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WHAT HAPPENED?!?! Edition

Previous Thread: >>8365060

>LOCAL UI
A1111: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui
Forge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge | Alternative version (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge
Comfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI

>LOCAL MODELS
Pony: https://civitai.com/models/404802 | https://civitai.com/models/288584 | https://civitai.com/models/257749
Illustrious: https://civitai.com/models/795765

>PAID
NovelAI: https://rentry.org/hdg-nai-v3
NAI API/prompting in A1111: https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api

>RESOURCES
Wiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples | https://openart.ai/workflows/templates
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070 | https://huggingface.co/2vXpSwA7/iroiro-lora
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://www.iopaint.com/install
Upscalers: https://openmodeldb.info
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
Illustrious-related: https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuff
Useful Nodes/Extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgnew/raw | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/u/udg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
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did janny go rogue?
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excuse me what the fuck
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Now that /hdg/ is finally dying, should we all move to /trash/?
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preemptive kill yourself
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何それ
>>8366386
kill yourself.
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>>8366386
Previous Thread Highlights: Nyone
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>every hdg prior to this purged
Based. Janny warned us. We wouldn't listen.
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troll thread
stop trying to split the threads
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uh?
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>>8366394
that happens from time to time: previous threads get archived well before they fall off the board.
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>>8365138
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nyo my highlights...
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>posted some of my best gens last thread
What the fuck, if the thread is nuked like that does that mean a new highlights isn't created? Can I just repost the images here again? It's such a waste if because of the jannies none of my images get considered and voted on to make it in, am I okay to just post them again?
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id rather have spam than another cathag garbage post
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>>8366401
Hmm.. nyo~
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>>8366396
>the light particles means it's a high quality image
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>>8366403
>denying sovl for the sole purpose of contrarianism
Impressive. Let's see Paul Allen's post.
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For the guy who asked in the previous thread.
https://files.catbox.moe/m9xor5.png
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>>8366406
thanks! is cyberfix better than just the base version?
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why do all noob vpred posts have same fried sketch aesthetic
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>>8366407
Dunno, I'm just trying it out, I didn't bother with the original.
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>>8366408
It's the new thread aesthetic, chuddy. Fuck off to /aco/ if you don't like it.
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>>8366408
Noob is new pony. (((ai-generated))) but in a different way.
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>>8366400
Your mistake was caring about highlights in the first place. It's just one guy's questionable opinion.
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>>8366408
Artist tags are generally not strong enough on noob and almost noone's using loras as there's almost no baking happening till final release.
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>>8366414
>questionable
it's intentional shitposting. They very intentionally try to "make it look" like they just have shit taste while putting in 'regular posters' as a token effort to ply their sensibilities and filling the rest with garbage to encourage low quality posts. That it stirs so much shit in text posts is just a bonus.
because why the fuck else would a perma-no-gen forcefully hijack a thread for months on end, going so far as to making threads before bumplimit(hey this is a /vg/ shitpost tactic) to make absolute sure they get to choose the OP and make the first post?
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>>8366415
but people on /hdg/ told me lora=bad???
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>>8366417
shitposters.
shitposters told you lora bad.
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We should go back to the one true tried and tested local model, ponyV6, until the noob team figures what the fuck they are doing, do you all agree?
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>>8366421
yea sure
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It's shitposting, anon, and you know it. I mean, I'd prefer noob artist tags to affect shading and linework stronger than they do now, but we probably won't get that, so resorting to loras is fine.
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>>8366423
>>8366417
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v4 can't come soon enough
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did new tech drop or nah
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>>8366419
I'm thinking based
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>>8366425
I can't wait for all the newfags posting their {{{cinematic,8k,highest resolution,very aesthetic}}} no artist tags 1girl, big bobs, vagene pics.
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>>8366415
>there's almost no baking happening till final release
I refuse to release Loras when it can't earn me Buzz. And I can't earn buzz because Noob's license prohibits monetization.
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So janny nuke the whole thread because he cant be arsed doing his job and cleaning it up?
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>>8366428
>no artist tags
you should start working on a new cope sis or it will be too late when v4 drops with all artist tags intact
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>>8366429
Noobs license is null and void tho?
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>>8366432
You can't use the model through the Civit's on-site generator, which means no "jslurs" can use it and give me a share of the fees.
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>>8366431
Relax, I'm just making fun of the average guy who picks up NAI for the first time and completely ignores them, I'm not implying that your comfort company will purge those to avoid future lawsuits.
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>>8366386
Previous Thread Highlights

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>>8366437
based based
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>>8366415
This. The promise of not having to use loras only worked out for characters. But using just one lora will fix both the artifacted backgrounds and the sketchy look. Shitmixes achieve the same, if you don't want to load a lora manually every time.
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>>8366434
average guy picking up nai for the first time seems to prompt black dick and nyantcha teebeeh
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>>8366415
>Artist tags are generally not strong enough
How much stronger do you need them to be?
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>>>8365076
Box you bastard!
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>>8366445
Those are just my observations from other anons' gens and mine so far.
Most of the time noob's artist tags' effect on linework/shading feels pretty weak and you can see noob's style shining through, increasing emphasis results in frying more often than not. The strongest effect is on faces.
Artist tags that worked well on NAI had very significant style changes that are imo mostly only achievable on noob with lora. That's fine though because the loras work better than they did on pony and you can do loras of whatever shit you like.
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what controlnet to use with noobvpred? i tried xinSIR promax but it kinda sucks compared to how well it worked on pony. do we need new vpred controlnets?
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>bro CFG++ samplers are so good, they fix the artifacting on noob!
>try them
>everything is fried and oversaturated even at 1 CFG
What am I missing
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>>8366455
You forgot to enable a dozen snake oil extension that fuck with CFG.
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>>8366415
>there's almost no baking happening till final release.
anyone with half a brain aren't training on the models because they're shit. the "final release" isn't going to get any better. after it's all said and done one or two models will shake out as the 'best'/most consistent and end up being the primary target.
>>8366452
>Artist tags that worked well on NAI had very significant style changes
is that why everyone posting nai had artist tags at, basically, 1.4+ weight?
the real reason to use (style) lora's is because it's a super cheap and easy way to force a consistent base style while also reigning in a lot of the rng anatomy/composition you'd be facing otherwise.
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>>8366444
box? is that a hilichurl
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>>8366458
No, it's your future wife's real boyfriend
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>>8366456
Then what's the point of using them over a regular sampler since I have to use snakeoils anyway?
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>>8366461
There is no point. All those new samplers and schedulers are pointless and any increase in quality is pure placebo.
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>>8366463
You're just not samplermaxxing hard enough
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>>8366398
wtf does this all mean?
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>>8366457
>is that why everyone posting nai had artist tags at, basically, 1.4+ weight?
No? Mixing crazy amounts of artist tags was much more common, and I barely ever saw anything more than {{{}}} which is actually less than 1.2 emphasis. And why would it matter anyway, most NAI users don't know anything about sd and just want to cum or sell their slop.
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>>8366465
Got a grid to back those words?
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>>8366463
Guess I got tricked by /hdg/, again.
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>>8366463
I've not managed to get anything decent out of vpred without either a lora or one of the CFG adjustments. It is not supposed to increase quality though, just limit oversaturation without the negative effects of low CFG, that is blurriness and ignoring tokens in long prompts.
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>>8366398
The problem with this is that you don't know what artist represent which features in the sense that artist names are entirely non-descriptive so you have no way of knowing these latent artist traits without having looked at them enough to remember how they look. Not to mention a lot of them are quite inconsistent in their styles so even if you do know an artist, his representation in the model's latent space might not align with yours.
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>>8366466
cum

>>8366476
in theory these traits can be measured
in reality use your eyeballs
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>>8366471
Just reduce Eta. I can go up to CFG 10 without getting the "solid blobs of color" effect with Eta set to 0. Yes this effectively turns the sampler into a deterministic one (Euler a @ 0 Eta is equal to Euler), but setting it to 0.3 or 0.5 retains a good amount of randomness and keeps things from frying. Set it to display in the main UI and tweak it whenever you need to.
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>>8366476
You. It's a lot of trial and error. But you slowly get a feel for which features tend to "stick" more and which ones will yield to another style when mixed. Even which ones the model is likely to have learned well from an artist's style.

Of course then a new base model comes around and everything's different again.
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>>8366481
>in theory these traits can be measured
That honestly sounds like a really solid theme for a paper. If NAI were actually competent and artists in AI models as a whole wasn't such a controversial topic, they could probably take it on.
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>>8366486
why not just use good ol' simple euler if it works right now and mess with other shit when everything settles
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>>8366494
Because I like 3M SDE more.
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>>8366496
why not 4m?
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>>8366445
Is it unrealistic to expect an accurate representation of an artist's style when I prompt for it? I might just be too used to loras.
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>>8366498
more Ms must be better right
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>>8366498
3 is a good number
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>>8366499
it's ai
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>>8366501
I don't see DPM++ 0.5M SDE anywhere
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>>8366394
>Janny warned us. We wouldn't listen.
Meds.
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>>8366499
yes apparently
if you try to prompt yaegashi_nan the senran kagura guy you just get a fried mess that looks nothing like his style even with the worthless year tags its so bad it almost looks intentional
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>>8366386
Previous Thread Highlights:

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>>8366515
post example
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>>8366520
based thank you!!
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I don't like 0.9's style, but damn can it do Ranni
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is noob epsilon 0.5 still the go-to?
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Are we ever going to get 0.9, or are we stuck with 0.9r?
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>>8366396
very nice for 1.5
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I have come to the conclusion that Euler A sucks
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>>8366523
I'm always surprised when AI manages to make her ghost face
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>>8366533
dont be, its giga fried with her hat, if you remove her hat she doesnt get the face anymore
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>>8366532
next you'll tell me that prodigy is a bad optimizer
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>>8366535
Hey, we learn as we go, for my test my best result were with dpm++ 2m, whats your sampler choice?
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>>8366520
>made it in again
LET'S FUCKING GO
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What's the best setting for facedetailer with SDXL? I'm using the eyes detection adetailer model, but it rarely detects the girl's eyes when she isn't facing straight-on
yolo8 seems better at detecting, but it's not as good as EDA for redrawing
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>>8366499
it requires vastly greater autism with quality tags and negatives to get 80~90% accurate imitations from seed to seed without a purpose-trained lora, unless your artist is already a gachaslut engagement farmer already flagged under masterpiece newest absurdres
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>>8366536
>whats your sampler choice?
Refined Exponential Solver, I'm a gentleman after all. Schedule? Custom tailored of course
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>>8366458
https://files.catbox.moe/uemkfo.png
Yeah got tired of ojii-sans wanted something different for Xmas.
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>>8366498
that technology is top secret and mossad will rendition you to oprah's stem cell farm
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>>8366546
So this is a rogue mossad agent? >>8366465
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>>8366535
AdamW is all you need. And so is Euler Ancestral.
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>>8366545
nice
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>>8366548
>adam
Your generalization, sir?
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>>8366543
I get almost identical gen with RES and DPM2, kinda funny how much sampler there is that do the same shit
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>>8366547
that's literally bibi
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>>8366534
Seems to work fine
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>>8366559
was just on the earlier version then
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>>8366550
The things I train generalize perfectly fine.
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>>8366534
Just add extra_faces if it doesn't show up.
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>>8366564
Proof?
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BREAK or no BREAK?
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>>8366564
But not as good as sdg or the newer adaptive optimizers
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>>8366559
I need to try if if works like a regular face with expression prompts. Or if it's like Rachnera's extra eyes, just there but not responding to "looking" tags.
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>>8366570
It's probably hard to do with just t2i, but should probably work with inpaint.
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CAME optimizer is all I need
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>>8366569
All they do is adjust LR so you don't have to fiddle with it again for every dataset.
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>>8366569
It's all snake oil.
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prodigy is very good but its really held back by not being able to adjust the TE. Theres a couple forks that allow something similar i think but i got no idea how that shit works
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>>8366587
Separately, you mean? Afaik if you don't use the flag for separate LRs it's adjusting both, to the same value.
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>>8366587
prodigy is garbage
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>>8366591
when using prodigy all lrs have to be set to 1 or it gives an error so you cant do unet: 1 and te: 0.5
at least not on the main fork
>>8366597
i will never use lion bro give it up
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hashire sori yo
kaze no you ni
tsukimihara wo
padoru padoru!
https://files.catbox.moe/m3da9f.png
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Is soap or shampoo better?
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>>8366601
I get padoru because of the meme pic, but the rest might as well be a special attack callout
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>>8366601
nero should have big tits and ass
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>>8366605
this
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https://videocardz.com/newz/zotac-confirms-geforce-rtx-5090-with-32gb-gddr7-memory-5080-and-5070-series-listed-as-well

32gb 5090 bros, we're so back
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>>8366605
This, even as a loli.
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>>8366602
I'm gonna make a new optimizer and name it shower gel. It'll just be Prodigy with the TE LR hardcoded to 0.5
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>>8366608
>32gb for next gen
it's so tiresome, I have two 3090s for 48gb which cost 800$ each, they want like 3k each for a small upgrade?
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>>8366608
those specs have been known for weeks
>>8366611
they want to fuck with people doing local ai thats the only answer that make senses, those specs are pathetic
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>>8366613
>they want to fuck with people doing local ai
Is kurumuz pulling the strings ?
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v4 is out
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>>8366614
more like amazon, they want you to pay for AWS server time to do any AI

If businesses worked out they could run many of these LLMs locally with a couple of chained GPUs it would cost amazon tons
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>>8366615
>It's real
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>>8366615
>>8366617
HOLY SHIIIIT
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>>8366617
Please prompt Reimu getting BLACKED in 16ch VAE
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>>8366615
>>8366617
I want anon's "kurumuz apology form" compiled on my desk within 15 minutes.
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>>8366615
leak when
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Bros, the lora, it's locking in
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>>8366615
>>8366617
its habbening
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>>8366601
I want a Nero Claudius for Christmas...
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It's all good localsisters, I've received confirmation that LAX has decided to include derpibooru for vpred 1.0!
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>>8366624
Post the samples bwo
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>>8366615
>>8366617
Should I just sell my GPU at this point?
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>>8366617
Holy shit!
https://files.catbox.moe/jy96no.png
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>>8366631
No way!
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Requesting NAI attempting to do Dehya, I like Dehya as an example because she has so many asymmetric detailed parts of the outfit
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>>8366631
HOW
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Why are naiggers having a meltie? Nobody even mentioned regional prompter
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How funny haha WAPOW
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>>8366631
V6 WHEN?????
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>>8366637
soon
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>>8366635
but it's only the localsissies who are melting down?
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>>8366639
This so much this
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uh oh
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holy shit literally everyone except me is mad

i just cant stop winning
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>>8366642
Prove that I'm mad without sounding mad?
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I came :)
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Just align your steps and you wont be mad
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why is it so... well.. you know...
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Who are y'all talking to?
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He's talking to me.
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blackedIllya.png
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>>8366398
interesting
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>>8366659
Ew, she's all melted and artifacted, NOT CUTE!
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>>8366659
>>8366663
Both are based as long as it's with a ugly fat ojisan.
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>>8366662
nice, very clean
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>>8366605
断る。
https://files.catbox.moe/dcvmcj.png
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>>8366476
that why u gotta experiment nigga
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How di I become a beloved Thread Pillar?
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>>8366608
>5090 32GB
>5080 16GB
Thanks jewvidia
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>>8366683
post high effort blacked
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>>8366683
die for a righteous cause and become a martyr
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>>8366684
5060 is 8gb, it's over for poorkeks
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>>8366664
So this one getting blacked?
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>>8366695
racist dogwhistle
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>>8366697
Push that whistle up your anus.
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>>8366608
>5070ti barely better than my 4070ti super
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>>8366705
I would like to thank nvidia for keeping the price of my 3090 high
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>>8366608
Still less than my A6000 lmao
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>>8366708
I bought my 3090 fe before ai got big and that was my best purchase since then
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>>8366720
May I get a box for this?
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>>8366515
nan is a good example of what happens when you don't associate things with years. his older work looks VERY little like his stuff from the last 5 years or so.
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>>8366727
don't associate them properly, that is, clearly illu's attempt didn't work
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>>8366697
bait.
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does natural language do anything on noob?
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>>8366740
Worse than on pony from what I've tried, but some basics still work. Colors, holding [object], backgrounds and locations, etc.
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>>8366740
what is that
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>>8366729
Cry more racist
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Do (you) just go txt2img -> latent upscale -> adetailer or do you take your time inpainting your gens before (if ever) upscaling?
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>>8366752
Reminds me of my first pony gens
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>>8366753
>t2i
>hires fix
>inpaint
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>>8366755
>vpred is finally approaching early pony levels
And they say local is dead
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OH SHIT OH SHIT!!!!
I just noticed th
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>>8366761
Stop noticing
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1girl, toddler, vaginal sex
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in negatives you go
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1girl,solo,fart,farting,from behind,hilda
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1anon, post, text, complain
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>>8366669
>>8366670
These came out nice.
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>>8366745
I can't tell if this is bait so I will respond seriously. It's the way you prompt on base SD1.5, SDXL, Flux and a bunch of online services; using full sentences instead of booru tags.

So "a young anime girl sitting on a chair in her bedroom wearing nothing but a pair of jeans". This one only works on Flux, because Pony/illustrious do not understand language to that degree. They would need a topless, breasts, nipples, naked or similar tag mentioned somewhere in the prompt.
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>>8366777
je ne parle pas anglais, je suis desolee
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>prompt for bendy straw as in the drinking straw that's L shaped on noobai
>characters suddenly starts to wear skintight yellow and black clothes
>weird.golden_karras_SGM_noise
>look up on danbooru for other things related to straw
>nothing unusual, bendy straw has plenty of entries (2.1k) so noob should know it.
>look up bendy on danbooru
>weird fandom cartoon style character with sort of the same look as in my gens, but only 37 entries >noob should have barely learned it, if anything at all with only 37 entries
>decide to look up on e621, as noob did train on the e621 dataset too
>look up the same character on e621
>356 entries
>almost 6 times less the amount than danbooru's bendy straw tag, yet it overpowers it completely.
I HATE CLIP I HATE E621
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>>8366779
tldr?
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>>8366738
aboba
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>>8366774
PAG, SWG, mahirocfg, raunet, especially the last is nice
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>>8366783
Lay off the oil sir.
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>>8366783
>mahirocfg
I tried this but things ended up looking a bit worse for me. Though tbqh I have no idea what I'm doing with this oil.
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>>8366780
>tldr?
tags are bleeding into eachother, a common error with models using CLIP as the textencoder. it's intreperting both "bendy straw" and the character Bendy at the same time.

Though after I wrote that greentext, it seems the problem is only largely present in the perp-cyberfix version of Noob 0.9R. The normal base version of Noob 0.9R doesn't have this issue to the same degree, unless you push emphasis really high. Noob team is still alright for me (for now).
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>>8366787
Does that mean cyberfix merges noob with something that has significant e621 bias
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>>8366779
>>8366787
SD3.5 medium will save us once the illustrious equivalent comes out sometime next year.
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>>8366791
Is that a fucking nose?!
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>>8366792
It doesn't seem to be fucking, no
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>>8366793
jeeej WAPOW
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are jannys archiving threads because they don't want to deal with the groidspam?
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>>8366796
I guess? There was literally nothing else going on, no melties, no cunny/little boys.
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>>8366794
top geg
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>>8366796
I can see it.
>get some 30+ reports for spam, all different posts and IPs
>assume whole thread is fucked
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>>8366784
I've been using PAG for forever, the last 3 I'm just testing
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>>8366662
cunnybox?
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>>8366800
It's sad this is probably the case
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>>8366796
does it really matter though, another one is made immediately after anyway
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>>8366796
that was a mod, jannies can only delete posts
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>>8366807
It's a pain having to collect my hard-earned (you)s from an external archive site.
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>>8366808
what's the difference? Are they all 0$ workers
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>>8366810
mods have actual authority
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>>8366812
can they make us an /ai/ board
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>>8366813
apparently not...
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What webui settings and extensions does /hdg/ like to use?
One setting I use is "For inpainting, save a masked composite". I find I spend less time inpainting when I can throw all the changes into an image editor as layers and just erase the parts that didn't come out well.
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>>8366796
The archiving used to happen at random: Sometimes it was done when three threads were up, other with as many as five but, recently, it has been done more quickly.
>>8366797
And the thread before that had no spam yet it was archived very quickly.
>>8366800
Probably this tho many an /hdg/ thread have been nuked out of the blue.
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>>8366813
It takes a congressional hearing before 4chan makes any sweeping changes.
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>>8366820
adetailer, wildcards, most other stuff is snake oil
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>>8366777
>nothing but a pair of jeans
I think with clip negative statements like this would be pretty much off the table
it even manages to fuck up "no panties" sometimes when it should be quite a strong tag
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>>8366820
>>8366783
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>>8366820
oh yeah and negpip which is a lifesaver
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>>8366826
I don't use it anymore, but I forgot adetailer was an extension and not part of the webui by default.
>>8366829
I tried negpip a couple times, but it always made my images come out worse overall. What do you use it on?
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>>8366832
most "must have" extensions get moved into forge or similar as default anyway
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>>8366832
i use it at the start to with whatever low quality tags are in the model, right after style tags. and i put the same tags in the negatives. using it on other things can have unintended consequences so i dont really do that very often, but telling it "no when i say no lowres images i actually mean it" has no discernible downside
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>>8366834
Interesting. I'll put that on my list of things to test.
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>>8366836
i put them at -1 btw
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New snakeoil, what do you think?
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>>8366840
i dunno what it does..
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>>8366832
nta, i use it in tandem with dark-skinned male, interracial in negatives when i really want the dick/male to be less swarthy/asiatic/dark
(dark-skinned male:-0.7) positive
dark-skinned male, interracial negative makes a pretty reliable white dude
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>>8366843
Racist cringe.
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>>8366840
that's a lot of snake oil im not familiar with
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>>8366843
based
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>>8366845
It oils your snake.
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>>8366843
Thanks. I wanted a better prompt to avoid pseudo-bestiality.
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>Latent Drift Correction
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>>8366850
ive also found though that negpips closer or above 1.0 power can back the model into a corner, creating pale dicks emerging from mattresses, erasing the male entirely leaving the female doing fried up pantomime, or shitting on the image fidelity because the model is trying its best to find a solution for an equation which is entirely absent of anything related to the negative tag
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>>8366852
>he doesn't know about latent drift
ngmi
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>>8366857
What style
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>>8366856
Testing your comment, negatives values also tend to mess the image entirely. Just putting interracial in the negatives helps a lot though.
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>>8366873
negpip is necessary to use negative values fyi, shit will immediately break otherwise
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>>8366857
post box right now
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>>8366857
me on the left
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>>8366840
>New snakeoil, what do you think?
Where can I find these? Nothing on the dev branches of reForge. I genuinely want to test these out.
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>>8366880
I am 99% sure that you aren't a pregnant, underage anime girl.
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>>8366857
me on the right
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I am a blurry underage pregnant anime girl. Problem?
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>>8366881
My snakeoil is too strong for you, coomer
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Everybody on /trash/ is having a blast with noob. Why are you guys always so unhappy?
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>>8366892
>Why are you guys always so unhappy?
>no gen
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>>8366881
dev2 i think, just got added this weekend
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>>8366895
catbox pls
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0.9R is overexposed
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is it reply to self time again
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>>8366860
kedama milk,dokiyuri,

tags:
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/8378599?q=agemmata+nyana_banyana
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>>8366899
because it has a bunch of cosplay photos lmoa
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>>8366899
All noob vpred bakes are fried and overexposed. It's shit.
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>>8366898
It's inpainted, base gen here
https://files.catbox.moe/ye8c6y.png
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>>8366900
Cope and seethe
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>>8366907
so true sister!
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>>8366907
which is why you use copious amount of snake oil and a shitmix like cyberfix or chadmix
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>retards genning porn when government is about to reveal contact with aliens
lol
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>>8366896
>dev2 i think, just got added this weekend
Thanks! I'll check it out.

>>8366891
>My snakeoil is too strong for yo-
I curse your future gens with the following:
>Backgrounds will always be too dark for your taste, and details will be lost to the darkness.
>Your inpaints will never provide good results from now on, only after the 5th inpaint will things go back to the way they were before the curse.
>Everyone except (You) will have success with enabling new snakeoil, using it to gen. If you ever enable any (even at very low values) you will get blotched, oversaturated broken images.
Never anger a magician.
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>>8366913
...anon
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>>8366909
What about dilate? Lmao
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>>8366913
Do the ayyylmaos have a hentai model with 16ch vae?
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>>8366908
thanks, what's the ogre model
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>>8366913
That's like the third time in the last 5 years that they have said that.
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>>8366913
are those aliens as cute?
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I miss pony so fucking much, bros.
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>>8366901
Thanks loli-chan.
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>>8366913
Are they catgirls? Will I finally get a government mandated catgirl?
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>mfw sliding the window caused the latent to drift
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>>8366486
good tip. Been using lower eta + higher cfg as well.

left is eulerA cfg6 eta1
right is is eulerA cfg10 eta0.3
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+100 buzz!
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>>8366930
freeU
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>>8366932
oh forgot image
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To whomever it concerns.
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>>8366900
When did we stop?
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>>8366930
fuck you nigga I'm fasting
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>>8366937
At least make her naked you stupid
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>>8366937
based
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>>8366928
only if you offer them alien catgirl gens
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>>8366936
I like left more but the pantyhose look nicer on the right
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its out
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>>8366943
This, also wanted to say that he's based but you did it first!
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>>8366936
Nice soft styling, catbox please?
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>>8366947
My cock? Yeah, it's been out for hours. Thanks for noticing I guess.
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>>8366951
nigga u stole my next post
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>>8366935
uuhh you can't pay using th-that sensei
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>Training on heavily photoshopped, most likely AI-treated cosplay photos
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea
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>>8366954
For a small payment of 1000 anlas I will delete it and we'll pretend that I never posted it.
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>>8366957
Me :)
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Is "a" a NAI shill?
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Who?
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>>8366957
Me because I want local sabotaged :)
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>>8366966
That's so skibidi of you bro.
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>>8366839
very hot, also curious what you prompted for those toys
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>>8366835
Tested your mix from the box you posted earlier and it work surpisingly well, I feel like illus lora dont kill the model creativity as much as pony did
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>>8366941
you getting hungry from cum glazed food?
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>>8366971
You don't?
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Maybe if we start posting loli and hyper here without complaining, this thread wouldn't be that bad
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>>8366971
reminds me of home
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>>8366976
Reminds me of dad...
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https://civitai.com/models/1043351/illustrious-auto-nude
How does this work? Is it an inpaint model? Adetailer model? Lora?
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>>8366975
What's hyper? Also nice try getting everyone banned haha!
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>>8366970
I stole it from another anon i like his better honestly. It's the same setup just a different henriiku lora and 0.5 eps model. I'm undecided on personal merge now since I realize freei was fucking my gens so I'm gonna go play around with some of the cyberfixes and 0.5 again. And yeah to your point though illu definitely feels like it can take more artist slop mixes then pony without devolving into a mess.
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>>8366419
Nyo~ bros are healing
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>>8366455
euler a ++, Beta, 35 steps (30 - 40 range), 1.5 - 1.7 cfg.
It's THAT simple.
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>>8366979
No ban if no one reports it
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>>8366988
>1.7 cfg++ on vpred
I can fucking smell the fry
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>>8366990
what if i'm someone
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>>8366990
Did you murder the anti-cunny schizos or something?
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>>8366992
Someone who?
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>>8366996
somebody, anyone really
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>>8366996
cathag
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>>8366995
I didn't murder anyone, why would I? No one really hates cunny itt
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>>8367000
>>8366992
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soon: catgirls in heat in desperate need
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I smell an anti-cunny schizo bait!
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>>8366988
>euler a
stopped reading there
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>>8367005
quickly post the pro-cunny schizo bait
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I do ddim with ddim uniform, it just work
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Oh yeah, it's him. Hide your cunnies.
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>>8366980
What is this expression trying to convey?
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>>8367016
zased but, why base res?
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>>8367011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OrS5Ym6vzU
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>>8367016
Regional prompting or just lucky gen? Also box
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>>8367019
It's NAI
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>>8367016
>h280h202
what did he mean by this?
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>>8367023
the date is wrong, 20240828 apparently.
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>>8367040
woaw
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>>8367040
nice, sexy lips
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>prompt re:zero, worried the : might cause trouble but the picture comes out fine
>try to add emphasis to the term, image gets entirely screwed
>escape the :, image still screwed
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>>8366398
how long till we get a fine tune or controlnet that lets me say lineart by x, face by y, coloring by z
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>>8367040
what model do you use for making sexy hentai
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>>8367054
style/subject/etc. disentanglement is technically already possible
it just so happens, myseriously, that every single time this problem is solved, the code/model is private or outdated (ie: Styledrop, SD1.5, etc.)
How long? as soon as someone decides, for some reason, that releasing their work into the world for free is a better idea than getting paid?
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>>8367062
>as soon as someone decides, for some reason, that releasing their work into the world for free is a better idea than getting paid?
this is why i dont mind china taking over
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>>8366935
sorabox?
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That's it?
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>>8367059
that's a lot of eyebrows
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is there a way to stop a character tag from influencing style?
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>>8366991
>he doesn't adjust his alpha and beta values
oh nyoooooooooooooooooooo~
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>>8367073
use more artist tags
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>>8367073
make a character lora with no style baked in
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>>8367076
sgm uniform is better than beta
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>>8367073
Try that [character:(character:0.6):0.5] thing some anon was doing last thread.
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>>8367082
What the heck is that?
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>>8367081
laplace literally predicts your gen before you even write the prompt
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>>8367081
Let me guess, your monitor doesn't let you see the artifacts, AYAKON-kun?
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>>8367084
You are telling the UI to reduce the strength of the character tag halfway through the generation.
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>>8367086
i got more artifacts w/ beta even tuning down beta parameter and doing last-step hacks, in spite of the final result being less sharp than sgm uniform
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>>8367089
Hmm.. nyo. Nyo, I don't believe yo~
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>>8367095
WHORE BLOODY BITCH
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I have made videos with Automatic1111+deforum
You can check it on stablemaige.com
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i havent gone back since he dropped this trvth nvke
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>>8367109
That retard is probably still training with adam
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Meltie.
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>>8367093
habeeb it
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>>8366937
These brats do not respect adults! Must be corrected...
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>>8366937
based gomennasaiposter
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how do you add this setting to the top?
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At least the blacked spam before had a penis making it /h/. This is just /e/ wtf? Isn't this against the rules?
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>>8367046
Why on god's green earth would you need (rem \(re:zero\):1.2)?
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>>8367160
What if he wants her to be remmer?
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>>8366528
box?
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>>8367153
rules only exist if someone is enforcing them
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why
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we can traingulate the spammer's time zone based on his hours of activity
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>>8367184
Wish we could triangulate the janny's timezone based on activity
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>>8367180
who knows, at least 3 different guys pledged to kill this thread with no survivor so it may be one of those schizo or just other retard bored
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>>8367189
Gonna be hard with 0 activity
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>>8367197
that's the joke
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imagine actually wasting half an hour of your day to manually upload and spam garbage in a thread you could just choose to not even acknowledge the existence of
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the rules say that
>This board is for people who wish to contribute.
he does nothing wrong, the spam is allowed
also the rules say that
>No loli or furry shit.
so as we can see the rules are enforced
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>>8367218
plus his gens are actually good.
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>>8367218
I don't think someone who wants to contribute will spam across four different IP's to bypass image upload timeouts
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>>8367218
Came here to say this.
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>>8367193
Considering the world she's in and her living conditions, she still looks way too good.

Gritty realism doesn't really work in anime styles, unless the artist tries really hard. And then people don't like it anyways, cause fans just want another fotm waifu. So you get frieren or goblin slayer's priestess looking perfect all the time despite bathing like once a week in a cold river, wearing the same set of clothes for the whole journey, getting bad sleep, only eating travel rations, etc.
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>>8367218
>The quality of posts is extremely important to this community
>no spamming or flooding of any kind
In case there was any doubt
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>>8367224
But why didn't they just reuse the model from the 3rd game? maybe add some extra polygons
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>>8367226
Oh there's a new thing. nvm I thought you were talking about her W3 look.
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>>8366720
great gen, can i get a catbox?
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Is mahiroCFG saturating the image for everyone else?
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>>8366869
can anyone get good kaedeko on 0.9?
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>>8367229
made it more but not over-saturated, toned down cfg further to compensate, im on 1.15 cfg++ now
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>>8367214
4chan generals have schizos torturing generals for years non-stop. this one isn't even that disruptive.
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>>8367232
box?
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>>8367160
I was testing the series tag for style effects, I was actually trying to lower the emphasis.
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>>8367233
I don't think any other boards jannies/mods let schizos actually spam 100 image posts for half an hour straight and just leave them there.
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>>8367221
>>8367222
>>8367225
please note that
>Janitors ARE NOT...
>Interpreters: Rules are to be enforced as written. Janitors enforce site policy only and personal motives should never influence deletion. They are objective, not subjective.
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>>8367234
https://files.catbox.moe/5cssmu.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/ipzu8h.png
ive got more cruft than usual going on right now
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>>8366720

catbox pls? nice style
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>>8367235
copyright tags are pointless just fyi.
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>>8367239
What is objectively spam?
What is, objectively, a loli?
What is objectively "extremely low quality"?
Could you describe what "Western" actually means? What belongs to /aco/ and what belongs to /h/?
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>>8367244
No spamming or flooding of any kind.
No loli or furry shit.
Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.
All images must be of Japanese/"Eastern" origin and style.
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>>8367243
Try adding dragon ball to your prompt and tell me it has no effect on style.
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>>8367244
I would argue that posting every 15 seconds repeatedly is spam, regardless of the posts' contents.
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>>8367229
>mahiroCFG
?
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>>8367246
https://cdn.donmai.us/sample/ae/92/__bulma_dragon_ball_and_1_more_drawn_by_ponko517__sample-ae92204b0a5e1035fab273b7234c2b9b.jpg

Look at this dragon ball image. I'm not saying it doesn't do anything, only that it doesn't do anything useful. There's too many artists all lumped together so that there's no useful/reproducible effects.

see attached image. can you guess which one is dragon ball and which one is league of legends? no?
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>>8367248
fresh placebo for comfy and reforge
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>>8367046
You should not escape the colon as long as it is not inside any brackets. Works for me like this:
>re:zero
>(re/:zero:0.1) - style effect is minimized
On Comfy though, it's possible each UI handles this edge case differently.
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I really liked these pictures posted like 9 days ago, did anyone ever get a box? The artstyle is enduring to me.
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>>8367251
>/
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>>8367252
Nice esl monkey.
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>>8367252
endearing
enduring means it lasts for a long time
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>>8367250
do I need to pull? I dont have that
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>>8367256
i think it's high performance lubricant
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>>8367255
sorry, i didn't get it wrong on porpoise
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>>8367255

See I thought this in my head and I thought I should change it but I meant enduring in the sense even ages after seeing it I still like it. But I guess it was a weird word choice despite wanting to mean just that.
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>>8367249
I don't know what to tell you, I've definitely seen clear effects from copyright tags. For example, world of warcraft for these eyebrows.
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>>8367249
depends on the franchise, code geass has a pretty significant effect on eyes and anatomy
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>>8367259
I think "timeless" works better in that context.
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How do you even make a lora out of just 5 images, 2 of them being rough sketches?
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>>8366881
reforge guy here, latent drift correction is probably an external extension, as alternate init noise and adaptive project guidance.

also forge couple 2.0.0 is only for normal forge (1.6.2 works on reforge), so i guess that anon is using normal forge and not reforge.
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>>8367263
if its a character, just use copier method, if it's a style, deep fry and make a synthetic dataset
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>>8367262

Yeah that is a better word, noted. Even if that word gives stronger connotations than I wanted to imply.

But if anyone has box, I'd like it. Find it very lewd.
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>>8367218
Stop talking about yourself in the third person
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>>8367263
Throw away the sketches, first off. Bake with three. It'll be insanely overfit, but you can weaker it for the early steps make some gens with it to use for a second generation lora that should be more versatile. Repeat until it's generally usable.
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>>8367252
its nai, he uses some mix of iwao178 and hairu and something else if I remember it right
i'm going to sleep but i might post one of catboxed gens tomorrow if I find it in my saved
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>>8367264
>snakeoil so sekrit not even pancho has it
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>>8367269

Thanks, I'll lurk again tomorrow and try to find it.
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>>8367249
left is dragon ball and right league of legends
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holy fucking shit
this 900s captcha cancer is still there
I thought they'd remove this after elections
didn't reset cookies for a while before this
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>>8367224
>Considering the world she's in and her living conditions, she still looks way too good.
This wasn't a problem in the series before, but is a problem now? And has no influence of the current environment, right? No trillion dollar companies trying to "force behaviors", no crazy ideology forcefully made into the dominant one inside the industry by illegal DEI hiring practices, no pressure/incentive from governments, journalists, academia, etc, towards this general direction, right? Everything is perfectly natural and organic.
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>>8367275
see >>8367227
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>>8366802
https://files.catbox.moe/xivk0l.png

Sorry, I dont find that exact version, the seed was the same in all, but I've been twirking with the breasts tags a lot and on top of that I was mixing versions with photoshop
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>>8367229
thats what its supposed to do i think
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>new NAI out
>no NAI gens
>new noob out
>only old noob gens
it all speaks for itself, really
>>8367274
yeah I've been mobile posting for weeks simply because I've been too lazy to wait out the 900s on my PC. end up posting less gens because its an extra step to have to send the pictures to my phone kek
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>>8367278
No worries, thanks
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>>8367253
Typo in the post, not in the prompt. Another try:
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>(re\:zero:0.1)
>(re\:zero:1.0)
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>>8367280
new nai was a shitpost no?
new noob is for realistic cosplay ens i.e. not anime
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>>8367283
also why the fuck is vpred output so freaky
Looks like cfg++ breaks down if the prompt is too short
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>>8367285
because they trained the model wrong.
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>>8367272
Correct but that's the bulma overlap giving it away by taking away her headpiece.
Here we have Code Geass, Genshin impact, One Piece, and World of Warcraft. Any bets? I even removed all artist tags so the copyright tag could really shine.
The reality is theres hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of artists under each copyright tag.
>>8367260
>>8367261
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>>8367286
On purpose as a joke?
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>>8367287
ill bet 50 buzz 2nd from left is code geass
the rest idk
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>>8367275
based conspiracy chud
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https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1hfg3t2/complete_tutorial_how_to_train_an_animestyle_lora/
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>>8367287
genshin, code geass,world of warcraft, one piece
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>>8367291
lol
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>>8367285
everything points to them baking the model wrong, vpred should not be this fucked to use requiring 100 snake oils to not fucking explode
and eps now feels like shit to use too because really can't unsee the dullness unless you only prompt (simple background:1.6)
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>>8367288
no they are just stupid
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>>8367294
skill issue about eps
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>>8367294
i think the snake oils are improvements for inference in general, not just vpred
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>>8367293
luleo
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>>8367297
im gonna shoot myself if I have to use 10 different snake oil to have a normal gen
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>>8367299
you check a box or connect a node and mostly forget about it, ur a faget
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>>8367299
Just wait until you hear how software development is done.
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>>8366601
https://files.catbox.moe/yeid5j.png
also decided to clean/edit those first two a little more and change the expression on the second version
https://files.catbox.moe/khyi5l.png
https://files.catbox.moe/7kr21z.png
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>>8367299
even with snake oils vpred gens are fucked up, they all seem to have some sort of withered photo aesthetic to them
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>>8367287
All I'm saying that series tags can have noticeable impact. That they don't in all cases is irrelevant.
https://files.catbox.moe/asq9l0.jpg
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>>8367294
EasyFluff did require CFG rescale. But you enabled it once and that was it, never had to touch it again.
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>bake lora with v-param, ztsnr and debiased estimation loss
>never get exploded gens again
it's literally that easy
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>>8367307
why do you even engage these people who are clearly either midwits or trolls
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>>8367312
debiased estimation loss is fucking trash. just use min snr gamma at something less aggressive than the default 5.
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>bake a lora with v-param, ztsnr, and Prodigy
>Gens look better than NAI
It's literally that easy
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>>8367316
do min snr work even with ztsnr-vpred?
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>>8367289
CG is correct. 50 buzz has been deposited to your account.
>>8367292
2/4.

>>8367307
anon, you can replicate toriyama much better if you use toriyama. the world of warcraft one is literally just night elf warcraft bleeding. absorbed none of the "wow" style"

Enjoy this "world of warcraft" piece.

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my adetailer has stopped adetailing and i dont know why. it detects the zones just fine, but it makes no changes at all. did i break something? is there a known bug? any guideance is appreciated
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>>8367318
i havent tired it but i dont see why it wouldnt
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edm2>debiased>minsnr
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>>8367320
did you somehow change the denoise to a really low number (or 0) and then save it? catbox the adetailer settings if that's not it.
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>say debiased makes vpred come out shit based on my tests
>get called a retard, told I don't know what I'm talking about
>noob bakes with debiased and everything gets fucked up
>say EDM2 overcooks and makes things look flat based on my tests
>get called a retard, told I don't know what I'm talking about
>noob tests EDM2 and everything looks fucked up
>say noobs LR is too high
>get called a retard, told I don't know what I'm talking about
>noob bakes with high LR and everything gets fried
hmmmm
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can you stop spreading fud please
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>>8367326
are you a or madman? Also gib lora baking advice please
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>>8367326
i went through no small amount of trouble to try out debiased when someone was shilling it here and it was awful on my test loras, and in response i got a lot of word salad armchair baking and zero evidence to disprove it
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>>8367330
he's the spammer
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>>8367329
We only blindly praise and believe in the LOCKING IN here!
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anons are you ready to drop 2000+ (1900 is the ESTIMATED MSRP, it'll be higher at launch) USD to coom to sdxl mod-- i mean, play the latest games haha, you totally still do that right 4090sisters?
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>>8367312
This works with any lora even at just 0.25 strength, you don't need those gimmicks.
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>>8367334
I fully plan to scoop up a 3090 and seat new fans on it.
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>>8367334
i bought a 4090 earlier this year and i dont regret it. but i realized that im cpu locked so i need to upgrade that...
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>>8367331
>awful on my test loras
awful how?
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>>8367334
Not sure there's any added value over a 4070, I can already load two sdxl models for refiner flow. Could try training some loras for Flux, or make my own underbaked finetune.
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>>8367334
I wonder if this will drive down the price of A5000s. I would love to get a second one
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>>8367338
it obliterated the fine details, like min snr gamma does it you set the threshold too low, etc. call it a 4ch vae issue or whatever, the fact remains that when it got down to a small area it was extremely inconsistent.
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>>8367342
That is not the issue we are seeing with noob though, fine details are...fine.
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>>8367343
if you follow the quote chain it was about loras. are you literate?
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>>8367342
was debiased the only extra noise modification that you made? My loras seem to come out detailed enough but I didn't run a direct on/off comparison so far
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>>8367330
neither
>lora advice
don't have any
>>8367331
it's pure fanaticism over whatever paper they last read it seems. even when the results posted are clear downgrades it's like they're in some bizarro world where they see the exact opposite
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>>8367344
>noob bakes with debiased and everything gets fucked up
noob isn't exactly a lora. Do you mind explaining further?
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>>8367326
explaining for the 1000th time
ANY SNR WEIGHTING IS FUCKED WITH ZTSNR SCHEDULE BECAUSE YOU MULTIPLY THE LOSS WITH ZERO ON THE TERMINAL TIMESTEP
except it's not happening because kohya's sd-scripts are not implementing snr weighting correctly
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>>8367345
yes i tested one at a time or else it wouldnt be scientific
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>>8367334
they could strap 24gb of VRAM to a 3060 non-TI and sell it for $350~400USD and make absolute fucking bank.
I hate nvidia so fucking much.
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>>8367334
i mean 1900 is the price of a 3090 right now
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>>8367349
so min snr shouldn't work with ztsnr, and it does because a sd scripts bug?
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>>8367351
>make absolute fucking bank.
from the couple thousand coomers that run local models?
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>>8367290
I bow to you oh mighty white dude for Harris. Are you from the great Sissy, I mean Sisson school of thought? Anyways, have a good day keep up the good woke.
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>>8367351
no one care about having 24gb vram except people using ai
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>>8366969
just large insertion and egg vibrator
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>>8367334
total nvidia death, no i will not be buying their shit
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>>8367353
yes
naifu (the trainer euge and lax use) implements snr weighting correctly and it doesn't work with ztsnr, like at all
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>>8367351
chinks already do this. must be illegal cause I don't see these services offered outside china.
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>>8367349
This sucks. What extra buttons am I supposed to click in easyscripts when they all make the lora worse? My loras won't feel special when I don't have 20 extra options enabled with values that i changed 5% from the default
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>>8367354
if you think the local model segment is only a "couple thousand" of people you're actually retarded.
>>8367356
most people don't give a fuck about AI because they're stuck at 8gb vram and can't do much of shit with it.
granted the whole python hakkerman console bullshit doesn't help either but with an increased marketshare of higher vram cards dev support would spring up to smooth that over by a lot. You'd also have a ton of people decide to go into that tier for home server shit to run a local accessible LLM, since while the 3060 isn't super fast it's computationally "pretty much okay" for this shit.
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>>8367347
the person you're replying to isn't me (the original poster you're quoting)
>>8367349
this doesn't invalidate anything I've said, but continue to sperg out over it
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>>8367359
so why do loras trained on easyscripts make the noob output better? even the ones that have minsnr/debiased?
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>>8367365
and other loras don't?
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>>8367319
Why the tags have the effects they do or what effects exactly they have is beyond the scope of this discussion. The goal isn't necessarily to replicate the style, but rather discover the effects are there and use them to create whatever. Also, a given artist doesn't always work in the same style either. Here's an example of using series tags to guide an artist tag: https://files.catbox.moe/mjkdsu.jpg
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>>8367366
idk, haven't seen a vpred lora that was trained without kohya yet
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>>8367367
This is my last attempt to help you, I will not be replying further. Your snake oil is burning your image. Look at the background
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>>8367362
nvidia pays mckinsey a gorillion dollars to run market analysis so that they now exactly what products to offer at what price points for maximum profit.
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>>8367367
ohnono imokos, we got too cocky
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>>8367349
>Non sequitur
>Capslock
Why's it so angry?
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would ohnyonyo inyoko produce cute catgirls?
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>>8367362
>most people don't give a fuck about AI because they're stuck at 8gb vram and can't do much of shit with it.
Exactly, its the "can only use four cores" all over again, as soon as people have access to more they will use more.
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>>8367375
It's just not a good place for civilized discussion. You also attack him instead of asking what's wrong.
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>>8367378
fwiw battlemage is only 250 usd for 12GB VRAM
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>>8367361
you can click whatever buttons you like, in easy scripts they are doing almost the same shit, and debiased+scale vpred loss is almost the same thing as minsnr(1) except it's smooth
>>8367365
because sd-scripts apply regular snr schedule for weighting even when you enable ztsnr, thus making the loss not zero and YOU FUCKING FRY THE MODEL TO THE POINT OF IT BEING UNABLE TO PRODUCE ANYTHING BUT YOUR DATASET ON SIGMAS > 14.6
>>8367326
>>8367363
you are retard and you don't know what you are talking about
noob baked with correct debiased and thus fucked up with the loss on the terminal timestep, this has nothing to do with your shitbakes
edm2 noob is literally what you use right now unless you use 0.6 or 0.5
>noob bakes with high LR and everything gets fried
the irony. 8a test model is literally 100x learning rate of the other test models and it is the only model that doesn't freak out with colors (it's absolute garbage at everything else).
you know why? because noob eps was trained on sigmas < 14.6 all the fucking time, sdxl < 14.6, kohaku < 14.6, illu < 14.6, noob eps < 14.6 and then lax suddenly thinks that 4 epochs would be enough to train sigmas > 14.6 just as well
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>>8367382
based
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>>8367371
nvidia are stuck trying to force it to remain """premium""" for as long as they can to keep selling they're xx90 SKU's to any enthusiast with deep pockets who want to care.
>>8367381
last I remember, intel arc is absolutely garbage on local model use just because there's zero fucking support for the architecture. So unfortunately it's kind of irrelevant, all things considered.
The AI world runs on CUDA and if you don't have it you're fucked.
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>>8367382
Let's crowdfund this sigma male to make us a vpred model
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>madman and a start to guide noob baking choicss
>noob bakes turn to shit
>they come here to flip out and call everyone retards for not believing in them
Gee, can't imagine why. The lady doth protest too much me thinks.
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>>8367388
0.75 is the best version since eps 0.5, though.
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>>8367388
I like madman, he's like an angry version of jordach. One of the few good characters this season. Hope he starts a spitebake
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if anyone wants to be an actually effective troll they should show civitai/hf staff that 0.9R is capable of producing realistic CSAM to get the noob team deplatformed. should be pretty easy.
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>>8367382
your reply still doesn't invalidate my points, infact it’s mostly an unrelated rant full of contradictions, irrelevant details, and ad hominem attacks. your example about the 8a test model even reinforces my point about high LR. do you need to borrow a tampon, m8?
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>>8367390
Madman is finally seeing noob lock in!!!
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>>8367389
Is it? I went back to model testing again on a whim and really fucking like 0.5 but it's inconsistent. How nice it would've been if they didn't fuck up 0.5 eps.
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>>8367394
i accept your concession
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>>8367396
it is trained on both loli hentai and cosplay photography
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>>8367398
Lax plan was to train cstaberxl all along
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>>8367382
>edm2 noob is literally what you use right now unless you use 0.6 or 0.5
KEEEK this explains why the first thing I saw everyone say about .75 is that it improved certain issues but looked flatter, holy shit. It's all coming together now.
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cosplay photos are good for specific characters loras if you choose accurate ones carefully, would be garbage if just thrown into an entire model .

You still often need to put cosplay and realistic into negs so the cosplay photos don't warp the images too much
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>>8367402
geeg
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Would a Lora trained with the correctly implemented ztsnr shit help to unfuck noob or does the whole model need to be on that sigma grindset?
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>>8367402
lol, good catch, I missed that. sounds like a lot of what they sperged about just supports my original claims... I'd be happy to have been vindicated but I'd have preferred a better bake instead. oh well
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least obvious samefag
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>>8367411
HOLY MASTERPIECE
BOX?
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>>8367406
>Would a Lora trained with the correctly implemented ztsnr shit help to unfuck noob
you can't "unfuck" it unless you don't care about what would happen to sigmas < 14.6 and you still would need a huge dataset
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>>8367411
>reasanable
You just know this is the extent of astrakikes IQ
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You will never be Astralite
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>>8367411
>Pinkie Pie from My Little Pony
>character:pony girl
>character:pinkie pie (my little pony)
HMMMMM
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>>8367415
thank fucking god
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>>8367411
>style_cluster_558
we are so back bros
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>>8367406
Loras have stabilized every version of noob so far.
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>>8367411
pffffftt
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I refuse to make prompts longer than 200 characters
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>>8367415
I feel like I could withstand six lobotomys while watching furshit and I'd at worst be on madman's level, still not approaching anywhere near astraqueef
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>>8367422
I mean even illus was greatly improved by using at least one lora
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>>8367425
same but 150 tokens instead
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Reminder to get yourself a goblin girl
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>>8367428
How can you even tell the token count
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>>8367411
>there is at minimum 558 styles you have to remember by number
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>>8367422
But only by limiting the model if I understand the other anon correctly. Guess we'll be stuck with semi-broken vpred when lax drops his final turd this weekend.
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>>8367435
does that mean 1.1 is the last eps model we wil lget by the way?
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>>8367432
I agree it's a dumb idea, but no worse than hashed artist tags. You can set up wildcards as aliases, auto replace {Zankuro} with style_cluster_1854
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>>8367429
Isn't this technically
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>>8367435
you can't actually fix all of the damage that a and madman's '''advice''' have gifted this bake. best you can hope for is to 'limit it'
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>>8367439
if not for a, this bake would never have happened
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>>8367438
not just technically, I've had bans for less
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>>8367438
Monstergirls as long as they resemble humanoids are okay. Goblin posting used to be a regular thing
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>>8367435
I just want their to be a final model so I can start baking lora again, I don't care if it's scuffed.
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>>8367443
even a broken clock is right twice a day. all he really did was ask bluvoll to do the work then gave bad advice after bad advice with 0 testing to euge after that. then madman joined the fray and they argue over who can give the worst theory crafting to sabotage the remainder of the bake. euge and lax ran out of fucks to give by the end of epsilon so they don't care
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Euge's discord was comfy and full of life during the artiwaifu days. Now it's dead and every channel is filled with toxic arguments reaching back for months.
Was vpred really worth it?
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>>8367429
gobox?
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>>8367448
It would've been if they had taken it seriously and not turned it into a shitfest of failed experiments.
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okay after testing since 0.9r release, yeah, .75 is better.

I guess I still prefer .75 perpendicular cyberfix vs any .9r

owari da...
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>>8367447
now this is just a straight up lie lol
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>>8367453
wdym, 0.9 has even more EDM2 so it has to be better. how ever could this be? it's only beginning to shine
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>>8367454
anyone can read the artiwaifu vpred channel and see it's true, lazybones
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>>8367455
yeah definitely cosplay photos are not the cause
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>>8367457
don't fret, you'll soon seen on their next non R release it's just as bad
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>>8367455
>>8367456
>>8367458
anyone can read vpred channel and see that you are seething retard ;)
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talking about monster girls just tried mixing some pokemon loras into my 1girl posting, what do you think
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>>8367119
All professionals use AdamW.
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>>8367224
Frieren just cleans up with weird magic.
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>>8367459
Screens?
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>>8367451
Same as pic related
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>>8367461
pokemon themed armor is neat, get a giratina one going and youll have my respect
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>>8367459
low quality b8
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>>8367470
legendaries and dragons make the coolest armor so seems reasonable.
Takes a lot of prompt fucking around and the design is really inconsistent between prompts which annoys me though.

Like if I want a consistent poke-armor I am going to have to make a lora for the armor girl after making a bunch of images with lots of inpaint
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>>8367469
based
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>>8367461
Would maybe try to modify the style a bit, but I like it. Gens of girls in both bikini and full plate armor are always welcome in my book
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Does anyone know a good way to prompt shortstacks? the tag doesnt seem to do any good and just gives normal proportions with large breasts or something.
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>>8367476
Depends what you mean by good. It tends to give hyper thighs, but you could try prompting size difference and increase the body parts that you want
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>>8367476
add asanagi at low weight
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what actually is this "very awa" on civitai images, I thought it was just shitposting here
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>>8367482
oil
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>>8367482
did you not read the updated noob descriptions?
https://files.catbox.moe/vj3a4n.png
https://civitai.com/models/833294/noobai-xl-nai-xl
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>tencent release uncensored model with nsfw
>tencent took down the nsfw sex lora
I'm getting mixed messages here
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If we're getting the last version of noob this month, then I sure hope euge and lax learned their lessons about fucking up the bakes to the point of no return. But I have a feeling that Lax will probably stop giving support for local bakes after seeing how this one turned out. Stagnation and oblivion is all what's left for local.
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>>8367482
what the fuck
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>>8367482
>he doesn't research models
oh nyo nyo nyo nyo~
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>>8367488
>tencent release uncensored model with nsfw
Link?
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>>8367495
I don't see why you'd want them to bake more. They had no idea what they were doing, depended on literal who grifters that actively made their models worse, made stupid choices at every turn and don't even have any compute once this grant runs dry. That what they have given us is locals best model is testament to how little options we've had, sad honestly.
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>>8367509
https://github.com/Tencent/HunyuanVideo
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>>8367519
Oh, I thought you meant image gen. That's cool though.
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>>8367448
both lax team and the people giving them ideas are complete idiot midwits
they should have just stuck with exactly what nai did with vpred instead of any of the retarded dogshit suggested to them
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>>8367477
>size difference
what if its 1girl?
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Is eps 0.5 still the best model?
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>>8367537
Did you try oppai loli? You would have to prompt hips separately though.
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>>8367528
>pls just make lax spend all h100 time on vpred
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>>8367275
> force
why

> No
yes, it is business and they have to sell the product
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>>8367293
someone tries to frame pony
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>ugh, here we go again
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>Waifu Scorer V3.0 is a aesthetic scorer model designed to score anime-like images.
>Score ranges from 0 to 10. Higher score means better image.
lol


also
>last 300 posts
>only 10 with gens
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>>8367576
It's gonna be one of those "more shit, more better" kind of scorer, won't it? Also, posting gen.
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>>8367576
im genning /e/ sorry
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>>8367580
>>8367573
nice gens. boxes please?
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>>8367580
> gonna be
>>8367486
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>>8367585
smash
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>>8367584
https://files.catbox.moe/v90nwo.png
https://files.catbox.moe/932pii.png
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>>8367592
thanks goat
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>>8367525
cute when she gonna spread those legs
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>>8367592
is that a sensei lora?
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bros.. how much longer do I have to wait to become ojisan? It's so easy for them..
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what the fuck did they do to 0.9r to make it regress in knowledge so badly that it can't even do a gacha slut like mualani right anymore
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>>8367614
box!!??
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Celebrity-tier paizuri
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>>8367627
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>>8367614
female pubic stubble is hot, so underrated
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>>8367149
Settings > User interface > Quicksettings list > eta_ancestral
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Time lapse or fixed camera loras seem almost impossible.
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>>8367642
pumping
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Has anyone managed to get a good looking one finger challenge selfie ? It keeps adding more fingers and arms than needed
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I think it somewhat understand the idea of panels in a fixed point camera, but it might work better with regional prompting or downright img2img with a doodle.
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>>8367648
Ran this as a test, but your mileage may vary. I suggest using controlnet though.

https://files.catbox.moe/6bdxa4.png
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finally decided to try getting A111, downloading now. will this be able to make hentai too or do i need NAI?
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>>8367655
Apples and oranges, A11 is just the UI
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I need your help anons: How do I prompt for this hairstyle:
https://files.catbox.moe/6dsiou.png
Nothing seems to work
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Why can't I set batch size higher than 8? My GPU can handle more, at least at base gen resolution.
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I wanna be the ojisan
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>>8367658
you cant prompt for 80% of hairstyle
good luck making a lora
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>>8367662
Based, I wanted to be the ojisan since I started fapping to hentai in my teens. I guess me getting fatter last few years was part of the plan all along.
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dead thread
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>>8367676
everyone's waiting for v4
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>5girls, side-by-side
>wide frame so they can all fit
>get four at most, regional prompt for their identities blends them together
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>>8367679
??
>>8366617
>>8366615
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>>8367676
>miqobro leaves
>pedofags flood in
>general dies
Reminder: you deserve what you tolerate
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>>8367684
nah
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>>8367684
Was Miqote bro the pillar of this general all along?
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>>8367624
EDM2 getting a full run
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>>8367670
>getting fatter last few years
Based. We're just investing, ojibro. We'll soon be able to cash out.
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>>8367680
model issue
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>>8367271
https://files.catbox.moe/jg1ckv.png
https://files.catbox.moe/t66uvf.png
https://files.catbox.moe/0qhhnf.png
Don't think the artists he's using now are much different from those
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>>8367662
j.k., yd and ratat?
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>>8367708
0/3, anon. It's mainly 7010 with incase and asura at low weight for sharper outlines.
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>>8367708
I dont think either of those are here, dont know why you think that
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>>8367721
>>8367722
embarrassing moment, but I was almost sure some j.k. is there.
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>>8367724
that doesnt look like j.k. at all, maybe you are confused by marin baked in eyelashes
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>>8367722
>>8367724
To be fair, j.k. for the eyelashes isn't too off base. It's definitely that style. But rat and yd for sure I don't see.
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>>8367724
there is a jk...
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>>8367727
Isn't that technically
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still getting used to this. just got it running.
what are the best models to use, best sampling method/type, and is this really taxing on your video card (using A1111)?
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>>8367728
Hyperbased? Yes.
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>>8367731
>models to use
PonyXL V6
>best sampling method/type
Euler a/Karras
>and is this really taxing on your video card (using A1111)
It's a GPU intensive task as taxing as encoding high resolution videos or playing modern games
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>>8367731
>what are the best models to use
https://civitai.com/models/1001795?modelVersionId=1150007
>best sampling method/type
dpm++ 2m sde/SGM uniform
>is this really taxing on your video card
What >>8367734 said. It's not going to kill your GPU, if that's what you mean. At least, not anytime soon.
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>https://civitai.com/models/1045588/pornmaster-pro-illustrious?modelVersionId=1173150
PORNMASTER-PRObros eating good this morning.
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why use cyberfix instead of base 0.75
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>>8367734
thanks. so if I spent all day and night making pictures could i fry my video card? has anyone in these threads have that happen? rocking a GeForce RTX 2070 Super
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what artist make nice dicks
no homo btw
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>>8367737
Because all my friends on /hdg/ do and they'd make fun of me if I didn't.
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>>8367738
your graphics card will last for about 200 images. Better to buy a novelai subscription for only 25$ a month unlimited image generation and amazing roleplay with the erato state of the art llm
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>he uses any of the shit vpred models
lmao
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i hate civitai
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>he likes (ai-generated:1.8) sepia
roru
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>>8367744
>zoomzoom has to compulsively click the heckin red important notifications
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>>8367738
They're designed to work at 100% 24/7, as long as the cooler fan is clean. Even then, it will just slow down and thermal throttle, not melt.

Of course using your GPU will kill it faster than not using it, but it should still last those 5 or so years.
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>>8367748
yes. i'll just hide them with ublock though.
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>>8367740
what do you think a nice dick looks like, seems very subjective
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>>8367752
nice
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noob inpainting model when
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>>8367756
Right after Noob-Vpred-R-S-0.97866666... gets released.
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>>8367751
one that doesnt look like a shiny plastic tube
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>>8367751
1)moist
2)girthy
3)veiny
4)supple foreskin
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>>8367769
what is this bootleg ruby
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>>8367773
Is there anything Ruby about her other than the hair color?
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>>8367769
Isn't this hypothetically aco?
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>>8367774
hairstyle is like 80% of who an anime girl is
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>>8367775
it's cathag
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>>8367776
it's not her hairstyle though, it's a ponytail
she has short hair
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how do you make a prompt avoid mixing two characters together? say you want two unique women kissing each other from the same franchise and it's blending both characters looks together. How do you avoid this?
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>>8367776
Yeah and Ruby does not have a ponytail. I just borrow the hair color because I like it.
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>>8367775
One of those "western artist pretending to draw anime". Without those lips and noses no one would even notice.
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reForge anon if you're here can you do a shitmix of 0.5 eps and cyberfix?
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>>8367779
I mean it could still be ruby with a ponytail
>>8367781
Well you prompted for her so you can understand how I see similarities
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>>8367780
For high-effort stuff use regional prompter. Otherwise >>>/aco/8644590
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>>8367707
lmao some anon posted your gen in an AI seethe thread >>8367759
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>>8367580
100%, aesthetic means fill every inch with bullshit just like anythingv3.0
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>>8367786
Well, no features other that those which apply to both of them
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>>8367769
why deleted sexy hentai???
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Any noob vpred style loras that aren't garbage?
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おはとも
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damn, it really was cathag
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>>8367790
That was actually a decently reasonable thread without much seethe.
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>>8367801
It was never a secret...
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>>8367790
isnt that the artstyle of that guy that posts that horned girl
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>>8367804
Why does he do it?
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>>8367804
I was holding out hope for a new genposter, even one with a questionable style
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>>8367807
>new posters
>when anything that isn't flat ydslop with featureless faces gets booed out
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>>8367809
don't forget, if I don't like it, it's /aco/.
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>>8367809
this shitpost is so played out, get a new one
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samefag status?
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she's right, you know
nta btw
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>>8367813
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No, I won't take my meds this evening.
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>>8367809
I have an unfathomable amount of yd gens
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https://files.catbox.moe/jfi2v3.png
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>https://civitai.com/models/1045381/mopm-my-own-personal-merge-noob-10eps-based-furry-merge?modelVersionId=1172918
>personalmerge gets an update
LFG, CHAT
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>>8367805
who?
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I will take everyone's untaken meds all at once. Sayounara, losers.
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>>8367825
That's a dangerous dose, anon.
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>>8367772
2 is the big thing, like artists either devolve into 2ft long sticks or like 3in long 6 in thick choads and there's never that in between.

>>8367770
Ahemaru, (attoru:0.7) and (fishine:0.7) has been a good base for me. But problem with that is tangentially related to the other poster I'm responding is like we hit that shit mix of
>artist can draw great genitals but just sucks / has shit style
>artist has great style but draws plastic tube's because their gonna be censored anyway
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Optimizing your stylemix for cock is gay. There, I said it
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>>8367832
what if it's optimizing for feminine cock?
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>>8367832
Sharing your porn and fetishes in a thread with a bunch of other guys is really gay too, what's your point?
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>>8367833
Miquellabox?
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>>8367834
i'm here for the femcel
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>>8367832
>not having sets for sex and 1girling
I mean it's gay to watch porn the focus is on the cock anyway. Lesbian porn is just wishing they had a dick. It inevitably leads back to penis
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>>8367830
Yeah I was using fishine aswell but it make things kinda yellow with thick outline, and on your second point yeah, the amount of censored artist on danbooru is kinda annoying so its hard to even have a good amount of choice
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>>8367834
We're all just jerking off together, no homo.
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Don't mind me, just patiently waiting for our Creative Pillar of Community to start posting again.
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>>8367833
nemunemu (candy paddle) is all you need for that
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>>8367843
you're laughing, the creative pillars of this community are crumbling and you're laughing
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>>8367840
I took it off vs on and at least for the mix I like right now and it's noticeable but just needs to be lowered strength. Nonco does surpsingly well, sirachi is solid but more cartoony like a knock off asanagi without fat chick's
>trylsc
>bacius
Are other 2 good stabilizers as well.
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>>8367843
Thick lips anon is putting up a hard fight with cathag
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>>8367843
be more specific
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>>8367850
It's a NovelAI shill.
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If novelai is so novel, how come their model hasn't updated in a year?
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>>8367859
They dropped a phat ass 8k context llm model on us, chud.
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>>8367859
>No controlents
>No loras for the most recent gacha sluts
>Snakeoil transfer
>No artists in v4
>Shiity NL captions
It's really sad to see how low they have fallen.
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>>8367859
Because they had to give Textbros something with a model that was already outdated when it came out. I still write erotica with it though.
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>combine a bunch of artists that draw fucked up pupils
>get fucked up pupils
how could this happen
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>>8367865
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ7oqmikZDQ
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>>8367861
You'll eat your words once v4 is released, claudechuddie.
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>Haven't updated reForge in 4 months
Is there anything new with reForge that's worth updating especially with NoobAI related checkpoints?
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>>8367877
some nice new snakeoils to try such as PAG, SWG, mahiroCFG, RAUnet
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PAG isnt new i guess, whatever
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>>8367567
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwwN5kwjAtQ
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>>8367878
mahiroCFG? lmao
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>>8367881
local development is driven by hopeless weebs with zero naming sense, it is how it is
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>>8367888
still better than personalMerge
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original character
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>>8367890
The scythe came out surprisingly well.
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>>8367890
look the same to me
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>>8367632
It's scratchy during nuru massage.
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>>8367890
fuck off and kill yourself already
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>>8367681
Anon...
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Was it autism?
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>>8367899
is
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>>8367890
the only effort poster who still has passion for this place and is an actual part of the community unlike troonter engagement farmers, absolutely based and soulful
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>>8367896
Refer to >>8366419
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>>8367901
Ironic, considering he's the only one getting engagement.
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How can I use the noobai ipadapter for style transfer without it messing up the character I'm prompting?
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>>8367909
Structure is built during early steps.
Coloring and shading is done afterwards.
Armed with this information, you should be able to figure it out.
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>>8367918
I've messed with the "star_at" and "end_at" parameters already, it still messes up the character.
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>>8367909
You can try giving it more reference images at once, think it accepts up to four. Same style but different characters.
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>>8367921
What do you mean by "messes up"? Start @ 0.3 or later shouldn't affect the overall shape and size anymore.
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>>8367909
As >>8367925 said, also adding more descriptive tags for your character can help steer the model.
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What's the most you should upscale images for a lora dataset? Is 2x too much?
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>>8367928
keeping the final resolution close to 2048x2048 is fine, but remember it will be downscaled again to 1024x so you must upscale with a purpose
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>>8367928
large than 1024x on one side kinda pointless
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>>8367932
I'm pretty sure random crop and bucketing let you take advantage of higher resolutions
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>>8367933
yeah i meant 2048, 1024 should be the min res not max
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>>8367928
If you're going to do it, I’d like to see you at least double the resolution settings for the training side.
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>use noobai
>prompt character
>gives it a hairpin
>i want to make the character without ornaments so I put it on negatives
>still gives her hairpin
>I put hairpin, hairclip, hair ornament on negatives
>still gives her hairpin
>I put (hairpin, hairclip, hair ornament:1.5) on negs
>still gives her hairpin
i calmly want to kill someone today

i suspect this is all cuz the bake used high values for caption dropout or sum shit.
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>>8367945
haven't encountered this on noob yet but reducing character tag strength helped with this shit on nai.
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can anyone tell what's the model/lora used for this?
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>>8367945
bwo your inpaint?
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>>8367948
>fried
>oversatured
Yep, it's vpred with no loras
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>>8367948
Stop stealing people's styles maybe?
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>>8367382
>YOU FUCKING FRY THE MODEL TO THE POINT OF IT BEING UNABLE TO PRODUCE ANYTHING BUT YOUR DATASET ON SIGMAS > 14.6
I mean, I believe you, I've noticed this problem for any LoRAs I've trained for v-pred. I have to use a combination of guidance limiting and LoRA scheduling to give me proper compositional variety.
But if this is a fundamental problem, and you know the reason for it occurring, why can't you make a PR to fix it...? I'd love to be able to avoid using this scheduling workaround.
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>>8367945
lower character weight idiot
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>>8367950
looks more like SD1.5
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>>8367955
Aren't personal insults against the rules of this Community?
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>>8367948
its some pony variant
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Any news on pony v7?
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>>8367958
facts are not an insult buddybro
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>>8367890
Yeah I think I'm gonna kneel
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Will I get (you)s when I add some comic sans flavortext to my gens?
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>>8367964
Yes, you become a cerified Effortposter and a Pillar of this community.
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>>8367964
You sure won't get them posting regular gens, might as well try.
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OMG ITZ MIGU :--DDD
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Pony v7 when? illustrious 1.0 when?
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>>8367964
Why would you put in so much effort when you can just post 1girl, loli, dark-skinned_male for free (You)s?
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>>8367962
ywnbap (p stands for pillar btw)
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>>8367965
Only if he's a Creative
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How do I uninstall local
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>>8367967
Requesting Migu's asshole getting brutalized by BBC
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My pillar is so hard rn.
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>>8367974
Uninstall yourself
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Over/under on how long it will take the zoomies infesting this thread until they realize that their life is worthless and hang themselves? I want to know when this thread will be usable again.
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Who are you talking about lil bro?
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>>8367981
blud be hatin fr. he on that kedrick grindset ong
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>>8367982
lmao that's a WAPOW if I've ever seen one!
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based
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>>8367964
Peak hdg (you) potential
>cropped suggestive photo with a catbox link
>captioned image
>mid style
Thank me later when you're rolling in (you)'s
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>>8367985
Thanks, you too :)
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>>8367977
Consider this >>8367985
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Ok, I've been away from this world for months. What happened to Colab? Does nobody use it anymore? No other options to use SD non-locally aside from NAI?
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1girl, 1cum
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>>8367992
As far as I know, Google shuts down free Colab instances running stable diffusion in a matter of minutes, but I haven't bothered with it in a while.
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>>8367991
*cums profusely*
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Real talk what's the big difference between 16GB/24GB of VRAM on local?

What is it that the last 8GB enables? I don't care about video genning.
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>>8368000
I cant do shit mix merges on 12gb for sdxl. I assume if you wanted to do much beyond prompting higher vram future proofs you like Flux needed way more vram or if you wanna get into text gen requires way more
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>>8368000
unless you're training or using a heavier model than sdxl it doesn't really matter. inference is cheap
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>>8367951
kys cathag
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>>8367999
what is that appendage between her legs?
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>>8368008
Dunno who that is, but:
- stop stealing other people's styles
- stop being bigoted
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>>8368010
Her arm?
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>>8368012
it's AI art lil bro chill
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>>8363673
Footbro... I beg... box
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>>8368015
Slop.
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>>8368019
Let. Him. Slop
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why does any aspect ratio wider than 1:1 start melting
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>>8367999
Not seeing any men or cocks there. Not even a drop of cum. Care to explain yourself?
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>>8368023
Might be an issue related to your current abilities
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>>8368013
You are right that it's odd looking at it again, I hope this fixes it.
>>8368024
It's meant for cis males so I can't post it to /u/.
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>>8364817
>>8364765

Box?
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I'd like to thank all my fans who have voted for me.
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>>8368023
Box?
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>>8368030
It doesn't. Her left arm just couldn't be in that position. It's better in that she doesn't have 2 right arms now, though.
You really should just inpaint that arm between her legs out anyway. In her position, it should be obscured by her leg.
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>>8368036
Well I guess I need to take a better look at the overall composition of my slop before posting.
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>>8368040
https://litter.catbox.moe/8e7e37.png
blue irks me the most. The arm between her legs would be ok if angled a little differently
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>>8368042
Wrong arm. Red is her left arm so anatomically it isn't all that incorrect in the fix he posted before if not just a little weird
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>>8368032
basied
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>>8368042
>>8368036
Its not that deep
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>>8368042
You have inverted the arms, she is supporting with her left arm and doing the v with ther right one across her torso. Look at where the thumb is.
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Tick tock, localcucks. Tick. Tock.
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>>8368050
2 more weeks
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local (on someone else's PC) has won...
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Glad to see that local bakers aren't the only ones that poison their datasets with random useless garbage
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>>8368054
I mean, they're supposedly training a foundational model. I don't think you can do one on danbooru alone. They're probably gonna do some aesthetic tunes though.
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>>8368042
Or you could just stfu.
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>>8368054
>random useless garbage
wdym, it looks cool
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>>8368058
Does it look like yd (orange maru) to you?? NO?! Yeah it's SHIT!
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>>8368059
This but unironically. Go back to pony if you want figurines
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>>8368058
If it doesn't further the creation of blacked 2hus in nyantcha's style it's shit and bad and is ruining the model
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>it's not garbage if a SaaS corpo does it
>it's complete utter garbage and retardation nonsense if local does it
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>>8368068
If local could prove anyone there can actually bake then maybe this argument could hold water. NAI has been at the forefront of AI models ever since v1 came out
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>>8368068
Difference is that the corp gets it right and doesn't disappear after melting down on discord
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>>8368054
based, can't wait for hecken reimu fumo getting blacked
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>>8368054
Im glad they are going to prove me right about my unfounded claim that you can put anything into your model as long as you do it well
Local model maker just have a massive skill issue so I hope v4 is crazy good so they can start getting their head out of their ass
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>>8368068
local still cant even do vpred while nai figured it out perfectly more than a year ago
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>>8368054
I hope they used figure showcases of varied backgrounds because I know there are some out there, and also varied shots rather than the same full body one.
>random useless garbage
Still way better than the fleshlight collection and cum jar Astralite was using lmao.

>>8368068
>>it's complete utter garbage and retardation nonsense if furries and bronies do it.
Yes.
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No artists.
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>>8368073
I don't think they will. Local's issue is that companies like NAI and Illustrious lay out what they need to do through papers and such, but then Local always goes "Nah. I'm just going to my own thing."
There is that issue and the fact that local always seems open to suggestions, even if they're really bad like just throwing in E621.
I think until Local gets someone who goes "I'm focusing on what has been successful for SAAS models, and people can take their opinions and suggestions and shove them up their own ass until we get a good foundation" then local isn't getting anywhere.
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>>8368068
NAI has a pretty good track record, while local bakers seem to be doing things badly on purpose.
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>>8368073
>t. kyrumuz
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does "diffuson in low bits" do anything for non flux models?
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>>8368073
>you can put anything into your mode
yeah, putting in handful of figurines and plushies photos for style is the same like the whole e621 and roasties photos
inb4
>just use small curated e621 for the heckin sexy concept!
all this niche shit has very low image count to begin with so after quality cutoff it would be close to zero anyway
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>>8368078
>while local bakers seem to be doing things badly on purpose
Not gonna lie I'm starting to believe this is the case, no way they are actually this retarded
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>>8368077
>I think until Local gets someone who goes "I'm focusing on what has been successful for SAAS models, and people can take their opinions and suggestions and shove them up their own ass until we get a good foundation" then local isn't getting anywhere.
Funny part is that NAI's finetune guy has admitted himself that they failed vpred bakes several times. It's okay to go back to square one and retry.
Noob had the compute and had the time to do several attempts with sensible defaults and see what actually works. But they never did. They just kept baking while adding weird, dubious shit and changing shit on the fly. That was the weirdest part for me, real sunk cost case.
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try this with "regional prompter" localkeks
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>>8368088
v4 really is going to absolutely destroy this subreddit lol
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>>8368089
meant for >>8366753
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>>8368089
big changes to the composition and colors of the pic - before upscale
making stuff more detailed and small fixes - after
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>>8368088
isn't this just nai doing regional prompting but hidden kek
You could do this so easily with inpainting anyway
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>>8368094
>nogen
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>>8368033
https://files.catbox.moe/qsy5hx.png
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>>8368091
>this subreddit
Oh Mr. Bot, you so crazy.
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>>8368091
I wonder how all the raiding shills and resident naikeks are gonna try convincing us that no artists tags is fine.
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>>8368091
this shithole is dead anyway
spam, slop worse than civit gallery and some attentionwhores is all that is left
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Hello sirs, does anyone know of an illustrious model that uses LCM/PCM/HyperSD/Lightning/something else to reduce the amount of steps? I've been using SD 1.5/SDXL models of this type since my GPU is shit and 6 steps there are enough compared to the usual 20, but I checked civitai and the top 40 illustrious models, none of them had a version like that. And I tried using the HyperSD XL Lora with a regular model but the results were always worse than a checkpoint of that type
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>>8368088
So the implication here is that they prompted for two different types of hugs? And not just randomly got them without specifying.
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>>8368110
Stop doubting the corporate speakperson, chud.
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Is there a way to train loras without relying on my computer? I've got a weak GPU. google colabs are still a no-go right?
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>>8368102
>spam, slop worse than civit gallery and some attentionwhores
Which of those factions do you represent?
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>>8368112
you can train a "lora" on civit
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>>8368088
It's OVYR
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>>8368112
If you have enough buzz on civitai, you could train a Lora there. Otherwise you could caption and share your own dataset here and hope someone else trains on it on their hardware to share afterwards.
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>>8368088
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>>8368121
naisisters don't look
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How many images per epoch should I aim for if I want to make a lora to improve a concept?
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>>8368124
epoch size doesn't really matter
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>>8368121
>no ocs, no unique expression, characters don't look at each other
try again
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>>8368121
which artist/s?
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Can't wait for all the raw slop 832p spam again, cause no one's gonna be spending their precious anals on upscaling and refining their gens. At least with v3 the cope was its novelty, but v4 probably isn't gonna be such a leap in quality, so how we gonna justify the sloppin'?
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>>8368125
I only say epochs to account for image repeats but the question still stands. What's a good number of images to aim for?
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>>8368129
>upscaling and refining their gens
why would this even be needed if images come out completely perfect?
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no artists
no 16ch vae
no natural language

Naisissies lost
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>>8368121
make lumine have a penis and fuck ganyu while keqing watch
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>>8368124
>How many images per epoch should I aim for if I want to make a lora to improve a concept?
I think the rule of thumb is between 50-100 images at minimum, depending on the concept.

If it's a concept completely unknown to the model to begin with, at minimum 100 images of the concept with varying characters, compositions and styles is needed. Also the more varied mages of the concept, the better.

Else if it's a concept that the model kind of knows already, but where it's not consistent, you could get away with a smaller dataset, maybe between 25-50 images or so.

May I ask, what concept do you want to train on?
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>>8368127
giwtwm
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>>8368124
More the better. Concepts are the hardest to train, and you also need enough varied images to avoid style bias.
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>>8368121
LOCAL LOOKS LIKE THAT!?!?!?
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>>8368138
it's pony
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>>8368134
trying to enhance underwater compositions. illust / noob knows of it but it always leads to mixed results. For example, pool mostly gets tagged as the topside so doing both underwater,pool tries to mix the two
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>>8368138
Local looks like anything you want, with enough effort.
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You can turn your Trabant into a spaceship if you aren't a lazy gooner.
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>>8368140
Ah that doesn't sound too bad, don't think it will be difficult for the model to learn that concept. But as another anon said, the more images the better. If it were me I would start with 50 images if possible.
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>>8368142
There's no room for enough fuel to reach orbit
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>>8368145
Good morning Sir.
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I wish to all the "it's"-posters a respectful fucking kys
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>>8368133
Now that's based.
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>>8368149
Why? Were're helpful :(
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>>8368149
tis mad
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>pretends to be retarded
>gets called a retard
>"Y-you mad!!!!"
jejmao
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where the blud wit tha whip @?
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oh i was just joking, he actually was mad lol
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>>8368149
You'll seethe and there won't be anything you can do about it. It's how things are at the moment. You're too late and can't stop us.
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>>8368023
sdxl is 1024x1024
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Who is "he/them"?
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I'm not mad senpai, are you?
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>>8368161
im not mad just very hangry
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>>8368128
>(jun \(navigavi\),wanaata:0.5),(sakura no tomoru hi e:0.75),(mutou mato:0.8),<lora:ireading-2061it-e12-noobvpredtest:0.6>
I think I got the lora from here
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>>8368159
It is also any other resolution that adds up to 1024x1024 pixels, in 64px increments. I guess he's struggling with one of the other ones, like 1216 x 832
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>>8368161
I'm mad and I'll correct you little brat!
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>>8368133
el basado
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Kiss me.
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>>8368170
Depends, are you cute?
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>>8368171
According to me mum, yes.
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>>8368165
those are workable but the training res was still 1024x
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>>8368170
I'm not attracted to nogens, sorry
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>>8368173
that is 1024x
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>>8368172
Could you tell us, in the style of danbooru tags, what your mom looks like? Asking for no particular reason.
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>>8368172
Are you British?
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>>8368163
nice ty
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>>8368174
surprisingly based
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Gen me like one of your french girls
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>>8368174
I'm a creative pillar bro, trust.
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>>8368178
>are you retarded?
No, just pretending.
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>>8368145
Do it, end it all
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>>8368184
>understands that the British are idiots
Okay you get a smooch from me cutie
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>>8368188
Heh tricked you, I was pure 100% British all along! T-thanks for the kiss though.
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what's stopping someone from reposting from aibooru and claiming it as their own? are we stupid?
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Good thread for chat
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>>8368190
There is some retards that already do that
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>>8368191
Ye, wassup dawg?
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the spammer is a dumb nignog and has no balls
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>>8368190
there are already twitter reposters
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>>8368190
>aibooru
people use this?
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>>8368190
people repost from kemono, civitai, aibooru. what does it matter? 90% of whats posted here is slop anyway
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>>8368196
Not reposters, but creative pillars of our community
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>>8368199
I thought it was 100% slop.
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>community
>3 samefags
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>>8368203
nah, 10% of the images here are miku and reimu
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>>8368204
*3 nogen pillars
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Can someone explain to me how I can get more (You)'s on my image gens without any:
>Obvious loli/underage girl
>Avatar/oc posting
>Vaginal pov
>Other stuff that doesn't follow the rules
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>>8368207
What's stopping you from genning loli though?
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i'm unironically starting to like tony 3 s, he's very autistic and dumb, but kinda cute
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>>8368207
blacked reimu/migu with comic sans flavor text. Also saggy small tits for some reason
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>>8368209
Weird way to confess that you're a gay
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>>8368208
The rules and me not being interested in loli.
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>>8368207
Some nice cum on your gen
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>>8368209
I'm just tired of this season. Next one can't start soon enough
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>>8368213
>The rules
Go back.

>me not being interested in loli
Go back.
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>>8368207
Vaginal pov doesn't work, and you gotta be really obnoxious with waifuposting to get noticed. Been doing it for a year on and off, still didn't even get a name.
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>>8368216
you should go back to /b/ if you don't like it.
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>>8368217
>Been doing it for a year on and off, still didn't even get a name.
Who's your waifu? I'll notice you.
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>>8368219
>pity (you)s
no thanks, rather earn them the proper way. somehow
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>>8368207
Pubic stubble and very ugly ojisans.
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>>8368132
16ch vae and natural language was confirmed retard
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>vaginal pov
:|
>loli
:O
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Guys, which sampler works best on vpred 0.75s using lora hyper sdxl?
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>>8368190
Who cares. What next, you're gonna glaze your images and put watermarks all over?
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I've never seen vaginal POV. Who would want to look up at a cock ready to slide into your face? Sounds gay.
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>>8368207
Anon, 4chan has a structural (You)cism problem, the top 2% hold 98% of the (You)s and they oppress everyone else to keep their power, there is simply no way to fight against it.
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>>8368231
>Who would want to look up at a cock ready to slide into your face?
Me :)
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i almost admire tony sss's single minded pursuit of the same foot licking gen and 1girl, gachaslut, standing gen
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who and what
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>>8367252
artist: yabuki kentarou, artist: robaato, artist: shu-mai, artist: halcon, artist: aposine

halcon in particular is pretty strong on nai. i usually edit gens a little bit which is why metadata is gone.
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>>8368207
>>Avatar/oc posting
Why would you want to gen anything BUT your OC? Animu/vidya/gacha sluts all have a million images and entire doujins already.
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>>8368154
box?
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>>8367525
is this hailuo?
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>>8368237
not with your hyper-specific fetish though
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>>8367802
tfw noigf
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>>8368237
oc slop posts are the most boring garbage that has ever disgraced this shithole, fuck you
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>>8368237 (You)
This but unironically.
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Lil bro made a character for daddy incest fantasies but too much of a pussy to make her a cunny
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>>8368237
you're waifu shouldn't be a product of your own fantasy, but a character unto herself
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>>8368190
>are we stupid?
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>>8368209
He's genuinely autistic unlike most of 4channers that claim to be so.
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>>8368190
we can go further. farm patreonbux entirely with reposts claimed as your own
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i bet birdschizo is the spammer
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>>8368251
I don't gen my waifu. That'd be extremely disrespectful.
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I bet NAI v4 gonna MOG :D
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First attempt at something resembling a sequence. I tried to maintain some details with inpainting, but RNG is merciless.
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>>8368262
Patreon link? I'm gonna sub
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>>8368263
>Patreon
Huh?
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Jordach status?
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>>8368264
Bro, your griftbucks?
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>>8368265
have you ever seen jordach and lax in the same room?
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have there been any better SDXL controlnets released since xinser like 6 months ago
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>>8368257
my waifu is my model, my muse. my gens glorify and worship her
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>>8368273
Gen her farting please.
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>>8368275
why coulndt u do this in a style that is less ugly...it pains me to see all this effort put into this
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>>8368277
Explain how it's ugly without sounding like a complete retard (as you already do).
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nah.
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>>8368277
As with all things you don't like, people only do it to troll and spite you specifically.
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>>8368277
can you explain what sort of insane "effort" are you seeing there? baseres 1girl face close-up with inpainted bar code? oh wow a split tongue?!
cathag's gens are much more fun and dynamic, no matter how much you hate him and yet nobody licks his asshole every time about how much of a heckin wholesome chungus effort poster he is or do that ironically.
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>>8368283
Funny cause lil schizo might actually start believing that.
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>>8368284
He's being obnoxious on purpose. Effort gens should get recognized on their own merit, they don't need a bunch of text bait attached.
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I'm really glad my images only ever get a "hot" or a "sexy" and I hope it stays that way.
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>>8368287
ur so cool
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>>8368288
hot
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"sexy" is bait
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>>8368289
and sexy
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>>8368290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA3-eUekq5k
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hot and sexy, like my balls
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funny you think id reply to bait like that
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Yikes bro, kinda cringe, nobody wanted to read about your balls.
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>>8368239
https://litter.catbox.moe/uv18tt.png
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>>8368297
Lick my big, hairy balls.
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Sexual harassment btw.
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>>8368256
Yeah you can tell by how he types
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Yeah, it's him fo sho
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Train an LLM to recognize posters by their writing.
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I stopped posting gens to not get recognized by my gens and now they're analyzing the writing style, can an anonie post in peace?!
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>>8368304
why? it's just you and me
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>>8368308
and me
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Jokes on you, I'm behind 7 writing styles
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>>8368310
yeah, but you're the third wheel
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wens v4
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>>8368301
Mmh, yeah, now work that tongue in there baby.
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>>8368307
This but for unironically
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>>8368307
Don't forget to change up your filenames too. Like you can tell there are only three comfy posters itt and identify their gens.
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>>8368273
THIS SO MUCH THIS AND UNIRONICALLY
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there are two sides of me
one that doesnt capitalize and punctuate when i type shitposts
And one that does.
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>>8368322
thats how you samefag well, by responding to yourself with different typing style like how im doing now
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blud thinks we don't know it's him :skull:
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>>8368324
Based.
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>>8368324
>>8368322
I agree with both of these posters.
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>>8368325
this but WAPOW
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you'd think we hit the image limit already
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>>8368329
the image limit was the dicks we genned along the way
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>>8368324
i switch between british and american spelling of words depending on when I'm shitposting. The truth? I'm brown
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Mystery anon here, noob will be redeemed for the final release. It's all part of the plan.
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>>8368335
>>8367985
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>>8368335
lax is crashing this model with no survivors
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>>8368335
chat is this real?
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>>8368332
Brown girl?
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>>8368329
The images that get posted here are deleted unless they are garbage. It's a text thread.
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>>8368341
I have some cute slender fingers
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>>8368344
>censored
for what purpose
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>>8368347
didn't feel like inpainting
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>>8368347
it's code
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>>8368338
You'll find out this weekend
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>>8368347
you can imagine the most beautifull penis in your mind that way
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>>8368347
I'm more concerned about how fat she is.
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>>8368351
>the most beautifull penis
Only futa lolis posses these.
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>>8368352
one man's concern is another man's elation
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>>8368352
chubby girls are fine as long as a fair amount of chub is stored in the boobs.avr0
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>>8368031
see >>8365392
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I at least understood people bitching about personalmerge being too bright. Been on a binge fucking with the better shit out in the noob line with 0.5 eps, cyberfix 0.65 / 0.75. 0.5 eps is still so fucking good I cry every time, surely some autistic anon just takes this and runs their own shit on it.
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slop
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>>8368104
mogudanbox?
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>>8368386
Where?
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sgm uniform just wins. everything else if either too slow, kills details or too random
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pain
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>>8368400
box?
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>>8368405
Let me guess, getting the hands right when placed upon an object?
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>>8368398
yeah
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>/hdg/: SGM is the best, other schedulers can't compare!
>also /hdg/: wtf why are my gens full of artifacts???
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>>8368411
no, it's getting this retard's outfits to work right. i get one working better and then another shits itself despite making absolutely no changes to its images or captions in the dataset
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https://files.catbox.moe/hb2u64.png
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>>8368413
pretty sure its shitposting
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>>8368335
DO NOT REDEEM
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>>8368413
better than having to use triple the stepcount for karras or cosine or some other meme
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Might as well post another wife test since it's quiet. So far her noob loras have been more versatile in art styles than pony, obviously. But they also take more liberties with her face and body type. Even if I try to burn them in on purpose. I suppose those things are also part of style, in a way.
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>>8368408
https://files.catbox.moe/zzaspp.png
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>>8368418
>>8368413
Well what magic sampler/scheduler do (you) use?
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>>8368422
Thanks
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>>8368421
would you go back to pony for whatever reason?
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>>8368421
nice, whoever she is
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Probably a shot in the dark, but does anyone have njm's lora or know where I could find them?

His Danni 2d lora and Yulia Nova were actually pretty useful to make hentai pictures back in the 1.5 days and they have a great style in general.
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>>8368424
Sorry that's reserved for my highest tier Patreons.
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How do you model merge in reforge? Like Mixing 3 models and lifting the clip out of one onto the final.
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>>8367660
on a1111 and it forks, you can edit max batch size on ui-config.json (the file is generated after 1st time you launch the UI)
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what are the other align your steps like GITS, 11 and 32 and should I care
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>>8368426
Tonguejob works better, for one thing. And if I wanted to get the exact style of her VN, feels easier on Reweik than illu or any noob mix I've tried. Maybe just keep one pony-based checkpoint in the toolbox for edge cases.

>>8368427
Thanks.
https://e-hentai.org/s/8023ffeed6/1303478-43
Although her face is off now and she looks a bit small.
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Aquamarine pill me on warmup stable decay. Does it btfo annealing schedules?
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>>8368135
Left or right?
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>>8368446
stop living under a rock and just use RAdamScheduleFree
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>>8368451
schedule free is a meme and adam is outdated
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okay i use prodigy and i like the results, i admit it
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>>8368456
there is nothing wrong with training on civit
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>adam is outdated
whatever you say, schizoot
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>>8368459
use adamcpr, ranger, compass, whatever you want, but don't pretend that things like Gradient centralization/normalization or lookahead aren't major improvements that have been made since adam.
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>>8368454
adam is still the best we got
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>>8368462
sdg reigns supreme. just gotta rebake 20 times and find the right schedule
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>>8368438
I used to use supermerger for this, but it's broken on reForge for 3 model merges. You would have to use A1111 I if you want to use it. Doesn't one of the lora training programs do that too though? I haven't used it so I can't remember.
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>>8368466
I saw some guy's workflow for comfy that he says it does that and it looks like it's just add subtract checkpiont merger so gonna try that.
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>>8368438
supermerger on a1111 or comfy, forge/reforge prob won't work correctly when doing merges
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why is this guy samefagging so hard?
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inpainting is so fucking cool, i really want to get good at this. surreal i can just take a piece of art i've always loved and gen tits onto it kek
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>>8368088
Man those hands...
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>>8368121
>eyelines dont match
fail. how many tries did this take you? Only took 1 click with NAIV4
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>>8368475
There are some amazing inpaint masters on /aco/ head over and learn from them.
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>>8368479
I wasnt sure if /aco/ fit the topic of games and anime which is all i really gen but i'll do it anyway, thanks.
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why arent you fools using video models yet
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>>8368483
they look like shit and take a long time to gen
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>>8368483
>dumb zoomers can't even look at static porn anymore
>everything has to move and be colorful and stimulate their adhd
grim
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>>8368483
>why aren't you using something that still looks like garbage AND requires an xx90 card ?!??!?!
gee
I fucking wonder
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>>8368489
*kisses your strawman on the lips*
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>>8368477
Looks like it's gonna be the same melty shit at base res as v3.
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>>8368483
>no video
heh
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>>8368496
text focused general
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>>8368498
I thought this was discord screenshot general
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>>8368500
our lolcows arent amusing anymore
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>>8368495
noice
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>>8368503
did jordach train that 1.5 model
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>>8368508
he's baking sdxl on a 4x970 rig right now, epoch 0.27 just released
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>>8368424
im aligning my steps
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>euler a
>AYS
ABSOLUTE MAD MAN
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>>8368517
>MAD MAN
he's gone, anon...
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>>8368516
Thank you for posting a gen, in these dark times of text.
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>>8368516
Box it. Im not asking.
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>>8368516
object permanence dick
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>>8368524
'fraid so
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>>8368523
https://files.catbox.moe/kfybk0.png
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>>8368528
>nyalia
nevermind please delete
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Aah.. noob's expressiveH.. my beloved.
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that image fr*ckin sucks haha
*turns to all my bros, get a bunch of hi-fives and takes a sip from my ice cold beer*
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>>8368534
Based textchad.
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>>8368534
this guy is so fucking cool
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>>8368534
I forgot how to say "based" in normie speak
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>>8368537
based is normiespeak alas
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>>8368127
box sir?
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>>8368528
box?
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>>8368557
box??
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>>8368557
it's nai
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>>8368103
good morning sir
no there are no such techs
however you can use cfg rescale 0.7 + cfg 1.5 + euler cfg++ sampler + sgm uniform scheduler with 8 steps for better quality and tiled decode if ooming and you are comfy gentleman
and base illustrious is shit, i'd recommend noob personal merge
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Can the noob ipadpater be wrangled to do outfits instead of style? I'm not having much success myself but maybe I'm doing something wrong.
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>>8368566
why are they built like failed lab mutations
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>>8368568
The steps were overaligned
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>>8368568
Now I'm curious how a successful lab mutation would look
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>>8368566
nice jacket collection
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>>8368566
I like it. Don't take it too hard, we're just fooling around.
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>>8367880
you just proved me being right
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>>8368566
Is that zaitama?
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>>8368566
pony v7 looks so good
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>>8367798
translate
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>>8367739
>>8367730
Box?
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anon... i like to use mahiro cfg, why?
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>>8368584
https://files.catbox.moe/5sl2yg.png
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>>8368586
mahiroCFG is legit snake oil, use rescaleCFG instead
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>>8368568
seems like weird proportions happen more when you go to extreme aspect ratios
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>>8368595
what values do you suggest? tried with the default 0.7 and i felt the colours a bit washed out
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>>8368595
rescaleCFG is legit snakeoil, use latent drift correction instead
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Have you guys ever tried to make a character lora of a character that has NO fanart, only their appearances on an anime? I should be able to get a fair number of reference screenshots for her, but I think I will get a style lora of the anime instead if I do.
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>>8368596
But are those actually bad proportions? If anything they seem too realistic, out of place in an anime style.
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>>8368601
you can but the style of the anime will be heavily baked in as in itll only gen in that style, iirc the copier method negates that i.e. baking a style lora of that anime into a .safetensors merging it into the desired model and then training against that model you finished merging the lora into.
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>>8368598
>tried with the default 0.7 and i felt the colours a bit washed out
default value is fine, I also feel like the colours a little worse but not enough to bother me since it also follows my prompt better
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>>8368605
Baalbuddy?
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>>8368606
Ah, I see. So I will need to make 2 loras. Which is good since I find the art style of the anime series very appealing. Thanks.
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>>8368601
One cheap way I found, aside from doing a copier lora, is assign a custom character tag but then when prompting just prompt the character's basic features like hair color, hair length, eye color instead of using the character tag you assigned. It will help with some of the style burn in.
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>>8368606
desu i've been having basically zero luck with this on illustrious
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>>8368601
I made one from a single VN, doesn't seem to be stuck with Obui's style. >>8368421
Excuse the /aco/, it's just an example.

Tag your whole dataset with whatever would normally produce that style, "anime screenshot" and maybe the show's name or animation studio. If you can't get close enough then make a lora of that style, merge it into the model temporarily and train on that instead.
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>>8368607
I see, so you use higher CFGs and then rescale cfg at 0.7? How much CFG do you use, 7? Maybe I'm using it too low at 4
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>>8368610
yeah np heres a more detailed how to using Honey Select 2 as its base
https://rentry.org/bp87n

or you could try what >>8368614 for his waifu and hope the "anime screenshot" tag has enough weight to negate the style, good luck.
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>>8368608
Yes
Baalbuddy, ratatatat74
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>>8368615
>I see, so you use higher CFGs and then rescale cfg at 0.7?
Not really, I'm using 4.5 of CFG with rescaleCFG on it's default value
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no one answered before

what does "Diffusion in Low Bits" even do, there are a bunch of options in forge and they make the image different but not significantly worse or better
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>>8368619
thanks anon, seems to be working fine, will keep testing rescale cfg but seems promising
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>>8368607
>>8368598
NTA, but the latent modifier extension has rescaleCFG built in with more options. I use rescale cfg phi set to 0.5 and combat cfg drift set to 0.8. I used to have the same thing as you folks, but the colors were too drab for me. This setup keeps the prompt following improvements and makes the colors look way better.
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>>8367698
Box pls
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>>8368622
This?
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>>8368622
Those settings? I had no idea latent modifier had those options
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>>8368387
It's comfyui, but this is the prompt:
1girl, 1boy, nagato yuki, faceless male, ugly man, netorare, aftersex, groping, curvy, alternate breast size, steaming body, blush, stealth sex, hidden sex, public indecency, grabbing, short skirt, huge breasts, (huge ass, narrow waist, thick thighs, wide hips:1.1), cumdrip, body writing, partially visible vulva,

out of frame, ass grab, fingering, used condom, tall female,

masterpiece, best quality, amazing quality, very aesthetic, absurdres, newest, (realistic:0.75), dark background, (3d:1.1), (mogudan:0.9), screencap,

[(covered erect nipples:0.95), outdoors, cameltoe, multiple views, exhibitionism, public sex, implied sex, : breath, huge nipples, (huge areola, puffy nipples, puffy areolae:0.7), (covered erect nipples:1.05), gigantic breasts, trembling, expressionless, erection, (muscular legs:1.1), heart-shaped pupils, pussy juice, trembling, orgasm, penis grab, cum on lower body, cum on legs, : 0.25]

Model is NTR
>>
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>>8368626
Yes, this. Latent modifier is really cool, you should try messing with it. I tried the additional noise stuff some times and I feel like it adds a bit of variety in gens, though I don't have any settings to share yet.
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>>8368629
this one's a lot shinier than the earlier pic
both on ntr, just a diffferent style mix?
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>>8368621
sexy heels
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>>8368639
No, last one is on pansanctuary. I like this shinier one more to be honest, although NTR does some tags better.
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>>8368635
thanks anon, seems to work fine as expected. not h image i know but nice to know that latent modifier have those settings
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>>8368641
I feel like this thread's style police conditioned me to hate shiny stuff.
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>>8368644
i dont mind shiny but ntr is just slop gloss
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>>8368644
while they probably didn't help I doubt they're what really caused it.
the more you're exposed to AI shit the more you'll begin to automatically associate it with extremely low quality, low effort garbage. It's just inevitable.
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>>8368644
I really like the game cg look of it. Really well shaded stuff by lillith or orcsoft or something like that.
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>>8368644
https://files.catbox.moe/k6qdqf.jpg
I like the shiny stuff.
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>>8368644
to be fair, jeetcore slop gens go full shiny
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>>8368648
I dont think I had the same result as yours if that was your feeling on that because I only managed to get stuff that made me feel like it had the nyalia lora baked into it at 0.8 weight, got any example?
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JESUS, BROTHERS help me. I need some catboxes with some good settings. I have been struggling.
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>>8368668
vpred isnt worth it
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>>8368668
>doesnt post any examples
>HELP
hmm. nyo
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>>8368668
struggling with what exactly?
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>>8368668
try counterfeit instead of based64
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>>8368675
Miyabi?
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>>8368677
but small, yes.
or at least, that was the goal. Tagging her on eps .5 does "something" but it's pretty still pretty much "tag features hope for the best" and then redraw features properly in post(which isn't really surprising). Also too lazy to care to bother even attempting to find a character lora so that probably didn't help.
for reference this is what I had to work with out of upscale
https://files.catbox.moe/hsdkis.png
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it's ______
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>>8368661
boxo?
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>>8368398
>sgm uniform just wins
Sorry but I do NOT align with that.
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>>8368683
youre making this ugly 1girl standing white background garbage for 200 followers on xitter? jesus...
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>>8368687
nogen?
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Would 720 x 480 be big enough to make a lora? I literally have the biggest known resolution available. There are no known highres copies. Even the Amazon japan streaming service has a lower resolution than mine.

https://files.catbox.moe/vvt74r.png
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>>8368684
MONTY PYTHON'S FLYING CIRCUS
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>>8368687
no, I made it as a catalyst for my 50/50 :^)
<https://files.catbox.moe/u9oy6e.png>
>200
try multiplying that by about 13.9
either way what does it matter. I'm under no obligation by anyone to do anything of any quality or subject matter.
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i.am.a.creative
respect me
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>>8368693
SD video is supposed to have a 4:3 aspect ratio. What you've got is DVD resolution where the pixels are slightly wider than they're tall. You should resize all your screencaps to 720 x 540, or else the LoRA you train is going to generate wide faces.
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>>8368594
Thanks
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>>8368684
drummer
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>>8368707
pretty good, mikubox pls
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why so dead
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>>8368699
Will do. Thanks.
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>>8368707
>>8368728
I didn't notice the fucked up neck kek, here is the box and the fixed version

>https://files.catbox.moe/7bo57e.png
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>>8368729
The spammers drove everyone away? Maybe /hdg/ is finally healing.
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>>8368729
the thread always takes a breather at this point
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https://files.catbox.moe/99hq8l.png
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virus link
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>>8368737
box?
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Isn't it against shitvit's ToS to include realism in a model like noob? It could easily be abused to make photorealistic loli/shota, did the retard dream team not consider that before release?
I don't personally think model makers should be held responsible for the way their users abuse the tool, but iirc shitvit's rules do.
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I made a quick and dirty artist palette
https://files.catbox.moe/zn3spm.png
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>>8368764
This has been discussed since the 1.5 days. Yes, you can include realism but whatever the user chooses to generate at the end of the day is their responsibility whether it be fake CSAM material or copying some celeb's likeness to make fakes. Yes you do get banned if you post and publish cheesy pizza looking material on their site they have an AI set up to detect that stuff and snatch it quickly.
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>>8368088
>25 plus anal tip for that roach roasted shit
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>>8368729
Gomen
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>>8368770
https://civitai.com/safety
It says on here that if a NSFW model can create photo realistic minors that's a no-no, though, don't think the responsibility is solely on the end user in civit's eyes.

Some of the rules could be seen as being purely about image generation onsite or onsite training, but then there is also:
>Prior to contributing a resource to Civitai, ensure that it does not have a tendency to produce:
>Photorealistic images of minors (under 18)
>Minors in inappropriate clothing, poses, or themes

Though I suppose you could still argue what 'tendency' means, I have a feeling a highly NSFW model with 0 dataset filtering, minors and now photorealism is pretty iffy in their safety & liability eyes.
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>>8368778
>Though I suppose you could still argue what 'tendency' means

early on someone did share a 1.5 model that was clearly finetuned of some very cheesy pizza (like made with real European cheese) so yeah they're trying to cover their tracks before they get in trouble.
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>>8368782
I suppose either way they probably wouldn't bother unless the model received multiple reports for that issue, and I'd guess no one would report something like noob for that. Still seems like a pretty dumb move to me when L-A-X seems to be shooting for high shitvit ratings/DLs for whatever reason.
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>>8368784
pretty much, its a "don't show, don't tell" situation, much like how nobody cared Palworld until someone tipped Nintendo off about the stolen assets.
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>>8368768
>artist palette
>not a single palette in any of the pics
disappointing
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>>8368761
https://files.catbox.moe/y5m6v9.png
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>>8368344
box?
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>>8368776
The moblin is clearly not happy about this arrangement.
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https://files.catbox.moe/74mpmy.png
That was a fun test.
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>>8368842
Not bad at all. Has anyone ever made a manga about a miko who was also a ninja?
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I tried using the 1980's style tag, but I can't get a single image that resembles any of the anime I watched back then. Are loras the only option?
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I came :3
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>>8368856
Try tagging an artist or show from back then.
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>>8368856
I don't know what you're doing wrong but it's not very hard.
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>>8368859
Yet you didn't see. And you did not win either.

History will not remember you.
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>>8368861
actual blast of the past...
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>>8368856
You probably used some shitmerge with the 1.5 slop look baked in.
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>>8368874
Nice gay bulge.
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>>8368875
I'll be more worried about the postition of that spear.
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>>8368815
rat
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>>8368884
*rrat
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semi-repost
the guy has 6 fingers (don't be ableist)
where's the new thread?
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>i need a new thread to post my aco garbage!
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>>8368887
>don't be ableist
no. that said, you are still too close to /aco/
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based
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New Thread:

>>8368891
>>8368891
>>8368891
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>>8368758
kowai
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nice
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>>8367802
Noibox?
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Is there like a guide to getting into this stuff for a idiot because ive tried 3 times to do this and failed and really want to create some masterpieces
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>>8368559
thanks for letting me know, but I'm using forge



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