho
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>>8360206
your training params have to be extremely out of whack if fried ass pony trained styles easier for you, unless you're training aco and realism or something
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>>8360209
saying that it takes longer is infinitely different from saying that it trains better, are you illiterate?
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>>8360208
oh I didn't notice the TE inserted there.
And, sure, yeah, .5 eps was the last before the TE training. But e621 was still being thrown against the unet and it can still have issues where you have to add "furry" to the negatives lest you want bara furcock(mostly where an uninserted cock is vaguely in focus and you're also prompting for kemomimi features for the girl).
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>>8360197
it depends
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>>8360204
owari da...
>>8360200
stealthdata on the ng, I don't know how much it reveals but its just a mess of back and fort of gacha infused snakeoils madness
>>8360199
find the beauty in the simple things
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What's the model of choice these days?
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>>8360216
NAI v3
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>>8360202
>depends on your settings
Here: https://files.catbox.moe/yfk2h8.toml
It's some settings I copied from others here. I have a rtx 4090 hence the high batch size. I have 170 images in total.

>>8360209
Would you mind sharing your training config? I could really use a reference to see how it looks compared to mine.
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>>8360176
>ro g \(oowack\)
super based, I need to try him out sometime, I love his works

>>8360191
>what is the anon's recommended no snakeoil no nonsense workflow?
>get a nice base gen (the composition is mostly fine)
>hires fix upscale with low denoise
>inpaint to fix defects and to add details
>???
>profit

>>8360216
noob vpred .75
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>>8360211
where did I say "better"
>are you illiterate?
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https://files.catbox.moe/7hrkt0.jpg
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>>8360220
>fried ass pony trained styles easier for you
here. do you even train loras?
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>>8360222
holy based
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>>8360222
What's the point of making the flat one the one with the dick? Might as well just prompt a boy.
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>>8360218
6 epochs seems very low for that dataset size and lr. but I don't know what came does internally.
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>>8360223
easier /=/ better, it perfectly refers to your claim of needing less steps on pony to train a style. I've trained hundreds of loras, it's how I know that if you're experiencing what you say you are, your params need tuning
>>8360218
not at my PC right now but I'll unironically post them when I'm off work if you check back in 6-7ish hours (maybe less if traffic isn't hot garbage)
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>>8360230
>6 epochs seems very low for that dataset size and lr.
Maybe you're right, however I started to notice frying in the sample images when I tried going up above +14 epochs. However maybe I'm just impatient and didn't let it bake further and stabilize.

>but I don't know what came does internally.
came (I think) is one of those self-adjusting LR schedulers like prodigy and adafactor.

>>8360231
> I'll unironically post them when I'm off work if you check back in 6-7ish hours
Much appreciated!
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>>8360230
without being able to see the toml (mobile fagging), if it's a dora with came then that low epoch amount is common
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>>8360231
most lora trainers i've talked to have similar experiences but sure, whatever you say. looking forward to checking out your "unironic" (?) lora settings
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https://files.catbox.moe/4xskh2.png

also may as well post these even though they're /e/
https://files.catbox.moe/oer7yp.png
https://files.catbox.moe/4o9vz7.png
https://files.catbox.moe/fg5p4s.png
https://files.catbox.moe/m56ht6.png
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In a fight between creatives and lora trainers, who would win?
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>>8360233
>if it's a dora with came then that low epoch amount is common
It is, yes. That would explain the frying when training for more epochs in my case.

But for style only, would lycoris only + more epochs be better, and changing the LR scheduler to the more commonly used ones like adamw and prodigy?
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>>8360236
They would join together and murder retarded zoomers like you.
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>>8360235
splotch of cum doko
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>>8360234
the settings aren't being referred to as unironic, are you ESL by chance? you seem to be having quite the struggle following this basic conversation. the most likely case I can imagine is that you had to fry the LR with pony to overwrite it's fried in style, leading to less steps required to hit the mark. meaning you likely lowered the LR more than you needed to in order to get the same results while training off of pony, making it take longer to converge. it's pretty simple logic, lora params are pure mathematical operations - there's no magic here
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>>8360241
>fry the LR with pony to overwrite it's fried in style
No learning rate high enough for that
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>>8360229
it's not a hard rule, it's about power dynamics
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>>8360236
those are both me
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>>8360237
depends on what you feel the problem you're having is. if you're finding it's not detailed enough, for example, do try an optimizer/appropriate settings other than CAME, which errs towards oversimplifying fine details in my experience (though this could be due to other params as well, hard for me to say without looking; you can try a higher dim/alpha as well). dora is still the best option for it imo, and if it's converging appropriately there is no reason you 'need' it to take more than 6 epoch
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Let me guess, you need more
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>>8360235
i like the one in the coat
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>>8360248
bait
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>>8360243
kek too true, good riddance to that shit
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>>8360247
do you have a dora training script you can share
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>>8360240
a lazy inpaint and like three minutes of cleaning later
https://files.catbox.moe/a860jg.png
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>>8360216
FUUCK catbox please?
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>>8360241
i'm not trying to have a conversation with you in the first place (as there is nothing i could possibly gain from it), i'm only making fun of how you type like a retard
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>>8360248
>turbo
wtf is that shit. gen example?
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>>8360254
Fair warning, it was controlnet from this
https://files.catbox.moe/nq3bay.png
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>>8360250
How is this bait

>>8360258
Already did, many of them in fact, just check the thread
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>>8360253
>1girl, splotch of cum, white background
the masterpiece was assembled
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Using controlnet is fundamentally dishonest.
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>>8360268
Go to ic and whine about tracing
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>>8360268
Based, if you're gonna need a reference pic why not just look for and fap to actual paypig content? Taking out the entire "find fap material" step in favor of just proompting exactly what you want is one of AI's selling points.
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>Hating on controlnet
I'm surrounded by retards.
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>>8360274
ok mr. promplet
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>>8360274
>using controlnet for basic bitch compositions
el meow
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sad to see easy training scripts users still scraping by with outdated slop snake oil like rex came instead of modern cutting edge snake oil like radamschedule free
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I've had enough with snake oil, where is the lamia milk?
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ootl, have there been any new upscale models worth trying

>>8360216
Noob vpred 0.75
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>>8360277
i still havent seen anything that beats adamw or adamw8bit
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>>8360271
if you draw your own ref pic its based
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>>8360216
I like vpred 0.75 (perpendicular-cyberfix, non-S)
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>>8360277
>He isn't annealing his glora with fcompassplus
ngmi
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>>8360280
based body horror spammer
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>>8360287
now prompt reverse upright straddle with her getting shaved
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>>8360278
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>>8360281
i actually like adamschedulefree more than adamw with cosine with restarts, afaik radamschedulefree is effectively the same thing but it automates warmup in addition to the automatic scheduler aspect
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>>8360285
easyscripts can't even do glora without modifying shit user end
also it makes them larger than they should be and seem to be a bit weird compared to from sd scripts proper/bmaltais.
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>yuri got deleted
>again
holy shit
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>>8360294
>duoyuanjun
buh based
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I'm watching, heh.
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>>8360302
yaoi sisters keep winning!
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>>8360294
#offtopic
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>>8360305
cuck
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>>8360308
meds
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whats the best sampler/scheduler for maximum detail?
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>>8360308
jannies don't know or understand what material actually belongs to /d/ as opposed to /h/
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>>8360302
in iorder for yuri to be /h/ appropriate you need to go into inpaint and just add a cock or some cum to a corner of the image
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>>8360312
inpaint
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>>8360311
Oh buddy... You don't want to speak in such tone with me, trust.
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>NoobAI trades ability to gen /aco/ stuff for much better prompt adherence
I know none of you here give a shit but I miss being able to gen a fairly accurate looking Ciri or Lara Croft.
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>outdated training scripts
>script that can't do vpred
>script in forbidden language
Just use civit trainer. It works.
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>>8360317
ur hot
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>>8360320
train a lora
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>>8360320
Pony still exists you know
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>>8360321
Can civitjeets even train vpred? Thought they were still stuck on eps with adafactor or prodigy
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>>8360324
Yeah, except Illustrious and NoobAI are so much better it's hard to go back. If I were a pinup kind of guy that would be no problem but I only gen sex scenes.
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did locals strongest warriors A and Madman quit tard wrangling Euge?
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just use detail daemon if you want that much details
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>>8360335
Thanks for cock
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just kill the thread already you literal faget
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Bru chill
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>>8360337
>>8360335
box?
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>>8360274
Anything but pure t2i is cheating.
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>>8360341
If you don't pass raw vectors to the model, you are cheating.
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>>8360342
Can't wait to see how that [0.546 0.954 0.101 0.2314 0.4043 0.649 0.3596 0.7964 0.2445 0.206 ] will look on my waifu
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what even ARE vectors anyway
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what is a model
what are weights
what are we
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what is love
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baby don't hurt me
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>>8360345
just a list of numbers
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>>8360330
Detail Demon tends to fry images a lot for me.
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>>8360341
I would argue controlnet is better because it allows more variation from the original pic. You can mask areas to be ignored, or keep the strength low enough to only affect the overall composition.

There was an addon to schedule noise for img2img differently per region. But I can't remember its name anymore, and never heard of anyone actually using it other than some comfy experiments.
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>>8360346
An AI model is a program that uses artificial intelligence to analyze data and produce predictions. These predictions are stored as weights, which are then used to extrapolate based on the data the model was trained on.
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>>8360354
I extrapolate boogers from my nose and eat them
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>>8360352
I see
I haven't used it much, so yet to run into this issue
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>>8360353
i2i is out too of course, it's not t2i
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I have a dataset that would massively benefit from manual tagging. Let's run eva large and call it a day
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>>8360370
ah yeah my bad
t almost looks like i at first glance, I read what I wanted to
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I'll add that using a UI of any kind is cheating.
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>>8360341
cheating at what?
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Using any technology at all is cheating tbqh, some blood and a nice rock is everything you need
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>>8360379
you wouldn't get it
you're not like us
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>>8360383
yeah and I am glad for it
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>>8360382
>"real" artists when their carefully learned shading doesn't work out so well with berry mash on a cavewall
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>>8360382
>implying the rock isn't technology
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>>8360382
>anon doesn't make his own processors
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>>8360382
>he uses a rock
Fucking cheater.
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>Controlnigger meltie
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Be honest, asking seriously. What certain vpred 0.75 are you using right now? Normal? 0.75s? Cyberfix? Any other shitmix I'm not aware of?
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>The apple that is currently rotating in my mind has pixelspace detail
No, I won't show you
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>>8360392
0.75 (perpendicular-cyberfix)

If I wasn't using a merge, maybe 0.75 would be my one to go mostly, or eps 1.1.
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>>8360392
Pony Diffusion V6 XL
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>>8360392
I'm using noobaicyberfixVpred_vpred075PerpCyberfix
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>finally got triggered enough to go off
what level of autism do you even need to be on to do this shit manually for hundreds of images per thread
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>>8360416
>implying it's not a spambot posting wildcard gens
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>>8360379
ai art ranked mode
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>>8360438
it's already been loosely confirmed that it's someone actually doing it manually.
I don't want to believe it either but they'll (maybe sometimes) respond to a catbox request and has also manually deleted "accidental futa" to prevent one of their proxies(of which they have at least four of) getting banned.
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>>8360248
Which UI do you use?
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>>8360448
just the fact the they respond sometimes doesn't mean they don't use a spambot
also they 100% use captcha solver
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>>8360440
Hey that's my peepee
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come and get your slop bestiality lovers
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>>8360451
reforge (dev branch)
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>>8360457
box me up please
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>>8360461
Beg.
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>>8360457
I can't tell if it's actually Nyamota or just his style leaking through all the blacked-adjacent tags.
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>>8360461
eeerrr
uhhmmm
nyo.
:3
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Imagine a cute girl with feminine cock begging you for a catbox...
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>>8360465
>feminine cock
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>>8360467
Cope.
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>>8360465
How would a girl (human with two X chromosomes) have a penis (primary sexual characteristic of humans with XY chromosomes)
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>>8360470
Anime magic.
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>>8360468
>please affirm my transgender fetish
nyo
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>>8359860
https://files.catbox.moe/hxtxju.png
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>>8360470
does full package futa counts? though, idk if that can happen irl, i guess not
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>>8360473
see >>8360468
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>>8360463
nah it's nyamota, you're overestimating since he's a sub 500 danbooru works artist
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>>8360474
nta but box of that lusamine please?
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>/h/ is... when a girl has armpits
No, stop it with the offtopic posting.
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>he's unironically seething
Kek
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>>8360481
>>8360480
>>8360479
who are you quoting?
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Quick someone post a dickgirl to make him spiral.
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>>8360483
Uhh no?
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sir... the windows stopped sliding
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maybe i should start posting my prepubescent loli gens, that should teach'em
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>>8360287
>>8360365
boxes please?
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>>8359629
i nonetheless preferred ays_30 until this version
mostly because it seems more prone to noisy output with dpm++
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>>8360492
wtf is a eugeoter in the first place?
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>>8360478
https://files.catbox.moe/u330ps.png

>8360480
To me perverted poses and armpit hair fetishism seem passed the point of /e/, or at least one of those areas of crossover, but I can post those there if I'm wrong.
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>>8360496
catbox?
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>>8360496
>To me perverted poses and armpit hair fetishism seem passed the point of /e/
You're correct.
Body hair goes to /d/. They specifically have threads for it.
You will not find said threads on /h/.
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>>8360496
body hair is >>>/an/
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>>8360496
body hair is fine, dont let people shitpost you into posting on another board
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>>8360499
how often do you contemplate suicide?
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>>8360502
go ahead and search the catalog on /h/ and on /d/ for "hair"
report back with your findings
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Where do the /stinky/ /farts/ go??
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>Don't split the thread
>Don't use other ai threads
>Let it all congregate and fester here
What's with this comical hatred for /hdg/
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>>8360505
Not sure which way you're arguing bro!
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I'm going to post girls with body hair, and you're absolutely powerless to stop me.
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>>8360508
And her cock?
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>>8360512
The hairiest part.
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>>8360508
make sure you give them handlebar mustaches, too
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>>8360513
I'm almost cooming gen it faster!
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You will never convince me that those "wannabe jannies" aren't anti-ai shitposters. There's literally no other possible motivation to this behavior that inevitably just leads to text shitposting and eventual thread death.
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>>8360520
I'd argue that not wanting to see /d/ shit when you're not in /d/ is a pretty good fucking reason to tell people to fuck off.
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Live and let live! Let's accept all posters regardless of skin color, origin and fetish. Indian loliposters, south-american blacked posters, western hag poster, we can all get along!
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>>8360520
Yeah... It would somewhat understandable if other more niche generals weren't dead or barely kicking (or filled with some extreme gross shit), but it's not the case. Also wild to me that a coomer in /h/ would rage at something as tame as the "offtopic" gens posted here (which btw take like 5% of the the thread, you can always just ignore it).
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>>8360523
>Indian loliposters
Aren't indians into hags mostly?
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>>8360525
they are, but the anti-ai discord chose this narrative hoping for the most butthurt
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>>8360523
I assure you, the largest consumers of loli outside of japan is the US.
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>>8360497
https://files.catbox.moe/exaujt.png
>>8360499
The only thread I see is excessive hair. Like excessive leg and arm hair all over the body. I think that's a few steps further than some mild body hair on an adult woman.
>>8360505
The rule is that it has to be sex and cum etc as an example, but you need only look at the numerous other threads on this board to see that's not a strict black and white rule. People post plenty of "non-sex" images, but it's accepted because they are either meant to be perverse or relate to an existing /h/ topic. That's why it confuses me on what is enforced in this thread specifically.
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>>8360532
>what is enforced in this thread specifically.
It has to be moe
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>>8360532
don't respond to the anti-ai discord shitposters
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Why isn't label smoothing a thing for loras?
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>>8360532
why gloss over the fact that you don't see body hair threads at all on /h/?
Seems like an important detail of where something does or does not belong, to me.
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>>8360520
It's pretty obvious. And then there's CF to muddy the waters further with his schizophrenia.
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why body hair enjoyers always choose filthiest artstyles?
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>>8360541
bad taste
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anyone know artists that draw good pussies? specifically NOT cleft of venus. I want to see labia majora, minora, clitoral hood, etc.
I find even with proper tags and inpainting at high resolution I can't get good pussies with artists who primarily draw cleft.
I want to put them in my mix and see if I can get better pus.
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>>8360541
good taste
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>>8360544
laserflip
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>>8360544
>I want to see labia majora, minora, clitoral hood, etc.
That's disgusting. Just my opinion.
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>da style is bad cuz me sayz so grrr
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>>8360540
>And then there's CF to muddy the waters further with his schizophrenia.
That's what I was thinking when posting, kek, but I'm not sure how he shitposts here apart from his usual NAI schtick.
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>>8360520
but the biggest shitposters are the eternal nogens crying 24/7 about how /d/ is persecuted here?
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>>8360546
looks like he mostly draws arbys which I doubt the AI can handle but I'm interested to try actually. unfortunately he draws a lot of gross concepts so it might be poison. gunna investigate.

>>8360547
I mean to each their own but finding a woman's genitals disgusting seems really gay to me. personally.
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cock > vajayjay
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>https://civitai.com/models/1028575?modelVersionId=1153618
>Particle-Accelerated Pencil Mix
what?
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>>8360544
Put uncensored in positives.
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behold our savior bros
https://files.catbox.moe/falevg.png
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>>8360552
>I mean to each their own but finding a woman's genitals disgusting seems really gay to me. personally.
You're in a thread that cries when there are too many vagoos and not enough ponos in an image.
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>>8360556
lel
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>>8360558
>better eyes than the nai v4 tests shown the other day
uhhh bros?
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>>8360558
kek
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>>8360558
why does it have the same melted eyes you'd see from v6
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>>8360561
we got too cocky naibros(Nai leak edition)
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>>8360558
Doa 4ch vae trash. Unironically more excited for an update from the animagine troons
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>>8360563
the power of sdxl vae
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>>8360558
Perfect eyes, solid anime style, what's not to like?!
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>>8360558
he is not using adetailer so I consider that perfect
ponygod we win again
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every diffusion model often forgets that males still have legs during sex. is there a lora for illu or noob that already addresses this specifically?
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>>8360572
Why you want to see male legs so much, are you gay?
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>>8360574
i self insert as the legs
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>>8360574
>self inserting as a cripple
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>>8360539
Because I accepted it as generally true, my point being that /d/ topic is much more extreme and way past the point of what I'm posting. All I'm really saying is there's a visible gray area between the defined content of the boards that will easily manifest in a thread like this.
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>>8360544
I did a speedrun through pussy_focus and these are some artists who stood out as being potentially useful. jic anyone wants the results of my research.
z282g
paloma piquet
merrytail
sorapoi
niliu chahui
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>>8360544
what's your scheduler
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>>8360558
>4ch vae
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>>8360552
i think the style is pretty offputting especially the butthole, i don't need that realistic thank you very much
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>>8360572
no but there should be one
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>>8360580
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>>8360586
Well what are you waiting for? Get to baking.
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>>8360588
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>>8360580
>>8360587
based
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Sex machine? People making loras for me now, eh?
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hmm
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wait i thought everyone here had their legs chopped off or something
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>>8360589
Where did I got wrong that I have to work instead of creating sex machine datasets on a Wednesday morning?
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>>8360593
*sheathes katana*
nothing personnel kid
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>>8360595
i was sick
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>>8360587
Appreciate you anon. can you share whatever prompt was related to pussy? was it just spread pussy or did you do more?
3 of those artists look pretty mixable to me.
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>>8360595
holy americentrism
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laserflip is a 50/50 between being fine and drawing the most disgusting ham sandwich pussies i've ever seen
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>>8360604
Obsessed.
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>>8360605
stop flipping it then
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>>8360601
idk i just threw in anything i could think of
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>>8360505
>split
>>>/g/103478273
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>>8360580
>>8360587
merrytail seems to have best clitty relative to weight and style influence among those artists

shuten douji \(fate\), standing, from below, spreading own pussy, grin, (pussy juice:0.65), clitoris, (oil painting \(medium\):0.5), (imai takahiro:0.75), (mignon:0.5), (colorful:0.35),
[ : (kaoming:0.75), (quasarcake:0.75), (fkey:0.75), :0.75]
[ : (merrytail:0.5), :0.1]
masterpiece, best quality, absurdres, very awa
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>>8360615
why is their thread so gay despite having vastly fewer femboys and juice blushing dicks than ours?
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>>8360248
Fuck whatever retard "designs" the GUI. NAI is superior for handling it slightly cleaner, like you can just choose a default resolution for the aspect ratio you want.
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>>8360620
Both of them are infinitely inferior to the flexibility of ComfyUI.
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>>8360620
swarmui has the least retarded gui imo
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>>8360620
Bro?
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>>8360541
Probably easier to gen with artists that already draw that sort of thing
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>>8360616
but i think i like sorapoi's pussy the most in the mix
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>>8360457
Would've been not bad if the tattoo wasn't there and some work was put into the arms crossed.

>>8360463
Why is Nyamota unpopular? Is it because he very often changes into a new style? I rarely see anyone using his styles.

Also, nobody uploads Neptunia to Exhentai. Why is Neptunia hated now?
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>>8360625
Why is his anus so cute?!
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>>8360587
laserflip seems like it would be good to drop from the prompt half way through to get anatomy without the grime it has going on
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>>8360541
filthy is part of the fetish, anon. Imagine being so vanilla you can't think of this on your own...
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>>8360629
He's saving it for someone special. Also, fiber rich diet.
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>>8360539
>you don't see body hair threads at all on /h/?
the ntr threads take all the slots
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>>8360539
I post pubes all the time and have not been banned for it yet. This is stronger proof that it belongs here. Either this or the jannies are pleased.
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>>8360293
box?
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>>8360544
Aki99
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>>8360623
where do you get this extension?
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>>8360645
https://github.com/xhoxye/sd-webui-ar_xhox
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>>8360647
thanks
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Adetailer makes my faces kinda desaturated and bright, what are your settings/models for it anons?
https://files.catbox.moe/pnt82u.png
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>>8360650
Increase padding, check you CFG extensions.
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If I have to look at gross vagina closeups, it's only fair you look at my cute cats (if you have the extension, otherwise you have to click the link.)

https://litter.catbox.moe/p5zuiu.jpg
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>>8360653
Slucy.
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>>8360628
neps havent had a even passable game in years
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>>8360655
>Two images to select
>Select the one with the shittiest.

I apologize.
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>>8360657
yuribro... don't make us look bad
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>>8360657
ngl i kinda hate the style
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>>8360659
Pija's artstyle always makes me feel like I can physically smell the image and it doesn't smell good
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>>8360661
i think filthy feel is the purpose of pija and hero neisan's styles
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>>8360661
pija is nothing before neisans scatman coloring
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>>8360662
>>8360670
I still think mamimi is worse than both of them if you're aiming for a filthy feel.
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>>8360628
He switched to Arknights, nobody cares about Neps anymore.

As for why the style is not used more, AI is pretty bad at learning his faces. It was crazy strong back on pony, and pretty bad on base illust too so I actually haven't tried it since. Looks very diluted in that image.
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>>8360673
imo mamimi's style itself is somewhat neutral. the content of his pics is the filthiest, yes, but style-wise neisan is the worst (best?) in that regard.
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>>8360678
noob learned nyamota's black dicks extremely hard that's for sure
i wasn't able to get rid of black males without removing nyamota from the prompt or reducing tag strength to very low levels
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>>8360631
i know this, but there is odd dissonance
basically, body hair is normal for adult females, so normal males should be attracted to it after all
but most of the times when shit involves them it's some sort of deranged and ugly garbage
like you know, grotesque proportions, smell/ dirt, rotten yellow/ brown colors, some disformed porcupine faces, fat, ntr, gangbangs, prostitution, etc.
so this is how healthy sexual drive should be?
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>>8360661
powerful imagery
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>>8360681
2d chicks not having body hair is an upgrade over 3d you dense motherfucker
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>>8360683
how the fuck this relate to my point?
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>>8360681
The goal of cartoon art is to abstract and simplify reality. Adding such excessive details as body hair (literal micrometer-resolution features) goes against this.
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>>8360681
>healthy sexual drive should
Where do you think we are?
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Cum is healthy, so
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>>8360684
sorry your post was incoherent (i.e. ESLcoded) i misread it

sorry
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>>8360686
it applies to normie porn too
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>>8360416
>finally got triggered enough
what was it this time? is it really the thread just existing at this point?
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>Final epoch has the fucking cave background baked in
Owari da
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>>8360697
yosh yosh
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>>8360681
>basically, body hair is normal for adult females
true
>so normal males should be attracted to it after all
this is a wild leap. it's also normal for adult females to poop. does not mean it's normal to be attracted to it.
hair isn't associated with fertility beyond pubic hair.
then modern standards prefer females without armpit hair making armpit hair in particular a niche fetish
fetishists go buckwild.
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>>8360697
You've been caved
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>>8360697
use loss masks like a normal person
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>>8360698
>>8360701
>>8360702
Or maybe I was retarded and the prompt I copied from the lora settings had the word cave in it.
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>>8360681
Women have been shaving since pre-historic times.
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>>8360704
conjoined dicks?
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I've been away for a while. Have I messed up my noobxl setup? I feel like it should be better than this.

{
"sui_image_params": {
"prompt": "1girl, lana's mother \\(pokemon\\), artist:sugimori ken, beach background, sand, ocean, full body, walking, waving, looking at viewer, holding basket,\n(dripping wet skin:1.1), wet hair,\nnipples, pubic hair,\n(shell necklace:1.1), anklet, fundoshi, mizu happi, wet clothes, see-through clothes",
"negativeprompt": "lowres,bad anatomy,blurry,(worst quality:1.8),low quality,hands bad,(normal quality:1.3),bad hands,mutated hands and fingers,extra legs,extra arms,duplicate,cropped,jpeg,artifacts,long body,multiple breasts,mutated,disfigured,bad proportions,bad feet,ugly,text font ui,missing limb,monochrome,face bad,",
"model": "NoobaiXL/noobaiXLNAIXL_epsilonPred11Version",
"seed": 1428364332,
"steps": 28,
"cfgscale": 4.0,
"aspectratio": "Custom",
"width": 1024,
"height": 1536,
"sampler": "euler",
"vae": "sdxl_vae",
"swarm_version": "0.9.4.0"
},
"sui_extra_data": {
"date": "2024-12-11",
"generation_time": "0.00 (prep) and 6.08 (gen) seconds"
}
}
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>>8360711
nope thats as good as it takes
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>>8360711
>1.8 negative
>no negpip
lol
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>>8360662
They're both really cool bases for style mixing. I think the filth feel comes more from knowing what it's usually used to depict.

>>8360681
Shikuta Maru is maybe closest to a compromise, drawing realistic body hair and not making it completely disgusting.
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>>8360713
I just copied the one from the guide. What's the meta around negatives nowadays? I've always felt like they caused some level of fuckery.

https://civitai.com/articles/8962/noobai-xl-quick-guide
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>>8360718
just read some catboxes in the thread anon
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>>8360699
>this is a wild leap
that's just common viewpoint i see online, not something i believe in
and btw i wouldn't necessarily relate attractive features to fertility, aesthetic values exist apart of that
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>>8359160
There's a script to train HunyuanVideo LoRAs now.
>The example config file will train a HunyuanVideo LoRA, on images only, in well under 24GB of VRAM. You can probably bump the resolution to 1024x1024 or higher.
>Video uses A LOT more memory. I was able to train a rank 32 LoRA on 512x512x33 sized videos in just under 23GB VRAM usage.
>>>/g/103486371
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe
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well whatever i guess the skirt can just be red or blue
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blame this man for not getting a proper vpred model
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>>8360735
madman or a?
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>>8360732
cute
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>>8360713
>negpip
snekoil
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>>8360743
its not
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>>8360743
It's legit but I'm pretty sure it's broken for noob somehow
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>>8360740
I personally blame b-chama. She has a nice butt but still wasn't able to manipulate those nerds into making a proper bake...
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>>8360750
It doesn't implement anything model-specific. More likely noob itself is broken.
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>>8360523
>color
I accept the posters themselves, but it's sad to see so much spam that's almost salvageable apart from the jarringly miscolored penises.
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>>8360753
Either or. Looking at the git it seems like SDXL in general has issues and pony is somehow the exception, I'm not sure how that happens.
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>>8360647
I'm retarded. Do you have to manually define them to show up? It's blank on my end, even after putting some custom ones in the text file. I'm on latest forge version.
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>decide to call it on kanan lora
>start generating preview images
>uwabaki token just produces normal mary jane style shoes
>realize i forgot to update the token in like half of my dataset
make it stop
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nta but how did you add this amount of details at this range? adetailer+hires fix I guess?
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>Never inpaint
>Inpainting skills degrade
hmmmm
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>>8360782
meant for >>8359539
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>>8360783
picrel seems ok to me though
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>>8360736
hot, but some motion indication will be even better
and more pain on her face
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Hello anonies
I managed to make a my first proper style lora of D-art's style after several attempts.
(pic related)
Here is a link to the mega to download said LoRA/DoRA. It's for noob vpred 0.6 and up. Would love some feedback:
https://mega.nz/folder/2UEnzTbC#ugFVd3cquLjS-y9Gfbr6rQ
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I would love to make a mob faced girl lora, but there are too many mob face types to even get a consistent one.
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>>8360789
Nivocado Avocado's ass/10
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>>8360789
>Would love some feedback
I don't think you want my feedback but I'm glad you are happy with what you enjoy, anon.
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>>8360789
Thanks I hate it

On a more serious note, the top and bottom halves of the image look like completely different styles.
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>>8360786
dicks should be green
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>>8360735
god i'm sorry i just can't endure this creature with a brain hemorrhagic stroke anymore
i'm stepping down
enjoy your 10 times fried vpred bake
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>>8360678
He lost subscribers because of Arknights and his latest Neptunia posts have more likes than his Arknights posts.

"nobody cares about neps anymore", lol.
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Back in the show people couldn't stop talking about her huge tits. But most of her booru images are only tagged as large, and when genning I have to use "medium" to get the size right. Wonder if there's some kind of drift going on towards bigger sizes.
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>>8360766
>Do you have to manually define them to show up?
Not really, I only install it and did nothing else
>I'm on latest forge version.
I'm using reforge, I believe forge has this feature as built-in so it prob has some conflicts with it

>>8360782
>>8360784
upscale the whole thing first and then inpaint the details, do it on small regions (only the important ones) one at the time
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>>8360798
a-kun ganbatte
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>>8360798
Please write down detailed "how to vpred" instructions before you an hero. Maybe we'll get another chance once sub 2k h100s start popping up on ebay in 10 years.
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>>8360799
If true, that's very surprising. They haven't made a good game since what, V2? A decade ago. Might be his old fans coming back?
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>>8360800
It happens as well with other characters. Anything beyond a C cup is considered "large" by people tagging characters.
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>>8360792
I had a chucklerino at this one.
>>8360793
>>8360794
It had to be done. Sorry anons.

>On a more serious note, the top and bottom halves of the image look like completely different styles.
Yeah some characters I have noticed seem to fight against the initial style of the lora with whatever style may be baked into said character, even though the lora has plenty of close-ups of faces. I didn't bother inpainting faces though in the preview images, but I imagine you could get pretty close to the original style by doing so.

Also is this image less horrid to look at?
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>>8360806
fernbox?
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>>8360730
That's pretty clean anon, would you catbox it please? I'll post my results
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>>8360807
El huevo...
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https://litter.catbox.moe/bvfpe0.png
F
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>>8360808
https://files.catbox.moe/qd8fcj.png
And ofc you need the lora posted I posted earlier here:
>>8360789
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>>8360708
HOLY BOXU?
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>>8360814
very based post with very cute megumin with very long forearm
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>>8360804
No, it's not surprising. He's known for his Neptunia porn. It's what people subscribed to him for. His first Arknights posts barely got any likes. Whenever he makes Neptunia porn, they get more likes than his Arknights porn. This is despite Arknights being his main focus for the past years.

Why would it matter when Neptunia had a well received game? If Nyamota was going after something popular, he would've done Fate, Granblue, Blue Archive, etc.
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>>8360814
Isn't this pedophilia?
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>>8359763
>>8359766
>>8359769
Gym senpai's have it difficult with all those temptress JK's out there.
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>>8360817
People still care about Granblue?
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>>8360806
I imagine those random black spots will get annoying. Got some untagged moles in the dataset? Or does it not understand because they're in unusual places?
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>>8360821
Maybe a few images are missing proper mole tags, but most of them should have been tagged. In my experience they don't really appear that often unless prompted for. You can put "body freckles, mole on body" in negs if it bothers you. Besides, most of d-art's art include moles on his characters, so It could be considered part of the style.
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>>8360803
there's no reason to use ddpm or edm vpred when flow matching exists, lax is just so afraid someone wouldn't be able to use his model he didn't even consider it
and sdxl is by no means a good model to train anyway
>how to vpred
you literally just have to bake and not make any fucking stupid decisions like letting failed shitbake evaporate your available gpu time or doing 13 (!) 1M image test bakes on a shitbake where the only meaningful difference between them is the learning rate+scale type and mistakes such as lack of condition dropout
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>>8360811
kek why's there an ass on her...rear abdomen?
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>>8360819
she's so fucking flat, god that's hot
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>>8360819
disgusting
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>>8359620
catmombox?
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>>8360812
d-art lora? the one on civit is trash
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>>8360826
Lazy prompt. Don't know if there are any good e621 tags for spider girls
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>>8360833
I agree, hence I made this one (also because there weren't any D-art loras for noob vpred yet).
But let me tell you D-art is not making it easy training on their stuff. For instance:
Most of their art is super high res, so to capture more detail, I had to raise training resolution.
Many of his images also contain a FUCKTON of adversial noise so had to remove it with upscalers.
Their style also has changed a lot through the years, and sometimes the images contains weird texturing choices (hatching, halftone, ben-day dots, etc). and sometimes they don't.

But please let me know what you think.
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shit, added too much sovl
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>>8360836
based chadmix god
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>>8360820
Yeah. Recently released a game.
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>>8360836
It always pisses me off how AI forgets it was supposed to draw the rest of the damn tiles/boards in walls and floors.
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>>8360835
Why do you press enter after each word? Are you a retarded newfag?
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>>8360835
I think it's pretty good. Got training settings I can copy?
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People who post content explicitly forbidden by the rules (which are also conveniently posted in the sticky, so retards have no excuse) should be taken out back and put down like an animal, I think.
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>>8360820
I like yuel, that is granblue right? the fox
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>>8360835
>loras for noob vpred
You are supposed to train on base Illustrious because that's the model every other shitmix (including Noob) is based on.
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>>8360852
There are several foxes, but Yuel is one of them, yes.

Societte is cuter though.
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>>8360853
Why not train on base sdxl?
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>>8360854
"cute" and waifu-y doesn't fit fox girls, there should be biting risk
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>>8360853
NTA, but should this always be the case? I have seen that some of my loras turn utterly unpredictable on derivative checkpoints. What is the cause? Should I train a lora for those mixes?
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>>8360825
Let me make sure I got this straight: you're having a meltie that they don't want to try your latest flavor of snake oil addition after your last several suggestions didn't work, including going so far as to blame deepspeed (something even the retard b-chan understood couldn't be the culprit). Is that right?
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if a-kun leaves the project madman will convince them to change it to 1.5, to be closer to his hero Dr. Head, and as an added bonus inject more furry datasets. please look forward to it.
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>>8360856
Ah, then there are none except for Nier who is a mass murdering psychopath needy yandere with sad, small tits.
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>>8360853
>You are supposed to train on base Illustrious
Nah train on whatever model you like best for the best results for yourself and if other people want to use different shitmixes that don't work nicely with it then fuckem
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>>8360798
>>8360735
Curious... Why were the timestamps removed from these screenshots? Hmm
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>>8360861
I liked the taurez guy, but it seems he left the sinking ship already
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>>8360853
between illustrious and the latest noob epoch are like 20k h100 hours lol
might as well recommend people to train on base sdxl
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>>8360855
Dunno. Probably because base SDXL won't know what to do with your tag-based captions. Many Pony Loras still work with Illustrious and I assume it's because their text encoders "understand" each other.
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>>8360866
we really didn't have much of a cast this season, directors cheaped out
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>>8360798
What discord is this, where can I watch the drama in real time? Not enough screenshots are being posted lately so it's been really hard for me to jerk off
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a-kun...
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>>8360867
Well my Chinknai 0.1 Lora works perfectly with every noob/eps/vpred/perp/cyber/s shitmix and version so far.
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>>8360870
No budget left after hiring b---chama and keeping jordach on standby for the entire thing.
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>>8360825
Confirmed L-A-X solely ruined noob with his gate keeping?
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>>8360874
That's the power of nyalia
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>>8360874
i'm sure you would "think" the same if you trained it on pony
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They could redeem themselves by baking B-chama nudes into vpred 1.0, it's not too late
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Notice how every "saviour" of local eventually becomes the reason of "it's over"?
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>>8360880
is there any pic of those nodes tho?
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>>8360883
die newfag
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>>8360880
what do you think the cosplay photos were anon...
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>>8360884
yes
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>>8360886
it all makes sense now...
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>>8360878
And what do you "think" is the better approach?
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>>8360888
You know she's almost 40 right?
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>>8360891
out of 10!
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>>8360888
hagbox?
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>spend more time browsing booru for interesting artists to use than actually genning
>when actually genning the mixes I put together don't turn out that great
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>>8360860
no, they are just continuing baking the same fucking shit and completely ignoring my pleas for 6 days straight and 4 restarts, instead of starting fresh from eps (for a test, 2M images or so), madman keeps insisting on baking the shit we've already got, which in this week has seen about 12.6M images and it is STILL producing oversaturated slop
>>8360861
>madman will convince them to change it to 1.5, to be closer to his hero Dr. Head, and as an added bonus inject more furry datasets
more like he would convince them to train sana because it was cooked inside nvidia(tm), the same company a great hero T. Karras works in but i wouldn't be surprised if that would be the case
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anyone got an easyscripts config for flux?
https://github.com/67372a/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts
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>>8360891
She has at least a few more breeding years in her
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>>8360750
if your extension is bokred delete and reinstall
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>>8360800
i want you to think hard about how fucking old witchblade is
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>>8360818
megumin is legal, read the books
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hm
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>>8360896
we knew it was owari da when they fried EPS TE, best we can hope for is someone shells out to convert EPS 0.5 to vpred after this shit show finishes disappointing us all
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If only b-chama had stopped them
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>>8360912
nta but nah, I've been complaining about the vpred bakes issues in private cords and even the people there (who are usually open to these kinds of criticism) are jumping to the slops defense saying .75 is perfect as it is. these 'people' would be happy even if chars eyes were melting down their faces, they notice nothing, no one will support a rebake. buckle in and make due, this is as good as we get
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>>8360896
i know you retards don't have an incredible amount of choice when it comes to autistic saviors, but you might want to know a bit more about your hero before you cry for him
he:
1. does not know how loss works
2. tried to make an LLM implement a simple linear & conv layer for him and failed
3. ripped code to do the above after it was put together for him and broke it
4. does not know how timesteps work in diffusion
5. does not know how samplers work
6. does not understand noise schedules
7. has never trained a functional model in his life

his best estimate for why his ideas will work is a magical ghost in the machine that is making it impossible for it to learn (ask him for an explanation, he can't give you one)

he's also too much of a fucking pussy to talk about this anywhere anyone can respond because retards can't talk about AI if they have to stop and google whatever they're talking about every few minutes

the eps model is perfectly functional, the vpred model works fine with rescale, if you want a model as stable as novelAI's without rescale (which was created in the same paper that zero terminal snr comes from btw!!!), then be prepared to wait for it to fucking train instead of praying for your retard savant (who has been around since day 1 and is essentially responsible for the vpred model ever ending up in this condition) to save you
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>>8360918
Which retard are we talking about I genuinely am not sure and don't trust either of them...
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>>8360918
i didn't know you posted here, madman
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>>8360918
>be prepared to wait for it to fucking train
I wonder what your cope will be once 1.0 is even more broken.
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>>8360921
obviously the only one who feels the need to constantly come here and cry about how his magic eps train will definitely fix everything guis (even though the eps model will develop the exact same fucking issue because the model has to actually FUCKING LEARN low-snr timesteps if it was never able to before)
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>>8360850
See here:
>>8360218
It's the toml file I originally used, but I did change a few settings for my current bake:
>lr unet from 7e-05 to 5e-04 or 1e-04 - I think CAME adjusts lr automatically though as it goes),
>increased resolution from 1024 to 1280,
>batch size 10
>unet and te learning enabled
>te lr set to 1e-06
>20-30 epochs give and take, depends on your dataset size.

>>8360853
Maybe in the future. Last time I trained a lora on illus and tried using it with the newer noob checkpoints it didn't go so well. Though on earlier ones before noob eps 0.75 it worked great.

Also my style lora works pretty good with my centrifuge/g-force concept lora :))):
https://files.catbox.moe/shhmsd.png
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>>8360918
Vpred sissies COMPLETELY, ABSOLUTELY and UTTERLY BLOWN THE FUCK OUT into oblivion.
They will never recover from this
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>>8360926
Fight fight fight fight
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Is B-chama on team A-kun or Madman-san? This decides my choice.
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>>8360918
i kneel
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>>8360918
why's he such a madman?!
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I'm a screenshot attracted person
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>>8360936
Let's be honest, the general opinion of people here is just dropdown from whatever the discordtroons say. It's not looking promising for us
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Unironically most of the good things we get come from the discord anons
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>>8360939
the in thread cameo fight scenes are like the most glorious hentai plays after the aphrodisiacal foreplay of the discord screens
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>>8360918
A-kun I'm gonna be so pissed if you don't respond to this I'm so close to getting off...
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>>8360941
Such as?
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Unironically, the only way this thread could be decent again is it every discord troon had a heart attack.
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>>8360933
same. b-sama please tell me what to think.
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>>8360918
>the eps model is perfectly functional, the vpred model works fine with rescale
This? if yes, which value?
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>>8360950
>loras
lol
>finetunes, every finetune we've ever used even
not nai3
>were the ones who used to come here to discuss loras and training techniques in general
none of the regulars who talk about lora training here are discord troons
>2 UIs for genning (reforge, comfy)
forge is less broken somehow and i don't consider comfy to be a discord troon
>at least one UI for training (easy scripts, plus Machina's fork if you want to count it)
i'll give you the shitty gui, sure
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the biggest and only meaningful contribution madmad made to vpred bake is scraping edm2's lossweight network from drhead dms, he couldn't even identify the reason why 0.5 produced oversaturated gens until i found the exact issue

>>8360918
>3. ripped code to do the above after it was put together for him and broke it
now he claims ownership of drhead's and edm2's code lmao
>literally all this list is an exaggerated bullshit at this point
can't be bothered to explain why restarting from eps can bring benefits for the 123125132468124895th time, sorry madman, read the log
>retards can't talk about AI if they have to stop and google whatever they're talking about every few minutes
i admit i do not exactly understand all the math behind diffusion, and i learned a lot throughout this bake, but you spazzing out every fucking minute about various unrelated stuff like you know every part of it is fucking ridiculous
also, don't forget to dm this post to euge to make sure noob vpred never ever gets another chance to become good...oh, looks like you already did
>>8360926
i'm tired of explaining this already, like i said, read the log
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>>8360956
I don't do that bwo, best I can offer at the moment are cute pinups
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I for one really hope that I'm at least one anon's favorite poster here. I know my contributions are of the utmost quality so certainly there's someone out there that looks forward to when I post.
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>>8360893
https://files.catbox.moe/ja11z8.png
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>>8360968
Do you have a nice ass?
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>>8360972
I have a chubby belly that I can squeeze together and it kind of makes a butt crack in the middle?
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>>8360966
boxo please or the artists at least
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sorry b-chama, I'm shipping madman and a together now. time to pack it up and move to /y/.
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>>8360975
dm me on discord
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>>8360974
H-hot
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how many artist tags can you add before noob breaks/just becomes melted
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>>8360977
damn you cathag youre supposed to be benevolent
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>>8360980
About 4 on my experience
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>>8360974
can me and the other anon fuck it from both sides?
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>trying to figure out a unique artist mix I like
>get list of liked artists down to 1060
>trying to refine it further so I can eventually test mixes of the remaining winners
>already on 550 retest possibilities, still going
this is gonna take a long fucking time
if I find the perfect mix it better stay good on the final checkpoint
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>>8360976
/y/ has their own spammer except the jannies are worse over there so I would advise you just catbox your madman/a ship gens and post here
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>>8360990
My mixes have changed drastically on every new version of noob. I would temper your expectations
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>>8360982
I am encouraging you to just be yourself rather than copying others. :)
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>>8360902
nta, but negpip just melts my gens on reforge, dunno why
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>>8360992
You have a point there but I don't spam it broski
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>>8361002
thought that you're noodlefag
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>>8360993
welp, I'm fucked
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>>8361004
Does it really matter?
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>>8361008
oh whoops that first one wasn't the right file.
https://files.catbox.moe/7v4um4.png
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>>8360819
box?
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thoughts on https://civitai.com/models/846917/raehoshi-illust-xl ?
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>>8361011
hmmmm nyo :3
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>>8361013
>nyoposter
opinion rejected
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>>8361011
>all the sample images are miku and touhou
anime is so cool
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>>8361015
just hallucinate big BLACK cocks on those touhou images BWO ;)
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AI generation has made my degeneracy evolve to such point that I think i'm a few steps from genning guro since I've been going more and more degenerate as time goes on

I need to be purified by holy light before I stray too far away from god's light
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>>8361001
skillissue ig
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>>8360891
Yep 40/10
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>>8361018
I don't believe in fetish slippery slope. If you were gravitating towards guro shit then you likely already had a predisposition to liking it. I've been a degen for a long time and I've seen some shit and yet i'll never be into anal or futa which is seen as tame by internet standards.
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>>8361027
>I don't believe in fetish slippery slope.
It's pretty easy to fall into it if you're open to trying new things or let your morbid curiosity win, especially when said new things are literally a few keystrokes away.
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>>8361013
>nyoposter
opinion accepted
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>>8361009
I came really hard to your Nazuna X post thanks bwo
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>>8361018
Do it, Ryona is based
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what is a locon vs a lora and why does this toml I downloaded from here use it for noob
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>>8361027
Seconding this but I do think you can delude yourself into liking something you wouldn't otherwise. I did something like that in HS but the after effect of no longer forcing it is just feeling doubly grossed out by it.
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>>8359160
>PAID
>NovelAI
You do realize that they're actually shitting the thread with spambots while you give them free advertisement, right?
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>>8361045
yes, these threads are made by kurumuz himself
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>>8361042
Snake oil garbage and a crutch for talentless bakers who need gigabyte-sized loras with a billion parameters. A standard Lora is all you need.
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after being exposed to lots of anime feet i became a footfag
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>>8359576
https://files.catbox.moe/lu0f3y.png
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>talk about a thing that needs to be test baked
>"i don't see how it could be useful!"
>he mentions something related to the thing
>instead of answering with something substantial, goes full on rambling about noise, sigmas, ksamplers, loss, explosions
>you can just about see him typing "see, i know more than you!"
>try to bring the topic back to the thing
>he mentions something related to the thing again
>goes full on soliloquizing about debias/minsnr, respecting the noise, testing sucking, color prediction, optimization target
>after some time, talk about the thing again, try to shine the new light on the thing
>goes full on an average scale, variance, betas, latent space, exposure to low snr, and by the way look at my nice gens i made without the thing
>look at the gens
>they're fucking broken
>"you're rushing, X dmed to me that Y..."
>tell them to stop and talk about the thing that needs to be test baked
>"the only thing that matters right now is waiting, current bake is good, lol!"
the thing is "resuming from eps"
this manner of discussion is honestly what pisses me off the most, reading this every day and trying to deal with this schizo flow of thoughts is just impossible. at least i don't treat the opposing side's mistakes as collectibles if they became irrelevant
>>8360966
and after typing this out (and previous post) i feel like i'm becoming a full-fledged discord troon or redditor, so i'm shutting up
>>8360925
it will not be even more broken, it just will never be actually fixed because it will take a somewhat equal or more amount of learning compared to 0.5 if lax continues baking shit
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>madman
Can you imagine believing a man named madman?
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lol i knew sdxl was a mistake, localtards are seconds from blowing their brains out thanks to vpred. you are wasting your time trying to apply copium to a model that is fundamentally outdated and flawed. you'd have a better chance brute-forcing sd3 or flux schnell than you would wasting time on this vpred shit.
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lol
kek even
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>>8361047
For me? It's Lycoris.
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>>8360080
Worry not, nvidia will release 50x0 video cards and we will able to train locally.
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I'm not reading all that
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>>8361057
Very funny anon how about I rape you huh?
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>>8361065
You already blew your load.
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>>8361052
I'm in multiple private invite only lora/finetune testing trooncords who cite madman as the type of behavior they don't want in their test discussions for param bakes because of the way he's acted on other servers. I personally don't mind him, but I agree there are times where it's almost condescending because he goes on some tangent about some basic term that had nothing to do with what you brought up. that being said, those same places think you're autistic for debating like you're on 4chan with everyone and wouldn't offer their knowledge/test findings on the artiwaifu server because they didn't want to risk an autistic shitflinging contest with you. you win some, you lose some, and at the end of the day, you both have raging autism kek
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>>8361067
if you were in any worth being in, the general sentiment is:
"huh, 0.75 (non S) isn't shit, bit tough to use but a really fucking good model, and loras trained against it are about as accurate as they get"
but you're not, you're in coping dramacords.
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>>8361067
you dont want someone who capitalizes swear words every other message to try to make a point? damn thats crazy
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Stop bullying madman, guys! It's mean!
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>>8361069
that's not what I mean, anon-kun. I mean testing training settings for our own loras and finetunes and whatever new snake oil paper releases
>>8361070
if you think swear words are what make him annoying for most people to talk around then you should probably join their autism club
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>>8361072
our queen has spoken...
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>>8361072
Can we bully a then?
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>>8361073
there are two. artificial indulgence and DTC.
The rest are memes, or rather, there are very few people pushing actual useful info and tech and when they're not there, progress isn't made.
Which are you in?
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>>8360945
Pony, Illust, Noob, NAI
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>>8361073
>that's not what I mean, anon-kun. I mean testing training settings for our own loras and finetunes and whatever new snake oil paper releases
lol youre not in any discord like this, this reads like a complete lie, fucking sad really
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>>8361077
>indulgence
nothing happens there now
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>>8361069
>"huh, 0.75 (non S) isn't shit, bit tough to use but a really fucking good model, and loras trained against it are about as accurate as they get"
[x]doubt
I tried running with it and while it's probably better than other vpred versions it's still worse than .5 eps and has some absolutely garbage anatomy issues.
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>>8361077
give me your discord and I'll message you, then you can check for yourself. if you're a member of anything I'm in, then I don't care if you know who I am. otherwise, I have 0 intentions of giving away anything that could give away which servers I'm referencing, because they're private for a reason
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hdg is so in agony
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>>8361085
I just told you the servers retard, good job.
save your breath you don't know shit
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>hes not in the heckin sekrit discord where we share our training settings and perfect gennies
oh nyo nyo nyo nyo
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oh great he's starting to get triggered again
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>>8361087
you posting discord names doesn't confirm what discords have a personal dislike of those two people. if you can't understand why I don't want to put that on the members or owners of the discords I'm referencing, then that's on you
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>>8361067
>and wouldn't offer their knowledge/test findings on the artiwaifu server because they didn't want to risk an autistic shitflinging contest with you
objectively this is not something i would like but
>and at the end of the day, you both have raging autism
can't argue with that, i guess. can you blame me for not vibing with discord troons quite enough though?
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>>8361130
>can you blame me for not vibing with discord troons quite enough though?
nah, I can see where they're coming from but I don't mind you either
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>>8361092
trash got actually triggered for not begin in the supah sikrit klub
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do NOT insult the 'cord
we are silent but we are many........
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>>8361149
>using 'cotd
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>>8361145
BITCH BLOODY FUCK
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is this slop?
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>>8361158
it's the best when clip gives the man ahegao too
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>>8361002
>kula
would commend you but that style is meh
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the bond we share in the server is so great we've been posting loli for years and still going strong
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>>8361077
Bluvoll-sama...
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>>8361161
rule 1 of lolicord is not to speak about lolicord, your cunny is OUT
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>>8361158
aren't her tits bigger?
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>spam stops
>cord drama resumes immediately
hmm noticing a pattern here
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>>8361164
thats her sister
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>>8361166
I wish you'd notice a less disgustingly ugly style to gen with
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>>8361082
pretty much everyone is in hiatus, there is no point in baking for unfinished models unless you really fucking need it now
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>>8360717
>They're both really cool bases for style mixing.
pija maybe, but lately I can't get over neisan's steroid faces and fisheyes
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>>8361067
i don't really give a shit about private lora discords, but it's incredibly silly to hold it against me for describing things from the ground up when talking to people who have literally never trained a model before in their life. do you just want to tell people "it's magic" cause it'll take up less space?
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>>8361170
Present one such style.
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>>8361170
don't bother with him, he'll always pick hideous cartoon network ones when given two choices
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>>8361176
he had couple of passable gens
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>>8360814
box?
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euge just confirmed hes retraining starting from 0.5 with golden noise
lets goooo
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>>8361181
converting to vpred or with grey eps?
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>>8361181
really? isn't it a bit strange to jump the gun on new snake oil paper without any proofs it actually does something?
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>local so assfucked they now have to fanaticize about their bakers being competent enough to restart
somehow worse than the "v3 local release" countdown
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>>8359843
neco-arc, although it mostly looks like generic catgirl
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>>8361173
that's not the problem people have. you're often (from my POV, unintentionally) rude and invalidating of people's perspectives, often missing the forest for the trees. when you think you're being helpful by explaining something, it isn't always received that way. you come off as having a very "if it's not exactly as the paper, it's bullshit!" attitude which is understandably not welcome in places where people value the results of testing everything. apparently you often do things like talking down about someone's research infront of them (disrespectful shitflinging, not honest or constructive concrit). I haven't seen that one myself, but it's something I've seen others bring up as reasons for not liking your behavior. I personally don't mind you and don't care. it's not like I'm socially graceful myself, I'm on here gossiping about trooncordery for fucks sake
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>>8361178
PLEASE BE REAL
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>>8361178
>>8361181
Where?
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>>8361189
fair enough, ty
i do have a general distrust of "hacked together" solutions, even when they are actually good, and i probably haven't done a very good job of phrasing it in a way that doesn't seem outright disrespectful/dismissive of the research in question when i'm really not trying to be that specific. will just have to accept not being welcome in private discords lul
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>>8361184
Shut up, IT'S GOLDEN!
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>>8361181
that would be so stupid i could believe it
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>>8361193
yeah, I wouldn't give too many fucks if I were either of you. as long as you're aware of how you come across and make an effort where it counts, people will either deal with it or they won't
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>>8361173
you don't explain it from the ground up, you're going on a tangent which is two completely different and unrelated things
even here, instead of facing the problem at face value you're bringing entities that only exist in your head and no one can understand and relate to such as
>describing things from the ground up
>talking to people who have literally never trained a model before
>"it's magic" cause it'll take up less space
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when will a-kun and madman-san kiss and make up so our euge-chan tardwrangling team is no longer in disarray, senpai? I'm scared... it's like mom and dad are getting a divorce.
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>>8361201
then man the fuck up and point it out when it's happening, because i don't have a goddamn clue what you're talking about
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the year comes to its end, nothing happened and all we have is models that are just slightly better than year before and absolutely no hope
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>>8361204
i genuinely can't tell sometimes whether it's me being too illiterate or you being an autist schizo and need to be stopped as soon as possible
reflecting on it, feels like in most cases it's the latter after all
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>>8361207
We now have a, madman and b- as thread personalities. How could you want for more?!
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>>8361210
the power of golden noise...
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>>8361211
And we're getting it this sunday.
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>>8361211
S-shower me in your golden sh- noise!
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>astralite
>neggles
>jordach
>euge
>LAX
>b-
>bluvoll
>a
>madman
>lodestone
>drhead
>minthy
>bakariso
>yoinked
>angel
Bow down chud
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>>8361211
I just created some brown noise in my toilet
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>>8361218
Box?
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>>8361220
Is Nai locking in yet?!!!
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>>8361221
yeah
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>>8361221
on god
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>>8361224
kill yourself.
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>>8361225
hmmmnyo
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>>8361072
Go away troon
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>>8361224
not my nyo poster
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>>8361227
How new?
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Can anyone explain the "nyo" meme? Is it some trans dogwhistle?
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>>8361227
no one tell him.
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>>8361230
it's a shitposter dogwhistle that started in /vg/
you can basically write off anyone using the term as a zoomer with brainrot.
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>>8361234
Nyo way
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>>8361230
Nyo came to power with the rise of nyalia. Like peanut butter & jelly.
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>>8361234
>anything i don't understand is zoomer bogeyman thing
oh nyo nyo spotted the nyowfag
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I think I'm starting to like nyo desu senpai, is it over for me? please tell me it's nyoooot
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>>8361224
kinda based ngl
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>>8361231
>>8361229
Hey look the green name says I'm Captain America.
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Guys, I must have hit my head, because I've forgotten some basic inpainting stuff.

How do I get ADetailer to keep changes to a face, even if the face is not in the selected inpainting area? It keeps making the change during processing and then reverting back to the original once the inpainting is completed.
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>>8361239
For me? It's when you shut down a catbox beggar with a well timed Nyo~
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>>8361241
Nyooooo waaayyy it's captain america in OUR thread
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>>8361239
I would accuse you of samefagging, but desu it's grown on me
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>>8361243
nyoice
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>>8361245
it has a ring to it, y'nyow?
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>>8361242
NGL that doesn't sound like normal behavior
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>>8361248
Yeah, I just decided to do the inpainting first and then use AD separately like a sane person
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>>8361214
>astralite
Among all those names, this is the one that /hdg/ will not forget for a long time.
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>>8361249
glad you figured out something that works at least
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>>8361181
Does this mean he will not be training TE and will get rid of NL captions too? Otherwise it will just go back to shit.
Of course I couldn't even dream of them getting rid of e621 too. Anime bake NEEDS soiled diapers.
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>>8361239
It's better than bwo
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cut vpred into pieces
this was our last resort
nyocation, nyo genning
don't give a fuck if noob team quits baking
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https://files.catbox.moe/xejpsi.png
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[picrel]
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>>8361266
Why is it so blurry?
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>>8361267
It's an authentic hentai anime screencap from the VHS era.
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>>8360835
you mind sharing the dataset?
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It starts with one bake, I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how hard you fry
Keep that in mind, I designed this shitpost to explain in due time
All I know, time is a valuable thing
Watch it fly by as the gen counter pings
Watch it count down to the end of the day, the clock ticks h100 time away
It's so unreal, didn't look out for gradients to blow
Watch the time go right out the window
Tryna hold on, d-didn't even know
I wasted it all just to watch noob go
I kept every sloppa inside and even though madman and a tried, it all fell apart
What it meant to me will eventually be a memory of a time when
vpred tried so hard and fried so far
But in the end, it doesn't even matter
Pony had to fall to lose it all
But in the end, it doesn't even matter
One more test bake, I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how hard you try
Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme
To remind myself how we shitpost so hard
In spite of the way you were mockin' me
Actin' like I was part of your nyoperty
Rememberin' all the times (You) fought with me
I'm surprised it got so far
Things aren't the way they were before
You wouldn't even recognize /hdg/ anymore
Not that you newfags knew it back then, but it all comes back to groidspam in the end
You kept every shitpost up and even though I tried to report, it all fell apart
What it meant to me will eventually be a memory of a time when
I snakeoiled so hard and golden noised so far
But in the end, it doesn't even matter
Hebes had to fall to lose it all
But in the end, it doesn't even matter
I've put my trust in discord troons
Pushed as far as I can go
For all this, there's only one thing you should know
they tried so hard and fried so far
But in the end, it doesn't even matter
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>>8361271
I kneel
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This thread has gone through 2 schizo spams and it still hasn't ended
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>>8361274
Make him purple
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>>8361277
Why isn't he purple yet
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wake me up inside
(I can't wake up) wake me up inside
(Save me) call the janny and save me from the dark -skinned male spam
(Wake me up) bid my workflow to run
(I can't wake up) before noob comes undone
(Save me) save me from the nogen I've become
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>>8361262
Based Resort
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Damn, the new NTRmix is pretty fun.
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>>8361281
holy shit, just imagine how long her arms are .. built like an orangutan
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>"adjusting hair" prompt on personalslop
>hand comes out good 8/10 times
>"adjusting hair" prompt on vpredslop
>hands come out fucked every time
guess ill just start upscaling with personalslop it does seem to fix the incredible friedness of their vpred shitbakes
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>>8361284
We need to take a page out of old /ic/ humor and start redlining gens for the lulz.
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>>8361284
Meh, I've seen real artists get away with sillier things, even in official works.
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>>8361210
Is there a term for these images that look like something else when viewed as a thumbnail?
How can I create them myself?
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>>8361293
https://huggingface.co/spaces/AP123/IllusionDiffusion
I don't know the exact settings you'd need in img2img on local to get something similar.
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>>8361294
Thank you. According to your link it's controlnet. I'm not sure img2img alone can do that.
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>>8361300
boxo?
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Let's say I want to upscale from 1248x1824 to 1872x2736 with multidiffusion.
Should I go for higher res (1248x1824) tiles with higher denoise or lower res (832x1216) tiles with lower denoise (~0.3)?
I feel like higher res tiles give better coherence, but lowres tiles give better sharpness and detail, but I'm not sure what to make of results so far. What settings do (You) use?
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>>8360903
About two decades, give or take?
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>>8361303
https://files.catbox.moe/96f3nb.png
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>>8361304
I don't use multidiffusion.
Please don't contact (me) regarding this anymore.
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>>8361311
Sowwy nonnie :c
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>>8361310
I'm curious what led you to use (chibi:0.7) in that particular gen. Did it improve her proportions or something?
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MILF who's too stubborn to throw away the bikini she bought 15 years ago.
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it's out
https://civitai.com/models/743417
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>>8361321
stop
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>>8361323
nnnnnyyyyyyyoooooooo
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>>8361319
Would be fine if she just stopped eating
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>>8361187
What's the style?
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>>8361325
You would be fine too if you just stopped gooning, but here you are lol
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>>8361320
Stile?
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Y'all could have picked up the pencil and saved yourselves from bitching this hard about not getting results
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new bait today
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>new
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Love me some extra-skimpy Satsuki.
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you now remember asurauser poster
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>>8361281
us chadmix chads are still waiting..
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https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/125011417
>find pixiv guy who does literally 1girl, standing, [character wildcard], bikini
>has a zero effort username
>generic shiny skin artstyle
Gotta be AI, right?
>check gallery
>he's been drawing the same for more than 10 years
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>>8361338
Might be the only guy who actually got banned for /aco/. And even then only because it was Korra.
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>>8361340
>drawing the same for more than 10 years
>huge data set for you to use
>train your own model on your own art
>infinite money printing machine
sounds like a smart man to me
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>>8361340
Ayakon if he wasn't evil and picked it up
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how do I fry my gens more? is there any way to use a 2 channel vae?
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Any style Lora requests? I'm out of ideas
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>>8361343
Nice. Just manually inpaint the occasional mistake, save 95% of work.
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>>8361317
I used a chibi lora because it is high quality and has a clean style. The girl was a goblin at first (which kinda needs chibi), but then I made her an elf
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>>8361346
yxyyxy
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>>8361346
take a break until full noob is baked
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>>8361309
Looks pretty great, box?
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>>8361335
>>8361336
boxes
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>>8361330
Here, have a box.
https://files.catbox.moe/n60pd0.png
>>8361356
Sure.
https://files.catbox.moe/9maugi.png
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>>8361346
Sure, I always have some. This guy? https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/115985840 I don't think he's on any booru, too small. Also Chanary with just 29 https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4168224 https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/3174540

Some 3D shit, would involve having to screencap videos. Bengugu, mantis-X, Vicineko.

Kagami Hirotaka from only his newer works. The older sketch-looking pics easily overpower the innate tag.
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Does Noob recognize Facominn?
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>>8361068
Agriasbox?
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>>8360653
Prompt please.
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1girl, loli, realistic
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>>8361363
Seek God!
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>>8361360
Would it not be faster to make one gen than to ask
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>>8359320
Holy based
box?
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>>8361363
Or just accidentally use realismPony instead of reweik, because their names start the same.
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do you all use regularization images? what are they used for? is it like a negative prompt to prevent overfitting on a specific tag/concept or am i retarded
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>>8361371
No, just don't train normalization layers
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>>8361372
>No, just don't train normalization layers
..i-i don't know what that means :(
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>>8361371
Never had them actually improve a lora. But it's been a long time since I tried, way before illustrious.
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>>8361371
so in theory I think if you have a couple of "best" images to use, say official art of your char, they can be used as regularization.

What regularization is in AI is providing values to guide the learning, ie if you knew a variable should be close to 1, you can use 1 as a regularization variable.
I have no idea how this passes all the way through much bullshit to work in image training
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>>8361340
that look so much like ai its actually crazy
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>>8361370
fluffy hair
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>>8361377
guess the AI had to learn it somewhere
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>>8361345
Try FreeU integrated, that shit really makes the color pop
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What happened to reforge? I just updated dev and now it keeps giving me nonetype errors for no reason.
I do one gen after opening the thing and it completely shits itself without me even doing anything and I can't gen again.
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>>8361015
And yet neither of them actually is anime.
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>>8361385
Skill issue
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Here's a peperonconi/goblin's burrow Lora for noob vpred. Would love some feedback for the training settings.
https://files.catbox.moe/7up10t.safetensors
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>>8361385
It's time to abandon sankeoil and retvrn to Forge
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>>8361270
>you mind sharing the dataset?
Here, it's quite a large in terms of size (648 mb). It includes full res images + some crops of mentioned images.
https://mega.nz/file/LU9CnBIZ#Yyd2uqfkhoGWUy69H1ZdDXwd7tT19Tig6b_u8cnfJHg

>>8361367
>Holy based box?
I deleted the original image out of shame, sorry :c
But you can probably get similar results by prompting the following:
>1girl,1boy,black bodysuit,latex,brown eyes,black hair,pov,asian,penis on face,cheek press,tongue out,condom on penis,blue condom,under table,gaming chair,desk,monitor,from above,penis grab,leg grab,(...)
using any 0.75 vpred noob-based checkpoint and together with my D-art lora here for the same style:
>>8360789
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>>8361397
>I deleted the original image out of shame, sorry :c
Pussy! >:(
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>>8361397
>using any 0.75 vpred noob-based checkpoint
I'm retarded and just got back into genning after stopping for 6 months. Do you have a recommendation? I see a million on Civitai.
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>>8361378
Santa's helpers..
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why do most noob vpred gens look like they were upscaled with lanczos
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>>8361398
>Pussy! >:(
Hey YOU try handling more criticism than you can handle some time! >:I

>>8361399
>I'm retarded and just got back into genning after stopping for 6 months. Do you have a recommendation? I see a million on Civitai.
I use these merges found here, specifically the NoobAI-XL-Vpred-v0.75-cyberrealistic31-itercomp version:
https://huggingface.co/Doctor-Shotgun/NoobAI-XL-Merges/tree/main
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>>8361392
Took a bit of effort to find since you spelled both of them wrong. https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ291561
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>>8361401
I'm not sure what that means specifically
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>>8361407
It's the fried schizo.
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>>8361407
idk i just assume every comment boils down to "every image bad"
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>>8361401
Because it's fried. The contrast is all over the place, the linework is FUCKED, literally everything is wrong with it. I don't know how many copium do you need to chug to not see how fucked up the outputs are, stylistically.
Went back to look at old Illustrious gens and shit's miles ahead aesthetically, especially with a lora applied. Fucking sucks at sex compared to noob, sure, but it looked legit nice and soulful otherwise.
Even eps noob gens look better than vpred despite being grey. Maybe someone will come up with cool workflow to upscale vpred gens with eps or something.
Or maybe angel will save us at last, honestly.
>>8361409
Yeah sure sister, it must be one evil insane schizo spammer who thinks that fried models are fried, you show them.
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uh oh
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>>8361413
>cool workflow
You mean img2img, or refiner? The main issue is having to train loras twice, if not more.
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>>8361406
Mixed up the o and the i, sorry. Here's the f95 thread for the first game https://f95zone.to/threads/goblin-burrow-v220322-peperoncino.58454/
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>>8361417
>You mean img2img, or refiner?
Yeah, pretty much.
>The main issue is having to train loras twice
Loras are gonna be more compatible with each other compared to a situation like pony with animagine, and there's much less need in making a lora for every single thing. So if some sort of refining approach is indeed viable (I doubt it but let's imagine), it won'd be that much of a problem, I think.
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>>8361400
So thats what santa is doing all the rest of the year
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what are you going to do with all the coals (blacked gens) you are getting for christmas?
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>>8361160
>that style is meh
alright broski, tell me why it is "meh" and give me an example of a style you like, I may or may not consider it for future mixes
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>>8361431
box?
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What is missing here?
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>>8361434
Inpainting her left hand, she has 6 fingers.
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>>8361434
box?
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hebe status?
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Will we really have a phase of retards bullying everyone into using supir for image cleaning, just because they are autistically able to see slight artifacts with their naked eyes
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>>8361440
As opposed to bullying everyone into using illust, because they can see traces of pony shading through the lora stack
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>>8361441
we might avoid that phase holy shit
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>>8361431
it's too simple and you are making things too easy for the ai to the "you are better off just learning to draw" point. take >>8361158 or OPs (or any style like it really) as an example
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>>8361444
Poor euge is probably fearing for his life after witnessing the western degeneracy and aggression of madman and a
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>>8361448
That's actually not a bad idea, generate your own references for drawing.
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Did a comparision with random tags just to see the outputs, sharing in case it can be useful for anybody.

>masterpiece, best quality, newest, absurdres, highres, very awa, <>, 1girl, red hoodie, lollipop, white skirt, red thighhighs, black boots, sexy

https://files.catbox.moe/ni32su.png
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>>8361181
can someone explain to me what this golden noise is all about?
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>>8361444
i want euge's golden noise
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>>8361444
Fuck off, don't give me hope anon. I can't take it anymore.
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>>8361452
The stage where the trainign was just unsing the danbooru dataset and was not tainted with e621
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>>8361433
>https://files.catbox.moe/hbtokj.png<

>>8361448
>it's too simple
lmao, that's the whole point of that mix you clown
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>>8361452
shitty snake oil with a literal fuckton of color bleed/leak to the rest of the canvas.
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>>8361444
>will take long time with less H100
see you guys next winter
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>>8361458
I'm pretty sure they'll lose the rest of their compute before long
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>>8361444
sekrit channel or edited image? that broken ESL does seem like euge's...
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I have an urgent desire to see a debate between madman and jordach
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>>8361464
that would be cinema kek
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>>8361459
no homo but that is some good looking cum catbox?
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>>8361434
the people in the background look kinda retarded+the extra finger but look good to me otherwise
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>>8361444
why not start from scratch instead
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>>8361458
>>8361454
>>8361462
it's fake unless im not in some ultra secret discord and i seriously doubt he'd announce this in secret
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>>8361471
Nice, the Christmas disappointment comes early this year. Thanks anon, you've saved me from hoping.
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>>8361468
I use the foam tag instead of cum sometimes and it gives good results.
https://files.catbox.moe/1l8nx8.png
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>>8361473
>noob isn't starting from scratch adding even MORE dubious untested sht to its training?
>ugh what a disappointement...
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>>8361475
if you still think that more bake will save the model then you are retarded
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>>8361444
lets dump even more money into the bottomless pit that is sdxl amazing
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In the course of testing refiner flow, I found the source of "very awa". Try prompting it on base illustrious. It looks just like the "ai-generated" tag on pony or NAI.
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>>8361479
awa is an artist tag
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>>8361479
nvm I got tangled up in noodles, it was vpred 0.6

>>8361481
His style doesn't look anything like SD1.5 slop though.
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>>8361475
0.5 was their last decent model, it's the ideal point to branch from
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>>8361473
Realistically, even if they had full compute now, would they be able to bake vpred that isn't fucked up? Let's say they stop doing retarded shit like adding NL captions and start from 0.5eps (danbooru-only is off the table completely). Do they *know* what's wrong with current bakes so they could make it right this time?
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>>8361485
nah eps 1.1 is better.
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Every vpred model since 0.6 has been usable, especially with loras. Retards here will never stop complaining about artefacts, artist fidelity, color biases, composition variety and whatever other nit-pick they can think of. Truth is, you can't please everyone.
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>>8361491
based blind retard with the trvth nvke
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>>8361491
do base ill / non vpred loras work well with vpred models? never tested.
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>>8361456
if thats your fix then so be it but you are wasting a lot of potential you double clown
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>>8361496
No
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>>8361434
the chair should be pointed towards the ocean desu
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>>8361499
The photographer would get wet feet
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>>8361500
he's on a fucking beach
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>>8361491
yet everyone who says this keeps posting fried trash. you are fucking blind. illustrious was great for what it was
eps checkpoints were fine for a eps checkpoint. noob vpred is garbage and I can guarantee you liked pony when it was current if you like noob vpred now.
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>>8361491
Just create loras for your particular vpred bro how hard is that?
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>Pony
It all makes sense now
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>>8361502
People like you complained about artefacts on illustrious and they complain about artefacts on noob now. Maybe make a tier list for artefact aesthetics so the blind part of the thread knows what to look out for
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>fried schizo is shitting again
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>>8361506
why should anybody care about what blind dumbasses like you think?
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>>8361508
I accept your concession
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>>8361421
Refiner does what it's supposed to. I don't know if it actually fixes any of the issues you see, or if this xy is enough to show them.

vpred 0.6 on its own; then swapped into illustrious 0.1 after 12/25 steps; and swapped after 9/25 steps. All I can tell is it softens shading and makes everything looks more hand-drawn, not digital.
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>>8361496
Yes but poorly. Feels similar to using pony loras on illust. It's either too weak or it completely breaks one thing, like faces or shading.
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>>8361506
illustrious "artefacts" were less abrasive and were fixed with loras quite well. Artifacting was noticeable but didn't ruin the model aesthetically.
noob vpred's fried contrast, artifacts and linework are pretty much fucking unfixable, this shit is broken and looks like trash.

just be honest, did you like pony when it was the local meta?
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>>8361512
nta but I feel like pony merges were way more idiot-proof than the ones we're getting now. I could literally just prompt 1girl, some random tags, forget about scores or quality, use no negs, add one style lora and get a nice looking image. With illustrious based stuff, even shit like cybermix, unless I already know a decent mix of artists in advance it's hard to get something that doesn't look like crap with rough linework. The first ten images itt feel completely out of reach right now.
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>>8361512
>Did you like pony when it was the local meta?
Everyone did
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>>8361512
>just be honest, did you like pony when it was the local meta?
nta and he's retarded but as opposed to what, exactly?
kohaku/arti were untrainable garbage and animagine couldn't into smut(it also trained poorly in terms of style department compared to pony).
and surely you're not going to pretend that eff+hll were somehow better.
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>>8361497
>you are wasting a lot of potential
how? doing simple things on a simple style?, go on elaborate
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>>8361528
Uugggh nothing, you listed all the possible options that were out there.
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just prompted

>masterpiece, best quality, newest, absurdres, highres, very awa, dark souls

got this
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>>8361532
pretty kino ngl
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>>8361528
NAI v3, the state of the art anime model available for the low price of 25$ per month giving you unlimited* gens.
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Why not go back to nai if you hate local vpred so much?;)
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>>8361532
Zanzibarta...
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NAI always wins
Thank fuck I'm not poor
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>>8361535
didn't know that counted as local
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>>8361539
Your browser is running locally.
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I see that NAI turned the bot farm on again.
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>>8361541
I can use a browser to do things without an internet connection
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>>8361542
kuro astroturfing doko
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>>8361528
i'm already seeing schizos starting to melt down here but yeah nai was the only option back then unless you are extremely poor or extremely blind civijeet. you could also switch to textgen or non-aishit for all i care. there's just no way in hell you could use pony without feeling like shit after seeing what nai was capable of.
noob eps and illustrious, on the other hand, are fine for a local model. not perfect but not fucking broken.
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>>8361536
i never left nai but i really wish there was a local model which wasn't complete garbage so i could train loras on it
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People really did forget the month of "just take the knot" and "look at all of the KNOWLEDGE"
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>>8361359
I remember i baked a gonzo lora for you back on pony a while back and i wanted to test some new illustrious lora settings so I just used the dataset I had previously

https://mega.nz/folder/nzxEVahS#12JOsb4jX7S_k1IHMxmD_A

let me know what you think of it
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>>8361532
Same prompt in Pony
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0.75 is really good, why is the schizo having a meltdown?
>erm if it's so good post gens
make your own gens you lazy cunts
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>>8361556
>nogen
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>>8361491
shit bait
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>>8361555
Ponylovers?!
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>>8361573
Looks like it worked well enough
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>>8361577
you are right nevermind, actually good bait I guess
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Will I get (you)s when I switch back to base illustrious?
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>>8361335
analbox please?
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>>8361579
you'll get (You)s when you make something good
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>>8361579
Just samefag like the rest of us.
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>>8361581
rofl
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>>8361579
Bro what model is this so good catbox onegai?
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>>8361551
Oh hey, thanks! I thought all the oldfags left already.

Seems to work great so far, I can't tell if it's those settings or just noob being more receptive to styles. I'll try mixing in some other stuff too.
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Can we do next thread without any shitposting?
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>>8361587
Please provide a list of things you consider shitposting so I can avoid them
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>>8361587
won't know until we try
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>>8361587
You guys love drama so much I think it's nearly impossible to
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>>8361588
breathing
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>>8361587
That depends. Can I post my NAI images?
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>>8361592
Only if they are as perfect as >>8360008
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>spam is allowed by /h/'s rules
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>>8361587
If you promise to give me plenty of you's. Otherwise expect a meltie from me!
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>>8361586
That said I do struggle with vpred's tendency to make stuff pure black, more than usual. Might be the style itself though.
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>>8361600
>I do struggle with vpred's tendency to make stuff pure black
enable rescaleCFG, I thought it was yet another snake oil but turns out it isn't
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>>8361602
Settings?
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>>8361604
default
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>>8361362
1boy, standing
+
1girl, from behind
photoshop
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>>8361593
Why did some random friend noob /e/ gen rile the thread up so much?
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>>8361612
We're mentally ill.
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>>8361612
samefagging
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man... 0.75 vpred constantly gives me good hands and feet, and apparently it knows how to count when it comes to toes, but... the artifacts... i'm starting to get really pissed off i swear. not even the cyberfix helps noticeably with this issue.
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>>8361613
>>8361614
Both are correct and the same
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>>8361602
I was using cfg++, figured those two overlap in what they do. But thank, I'll give it a try.
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>>8361615
You accepted pony ugly colours, you will be accept a little of noob's artifacts
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>>8361615
thats what ive been telling you, it was evident from literally the first image i prompted with it
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>>8361612
its not local lmao
we never got a box either
its nai until you can recreate something as good
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>>8361615
Do I have to zoom in to see them? Are they small enough to go away if you img2img at 0.1 denoise with any other model? Should be able to fix them with refiner too.
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>>8361621
wouldnt be surprised if they are already testing v4 gens in the thread by trickling them in amongst the normal slop we see here
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>>8361615
>good hands and feet
and now compare to eps hands and feet
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>>8361602
>rescaleCFG
Or just reduce this number.
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>>8361615
how are you guys even getting artifacts? I don't see them at all on 0.75 vpred using Euler CFG++, 28 steps, 1.5 CFG, beta
no other snake oil
I'm using comfy though and it seems like reforge on the same settings produces something different for some reason
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>>8361624
still better cuz eps doesn't knows how to count, it kinda is just stuck at default hands and feet but vpred 0.75 and the 5 toes and the humanoid feet tag is working now
>>8361622
i don't even need to zoom in dude, the artifacts are terrible, i only need to open the image and the artifacts are CLEARLY there
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>>8361626
I'm still waiting for a gen where I can actually see them. Like are we talking about leftover noise, jpeg compression artifacts, or the AI errors you get from low resolution, or what?
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>>8361555
A snipers dream
100 Niggabytes of memory
He has beforehead, forehead and afterhead
Bro's brains vertical
No matter who he races he's gonna have a head start
Frontal lobe, Frontal globe
Bro remembers what happened tomorrow
His barber stands on the second floor
Why can you still see his forehead with the comments open

SHUT IT!

Guys be nice, he got a lot on his mind
He's been told to "hold that thought" all his life
Bros sweat dries before it reaches his eyes
He needs bangs
Brain freeze will cause an avalanche
I wonder what time zone his forehead's in
(reply)Depends on which way he is facing
Bro starts every sentence with "i know"
His hairline went from landscape to portrait mode
I could see bros head in the previous reel
Bros imagination is in 4k ultra HD
If he drew an H on his forehead Kobe would've survived
His forehead says 6'5 but his eyes say 5'9
The most epic, heroic song of all time bros forehead has a national anthem
..
Bro knew this would happen
.. SHUT IT!
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>>8361606
hrm
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>>8361630
huh?
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>>8361555
Unironically looks amazing. If you ignore the 9head.
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>>8361628
yeah no idea, I saw them clear as day in 0.65/s but not anymore
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>>8360178
kek
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>>8360178
There is no way this is real, right? Lykon said nothing wrong, I guess...
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>>8360725
Local is saved.
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>>8361626
ayo i tried these settings and it came out actually not that bad??????
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>>8361621
Based blind anon
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>>8361617
catbox pls?
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>>8360178
>May be coming from actual data, ie it learned that high scores means having bars
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>>8360178
what solid bars?
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>>8361649
The ones Astra will sling in his rap battle with lykon
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>>8361649
It means he cropped the images wrongly, and when he was bucketing the data he added a solid bar in whatever dimension did not fit the aspect ratio. After training with that, you would get solid bars in most gens. Illustrious also has that issue.
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>>8361654
Is there an example of what a gen with that would look like? I've never noticed solid bars.
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>>8361642
https://files.catbox.moe/7rhxqm.png
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>>8361640
I don't remember the details but iirc madman and a were talking about how CFG++ fixes something with the vpred bake in the same way CFG rescale should, but without 'browning' the image (supposedly rescale has a tendency to do that, I don't use it so idk). might be remembering their convo wrong or misunderstanding, but eh
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>>8361658
Stop asking questions! The bars are real in my head and you must accept my truth!
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>>8361661
Hey Astranigg.
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>>8361658
NTA but I got a few the other day, let me search on my output folder
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>>8361658
You can kind of see it on the right side in >>8361309 it tends to appear more if you use weird aspect ratios.
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>>8361659
thanks
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>>8361658
nta but I just got this a while ago
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>>8361658
nta but paste a gen into mspaint or something with a canvas that is like 2 pixels too wide, creating a thin line of the canvas color on the side of the image. it would look like that. you can sometimes get a similar issue in most models if you gen outside of proper sdxl resolutions (ie not divisible by 8)
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>>8361643
ako box?
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How is SD on Intel GPUs? The B580 is looking kind of nice as a budget card and I'm wondering if it's worth recommending.
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>>8361658
>https://files.catbox.moe/lulyo8.png
>https://files.catbox.moe/iit23y.png
>https://files.catbox.moe/1m4r9u.png
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>>8361672
>Intel GPU
>Worth recommending

If you can't afford nvidia, AMD is the next best option, and that's still pretty painful. I can only imagine the pain of owning intel cards.
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>>8361670
yup
https://files.catbox.moe/r7l2db.png
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>>8361675
Normally I'd laugh too but the MSRP is $250 for specs that Nvidia charges $450 for.
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>>8361658
>>8361671
It's here too, on the right side, though I think upscaling blended it in a bit more
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>>8361654
>Illustrious also has that issue
Did it? I thought it's an artist tag issue, because NAI also had it, but only with certain artists. I assumed that it's due to them simply having lots of letterboxed arts.
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>>8361678
yeah ok, but does it have CUDA cores?
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>>8361672
it's pretty much a Nvidia or bust world, maybe AMD if you want to suffer, troubleshoot to no end and have next to 0 support because everyone's using Nvidia and has no idea what fixes
>obscure AMD issue here
if you plan to use SDXL, 6gb is probably the absolute minimum, 8 if you don't want to suffer, 12 if you want to have a chance to train loras, with more from there always being better. if you're on a budget, look for a used Nvidia GPU, you can probably find a used 3060 12gb Nvidia GPU around $150-200. otherwise unironically spend the money on a nai sub or botting shitvit buzz or something, it's not worth it
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>>8361678
Those specs don't matter much if you have shitty drivers, though. If you're buying it for SD, you also have to remember it all depends on shitty code written by random people on their spare time, and most of that code relies on cuda. I don't think it will be a pleasant experience all around.
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>>8361687
Can't wait for the user benchmark review
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>>8361691
very sexy ako
catbox?
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>>8361659
who?
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>>8361693
boks
https://files.catbox.moe/39bk6g.png
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comfybros... how do I separate faces on detailer?
I thought it was: `happy [SEP] sad` but it's just mixing it all up...
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>>8361623
They would be sticking out like sore thumbs.
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New Thread:

>>8361703
>>8361703
>>8361703
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>>8361400
Cheating on Mrs Claus!
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>>8361626
>scheduler
>beta
wat
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>>8361585
box?



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