Discuss all forms of NTS-themed images, manga, anime, doujinshi, visual novels, games, etc EXCEPT:-Content/Discussions about IRL cuckolding / Larping. This thread is only intended for 2D NTS.-Content/Discussions about straight NTR or NTS --> NTR. (This belongs in the NTR thread)NTS with NTR elements is okay as long as it stays NTS.Also: long discussions are okay but make sure your post has an NTS-related image.NTS works/illustrations:- hhttps://niyaniya.moe/?s=tag:^netorase$ (check mirrors if link is down)- https://hentainexus.com/?q=tag:netorase- https://exhentai.org/tag/female:netorase- https://exhentai.org/?f_search=female%3Anetorare%24+female%3Aswinging%24 (replace x with minus if you're a newfag)- https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/%E5%AF%9D%E5%8F%96%E3%82%89%E3%81%9BPopular NTS Artists: https://pastebin.com/KhVhhGMKNTS Games: https://pastebin.com/Pw97kzWbMore NTS Games: https://f95zone.to/threads/complete-netorase-sharing-games-master-list.90458/NTS Twine Novels: https://pastebin.com/gY3SPHbQSource: [Tanuking Sleep (Drachef)] Tomoe, AV Debut nitePrevious Thread: >>8342947
>>8359554Yeah, that's a shame too, but the fuck buddy route is kinda akin to cuckolding. The pure love one is just depressing.
I still cum to this part. It's just so peak. Her expressions are very erotic.
>>8359853>but the fuck buddy route is kinda akin to cuckolding.she lies to you about you being the father when she gets pregnant in this route too though
>>8360262I think the husband knows, but he becomes a hard maso cuck, so he accepts it. He even doesn't make her stop when she says he's gonna break her. At least she stays in this route, it's your typical NTS to NTR tho.
>>8360347it's definitely the best of all the routes, not that that's saying much. the one saving grace of this game was the short bonus route where you get to fuck your daughter lol
>>8348205>>8348447So how is it coming along anon
>>8360422o shit, das megot the last parts planned out now. was originally just writing just as it came to me, but it was steering towards ntr territory and I didn't want that, like the protagonist being mind broken, forced into his role. unfun. Sat at a little over 130k rn, could probably get it finished by 180. Had the cucked by an incel guy give it a read over and he thinks it's good, problem i've got now is I don't want to rush it and fuck it up at the finish line.you want spoilers in the form of content tags, or you prefer to stay in the dark?
>>8360453Well, thats great. 180k words is a shit ton, dude congratulations. And no, i prefer to stay in the dark and be surprised, just knowing that you made corrections, so that the story stays NTS is good enough. But I'm curious about something. Are you releasing the whole story, beginning to end, or just the first few chapters?
>>8360669whole story in full once it's done. I've got the story beats I want to hit laid out in my head, it's just working out the build up. That's the fun part, don't get me wrong. whole thing is about easing the protagonist into slowly realising his role as a submissive in the relationship, can't just rush it and be like "Yes that's fine, can i watch you get a train ran on you after breakfast?"Don't know if it affects much for you, but story is written about Miruko. Tried my best to get her personality right, but it might be off in a few places. Not strictly set in the MHA canon, she quit being a hero early on and got a high paying job, met our nameless protagonist through that.problem is, first half of the writing is just them getting more and more wound up fucking each other, second half is all the difficult talks about emotions and boundaries and shit. Rewritten a bunch of stuff because i've gone back and reread it and it's not flowed properly or sounded disjointed.And because i'm a certified animal muscle lady enjoyer, i've got one in mind for afterwards with Ghislaine, although i'm not sure that will be a nts story yet, maybe just a will they / won't they.
>>8360693>story is written about MirukoNTA but fucking hell anon you just sent me into overdrive. Now I really want to read your story.
>>8360696Here's the start of page 2. of 198. So far.>context: MC is in a private observational medical clinic, and has been hooked up to a heart monitor for a month, meaning he can't jerk off because it sends his heart rate up and the orderlies come rushing in. He's reading a hardback book on animals, because it's the only interesting thing they've put in the bookshelf for him to read, then meets Miruko for the first time.
>>8360707Believe it or not I only started writing it because I wanted to gen images of her with stable diffusion and needed inspiration. Then it sort of took over my life for a month.title is "One Bad Bunny" btw
The ideal NTS cycle: vanilla --> reluctance--> corruption --> full-on smug NTS wife --> escalation --> realise getting NTRd isn't worth it and reclaim wife --> vanilla with NTS teasing.
>>8360715It's the best for me when there's extreme escalation but with the shared understanding that they'll go back to normal after indulging for a certain amount of time, and then it's shown that they occasionally reindulge between months of normalcy
>>8360693It's high time we have NTS that includes the couple properly discussing things out in the open, and not just being guided by the cucks dick getting hard. It seems you took the time to do just that, which is great!Also, i don't know much about Miruko, not really an anime guy, will i still understand and enjoy the story?
I love to see both extremes of the wife. She's so much in love with her cucky that she gladly pushes the boundaries to the brink of NTR, only for her to stop just at the right moment and get fully reclaimed by the man she loves.
>>8360731I'll be honest my dude, I aint watched it either, I just watched some clips of her on YT to see what she's like.>Gym bunny who likes getting her way and doesn't usually play well with othersThat's about all you need to know. the 'hero' part of the story is very small, basically just enough to justify miruko being there, and focuses more on her being dummy thicc with abs you can grate cheese on.If any MHA fans are reading this and disagreeing, you're welcome to write your own 250 page fanfic and correct me. I ain't stopping you.
>>8360739Awesome! All i can say us that I'm really excited.40
>>8360745>>8360731I would like to point out they do think with their 'bedroom mentality' most of the time, and try and figure out the balance of keeping it in the bedroom and what parts they let leak out into the rest of their lives.Been great fun writing it, though. Some of it's been a slog, either because it's been diificult to work through everyone's emotions or because i've had to rub one out every two paragraphs. hit a bit of a slump at the mo, but that'll pass once I get it all straightened out on how i want the story to progress.
>https://e-hentai.org/g/3154524/3448d3442f/its peak
I'm in the last stages now lads, initial v0.01 release soon (would have been last week but had some personal stuff eat my time up the last few days)
>>8360910Fuck, it is a good day today, isn't it?
>>8360910Holy jewels. It's looking really good anon.
>>8360797I'm hesitant to namefag but if people are interested i'll lurk tomorrow and answer any questions that come up, but i'm off for the night.
>>8360910Discussions about your game have been lost in the replies, can you remind what content you're gonna include? I'm specifically watching out for:>little to no reclaiming or aftercare>secret sex with the bull>becoming a pussyfree atm by the end>feminization or sissy shit
How does this classify?
>>8360986Vanilla roleplaying not NTS
>>8360983Right now my plans are early on there's a little sex with wifey, but less as the game goes onDefinitely secret sex, reporting or watching a recording afterwardDunno yet about 3No feminization or sissy stuff as it's not really my thing (sorry)
>>8361012>less sex as the game goes on>considering pussyfree atmI'm sure that'll be some other enjoyers' kink but unfortunately not mine, good luck with your project though!
>>8361012I hope whichever way you decide for 3 you consider from a game design and story perspective there's a point where reclamation and affirmation (and even reporting honestly) towards the cuck hit a "yeah we get it she loves him" zone and you're better off spending the word count for more cheating sex and drawing cheating art especially if you're talking Act 3 to epilogue type stuff. It also opens up the possibility for the endgame to plant seeds of doubt like the wife is 99% having sex with others now and the husband doesn't even get a crumb of attention, "is that still part of the play? Did the player accidentally choose the NTR end? Are there even multiple endings?" which all give the kino meta-anxiety beyond the usual cuck feelings during the sex scenes.
>>8361028no stag stuffat the start it will be some sex, but will mostly move to handjob, paizuri, blowjob as game progressesonly really considering pussyfree as more of an option? Opt-in opt-out choice because honestly it'd be easy to implement for people who want it as you just get less CGs lolAs for being a living ATM I don't fuck with that either. Pure love NTS all the way.>>8361032Some of my narrative inspiration thus far is terasu's tsubame story. That anxiety can be key yes, but ultimately it is pure love. Wifey is doing this for the MC because she loves him. I am not considering any form on NTR ending at all.also this anon did put it perfectly. Main reason there will be less of it is because yes I don't want to be too redundant. This is an NTS game, so most of the CGs aren't gonna be vanilla. Definitely though handjob, blowjob, zuri, a little sex here and there.I know I cannot please everyone so I am making a game I want to make, and maybe adding a few extra "options" here and there for people.
>>8361039>I am not considering any form on NTR ending at all.based
>>8360910She looks fucking gorgeous.
>>8360983If you include any of this faggot's points your game will be trash.
>>8361216just fap to vanilla
>>8361232Just fap to NTR gay porn, troon.
>>8360839The asshurt on this artist is unreal. Links get taken down in a flash.
>>8361254Just torrent it from nyaa.
>>8360986holy fucking kino
>>8361012Please ignore that baiting retard. Reporting and aftercare are critical.
>>8361012>secret sex --> no consentNTR trash.
>>8361012Please ignore the gay niggas who think the woman having their own desires and autonomy even 1% outside of the cuck's whims makes something """NTR trash"""
>>8361012Personally, I love the sceet sex in nts. They can provoke jealousy in the mc making the story more thrilling. Please keep up the good work.
Of course it's the ESL-poos making propaganda for cheating "secret" sex in NTS.
>>8361216>>8361232>>8361233>>8361353>>8361403Can you guys stfu and let the guy make his game. It's gonna have NTS in it, what else do you want
>>8361420No NTR shit?
>>8361429>nooooooo this game must conform to all 500000 requirements in my autistic and arbitrary checklist or else it's NTR!!!!!!!
>>8361443You can quote where I said that or apologize
>>8361012any size comparisons/small(er) penis content?
>>8361597yes, I have considered it being an opt-in dialogue thing though, bundled with general humiliation>>8361353MC consents to it, I plan for the setup for something like that is for the MC and wifey to have a conversation about it first like wifey says "What if I fucked a guy without you knowing and told you afterwards?" and MC is like "Yeah that's hot."That being said wife is still gonna have some autonomy. It's the key to a healthy relationship, she isn't just gonna be some personalityless doll to project the fetish onto
I am dying for more NTS in the vibe of bokudaka. It checks almost all the boxes for me, more than anything else by a mile.
it sucks being into NTS, I feel like I've just about seen everything worse seeing. I'm stuck in an endless loop of hoping new stuff will come out that lives up to my expectations but 99% of the time it doesnt
>>8361798The game is good, but the only route worth playing is the Dojima one
>>8361390Definitely don't ignore the people warning you that it's going to be ntr trash. It's not random that they call out so much stuff. Even vulgar reverie started out so good and now she's letting other men dominate her out of nowhere, not standing up for her husband, and fucking around without his consent while barely talking to him and the plot armor insists it's nts because "he likes it". Nah, that's nts to ntr to nts. We want nts that stays nts, no bs loopholes, and idc what u call it we want the wife to stay fully devoted to her husband and to prefer him, and for the nts to exclusively be for his enjoyment and not her own. She should feel good when he sees him lusty and jacking off, maximum. Inb4 some turbo fag screams autism or some other degenerate gaslight. Let people who actually enjoy the genre enjoy the genre in peace without ntr pigs trying to piss and shit everywhere. It's like they only get pleasure from ruining things for other people and making their presence known everywhere like vampires.
>>8361862For sure. I pretty much ignore the naoya route. But the common path and Dojima route are so strong, they're virtually perfect for me. The culmination in the first sex scene is peak. Especially from her pov. And a bunch of scenes after that are good too.
>>8361870>not standing up for her husband, and fucking around without his consent while barely talking to himI've not played since .05 but I'm starting up now, right before the last night of the vacation. How long before I encounter this stuff? I'm a backer so I really want to know if things have gotten out of hand so far to know if I need to terminate my sub.
>>8361933It's immediately after the vacation.
>>8361933dude is having a momenty, it's like maybe 10% of what he's saying. It's the arc immediately after the vacation so it won't take that long to get there and have your own opinion, though
>>8361039Personally I think the cuck getting less sex over the course of the game is hot, so long as it's stated or implied that the couple's relationship isn't becoming permanently sexless.
Only gay faggot ntr troon niggers enjoy sexless cucks.
>>8361981that is basically what I am planning yes, they're still gonna be having sex it's just less of it is on-screen really
>>8361870>she's letting other men dominate her out of nowhere? I will assume you're talking about the latest update, where BOTH the husband and Amelia were into it. I repeat, BOTH were into the """NTR""" roleplay.>not standing up for her husbandSince when? Since the start of the game Amelia does this because she loves the husband (aka the self insert, the player)>fucking around without his consent while barely talking to himDude, she fucking recorded a video and spoke to him all of the time, except when she was having sex. She even told him they were hitting on her, to which the husband gave his consent, with saying "Is he your type?". You need to read between the lines. You expect her to text all of the time when she's really far away? Waiting is key here, it makes you excited wondering what she might be doing, because, I say it again: The husband is a self insert.>Let people who actually enjoy the genre in peace without ntr pigs trying to piss and shit everywhereNo one is trying to piss on anyone anon, but these games will always involve something that resembles NTR or cheating, even if it's roleplay. It's more content for the game. Even if you stop playing, they will still add content that is not to your liking. You should settle down and see it as more content for the game. Only weak people and retards complain about more content.Nyatorase dev, don't listen to these fags trying to derail your game and make what you want.
Nyatorase is such a cringe name, from all the shit you could've chosen.
>>8362043I don't see you coming up with ideas for him
>>8362043idiot
>>8362046Not my problem>>8362048Troon
>>8362110absolutely obsessed
>>8362043I think it's funny
>>8360910not so patiently waiting...
>>8361978no offense but I cannot trust people in this thread because nine times out of ten you've got a work where the girls says "I love the bull more than you and am leaving you for him and I'm not joking" and then you people will be like "wooow you just want the girl to be a sex slave? She has her own desires and you just need to read between the lines! It's totally NTS!"
>>8362120stop trying to force your fetish on this thread
>>8362143Don't stop cutting your wrists
>>8362142That "read between the lines" NTRnig needs to get his brains blown out by a shotgun.
Well, fuck you guys too for not seeing past the roleplay and crying "It's NTR!!! HURR DURR"
I was also not the biggest fan of the new VR update - didn't like the bull at all, and I wish a few things had been different - but it's a big stretch to say there was no consent, or that it was NTR. It just feels hysterical to say as much, and kind of undermines the legitimate criticism.
>>8361420no combination of tropes that's posted no matter what they are can prevent at least ONE anon from sperging out. there's literally no winning
>>8362227this. if you want to make content, make content. if people enjoy it, great. if not, ah well.
>>8362242Sure but if someone makes NTR content and posts it in the NTS thread it's only justified for anons to call it out.
so why are people mad about the VR update? it's very clearly roleplay, there's not even any "reading between the lines" you're just actually retarded if you think this is ntr
>>8362286I learned to not listen to this thread after people freaked out about how VR was gonna become "ALL INTERRACIAL" or whatever when that 100% was not the case. It's just people freaking out about something minor and deciding that the rest of the game is ruined for it
>>8362284Oh yeah absolutely. But there's no point pandering to everyone because some like feminization, some dont, some like reclaiming, some don't, some like chastity, some don't, some like femdom, some don't, etc etc etc etcfar as i care so long as the cuck consents to what's happening, it's NTS. even if she's going behind his back and sleeping with other people and not telling him about it, if they've agreed to it beforehand, that's fine
>>8362286My read of it is that things advanced a bit too quickly and the loss of control felt dangerous. It went from the vacation where everything was super vanilla, they took their time finding a partner they knew was a good guy and got along with both of them, they confirmed anything they were gonna do before they did it, and had their first in-person sex with Jack while handholding. Now, the very next event, she's out of town in a place he doesn't know, doing things with someone he doesn't know (who turns out is not a cool guy and is legitimately calling her a whore and trying to make her cheat on her husband), and the whole time she's texting these leading questions about how far he wants her to go. Of course he's thinking with his dick so he's saying yes to everything. The writing plays everything off with no drama, but it's still an iffy situation that escalates very quickly compared to the story thus far.
Almost finished lads, just some finishing touches and bug testing expect a release late tomorrow (Friday)I will post the F95zone thread here when it's out!
>>8362338The thing that struck me about the new update was it felt like the escalation to the dance floor scene where the wife was getting handsy with a stranger, but as you mentioned it felt like things are moving too quickly. I think part of it too is there doesn't seem to be a logical order of how the wife escalates things. The fingering of the ex in front of the husband and then blowing a stranger on the street feels like they're supposed to have more buildup for what was at the time just a budding NTS relationship trying to figure out the dynamic. Their first night with the beach bull was actually played very well, but when it was revealed that she wanted the next play to be a sex tape with another practical stranger who was completely unaware of the NTS play and was seriously trying yo steal her it once again felt completely out of order and too much too quickly.
>>8362379>kissing the cuck with a mouth full of bull cumBASED AND TRUE UNDERSTANDER OF NTS HOTNESS
>>8362379>cat shermie from KOF cucking metruly a christmas miracle
>after cumming to a fantastic humiliating cuckold reporting, the cuck gets jealous and reclaims his girlfriendThis artists gets it. Lots of consented cheating sex, a lovely amount of teasing cuckold reporting and ending it off with reclaiming, 10/10.
>>8362391Seconded, it's such a shame how few NTS games have a nice cum kiss after the LI finishes sucking off another guy. Off the top of my head I can only think of Long Story Short, The Hotwife, and Broken Sky.
I wish that was me
>>8361961Its near the end of the vacation too. Jack starts trying to take charge and you don't get a say in it and she let's it happen. Should have had the option to send him on his way after he said he's gonna fuck the shit out of her I guess. I don't care if he can't do his job correctly without trying to dominate either of them out he goes immediately and never come back. He got a gift by them and he didn't respect that gift, and the wife was fine with it which makes her a whore, and no reclaim she cut him off from sex during vacation and it stayed that way up until her trip and then they both lost their mind he goes full beta cuck and she turns into a deceitful whore with that douche, like she went from threatening to cut off geist tongue for speaking out of turn to this gutter trash? and the reader is supposed to be ok with it because "read between the lines it's nts"? Hell fucking no. As far as I'm concerned .5 was where the story stopped being good nts teasing and just turned into another generic ntr disguised as nts.
Fucking love this girl, even if she gets lost in the cheating sex she still loves her bf without hesitation
>>8362036Doesn't make me excited nor did she have my consent as the so called self insert. From .6 onwards I felt relegated to the beta cuck who is being led into a dead end marriage where you're supposed to pretend everything is fine. She's getting into it the wrong way. She should be answering his phone immediately if he says he feels bad or he's not ok, immediately, not 6 or 10 hours later. And she shouldn't be withholding sex, and she shouldn't be making decisions like that without asking him first, and you the so called self insert shouldn't be shoe horned into being a spineless cuck on even the dom route and expect to pretend everything's fine. If he adds more stuff to .6 and .7 retroactively fine, great. Until then though the story is just about dropped off a cliff. Let me make it clear her dialogue is still very sexy and hot, her dirty talk is amazing and her being there getting him off while dirty talking him is absolute peak nts dialogue I've seen so far. Her actions on the other hand suck ass and id enjoy the story more if it was all just pillow talk the whole time and you've just been laying on a bed and her telling you a scenario. All the things she did and allowed to be done and said are not ok.
>>8362719Nah, I don't agree with that, Jack was fine. The MC was there for everything, there's no shadow of a doubt he was down for everything that happened, and Jack was unbelievably cordial through that whole thing (maybe unnecessarily so, but I think it worked well). That line you pick on, of Jack saying he's gonna fuck her brains out, I can sorta see why it sounds disrespectful or like he's taking control, but really it's just a turn of phrase. He's saying he's excited to have this opportunity and wants to give them a good show. It's exactly what they wanted. If MC wanted to pull the plug at any point he could've, he was in control.The no reclaim is probably just a product of the development model. They feel pressured to release updates quickly, so stuff with MC is getting a little underlooked. They said they plan on going back and fleshing it out more though.
>>8362142Ntrfags do nothing but gaslight when they can't even stick to their own genre and need to beg everyone for attention and to agree with their parasitic way of life. And they wonder why no one respects them or wants to even hear them speak.
>>8362726the live2d is a miracle of the universe
>>8362196Its a story with limited context because you can't at any point call a safe word and say stop. There's no agency so you shouldn't be expected to read between the lines, so a better story is more blunt about it. Nts club had some weird shit in it but it made it clear in key pages it was nts especially at the end, and u saw plenty of pages where she put her focus on pleasuring her boyfriend he was number 1 at all times even when she's moaning like a whore she's giving him a tit job to make sure he cums for her. That's good nts while also riding the line of what's acceptable.
>>8362753>Nts club had some weird shit in it but it made it clear in key pages it was nts especially at the end>70 pages of pure ntr and 1 page of teehee i was kidding at the end>"that's good nts"ntrcucks everyone
>>8362201Think the reason people are screaming about it is because it needs to be because their voices always get unheard or diminished. Look at all the people outright telling them to struggle about how they feel about it when they are the heart of the target audience. It takes an ntrfag to tell them they're idiots and to stfu, and they always do it so they not gonna be listened to is my bet. Ppl seen it too often and it's a broken record at this point so either acknowledge it as valid or watch it grow. The only people on an nts thread that should be invalidated is ntrfags who try to snake their way in. And they can't do it directly so they have to snake, which facilitates hyper vigilance. Self feeding loop that is fixed by invalidating ntr only. Just say ntr is dogshit to preface and u probably lying diffuse it immediately, for the good will.
>>8362291Interracial is the next update so it goes without saying there's gonna be people pushing for qos content. The dirty talk would be hot but the sex scenarios the author has been doing is such a swing and a miss for me. Dialogue s tier sec is c- at best.
>>8362338Almost all nts stories do this. They tease really well and build it up well, then the sex scenes happen and the writing falls off a cliff and you have just a woman fucking another guy like it's normal and the husband is some sprinkles as an afterthought. It's probably why so many people are pissed is they're sick of it, me included. Especially when this one started with such peak writing and just dropped off in a matter of minutes it was just crazy. It's like the author felt rushed or choked or something idk.
>>8362726Yea I wanna see more of her. Especially more depiction of her getting her boyfriend off like that. The more she showcases it's all for him the better. Show off her sweet side to the max.
I think the reason why a lot of people feel like the wife in VR is taking too much control over the situation and making the husband into a spineless beta cuck is because the game misleads the player into thinking there are two distinct routes: you are given "choices" where your MC is supposedly this confident secure strong guy and one where he has a humiliation fetish. In reality the only difference between the two routes is one has normal dialogue and the other includes lines from the wife where she makes fun of your small dick. Every other line of dialogue is left unchanged so in the "strong" route it just makes it seem like the guy told her wife about his cuck fetish, she accepted it without any resistance, and then started to basically take control and set the pace of everything and the husband only says "wow yes that's so fucking hot".
>all these blogposts>not a single fucking hentai picDid the Hinako otters move on to Vulgar Reverie or something
>>8362742Nah I don't think it was about giving a good show he clearly wanted to fuck. The biggest problem was after he came once he decided to take over and the wife and husband both did nothing. I would have wanted the option for at least her to tell him off and say you're done in the sub route, or for the husband to be able to tell him in the dom route. The couple was busy and ready to reclaim he has no business interfering after they let him get his nut. Like fuck off bro lol. He tried to pass it off like he wanted a third shot but can see they wanna be alone it's like nah dude fuck off, no number for you if you don't know your place, no second shot, kick rocks. The whole draw of this story for me was how the wife will chew a dude out for disrespecting the husband or their marriage and that changed the moment another dick went into her. What exactly am I supposed to see that as? Read between the lines roleplay? Fuuuuuk no.Sorry if that's Sperry or whatever it's just how I feel. And clearly I'm not the only one. I just saw vulgar reverie and got my hopes up super hard and within 10 minutes it was taken away. It's just disappointing. I know I'm being dramatic but it's like throw a dog a bone here haha. 1 nts with singular absolute devotion from the wife with no reading the lines, that's it.
>>8362742Reclaim getting overlooked always happens in nts games, which kills it for me personally. The cheating sex is the least important part for me u could have no sex scenes and just keep it pillow talk and I would be happy with amies naughty talk while she jerks him off. The sex scenes take away from the relationship as far as I'm concerned because they are done at the expense of the couples dynamic rather than enhance it. That simple i don't accept half way anymore.
>>8362796>>8362792Interesting. Hypothetically, do you think a game/VN would work if there is *only* verbal reporting during reclamation? The scenes would only be with the husband and wife but while they're doing it she'll describe how her cheating sex went and if the better he performs the more descriptive she gets as a reward. Is that still even NTS?
>>8362756Fair point but it's all I have for at least somewhat of a reference. Got any better examples cuz i really can't think of any. 1 or 2 good true nts?
>>8362777This desu
>>8362379giga based
>>8362783They have a compulsive need to explain why everything that doesn't 100% adhere to their specific definition of NTS is actually NTR at least once a day.
>>8362804I don't know what that is label wise and I wouldn't care either way cuz i would definitely get off to that. I'd be fine if there was no cheating sex as long as she does good dirty talk. I've heard a story floating around of a wife that did this for her husband who didn't actually ever cheat on him but did reports cuz she wanted to respect his fetish but also respect her own preference. She basically lied to him one of the few times it could be considered justified and said ok my husband is a cuck and I will cuck him as well as I can without actually cucking him. So he got no vids no pics because femdom makes the rules and ofc cucky was grateful beta, and she would shower before coming home or whatever and say no you don't get any evidence that's not how this works. Idk if fake but it sounded like a damn unicorn and I would very much be happy with that if it was me, even if I knew the truth just knowing she'd go that far would make anyone very happy imo.So yes show me this story that's all reporting and all the rest of what you said. Really it's what the woman does that makes or breaks it all. Before the n u need the ts. I will take the ts without the n if it guarantees no r, if that makes sense.
>>8362792>The whole draw of this story for me was how the wife will chew a dude out for disrespecting the husband or their marriage and that changed the moment another dick went into her.Anon, what...? Either I'm misunderstanding, or this shit makes no sense. He ASKED her to have sex with someone else. If she does as he asked, she's not disrespecting him, she's granting his wish. I do agree that if she stops doing it for him and does it for herself because she's surrendered to the dick or a certain bull then that's a different matter, and indeed goes in the NTR bin, but so far she's clearly doing it for him. My read on Ammie so far is she would drop this NTS business at any second if hubby asked her to, and that's how it should be. The second round with Jack I also see where you're coming from, but I still think you're being a little autistic. MC was totally into it, and added a little bit of necessary tension. That scene was boring AF before and over with way too quickly. And he didn't reclaim after cause they wanted to get the update out the door. Trust me, I want the relationship between the couple to be strong too and think the intimate scenes with them are vital, but the bulk of the fetish is we want to see her have sex with others, so it makes sense the devs are prioritizing giving us that for now.People moan about others not posting pics, so here's a mod I made of the 0.9 scene.
>>8362635Didn't they break up?
One thing you guys have to keep in mind is that NTS is inherently boringStories are build upon a single thing, conflict, and there isn't much space for conflicts in NTS that doesn't involve NTRYou're pretty much left with angst and the cuck/GF spiraling out of control
>>8362879>NTS is inherently boring Wrong, I'm perfectly fine with an infinite cuckold reporting session. I don't need escalation, I need smugness and loyalty.
>>8362897Boring in this case isn't meant to be just negative, some people watch the same movie 50 timesIt's mainly an issue for the writer, no one wants to write the same reporting scene over and over again
>>8362879You can make it a slow burn and focus on getting the LI to cheat in the first place, or you can escalate beyond sex with lewder sex acts (anal defloration, pregnancy, etc.). You don't need NTR to keep things interesting.
>>8362766I'm not the biggest fan of interracial, but if it's just part of a larger whole I can tolerate it. There were people that were saying that the REST OF THE GAME was gonna be interracial and when I went and checked the discord that was emphatically not the case. It taught me to not worry about people sperging out in this thread about future VR decisions, cuz the devs seem to have their heads screwed on straight
>>8362923I just hope it's skippable; once the wife has burned coal I never want to touch her again. It's disgusting.
>>8362879I don't agree with this take. It's a highly taboo act. It has drama baked in. There's so much juice to be extracted just from slowly breaking down barriers and the communication aspect. The problem is when people write it as if there's no barriers, when the wife or the husband have no issue with it happening, in that case yeah, you have to resort to more extreme stuff to build up tension. But that's a less powerful way to do these stories, and risks taking it to NTR.
>>8362805>Fair pointNo it isn't. You're responding to stale bait.
>>8362924It won't be skippable and it won't be the last time either. Now get out, gay cuck.
>>8362284That's one of the things that can't be agreed on. It's all a semantic waste of time
>>8362879This is only the case if you're extremely restrictive with your definition of NTS (for example, those people who say Netorase Club isn't NTS).
>>8362837don't give these retards any attentionwhat they want from NTS is a girl who just sits there and takes it without saying anything, a bull who doesn't say a word, and most of the sex scenes to be the MC fucking the shit out of the girlessentially they just want netoshisu disguised as netorase.>>8362879Wrong, you can definitely have friction also there's nothing wrong with "NTR scares" in NTS, kinda like in Tsubame where she's like "Bye haha I'm breaking up with you" and then a minute later she's at the door with a "Haha just kidding, knew you'd get off to it."Otherwise you just get vanilla with extra steps
>>8362837I'm perfectly content being considered autistic about it, over bending to things that I personally don't find tolerable. He was ok with it because he was scripted to be ok with it, I wasn't and the mc is supposedly according to many other considered a slot for self insert. I'm not saying her intentions might not be good anymore, I'm saying that she's changed because how she responds in situations is different now and it started happening when Jack had sex with her is when the husband in my eyes wasn't number 1 on her list anymore, even if it might still have been a priority. You don't know she would drop it in a second because there is no option to ask for it, so it's a moot point when I personally see something that displeased me and I can't ask it to stop or change. She was sweeter up until having sex with Jack. I'm not saying it's because she had sex with someone else, I'm saying that is when she changed for me in a way didn't like. Don't get me wrong her dirty talk when she's reporting on the trip is hot, but that's a saving grace her sex tape is nasty to me and so is the way she is ignored him all day, just me. I end my relationships with women when they decide to leave me on read, unless they have a very good reason. Realistically there is no good reason the reason is she doesn't think you're important enough, and let's be real not a lot of people are working jobs or are so busy in day to day they someone they love they can't spend 2 minutes out of their day to be like hey babe I'm really busy I'll talk when I can.Its not sexy for me knowing she deliberately ignored his text until it was dark and was like teehee I cheated on u did u like it? And there's no option to tell the truth u just have to be like yes more plz. I would have said no in fact I think how you just treated me today is grounds for re thinking the marriage. He went doormat the moment they went vacation almost, and it's not sexy. Can't even fuck his own wife anymore apparently.
Nothing is better than having a loyal whore gf who only shows her warmth and true love to her cucky
>>8363046Tsubame fake out was 2 pages tho and in the story she also jk him in seconds. Like she was at his door saying hey I was kidding practically by the same time he finished the video. U don't leave your husband in the dark all day after leaving him on read when he's clearly not ok. He's the idiot plot pigeon holed into going haha it's fine it just made it hotter in the end. No that's not how I feel, and I don't appreciate being told that's how I'm supposed to feel. I don't like being told how to feel and how I'm not allowed to feel. Control and safety gone, wife wholesomeness gone, boner gone game over.
>>8363050Jesus fucking Christ dude, we get you didn't like it. Shut the fuck up already
We're witnessing a Renaissance of NTS visual novels fueled by cheap AI Art:https://f95zone.to/threads/my-true-desire-v0-1-1-dtz-games.236415/https://f95zone.to/threads/moonripple-lake-v0-352-bcg.220933/https://f95zone.to/threads/college-of-mysteria-v0-3-happystevegames.230209/https://f95zone.to/threads/my-new-girlfriend-ch-4-circlegames.207440/https://f95zone.to/threads/blurring-the-walls-v0-5-2-torimiata.175854/https://f95zone.to/threads/phone-story-v0-2-taptus.236390/https://f95zone.to/threads/netorase-phone-le-stag-fan-art-thread.225809/https://f95zone.to/threads/ntr-phone-v0-18-17-shybox.211604/It's a good time to be an NTS fan.
>>8363063as someone who is making a game like this I actually want to eventually transition over to using a real artist, I just have no money to do so at the momentI am afraid though that my use of AI art will cause a lot of good artists to just block me or avoid me out of principle when I do want to approach someone for art
>>8363074If they were going to block you over using AI they would probably have been horrible to work with anyway.
>>8363074>>8363088yeah ive seen people spaz out over not paying artists to do your beta art too. Ridiculous
>>8363074Just use different aliases
>>8363074Please don't do this. I have watched SO MANY GAMES be destroyed when their devs decided that they wanted to go back and remaster their old art, or to go forwards by employing more time-consuming art techniques (animated sex scenes, Live 2D, etc.) They inevitably stalled until the project was abandoned. Real artists ship. Focus on pumping out more content on a consistent schedule instead of chasing aesthetic perfection.Besides, 5 years from now AI art is going to be indistinguishable from human art. Don't worry about it.
>>8363094The trick is to remaster the art AFTER you finish the game.
>>8363095You are better off just making a new game at that point.
>>8363099Or you could milk your paypiggies for more money with minimal effort.
>>8363094No way you're seriously posting a quote from Yudkowsky, that fedora retard who believes computers are sentient and trying to kill us. AI art's reputation is not getting better over time, it's getting worse. You're shooting your project in the foot by not hiring a real artist.
>>8363094I would agree with your point if I'd read it in isolation but that screenshotted tweet is so mind-numbingly retarded that it makes me doubt the intelligence and intent behind it
>>8363063tfw I've already played every single one of these
>>8361254I doubt it's the artist himself, it's most likely the irodori jews again.
>>8363063>https://f95zone.to/threads/college-of-mysteria-v0-3-happystevegames.230209/At the moment this one is just netori/cuckquean. Supposedly there's going to be swinging/netorase later on, but it's hard to tell when that will be since the most recent content had a good swinging set-up that went nowhere.
>>8362379Please consider customizing the UI, the default renpy style always makes a game look like a cheap cashgrab.
I'm so ready tonight for hot goth catgirl NTS
>>8362726I'm so confused about the chronology of this series.
>>8363324It doesn't have a timeline per se, except for part 1 and part 2, the rest is just Blacked NTS.
>>8363063It's genuinely funny how once one AIslop game becomes popular there's suddenly a billion of them trying to do the same thing.
>>8363094>picReminder that this is the retard who doesn't believe diet and exercise make you lose weight and wrote a long-ass Harry Potter fanfic where he basically just throws around wikipedia summaries without understanding them.
>>8363284bro that's where u fucked up, you gotta spread 'em out and have a few white whales on the backburner. I'm still waiting for Blurring the Walls. Keep them like desserts on a diet
>>8363324That one is OC and unrelated to author's previous NTS works.
>>8363327I'm surprised it's NTS VN's, I thought AI would have revitalized the Slave Training genre instead.
>>8363063played them all, only liked 3 games from the list desu.or maybe 2, since i get the feel blurring the walls might be getting abandoned.>>8363323is it really releasing tonight? the day is almost over here, really looking forward to it after reading anon's posts about it.
>>8363063how many of them are worth playing thus far? (ignoring ntsphone which i've played and is great, and ignoring ntrphone which i've played and it's meh)also thank god for ai art for making 3dcg redundant. all 3dcg games are completely unfappable bonerkillers and all the characters look like creepy mannequins.
>>8363386Most are too early in development, and don't have any or any significant NTS development.
>>8363379I guess so, he said friday. We just gotta wait for nyatorase dev to make the thread in F95. It's already friday night here in my country (Argentina)
>>8363321I will soon, I'm still getting the hang of renpy so most of the UI changes and such won't be until the game's first update. I was gonna try and polish it for this alpha release but I've been cooking for too long so fuck it I'll release this first version NOW and then update the UI later (it's the holidays and a family member is in the hospital, sue me)anyway game has been packaged, will post it here within the next few hours
>>8363399Thanks nyatorase dev. I hope everything will be fine with your dear family member, my best regards.
>>8363392>It's already friday night here in my country (Argentina)salutions, south american bro! (brazil).
>>8363412Hello there manito! boa noite or buenas noches as we say xD
>>8363402>>8363399>>8360910Here's the link to the f95zone request thread: https://f95zone.to/threads/vn-renpy-nyatorase-shared-passions-v0-01-sadcat.236668/Im too lazy to wait until it gets properly moved.No choices in the current update, I didn't have time, but I will go back and add an option for opt-in opt-out humiliation dialogue. Or I might make that an option in the next updateAlso will probably add a joke ending where you don't tell her and the game immediately ends.
>>8363423wow I'm glad I just happened to refresh the moment you posted lol
>>8363423Thanks dev, I just posted a nice message. Downloading rn.
>>8363423Neat. I'll be checking this out tomorrow.
>>8363433>>8363428>>8363425>>8363423ah, the mods already moved the threadhere you go boys:https://f95zone.to/threads/vn-renpy-nyatorase-shared-passions-v0-01-sadcat.236671/#post-15618507
>>8363423I already wish there was more content, very strong start!
>>8363449thanks! The first update will probably be a little more content-dense (don't quote me on that because half the time is probably gonna be spent on new UI and adding sound effects to existing scenes)
>>8363437>that immediate seethepost in the threadKEK
>>8362783Truly the worst posters itt, and just when I thought we were free of them.
>>8359713>https://f95zone.to/threads/complete-netorase-sharing-games-master-list.90458/As much as I love Zetsu I have to ask: Are you REALLY just using that old list? Why not come to the newer and more frequently updated list? This one:>https://f95zone.to/threads/complete-netorase-sharing-content-master-list.211290/In this (shilled) list there are not only more games but also everything is more organized. It counts with both newer games from the website and also older games that were never reviewed. Besides, it's a Netorase content list so it means that it will include books/light novels, audio dramas, JAVs and manga! Everything is being updated still but keep an eye on it. There are big things planned!Also, shoutout to that one autistic anon who sperged out on me about NTRS /NTS, hope the stress didn't kill you.
>>8363423>>8363063>generic 3dish>disneyish styleyikes
All this recent talk about writing stories and making games really makes me want to make my own, I know I have the writing ability I just lack the experience in coding and I'm a terrible artist lol
>>8363565Pair up with a coder. U do writing he does coding. Reason so many of these flop is because it's one guy trying to do everything. Delegate and each do what u are good at and enjoy.
>>8363565There's a reason everyone's using AI and renpy.
>>8363565ren'py is insanely easy to use you don't even need coding experiencealso yeah AI art
>>8363574I don't think I could bring myself to not only reveal to someone that I'm into this fetish, but also convince them to work with me on a game haha>>8363577>>8363593true, I'll have to look into good image generators
>people are unironically shilling AI slop instead of encouraging them to learn to draw or hire an artistGuess most NTScucks are poorfags here.
>>8363605It's a pretty big investment, how much do you think that would cost? I think I might jump on the wagon.
>>8363613Depends on what kind of scenes you're going for. Simple things like just the girl showing in some kind of pose could be around 50$ if it's good art. More complex stuff can cost you like 100$ more. The only acceptable way for someone to use AI is to generate backgrounds. Saves you costs and time.
>>8363605give me the money and I'll hire as many artists as you want
>>8363627I'm good, I'll keep commissioning private pure NTS stuff while waiting for a good, hard-working nts dev to come around who actually draws.
>>8363605>>8363636Post some of your collection here, I'm curious to see what quality pieces your money has gotten you.
>>8363605>>8363636this is cope
>836367899% of new NTS games are AI slop. Stay poor.
>>8363565Are you sure your concept really needs to be a visual novel in the strictest sense? I would really encourage you to try just writing a simple story first (you can upload it to AO3 or Leddit or whatever).If player choice is really important to you, try Twine. Its presentation format works better for text-heavy CYOA with little to no images or music.
>>8363565Twine is the easiest way to make a game with zero coding experience. Ren'Py is better if you can handle it, but better a game exist in Twine that it not exist at all.https://twinery.org/https://www.adamhammond.com/twineguide/As for art, you can use Stable Diffusion. Fooocus is particularly easy to use, while still being a very powerful generative tool.https://github.com/lllyasviel/Fooocushttps://www.datasecretslox.com/index.php/topic,9003.0.html
>he thinks poorfags who can't commission have a strong enough rig to generate with SDKekaroooo
>>8363529>Why not come to the newer and more frequently updated list?Because I didn't know there's a new one. Will use that on the next OP
>>8363529What's NTRS? Plural of NTR? I only know NTS and NTR.
>>8363720You can buy a used GPU for a couple hundred bucks, which you can then use to generate thousands of images. That same budget would get you maybe a half dozen images from an artist.https://www.ebay.com/b/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2070-NVIDIA-Computer-Graphics-Cards/27386/bn_7116853867Alternatively, you can subscribe to a monthly service like NovelAI, buy credits as you go from Civitai, or rent time from an online GPU company like RunPod.https://novelai.net/https://civitai.com/https://www.runpod.io/No matter which way you go, Stable Diffusion is going to be an order of magnitude cheaper than hiring an artist or learning how to draw.
>>8363727Dunno if that anon means something else, but I've just seen it used as an alternative spelling for the term.
What genre would you call it when the girlfriend/wife dresses like a slut in public to get ogled by other people I want more stories like that where the gf/wife dresses in a slutty outfit and gets cat called but she obviously likes it
How's the market for long form NTS novels doing right now?I've been writing on a(nother) fantasy NTS story for fun but I might upload it once I have enough to not worry about consistency.Did AI destroy the user created webnovel space?
>>8363752>a(nother)What did you already write?
>>8363753Doubt anyone remembers that."My Childhood Friend is the Hero's Bride"It started as forced NTR > NTS, so I only posted it in the NTR thread.Looking back the pacing was a mess but it was my first time writing so I'll forgive myself.
>>8363757>"My Childhood Friend is the Hero's Bride"DUDE I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR UPDATES FOR YEARS WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?
>>8363529>Thread full of bitching fag shit about why isn't it this, why isn't it that, etc etc etcfantastic work, anon. just had a play through, can't wait for more.>>8363752Go for it. I'm the anon that posted about the Miruko story at the top of the thread, and people seemed keen.Key thing is that everyone on here is going to have their own opinion about what should/should not go into the story, just write what you want to write and see where it lands.
>>8363761I've been lurking but I kinda burned myself out feeling I had to deliver a chapter each week.Which is why I'm currently just writing a new story for myself and uploading when it's ready.Never say never but I doubt I'll update hero's bride anytime soon.
>>8363565You don't need art at all, just write
>>8360839So when is the part with the classmate set in chronologically? Between the end of the winter break and them going to meet with Ukyo to make the arrangement permanent?
>>8363327>It's genuinely funny how once one AIslop game becomes popular tWhich one was popular enough to get dozens of copies?
>>8363840Netorase Phone caused a bunch of NTR/NTS games to pop up that use the phone message narrative style. My New Girlfriend caused a bunch of games with NTS/swinging to pop up that all use the same Melkor Mancin AI artstyle, off the top of my head.
>>8363094>. I have watched SO MANY GAMES be destroyed when their devs decided that they wanted to go back and remaster their old art,What games? Like summer time saga? They don't do it to remaster, they do it to milk their patreon paypiggies for another 3-4 years>game is almost complete>once it's completed a good chunk of patreon will leave>don't have many ideas for a new game>decide to announce that you are going to remaster old art instead>remove 80% of content>rerelease the same content but with AI for 4-5 more yearsEasy money, the summer time guy gets about 200k$ per month and will keep "remaking" his art until he dies
>>8363851There's no way it's actually 200k....>Check patreon, nearly 34k subsJesus fucking christ
I actually played a bunch of summertime saga because of the incredibly high-effort SPH mod. Not my proudest moment
>>8363321NTA but thoughts on pic related (ignore the background image it's a placeholder)There is a lot of empty space since the location menu is to the right but this is because some locations open their own window (like a shop), it also isn't an issue if there is indirect dialogue because a character portrait fills up the spaceI choose a dark background because that's the worst case scenario (it looks better with lighter backgrounds) but it might still look too dark desu, i think it will improve once i fill up the topbarAny feedback is appreciated because designing an UI in Unity makes me wanna kill myself, or rather kill the moron who decided that everything just randomly resizes for no reason unless you actually want it, then it doesn't work
>>8363966The color scheme is nice, there's a slight clash because some of the UI elements are transparent but others aren't and another because you have rounded corners elsewhere, but sharp corners at the top bar, but these are mostly just nitpicks.
>>8363771>I'm the anon that posted about the Miruko story at the top of the thread, and people seemed keen.Write faster damn it! I want my chocolate bunny NTS queen.
>>8363973I am! I'm coming off some very unproductive days of my sleeping pattern being fucked six ways from sunday but I've knocked another 2k words out today so far.Sucks because I really want to get this shit down, I've just not had the mental energy to write. Here's a Miruko gen in compensation.>ask really nicely when I drop the finished product and I might drop the Gdrive with the rest of them in
>>8364003NTA but I love this slutty bunny. Will there be any buttstuff?
>>8364019
>>8364019A little, but none with Miruko/MC so far. Might save that for when she's with her bull.
>>8364029>tripfailNew to this tripfag shit, i'll figure it out
>>8364029>A little, but none with Miruko/MC so farOh? There will be other girls?>Might save that for when she's with her bullThe girl giving one of her firsts (blowjob, rimjob, anal) to the bull is always super hot.
>>8364077>Oh? There will be other girls?sounds like spoiler territory, that.>The girl giving one of her firsts (blowjob, rimjob, anal) to the bull is always super hot.Miruko is very... experienced, shall we say, by the time the protagonist meets her. I sure hope her telling him stories about what she used to be like doesn't lead somewhere degenerate.
>>8364087>Miruko is very... experiencedAh yes, the kind of girls you like for their... personalities.
>>8363966I'd recommend more contrast between the two purples (probably make the dark one darker)Also recommend changing one or both fonts. There's not enough contrast between them. Making the "Bedroom" header bold and the lorem ipsum italic would be an easy change. (All caps would be an even easier change, but that can result in annoyances later if you have locations with acronyms or something like "McDonald's")
>>8364029>>8364030Just FYI if you fucked up and are using Olives as the trip password, you might want to change that now.
>>8364089tempting as it is to post spoilers, I really want to keep my cards close to my chest until I'm ready to drop the whole thing. Even the tags will reveal some stuff I don't want in the open yet, and I know one or two of them won't be to some people's taste on here, but I'll put them in the comment when I post the link so they don't have to waste their time on something they won't like>>8364097Oh, i changed it to something random. I'm just eating olives at the moment, and it was the first thing that came to my mind.
>>8364099>until I'm ready to drop the whole thingDo you have an estimate for when that will happen?
>>8364109If not before the new year, early january at the latest. Getting back into it now, nearly done a difficult bit. After this I've a few more situations planned to get through, then a big finale. Current word count is sitting at 137.5k, I'm thinking I'll be finished or close to it by 200k, which isn't far off if I knuckle down and get on with it. between 50 to 100k i was doing somewhere around 10 to 15k a day some days, if I was feeling particularly productive, but now I'm at the point where I've got to balance emotions and shit, so it's taking longer.
>>8364117>Current word count is sitting at 137.5k, I'm thinking I'll be finished or close to it by 200kFuck me that's a lot. Well godspeed anon, I wish you the best of luck.
>>8364119Going for the slowest of slow burns here, motherfucker.
>>8364122Where will you post once it's done?
>>8364124AO3 or Literortica, then link it in here. I'll hang about in the thread if anyone has any Q's or feedback, and the page should have a link to my twitter if someone wants to shoot me a question privately.
>>8364126Do you already have an account on AO3? I would subscribe right now to not miss it.
>>8364095WTF IS THAT LOLI NETORASE!?
>>8364136Yeah i've already got one, signed up when I thought i was going to release it in parts before I went into a haze and wrote like 50k in a week.
>>8364151NTA but do you mind sharing?
>>8364153The account? No point, nothing posted there yet
>>8363437Alright, got around to checking it out. It seems solid so far. I saw some people complaining that that the build-up was too short and it escalated too quickly, but I think it's fine since the game starts with the premise that the MC is planning to confess his fetish. Maybe Kat could take a little longer to process the MC's confession before jumping into teasing him about it, and maybe the MC could be more evasive about telling Kat's friends about his fetish. But ultimately those are nitpicks that don't really matter.
>>8363437I love prety much everything except the blacked tattoos on the friend. They look so bad and it's just an instant turn off for me. Like, I don't mind her being a BBC addict, but just, those tacky tattoos are just tasteless. Same for the bleached girl but in her case it's less violent.
>>8364095that ugly bastard needs to give her a deep sloppy kiss while she maintains eye contact with the viewer (me)
>>8364214Based cunnychad.
>>8364204I plan to have an option for the tattoos/piercings etc to be optional for Kat but if people would like it, I could make that optional for the other girls as well.Not hard to do, I have .psds intact and the tattoos are separate layers, pic related for an exampleKiana herself is not going to have tattoos, canonically her hoodie is something her boyfriend bought her and she thinks it's a brand name>>8364182thanks, at some point I might revisit this initial intro portion to add some more fluff but I didn't want to waste too much time building up to the confession. Next update Kat is going to say she's still apprehensive about it so as to work from there
>>8364284Based AnonI really enjoyed it, the imagination scenes were hot as fuck.Also the catalytic converter bit made be laugh.
>>8364284Yeah exactly, in my opinion it's much better. QoS jewellery (choker, earring) or a small tattos would work fine too if she has to signal her love for blacks.
>>8364292QoS trinkets is the way
>>8364284>>8364292I also think the number of tattoos she has is excessive. I don't think they should be removed entirely, but you may want to consider toning them down.
>>8364299>>8364292Well I might have to just do either everything (tattoos and accessories) or nothing because too many flags gets a bit excessive. But if most people are fine with more of a toned down option that's fine too
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>>8363727 NeToRaSe = NTRSI'm joking about it because when I posted my list in a past thread some autist kept bugging me about how NTRS actually means hard NTR when it clearly does not. This website has a lot of people prone to anger issues.>>8363771Thank you! Even though I like the discussions you can just check out the list and ignore what people say in the forums. I try my best to provide accurate descriptions of what each game has in terms of actual content.>>8363724Thank you! I was active in the Zetsu thread for quite some time but I decided to make my own just because the older one wasn't being updated anymore. I just want to share something nice with my fellow perverts!>>8363744My guess would be some form of candaulism. Personally I like it too but it truly is a very niche thing to have it's own specific name.
>>8364352I'd ignore that guy in the f95 thread bitching about AI art. I had a skin through his profile and it's 50+ pages of comments from him bitching about games not meeting his exceedingly high expectations, despite never making one of his own.
>>8363529Beat Angel Escalayer R has NTS?
>>8364352Everyone says NTS cause NTRS sound like NTR, and from what I've seen everyone on other sites use NTS too.
Can all these fucking blogposters get the fuck out? Like holy shit this is hentai image board, either post content or gtfo to discord or plebbit to discuss your cuckology.>inbe4 but limited/recycled contentDoesn't matter, post what you can and if there's nothing thats fine, a slow high quality thread is better than a fast one without content. FUCK these AI shilling faggots and Hinako essaying subhumans.
>>8364387No, you will read my essays on why the next highly praised NTS work that comes out is actually hardcore NTR and therefore dogshit, and you will like it.
>>8364387oh gee thank you thread policeman I'm so glad we have a random faggot like you to insert his unwelcome opinion into things!
>>8364387>stop discussing fetish content in this fetish content discussion thread
>>8364390>Well of course she told her husband she hated him and went behind his back to get pregnant and divorce him! If you read between the lines it's still NTS!!!!!!!1111
>>8364393post 5 works discussed here where that scenario happens
>>8364390>>8364391>>8364392Fucking retards it's even in the OP that you have to post images. You niggers need to write your trash essays on plebbit or f95, not on an IMAGE board. Neck yourselves.
>>8364399Fuck off
>>8364402Kill yourself retarded subhuman.
>>8364399So why haven't you?
>>8364399>Bitches about people not posting images>Doesn't post images
>>8364404>>8364406From the 31 images posted, I've posted 6. The rest of this board is filled with subhuman essaying from actual irl cucks who think they've found their safe space here. FUCK OFF to f95 or plebbit, subhumans
>>8360839>>8361256What's the name of it?
>>8364366This is why I made the list! I didn't get to play all the routes(I re-installed windows) but there is one particular occasion where Escalayer says she finds an enemy very cute and she will ask for the MC's permission to "stay with him". You will know what I'm talking about when you reach this point. Also in Escalayer there are scenes in the endings in particular where she gets very promiscuous. The game is doesn't have huge NTS scenes and it's not even a pure sharing game but still, it has those scenes for those who want it. Apparently Beat Blades Haruka which has more or less the same gameplay loop also has sharing but I still didn't play that game enough to find out where so I'm a little afraid of adding it to the list just to remove it later.>>8364368Yes, I understand that but to autistically call it hard NTR is idiotic. You do know what it means right? If someone said your name with an accent you would still understand what the person means right? This is just a nitpick but hyper-focused people like to complain about every single thing.
>>8364284In my opinion, I like the blacked tattoos, I just find it really off-putting when they're PLASTERED all over her. A small spade peeking out from under her bra or panties would be a lot hotter.
>>8364495The vine wraps are what put me off, personally. A cute spade tat peeking out the panty line, or on an ass cheek is perfect.
>>8363968>>8364095> some of the UI elements are transparent but others aren't Yeah I pretty much took a prefab from an Asset pack and scrambled it trying to make it dynamic so the settings for some of the elements don't make much sense> rounded corners elsewhere, but sharp corners at the top bar,Yeah the top bar is being worked so it's still using the Unity default, it does kinda look weird if it's also rounded though, i think it might be better if it doesn't cover the entire top of the screen but ends early, I'm gonna have to tinker a bit with it>d recommend more contrast between the two purples (probably make the dark one darker)Good advice, looks much better, funny enough they actually were the same color, the darker one just had a shadow placed underneath itStill not perfect but i think the problem is the menu doesn't have an outline and i haven't decided how I'm going to handle that (hard coding or trough materials) so it will have to do for now>Also recommend changing one or both fonts. I haven't settled on what fonts to use yet but i will edit the text elements with the ones i haveAlthough the ones i have are kinda ugly Thanks for the feedback, I'm writing it all down, i'm kinda sick of doing UI stuff after spending +10 hours today trying to get Unity to actually refresh the layoutBoth the open world system and the quest system supporting it are fully functioning now so i can post a demo build next week if you're interested in giving some more feedback, it's really helpful desu
>>8364581>kill stevefuck steve all my homies hate steve
>>8364583This. Steve got what he fucking deserved.
>>8364583>>8364584Oh yeah maybe i should explain wtf Steve has to do with NetoraseEverything is dynamic so when the player moves to a new Location it's created based on both the location and the active questsThe stevequest spawn the "Kill Steve" and "Talk to Steve" buttons, when you kill Steve it changes the stevestate's "alive" flag which in turn updates all quests that need Steve to be alive and switches those quests over to a new route in turn triggering the location to rebuildAll this just so i can deliver your very specific and narrow definition of NTS kek
>>8364590NTS just stands for "No To Steve", gotcha.
>>8363423>Out for a day>Already eight pages of comments>$300 on PatreonIs it really that easy?
>>8364635Im only at about... $220 now?admittedly when I released it I also started a 30% off promotionI am guessing people are starved for NTS content honestly, F95zone still does not have an NTS tag
>>8364581Fuck off and go to /g/
Can anyone help me find this NTS Doujin where the GF fucks her Boss and theres this famous shot where the boss asks for Anal?
>>8364284>I plan to have an option for the tattoos/piercings etc to be optional for Kat but if people would like it, I could make that optional for the other girls as well.I agree with the others. The tattoos are nice in theory, but currently they look straight out of a blacked edit thread where a bunch of discord trannies go way overboard and it's just overkill. Maybe tone them down a little, replace some with clothing/apparel, etc.
>>8365275>next update is going to be a continuation of the IF scene where she never found out about Haru and stayed with senpaiYawn.Senpai is the worst part of this story.
>>8363423don't bother with the macOS version, it doesn't work anyway 99% of the time, as soon as you click on it the OS will just block it and move it to trash
>>8363437that's a very quick start, I hope you have enough fresh ideas to keep the story going. like the other anon said there is zero buildup and the girl agrees to cucking him so fast that it seems she's been already cheating on him before and she just needed his approval. so far it's looking good.
Does anyone have any info on twine game FaNTStic FaNTSy? I have really really enjoyed its writing but it seems like it hadn't had any updates apart from the initial one.
>>8365602I just didn't want to be wasting too much time to setting things up. rest assured shes still apprehensive and needs some convincing and easing into it first
>>8365660In case of nts the buildup is way too important to rush or skip. And you have definitely rushed both the setup of the relationship and the confession. The fmc moves on to teasing the mc about his fetish way too quickly, I would have liked her to have been more uncertain about it in the beginning. I also didn't like that her friends were listening in on the confession, it is kinda cringe.Otherwise, I liked the beginning of the game. The fmc is cute, the teasing is noice.
NTS is about corrupting a cute, innocent wife into a smug, loyal hotwife. You can't just skip the corruption arc, that's one of the hottest parts. Her showing a lot of reluctance in the beginning and then slowly loosing up and enjoying it together with her husband too
>>8365275>>8365565wtf, where's the jin creampie
>>8365751think it's going to be the new years updatefeels like it's all coming to an end
>>8365741100%. NTS stories basically climax on the first sex scene with the bull. The build up to that moment where they cross the line is what it's all about. Not that you can't do exciting stuff after, but it's hard to compete with a really well built up first sex.I didn't try the catgirl VN cause it seems to have a bunch of tropes I don't like and it uses AI art, but didn't the dev say it's like 120k words already? That is freaking long. If that time is not spent in the setup, then what the heck is it spent on?
>>8363050>her sex tape is nasty to me and so is the way she is ignored him all day, just meWelcome winner of "guy who fast-forwarded through the conference texting scene" award, that entire bit was pretty explicitly put there to show that the MC thought it would ne hot if she fucked her coworker after already being shown to be okay with it before she left their house to go to it
>>8365786You might be getting me and Nyanon dev mixed up, I'm writing a Miruko NTS fic that's gone over 120k. (just under 140k now)
>>8365786>but didn't the dev say it's like 120k words already?I think you're confusing him with different anon writing a story
I guess I mixed you two up. Forget I said that.
>>8365741Corruption arc isn't being skipped, it's just initial confession happened quickly. She will ease into it properly with time
>>8365275She's so fucking hot
>>8365832When the order of events go>sex with the husband while stirring up his NTS fantasy via the friend's sex tapeand the immediate follow-up being teased is>I'm gonna take a BBC with raw creampieI don't think that's "easing into the corruption with time"
>>8366131>I'm gonna take a BBC with raw creampiewas a fantasy of the MC in the momentThe scene is she's teasing him and hasn't actually done anything yet
>>8366158Except her friends were basically introduced to be part of the discussion from Day 1 and they are presumably roping in their fuckbuddies without any input from either the MC or the girl. The immediate first bull they'll encounter for the next update according to the story is the one the blacked girl is fucking
>>8366164>The immediate first bull they'll encounter for the next update according to the story is the one the blacked girl is fuckingwhen did I ever say that would happenI suppose if you need convincing you'll have to just play the next update I'm cooking and see, there will be a while before the first sex and it's probably not going to be him
>>8366166>>8366164I do get where people are coming from, I could have made her a bit more initially apprehensiveMy idea really is this teasing was spur of the moment, and the morning after in the next update she will be more "Did I hurt you? I'm not sure about this, we need to prepare before we actually do anything"
Just let this dev cook guys. I also don't care about cheating sex anyways so if the focus is gonna be on corruption and teasing it's still gonna be a banger
>>8366178Holding that stuff off for an update is like the of asking if you're OK a month after she did the thing that hurt you. It's already a scar. Have to include that to finish an update strong and keep each chapter semi separate of each other cuz ppl are gonna require more to compensate for the wait, and it's gonna be disproportionate. Problem with nts is it's too easy to snowball into a bad place and takes way more effort to get out of the bad place than it would have taken to just do preventative medicine. Part of why so many ppl complaining all the time more reclaim and aftercare cuz this is the circumstance it's better to ask permission than forgiveness and to not be suspenseful. Vulgar reverie is already trolling with what they've done with the wife so u can see how good something can be and how fast it can fall off a cliff.
>>8365789He was written to be ok with it. I wasn't cuz i was never given a choice over anything since the moment the vacation started and ammie personality took a turn. Don't worry I read it all, I just don't agree with the direction.
>>8365660The tease is 99.9% of what makes it sexy. You could literally keep it pillow talk only and she doesn't have sex without anyone else outside of her roleplaying while jerking you off and whispering in your ear and it would be perfect. Setting her up to just be like ok I was thinking about fucking other dudes anyway and then having her jump right in and prefer it is a major fail.
>>8366374Oh I appreciate the criticism honestly, but ultimately I'm not gonna change my vision for the game just because some vocal people are not satisfied it doesn't 100% meet their particulars.I do agree perhaps the first release might have seemed a bit rushed but I still don't see how people are getting the impression that it felt like she was already thinking about it before it was brought up or some schizo shit like she seems predisposed to cheat? I dunno bro, can't please everyone.I guess the last thing I will say is if people are unsatisfied with it right now, come back and play a future update to see if your opinion has changed.
>>8367327>some schizo shit like she seems predisposed to cheatSchizos gonna schiz. For some reason there's always someone imagining NTR where there's none..
>>8365628where can I play it? nothing shows up when I look it up
>>8367341we should be united in our love for watching our women have sex with other men...
Thoughts on pic related? I don't play VN's so it's actually hard for me to figure out how to pose a character for dialogue portraitsAlso does it still have the "slop" look? I can improve the process but i'd rather work on other stuff for a bitIgnore the clothing i didn't change those
>>8367489Since this is a porn board have this one too
>>8367489Nothing immediately stood out to me, but I can definitely find some stuff to nitpick.
>>8367490>>8367489looks like terasuI wonder if he'd get buttmad if he saw people making nts slop with his style
>>8367494So good enough for now?Oh and do you like her design? She is supposed to be somewhere between Marin from bisque doll and Ayase from Oreimo, both in terms of design and personality>>8367503Haha yeah crazy how it looks so similar to his style, no idea how that happened desu>I wonder if he'd get buttmad if he saw people making nts slop with his styleAren't there already like 3-4 artists that straight up copy his art style lol?
>>8367507I personally like her design.
>>8367489>>8367490Looks good, her right hand on the first picture might need some work tho. Other than that, shorter skirt maybe?
>>8367489She looks like Marin. I love getting cucked by my favourite waifu. Good design.
>>8367489>>8367490Actually looks pretty good for an AI slop, and like the other anon said, it looks like terasu which is a plus for me. Are you trying to make a VN like the nyatorase guy?
>>8362665gay
>>8367489Looks good enough, less sloppy than the recent AI NTS games. You might want to manually fix the lines on the skirt though.
>>8367866Autism...
>>8367936Look man, do you want to make sure it doesn't have the typical AI tells or not?
>>8367669>making out with a girl is gayAnon?
Looking forward to some Gomu and Terasu Kyouko
>>8368034Found the nigga who would call himself straight after kissing the girl with a cock between their lips
>>8367997>>8368001dude looks like a 3rd degree burn victim
>>8368085He looks more like an incredibly dark hispanic to me. Possibly the whitest man in Argentina.
Really disappointed after reading through Cucked by an incel. It was touted here as this incredible netorase story. But it turned out to be netorare with extra steps - the fmc does whatever she wants and barely takes into consideration mc's wishes and feelings, mc is a pathetic spineless worm, the incel is better than him at sex and the fmc gets wet at the very thought of him, mc's friends know about the affair and are (rightly) disgusted by it. It was barely bearable, but then the fmc broke up with mc and started dating the incel. Sure, you could say it is all part of the play - but is it really? When mc asks her to stop this she evades and wants to continue this regardless of his wishes. The writing is good, but it is not nts in any form or shape and is written for maso cucks. Should have known from the name of the story that it is not for me.
>>8368169that's sorta how I ended up feeling as well, but I guess it's different strokes for different folks, literally in this case. Went a bit far for my tastes
>>8368169>but then the fmc broke up with mc and started dating the incel.j...just read between the lines!
>>8367514>her right hand on the first picture might need some work thoBoth hands need some work, it's fixed problem though because hands are easy to draw, i was just being lazy since it's easier to redraw them at the end than in between every iteration>>8367646> it looks like terasu which is a plus for meHis art does something to me i can't describe, I've only been using his artstyle because it works really well with AI for some reason, oh and i draw the eyes in the same exact style he does which exacerbates it>Are you trying to make a VN like the nyatorase guy?The demo is pretty much done, I'll post it this week, for the full 0.1 release or whatever my deadline is the next Tsubame so early January>>8367866Normally i draw a base image and use AI afterwards, but because i wanted to figure out how to do poses i was lazy and let the AI handle some stuff like clothing, won't be an issue in the actual gameI really hate sloppa so I'm going to make sure all the mistakes are fixed for any final version, kinda sad how such a cool tool has such a bad reputation to the point I'm ashamed of admitting i use itNext I'm going to try and animate the latest Tsubame update as a sort of case-study on animation and then I'll drop the VN demo, probably Friday
>>8368306>Next I'm going to try and animate the latest Tsubame update as a sort of case-study on animation and then I'll drop the VN demo, probably FridayWhat are you going to use for animation, live2D?
>>8368306Another NTS game. We are eating good in December/January.
Will Muse ever be updated again??? GOD PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!!!
>>8368306>latest tsubame updatethat was so long ago man...when will terasu continue this shit, tired of his autistic schizo shit where he starts 20 different projects at once
>>8368708>when will terasu continue this shitMon, Dec 30 2024
>>8368709so it wasn't a spade necklace, lmaoi still doubt it though, she will go blacked in my opinion
>>8368709source? I don't see this on his fanbox
>>8368722It's from the Comiket app, circles something
>>8368723is it gonna be a full chapter or more bonus content stuff like the last few
>>8368721I remember people in here sperging about that
>>8368721wasn't it leaked that one of terasu's ideas is the bull introduces a black friend to tsubame for a threesome and she starts preferring him instead? lmao
>>8368738yup, the good ol' classic blacked discussion>>8368743that sounds hot, but idk anon. i'm not too sure on what terasu might be planning but let's hope it's not NTS to NTR (like laliberte's style)
>>8368738They always sperg about black bulls though. Probably hits too close to home lol
>>8368743>wasn't it leakedOne anon claiming to be a "friend" of Terasu...Only reason it got any traction was because it did sound like the kind of thing Terasu would write (not the black bull part but the way the bull get's cucked by another one and the ending which was 100% the way Terasu likes to end his stories)
>>8368743I do like the idea of expanding the seed planted with the bull trying to confess to her for real and then getting rejected only for twintails to fall in love completely with another bull, preferably a BBC bull or even the fabled crossover with nigger-kun from hiroki. Can you imagine if the original bull ends up so mindbroken they turn him into a sissy slave and goes for a bisexual threesome with twintails? That'd make it the most undefeated NTS ever, the Tachibana-san of NTS even.
>>8368839>if it turned into gay NTR it would be the most bestest NTS evar!!!11
>>8368839What you wrote (minus the first bull becoming a slave and the bisexual threesome) is essentially what happens to Hiroto in Marina 2.
>>8368721I don't mind black bulls but I do think they're way too overplayed, especially in Terasu's works. I hope he opts for a male gyaru or her sleazy boss that she mentioned, if she is to have a 2nd bull
>>8368839The sooner Hitler rises up from the ashes and gasses faggots like you, the better.
>>8368709Google translator says it's a Netorare book...
>>8369008>Retard doesn't know netorare and netorase get translated the same since there isn't an English word that separates the two
>>8369008>>8369013"寝取らせ" and "寝取られ" are the same word in English, but the image uses the kanji for the NTR one (せ). This doesn't mean anything, really, as both words are used to describe cuckolding. Although if I have to point something out, 寝取られ is used more for NTS.
>>8369038Absolutely wrong, it's the total opposite. The Kanji in the image uses the NTS letter (NTS = 寝取らせ).
>>8369038>せthat's se, れ is re, dekinai-kun
>>8369042>>8369043Fucking hell I mixed up both, thanks anons
>>8368755It's because blackedfags are the most obnoxious retards imaginable and always go way overboard and try to infiltrate unrelated things with their fetish. Then when they get backlash they pretend that everyone is just mean to them for no reason.
So what's the general consensus of this VN? Anyone read it yet?
>>8369178It seemed pretty awful so I didn't play much. Can't even tell you the plot.
>>8369196Nah he's telling the truth. But mods delete it all cuz its like 30+ post of drama every time. I'm not against the fetish but u guys gotta chill with the attitude or don't be surprised when you get it given back. You want courtesy you start with it yourself. If you escalate in response to this it's a confirmation of disingenuous intent so keep that in mind.
>>8369981>keeps lyingThe archives prove you wrong. Nobody is spamming it. It's always that one racist cuckfag getting a mental breakdown when someone posts a black bull, without any qos stuff even. Learn to accept that you're a raging faggot for white cocks and that you're not into NTS.
>>8363423>PanpapanKino...
https://hentaifox.com/gallery/136054/
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>>8370025
>>8370022>>8370025>>8370027the in-denial-cuck is going to complain about this.
>>8370037why is he in egypt
>>8365275I want to see her fuck more fat losers instead of jin for the nth time. nt00 needs to stop senpai baiting, do it or be done with him
>>8369985>obsessive freak accuses everyone of being gay when his black dick fetish is unwelcome
>>8369013not exactly. the english word that can be used instead would be more along the lines of swinging or hot wifing specifically, but it's a lot of work to try and change the meaning of a word that so many people already have engrained in their mentality. but it would be great if it was factually stated. not just assumed. in the culture of most places having your spouse cheat on you would be netorare. but you're suggesting she do it in front of you or at your will is netorase, which is swinging, which a lot of cultures do not have or would never consider. because having your loved one get intimate with someone else is considered an indicator that they no longer want you or have fallen out of love with you or something along those lines. That is why we have so much NTS to NTR doujin. instead of just straight swinging or hot wifing doujins or hentai. the problem lies in the mentality. in japan and in a lot of places in the would, willingly asking your better half to indulge in pleasure is considered playing with fire, because they do not know how to do it properly. its not just women, its men as well. but men are less likely to develop feelings for someone after a one night fling like women tend to do... so to end my rant, no they are not the same, yes they are translated the same because a programmer somewhere does not want to waste the time to properly translate it in their google translate app or what ever machine translating app they make, and the context for why we have so much nts to ntr. instead of just plain swinging or hot wifing material. hope this helps someone somewhere figure out what he is looking for. it took a lot of time and research to learn about these topics and why they were translated this way instead of properly. but the bottom line is that it was just easier because they saw it as the same even though it is very diffrent. like getting lost in translateion, or lazyness. you pick your poison.
>>8368169I agree with a lot of this but I am interested in where the story goes from here. Introducing the fact that her roommates wants to be cucked as well could be good content.
>>8370151>cuck obsessed with white cocks fails at reading comprehension and conveniently changed racist cuckfag (You) to everyone Neck yourself
>>8370180Nobody asked for a blogpost, esl. The only proper way to translate NTS would be consented cuckolding.
>>8370037Gotta throw in the aftercare it's not complicated. It's like meat without potatoes and a drink.
>>8370445>inbe4 aftercare?? Stick to vanilla!!!!
>>8369985I even said if you respond to it with an escalation it will be proving disingenuous intent because I was being more than fair. All you had to do was control your tongue at least for posterity. It pretty much tells everyone everything they need to know about your character.
>>8370450All you had to do was provide evidence, which you couldn't do. The archives dont lie. Your defeat is accepted, now back to sucking white dick, disingenuous liar.
>>8370415try that again in english
>>8370487Your defeat is accepted
>>8370027I have question for this, is it still considered NTS if the girl leave the cuck for sex against his wish. Sure its have reporting and aftercare but isnt the sex can only happen if its the cuck wish?
>>8370525No
>>8370525Yes if that's how their NTS dynamic works and their relationship is not strained from her doing it. See that heart after he says "don't leave me?" Implicit consent is a thing, contrary to what the spergs in this thread say. He knows full well this is how the play works for the two of them and enjoys it.
>>8370582>he says yes while headcanoning 99% which the other anon didn't even mention to prove his pointRetard. "Against his wish" is enough to make it NTR
>>8370525I mean NTS becoming NTR is a really common theme. I'd say it becomes NTR if the woman doesn't stop when the man doesn't want to continue the lifestyle anymore or does things without his knowledge and consent.So in this situation it might still be part of the play but if he asks her again (perhaps outside a lust fueled situation) and she refuses it has become NTR.
>>8370589>headcanoningI'm sorry you can't read, ESL.
>he's so mad about being wrong he has the resort to racism about a random race that most likely NTRd his mother Classic kek
>>8370582Fuck how can i miss the heart symbol. I made the assumption its against his will because i miss the heart, thanks anon
>signs divorce papers>heart symbol as she says goodbye>ITS STILL NTS AIIEEEEEEDelusional
>>8370180have sex
>>8370525In a vacuum it's basically the biggest possible red flag, but I can conceive of situations where I would I still consider it NTSIn scenarios like what you replied to, the guy's desires and their relationship are extremely poorly defined (not that I blame the artist, what do you expect from just 3 mostly-identical images)You see this a lot with NTS ero audio works, since those are basically the peak of self-insert-ness. How you feel about consent is basically how the male character feels about consent
>>8370454Can mods do something about this please? It's back.
>>8370582>Just read between the lines bro!
>>8371073Right? Everyone knows hearts in hentai text don't actually mean the person's enjoying it, and actually mean they are suffering and in considerable pain.
>>8371013>wahhhh wahhh I force NTR in NTS threads and now people are mean to me!!
>>8371166Pretty much this. I don't understand how such swine level of human can even exist. Like stay in your lane there's a separate thread for every genre.
can someonw tell me how aftercare should look in a nts scenario
>>8371178aftercare is the girl giving the cuck a handjob while using the bull's semen as lube
How do we feel about NTS where the bull is unaware that the husband knows what's going on and enjoys it?
>>8371178Just vanilla sex. It usually happens after cuckold reporting when the cuck becomes too jealous and has an urge to reclaim the wife. It can still be smug and full of teasing though.
>>8371193Im speaking for myself here. I don't want the bull to just be a glorified dildo, but i also don't give a shit if the couple is not totally honest with him.
>>8371178It varies, but it's generally it should involve both the cuck and girl reaffirming their affection for one another and confirming that the previous NTS session didn't go too far for either them.
>>8371193For me consent is paramount in NTS so the bull knowing what he's getting into is a "good to have" thing, but since the focus should be on the cuck and wife, I don't really see that as a deal breaker. That said, it's pretty rare but I do like when the bull is basically their wingman, even though picrel might be too comedic for some
>>8371312That work is one of the best NTS doujins ever. It misses some cuckold reporting but other than that 10/10.
>>8371342I agree, but I guess cuckold reporting is a bit redundant when he's right there making love with her at the same time in both extended sex scenes (not counting the 3-page toilet detour)
>>8371367That's true. I hope he makes a part 2 of this. I really love it when the cuck and wife are super in love with each other and enjoying every second of the cheating sex together. I'm not really into the despair type of NTS so this is perfect.
>>8370770While i can see your point the other anon i replied point make sense too. Its only 3 page, like >>8370860 anon said its hard to say wheter its his genuine choice or he got stockholm syndrome
>>8371377I like it the most when she's doing it more to get him off than because she likes fucking other guys. There's a few sexy pics with caps out there where the girl is shown her though bubble how she doesn't like the guys hands on her but her eyes are glued to the camera and she's hoping to make the show as good as possible, and she gets turned on thinking about how she's gonna tease him later while jerking him off to the vid, and then when she's actually doing it she's saying "look how much he turns me on, like you can't", but in reality the whole reason she's so turned on is cuz she's thinking about him and not getting off to the bull. I think what most nts are missing which yumi did at the start and now doesn't anymore is give the woman's inner dialogue. Like if she isn't being sweet on him overtly to focus on the role of being a cheating whore, at least let the reader into her inner thoughts so that those who can't "read between the lines" or who don't want to have to know where she stands. That way you can have same exact scene and same dialogue and no one gets upset except actual ntrfags cuz you can't get any more proof than literal mind reading.
>>8371312I didn't like this one. Boyfriend is an incel ultra cuck beta. 0 focus on him by the girlfriend.
>>8371270I'm Polar opposite where that is literally all he is. Anything more and I'd need the girl to over compensate for it.
>>8371481>0 focus on him by the girlfriend She gave him a lot of focus though. Just no action for his cock, which I agree with, was the only thing missing to make it a 10/10. Even a simple handjob while kissing him as she's getting dicked would have sufficed.>>8371482Based. Bulls should be living dildos. If they start interfering with the couple's personal lives it quickly deteroriates into NTR territory.
>>8371513>Bulls should be living dildosThis is honestly an insane standard to have when it comes to NTS. It's right up there with thinking "any decision made by the girl borders on NTR". If bulls are narratively supposed to be just flesh dildos then you're arguing that the kink of NTS is fueled purely by the wife fucking a dick that is not the husband's, which at that point if you want both the wife and the dick to just be mindless automatons fucking for the husband's pleasure you may as well have the NTS protag watch porn and self insert that the girl in the video is his wife.We always go back to the incompatibility between western viewers and eastern authors. The western audience of 4chan seem to only derive sexual arousal from the mechanical act of having your wife fuck someone else. Anything outside of that is "too far". For the authors of the hentai you consume, NTS has a greater focus on feelings of anxiety and insecurity and how that interacts with lust. You're posting in a taiwanese semiconductor manufacturing forum so more often than not we'll have NTS works that don't fit the western conventions of NTS. Unfortunately for you all, women being able to make their own decisions and acting like human beings is part of it. Why won't you apply the same standard to the bulls?
>>8371548Because this is a fantasy and a kink, most of the guys here aren't real cucks and we aren't interested in realism in our porn. We derive pleasure from our wives being loyal whores, our personal pornstars, who at the end of the day will still cuddle with us in bed, no matter how many cocks have ejaculated in her womb. I suggest going to r*ddit or other sites where you can discuss how you're a real cuck needing realistic NTS.
>>8371590>most of the guys herestop projecting your insecurity on the rest of usI like both kinds of NTS in the fictional sense
>>8371590>We derive pleasure from our wives being loyal whores, our personal pornstarsBut you're saying it like that definition is somehow only possible in fiction if the wife is some brainless doll who only gets aroused when the husband is aroused too and the only valid NTS arrangement should be initiated by the husband. It feels like you're the kind of anon who would say a scenario where the wife is away from the husband and she texts him "I feel horny today too bad you're not around" and asks him if she could get some from her supposed "living dildo" is considered NTR instead of NTS because in their minds, well she came up with the thought of wanting to fuck someone else that's already NTR.
>>8371548>If bulls are narratively supposed to be just flesh dildos then you're arguing that the kink of NTS is fueled purely by the wife fucking a dick that is not the husband's,Yep, that's exactly it. I mean, that's the impetus for the fetish 99% of the time, no? He gets off on the idea of her fucking a man that's not him. And it's about what that taboo act does to their monogamous dynamic, using it in a twisted form to improve it. The other dude is not part of your marriage. Just fuck my wife and get out. If you want a relationship with the bull then that's polygamy you're talking about.>But you're saying it like that definition is somehow only possible in fiction if the wife is some brainless doll who only gets aroused when the husband is aroused too and the only valid NTS arrangement should be initiated by the husbandI don't see the problem here. So if it's the other way around, they're away and he's horny, he should ask if he can sleep with other women? Of course not, he just beats one off. This is part of a relationship, you sometimes have long distance periods and you stay chaste during those times to preserve the monogamy. That's just called having a normal relationship.For weeks I've seen this term of the "brainless doll" being used. Why does the wife doing something to please her husband make her a brainless doll? She's taking a big leap of faith, trusting the husband that this will make him happy, grappling with what this means for their relationship. In the same way the husband wants to test her faith, she's also testing her devotion, trying to prove that she's able to do these things and be unaffected. That her love for hubby will not be won out by another dick. And if it's a situation that she feels goes too far, then she steps in and says enough. Brainless is him asking her to fuck someone and she just goes OK, and proceeds to fuck a platoon of guys and forgets about the relationship.
>>8371612I don't care about the minority (You) who like getting NTRd.
>>8371590>most of the guys hereHilarious
>>8371689Nah the wife isn't a brainless doll. Just the bull is. She can enjoy sex and tease her cuck. But if the bull is gonna start interfering in our private lives you bet your ass I'mma gundown his ass.
>>8371732It's true though? This is a hentai board, most people here only enjoy fictional, 2d NTS. It unfortunately also attracts irl mentally ill cucks like you but that's the price we gotta pay.
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>>8371723Unfathomably based. Someone had to say it.