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Highlights dead in a ditch edition

Previous Thread: >>8471460 →

>LOCAL UI
A1111: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui
Forge: https://github.com/lllyasviel/stable-diffusion-webui-forge | Alternative version (reForge): https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge
Comfy: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI

>LOCAL MODELS
Illustrious: https://civitai.com/models/795765 | https://civitai.com/models/1232765
Noob: https://civitai.com/models/833294

>RESOURCES
Wiki: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki | https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples | https://openart.ai/workflows/templates
Training: https://rentry.org/59xed3 | https://github.com/derrian-distro/LoRA_Easy_Training_Scripts | https://github.com/bmaltais/kohya_ss | https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
Tags: https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_groups | https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag
ControlNet: https://rentry.org/dummycontrolnet | https://civitai.com/models/136070
IOPaint (LamaCleaner): https://www.iopaint.com/install
Upscalers: https://openmodeldb.info
Booru: https://aibooru.online
4chanX Catbox/NAI prompt userscript: https://rentry.org/hdgcb
Pony-related: https://rentry.org/ponyxl_loras_n_stuff | https://rentry.org/ponyxl_lora_previews | https://lite.framacalc.org/4ttgzvd0rx-a6jf
Illustrious-related: https://rentry.org/illustrious_loras_n_stuff
Useful Nodes/Extensions: https://rentry.org/8csaevw5

OP Template/Logo: https://rentry.org/hdgz/edit | https://files.catbox.moe/xk99gy.png | https://files.catbox.moe/35bdt5.gif

>Related
>>>/aco/sdg
>>>/g/sdg
>>>/g/ldg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/c/kdg
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/vg/aids
>>>/b/degen
>>>/trash/sdg
>>>/u/udg
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>>8474642 (OP)
this is the gen op chose?
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>>8474642 (OP)
Excuse me I wasn't sure if you were aware but Novel AI v4 released today so it would be prudent of you to include that within the next OP template as most of the people in the thread will be migrating towards using that now.
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kek nyo nyo
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based
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>>8474647
She's riding raw meat. Guess OP was hungry or something.
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way better than last op
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>>8474647
the entire last thread was really not very good.
御免なsorry.
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I will post in the no highlights thread
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>>8474642 (OP)
Previous Thread Highlights:

TH_25-02-28_-hdg-_a.jpg
>https://files.catbox.moe/qigd86.jpg

TH_25-02-28_-hdg-_b.jpg
>https://files.catbox.moe/oetnv8.jpg
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>>8474659
kek
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the other thread has some shit highlights. I prefer this thread
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>>8474648
>most of the people in the thread will be migrating towards using that now.
How? Last I checked gift keys still aren't back so I don't think so. (you aren't paying for porn, are you?)
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its nai (noobAI)
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>>8474660
kill yourself.
specifically in a ditch.
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aaand back with the awful highlights
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>>8474663
>you aren't paying for porn, are you?
How much did your GPU cost?
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>>8474632 →
so here are outputs from civitai and tensoart
never using an online generation again
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>>8474664
proof?
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>>8474667
my gpu is for gaming pirated games
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>didn't make it in the highlights
it's so fucking over...
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>>8474668
I would guess that the CFG is set to 1
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>>8474667
by your logic, hdg isn't free either
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>>8474642 (OP)
>Highlights dead in a ditch edition
rent free
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>>8474675
>hdg isn't free either
sometimes i wish i was free from hdg
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>CSAMlights
Yikes, I suggest we enforce a gen strike to protest the unfair and dangerous usage of generative AI to create content that harms and endangers people and the promotion of such content by the highlights.
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>>8474663
your computer uses as much power as a microwave while generating
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>>8474668
ngl this looks like an actual art
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>>8474677
you and me both.... you and me both
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>>8474642 (OP)
>Highlights dead in a ditch edition
Based status?
>>8474675
What kind of ass backwards logic is this?
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>>8474673
well, not by me
but it's not about that, it just so happen that these looking like sketches
they somehow alter your generation and 90% of the time it makes it worse
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It's up.
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>>8474668
my own finetune (other post had some negatives)
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adult females
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>>8474686
What's up?
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How many anlas did you guys save up for tomorrow?
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>>8474642 (OP)
NEWS:
NAI just got dropped by their payment processor.
https://xcancel.com/andjdavies/status/1836292129666056631
PREVIOUS NEWS:
NAI fired their co-founder and main designer.
https://xcancel.com/tabloida_/status/1893055734272978958
FURTHER NEWS:
NAI implemented a hand-crafted script that rotates through payment processors as they get dropped by them, circumventing the issue.
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>>8474691
good morning claudefag, wishing you the best in your crusade against nai. it will be a tough battle today but you got this!
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How the fuck do you even "rotate multiple payment processors"?
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>>8474683
>gpu ain't free, so local gens ain't free
>pc ain't free, so hdg ain't free
it's a logical deduction
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Who is your favourite ai artist?
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Me
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>>8474696
ayakoooooooooon
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>>8474694
what if i'm a nogen and browse hdg on a school pc?
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>>8474687
leave me alone, I'm mad
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>i mean we didn't have to leave at all and they didn't want us to leave because we're a big chunk of their revenue, however they wouldn't allow us to do V4 Full, so we left
Why v4 specifically though? Didn't they resolve the issue with photorealistic shit?
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>>8474700
depends. what's your age?
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>>8474694
>running gpu at full vs browsing web is the same
holy fucking retard
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>>8474704
define what free means
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>>8474696
Solange Baron, the perfect synthesis of visual creativity and engrossing storytelling.
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why do so many artists do splatoon fanart in danbooru? Almost every time I go to the main page I see at least one from splatoon.
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Do you guys think they'll open source v3 after v4 full comes out?
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>>8474707
Inklings are cute. And it's pretty popular in Japan.
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"no" to all the posts above me
fuck you all fags
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anyone else getting absolute dogshit out of wan?
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Bros, where the fuck is it?
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>Someone asks for a pony v7 preview image
>Post it
>Janny gives me a warning for posting /co/
JANNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>8474660
oh i got in bwos
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>paying for porn
NEVER
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>>8474663
>you aren't paying for porn, are you?
You bet I am. Gotta support those indie dlsite VAs.
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>>8474691
this is yesterday's post, fillyfucker
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stay upsetti :3
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>>8474713
Sended
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>>8474719
he changed it up a little bit because he got laughed at in some of the threads so he had to make up the further news section
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>>8474660
>Have all the resources to create truly impressive art
>This is the best we can do
Maybe artists are right. Maybe we are just artistically handicapped.
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>>8474691
nai isn't even in the OP
fuck off and kill yourself you stupid fucking schizo
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>>8474708
open source never ever
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>>8474720
I'm gonna put my pinus inside your bussy.
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>>8474725
But I really want it :(
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why is it meltie
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i'm gonna buy a month of v4 and then complain about how it sucks
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its 25$
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When you guys type your posts, do you read it in your head in a cute anime girl voice?
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>>8474691
v4 DOA

https://files.catbox.moe/pjqrq3.png
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>>8474727
25$
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Here's your Pony V7.
>score_9, rating_general, style_cluster_677, Four characters are sitting on both sides of a table in a booth at a cyberpunk diner. The first character on the left in the foreground is named "Cipher". Cipher is a scrawny, androgynous ork with a cyclops visor and a teal mohawk. Cipher wears a white t-shirt under a black spiked leather biker jacket. Cipher is leaning on the table and speaking in an animated pose. The second character on the left, behind Cipher, is named "Riot". Riot is a tall female ork with brown skin, blue eyes and muscular arms. Riot's hair is short, black, in a military cut. Riot wears a torn-off denim vest over a black T-shirt. Riot has her arms crossed and is sitting back in her seat, observing the others carefully. Riot is behind Cipher in the booth. The third character, who is on the near right, "Glimmer", is a short curvy elf with long wavy blonde hair and green eyes. Glimmer wears a red trench jacket over a white tank top. Glimmer is listening intently to Cipher's story. The fourth character, "Posit", is an even shorter dwarf with fiery orange hair and star-shaped sunglasses. Posit is behind Glimmer in the booth. Posit is wearing a purple robe covered in silver stars, and he holds a scepter with a blue jewel in his left hand. Posit is distracted, looking out the window. Side view, booth, 2girls, 1boy, 1other, group scene, multiple characters, 4 characters
https://files.catbox.moe/hsn0qc.png
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>>8474729
im going to do that and purposefully make bad images with v4 to post and talk about how bad v4 is
novel ai's bankruptcy will be secured if i keep this up
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so much thiserino
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>Nai is shit why would I ever want that garbage local is superior in every way
>B-by the way do you guys think they'll make it free when the new version drops? J-Just curious haha...
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>>8474734
>Check the discord
>It's real
Astra just got lucky with v6, didn't he?
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>>8474736
can you faggot quote the post you're replying to?????
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>>8474731
everything i post i imagine it narrated by david attenborough
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>>8474737
You've just summed up /hdg/'s latest 500 threads in one post.
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I refuse to reply to any of you. Stay alone.
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>>8474743
except for me though, right...?
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>>8474743
It's still a reply without a (You), faggot.
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>>8474744
>>8474745
(you)4(you)
(you)back
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>>8474746
take my energy!!!
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>I-it's still a reply w-without a (You)!
Nope.
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>>8474746
oh nyo don't (you) put it in my backd...
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>>8474734
God-tier prompt following.
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>>8474748
Thank's for the (You), kind stranger.
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I hate this general.
It's as bad as the dragon ball general on /a/, except with less porn.
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Ok, but how are you going to upscale v4 gens? This shit would be too expensive for me at least.
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>>8474734
on one hand, it's certainly TRYING to follow all of that NL garbage.
on the other, jesus christ that looks fucking awful and this really just serves to demonstrate why you should laugh at and make fun of any retard who thinks NL is even remotely a decent idea.
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>>8474744
nah
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>>8474754
upscale it on local lol
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>>8474753
>as bad as the dragon ball general
severely doubt
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>>8474753
We can change that. Maybe I'll prompt some Bulma or Android 18 today.
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>>8474737
>>8474741
it's even funnier now because local bakers have proved that no amount of time, money and compute can make up for their incompetence with or without external forces trying to sabotage it (leeching furfaggots (all of them))
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>>8474734
Beautiful.
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>>8474734
I thought this was a dalle meme gen
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>>8474754
Have they said anywhere that they're increasing upscaling cost?
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i'm gonna pay for v4 and make multiple grids comparing multiple great local model in complex scenes with v4 to show how good v4 is.
lol jk no one is ever gonna do that
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nai shills are out in full force today for new release i see
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>>8474731
I imagine it in my own voice and with my own thick ESL accent.
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>>8474763
Nowhere.
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>>8474760
sure thing, kurukek
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>nai v4 releases
>nai shitposting increases by 10x
>nai images being posted remains constant (still zero)
who could have predicted this im shocked. SHOCKED
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>>8474760
>i-i-if we get compute and time we can beat NAI!!!
>Noob happens
>shits on the floor, can barely scrape together an okay model
>it needs a better dataset!!
>Illustrious 1.0 releases, and is somehow worse than noob
kuru was right. nobody knows how to cook
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>>8474768
What the fuck is that post about then?
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>>8474771
It didn't release yet aldoebeit.
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Fuck, I wanted to write a good bait but I forgot it just now
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>>8474773
It's bait.
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>>8474775
im making that post in preparation so i can smugly reply to it in a few hours saying that it aged well
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>>8474773
its nai
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>>8474731
only for nyoposters
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>>8474772
noob got fucked because it was ran by the fucking chinese and they just want to ram EVERYTHING in because "more is better!"
illustrious 1.0/1.1 is fucked because angel went full retard trying to do something different with increased base resolution which ended up doing a lot of weird shit. Also let's be real, the fact that it's based on kohaku is also probably a really gigantic fuckup on his end and I still don't understand why he did it when he clearly had the compute for a full base SDXL finetune.
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>100 posts
>6 images
WHAT CAUSED THE DECLINE?
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>>8474783
naiv4 releasing today. it's time for the fabled 3000 post thread
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>>8474783
NAI is releasing today bwo, relax
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What are you localkeks going to do when the epstein list gets released and right at the top it says
>"Astraliteheart"
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>>8474786
ill redownload pony, that sounds based
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>>8474772
but noob/illu is already miles better than nai
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>>8474789
>500 anlas have been removed from your account
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>>8474783
your sister's ass
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>>8474783
anons didn't have a good cock in their ass for a while
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>>8474789
oneshot gen a single gachaslut with the correct outfit on naiv4 and noob and report back
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>>8474757
>upscaling 16ch vae image with 4ch vae
Unless you mean flux, which doesn't work that well
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>>8474784
i think you might be right this time, 3k thread is here...
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>>8474783
I'm working on an image right now which will just get made fun of when I post it here but I'll post it anyway, it'll be a bit.
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>>8474795
the 16ch vae on v4 is effectively a 4ch vae for anything that isn't text.
Sounds weird. It is weird. I don't understand how they fucked it up either, but it is what it is and let's not pretend it's actually better than that.
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If NAI v4 is just NAI v4 currated but it can do benis and begina now, would you be disappointed?
The quality of NAI v4 currated is honestly WAY bellow noobai
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>>8474794
doesn't matter, the meltiness and lack of details won't go away
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>>8474801
>bellow
why are you yelling
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>>8474799
anonie was right and low param models just can't support a 16ch vae. just not enough space to store all the details
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>>8474801
v4 curated is an absolute fucking joke
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>>8474802
>bad and objectively worse character reproduction means noob is uhh uhh... BETTER!!!
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>>8474801
>If NAI v4 is just NAI v4 currated but it can do benis and begina now
joke's on you, it's actually worse than v4 curated.
v4 curated had an increased amount of character knowledge due to being a smaller dataset. v4 full has e621 and a lot of faceless smut so it's going to perform worse on average for anything SFW.
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>>8474801
currated looks like shit but that's because they haven't trained on 80% of the dataset which is all NSFW images
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>>8474735
nah i have no faith in nai so im sure it will suck without disinfo
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>>8474769
>p*ny (/aco/slop piss hell)
>illu 0.1 (showed promise but it was based on fucking kohaku)
>noob (completely mismanaged, further fucked up by furshit also the "b-b-b-but lax is a furry too chuddie" cope was incredibly funny)
>illu 1.0 (completely borked)

DISHONORABLE MENTION:
>cascade (40k and compute down the drain)
LOLCOW MENTION:
WDXL (LMAAAAAOOOOOOOO)
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i can make burnice with nai v4 so local lost regardless
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>>8474806
enjoy your character reproduction with shitty details and lack of aesthetic. oh and don't get me started with fucked up style mixing
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CF, please calm down, your blood pressure.
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your lora, sir?
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I think we should post images.
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>>8474799
it's literally flux's vae with zero modifications though
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all you need is sd 1.4, a lora, and a cold beverage
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no don't do that
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>>8474817
All you need is pencil and a piece of paper.
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didnt need loras back in the day with a trusty sears catalog, just saying
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if only jordach didn't run away with our best local model, then we wouldn't be in this situation
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kek no argument huh?
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jordach status?
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I accept your concession.
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where nai 4
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>Trans women are the best at machine learning
>All the big corpos already snatched them up
>Local is left with autistic men
Every fucking time.
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I'm dying
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>>8474810
>WDXL
whatever happened to that?
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>>8474828
I feel like the demographic for this bait is too obtuse anon, I'd retool it a bit more.
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>>8474827
In a few hours!
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>>8474828
>Trans women out of nowhere
Wanna talk about it lil bud?
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>>8474828
nice try neggles but we're still not hiring you
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I accept ALL your concessions
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>>8474833
it all started when astralite took my pony
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>>8474836
bro your bot is malfunctioning
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>>8474832
HOLY FUCK IT'S REAL
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do you guys remember when astralite came in here and laughed at us
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>>8474839
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Localsisters, our responce?
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All memeing aside, I unironically think animagine v4 mogs every other model.
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Can I get a Jordach health check please? I feel like it's been ages since I've gotten an update on the little fella.
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>>8474842
it's okay to be retarded
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>Sir Solangeanon not in the highlights & MIA over 24 hours
b-bros.. starting to worry NyatoraSCAM dev got to him..
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today you will apologize to sir kurumuz
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Never really realised just how many of the regulars from the /vg/ gacha generals that posted here but I guess it makes sense
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>>8474849
Wait, I thought this site is anonymous?
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remember when the glowniggers came here and posted a model trained on actual csam from the country where most of the world's supply of csam comes from? you know, the one who won't be joining NATO (L M A O)
good times
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>lil bro think he figured all this out
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by my calculations, this thread is going to hit 5400
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>>8474855
too bad they usually get tuckered out after about 1-2 hours of this and have to take a nap which is when those pesky img posters come out like cockroaches
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>>8474834
Neggles cycle:
>Get hired by AI corpo
>Build their infrastructure
>Steal their compute without permission
>Do nothing with it
>Get fired
I think that happened like 3 times
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>>8474853
kurumuz...
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I have so much compute at home I have green diarrea
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>>8474859
i have regular diarrhead and i don't know how to stop it anymore
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>>8474858
Turkey is part of NATO.
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>>8474860
>>8474861
look at this guy with 2 ips
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>>8474860
so this is the power of GIMP...
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>>8474853
Why would Israel join NATO
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>>8474866
it's not gimp, it's pure regional prompting skills
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>>8474861
>>8474860
Wish it was my girlfriend showing me her last date
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>>8474861
When will AI learn that putting bed in the prompt doesn't mean the entire bed has to be on frame. I'm so tired of these mini beds can I put pillow in negatives or something
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>>8474865
it's a 4chan pass and photoshop, i have a job
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>>8474871
we need a bedroom concept lora
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>>8474853
>they don't remember
who the fuck are you people where are the early 2023 regulars
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>>8474860
look at her raging hard-on, yummy
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if you don't stop shitposting, i'm gonna post loli face pressed into the blackest smelliest cock known to man
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>>8474875
Hi.
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>>8474877
you won't lmao
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>>8474873
use some of that money from your grown up boy job to get photoshop lessons please
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>>8474878
OH NONONONONO
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>>8474880
hmmm, nyo
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What tags would I use to showcase the expression on the face of the janny when he reads through these threads before mass deleting all these text posts?

What about the face he makes after he deletes them?
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Guys stop talking about random stuff, NAI v4 is dropping tomorrow!
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>>8474518 →
RNG god gave me tis one
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>>8474883
it's a janny, any greater effort than an angry basedjak is wasted
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>>8474885
nice
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>>8474886
daddy longlegs
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>>8474886
impressive
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>>8474810
>noob
GOAT that destroys both naiv3 and naiv4, and it's not even close.
>cascade (40k and compute down the drain)
It was ~8 or 9k though?
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>>8474891
it was 40k
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why would you post this?
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>>8474708
They said v2 someday v3 no plans to at the moment. Can check the Discord just search "no plans to release v3."
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>>8474894
its nai
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>1 man, pale skin, out of frame, huge penis,
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>>8474876
is this what you want you fucking faggot? >>>/d/11242223
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>>8474892
Proof? There was one retard that donated several thousand and he was like 80% of donations collected. You are making shit up.
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>>8474900
kind of cute but holy fuck im never clicking on a link to that thread again what the fuck is that shit in there
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Probably not the best place to ask, but as I'm here, any of you gusy know of a decent model for realistic / photo like gens? I tested bigasp 2 and it was dogshit.
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>>8474904
unironically /aco/ would be way better to ask
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>>8474902
yeah its pretty fucking bad
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>>8474898
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>>8474904
/aco/ has a specific thread for photorealism
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>>8474907
>>8474910
Oh, thanks guys
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>>8474902
come on it can't be that bad...
ok, maybe I'm wrong. abort, abort
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>>8474912
remember how anon complained about too much muscle on /y/
this is the other side of it, 1boy (female) standing
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>>8474886
her face isn't pressed into it though, try again
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https://huggingface.co/KBlueLeaf/EQ-SDXL-VAE
thinkies?
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>>8474917
>This model is heavily finetuned from SDXL-VAE and introduce a totally new latent space. YOU CAN'T USE THIS ON YOUR SDXL MODEL.
DOA
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>>8474917
isn't this incompatible with any current models? that's what the readme says at least
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>>8474917
16ch
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>>8474917
It wilds how local always uses outdated architectures instead of trying to innovate and use the latest and greatest
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>>8474917
>16ch
>can't use it on current models
alright...
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>>8474923
well nai tried a new arch and look how it turned out for them...
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>>8474926
Hard to tell how it turned out since the model you might have in mind runs on a 20% of the total database.
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losted bigly
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>>8474917
i don't see any differences can you point me them with red arrows?
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Somebody tell me the prompt to make these whores eat ass. I don't want to use a Lora.
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>>8474931
Well, if you stop calling them whores and call them Queen instead, the latent space will bless you
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>>8474931
i was going to help you until that final sentence

retard
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>>8474917
I remember seeing kohaku saying that this vae is easier to insert into existing models. I think it's on twitter or laion discord
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>start training on unet only
>loras are much better

uhhh why did anyone train on TE again? This is a magic level of improvement dropping it
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>retard
no u
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>change style mix i've been using somewhat drastically
>some characters suddenly are barely recognized and previously barely recognized characters are now accurate
huh
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>>8474941
I warned you all about training the TE. I warned you.
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>>8474941
Stop frying TE you stupid anin
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>>8474941
Only people that give training advice here these days are "creatives". People that could do more than adamw and pray left ages ago or are trolling here now
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>>8474943
>he moved to a different location in latent space
>model behaves differently
wow!!!
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>>8474946
AdamW is unironically all you need.
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>>8474947
c-can you get lost in latent space?
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>>8474941
training what exactly
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>>8474948
whatever you say mr. creative
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>>8474951
did you not align your steps?
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>>8474947
If you're mean to me again I'm telling on you.
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moved a belly button in photoshop today, am i an artist yet?
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>>8474952
a lora
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>>8474941
TE training was significantly better on pony since that shit was FRIED and was also EXTREMELY undertrained on most of the shit you'd be introducing to it.5
on illustrious base training is finnicky as shit to begin with for random weird reasons and training TE has equal chance of working well or making things worse and it depends heavily on just what it is you're training(and there's no real way to predict which will be better).
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>gen 1boy, 1 girl
>2 boys show up
billions must die
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>>8474958
don't sass me young lady, you know what i'm asking
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>>8474959
TE training is just for if you want text understanding right? So the part at the beginning describing the image in plain english.

My experience is just giving up on that entirely and focusing on tags and controlnet is far better
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>>8474946
you seem rather upset
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>>8474962
>TE training is just for if you want text understanding right?
no
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>>8474946
>left ages ago
mediafire anon is still here doe?
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>>8474962
wrong
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How do i know if a controlnet is illustrious-compatible?
I used kohya_controllllite_xl_blur [22117d11] and it refuses to work with illustrious-based sdxl checkpoints.
I get this error
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>>8474965
so he's retarded
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>Compare TE to UNET, it is fair to say "TE training is just for if you want text understanding right? So the part at the beginning describing the image in plain english."

Your description captures part of the picture, but let’s break it down a bit further:

Text Encoder (TE):
The TE’s primary job is to convert a text prompt—say, “a beautiful sunset over the mountains”—into a vector of numbers (an embedding) that represents the semantic meaning of that text. Essentially, it “understands” the prompt and translates it into a form the model can work with. While it does handle what you might call “text understanding,” its role is critical in aligning the text’s meaning with the image generation process.

U-Net:
The U-Net, on the other hand, is the workhorse that generates the actual image. It takes the encoded text information along with the latent image representation and iteratively denoises it to form a coherent picture. The U-Net is where most of the image synthesis magic happens—it learns to map those embeddings into detailed visual content.

Training Considerations in LoRA:
In LoRA (Low-Rank Adaptation) training, you often have the option to fine-tune either the U-Net, the TE, or both. Most of the heavy lifting for image details comes from the U-Net. Fine-tuning the TE (text encoder) is typically considered if you want to adjust how the model interprets certain phrases or domain-specific language. However, many training pipelines keep the TE frozen because it’s already robust at understanding general text, and altering it can sometimes destabilize the delicate alignment between text and image.

So while your statement is somewhat on target—TE training is indeed about enhancing text interpretation—it's more than just “describing the image in plain English.” It’s about ensuring that the encoded text effectively guides the U-Net to produce images that accurately reflect the intended meaning.
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>>8474970
it's occultsage
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>>8474971
actual assistance in /hdg/? last of a rare breed...
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anyone still using A1111 in 2025?
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>naiggers afraid to offend their overlords
kek
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>>8474938
That I don't want to use a Lora? Loras are cheating.
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>lora captures the artstyle faithfully but completely kills gen variety
Another day, another failbake
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>>8474962
no. TE is trying to teach the model what thing is what.
You can make a TE only lora and achieve similar sets to a unet only lora, with the exception that it'd be significantly easier to fry out(since the TE is pretty fragile).
There's a lot of weird shit that could be gotten into with TE training.
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>>8474974
wan....
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>>8474933
How do I teach these queens to eat ass?
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When inpainting, what setting should I tweak if I get this occurring? It's like a glow around the inpaint area.
It usually happens whenever trying to inpaint anything dark like night scenes or black pantyhose. I can fix it alright in Photoshop afterwards but it would be nice if there was an easy way to make it not happen in the first place.
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>>8474982
mask feather
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>take my 25$ and let me use the downgraded version of your already subpar model
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bros do i bite his bait?
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why are localsissies melting down already
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>>8474986
bite his balls instead
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Because they know their precious software will be made useless in mere hours
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bros i literally couldn't sleep thinking about v4
i'm so happy rn fr
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>>8474983
I feel retarded, I don't even see that option. That's different than mask blur, right?
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First one to post v4 gen gets to stay in my thread.
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dont worry bros we'll have a local model on par with v4 about a month before v5 releases
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>>8474978
Should you train the TE if you want the LoRA to have a unique word as an activation trigger? I see a lot of people on Civitai baking with trigger words, but I'm pretty sure they're not necessary.
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I'm not your "bro"
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>>8474969
Have you tried it with other checkpoints? I would guess not illustrious' fault, it's kohya's llllite bullshit. Needs a separate node in Comfy, which means it needs separate handling in Forge too and might not be supported anymore. It's obsolete crap that nobody used for over a year, if ever.
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s-sister?
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>on par with v4
uh why would I want a worse model?
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>>7900406
>Funny how before pony released, anyone mentioning glossy aomslop was deemed a naishill. Same thing will happen with pony. Once a better local model releases, everyone will jump ship and will just speak up how fucking sloppy and dull pony looked and just laugh at anyone using it. But if you mention it now you're a schizo and a naishill.
How true was this?
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>>8474996
on par with v3*
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>>8474992
literally me fr bro
and then i wake up and it's not out yet wtf
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>>8474997
you should always train the te
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>>8475003
>03/19/24
prophetic desu
>speak up how fucking sloppy and dull pony looked and just laugh at anyone using it.
literally what happens now with ayakon kek
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>>8475004
catower is already miles better than v3
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>How true was this?
why do we have xitter tier necro-quotes in this thread now
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>>8475009
gotta own the localkeks before the v4 crash
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>>8475003
Within like a month of Pony's release (IE before that post was made) people were already calling it too desaturated, too /aco/ etc. but it still holds true none the less
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>scat tower
hmm nyo
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do videofags really cream their pants over this?
https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/1izokd6/wan_is_impressive/
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>>8475012
But those were all paid NAI shills. Pony was absolutely perfect, a beautiful and powerful model.
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>4chantower
mmmh nyes
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>>8475003
The naishill part? 100% true it seems.
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>>8474984
so much this I'm cumming
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>>8475015
No, I cream my pants over this instead
>>8474042 →
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>>8475015
people jerk off to AOM slop in 2023 ,this is same
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>>8475022
no way, gens are melting temporally now too!
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>>8474999
>I would guess not illustrious' fault, it's kohya's llllite bullshit.
No, i haven't tried other illustrious-based checkpoints yet since the one i use it pretty good but i would say this is the issue.
I guess everyone here is using the controlnet checkpoints from the civitai OP link.
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>>8475022
how to do that?
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>>8475023
people jerk off to AOM slop in 2025 bro
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>>8475026
its nai
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how many posts itt are made by cf-kun
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>>8475028
no way to do it in local even if it took 200h?
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>>8475030
all the ones i dislike
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>>8475030
all the ones i like
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>>8475028
I say this in my sleep
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>>8475023
>>8475027
>""""people"""
indians
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How expensive is upscaling on nai for 2x upscale? How much can opus get you?
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>>8475038
>2x upscale
not allowed
>How much can opus get you
a couple of 1.5x upscales
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what did she mean by that?
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>>8475038
the max is 1.5 if you upscale through enhancing (img2img) and costs 10 anals minimum to smooth out inpainting seams and ~15 for actually adding details
the regular shitty upscaler costs 7 anals but they're supposedly training a new one
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>>8475046
>the max is 1.5 if you upscale through enhancing (img2img) and costs 10 anals minimum to smooth out inpainting seams and ~15 for actually adding details
the regular shitty upscaler costs 7 anals but they're supposedly training a new one
are the nai posters itt really never heard about the api extension that was linked in the OP or those are just false flag posts
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https://files.catbox.moe/ozeqha.png
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>>8475048
there are no real nai users itt, they are shitposters
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>>8474997
it "depends."
technically speaking it isn't actually required. It may work better with the TE enabled but you can get activation triggers to work perfectly fine without training the TE.
Weird as it sounds it's usually better to have the TE on for a trigger word the model already knows and recognizes(like, say, an artist that you want to train a better lora for than what the model can produce without one), since the TE has an amount of influence on the output image(and training the TE would, ideally, correct that in a direction you prefer).
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>>8475051
i used it for 3 months so not sure if you could count me as such, but reading the OP really shouldn't be that hard, right? nai link was there for a long time
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>>8475046
>>8475038
going by 15 anals per upscale it's 666 upscales a month
>>8475048
>are
have, esl. have.
also you can only use GAN upscalers on local unless you want to hiresfix a nai image with a local model
in which case LOL, LMAO even
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>>8475054
No, you're not a real NAI user if you're not subbed to it indefinitely! Troll
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>8475055
so yeah it was a bait after all
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>>8475048
>or those are just false flag posts
it's claudefag
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>Announces release tomorrow
>Tomorrow arrives
>No release
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>>8473827 →
Thanks for sharing. What is the dataset and settings for a lora like that? I've only done artist styles so far.
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>>8475059
complain when tomorrow ends
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That's cool and all, but still not subbing.
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>>8475059
It's still 18:00 PM in Turkey, there is still time.
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>>8475025
Pretty much.
anytest, promax union and noob ipadapter
all the others feel unnecessary now
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>I'm gonna greentext surely that will show him!
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Can't wait for the peak organic posting, this is gonna be fun.
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What is the difference between NAI v4 currated and NAI v4 full?
>dataset cutoff updated by 1 month
>NSFW
>img2img
>vibe transfer

Is this enough for you to buy a subscription?
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>>8475065
Umm Xinsir?
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>>8475064
They're on US time.
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>>8475072
But nsfw ai images are banned in the US?
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>>8475074
Tell that to civitai.
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>>8475070
Inpainting at 1024x!!!
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>>8475077
woah, subbed :)
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>>8475071
xinsir is his username
he's the one who made promax union
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NaiV4 Full Reportedly sports Improved NSFW Performance and Broader knowledge!

What is your take on this tidbit of information?
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>>8475090
I Cuumed
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>>8475090
That as usual local is years behind, freetard cannot innovate while disruptive startups keep pushing the boundary forward.
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>>8475046
This sounds so confusing. I only used local. Why would there be inpainting seams while doing img2img and wtf does adding details means.
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>>8475060
it's using the copier method/difference training or whatever so there's two datasets. the first one was a bunch of koikatsu screenshots using characters with the default shaders, the second dataset was those same characters but wearing pantyhose/thighhighs with modified shaders that have visible texturing and normal maps and whatever
then i trained a lora with the first dataset, merged it with illustrious, and trained a lora with the second dataset on that merge
im pretty sure i could get a better version of it with a different shader configuration and selection of textures but that's a lot of experimenting that i don't want to fuck with
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>Anyone I disagree with is a shitposter
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>model not released yet
>meltie already
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>If I advertise for NAI enough, maybe I'll get some free anlas!
>Oh no! This is an anonymous board!
Genius.
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What caused?
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>>8475098
you lost and got r*ped claudefag
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>>8475094
NAI is just SO fucking shit. To be able to inpaint at all, you have to send Kurumuz a photo of your asshole. And then, every inpaint costs 100 anlas. Paypigs are insane, right?
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>>8475098
fuckin nai astroturfers. i hate them so much! fucking shills grrr
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>>8475094
>why would there be inpainting seams while doing img2img
you read that wrong, you enhance (basically img2img but optionally at 1.5x) to *also* smooth out inpainting seams
>wtf does adding details mean
it's img2img therefore you can add noise that will hopefully translate into extra detail after denoising
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So NAI v4 full is still not out judging by the lack of high quality images in this thread?
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does anyone else find nai falseflaggers to be kind of...cute?
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no
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>naikek still coping with muh falseflags falseflag
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>>8475077
What do you mean?
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>>8475105
But why would there be inpainting seams on non upscaled image.
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>naishill thinks if he falseflags long enough people will believe him
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>>8475107
box?
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this kills the girl
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>>8475113
https://x.com/YuuriAmemiyaP/status/1893760014940029378
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>>8475116
because inpainting either introduces noise in the whole image OR you can have it only affect the inpaint area at the cost of visible seams
the first option isn't too bad if you have to fix very few and/or minor things but if you have to do another pass on top then you'll probably want to switch to the second
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>they waited more than a year just to add functionality that was already available on webui
a fucking joke
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>>8475065
>anytest, promax union and noob ipadapter
I suppose these are all-purpose controlnet checkpoints? I'll check them out, thanks anon!
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>>8475120
I will now pay for your product
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>>8475120
damn thats really impressive
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If a gooner keeps commenting "BLACKED PLS!!!" on all of your images, do you comply or just block him?
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>>8475120
huh, this is actually how invoke does inpainting
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who here runs more than 1 patreon grief account, raise your hand
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>>8475130
You can also just ignore him.
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what did I say?
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>>8475125
You fucking wish your snake oil regional prompter was half as good as NovelAI's inbuilt spatial aware generation, localjeet.
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>>8475123
But I just asked for upscaling. I know how inpainting works unless it's way different than on local. I just want to know how much can I do of: 1024x gen > 1.5x upscale > inpainting face/bad hands, with opus subscription. And you can't upscale more than 1.5x in any way?
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>>8475123
I guess that's a downside of NAI inpainting being stuck to 1.0 denoise.
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https://litter.catbox.moe/2v0d9j.jpg
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Can we ramp up the organic posting a little?
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>>8475118
here bwo
https://litter.catbox.moe/889946.png
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>Still have about ~9000 anlas left from when I tried out v3 and didn't like it
Guess these will come in handy now.
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>>8475143
based! looking forward to your images
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>>8475146
Thanks, but I mostly post on r/animemes
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>>8475133
I would bu patreon banned me
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>>8475148
let me guess the reason
children?
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>>8475147
You have to go back.
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yeah good luck spending that 9k in under 2 hours
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How do I make my images look less like AI? I feel like there's something I could do in Photoshop, but I don't know exactly what.
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>>8475150
Chireiden
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>>8475150
I don't have children
I posted a picture of a girl squirting and getting strangled and they said it was too violent
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>>8475151
I'll take redditards over your shitting griftnigger buddies from india and ziggerland.
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>>8475153
Put ai-generated in negs.
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>>8475153
Stop using shitmixes, stop using cyberfix, stop using bad artists, stop being shit at prompting.
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>>8475126
anytest is like a mix of canny, normals and depth, no preprocessor, great for transferring composition while ignoring style. At lower strengths even from anime images to real porn and vice versa.

union is an everything controlnet that adjusts to whatever you feed it, preprocessed canny lines, depth map, openpose skeleton, etc and it can also work as tile.

ipadapter is technically not a controlnet at all, just reusing the same UI. It's like a poor man's NAI vibe transfer, grabbing concepts and style from the reference images.
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>>8475138
it IS way different, it's infill inpainting with an actual inpainting model.
the answer is not much btw because inpainting costs quite a bit at non-free resolutions, the optimal way to do it is to fix stuff before you 1.5 upscale (or you can do it via the webui extension but then you're adding more steps on top to smooth out the seams if you don't want to introduce noise)
>you can't upscale more than 1.5x
from 1024x1024 or resolutions with an equivalent pixel count? no, not unless (i think you can, never tried it) use the shitty GAN upscaler on top but again they're probably training a new one, the current one sucks.
the alternative is to get at higher resolutions (expensive but worth it) then inpaint via the extension for free and smooth shit out yourself (or again, single pass that introduces some noise that you probably won't notice)

diffusion is expensive
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>>8475156
thats very odd, I've made stuff much worse than that and the only thing they got me a warning (not a ban) was making the ddlc characters in school uniforms while being at school
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>>8475120
Lemme guess, none of that usage is "free" and will cost more anlas the more you add to the tinkering?
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>>8475155
Based, Parsee is my wife.
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>>8475165
finetune said it's free
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>he wants to pass his ai shit as hand-drawn
yeah I'm not helping this faggot
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>>8475153
Post an example
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>>8475170
That would be great, let's see if it's true.
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>>8475038
NAI only supports 1.5X upscale through Enhance and 4X upscale through built-in upscaler. The latest option costs 7 anlas points for each generation. An Opus subscription grants 10K Anlas points monthly. Use some maths. >>8475163
Can you post a link to this inpainting extension for NAI?
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>>8475174
it's the old api extension that got taken out of the op along with anything nai
https://github.com/Metachs/sdwebui-nai-api
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videos still are not good, I will wait another few months

If you waste your time with this shit now it will be like when you threw out every base SD1.5 gen for the nai leak and then SDXL based models
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>I'M GONNA UPSCOOOOLE
what causes such mental illnis?
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>>8475172
damn son you talented no homo
how do you cook so good? share the prompt with the boyz
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This, upscaling is a meme, there's no reason to go above the base resolutions.
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>v4 has no artist mixing
>getting dropped by every payment processor
>employees jumping ship
nai losteding this bigly is delicious schneedenfeed
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the following tags are useless:

navel
midriff
lips
breasts (ones like "large breasts" -are- useful)

start pruning them from your character loras, it tells you nothing unique about any given image and just fucks with your loras ability to do stuff like from behind
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>>8475186
Actual retard.
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>>8475182
disgusting n-word dialect, never reply to me again
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>>8475188
who are you?
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>>8475187
More likely just has limited information
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>>8475185
so much this I just came
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>>8475187
every image of your 1girl has likely has "lips" and every front facing image likely has "breasts".

Booru tags however are not consistent and if half of your images have the breasts and lips tag and others don't, your model will fuck up trying to learn a difference between two images that are the same thing
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>>8475189
Isn't it like 19:00 in turkey
>>
good morning ladies
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>>8475195
Unless you are genning /aco/, you usually will not have lips. You just don't understand how tags work.
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>>8475195
>every image of your 1girl has likely has "lips"
Wait so you're actually retarded. Just go browse the tag and then browse some pics without it and notice the difference.
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>>8475195
actually i'm convinced but what you are noticing is that booru tagging sucks and is consistent.
So the actual solution is to retag all your images properly, but unless it's you are waifu I doubt many people can be bothered with such things
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The only retard here is (You).
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>>8475196
he is in japan
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>>8475188
why so mad bruh, is your prompt state secret?
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>>8475189
Can this retard just hit the button already
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>it's out
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>>8475205
Your cock?
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can confirm I just let a big one
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>>8475205
Your prolapse?
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>>8475206
our cock
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>endless meaningless screenshots
reminds me of the cascade days
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still better than nogens
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>>8475212
Don't worry you'll have a flood of 1024x slops in about 5 hours.
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Jordach status???????!
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Thats I am hateing nogens too!
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>>8475215
found dead in his new 40k USD fursuit
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1 M pixel is all you need with the power of the 16ch VAE
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why so mad?
>>
It's NAI.
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Something tells me that the West has fallen.
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>>8475218
>looks at the preview gens posted on Twitter and Cord so far
>all look sloppy
Hmm, not sure I trust this.
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its blurry
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>>8475214
You've said this for like 20 times already. Nobody's gonna post images here after a day or two. Maybe nobody will and it's just gonna be a 3k text post thread.
We have a local model that most posters here would kill for half a year ago and nobody's posting anything anyway.
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groidscatspammersaaaar is shitting himself
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>>8475223
Most of them didn't use any artist tags which makes any kinds of pic look plain awful.
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>this newfag isn't familiar with the power of naishilling
You'll see soon enough.
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>>8475226
>nobody's posting anything anyway.
the risk of highlightfag turning my gens into some uninspired op is too high, nevermind ending up in the highlights next to ayakon
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Do you think we'' ever get an AI that is good at generating images?
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>>8475228
Sounds like an excuse to me, but we'll see.
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>the majority of people make shitty local images
>LOCAL IS DEAD
>the majority of people make shitty nai images
>NAI IS DEAD
>the majority of people are shitty at everything
noticing a pattern here
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>>8475232
yeah, v4 releases in a few hours
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>>8475235
you will notice all the best posters use local, SAAS is cope for beginners to get slightly better results
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>>8475153
as someone who managed to fool quite a few artists on twitter including some very big ones, and the fucking ceo of shift up (the guys behind nikke and stellar blade) you want to avoid using shitmixes as much as you can since they have that horrible shiny skin ai look which for some reason civitjeets love. and you want to use loras instead of built in artist tag for the most part since they tend to have a stronger effect and look a lot more closely to the actual artist if they're trained correctly especially when mixing.you can add some noise to your pics in photoshop by going to filter>noise which makes it look more "real" but i hate using it/seeing it in pics
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>>8475236
Came here to say this. Remember to subscribe now before the site gets overwhelmed by all the requests.
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everyone moved to pixiv/patreon already
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>>8475238
>you can add some noise to your pics in photoshop by going to filter>noise which makes it look more "real" but i hate using it/seeing it in pics
> but i hate using it/seeing it in pics
whys that
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>>8475238
>using loras
noob/illustrious keks in shambles
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>>8475153
Draw over them
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>>8475237
My favorite images, both that I saved from other posters and mine are still NAIv3 though. Local is fine now but it just still doesn't have the looks.
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>>8475239
already did it yesterday! i'm so hyped!!
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IT'S OUT
https://x.com/novelaiofficial/status/1895311689022873716
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>>8475242
Your meds?
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>>8475242
lora has always been the ultimate solution for style
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its nai
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>>8475247
>asks random users to test if their system works
L M A O
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this will go down as the worst rollout of a saas product in history of mankind they are fumbling so hard it is over for this company
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nai already wonned though
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>>8475247
BASEEEEEED
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Will Kurumuz Himself arrive to confirm the death of local?
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nai already wonned when I gave them my precious 25$
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base
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>>8475255
I'm here.
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>v4
finally, a model that could potentially come close to Noob
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>>8475241
NTA, but noise is gross.
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Feeling cheesy today?
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I don't understand why we can't just enjoy our model of choice without being mean to other people
Like, 25$ is a lot for some third worlders, there's nothing wrong with them having fun with local generation
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>paying for porn
K W A B
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>>8475261
easiest way to make it not look like ai though, real artists add noise and ai images come out too clean so without noise they all look like pony slop
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nai is like pony in that they had one good model for the time in the original leak and everything else has been mediocre garbage showing they don't actually know what they are doing and lucked out
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>>8475264
Umm aktually you can also generate SFW art with it.
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i pay because nai is the only company i can trust
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>>8475263
Fuck off, poorfag saasjeet. I am a localchad, I paid a hundred bucks for my 1060. That's like 4 of your NAIs.
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25$ is like a McDonald's meal for one person, you all really are making a big fuss about that?
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sure thing kurukek
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Local bros.. i-i though we were winning??
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>>8475272
this is doctered btw
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>food analogies
KEKYPOW
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>>8475270
jesus christ fatass go on a diet
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>>8475270
>for one person
it's a quarter of a meal for an american
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Oh yeah, now we're getting somewhere.
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>>8475272
poor cf
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>food analogy
sigh
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>>8475270
Third world general, tard.
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>>8475272
Local is always the least popular option in anything like this related.
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3k! 3k! 3k!
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>>8475263
It's human nature, we'll always be fighting over something or other.
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>>8475282
don't show the visits to civit
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only 3k? that's too low
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>>8475285
civitai is a SaaS website
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I still haven't heard a single good argument against nai outside of
>P-paying for porn l-lol....
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>>8475285
this, I'm a localchad and gen everything at civitai
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>>8475263
You have to understand that this is a e-mental asylum for coomers.
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where are the gens?
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>>8475279
>>8475274
......
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>>8475288
>argument for paying for AI slop
kek mentality
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if you haven't heard of them maybe try cleaning up your fucking ears?
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>>8475288
Local is less limited than nai
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>>8475241
largely this >>8475261
you don't really need it if your style mix is quite simple/isn't too shiny/detailed. I only really recommend it if your style is a pretty generic semi ai looking one even though the pics with noise tend to do better than ones without it numbers wwise on twitter/x.but it just looks ugly to me in most cases

>>8475242
you can get away with using built in artists but why do that when loras do a much better job?
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>>8475292
how do you have access to such information? are you kurumuz, perchancehaps?
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>>8475294
Based good hygiene enjoyer.
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>>8475296
Less limited in making ugly unaesthetic slop maybe
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>>8475292
All memeposting aside, why? I would understand this growth for v4 release, but why are so many using nai NOW. V3 is out for a long time. V4 isn't out. Why 10s of thousands decide to use it?
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>>8475291
the thread is going to be unusable for the next 3 days or so
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>>8475300
So true!
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>>8475272
now post the stats for localhost
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>>8475297
>if your style mix is quite simple/isn't too shiny/detailed
>I only really recommend it if your style is a pretty generic
how are simple styles not generic too? i guess noise doesnt make sense for if you are just doing sketch styles on a white background but that sounds pretty generic to me
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>>8475288
it's 2025
why would you pay for completely impersonal porn?
The only reason people pay for onlyfans shit is because they might actually know the person behind the account. But AI shit? You can already do this shit acceptably on local without paying $25 a month so what's the point?
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>>8475272
anon if you go outside and talk to people you would know that the majority of people do not have gpu that are capable of running ai locally and to them paying for a service is much better than dealing with the hassle of setting up python
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>>8475301
The announcement from some weeks ago probably made more people return and/or check it out for the first time
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So... not today then, right?
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>>8475301
The only one working on /h/ Sota is NAI4. Pony7 is in a hopeless situation.
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>>8475310
Stop spreading FUD maybe?
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>>8475293
>>8475306
This is still the same "argument", but keep going
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>>8475309
But this is from November. Also how do they have the capacity? Don't they have like 10 a100s? I thought they were some small company in Turkey, the discord has like 10 active dudes, how are they pulling these numbers?
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>impersonal
What causes this?
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>>8475313
I don't need an argument for something so stupid as paying for AI slop
keep crying wwww
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>>8475313
and your argument "for" NAI is
>b-but I can generate my generic waifu hentai!
Which you can already do on local.
Wow.
Amazing.
fsugoi.
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>>8475314
I visit their site a hundred times a day to get new bait
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yeah I can also use inspect element, faggot
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when can we expect nai v4 images to start being posted? can someone reply to this post so i get notified to check the thread again
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>>8475317
>b-but I can generate my generic waifu hentai!
i say this
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how do i make scales look more textured/thick/3dimensional?also i generated random artist mix with a wildcard, which artist that dosen't do anything should i delete?
https://files.catbox.moe/gcku08.png
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Release that model, if you're so great
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To put it clearly, if NAI4 continues to generate without any limits and does not get banned, it will be below the local costs in the Flux generation. Additionally, I would like to add that currently, there are no plans to release Sota except for NAI4.
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>STILL no argument besides "$25 dollars is a fortune in my local dying currency"
Okay I guess I'll never know then
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>>8475323
>tell me how to run my life
no
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These stats are high-key interesting. Everyone uses this shit on their phone then comes Japan lmao. Also, almost 3 million visits from Koreans? Nai doesn't even have a Korean interface, only English and Japanese words work. How did nai pull Koreans?
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>>8475305
by simple i meant more of a less shaded style with less details which doesn't mean a simple flat color anime pic. You'd be surprised at how much of a unique style you can get by not using the top 100 danbooru artists
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>>8475328
>How did nai pull Koreans?
Extreme grifting culture.
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>>8475328
>korea by far the second dominant country
>nai only panders to japanese
hmmm
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nice larp
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>>8475317
>fsugoi.
Don't you dare utter the sacred words, localslopper.
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>>8475328
Koreans are extremely enthusiastic about AI
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Bros.... Our paid shill excuse
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>>8475328
if you visited certain site you would know
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>>8475328
>monkey localslopper
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>>8475328
You can see how popular it is in Korean forums and almost every fucking Korean person on discord is using it. Even Angel shills it.
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>>8475323
Search booru for "scales", see which artists draw them how you like and try adding them. Also something's making your image blurry so I doubt you'll get good detailed textured scales with this artist mix.
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why are naiggers so hostile itt? only 2 of their 4 model releases are shit and there's still hope for v5. Meanwhile local is only slightly ahead with noob and they got nothing in the works.
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where the fuck is this faggot these stats? unless
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>>8475328
>A hundred percent of Bahamas, 300k people, use the website on their phone
>Bahamas being on the list in the first place
I don't believe these numbers
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>>8475341
Don't forget 4chan Cascade.
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>>8475335
They have to be, they hate each other, their women treat all men like rapists, their men treat all women like feminazis, everyone is out for money, no one care about anyone else, and if you had a broken condom accident? Like fucking hell you're gonna change things for them, you went through Korean society, he can go through it too.

Imagine the relief in your life if you live in that particular hellhole, and them you can make yourself a tulpa that replies for real. It's not some fucking thing in your head. people will flock to it like bread during the depression.
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I just don't get how a general on a dead board such as /h/ can reach schizophrenia levels that are on par with the most deranged /vg/ generals. Insane.
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>>8475334
welcome to youkoso, motherfucker.
https://files.catbox.moe/xmzcyz.png
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>>8475339
Am I supposed to know who the heel angel is
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>>8475346
Because they share the same pool of posters
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its nai
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>>8475346
Anti-AI schizos are pretty plentiful on this site, pretty much every general has 2-3 of them. It's kind of crazy how much AI news they keep up with just so they can be relevant with their shitposts. I gen every day and I can't even keep up with the amount of news they must sift through on a near hourly basis.
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>>8475347
go to bed m*m*ura
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I fucking hate tagging images bros
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>anti-ai schizos in my walls!!!!
maybe, just maybe, you're a fucking retard?
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OH NONONONNONONONONONONONONO IT'S FUCKING OVER
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test
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>>8475343
Semrush is for these sites more accurate, I doubt Japan is at OVER 30%. This is here is from semrush
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>>8475348
The person who gave us illustrious 0.1v and 1.0v. without it, noob would probably be a pony finetune
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>>8475357
we already knew this doe
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>>8475357
I fucking told bird-kun that it's the most logical step for them but he was seething and refused to listen. I was right about everything :)
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>>8475356
i am the most intelligent person i know
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sexy hentia
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if NAI is good, local is fucked. Not even a meme at this point.
Illustrious is outdated, "safety" filtered, and is being drip-fed to us
The development process of NoobAI is a good indicator of local bakers not knowing what to do with their resources
>Pony
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>>8475297
illustrious is shilled over pony primarily because of what it can do without loras, pony is better with loras
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>>8475328
How do you even do AI on your phone? It's completely unsuitable for anything.
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>>8475365
who??
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>pony is better with loras
Not even worth a (You)
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>>8475370
Pretty much this, yep. Based.
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>>8475371
Japan just uses mobile devices for everything
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>>8475375
According to the stats they use desktop PCs the most
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>>8475371
Japs use their phone for everything, and considering how 99% of NAI users don't bother inpainting shit I don't see how prompting on a phone would be any different than prompting on your desktop.
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>>8475297
>you can get away with using built in artists but why do that when loras do a much better job?
because you're replying to the anti-lora schizoshitposter.
you know, the one that suggests downloading another 6.5gb model and doing refiner memes instead of just using loras.
>>
retards
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>>8475371
nai on a foldable/ipad+stylus is extremely comfy
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Is there any noob shitmix that does single artists well without loras?
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>>8475381
In these conversations I always forget that iPads and such count as phones for these stats.
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next thread when?
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>>8475382
Nope. Pony handles loras better anyway.
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>>8475382
Generally, mixing destroys the structure and dilutes it.
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proof?
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>>8475382
Depends entirely on the artists, some will never look good on a checkpoint trained on the bulk of danbooru simply because their posts are very inconsistent in style and no amount of incestuous shitmixing can solve that.
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>>8475383
i don't blame you for forgetting that tablets exist
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would anyone take part in a threadly lora baking challenge

I would pick a 1girl, you train on your choice of models and produce 3 4x4 grids for "standing 1girl", "pov cowgirl" and "from behind, doggystyle" or something and we see who makes the best loras
>>
burnice porn is inbound bros…
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one more post for 3k goal, we can do it bros, this is our chance
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>>8475392
Hope we can see her rioding the thickest, glossiest, veinies BBC that AI can gen...
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Hey, anons, is NAI V4 released yet?
>Ny-...
Where were you when nyoposters were killed?
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>>8475395
>is NAI V4 released yet?
In a few hours!
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>>8475395
taking the 4th shit in 24h for a total of 18 hours
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the roid got tired of the nyoposters and handled the situation appropriately
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>>8475238
Shift up actually uses stable diffusion and loras trained on their art
http://files.catbox.moe/t4n3ps.mp4
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>>8475398
Eat less.
Or eat healthier.
I actually heard, and this is completely anecdotal, that edging for prolonged periods can cause bowel issues.
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nai with its infrequent updates just can never keep its finger on the rapid pulse of gacha.
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>>8475403
This.
As long as NAI doesn't allow loras, it's basically dead on arrival.
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>>8475272
>completely drops out of the ranking a few months later
>surpassed even by some random "ai novelist".
https://a16z.com/100-gen-ai-apps-3/
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>>8475402
i have some post-jewflu mystery allergy, not the first either
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>>8475403
and characters that just don't make it big on Japanese ecosphere, nai can't do western characters unless they are crazy popular
>>
Why would you ever want to do western characters?
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>>8475405
im kinda surprised elevenlabs is so high, it's cool but it's so limited in what it will do for free and very costly for more
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>>8475336
WTF ANTINAIXISTERS
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>>8475407
it can because danbooru hasn't been an "ANIME" imageboard in forever
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v4 is such a fucking joke I swear
>>
is v4 out?
>>
I just tried v4 full and it's basically gay
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>>8475412
barely doing them vs doing them accurately is pretty different, league of legends characters on rule34 are unholy levels of inaccurate slop mostly because the models don't know them well at all
>>
textsisters won in the end
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>>8475415
spotted the toonfag
>>
just fooled the ceo of yostar with my Nai V4 gen
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>>8475415
Gay as in hairy bara buttsex or as in cute otoko no ko crossdressing frottage?
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v4 is about to win bigly
>>
just uploaded my v4 gen as the new opm chapter
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>>8475420
can you tell him to bring the lappalter banner to global next week
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>>8475423
repostsd!
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>>8475422
curated is already better than local anyways
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>>8475421
both these things are equally gay
>>
Wrong.
>>
https://www.chargebee.com/company/
Is NAI's new payment processor trustworthy?
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just got my first patron thanks to v4 gen
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>>8475427
Byuuup, basically pretty much this
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>>8475416
all you need are ahri and tristana
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SO MUCH THIS AAAAHHH CUMMING!!!!
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>>8475433
>better using local
naixisters...
>>
the CEO of mihoyo penned me a beautiful letter praising my artwork (it was a nai v4 gen)
>>
>Dead style using local
localxisters....
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>>8475433
if that was for last thread then [deleted] showed up more than " nai " :^)
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>>8475435
even then it can't do ahri very well because ahri has like 10 different skins and it slops them together
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>>8475433
>pony gonna hate
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>>8475433
very organic post sis
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>>8475407
>nai can't do western characters unless they are crazy popular
Is that meant to be a point against NAI?
>>
If you guys love NAI so much, why don't you buy a subscription?
>>
WHERE IS IT?
WHERE IS V4?
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OUT TODAY ISN'T IT?
WHY THE FUCK IS IT NOT HERE YET?
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>>8475433
>nai post full bad slop
what does this mean for kurucoins?
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>>8475445
yes I want to fuck ahri and squirrel girl no I don't care about weeaboo extremism
>>
This appears to be a discussion thread on a forum, likely 4chan's /h/ (hentai) board. The key points are:

There is anticipation and discussion around the upcoming release of NAI (Novel AI) version 4, which is expected to have improvements over previous versions.

There is ongoing debate and rivalry between supporters of local/offline AI models (like Noob, Illustrious, etc.) and those who prefer the cloud-based NAI service. Both sides make arguments for the strengths and weaknesses of their preferred option.

Some users are already claiming to have used or tested NAI v4, with mixed opinions - some say it is "gay" while others claim it is better than local models.

There are also discussions around techniques like using noise filters, loras, and controlnets to improve the quality of AI-generated images.

The thread is approaching 3000 posts, with users commenting on the high level of activity and engagement, as well as speculating on when the next thread will be created.

Overall, it is a lively discussion among AI art enthusiasts, with the upcoming NAI v4 release being a major focus.
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>>8475449
We have a model for people like you, it's called "pony"
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Give me the TL;DR, cuh
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>>8475442
anon?
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>>8475453
>owning
good
>saas
bad
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>>8475454
NAI has ayakon style?!
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>>8475451
what site can i use to generate this?
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>>8475454
>headshot only
>still got face markings wrong
now try having ahri do anything interesting in a full body shot
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>>8475454
>first gen in 30 minutes
its here. the biggest thread in hdg history
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>>8475454
please sir gen more of her in this butiful henti style
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>>8475323
>{{{karv::WADA ARCO, konya karasue}}}
What the hell is this formating anon?
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>>8475454
That hand...
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>>8475457
brave browser's leo ai, that was Claude Haiku model
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>>8475455
Thanks, I agree!
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>>8475464
ty
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Can we start a dialogue about how every fucking local model doesn't know what mature_female tag is? Or at most the effects are extremely weak.
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>>8475463
that's why we have v4 now. coped long enough with v3 and had to pretend that it was on par with noob. localkeks did the same with pony so cut us some slack
>>
nai v4 countdown?
>>
NovelAI v4 will be the second turning point in the history of AI Image gen. Keep your eyes peeled
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>>8475467
The problem is the dataset. Mature female is literally "not old corpse, not newborn". Everything in-between can be found under that tag.
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>>8475473
>mature female
>is 19
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nai v5 will be ai generated videos
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>>8475474
This post was fact checked by real Japanese Rorikon: TRUE
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>>8475476
no that’s Nai Video v1
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>4 days without firedotinc posts
It's unironically over, time to end this suffering once and for all.
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>>8475473
so what the fuck is the teenage tag for if mature_female also encompasses anyone who isnt 10
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>>8475474
>Average gacha/anime fan
>we like older women
>Character above 18
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>>8475476
And their image gen model won't be updated for over a year again while they prepare that and AeR!
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I hope nai v6 comes close to Noob in terms of composition
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>>8475484
PILLAR ALERT WE HAVE A PILLAR POST HERE, I REPEAT, WE HAVE A PILLAR POST!
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>>8475480
He's just training more of thems self-trained styled.
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>>8475484
That was quick.
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>1girl
>white background
>splotch of cum
i fucking came ahhh ahhh
>>
NAIsisters, are we finally going to take over this shithole?
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>>8475482
unironically one of the reasons I like Genshin is that most of the women are clearly 20+, have jobs and I can feel ok lewding
Keqing might look more petite but at least she is clearly mid 20s in a senior office role instead of 13 and in a high school like most anime
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>>8475491
no
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>>8475490
Yeah the splotch of cum is distasteful and distracting, this needs to stop already.
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>>8475462
thanks for telling me,i stole it from korean forum site,i don't know what it does and i'm not even using it correctly
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>>8475491
I'm not gonna post my NAI gens here. They don't deserve it
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>>8475493
unrelated but ever since that doujin where she motivates those miners shes made me diamonds
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>>8475494
Why nyot? :(
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>>8475493
we have a redditor over here
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>>8475490
You forgot the iconic composition that required over 9000 hours of inpainting and controlnet doodles.
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>>8475493
>Clearly mid 20s
Sorry, but she looks like she could easily be in high school
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>>8475493
go back
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>>8475476
wan
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>>8475476
not gonna happen, they would have to compete with klingGODS
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>>8475502
petite women exist, the clear part is that she canonically is older and working an office style job regardless of what ingame model is used
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>>8475493
Now that's some proper zoomer tourist cringe, gj
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>no one has done Tamamo Cat "wan" jokes yet
cmon gen her
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I'm 26, am I allowed to lewd asuka from nge or is it creepy?
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>>8475509
>real art
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>>8475506
liking petite woman is a sign of pedophilia
>>
if they're old enough to get knocked up it's fine
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>>8475512
If it's real then why does it look worse than basic slop
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>>8475511
Creepy af, gramps
yikes
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>>8475511
She's old now, so you would be lewding a granny.
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>>8475511
she is older then you at this point
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>>8475416
League isn't exactly /aco/ core, nor obscure in Japan. Look at Totally Spies, or Total Drama Island.
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The only way liking petite women isn't gay is if they have a really, really, REALLY hairy vagina
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>>8475517
>>8475518
by the same logic it's alright to look at actual 90s cp. They're grown up now
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>>8475523
Yes, but you must use 'aged up'.
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>>8475433
>lot bait
>>
Will the Noob > NAI4 jump be even remotely as impactful as going from AOM2 slop to Nai 3?
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>>8475506
Those genshin models, the middle sized ones don't have proportions or looks of adult woman.
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>>8475528
there are many mid 20s chinese girls who would look exactly like keqing
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>>8475529
fr fr
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>>8475527
I don't think so. It's gonna be good, but not groundbreakingly good.
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>>8475529
>chinese girls
You mean ugly clones?
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>>8475529
can i mail order one?
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>>8475493
Arknights is the hag gacha. Genshin only has three body types, so a lot of "adults" end up in the middle group together with Xiangling and Fischl.
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>>8475433
better nai post itt
using local pony without artist
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I like strong American women who can beat the shit out of me :3
>t.5'6 manlet
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>>8475532
all I am saying is chinese girls are pretty hot AND very likely to be happy to date white nerds
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I hate AI
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>NAI releasing soon
>suddenly there are millions of gachacucks in the thread
Curious.
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>>8475540
paypigGODS run this joint
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>>8475539
baaaaasd
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>>8475527
It wasn't impactful.
With inpaint, loras and controlnet (local tools) AOM2 was much fucking better than NAI slop. You were deceived by NAI shills.
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>>8475538
>chinese girls are pretty ho
Not really, I lived and traveled all over China for 10 or so years from 2013-2023, most were ugly, your perception is just skewed because you only see the pretty ones on social media.
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>>8475540
They had to watch local users pounding their newly released waifus for months and now they can finally gen sloppy seconds
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Mihomo troons ruining yet another fucking thread. God, I fucking hate every single one of you.
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so we posting straight up nonsense at this point?
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With no style mixing, what's the mushy loli meta gonna be?
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>>8475549
refine with noob
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>>8475550
this, you gen with nai and refine with local
it's that simple
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V4 IS NOT OUT YET
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>>8475552
Tomorrow we goon
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>>8475555
>tall, flat chest and ass
fucking based
>>
there's no tomorrow
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>>8475551
Yeah not seeing the issue, I'm paying for base res gens and that's what I'm getting. If we could do it all in NAI we'd prob have to pay $100!
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v4 dropping in two hours
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highlight schizo fell off in the past couple months
maybe effort does matter
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>>8475561
wowza
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>8475557
based if you're gay
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>>8475557
first step to homosexuality
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>>8475562
with naiv4 he is going to have to go back to doing 3 collages with the amount of mogging that is about to happen in this thread
>>
Thread currently on pace for 4k posts. Keep it up bros.
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>>8475562
The next jeetlights will feature all the high quality refined esthetic NAI gens. Gon b yet another demonstration of how far behind local is.
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I'm currently on pace for another anal prolapse.
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>>8475566
>>8475568
alright, I walked into that one making that post today kek
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>>8475496
>i don't know what it does and i'm not even using it correctly
im giving it a spin and getting nice results, thanks for the info. nonetheles. Also for you issue you could prob go to e621 a get a tag artist that gets scales well i guess
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>>8475565
that's right, girly looking females are gay
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I'm currently on pace to post my first nai v4 gen

1girl, standing, huge boobs, huge ass.
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>>8475583
>huge boobs, huge ass.
i will be disgruntled
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>>8475584
I love highleg panties so much, very sexo
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so do i have to prompt v4 with anthro and farting on prey in negatives?
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>>8475584
thin waist, short-medium hair, tube top is honestly peak. wish more character designs went with it
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should I post the horror seizure that wan i2v did to illya?
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1girl, standing,{{{{{{{flat chest}}}}}}, huge ass, wide hips
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I just realized that local will most likely use nai for training now lmao. They will try to pull an deepseek.
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>>8475597
>an deepseek.
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how long will i have to wait for illustrious loras that are trained on the best nai v4 style mixes?
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>>8475594
Yes.
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small compute of 5 million
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But for real though why is this release taking so long
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>>8475584
hypnobox?
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its nai
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>>8475557
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I'll start with her. {{{Ryona, choking and tears}}}. Then I'll do the whole cast of jjk in that jjk artsyle getting raped
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>There's a non-zero chance that this will be the last NSFW NAI version
Payment providers HATE coomer slop
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>>8475583
when exactly does it release? how many hours?
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>>8475604
2 days ago they were talking like if it was weeks away...
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>>8475609
cute butt, but
>{{{thick thighs}}}}, wide hips,
what are you doing, anon
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>>8475600
welp, you asked
https://litter.catbox.moe/7b2u3e.webm
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>>8475617
>what are you doing
I dunno
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>>8475621
oh yeah, she also spazzed out the guy's dick into oblivion
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>>8475621
giwtwm
>>
Can someone with access to NAI V4 full try this prompt:
>a beautiful woman with curvy hips and delightful looking cheekbones lying on her back, a man with a giant meaty penis covered in veins rubbing her vagina while grabbing her tender breast with his other hand, by hideo kojima
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I think I see the point with 480p wan, 15 minute gen is crazy
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>>8475616
Their team is honestly fucking stupid
Announcing the new model 3 months before release is stupid
I'm betting they're pushing it out today because they were afraid people would get mad from all the payment processing crap and they wanted to have some positive news to go with with
Expect it to be completely broken and need weeks of updates until it works right
>>
HOLY SHIT IT'S OUT
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>>8475622
to be fair, looks the same
tags describing physique other than breasts sizes seems to be weak in general
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>>8475621
Amazing.
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>>8475627
>by hideo kojima
kino
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>>8475634
Might just be for the curated version,seeing as the majority of the dataset will be nsfw anyway in full.
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>ctrl+f (you)
>9 results
>none of them are replies to me
Could you please stop this shit
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What's the first thing (You) will proompt when V4 goes up?
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>>8475606
i was testing a lora but it was fucking FRIED, back to the bakery, it was only saved because upscaling
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>>8475640
1girl, standing, large breasts
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>>8475640
dark-skinned male, very dark skin, veiny penis
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>>8475640
your mom, taken from behind, black man, large penis
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>>8475642
damn, unfortunate
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>>8475643
https://files.catbox.moe/pi50bm.jpg
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>>8475647
uhh that's neither of those
>>
virus
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>>8475646
artist is sho (sho lwlw) if that's what you cared about
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>>8475647
her right leg seems a big long don't it?
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>>8475650
I'll check them out, thanks
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>>8475652
it's inpainted
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>>8475655
oh okay
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>>8475653
holy sexo
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>Almost bedtime for me
nyooooo I want to be here for the NAI V4 full meltdown thread
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>>8475647
bookmarked and followed
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>>8475540
can't wait to finally make some Kachina images
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>>8475647
Why is she eyeless?
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>>8475210
link it on the 'cord bwo(ungenuine)
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I have it on good authority that a lot of the popular twitter artists are actually using AI, they just paint over it to mask it.
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>>8475210
Is that pixiv?
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>>8475661
The meltdown is already here
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>>8475357
So it's e621 + danbooru again?
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>>8475666
it's inpainted
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mobsex
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Where are the nai gens??
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>>8475687
I didn't sub :(
>>
buzz>anals
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>>8475690
Whats the exchange rate
>>
>>8475690
If we could earn anals like buzz that would be cool. But that would require them to turn their paid service into a user-driven platform which probably won't ever happen.
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>>8475692
they hold contests on the trooncord every once in a while thoughbeit
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>>8475695
Sounds exciting!
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WHERE IS IT?
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Pony v7? Still in the oven, be patient.
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>>8475697
free anals
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Any requests anons? I don't do sex.
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>>8475705
thats awesome, nai has to be one of the most generous AI companies out there
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>>8475706
Show your feet.
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>>8475687
It's not out yet.
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>>8475705
That's... not a lot. What do they have the contestants do usually?
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>>8475706
oral and anal isn't sex
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>>8475710
Submit a gen.
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>>8475712
Like within a specific theme?
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>>8475714
either a theme or "do something cool with VT"
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>>8475714
Something like "Halloween"
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>>8475616
NovelAI Scholar here. They didn't plan to release it today, but they needed to save face after the payment processor issue. Users are frustrated, people are tired of waiting over a year for a model that keeps getting delayed. It is not 100% ready but they have no choice. Forcing people to switch payment providers while offering nothing for 14 months would do crippling damage to their wallet.
>>
nice bait
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>>8475710
it's not considering i keep winning 1-year eastwest cc+ giveaways by doing nothing
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Why don't they accept crypto along with the other options? I'm never attaching my CC data to my cooms, sorry.
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>>8475723
your data is their product
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>>8475723
>I'm never attaching my CC data to my cooms, sorry.
i don't get this train of thought at all
who's gonna care or snitch? banks don't care about what you do and unless you're a young adult who for some reason still lets his parents manage or check his account nobody is ever gonna find out
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>>8475730
I mean, if you do cunny (or whatever flavor of a nono content for normies is the current boogeyman) and one day they decide to go all AI safety cuck way or get pressured by authorities they'll give up your shit in a hearbeat.
>>
basically, anyone who doesn't want to pay for porn is a pedophile
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>>8475733
>usual fearmongering argument
repeat after me anons

nothing
ever
happens
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why would I spend 25$ when i have a working nvidia gpu?
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>>8475706
I'll take you up on that, gimme me a girl, spread eagle and spreading her pussy lips, and I mean spreading. I want to see a V out of those legs.
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what the fuck lol
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>>8475748
That looks surprisingly good
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>>8475737
You're from aicg and you're well aware that some niggers there are getting sued by MS rn, so why are you lying?
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>>8475748
on the internet, no one can tell that you're a dog
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>>8475748
>that object permanence on the wooden floor trim
local could never
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>>8475748
erm...
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>>8475740
You shouldn't.
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>>8475751
>You're from aicg
do you want to explain to the rest of the thread why you immediately jumped to that conclusion or...
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>>8475753
flux does it because 16ch vae but the model and arch are shit
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>>8475756
Hmm... Nyo!
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>>8475730
I'm not that fag, but in this day and age where everything you do gets tracked, and it's only a matter of time until it gets monetized, it's better not to risk it.

Sure, the banks and credit card companies wont care about it at all.... Until someone wants to come and buy your shopping data. "That'll never happen, not in a million years" you'll reply back, but they'll find a way. They'll sponsor a few senators into congress, they'll pass a law saying they CAN sell it so long as no personal data is with it, and all of a sudden your porn preferences are up in the market.
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>>8475751
im not well aware. can you tell us who why and what is being sued
>>
>>8475748
>{{{{{{realistic}}}}}}
UH OH
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>>8475748
first legit good NAI v4 gen
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>>8475757
VAE has nothing to do with object permanence.
>>
I wish I was creative ;-;
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>>8475757
can you flux off???
>>
>>8475759
>and all of a sudden your porn preferences are up in the market.
>all of a sudden
i've got terrible news for you anon
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>>8475766
Sub to NAI, it will do all the creativeness for you, you'll just need to press the generate button.
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>>8475766
I wanted a 1girl spinning around her some used condoms, I can't do it
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>>8475764
why is it good then
>>
since v4 has regional prompter, will v5 have controlnet and v6 loras?
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>>8475770
controlnet
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>>8474905
>>8474631 →
catboxes please?
>>
3 days have passed since they said "tomorrow"
Looks like it's not happening, NAIfags
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post gens
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>>8475777
Tomorrow it will the first of March and that means it has been an entire month since it was February where they said 'today'
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>>8475778
gens
>>
>895 posts
>64 images
right on track
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You don't use NAI because it's better than local SD. You use NAI because it can achieve 85% of local SD potential by using a 10% of its total resources and requirements without needing you to waste your time and to be a NASA engineer with either a 3090 or a 4090 in your mom's basement. At the end of the day, local genners can say whatever they want but time, convenience and efficiency always beat mass-fuelled autism in quality.
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>>8475785
ok but
>>>/aco/
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>>8475785
I can shart gens every 2/5 sec with NAI, that's the main selling point
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>>8475778
i'm training, should inpaint out that double ear tag
>>
What makes something /aco/ instead of /h/?
Is it the characters not being from an anime or the artstyle?
>>
(you)
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>>8475793
Mainly the second.
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>>8475785
An updated base model is always going to be better than an outdated base model that needs to be raped with LoRAs
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>>8475793
both.
jannies are blind and retarded and will mostly only recognize the former while largely ignoring the later, though.
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>>8475760
There's a bunch of anons that have been scraping API keys for various corpo AI models and running proxies for aicg coomers with those keys. Mostly for text models, but also Dalle. One of those proxies that wasn't gatekept and free-to-use got linked on aco at some point and the fags there started genning nsfw celebs (not to mention all the csam-like gens the other fags have been doing on it), Microsoft somehow became aware of that and decided to file a lawsuit against the anons running the scraping and proxy efforts, lumping them together as some kind of an organized hacker group. It's still ongoing and the lawyers have identified and doxxed like 10 people already (mostly because those proxy hosts have been mega retarded with their opsec and also started snitching on each other once pressed) but I don't think there's been any real consequences for those anons so far. Most of them are thirdies and a couple are from US and I'm guessing MS will try to go after those burgers.
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>>8475793
Just the art style. Compare:
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/7438853
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4044040
Characters do not matter as long as their original style doesn't show through.
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>>8475785
>Tfw the average anon finds it extremely hard to just do "git clone" and "git pull" on a page
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>>8475801
would kill my own family for the metadata on this
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>>8475785
I just like to shitpost
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>>8475802
kim possible would be /aco/ even if ciloranko himself drew her
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>>8475804
it's nai (local)
>>
it's noob artificial intelligence
>>
>>8475801
xiangbox?
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>>8475713
dick too big.
Nice gen tho
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>>8475801
she is 14
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>>8475800
>do wire fraud
>get sued
>surprised pikachu face
>>
>>8475800
nothing ever plappens
>>
>>8475817
What a hag, sheesh!
>>
>>8475817
ZAAAAAMMMN
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>>8475817
inches!
>>
you can make actual cursed shit with this
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>>8475817
out of ten
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>>8475817
out of 10!
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>>8475824
wow they weren't kidding, you wont even need inpainting on face details because the eyes dont even come out blurry anymore. that vae is something else
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>>8475827
fr fr those eyes are so perfect!
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>>8475824
>hatsune miku as a chair
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>>8475824
imagine how much better v4 full is going to be with e621 added to the dataset
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I>>8475824
It's incredible how that looks 10x better and more detailed than everything I've seen posted here in the last few months.
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>>8475831
ikr? I'm legit amazed, subbing as soon as v4 comes out
>>
Yeah ok, cool memes, any hentai yet
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>>8475824
ok but now do hatsune miku as a child, realistic, and make them retrain the model again
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>>8475833
>any hentai yet
Nyo! I-it's... too lewd
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>>8475833
best i can do is /aco/
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>>8475833
I have some but the thread feels really volatile right now and I'm not in the mood to be made fun of so I'll wait until it calms down a little bit to sneak my image in.
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>>8475834
it's curated
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>>8475837
so you are a pussy, got it bro
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>>8475839
Yes I thought I made that pretty clear with the post you just replied to.
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>>8475829
can you do fern holding a baseball bat (but the bat is made out of Reimu) hitting a baseball (but the baseball is miku)?
>>
We are going to have to much fun bros
I love you all
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>>8475846
Got $25 to spare Sir?
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>>8474734
>style_cluster_677
Isn't that just what v6 looks like? Also still strikes me ass odd how there was never an attempt to tag artistic qualities and traits instead of that mess.
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>>8475848
give me your address and I'll mail you 30$ dollars
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>>8475847
That's c*sam
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>>8475776
https://files.catbox.moe/9a2w12.png
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>>8474734
What the fuck is that
>>
>>8475857
thank you for the catbox
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>>8475498
you can't just say that without dropping the sauce bwo?
>>
25$ is barely enough for three dozen eggs, don't make such a big deal out of it
>>
>>8475854
Best I can do is my Monero address. :)
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>>8475860
I'm not your "bwo"
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>>8475858
embodiment of reddit
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>>8475863
>does life outside the US exist?
>no, it must all be fiction
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>>8475806
Nah, it can be done. Here's a quick attempt.

The issue is if you go too far from the characters' original style it's hard to keep them recognizable because their unique facial structure/features do not transfer across styles. Might need an artist's touch, or at least keeping their clothes on.
>>
name a more iconic duo than cumragUI and /aco/slop, i'll wait
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>>8475869
complainer and nogen
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>>8475869
NAI and astroturfing.
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>>8475869
NAI and anime
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>>8475869
local and losing
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>>8475869
NAI and mogging this general!
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>>8475863
Bruh
A pack of 60 eggs costs 6 euros here
>>
there's a bit of astroturf in my thong, how did it get there
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>>8475867
thirdworlders can't afford nai and europeans gen with some french local model that is 5 years behind sota but conforms to all their regulations. Japs don't come here
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>>8475869
My anus and prolapse.
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>>8475878
>most of this general can't afford NAI
Yeah, that was my whole fucking point.
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>>8475878
>europeans gen with some french local model that is 5 years behind sota but conforms to all their regulations
>some mutts actually believe this
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>>8475869
nai and meltie
>>
>>8475869
NAI and lying about release dates.
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>>8475869
/hdg/ and possumachine
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>>8475818
Some proxy users are also seemingly getting caught in crossfire. Looks like they did a shit job investigating the whole thing so far
>>
>>8475876
But can you reach arbys, wendys, five guys and white castle with a single f150 fuel tank from wherever you live?
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>>8475869
NAI and lowres slop. Noob and fucked up anatomy. Pony and sepia.
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>>8475869
My cock and your butt
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>>8475891
Yeah,tho there are no "white castle" in my area
>>
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>>8475805
v4 is looking really good.
>>8475847
T0T
>>
How does a half-sentence bait post get more attention than all the gens itt combined
>>
Don't worry about it.
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>>8475897
shitposting general.
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>>8475897
it's birdschizo baiting
>>
I confess, I samefagged more than once :(
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>>8475899
this but for real, as I said the other day, no one really cares about images here anymore
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>>8475897
samefagging
>>
How does a retarded question get more attention than all the gens itt?
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>>8475894
oh nyo
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>>8475903
it was this or becoming a second /edg/ once iaschizo set his sights on this place
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>>8475803
probably talking about all the accessory stuff like controlnet usage, baking loras, regional prompter, etc. The skill ceiling on local is higher, but so is the barrier to entry and the base requirement to make something nice.

Of course since most of us have already spent months if not years learning how to use it, it's not much of an argument anymore.
>>
V4 comes out and the first prompt will be Olga Discordia with a horsecock
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>>8475910
>The skill ceiling on local is higher, but so is the barrier to entry and the base requirement to make something nice.
I still haven't seen local gens that are as nice as NAI v3. Sorry. All the endless tools and it's still (ai-generated:1.1) slop instead of (ai-generated:2.0) like it was with pony.
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>>8475912
>I still haven't seen local gens that are as nice as NAI v3
low effort bait
>>
if v4 full will be brown i will cum without touching myself
>>
NAI
NAI
NAI
NAI
NAI
NAI
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>>8475912
Nice in your measure is some kind of ciloranko oil painting? I'm not interested in making those.
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>>8475916
Cummed here to say that.
>>
5 minutes bros
>>
Agreed I've never sawed an actually good looking local gen and I've being here from the start.
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>>8475913
https://archiveofsins.com/h/thread/7686226/#q7687938
Umm but Aki99 Peach?
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>>8475865
bwo pwetty pwease. my balls are blue.
>>
i would suck a male cock for 1 month of NAI v4
>>
we knw, freejesh
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>>8475917
Just if it's nice to look at and if it's AIness is not obvious from the first sight. I don't care about gangbangs or cock catapults or sex machine vore or whatever "Creative" genners try to do, I have a simple taste. I look at NAI gens I've saved and they're pleasant. I look at Noob gens and while they're lightyears ahead of pony, they're still not *there*. Obviously there's a lot of disgusting slop produced by any model, I just cherrypick stuff that I tend to like and I still prefer v3 gens the most.
>>
Oh xhis hands are shaking already jeej
>>
are theres any way to get a free days of novel ai 4 trial???
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>>8475932
Nyo. Pay up piggie!
>>
>>8475932
If you were subbed before yesterday, you can get free anal by transferring your sub to the new payment thing...
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>>8475928
this but noob. Can't take v3 fags seriously at this point. It's not even proper vpred
>>
why did i buy an nvidia GPU when i could've gotten 5 years of NAI... my card will be outdated in a week while NAI remains cutting-edge
>>
what do nai users substitute gaming with in the gaming-gooning cycle? do they just come her to shitpost?
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>>8475937
Yeah I just got a 5090 and regretting it bigly
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>>8475937
It's funny because the prices of 3090s / 4090s are still going up, and you realize that this place is full of jeets coping with 3060s
>>
>they're afraid to release it because it will surely be the disappointemtn of the century
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>>8475940
this thread is the only reason to justify this otherwise dead board
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>>8475943
i literally dont give a shit about cards, im gonna buy me a 9070 xtx prebuilt pc and call it a day. I dont understand why people NEED a 5090. If any game is not working well enough ill just fire on fsr. In what scenario do you need a gpt that costs 3k? what games do you play on it? is it the 4k meme?
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>>8475936
I'm using noob now. It's much better when it comes to prompt adherence and freedom, but I still like it less. I don't gen much nowadays so I don't really feel like paying 25 bucks for a couple hundred gens a month would be a smart idea.
>It's not even proper vpred
Explain or it's just a shitty bait?
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Bro is ranting about people buying top gpus in AI gen thread, holy kek the tourists NAI brings in.
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>>8475946
don't forget the Taimanin gacha scene viewer
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NAI V4 full is officially released!

Is what I would say if it was officially released.
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But really though what the fuck is taking so long? Are they postponing it again?
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Convince me to buy a nai sub with cold hard facts
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>>8475955
trying out new models is fun
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>>8475954
At most 6 hours still
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>>8475955
Don't and hope we get a day0 leak.
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>>8475954
It's been about 21 hours since they said 'within 24 hours' and its release date was revealed on their official website as a footnote on a news post about something else
I don't think they actually were ready for it
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>>8475955
Fact #1
>You can shoot how white sticky cum all over your keyboard without having to worry about getting your fingers all sticky because NAI is in the cloud so you won't have to use your own keyboard to type your prompt, one of the anlatan employees will prompt for you!
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>>8475947
Nvidia cards are AI cards. Games are just a side bonus.
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i think that hagfags don't get enough hate lately because all this fuss over v4
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"tomorrow" meant "next business day"
and at their office they were already on the last business day of the week
no release until monday
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>>8475965
can't we all just get along
I don't even shit on pedos and still have to deal with this
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>>8475966
>office
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>>8475963
SOUL
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>>8475947
buying prebuilt pcs is retarded tho
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>>8475967
i shit on both, despite liking lolicon
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>>8475965
Can we maybe get rid of the actual fags before we resume the pedo/hag war?
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>>8475955
if you can't afford $25 for unlimited image gen for just a single month even to just test it out then you shouldn't be here or online at all and should be working
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>>8475973
Nah. You can leave any time though.
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>>8475973
>actual fags
who?
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NAI v4's actual value will be on whether it can do loli/shota without 20 snakeoils. That's it.
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>unlimited image gen
geg
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>>8475977
You're severely retarded if you think you need any snake oil to gen loli, the fuck you even doing.
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why is it melting down?
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because i'm disgruntled
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>>8475980
Post 'em to prove me wrong.
>inb4 long ass torsos
>inb4 wrong head proportions
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>>8475976
>>8475975
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>>8475984
>long ass torsos
good morning toddler faggot
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>>8475951
You just gave me an idea for later, nice gen btw
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>>8475984
Nice request bro but we don't do that here.
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>>8475992
>3072x4608
NAIsisters our reply?
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I know someone is on their discord,, post what they're saying there
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>>8475996
They're laughing at us :(
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>>8475996
>it's not delayed, it's still friday, stay calm, take it easy
most recent statement
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>>8476000
That's what they would say if it was delayed
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>>8476000
>11:55 PM
>It's coming today guys don't worry
I see it already
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i'm writing a light novel where the protagonist gets transported to another world of swords and magic but he magically keeps his smartphone that has a connection to the novelai servers. still looking for a title
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FUCK AIs
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>>8476006
vtubers are inherently /aco/
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>>8476006
what's the appeal of listening to chatgpt with some sassy prompt and girly ai voice?
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>>8476007
this is such a word efficient piece of bait, incredibly based
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>>8476008
india's only exposure to females
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>>8476006
boxx?
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>>8475940
that's sooooo truthful sister!
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>>8476008
in the form of an chldis
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>>8476014
That profile pic fits him so much
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kys discordtrannies
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>>8476017
Gonna gen him plowing a cunny after v4 drops, aren't you?
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>>8476014
GIVE IT TO ME NOW
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>>8476013
nyyooo...
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>>8476014
You know they could've just said Saturday and saved themselves the headache
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>>8476019
Let's avoid saying such things tonight, okay?
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some of you are alright, dont download any files in the shota channel on the 'cord today
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>>8476024
Sorry things just feel really heated right now
I'll be more careful with my words
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>>8476022
nyess
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https://files.catbox.moe/eh0umw.png
https://files.catbox.moe/xpd9xj.png
metadata for anyone that cares
https://files.catbox.moe/q7unaz.png
https://files.catbox.moe/9rl2ga.png
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>pedophilia
Yike. NAI v4 would never
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>>8476026
technically this is /h/
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>>8476033
And untechnically?
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>>8476030
oaekakischizo, you're my fav in this shithole
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I can somewhat understand pedos not wanting to go to /b/ but why are fags not posting on /y/ or /lgbt/ or wherever fags go
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>>8476033
And?
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>>8476030
i care. thank you for not using uncomfy spaghetti.
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>like clockwork
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>>8476037
ok pedo
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>>8476030
honestly impressed how you get that with such short prompts, is the pose just left to controlnet input?
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So, Saturday?
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>sleep for 10 hours
>wake up
>still no v4
What the fuck.
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>>8476038
You seem obsessed, perhaps you should go back?
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>>8476041
are you noooticing something and want to share with the class?
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please, post some glossy nigger butthole closeup, because i can't stand this gay shit
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nyo
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>>8476047
You gonna interview yourself this time around or nah?
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whos your favorite pokegirl anons?

I'll go first, hex
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>>8476051
Why do you feel the need to ask this in every other thread?
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>>8476043
it's a mix of learned behavior of knowing what you can/should omit and slightly shortening prompts between lowres t2i and upscale. And you can generally guestimate how a pose should go by selecting adding or omitting tags.
for example here's the lowres for the selfie shot
<https://files.catbox.moe/b61ct2.png>
Having "holding phone" forces it to the 3rd person selfie reference rather than the selfie-cam pov. Convenient censoring, with both her hands occupied, generally leaves the dildo to be placed betwixt her legs and conveniently covering her.
And then in upscaling you can drop the convenient censoring, hat and technically you can drop the "holding phone" tag(I forgot to, oops). Once it's visually represented and you're forcing it with controlnet tile, the model is going to recognize and put it there anyway off of inference from the selfie tag and it'll do the convenient censor from the omission of a genitalia tag. And if you drop those it "should," in theory, improve the end generation since you're not locking inference down as hard.
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>>8476051
colosseum leader taylor, lana's sisters, acerola
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Wtf is bro musing on
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>>8476053
I think it's an invitation to post gens, or a thinly veiled request. Rather than a simple question.
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Anons, what could be the reason that after performing an inpaint, ADetailer makes everything in the found square lighter than it was before? Picrel as an example - near Yae face, on the right below, you can see a clear rectangular border(just in case I circled the area with a red line) and along it there is a difference in shades of light. Maybe there is something wrong with the settings of ADetailer itself? Using standart 832x1216 resolution and Hiresfix with 4x-Animesharp - x1.5. Settings - https://files.catbox.moe/0l2ol1.jpg
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Illustrious 2.0 when?
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>>8476062
ask your patreon subs
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>>8476062
Because inpaint manually you lazy bum that's why.
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>>8476063
you have 1.0 and 1.1 and nobody uses them
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boring baits
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>>8476066
v3 slaps doe??
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>>8476053
Last time I asked that, not him. I made a list of all the suggested poke girls and have been enjoying them.
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ITS OUT
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my dick is out
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>>8476071
Your prolapse?
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>>8476064
I don't have patreon, xD. Just learning some stuff and trying to figure out what's wrong. There were no such problems when working with waiNSFWIllust v8 and v9, but after switching to version 11 they began to appear.
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>>8476070
I see.
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>>8475857
thanks

side note, anyone genning using ay em dee? is it a hassle to set up and what kind of gen speeds are you guys getting for say, euler a 1024x1024? tempted by the 9070 xt
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>>8476062
up the mask blur
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>>8476070
why didn't you post any for us to enjoy?
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>>8476077
How high?
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>>8476051
her redesign with the big ol' tiddies make me brock hard.
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>>8476078
I should get around to doing that...
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>>8476079
until it stops making the box
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>>8476080
>acotendo
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>>8476083
Ty, will try.
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>nyogen
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NAI v3 is out
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Don't they have to take the site down or go into maintenance mode to add the new model?
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what's the obsession with v4? why do they think it'll magically improve over the preview because of some added furryporn?
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>>8476090
That, and removing all pedo shit from the dataset.
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are furries really such a significant part of the nai userbase that they had to include them in their flagship model?
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he hates childs.
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>>8476092
Having everything in one model is less training effort.
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>>8476091
Is that something they're doing
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>>8476093
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>>8476095
no
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>>8476094
might as well add some mlp.
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>>8476098
they did
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>>8476099
is r34 in?
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>>8476099
why would they waste precious params appeasing niche fandoms when they don't even have enough to capture all the detail the 16ch vae provides?
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do NOT run that prompt, it produces mustard gas
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>>8476095
Yep, delayed the launch for that specifically.
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>>8476092
naiv3 always lost to pony when it came to /d/ fetishes, including the more extreme monster girls
e621 dataset helps a lot here
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>>8476106
so v4 can do some disgusting vore on the level of mgq, but who asked for that?
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>>8476103
>niche fandoms
aco seems to be bigger than anime looking at civit and still they have only pony
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl3glnMxeRg [Embed]
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>>8476109
:hype: :poggers:
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LOCALSISSIES DONT LOOK
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it's here
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TIME TO PROOOMPT
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>fart dataset
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v4 consensus?
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It's out.
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{{{{{{{{{{farting on local}}}}}}}}}}
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is it doa or is it not? as a local sissie I need to know
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See you in a month.
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>>8476119
wow it sucks
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The lack of prompts being posted can only mean one of two things
>It fucking sucks and everyone keeps retrying
>No one in here can afford it so no one is prompting
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>initial few tests
Meh, kinda mid
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yd \(orange maru\))
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>>8476119
Mogs. Mogs. Mogs.
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where's the ciloranko deadnooodles tan long dong from v4?
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chloe von einzbern
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>>8476132
there is none
mixing no work :(
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>>8476128
My mix looks really ass, even the one I was using on v4 curated
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Now that the dust has settled, will we hit 3k text posts with this release? Be honest with me.
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>>8476136
no, american hours are slow
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>>8476136
it takes just one rogue imageposter to ruin our fun
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have you transferred your styles yet?
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v5 when? Kinda getting bored of v4 already.
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>>8476128
I've got it, my initial impression is that artist mixing has been butchered to shit. I knew it'd be bad but this feels almost unusable.
Emphasis doesn't seem to do shit so some artists feel unusable on their own too because the AI outputs groids by default.
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loli is pruned
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hello? nai gens?
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So can anyone translated what the fuck this means
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cnnuy...
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>>8476143
That's it, I'm ending it all, goodbye.
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>>8476143
based kurumuz is based
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>>8476146
sage is a retard
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novelai_v4_full_just_released
sota
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it means i subscribed!
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>>8476146
"just NL prompt the style mix, bro :)"
(this doesn't actually work they're just trying to imply there's some sort of skill issue without providing an adequate solution since one doesn't exist)
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FIRST CUM OF V4 LETS GOOOO
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Any changes for what's "free"? Like upscaling, resolutions, inpainting, "enhancing" and shit.
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>>8476146
simple, just write an essay about what you like about the style of your each artist. minimum 5 pages each. then let the sage do its magic
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My first v4 gen (just a v3 prompt that I reused)
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>>8476153
now try farting on prey
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>>8476153
Unironically happy if it can do rimming since that's something v3 (non-furry) couldn't do
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>>8476153
Wowowowowowow
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>>8476156
The new inpainting feature is free, nothing changed otherwise.
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so, with v4 out are you guys gonna post gens with me? :<
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i'm leaking!
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>>8476163
Fuck, well at least inpainting is. Does it work well at base res I wonder?
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>>8476153
localsisters...
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when is v5 being leaked?
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somebody try pov holding hands interlocked fingers sex on v4, that's the real test
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The bird girls need to sleep, I will be posting images tomorrow.
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anticlimactic
>>
Danbooru prompting fucking suck, my brain was rotted by the limited prompting options of V3.
Any V4 chad able to explain how to prompt now?
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remember, nothing ever happens
>>
no
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>>8476173
Danbooru tags, but you can mix in natural language as you like or prompt only using that.
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Leak leak leak?!
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nai wonned bigly
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nai sisters, have we been lied to?
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>>8476173
easy, just paste danbooru tag prompts into chatgpt and ask it to turn into sentences describing a professional artwork with traditional art jargon
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>>8476173
>my brain was rotted by the limited prompting options of V3
What? Everyone was Booru prompting on it.
>>
>>
But is it better than noob?
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Images must be great because no one is actually posting them here lmao
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>>8476184
Hell yeah, Frieren in high resolution!
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>>8476158
Looks like slop, not gonna lie.
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>>8476184
no way this is ai...
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turns out it was never about gens, just a place for discord troons, jeets, and bots to threadshit in
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>>8476186
Nyes, it mogs!
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>>8476184
LOCALSISSIES THIS CAN'T BE AI, KURUMUZ THIS TURKROACH CUNT IS HIRING JEETS TO DRAW WHAT WE ARE PROMPTING
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>>8476158
>>8476184
i can sense the sepia
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Why does it feel that no matter the quality of image I post with this new NAI v4 that the image will immediately be shat on by jealous local users?
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>>8476187
It worked fine for me up until the point where they published the announcement five minutes later, now it takes like 30-60 seconds per gen
I suppose I sohuld've seen it coming but I'll just wait for tomorrow. If it's anything like V3's release it will take a day or two for people to tardwrangle the prompts to establish some general guidelines anyway, I personally really don't care enough to experiment with natural language vs booru tags
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>>8476114
BEHOLD THE MAGNIFICENT {{{{takamaki anne, sweat, feet}}}} exde
what a shitbox, lmao
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all of these are local and v4 isn't out yet. you guys are trolling, right?
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>>8476030
I love you oekakischizo
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is v4 OUT ??????
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>>8476196
why does this look like something that unironically belongs on deviantart?
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>>8476126
Sex Wolf.
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>>8476197
Omg local could nevr
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>>8476201
can't escape the furry dataset. illuchads stay winning
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>>8476198
>>8476200
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No more local gens from this point on please!
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>>8476206
IT'S OUTTTTTTTTTTTTT
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>>8476206
>and best model.
A bit arrogant isn't it?
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https://x.com/novelaiofficial/status/1895612414084988946
It's out
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>>8476184
this guy is 80% leg lmfao if he stood up he would hit his head on the ceiling
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NAI V4 WON
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while nai sissies are waiting 1 minute per gen, I'm training a few loras of my favourite niche characters
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EVERYONE GET OFF V4 RIGHT NOW

I CAN'T GEN
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>>8476211
He's dwarf
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this gen time is actually brutal holy fuck
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First impressions:
>Colors are really good
>Seems to know characters pretty well
>Can do some artist styles really well

I think I'll stick to local, but it's a good model I think.
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>>8476211
it's NAI (v4)
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>>8476213
Basde. Any tutorials for character lora training specifically? I've never done one.
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>>8476217
Can it do non-danbooru artists?
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>>8476196
the best one so far
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>>8476217
Which artist styles have you found are good on it? I can't get anything that looks remotely decent.
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can someone generate xiangling using v4 for me.
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>new model
>no gens
it's over
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3k posts... i feel it
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2 more years, am I right localsisters?
Looks like the servers are being raped.
>>
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generate burnice white please having sex, large breasts
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can it do yd?
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>>8476222
You're not on curated, right?
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alright, get it over with, start posting the nyantcha overexaggerated hypersluts
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I’m probably gonna wait a few hours before genning. Sitting around for a minute waiting for an image to load is too long.
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>>8476217
Post some artists then.
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>>8476219
get at least 20-30 high quality & varied pictures of your character, then properly tag them. I'm testing tag dropout atm
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>Cunnykeks suspiciously silent
?
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>>8476234
>Sitting around for a minute waiting for an image to load is too long
local sisters...our response?
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>generation timed out
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>8476224
The ones I tried and really liked:
>yomu (sgt epper)
>nyantcha
>kingjoshua
>kenshin187
The ones I don't like:
>hero neisan
>shexyo (looks way too washed out)
>kamatama rom (weird body proportions)
>sattinittas
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>>8476239
I was gonna make a joke that it feels like using local, but I decided that was mean.
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your verdict, paypiggies?
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>>8476234
On v3 launch the servers were shitting themselves for weeks.
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>>8476196
>"request_type": "Img2ImgRequest",
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>>8476239
my local gens take 2-3 seconds
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>>8476243
it's alright
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>>8476243
not worth it over v3
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how is possom healthyman ding dong mix?
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>>8476241
Thanks, I'll give those a shot.
Not too impressed with the model currently but at least the regional prompting is neat.
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>can't even beg for a gift key now cause they disabled the purchase option
Sucks... Anyone wanna share their account or something?
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>>8474880
i'm doing it to coom not to be perfect
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>>8476252
Why would anyone want that you pajeet?
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>realistic data slipped in anyway
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>>8475860
https://exhentai.org/g/3112968/f34e4ac925/
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>>8476254
>Why would anyone be kind?
True, we must simply eat one another.
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cunny status?
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>prompt nude, pussy
>pants are on, up and buttoned
wtf going on
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>>8476255
you're telling me I can jailbreak the ai and gen kurumuz?
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>>8476259
Literally 0 cunny gens posted KEKAROO
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>>8476239
Can't hear you over the sound of my 4090 doing 3 second gens and 10 seconds for a full 4k hires.
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>>8476258
>being kind = give me free shit
USAID is over.
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>>8476221
I tried some e621 artists but they don't seem to work.
I'm not too familiar with furry artists though so maybe some of the most popular ones will work
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/ss/ status?
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so naiggers, you can do whole doujin pages in single gen now, right?
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>>8476255
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>>8476264
Of course it's magatard, sigh...
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Not going to cope bros
I don't like it. Don't know what the fuck they did with artist tags, but it's impossible to get a consisted style
Maybe it's SMEA missing but I'm not sure about that
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cnnuycord is having a party
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>>8476267
Correct. Creating the first ever v4 manga (for my Patreon only) as we speak.
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>>8476270
>Maybe it's SMEA missing
wait wtf there's no SMEA? that was what made all the v3 gens actually look better than anything else, it was an instant style+ button

how the fuck could they release v4 without it
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THIS SHIT FUCKING SUCKS
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>>8476265
I meant artists that exist predominantly in sites like panda (nasipasuta for example) but yeah.
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v4 leak doko?
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>>8476275
nasipasuta seems to work, but he also has 100+ images on danbooru.
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nogens, we must come together and reach 6k while naisissies are waiting for their gens. localsissies are too busy malding to post. this is our chance
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no refunds ;)
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their servers are blowing up, takes 1 minute for a gen.... i thought they were falling into obscurity
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>>8476270
SMEA was pretty much mandatory to make my shit not look like ass.
Guess this is a flop, I'm going back to genning 1girl pov cowgirl on local.
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>1girl pov cowgirl on local
hell yeah brother
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>>8476278
Yeah, my issue with "works" is that it's probably doing his very early style. Same thing happens with artists like Takeda Hiromitsu where 90% of the danbooru uploads are from 10+ years ago and the current style has like top 10 images.
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I thought this model was supposed to be super hyper efficient or some bullshit
or is the real issue that people gave up on v4 and went back to v3 because they don't want to waste their $25?
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>>8476229
thanks for the doll idea anon very cute
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>>8476284
NAI69420 could never
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>generation timed out
nyo...
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So how do I make it look good? Natural language doesn't really work well.
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>>8476291
Wouldn't surprise me if natural language only really works for sfw pinups
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>>8476229
>ai can finally do vibrator cords without fucking it up
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>>8476285
This is what it looks like
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naixisters...
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This is the best i got before it went crasheroo, which is only a few tries. It's definitely different, V3 prompts which produced gold (albeit with problems) don't work. More detail seems to help this model, as does using the character function. adding a "{{{NSFW}}}" tag at the top helped a lot for me. I dont know how i feel about it yet, but i'm hoping it handles monster girls better specifically, which it kind of seems to.
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Guys who won I need to fucking know!
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The definitely fucked something up during release.
Using the exact same prompts with the exact same setting I used on curated is giving me a infinitely worse result
I hope adding the furry booru to the dataset didn't mess everything up
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first gen
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how come kurumuz has enough money to bake one flop after another? isn't he always whining about tight margins?
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someone with v4 try genning smut with a completely SFW artist
I'm curious how bad the disconnect in inference is.
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where is the v4 leak?
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Local won hard
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>>8476302
>>>/aco/
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>>8476300
logal :DDDDDD
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I CAN'T PROMPT
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So artist mixing is fucked? Simply listing two made it pick up the style of one and literally nothing changed once I removed the second (which also works on its own).
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>>8476309
it understands deepthroat nicely
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v5 any day now, tik tok localkeks
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>>8476302
oh yeah, might as well see if it can do the shiny groid style
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>>8476308
haru57928031 has 156 entries on danbooru so I assume that should work.
otherwise I think mochizuki kei is completely SFW and has over 500
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>>8476312
Put the artist mixing in the actual character descriptions, not the prompt. Otherwise it's super jank and fucky.
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>style mixing is essentially dead
>many artists are completely fucked, tags like "newest"/etc don't seem to do anything
>natural language was hyped, but doesn't seem to do much
>text is a meme if you want to do anything beyond a word or two
>upscaling is shit
>no vibe transfer
>no SMEA
>literally regional prompting meme to separate characters beyond what v3/local can already do
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS
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>>8476313
wowow
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>>8476312
Yo bro you just have to write about the style
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>>8476295
Yeah that's the early style.
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>>8476209
Kinda esoteric, innit?
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I’m gonna be honest, bros. So long as I can keep genning paizuri and blowjobs, I don’t care.
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>>8476320
Like a poem? Or a haiku maybe?
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Sure is a lot of FUD being spammed when the model has been out for less than an hour. How long did it take for people to get decent looking gens out of v3? A couple months?
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>>8476257
that was a hefty nut. ty.
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>V3 is yet another case of "he got lucky"
>V4 is DoA
>V5 will just be a damage control mix aka V3+patches
Every time.
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>>8476313
It can do x-ray deepthroats as well though I can't seem to get it to show actual cum going down the throat
I'd post some prooompts but this shit is taking forever to even generate
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>>8476324
Ask the specifics to this guy >>8476146
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>>8476323
you don't have a gpu?
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>>8476326
hexo sexo
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>>8476321
Can you post one of his images with his newer style?
Maybe I have to add some extra tags
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>>8476329
I'm still astounded how they haven't banned him from talking in their official channels.
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>>8476329
>Guise our model is the best, you just need to ask chat gpt to write everything for you because you're probably too retarded to understand how the prompting works!
lmao
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>>8476325
I'm not paying to be figuring all this magical shit out, I'm paying for the ease of use compared to local (well, at least I thought so). And no, v3 was super easy to use out of the box and immediately looked nice as soon as you applied an artist style to it.
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>>8476329
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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>>8476335
Is that some random retard or someone in the actual dev team?
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>>8476329
Is that sarcasm?
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>>8476325
my very first V3 gen shocked me by it's quality
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>>8476329
Damn, Is this your dream model NAIkeks?>>8476329
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>>8476341
He has the Anlatan team role but I have no idea if he's just a community manager or an actual dev
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>>8476339
>ease of use
LOL

especially with this new architecture, LOL
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>>8476331
I’m usually genning on my phone, in bed, with my dick in my hand. I don’t like jerking off at my PC, it’s uncomfortable.
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NAIfags are promptlets confirmed
They can only type 1girl, standing and hope for any model to shit something decent.
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>>8476346
Yeah, then what's even the point? I can be slopping at low res on local just as well, and I don't need to spend half of my paid subscription time just to figure out how to mix a couple of styles.
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>>8476332
Nuns are hotter when fully dressed
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>>8476350
well it worked on v3
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>>8476350
goes to show that 90% of NAI images ever posted in these threads had artist mixes that people stole from other people's gens
the only creatives left have all moved to local
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>v3 couldn't do fellatrix, like his style but not the stuff he draws
>v4 can barely do it and it looks like ass despite having 300 images on danbooru
I don't understand. V4 seemed like it was gonna be great from the preview but this is just ass. Is it no smea? I don't get it, it feels worse than v3
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>>8476350
>They can only type 1girl, standing
Works for me on local.
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>concerning amount of actual naiggers in the thread
grim
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>>8476302
>>8476313
Why Yang? She works totally fine on base illustrious and pony.
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>>8476359
who do you think has been shitting up the thread for the past year without posting any images after they couldnt afford their subs anymore
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what will come first, v5 or decent wan2.1 video indie R18 animation finetune/loras?
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freejeet already shitting his pants over v4 and only 3 gens were posted roflmaoooo
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i'm not a naigger
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What's the most unknown character you could prompt with curated? I want to try something
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is NoobAI still the best local model? been a while since I played around with this
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>>8476356
>fellatrix
>>>/aco/ and never come back holy fuck
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Trying out some v3 prompts on v4 with my leftover Anlas. Looks pretty nice, but the reasons that made me drop v3 are still there, so won't resub.
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Should've gone SDXL again, eh?
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>>8476334
https://litter.catbox.moe/w1wvwn.webp
https://litter.catbox.moe/dnhbpz.webp
https://litter.catbox.moe/8sza0o.webp
https://litter.catbox.moe/6zy6s1.jpg
https://litter.catbox.moe/xsrjnh.webp

Can you try to recreate any of those?
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>>8476366
EWWWWWWWW THAT'S POOP
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>>8476369
Slop.
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>>8476373
dude that was like 3 posts off what happened
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>>8476373
>>8476369
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>Character I did hundreds of gens with on curated now can't be recognized by the full version
Excuse me?
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>>8476326
i got you bwo
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just keep fucking sluts at the end of the day, nothing new
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>>8476371
Turns out it's a bad idea to include realism data with cunny, who could have seen this coming? Actual fucking retards
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>>8476377
had to make room for e621 somehow.
please understand.
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>>8476377
The character was curated out.
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>>8476370
should have just copied the entire flux arch instead of just the vae
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>>8476377
Which character?
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NovelAI Diffusion V4 Full登場!アニメ風イラスト生成最強AIツール
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WHERE IS THE NAI V4 CUNNY!!!!!!!
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>>8476384
22 gigs models aren't worth it, anon.
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>>8476373
bwos don't appreciate the upper thigh mole. What has the world come to
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will sdxl ever be topped for price/performance?
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i hate moles
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NAIv4 can't see sam :'<
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>>8476387
I genned some, so at least I can confirm it can do it (although only worked for me with a cunny-specific artist). Looked like shit though.
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Can we still have a 3k even if the model is disappointing?
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>>8476394
>even if
that was the plan
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think we're plenty on the rate to 3k, depends how quickly the shit flinging putters out
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uh... bros?
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what the fuck is wrong?? this is my go-to artist for testing. it looks covered in a layer of digital gloss, and why does v4 have so many fucking fried artifacts look at the fucking face. cascade was the only model to get this artist right somehow
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>>8476399
16ch vae... wtf...
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>>8476399
Jesas...
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the NAIrrative comes crashing down
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So with that out of the way, Pony v7 status??
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>>8476399
What sampler and scheduler? I need to see this for myself.
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>>8476399
it's brown
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>>8476398
>we aren't sure how we made it work so we cant do it again
WHY DOES THIS FUCKING KEEP HAPPENING WITH EVERY GOOD AI THING
IS IT ALWAYS JUST GOING TO BE ACCIDENTS
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>>8476385
Playable character from unknown french game
Exact same prompt and settings, no artists
Full version only has the dark skin because it was prompted
https://files.catbox.moe/qdz9ip.png
https://files.catbox.moe/ghwkfj.png
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>>8476398
Meanwhile in local
>New samplers everyday
>Good Controlnet
>Shitmixes to choose from
>Video gen
Naisissies on suicide watch
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>>8476399
jordach was the visionary
and you despised him
you deserve this
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>>8476348
Yes mochizuki kei is definitely one of the artists NAI v4 is struggling with.
Other artists work really well, there are only a few from my testing that just kinda shit the bed.
>Left
NAI
>Right
Local
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>>8476408
>unknown fr*nch game
anon we've all watched omelette du fromage
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for the curious ones (if you're not afraid of me glowing), my bot @imgfun_bot in telegram has full nai v4 right now with all resolutions, just do /nai to see all params and usage examples. will leave it running for some time
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>>8476412
is she a dwarf?
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>>8476408
How the fuck everything is different? Not even the same hair color etc.
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>>8476416
samplers need to be implemented individually for each model
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>>8476417
HE'S JUST VERY BIG LIKE A TITAN OK
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>>8476412
pick me a good one ubel ;)
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>>8476412
Localpoors, our answer to this piece of Art?
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>>8476416
Because v4 is a different architecture and they are going to change it even more with newer versions
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>>8476399
cascade's 1b btw. remains the only model to get the artist (egami) skin texture correct.
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>>8476415
>v4
uhh no thanks
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>>8476424
What's stopping you from baking a lora if you care so much about his style?
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>>8476415
>v4
uhh yes thanks
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So how do we get lax to convert noob to a 16ch vae? SDXL is king, clearly
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>>8476411
Momobox for the right one?
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are furries to blame yet again?
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>>8476418
https://files.catbox.moe/ix0ou1.png
https://files.catbox.moe/dwoj5q.png
Wish I knew
This one took the green hair and just applied it to everything? Ant the other is a demon girl with lamps for horns
Every prompt is a completely different character while curated would at the very least keep skin and hair color consistent
I really hope this was a rushed release and they're still working on the details
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NAIv4 looks dogshit with my patreon slop blend that normally looks "good". what the fuck how did this shit downgrade
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>>8476431
maybe bird guy was right >>8475365
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I'm intellectually challenged, so he is GPT, but I am requesting help from DeepSeek. Aren't you different?
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Bwos.... not like this.. friedey night RUINED!
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>>8476409
what new samplers?
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just put the cunny in the bag
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Final thoughts after testing all my regularly used artist tags:
NAI V4 is a good model, it just struggles with a handful of artists.
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>>8476415
Thanks
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https://files.catbox.moe/t3hzoy.png
i'm slopping with default settings and no one can stop me
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V4 quality tags have rating:general on by default btw
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>>8476443
they don't actually, v4 curated does, v4 full does NOT
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>>8476443
Only curated, but full still needs you to put nsfw in the prompt.
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bros,,,
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>>8476443
no they don't, just read their website bwo
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>>8476448
holy shit
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>>8476447
gen is good, but wow, the style is shit
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>>8476448
proompt and more
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where are the cunny gens nai bros
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>>8476245
That's probably just the upscaler, try this
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>>8476447
it gets it right everytime. melina fellatio, marika rimjb
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>v3
>no longer recommended for use
KEEEEEEEEEEEEKAROOOOOOO
V4 IS ABSOLUTE SHIT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I just don't get the logic of artist mix working on the curated half finished version but being missing from the full thing
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>>8476462
It works better on full for me.
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>>8476459
we peaked here
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>>8476415
thx it works
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>>8476463
It's the same issue as noobai.
Can do a lot of things, but the aesthetics are kinda mid.
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test
https://files.catbox.moe/ztot2l.png
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>>8476465
>wetterwarnung
Bro get to the shelter.
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>>8476436
N-n-nyo IT'S FRIDAY NIGHT MUTHERFUCKERS, WHAT ARE YA GENNING?
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>>8476463
what does SMEA do?
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>>8476469
couldn't have had a better post number for that
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do artist tags not work properly on naiv4 or something? wtf
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>>8476465
NAI wonn'd
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>>8476475
you are passing them properly right? with spaces, without escaping, just like "doroshe (sdpw8474)" for example, or even better "artist:doroshe (sdpw8474)" (sometimes makes the effect too strong)
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rimjobgods won
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>>8476472
SMEArs
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>>8476477
still need to bake a lora on that guy's stuff
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>>8476478
wow this is so boring
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>Falsflagger keeps posting disgusting shit to cope with NAI superiority
Every new version we go through this, and every time you end up losing...
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Do we still use {} and [] for "weights" on v4?
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have we figured out what the forbidden keyword is yet? how do we jailbreak this
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>>8476484
ye
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>>8476475
they don't, im comparing the exact same tags between curated and full, the option is straight up gutted in full and in curated, works better than v3
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>>8476487
works fine for me with loli artists like comodo
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>>8476485
find the closest tokens to it in encoding space and let them average out to the forbidden token in a triangulation fashion
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>>8476477
do you need to change it? they work fine when I swap back to naiv3. I think their artist tags are just fucked
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>>8476356
damn ,that's a nice meme idea for the clown hours
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>>8476490
idk anon, artist tags work fine for me
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>>8476475
What artist doesn't work for you?
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>>8476488
im trying with the artist that did to love ru, it does not work
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>>8476415
You gonna run it tomorrow again? I'm a Euro, gotta go to bed now (can't afford subbing rn).
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>>8476495
maybe, depends on usage
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What if artists actually work well, but they're hidden behind some secret sauce so the turk can avoid getting sued?
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Now that the dust has settled, was V4 overhyped?
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>>8476493
just tried van gogh and got nothing even close, how does it not know him?
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>>8476496
I see, thanks again.
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well it need good prompts actually
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>>8476498
100% overhyped, but it's still cool.
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>>8476377
I've run into this as well, full being unable to do stuff I can do in curated
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>>8476498
well, artist tags getting absolutely butchered kills it for me but the improvement to general consistency, multiple characters and positioning is geniuenly amazing
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>>8476493
I have the typical redrop, cutesexyrobutts, orange maru combo, so it's all fooked

first naiv3
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>>8476499
at least you can still gen this
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>>8476501
now do non-groid
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v4 can do tribadism and nursing handjob,
for the time being i am satisfied
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>>8476498
abso-fucking-lutely
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>>8476505
same prompt with v4
????
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>>8476499
It probably only knows danbooru artists.
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>>8476499
write an essay describing a mid impressionistic period painting by a famous painter
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Rimjob model.
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Mixing artists without weight tasks seems to just make it prioritise one while ignoring the others
Mixing artists but reducing the weight of all the names does produce a different style that carries remnants of identifiable traits but it's not really something that'd make me go 'yeah that's supposed to be artist X'
You can probably find something you like as long as you aren't too anal about it absolutely needing to look like X and Y from a twitter or booru near (You) but it does feel needlessly janky so far
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I think I might be getting somewhere
Try prompting
Draw by _ and _ and so on
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>>8476501
post prompt
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imagine they discontinue v3 shortly after
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>>8476511
Mixes are different now, but the individual artists should still work.
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migu
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mixes are not different, they are fucking dead
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>>8476519
well fuck,what did they change about the mixes?
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>>8476523
directly prompted text kino
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>>8476523
Nice esl.
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Wildcards are fun.
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>>8476526
What's wrong with it? Teach me, oh native speaker god.
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>>8476524
emphasis is semi-borked and tags are much stronger than they should be
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>>8476415
damn its so fast what GPUs do they use?
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its ok i guess but the concept knowledge is not up to my exacting standards
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this is "4chan" prompt with no quality/no negative preset, it gets really weird
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Still on track for 3k, hold strong gentlemen!!
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>>8476345
pretty sure he's an ancient dev who almost exclusively works on the text gen side of things
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Now that we can gen rimjobs, is that it? The endgame?
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okay so it looks like I'm not the only one who had their artist combo get fucked over in v4
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Hahahaha
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need good mix
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>>8476537
Just gen single artist rimjobs bro.
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>>8476542
this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nai V4
Pros: Natural language prompting works well, way better at doing niche fetish stuff and character placement
Cons: overall style quality drop, artists mixes are fucked, needs more experimentation

Two steps forwards, two steps back
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how did they manage to fuck up the artist mixes so bad?
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>>8476544
>overall style quality drop
wrong
it does SINGLE artists very well
mixing is fucked tho
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i need to figure out how this subsurface scattering shader works or get a better diffuse map, just fucking with the normal isn't working all that great
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>>8476547
>it does SINGLE artists very well
not really
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yep kino, idk what that stain is though
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>>8476546
>>8476532
this shit is stupid and NOT hot
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>>8476541
i can't believe you already read my mind
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>>8476549
idk the ones i care about it does well, better than v3
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>>8476541
Lemon, aloe vera, cucumber. Very refreshing beverage.
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>>8476554
my problem is that it did the artists better in the fucking curated version, they must have fucked up their "retraining"
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damn i wish i did fap this morning
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>>8476547
Ratatatat74 looks weird from my tests
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>>8476547
Surely that wasn't a conscientious choice
They're much more likely to get into trouble by some artist finding someone perfectly copying their style over someone copying the way they draw eyes and the way someone else draws skin and so on
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Seems like it's still a bit retarded when you're doing 2 characters interactions with several characters features and actions/positioning. Not v3 or Noob retarded but not getting everything perfect either, oh well.
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>>8476552
been a hot minute since somebody said this to me
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>>8476561
example? did you use the proper action tags? the source/target ones?
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so far its about 10x better than v3 with way less fucked up anatomy, can do concepts v3 could not, better composition, better artist replicating (optionaltypo is my only test so far), and the character shit is really cool, + the text is great as well, and im still noob with prompting v4
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i like it, it does feel a bit like 3.5 instead of 4, it's got a lot of the same quirks but it knows mushiro and that makes me happy :)
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>>8476561
>>8476564
i mean those:
https://docs.novelai.net/image/multiplecharacters.html
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It's not cheating if it's oyakodon.
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>>8476565
Soo much that!
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how the fuck do i prompt text in v4 i cant figure it out!!! word bubble text i mean
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>>8476561
also regards positions, you can set them manually actually, although it works very approximately
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>>8476565
how good is it at natural language? is it still tag or can i give it specific instructions now?
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>>8476571
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>>8476567
Gonna try it, didn't know about that. It does the main action well, but mixes up the secondary. Like the rimjob is right but the hand positions for both characters are often wrong (I specified both). Or if one character is nude and the other is in underwear or closed tends to "undress" the other one more (once again, all the underwear and clothing are specified for both).
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>>8476574
tags will still work better but yeah natural prompting will work
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>>8476573
if you want two characters physically interacting you need to pick the same square for both
just saying
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>text prompting,
i never understood why this was important
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>>8476575
thank you, where can i find this documentation?
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Try the tags, pc98, pixel art, dithering :)
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>>8476580
https://blog.novelai.net/introducing-novelai-diffusion-v4-full-928e759620ea
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>>8476581
wow nice
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>>8476568
is the "caught" tag all you really need to get the voeyism/reaction pose to work well with one of the girls watching?
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>>8476574
It works well for things like specifying relative positions that can't really be described in tags.
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>>8476583
it gets much more kino if you disable quality tags though
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>>8476550
>>8476577
wow.
where were you today when v4 won?
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https://x.com/ayane_15/status/1895632907286503609
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>>8476590
holy fucking SOUL
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>>8476579
you can grift pretty well with it for patreon bait unironically. normies love dialogue.
now if only they fixed the broken artist combos
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>>8476592
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>>8476582
>trained using 230,000 H100 hours
assuming they used 1/3rd of the 512 cluster it's about 56 days
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>>8476592
>240 followers
im sorry why do i care about this persons shit opinion
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>>8476594
>muh grfiting
Go back, tranny.
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Remember to add "fur dataset" to the negatives
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>>8476601
no need, its not activated by default, the wording is basically saying "if you want e621 tags add 'fur dataset' tag"
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is it just me or do some of the results when doing r18 stuff with V4 come out with like the whole image really blurry?
it almost looks like when a gen gets aborted 70% of the way through. wonder if their gpus are dying
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>>8476601
>add this to negatives
>all my artist mixes start working just like v3
WHAT THE FUCK LOL
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>>8476601
Nyo, I'm getting knotted.
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submit
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>>8476606
nice bait
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>>8476601
thanks, i'll be putting it in positive
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>>8476584
Didn't even prompt for that. It was a happy accident.
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>>8476608
>2girls
she has a nice penis...
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>>8476604
Make sure you have the "nsfw" tag in your prompt.
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https://files.catbox.moe/mmr6lo.png
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>>8476615
do you like children?
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what is it with saas cucks and their black penis obsession?
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>>8476617
falseflag local genners buying nai and prompting bbc porn is a tale as old as time
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>>8476601
Putting it into negatives actually drastically changed my results, don't know if it's the artists Im using or something else
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>>8476619
surely
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>>8476619
And if you take your meds?
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https://x.com/Ainiwaffles/status/1895631723985322027
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>>8476591
That's actually some really nice bukkake.
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why pay for nai when you can get paid on civit?
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>>8476624
why can't people just check the network request? that's what I did for my bot, the presets are:

const NEG_PROMPT_PRESETS = {
"none": "",
"light": "blurry, lowres, error, worst quality, bad quality, jpeg artifacts, very displeasing",
"heavy": "blurry, lowres, error, film grain, scan artifacts, worst quality, bad quality, jpeg artifacts, very displeasing, chromatic aberration, multiple views, logo, too many watermarks",
} as const


and quality toggle is:
", no text, best quality, very aesthetic, absurdres"
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>>8476624
https://docs.novelai.net/image/tags.html

Soul...
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>>8476626
is this safe sex?
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>>8476626
this is IMPOSSIBLE on local btw
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>>8476631
NAI woneed
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>>8476629
the one on the right looks much better though. they must've messed up their training data
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>>8476594
but cant you just..put the text in yourself?
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>>8476635
this is from v3
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>>8476634
that's a nice looking hallway to be honest
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>>8476629
>worst aesthetic
this is ryukishi07 slander
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finally, local is on the same level as NAI
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>>8476634
Styleroni?
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>>8476638
v3 > v4
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Login now to unlock the power of NovelAI Diffusion V4 — your next masterpiece is just a prompt away!
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>gen salute girls on naiv4
>they finally fixed the double salute issue but didn't fix the legs won't FUCKING uncross you dumb slut just stand at attention issue
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I'm just going to bed and when I wake I'm sure they'll have announce an upcoming fix
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>>8476626
cinema
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ever since v4 got released, I managed to grift a bit under 100k subscribers on pixiv. thank you nai!
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so do we still use {{{ emphasis }}} brackets with v4 or no?
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>>8476653
yes
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so how do I fix an artist mix on v4? is it just totally borked for now?
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>>8476653
not with artists, deemphasis is the name of the game
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>>8476656
deemphasis?
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>>8476655
just like v3 you test it and mix with other artists until you get something you like

how did any of you get your mixes for v3 to being with
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>>8476655
Experiment with []s and lesser known (weaker) artists.
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>>8476507
any pics comparing mixes from v3 and v4 using this?
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So what is the consensus of v4? This thread exploded when v3 was released
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>>8476659
nigga I stole that shit from some guy who made it and didn't know what metadata was lol
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>>8476662
you should basically treat it like v1 - first experiment. since v4 is 100% their own custom architecture, not sdxl or anything, v5 would be actual kino since they would learn from their mistakes
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>>8476662
Right now it seems to be a downgrade quality wise
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>since v4 is 100% their own custom architecture, not sdxl or anything, v5 would be actual kino since they would learn from their mistakes
new cope just dropped
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>>8476507
>mixes the artstyles of
should I keep the brackets?
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>>8476667
Experiment with the number of [[[brackets]]]
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>>8476659
the only style i ever liked out of V3 was shutenfag's
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>cope
explain without sounding like a paid shill
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>>8476670
do you have it saved by chance?
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^ lol
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>>8476658
[]
artist tags are too strong so you need to deemphasize the strong ones if you want to attempt to mix them
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>>8476671
you literally are a paid shill
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>>8476507
metadata example pls anon
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>>8476666
>making their own architecture
hubris, this is going to be horrible
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>>8476674
ah, im not much of a mixer, but good to know ty!
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Just spent two hours sorting all my gens from December to today.
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>>8476494
same anon here, took the advice to deemphasize artist tag, doing it as "[[artist:yabuki kentarou]]" yields much better, but still not perfect result
also removed the artist tag from the individual character prompts and put it in the overall prompt instead
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>>8476680
good boy
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so far v4 is exceeding my expectations and im still in the very early noob testing phase, cant wait to master it
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So uh what's the meta for local right now? Still noobpred or are there better options?
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base quality is clearly miles above whatever the fuck localkeks have but who knows how far you can push it
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B-bros.. can v4 do Solange? Local community would take a crippling hit if we lose Sir Solangeanon to v4. Please check!
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>>8476684
pony mixes
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>>8476662
Better composition, better prompt coherence, much worse style adherence. Wait for v5.
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>>8476684
you must pay for novelai
there is no alternative
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okay so adding [] on artist tags does get shit looking more normal on prompts. guess you just got to brute force this shit autistically to get back to "normal". why did they think it was a good idea to make these so damn powerful
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have they added any juicier snake oil options?
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>>8476687
Really? Thought Illustrious mogged pony
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>>8476693
HE HAS SPOKEN
V4 IS DEAD
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>character recognition is quite good just like previous nais
waow

https://files.catbox.moe/iykum6.png
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>>8476693
I think no smea is why it looks so....undetailed. What a fucking let down
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>v4 loses pedoanon
IT IS SO FUCKING OVER
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>>8476693
>nipples seem to vary from being hyper detailed to non existent, might be related to the artist issues
have you considered putting "nipples" into your prompt?
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>>8474642 (OP)

Noob here.
How to extend image / outpaint with Automatic1111 stable diffusion ?
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>>8476693
>filtered within an hour
pathetic
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>>8476693
yeah i have noted some serious nipple problems and obviously half the artists are fucked
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>>8476699
i just open the image in gimp, extend canvas, then inpaint the new area
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>>8476686
she works with proper tagging
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>>8476705
If it's good, don't post her, anon. We can't lose Sir Solangeanon..
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>>8476625
thx. both anons who suggested mizumizuni and doppel are the cum kings.
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>>8476706
why do you have it out for that guy so much, this is kind of getting cringey
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>>8476693
any tips for wrangling artstyle mixes?
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>>8476692
it does
this is a troll thread for the next few days
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>>8476693
The pillar has come back, and has spoken...
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>>8476693
>different quality tags
>tags too strong out of the box
>doesn't like doing emphasis because see above
anon i enjoy your posts but you're being slightly retarded here, prompts aren't drag and drop from v3
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>>8476708
He's the only pillar I recognize.
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>>8476710
>>8476693
are you the real one? why did you leave us?
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>>8476710
HOW DID WE REGRESS THIS MUCH
I don't CARE if it can do shit like two girls better if the overall quality is a massive downgrade.
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>>8476715
>thinking he knows better than shutenanon
where is your image faggot? the dude basically pioneered and perfected genning with v3
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>>8476693
looks like a complete downgrade. no surprise that unet remains superior to modern snakeoil architectures. flow/dit were a mistake, t5 even more so
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>Try old v3 prompt on v4
>Damn this looks like shit
>Try it on v3
>Still look like shit
>Realize smea was off
>Looks good now
I think I found the answer guys
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>>8476724
Didn't they say smea isn't in v4 because they couldn't figure it out?
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I just got home, so what's the verdict?
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>>8476619
wtf? i want to pay $25 and make bbc porn nao.
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>>8476729
Actually unironically grim as fuck
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>>8476723
>t5 even more so
T5 is such a retarded decision, I'm dumbfounded this is still standard to this day. SD 3 medium, for example, has 2B parameters for the image generation part and ~6B parameters for the text generator. I hope everyone can see how retarded that is.
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>>8476729
very good but some anons are dooming bc they suck ass at prompting with a brand new model (shocker)
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>>8476727
Poor guys only had one and a half year, give them a break
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How's the loli situation looking on v4? Does anyone feel like NAI "curated" the data a little more?
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>>8476729
who care's about facts? whatever opinion I state on what's shit or not means it's exactly that
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>>8476734
how to prompt,
i want /ss/ ffm threesome stuff, thats not too muich to ask is it sd?
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it sucks in terms of details. you can't be serious.

what was the MUH 16channel vae for then?
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>>8476734
Funny how all post like these never share any prompts
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>>8476742
text
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>>8476742
text
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I'll just post sakura, fuck it
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>>8476732
why have we not evolved past T5/clip?? this stuff is from 2019, 3 years before SD1.4 even.
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do you think they'll make fixes to the v4 model or are we stuck with it for a year?
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>>8476693
add the tag close-up and maybe portrait
don't capitalize "NSFW", and try without it
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>>8476749
I mean they should, v3 knowledge is outdated asf
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realistically, they'll iron out the kinks like vae color artifacting and maybe tune the samplers to fix details/"brush" textures if lucky
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>>8476745
Why do all NAIV4 gens look.. "fried"? Idk if that's the right word, but it's almost like they're all artifacting.. but not really? I'm going schizo
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>>8476748
There is no other encoder architecture available out there for language. LLMs went Decoder only a few years ago, and so will generate shit embeddings. No one cares about proper text embeddings because they have to move fast and break things.
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>>8476720
some other anon said they tried to build from scratch instead of SDXL based
which is probably good if they want to avoid ever paying stability licence fees, but probably much worse as an actual model
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>>8476753
because without SMEA they literally are all fried. it was what saved 99% of the styles from v3
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so where is the writeup or video on how 2 prompt v4 before i squander the few anlas i had leftover?
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>>8476753
maybey it was trained on ai ?
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ayo dis da powa of NAI?!
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>>8476755
Did they really train from scratch, though? Training from scratch is hard as fuck, takes a ton of compute (not only to train, but also prepare data) and requires Billion-scale datasets. I honestly think paying stability's fee is just cheaper (and likely yields better results - you need to know a lot of things to train one of these from scratch). This sounds so stupid that it must not be true.
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Even when you manage to get some mix working there's no consistence
At seemingly random one one artist tag will overpower the other and mess the style
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>>8476736
see
>>8476693
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+ her degenerate gf
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>thought the 3k text posts would be NAI v4 absolutely mogging local and people seething for an entire day
>turns out v4 is actually just shit and the 3k text posts is people laughing at it all day
i really shouldnt have bought an opus sub yesterday and just waited it out, mother fucker
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did NAi not realize some of the best stuff that came from their model was people blending artstyles?
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>>8476761
>takes a ton of compute (not only to train, but also prepare data)
they have it
>requires Billion-scale datasets
not true
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>>8476767
they didn't break it on purpose, it stopped working
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>>8476764
>"mix the artstyles of__"
Does NAI not support alternating prompts? eg: "[artist1|artist2|...] on forge / A1111.
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nipples look fine to me
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>>8476769
How the fuck does it just stop working?
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>>8476771
yeah i think that other poster is just a retard that doesnt know how to prompt or maybe it is because all he prompts are children
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TWO MORE YEARS OF SDXL
MINIMUM
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>>8476771
>v4 shits out slop that looks like local stuff 2 years ago
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>>8476742
The frying around the extremities is better but it's still makes anatomical errors, it's basically a complete failure.
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>>8476768
>they have it
Last I heard, they had 256 GPUs, which is not really a lot. They could maybe do one run, but then they can't ablate.
>not true
It is, though, if you want something minimally knowledgeable. What's your counter example here that was trained with fewer images from scratch?
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NAI4 RECOGNIZES CLYMENIA ARTSTYLE, THANKS KURUMUZ
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>>8476771
nice NAIv1 gen
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>>8476780
>which is not really a lot
it is a lot because they're H100s, anon, you're comparing image models to text models aren't you?
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There will be another pioneer for v4 like Truck-kun during v3
Trust the plan
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>>8476773
v4 is a completely different architecture
v3 was an SDXL finetune, v4 is 100% their own model from scratch (the only pre-trained thing they use is a VAE iirc)
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Claudefag is really working overtime pretending to be all these different posters with his 10 phones all so that he can try to trick people into thinking NAI v4 is actually bad when it's the best AI image gen model that has ever been released to the public.
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>>8476784
No anon, read the SD3 paper, for example, and check the numbers. It might have been OK in SD 1.5 days. Not anymore.
Also, the DiT models are very comparable to text models, now.
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>>8476790
anon, they don't need a general fucking model, they're making an anime one. it doesn't know shit outside of danbooru, you can easily check that yourself.
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>>8476780
didnt they publish something along the lines of V3 spent a lot more joules to finetune SDXL than Stability did to train SDXL in the first place
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>>8476791
It definetely knows things outside of Danbooru. Danbooru has 0 Clymenia image yet NAI4 can immitate it near perfectly.
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>>8476715
>prompts aren’t drag and drop from v3
Yeah, that’s part of the problem.
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What's the odds they actually release something dealing with all these issues?
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>>8476793
what specific thing are you referring to? i'll check
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>>8476723
read their blogpost, this is still unet lmao.
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>>8476795
Of course they will patch it and anyone that thinks otherwise is trolling.
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see guys it's not nai's fault
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>>8476796
Clymenia, an H-game artist
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>tfw going to have to stick with v3 for a year and not be able to do some characters people try to commission me to make sets of
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>>8476798
I wish I had this much confidence but this fuck up was so massive I'm not sure they even know what to fix
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>>8476736
loli works just fine
quick sloppa with tags i copied but didn't fix beyond swapping cameltoe to cleft of venus
https://files.catbox.moe/l0ovna.png
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>>8476800
it looks like generic anime slop
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>>8476800
i can't even find that artist in google, got any links?
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>>8476791
Anon, you can't train just the anime model. It will be shit. Do you have any experience in this? Anyway, I checked, SD 1.5 was trained on 256 A100s 80GB for a total of ~200k GPU hours. This is like ~1 month? That was 1.5, anything dit likely requires more time. I highly doubt they trained fully from scratch and they probably have some partnership.
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>>8476805
Yeah that's what I am saying, so niche that's he's not even in Danbooru.
https://www.dlsite.com/maniax/circle/profile/=/maker_id/RG23067.html/?locale=en_US
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>>8476806
idk why are you being so adamant, its FROM SCRATCH, they have enough compute, SD 1.5 was an early experiment, current things can be way more optimized, and they use H100s
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>>8476798
thing is, the only way to "patch" a model is to finetune it further or merge a lora into it
both would have far reaching side-effects

they could do some UI fuckery. change your prompt behind the scenes before it reaches the model, like when they removed realistic from the v4 preview.
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>>8476802
>so massive
What are you even talking about? The fact that you can't 1:1 transfer your old prompts into an entirely new model and architecture? Which has literally never been the case in all of history of AI generation? People throwing their hands up and giving up after 20 minutes of fucking around are people with opinions you can promptly throw directly in the garbage.

I think I'll go ahead and continue testing and I guarantee in another week people will not only have found better artist mixes but see how much better this model is than what we've ever had.
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why is nai so blurry
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>>8476807
it looks nothing like your nai gen
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>>8476806
>SD 1.5 was trained on 256 A100s 80GB for a total of ~200k GPU hours. This is like ~1 month
NAI v4 was trained on 200k H100 hours
>has been trained with roughly 230,000 hours of H100 compute.
your point being?
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Anyone know if the inpainting is still just using v3? The interface is nice instead of just eyeballing it with the webui extension.
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>>8476812
v3 didn't support it, that's prompt mixing and its very very different
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>>8476811
The full version is an entirely new model and architecture from the curated version?
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hoping they make naiv3 public in like a year and then we can just use it with lora's and shit on local like they released their OG model
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>>8476819
lmao cope
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>>8476809
I'm asking how you know that, anon. Also, the reason I am doubting you is because that would be such a stupid idea that there is no way multiple layers of people greenlit something this stupid. And trust me, I did my time in stupid VC driven companies, I know some real stupid shit that got greenlit.
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>>8476819
it took them years to officially release a mass leaked model lmao they don't give a shit about local or open sharing that was just an advertisement that cost them nothing
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>>8476814
The body does bro, I gooned to those games for hours, I know for sure how it looks
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>>8476821
They did it because of wanting to free themselves from the licences probably, and a bunch of people sold the people with the money the idea it would just be better doing it this way
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>>8476824
you're schizophrenic
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What I don’t get is how the curated V4 looked better than the full release. How the fuck did that happen?
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kind of eye-opening to see so many nai roaches here. maybe that's why /hdg/ was such a piece of shit these past few months
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>>8476815
my point being that this is a really stupid way to avoid paying the stability license, lol. all that compute costs a lot, but hey, I guess I'm gonna keep getting surprised by waste in AI companies. Congrats to NAI folks.
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>>8476828
You’re an ESL.
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>>8476827
that was always the case, did you not know or what? curated is exactly what it says, its trained on a smaller, higher quality subset of the dataset
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>>8476832
it helps that curated is like 20% of the overall dataset yet still ended up having less snapping issues than pony
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>>8476828
now that v4 is proven to be complete shit and they all wasted 25 bucks we'll have a month of them shitting up the general and then hopefully they off themselves lol
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Artist mixing wasn't intended I guess lmao
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>>8476816
v4 full has inpainting now
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>>8476834
prompt for that scene?
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>>8476836
>remove inpainting
>remove SMEA
>remove artist mixing
so this is the fabled v4 that was supposed to defeat local? seriously?
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>>8476836
>what if we accidentally did something good but then just didn’t even try to replicate it
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>>8476828
It's a new model release, you aren't even a bit curious how well it works? Most will come back to local after that one month.

>>8476831
And?
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>>8476836
this is good
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>>8476836
it accidentally worked because CLIP is really stupid (this is why tags at the front were like 5x stronger than tags at the end)
T5 is smarter but being smarter makes artist mixing not work. the dataset doesn't have mixed artists beyond one artist doing lineart and another doing coloring
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>>8476830
>That's why they're jumping straight to working on v5
Where is this from?
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>>8476836
should've pulled a flux and had dual text encoders, using clip to process artist tags and t5 for the rest
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>>8476838
Have a box: https://files.catbox.moe/slb88f.png

It's basically nipple slip and leaning on another, head on another's shoulder, etc.
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idk why you are all mad that the random hacks that you used don't work anymore. retards, its a NEW model.
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the inpainting model is already in, can the shitposters at least try harder than nai did?
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>>8476834
yeah I bet v4 couldn't even come close to this
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>>8476848
thank you
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nai v5 when
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>>8476849
It’s a new and worse model.
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>>8476855
you're a new and worse human
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T5 CLAIMS ANOTHER VICTIM
how does this keep happening? at least 7 models butchered thanks to T5 by now
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This is so dumb, why can't they just do NAI 3.1?
If it ain't broke, don't fix it
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>>8476852
my frontend has dynamic prompting so i don't need schizo prompting
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>>8476849
Good bait, please post more
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>>8476858
>If it ain't broke
apparently the best parts were the parts that were broken lmao
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>>8476858
Unironically if they just updated the v3 dataset I'd take it over this
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>>8476856
you don't have to aggro because you wasted 25 bucks
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I HATE IPV6
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>>8476857
Anon, I worked in a team developing one of those image models out there. I'm convinced decision makers in these companies are retarded. With a little bit of long term planning, they could train a proper text encoder that's better than clip and T5 and also smaller, then train a pretty good image model. No one wants to do it. Also, the researchers making these models don't use them, so they don't even know what to improve.
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wtf the blur just comes and goes between seeds
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>v4 not even a day old
>already downplaying it to hype up v5
It's over
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ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS UPDATE THE DATASET SO I COULD GEN MY NEW FUCKING GACHASHIT CHARACTERS
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Requesting more busty /catboxing/
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>>8476870
Do they really think anyone’s going to be around for V5 when V4 is an unmitigated disaster? It’s functionally worse than V3 in almost every way.
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>>8476865
i didnt, i steal accounts
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>>8476868
What browser are you using? It forced me to switch to chrome to stop the blur.
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>>8476869
can it do more... interesting angles?
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I WILL KEEP KEKING AT THIS CIRCUS FOR A WHILE
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This update might be shit but don't worry it'll improve as soon as they're done training the very important and often used vibe transfer feature sometime at the end of this year
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>>8476870
That post is from 2/12 though.
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>>8476870
Wdym hyping? This is normal stuff. V4 is their FIRST own model, so obviously with V5 they learned from their mistakes
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it's a bit random, weirdly so. At least its fappable I guess but it really shouldn't sperg out as much as it does.
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>>8476836
why the fuck are NAI so fucking retarded. that was like their whole appeal
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>>8476875
firefox, but I tried a gen on chrome and the results looked identical
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curated spergs out way less for some reason
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>>8476884
It pops up a warning on firefox, I went to chrome and it fixed it for me.
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>>8476883
They likely only realized it after they trained the base model, or at least halfway through. Too late to stop, now. It's what happens when you have internet smart guys instead of PhDs training base models.
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>>8476886
full seems to ignore text prompting more often?
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>>8476882
Yeah but normalfags pay for a month gen some hundreds of images and then fuck off
Their real longstanding userbase area the types to test with mixes and try to find out new ones
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>>8476836
that is so fucking stupid.
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Can anyone gen something that's impossible with current models? LIke some really complicated sex scene with multiple people doing multiple things?
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idk why the artist mixing whining, it mixed just fine for me
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>>8476888
I remember those retards happily announcing the upcoming v4 release the second they started training, instead of you know, waiting a couple days to see if nothing would get fucked
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>>8476893
i mixed your cum with mine
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Hi
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>>8476893
Post, please.
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>>8476887
did you try the same gen seed/settings on both browsers?
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>>8476893
I don't see an image with your post
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>>8476897
>>8476900
i'm on local
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>>8476876
i mean, i imagined this pose as "from side". i can't really imagine what other angles would be good.
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Remember to agree with "artist mixing works" baits
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>>8476876
but just for funsies i tried
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I can't even get the source/target bullshit to work for a simple breast grab
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>>8476902
three-quarter from above?
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>>8476898
Same prompt yes, but using the same seed may be the problem.
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>>8476906
one sec
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>>8476908
she looks rather young
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Yeah I just successfully mixed 4 artists, though their distribution appeared to be like 99.95%, 0.02%, 0.01%, 0.03%
But it mixed :)
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>>8476896
henlo
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V2 was also a mess but at least they replaced that one somewhat quickly
Do you reckon they'll throw out some kind of 4.1 or whatever they'll decide to call it?
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>>8476896
deadnoodles
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>>8476910
BASED!
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>>8476912
With how they keep talking about V5, it feels like V4 is just something to tide people over and get them to stop bringing up a lack of progress.
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>>8476912
lemme guess, "photo (medium), cosplay photo, loli, nsfw"?
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>>8476896
you're very cute
what color panties are you wearing today?
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>>8476912
yes, in exactly 30 days
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>NAI Diffusion Anime V3
>Our previous model. No longer recommended for use.
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>>8476919
so?
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>>8476912
nah, It sounds like they know this is fucked and need to retrain. Honestly, I read that message as "we realized the only way to fix v4 would be to start fresh, so we just released that shit here to get some money from you while we train the model you wanted to pay for".
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>>8476919
They should remove it
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>>8476919
So what exactly happens if they sunset V3 completely and don't allow people to use it?
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>NAI Diffusion V4 Full
>Our newest and best model.
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>>8476922
And open source it.
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>>8476924
nothing?
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It needs SMEA/DYN. V3 looked shit if SMEA was disabled and v4 gens look like that
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>>8476915
> stop bringing up a lack of progress.
If only the same worked for text gen, those poor souls haven't had a single good new model in years
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>>8476927
this, nobody uses v3 anyway
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>>8476929
>8k context
kekorino
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>>8476924
They probably will release the weights like they did with 1.5.
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>>8476929
3.7 is almost as good as Opus while being a fraction as cheap, which is something, at least. If only Anthropic wasn’t staffed by completely retarded faggots obsessed with “””””safety“””””
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>>8476932
open source never ever
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>>8476932
I think they've already said that v3 will never go public.
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>>8476925
The real joke is that it says (No longer recommended) by V3 despite it still being better.
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>>8476932
did they ever release their v2 weights?
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>>8476928
>V3 looked shit if SMEA was disabled
i feel like we're in different timelines, i had the exact same experience but if it was enabled
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>>8476932
they did that because it got leaked a year prior
these pricks will NEVER open source anything ever again
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>>8476933
well, thankfully safety doesn't matter on API where you can do prefills
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I feel really stupid for shitposting for months about wanting v4 to be leaked. They can keep it, kek
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>>8476940
For now, but they’re working on a second filter that everything has to pass through.
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how do i mix artists
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>>8476938
smea was extremely hit or miss depending on the style, it was situational
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>>8476942
anon, it's specifically for chemical shit, they never mentioned it'll be for sexual stuff. and again, there's NO external filter on the API so far, never been
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>>8476912
At least it's something they're aware it's a fuckup but how long until an actually fix comes along? A week? Month? Next year?
I don't know if many people will stick around until then
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>>8476943
you don't need it
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>>8476945
A single employee mentioned that he doesn’t believe it should be for sexual content or anything that isn’t explicitly breaking the law. One employee’s beliefs don’t indicate a company-wide stance, especially when they’re headed up by a stupid fuck who literally split from OAI because he didn’t think they were being safe enough.
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>>8476947
Months
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>>8476949
anthropic mogs openai in models doe
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so uhh.. whats the sota for local models? preferably a model that does fingers right more often than not.
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>>8476951
I agree! Especially after 4.5 costing a trillion dollars to do anything.
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>>8476952
anon, your adetailer? your inpaint?
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>>8476952
Noob
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>>8476952
most likely pony v7
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>>8476957
THISSSSSS
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shame 'bout the mixes but it still feels more fappable than v3
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lol
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fuck it lads I'm going to switch to local.
I do the typical patreon slop combo on naiv3 what local model should I try that might work with it?
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>>8476957
>>8476956
>>8476955
is this a joke? i thought there are models just as good as paid ones? The v7 has like 2 useable styles, and fingers are right maybe 1 out of 20 times. never if 3 people are in a image. are people here shitposting? what are the models that are so good?
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>>8476870
this is a textbook damage control strategy. when your product is shaping up to be underwhelming, begin downplaying its significance while hyping up consumers for distant releases. this lessens the impact of the failure by making it seem like there is more staged in the pipeline than there actually is.
v5 is nothing, they have nothing. despite taking 14 months, v4's architecture is only about 6 months old. there have been no major technological improvements that would suddenly make 'v5' an amazing leap. it's over
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>Yang= hdg
>black man = nai
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>>8476963
no? that was always the case, when v3 just released they started talking about v3, and so on
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>>8476906
forgot about character positioning so it took me a sec. something like this?
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Guys, is it possible to train style LORA off the artist mix in V3 because V4 fucked it up. I might go local at this point.
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>can’t even gen some damn Firefly paizuri in peace with my old artist mixes
This sucks. I waited for this and it fucking sucks, man. I’m going back to V3.
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>>8476963
>there have been no major technological improvements that would suddenly make 'v5' an amazing leap. it's over
While I agree with the sentiment, they probably realized what went wrong with v4 too late and would have to do a full retrain. V5 is what v4 should be if they were being honest. Current v4 is a money grab to keep them afloat while they retrain.
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>>8476967
Yes, see this lora:
https://civitai.com/models/723360/ai-styles-dump-illustriousrouweinoob
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>>8476967
no it is impossible to train off v3 because it is saas model
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>>8476967
>training a lora off AI-generated images
it's possible but awful
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>>8476964
you're a faggot
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>>8476967
yes just make sure the images you use are free from fucky artifacts or else the lora WILL learn them
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Apparently this whole general is just retards who use "artist mixes" instead of actually learning to prompt. LMAO.
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you're telling me v4 can't do better than this?
I hate using loras, why won't they just release noob with an updated dataset...
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>>8476975
so much this. just describe the style via prose. its THAT simple
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>all naigens posted have been the worst thing in a while
Actually fucking grim.
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even the character separation shit doesn't work at all everything is just getting mixed together
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SO TRUE KEK SISTER
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https://litter.catbox.moe/oesnvx.jpg
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highlight anon is going to spit out his drink when he checks back at this thread haha
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>mix
we don't do that here
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>>8476981
>it's been less than a day and nai v4 slop is immediately recognizable
this is fucking tragic
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>>8476982
it'll be like coming back home to a delicious feast opposed to the typical breadcrumbs
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I would really like to see something impossible or really hard with current models. maybe a dude ejaculating inside a woman's mouth (from outside her mouth) while she masturbates with a dildo and tweaks her nipple? Probably prompting for this amount of detail would make this hard on current models.
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if nai gens are bad where are the good local gens??
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>>8476981
this looks like base ponyv6 gen
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>>8476987
Local cannot achieve this, the only one that can is the current State of the Art model NovelAI Diffusion V4
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>>8476987
request anchor plz
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>>8476989
it's nai
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>>8476963
>>8476870
>Best comprehension of all models
>Most styles
>Can actually dogeza and do more than 1girl standing
>Got thousands of new users each month the past few months.
Do you actually believe stating this like that over and over will make it true? Like, that people will go "schizo says bad, so I won't buy"? Like bro you're at it for now 2 years, Everytime I lurk here it's the same dude over and over. They literally doubled their shit views the last month alone.
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>>8476458
oh i see, thanks
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>>8476989
it's nai (real)
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>>8476993
why do you have to defend nai so much tho
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can naiv4 do kobeni holding an empty mug and jerking off a dude to cum inside the mug? (penis must be inside the mug)
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>>8476501
catbox pleasE?
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Why hasn't Cathag posted any images today? Is he okay?
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alright I can't do it anymore this fucking sucks
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>>8476996
how else will i justify my 25$?
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>>8476996
not really. just calling out schizo behavior.
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>>8477000
>based64 shading
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I still have some more tests to try but early results seem promising.
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v4 sucks
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>>8477004
based wanGOD
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>>8477000
man, this takes me to b64 times, nostalgic...
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>>8477005
the worst part about this is that means that fucking retarded nai shitposter is completely vindicated and will only get even more obnoxious
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>>8477004
nice
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>>8477004
how are you getting good results on wan? half of the shit i get is janky dogshit
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>>8477000
add artist:ddolbang
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>>8477004
do you have an allergy to artist styles?
you're not using naiv4, you can make aesthetically pleasing images as base
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>people on twitter all go off how amazing it is
>sever strained so much it takes half a minute for a simple gen
nai will someday sure fall bros..... one more post
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V4 is only good for complex shit or using a single art style
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>>8477014
>people on twitter
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>>8477015
Not even a single artstyle, without SMEA it looks like shit
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>>8477011
this guy is singlehandedly proving all the complaints about nai v4 are from promptlets
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>>8477016
as opposed to people on 4chan? lmao
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>>8474909
>>8476026
If femboy-focused porn is allowed, I think futas should also be allowed.
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>>8477015
I would really like to see some complex shit, though. Why is no one finally trying some hard shit?
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>>8477019
kek indeed
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>>8477018
It's local...
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>>8477014
I'm going to reveal the bitter truth to you, anonie.. Are you ready? Like, really ready? Okay, here you go:
If you gen with Opus ($25 sub) on default res, your gens are put into a shared queue which is slow. Guess what's fast? Genning without an active subscription or with higher resolutions where you get billed anlas ;)
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>>8477010
I'm coming to your aid, its a lora for nsfw
picrel is t2v, but loads onto i2v. its generalized so it'll do some other positions but it will probably be outpaced by trainers with more specific datasets
>>8477013
yes and no, in this case, I find the more 2.5d animates better than strictly 2D, so I had some of these lying around to test. I haven't tried a more anime test just yet.
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>>8477024
local doesnt know that character yet, its only in the newer models like nai v4 retard
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>>8477017
Yeah no SMEA is a fucking blow to my nuts
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>>8477015
I mean when it works, it works. It can do fingers/eyes/little details flawlessly. It's just a complete fucking toss up whether or not it can do literally anything seed to seed.
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>>8477022
so THIS is the power of wan...
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>>8477004
>>8477026
keep it up rrat anon
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how badly would wan perform on 4070ti super (16GB VRAM)?
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>>8477027
what are loras
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v3 vs v4
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NAI v4 is perfect for 1girl abstract surreal images that I can post on my Japanese twitter account.
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>>8477033
we may never know
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>>8477026
BAAASED
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>>8477026
how are you training loras? what's your workflow? there's a l2d specific dataset i was planning on making
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>>8477034
>art vs ai slop
yeah, accurate
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>>8477025
Increasing step count works too.
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>>8477014
Thought it was better, is it still that slow?
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>>8477040
Well yes, anything that makes your gen paid will make it much, much faster. I'm talking like 5 seconds for a FHD gen
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based so much this
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this so much based
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>>8477043
HOW MUCH??
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so this much based
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so based much this
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so, what's next?
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NIGGERS
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How on earth did they fuck this up so badly, any degree of complexity and the image goes to shit.
Nevermind gutting their main attraction with artist mixing.
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>>8477050
you and me kissing
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>>8477050
Pony v7
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>>8477043
>>8477044
>>8477047
>>8477048
literally me
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>3k
Yeah not happening, chudai's.
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this is boring, it was funnier when v3 was released
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>>8477057
we already knew it would be a disappointment, what did you expect?
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I expected nothing and still got disappointed
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now that nai is confirmed dead in the ditch, can we have some oekaki 1girls to celebrate?
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this
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noticed artists in naiv4 seem to be case sensitive, weird
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>>8477065
Danbooru tags are lowercase...?
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I might finally bite the bullet and try to learn local
Is there any up to date retardproof guide?
I gave up last time after reading 7 terms I never knew on the first sentence
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>>8477038
diffusion-pipe
use the example workflow and change the model to "wan" and point to your dataset + wan model
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>>8477067
yeah here's ur guide
>wait for gen u like
>beg for catbox
>import
>????
>ur now a local master
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>>8477067
bad time to ask unfortunately, thread-shitting is at an all time high atm
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>>8477072
That doesn't really teach me how to install a frontend and pick models though
Prompting is the easy part
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>>8477066
idk couldnt get the style until i fixed it
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>>8477021
Experimenting to increase my masturbation efficiency, e.g. trying to unfuck style mixing, takes priority over experimenting to push the boundaries of what it can do.
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>>8477075
how retard proof you need? I agree that there's no good guides but I'm not gonna shake your dick for you
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and then they wonder why people use saas
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literal skill issue.
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>>8477072
Over the years I have asked for catboxes a lot but I don't usually use them hehe. I don't know why I do it but I do know that it feels good to be asked for a catbox so I guess it's kind of like a compliment.
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>>8477021
I tried 1boy 2girl sex and it completely fell flat on it's face, why would I bother doing anything more.
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compliment this dick
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>>8477078
Something like install this followed by this and this?
I hear people going over comfy illustrious pony forge and I've no fucking idea which one goes with who
It's just personal preference?
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>>8477075
>https://github.com/Panchovix/stable-diffusion-webui-reForge?tab=readme-ov-file#installing-forgereforge
>find the torrent of v1+v29b-v2 a few threads back
>you're 90% done
??
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>>8477030
I have no idea how to prompt it, but booru tags feels more stable, background just goes crazy
https://files.catbox.moe/xti570.webm
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Found a random image on danbooru and copied the tags over
Exact same settings on v3 and v4
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/8927847?q=fellatio+
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>>8477089
>uc": "nsfw,
retard
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>>8477089
please don't tell me v4 is the one on the right
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bros how does one run wan2.1 on vast.ai
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>>8476712
gimme prompt... please...
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starting to get better with v4 and holy shit its good
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>>8477091
Yeah
It refuses to do nsfw for some reason, even thought it has the fellatio and explicit tags
I'm sure I can get it working if I put more emphasis on it but it feels like the more {} the more fried the images start to look
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>>8477096
you need to put "nsfw" in your prompt chud
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It's pretty fun if you ignore style mixing
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>>8477098
This skin texture reminds me of miqomix
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That's NYATORASE to you, chudai
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>>8477093
nai could NEVER
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What did they mean by this
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>>8477085
nta but reforge is the easiest to install imo.
pony, illustrious, and noob are the main base models and they all have their own merges it's personal preference which you pick. unless im retarded pony loras basically only work on pony based models, but noob can take illustrious loras pretty well so you can go back and forth pretty seamlessly until you find what you like.
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>>8477075
https://civitai.com/models/1301670?modelVersionId=1469244
here's one. after installing forge you can place it and any vae you choose in their respective folder.
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>>8477031
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>>8477104
it's cope
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>>8477108
whats chuddy trying to accomplish
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>>8476962
v7 isn't even out yet, kurumuz, stop falseflagging.
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free online scuffed nai v4 soon, trust
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>>8477108
And they said vibe transfer wasn't in v4
To me that dude is VIBIN'
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It's truly over
Invest in local now while you still can
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>>8476975
Right!? We just need to describe our artists with a Haiku everytime, it isn't even that hard ffs tbqhf
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>>8477114
this reads like kurumuz is controlling their twitter account
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i am the artist.
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>>8477114
smea was a bad crutch anyway. styles should work without it to begin with. it fucked up anatomy and details. not a v4 shill just saying that wouldn't have saved it.
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>>8477114
the damage control is real
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>>8477114
kekorinooooooooooooooooooo
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>>8476530
Oh so this is why cutesexyrobutts overpowers everything regardless of how much I deemphasize it.
Guess I'll wait a few days for the stuff to be fixed.
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>>8476917
You think she wears panties? Funny
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It's NAIv4
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>>8477113
kek
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>>8477121
>few days
next month, when you'll renew your sub
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kek indeed
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>>8477114
>like you had to do from v2
who's gonna tell 'em?
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didn't see anywhere on their site but is there a way to get a refund for a novel ai subscription?
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>>8477121
I'm having some limited success getting around the overpowering issue by having multiple instances of the artists getting overpowered in the prompt.
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lmoa
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Should I use a vae? Been using Illustrious for like 2 months and haven't been using any vaes
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waow local wonnered!
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>>8476501
this is pretty good, did you prose or tags? did you use the character feature?
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>>8477131
just b urself ;)
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>>8477121
they're not gonna fix it in v4 but CSRB in particular always overpowers other tags out of the box on seemingly every model including v3
just deemphasize it and emphasize the ones that don't show up
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Where were you when v4 died?
I was comfy at home local genning in the cloud.
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it does do deepthroat consistently well so that's cool
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>>8476615
very nice uooh
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so much cope...
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>>8477131
Yes. Don't use the standard one though.
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>>8477136
I was genning Link otoko no ko in his gerudo set alternative outfit.
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>>8477142
Any you'd recommend?
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>>8476681
>also removed the artist tag from the individual character prompts and put it in the overall prompt instead
Can you give an example please?

artist: alice, artist: bob
to
artists: [alice and bob]
is that what you did?
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>>8477144
SharpSpectrum, should be on civitai. But you should try the other ones and see which one you like the most. Tbf sometimes you won't notice anything different unless you have a 99.99% SRGB capable monitor.
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>>8477144
don't listen to him, there is nothing better than base sdxl vae. which is grim
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>>8476765
she's the best
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soon free v4 for some time (yes ai slop code i dont care, still changing it a bit)
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woaw
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you can still style and artist mix btw but it takes brainpower beyond the capabilities of this general and i will not share my wisdom ... :)
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>>8477154
>brainpower beyond the capabilities of this general
So actual knowledge of prompting? NAIkeks would never
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>>8477026
is there a comfy node to save as mp4? not sure why are there so many artifacts because of the resolution or because of the webm
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>>8477150
old style too
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>>8477156
so THIS is the power of wan...
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wangods keep wonning
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>>8477156
try altering the resolution of your image to something like 832x480 or 720x480
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>>8477156
videohelpersuite will let you save to others.
the artifacts I find are resolution is too low, not enough steps usually.
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DO NOT USE THE TAG artist:philipp urlich on NAI
WILL CREATE DANGEROUS FUMES
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update nai userscript pls catboxanon
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>>8477162
looks fine doe?
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>>8477165
if you use a young character it will summon sea sam
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>>8477167
>if you prompt for csam you get csam
WOW!!! Astonishing insight!
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why is it so
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>>8477168
>>8477167
>>8477165
>>8477162
EMAILING KURUMUZ AS WE SPEAK
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>Try to just write out a style
>Works 60% of the time with base and I like it
>other 40% is I can clearly see other shit artists just pop up in the mix because of feature connection
This shit is so ass they somehow didn't learn from furry naiv3 on why this prompting is ass. Hell even just doing pixel art it keeps randomly changing style because of artist connection to features, it's so fucked.
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>>8477135
In my case it's just way more powerful in v4.
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I'll wrangle it more tomorrow, I actually got it to spit ok stuff but I guess I should read the provided documentation to understand how to take advantage of it.
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>>8477172
pixel art will always be fucked if they don't train it at a specific pixel size
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>>8477164
I assume you mean the attention editing one. I need to do that, yeah. I'll get to it soon.
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>>8477177
That was my example but I'm seeing it in a lot of the gens like the style just changes by seed. Hadn't tried forcing emphasis yet but I can't even get cowgirl position it keeps just sticking the dick into her belly.
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>>8477180
SOVL
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>>8477180
Why is it so detailless?
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what a fall from grace...
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ugly penis
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>>8477170
Thank you for you hard work, 10 (ten) anlas have been deposited to your account!
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Damn, v4 pics in the thread blow out of the water local ones.
Just look at composition and consistency: local would never gen such cool and unique poses and not break limbs and lines even with simpler composition in the process.
And that's just the beginning.
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good one
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Think the worst part about v4 is they've leaned into this regional prompter-lite thing with characters so I imagine it's gonna be a pain to make that work for the nai extension for reforge.
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>>8477170
BASED!!!!!!!
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BREAKING NEWS:
Sakimichan works on NovelAI V4!
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>pedocchi
what did they mean by this?
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Guys! Nyantcha works on v4!
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>>8477196
WHAT
SUBBING IMMEDIATELY
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>>8477199
DOWNLOADED!
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does yd work on v4
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does shadman work doe?
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>>8477186
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>asanagi doesn't work in v4
owari da....
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>>8477160
>>8477161
yeah, seems like something of that helps a lot, thanks
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>>8477196
someone do the floox style
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bruh...
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seems like all banned artists work on v4...
NOVELAI WIN #4047
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anyone know how years work? can you do ranges? does it just put more emphasis on images closer to your year or does it ignore everything not on your year?
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I guess it's not that bad
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>localjeet gens stick out like a sore thumb in the midst of all the v4 goodness
bravo, kurumuz
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Anime Screencap GODS...
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no, it's that bad
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https://modifications-comparing-explain-patricia.trycloudflare.com/

Free NovelAI v4 full/curated, slop code, largely untested, but you'll get metadata so you can see if there's any difference.

Click "New token", it'll spend some time generating a PoW (proof of work token), there are some ratelimits.

Should generally just work.
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>>8477223
virus
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>>8477221
the soul... its seeping through my monitor!
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>>8477224
its a web page sir
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>>8477221
kino
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>>8477226
it's web virus
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>>8477223
>novelai proxy
dont spread this slop here
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>>8477228
open it
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>>8477223
I ain't cliking that shit nigga.
Post a torrent if you want me to download something.
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>>8477229
You just press "get token" and it generates one online, its not gatekept.
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any other oppai loli artists I should try?
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>>8477223
PLEASE USE MY IP GRABBER SIR I DESIRE YOUR IP PLEASE CLICK LINK SIR
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>>8477234
its real free working online nai v4 sir
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>>8477207
what settings/prompt for this?
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>>8477234
(You)
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>>8477223
how the hell do you generate tokens
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>>8477234
who do you think needs your ip, worthless niqqa?
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>>8477238
You press "new token" and wait ~20-40 seconds (it'll use 100% of one your CPU core), its just an anti-spam measure
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>>8477237
sir you forgot "fur dataset" at the start of your prompt
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kurumuz status?
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>>8477240
ah, so a miner, gotcha
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>it'll use 100% of one your CPU core
. . .
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>>8477240
geg
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>>8477093
catbox please?
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>>8477223
Why can I generate with any resolution, who pays for this?
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>>8477244
it's https://github.com/fabiospampinato/crypto-puzzle a proof of work verification, it doesn't mine any crypto (it won't be profitable anyway)
>>8477248
that's a mystery
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>>8477233
maybe try
kz_oji, e-note, kaedeno_yuu, ayawasuca, chipa_(arutana)
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>>8477240
no I mean how do YOU generate tokens? Like where the hell are you getting them from for free?
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>>8477252
see
>>8477249
>that's a mystery
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>>8477248
he scraped for exposed keys on the internet. aka theft
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>>8477254
it's not theft if it's novelai
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Why don't just say that it's a sekrit link that kurumuz only shared in his personal sekrit discord? You fool.
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>nooooo you can't just steal from my favorite corpo nooooo
cry more bitch
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It is not kurumuz, see https://rentry.org/minigen and https://surround-admit-surrounding-tide.trycloudflare.com/ its the same anon who hosted Imagen apparently
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>>8477114
>relearn prompts
???? nai is based on danbooru tags what the fuck are they talking about. this reads like a cope that their v4 is dogshit
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god damn all of this looks like crap
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this but especially local gens
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v4 being this shit legitimately ruined my weekend. All I wanted was an expanded dataset and instead they fucked up everything I liked from v3.
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>>8477263
this is why you never trust malicious closed-source greedy faggots
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>>8477223
wait is this actually real wtf?
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>>8477264
Oh that pose is very nice
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>artist mixing is fucked
>anatomy is fucked
>common tags regularly getting ignored
I've been subbed on Opus continuously since v3 came out, and this feels like a huge step back.
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.
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>>8477264
local could never
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>>8477223
Would be better if you guys could just leak the weights.
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>>8477223
why is this shit so utlra fast, why is nai's gen so fast?
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>>8477264
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>>8477274
CLARA DOESN’T HAVE TITS
SHE’S FLAT, SHE’S FUCKING FLAT, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU
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>>8477277
power of the cluster
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>>8477281
but sir its literally a FHD image in like 4 seconds
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>>8477275
what exactly does \\(thing\\) do?
I get it's escaping something, but what's the benefit?
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>>8477283
There's no benefit, it's people who came from local to NAI and forget that NAI uses {} and [] for weights, not (), so you can type () normally
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>>8477223
glowing
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>>8477284
makes sense
ty
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>>8477285
What's the worst they can do, anyway?
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>>8477223
why are you scraping user accounts and stealing their money
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>>8477287
rape and kill you
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>>8477272
same but it's worse for me because I"m unironically a patreon fag and now I can't gen new characters in my currently style
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>>8477287
leon is making them justify their employment
they will get creative
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>theres free v4 in the thread specifically to make schizo gen the worst gens they can with scuffed v4 and post them
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>>8477223
Do we have proof that this is not using some kind of local model?
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>>8477278
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>>8477294
>metadata
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>>8477296
can be faked
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>>8477288
good v4 gen
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>>8477294
Yes, artist mixing doesn't work.
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>>8476836
So why not first gen the image in V4 and then inpaint with V3? Get the best of both worlds.
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>>8477297
>load proxy gen into nai website
>gen with same settings
>same image
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>>8477223
>>8477294
someone gen something on it then try it on real nai
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>>8477223
any way to get autocomplete set up here? not sure if im using correct tags
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any ideas to get a consistent breast tent? tag or natural language
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>>8477304
Sorry, would be too much effort, I just took the Imagen frontend that I had and Claude rewrote it for NAI (backend + frontend) in about an hour with a tiny bit of manual action
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>>8477223
whats the genuine point in doing this
why are you doing this
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>>8477223
artist mixing just doesn't work...
it just picks one style (perhaps the stronger one)
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>>8477307
go kill yourself kurumuz
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>>8477300
good luck img2img with your preferred style and keeping the same composition, not to mention that new characters will be lost
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>>8477307
>>8477223
what is even going on here, did nai not secure something with their infrastructure or something?
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File deleted.
>>8477223
cheers for sharing the joy of v4 with other anons
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Current spend is about ~1k anlas in 2 minutes
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>>8477223
based, it works.
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>>8477298
anon, this is local...
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>>8477311
I'm the same anon who shared nai accounts here way back like half a year ago, I wanted to make this thing before but got too lazy, this time I actually made it since v4 released, nice fresh new toy
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>>8477311
probably just github keys
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So that's it huh
Pony won
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>>8477223
>>8477294
NAIfag here, It's real.
Copied metadata from Minigen to NAI V4.
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>>8477319
So who's paying, then?
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local is paying in all the tears that will be shed when they lose access.
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my mom
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>>8477320
(You)
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how does nababa look on v4?
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>>8477297
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Yeah just to say beforehand, I'm not planning on keeping this up for long, I want to save some NAI for myself for the future. But there should be enough for hours with some active use at least
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>>8477223
not clicking this shit but can somebody confirm if these results look like the typical v4 dogshit if you try to use an artist combo?
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uhhhh bros I hear sirens outside my house
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>>8477329
the cockroach is coming
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Kurumuz is approaching your destination.
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>>8477326
>that result
there is no way that's naiv4 lol
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>>8477306
its mostly cause ive never used nai so i dont really know the syntax compared to local. thanks though, this is really cool. how long do you think itll stay up for?
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hopefully he's bringing v5
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>>8477332
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>>8477333
>how long do you think itll stay up for?
well from >>8477313 (6 minutes ago) 3 thousand anlas was spend, so currently its going at around 1 thousand anlas/2 minutes, I have like 150K in total and can "add" more anlas if needed, I'll see, I could also make ratelimits stricter and resolution dependent
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>>8477337
based asf
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>>8477337
i can already smell a sekrit club forming
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>>8477340
No, it's not sustainable
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>150k anals
WHAT. THE. FUCK?
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>>8477337
can't you make it free? constrain so it won't use any anals?
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>>8477344
That requires Opus, currently I'm just doing anals gens for everything without a subscription, that's why they're so fast
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>>8477336
wait what the fuck this is actually v4
the fuck is going on? did that guy rip api keys or something?
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>>8477346
ah, my dream was for someone to host opus proxies similar to yours
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>>8477223
Any chance you could add Regional prompting?
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>>8477347
I like to imagine that a NAIfag employee or associate got salty at V4 or something, and got his hands on API keys.
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>>8477349
isn't that a feature of v4?
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>>8477349
Probably not at this point, I'm ADHD or something, so I work in short bursts, right now I made this work so I'm just not going to do anything for some time
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>>8477350
honestly knowing devs I wouldn't be surprised if some retard left keys in some public facing repository or something by accident.
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>>8477337
5.5k anlas burned in the last 6 mins
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well whatever, at this pace this won't last a single day
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>>8477350
if there were such a thing dunno if I'd rather him leak v3 now or stay incognito until v5
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>>8477353
Unfortunately it's nothing like that, just some inactive accounts with leftover anlas. I wouldn't have made such a service if I got their "god" API key or whatever.
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>>8477337
thank you man, ill try to use less. didnt know it was that much
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It died.
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>Error: No valid NovelAI keys available. Please try again later.
joever
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party's over, everyone
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anyone make anything good?
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>>8477337
thanks for putting this up.

tried mixing some styles...
it kinda works but the stronger style tag seems to take precedence and overpowers the rest
text prompting is kinda entertaining at least
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I'll see why's that and if they actually revoked the accounts. If yes, that's proof that the signature thing identifies accounts uniquely
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>>8477352
A shame, thanks for doing this though. Trying it for a while convinced me to stay in local, v4 is not that much of an improvement.
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I tried to replicate some v3 gens I downloaded from here and the results were REALLY disappointing.
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>>8477223
>dead
damn. i got a few good pics out of it though, so thanks.
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>>8477368
it'll be alive really soon anon, dont worry, looks like the default key just lives for shorter
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>>8477365
so they can actually track what you gen?
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alright everyone now post one good image you got from naiv4 :)
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does that mean kurumuz or his drones are in this thread with us right now?
admittedly number of requests is probably easy to catch, but it would be so funny
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>>8477370
nono, its just my own fault
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why the fuck are oppai loli still this inconsistent. how hard is it to just not draw a hag.
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Just wait a couple mins I'll restore it
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sorry guys I was spam genning cunny at max steps and res
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>>8477371
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>>8477375
Your mature female in negs?
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it works again
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>>8477375
hag, granny, ugly, landwhale, karen in negs
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so this is power of v4...
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>>8477379
fuck off I shouldn't have to schizo prompt for a basic concept. that shit never works anyway
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>>8477378
the tattoo came out really good ngl
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>>8477382
>No metadata found.
Its fake
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>>8477385
I stole it :(
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>>8477383
Why are you shit flinging at me when you're the one that doesn't wanna put in the work? You already saw how you need to write a poem to mix a style, what did you even expect???
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>>8477386
>gargantuan breasts
is this guy retarded
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I tried it thanks to >>8477223 and apparently v4 is really good. Damn, now i don't even want to use local with how easy it is to gen eye candy on nai... Unironically deleting 1.0+v29
rn.
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This is a marketing trick
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>>8477336
nta but >>8477385 presence of metadata isn't a good qualifier
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>>8477387
that was more of a general to the world/krumz fuck off
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oppailoli schizo... how i haven't missed your presence...
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>>8477390
lol
kek even
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>>8477388
he's from the anlatan team
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did they ever update v3 in it's lifecycle?
hoping we're not stuck with this dogshit. I was really excited to make characters like frieren that didn't work great previously but now the fucking artist combos don't work with v4
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what if hes logging our gens?
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>>8477388
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>>8477365
>>8477370
>>8477373
wait what? the signature can be tied to the account?
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>>8477399
Looking at the gens he's posted is proof enough
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>>8477398
so some goober has my shitty lewds, so what?
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>>8477399
this man knows less about diffusion models than the grifters shilling NaiV3slop on patreon
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>>8477394
was there an opll schizo? I haven't been around in over a year
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>>8477386
These retards don't even know danbooru tagging and somehow still get hired. No wonder v4 is fucking shit.
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>>8477400
No, I guess they just revoke sessions quicker now (in the past they lasted 30 days, now they last a few hours without refreshing or something). I'll use persistent API tokens next time
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>>8477404
>I haven't been around in over a year
yes. im talking about you.
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Just made a test with wan 2.1...
How do you make this shit work well?
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So why is everyone suddenly silent
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>>8477408
see you next year o/
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alright, I am impressed with its adherence to pussy tags, no praying for some proper clit with this
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>>8477409
this is creepy
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>>8477410
moment of silence for hentai imagegen
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>>8477399
LMAO
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>>8477409
WTF that's fucking terrifying
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>>8477415
chatgpt, is this real?
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>>8477407
prompt?
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>>8477399
sage is really dumb but this statement is 100% true (as long as you do not follow HIS advice)
i've seen a bunch of people saying
>v4 doesn't work!
and posting a shit gen, and then i look at its metadata and it's 100% schizoprompted
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>>8477419
post good gens
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>>8477418
https://files.catbox.moe/eh87gi.png
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>>8477420
no i'm making shitpost gens with text right now
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>>8477419
>look at its metadata and it's 100% schizoprompted
almost all NAI v3 gens were like that
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>>8477421
Vpred kings, I kneel...
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>>8477421
thx anon
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>>8477422
post em
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>>8477426
no
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Can you fuckers post actually good cadaver v4 gens?
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>>8477428
v3, home...
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>>8477421
why do you keep using your honkai lora along with the rest of the artist tags? clearly deadnoodles alone is overcoming the rest
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>>8477426
i don't want to get banned, they're sfw gens of a character holding estrogen
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>>8477430
Why is she glowing.
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>>8477419
I mean have you looked at the gens he's posted, its even worse than here.
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>>8477409
Seriously wtf am I doing wrong?
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>>8477433
Because the poster is a fed
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>>8477434
yeah but
>follow advice or stop complaining
is right
some people just want to copy-paste v3/local prompts into v4 and get mad when it doesn't work
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>>8477435
breathing
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>>8477431
>why does a retarded jeet keep doing retarded jeet things?
real mystery that one
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>>8477435
have you tried genning at the right resolution? 480x480 or standard video resolutions around 480p
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>>8477435
kek
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I can't believe v4 prompt meta is LITERALLY >ask chatgpt
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>>8477435
wym that's peak
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>>8477435
what the actual fuck, is good but on a very weird way, could pass as an actual joke
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>>8477443
how the fuck am I supposed to prompt sex stuff with chatgpt????
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>>8477437
Maybe they shouldn’t have been retarded in the first place and made it so you could copy-paste v3 prompts into v4 and just have it work. But no, clearly it was a better idea to change the entire architecture, have everyone be disappointed, and then tell them “No, you’re just not using it right!” I’m sure those people, formerly paying customers, will take the time to learn the ins and outs of your stupid system instead of just leaving.
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whats the v4 verdict now that we have free access?
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Is it dead again?
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>>8477451
no, works
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>>8477450
its kino
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>>8477451
yeah
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So did anyone figure out how to make single artists work properly again?
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>>8477451
I think there is very heavy rate limiting on place, like 1 gen per minute or something
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>>8477449
>Maybe they shouldn’t have been retarded in the first place and made it so you could copy-paste v3 prompts into v4 and just have it work
are you aware that danbooru has changed a bunch of their tags? they rename tags, add implications, etc
it would be BAD if NAI said "everyone has to use the tags that existed in 2021" when we're living in 2025 because then we have to look at the wiki for every tag we type/exclusively use auto-completed tags
{}[] being shit now is bad but if you were doing {{{{{{shit like this}}}}}} you were probably already schizoprompting, and that never works when moving between models
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one sec
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>>8477458
Gone
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the fact that ChatGPT ass prompts work on v4 but not really on v3 is kind of telling to the fact that they dont' have the booru tags as strong as in v3. might be part of why the body part focus tags aren't working as well and why artists are fucked

enjoy this cute mo-san also (v4)
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>>8477457
tbf danbooru updating/adding tags over the years is a good thing. v4 suddenly asking you to run your old prompts through chat gpt is what is retarded af.
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>>8477460
those eyes are fucking awful lol, the power of v4
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>>8477464
The whole image is fried
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Yeah I know what it is, my server is literally getting ratelimited by Cloudflare which NovelAI uses, using proxies for this would be expensive since bandwidth is high, hmm
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>>8477466
True, but I always look at the eyes first; eyes and fingers/hands.
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>>8477469
ITS KINO
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fern anal worm infestation pleeeeease
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>>8477440
Tried 640x480p
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>>8477466
you could say that about 90% of v4 gens and I'm seething about it too
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>>8477464
for all its faults, v4 has been great at eyes/hands compared to all the local models I've tried
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>>8477475
You can't say that after you posted that fried mordred though.
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I want to like v4 so much, but i just can't.
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>>8477477
>I don’t remember it exactly.
He was absolutely prompting Dexter from Dexter’s Laboratory having sex.
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>>8477477
why the fuck do they keep saying people need to rebuild prompts when this shit should have been built on booru tags?
is it cope?
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>>8477480
Based
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>no 3k
Even v4 let us down.. textgenners are dead.
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>>8477477
Instead of constantly telling people they just need to “figure it out,” why don’t they publish some documentation?
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>>8477484
chudai mentality
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>>8477477
Isn't the entire point of NovelAI to be easy to use? Most of these people are genning on their phones and shit lmao
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>>8477473

Where can I find the Wan workflow? I want to test.
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>>8477467
Kek it's true, I was also getting half the images blank while experimenting with samplers. Sorry about the anals, proxy anon!
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>>8477488
Nah, this isn't the ratelimit, this is >>8477477 seems like a legit issue
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>>8477486
>Isn't the entire point of NovelAI to be easy to use?
yes, v3 was quite literally retard proof
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>>8477491
anon...
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>>8477477
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>>8477485
>chudai
why do so many accounts on xitter spam this word
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>>8477486
Can confirm, I only gen on my phone and while jerking off. Them expecting me to learn an entirely new system of prompting with ZERO actual guides besides just repeatedly telling people that v3 methods won’t work just makes me not want to use NAI at all.
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>>8477490
>v3 was quite literally retard proof
Then why did it take the pedofile that posts that horned child to teach all the nai users in the general how to gen?
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>>8477484
There's no documentation, they had to release this shit as is because they were losing subs. v5 will be what v4 should have been (if they abandon the retarded idea of forcefully removing """problematic""" content from the dataset), but v5 will take another 6+ months probably.
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>>8477489
Missed with reply like a retard, >>8477488 was meant for >>8477477
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yeah i'm thinking this noobai (nai) v4 isn't as good as cat tower
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wan 2.1 desperately needs a finetune
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>>8477496
>teach all the nai users in the general how to gen?
lol? I don't remember that
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>>8477485
>>8477494
>Chudai Means Sex in Hindi, the tags are for reaching indian users
SIRS
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>>8477493
why do the community managers sound like such cunts
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>>8477492
you're right. less fingers this time.
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>>8477504
She's literally a child.
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>>8477499
Not you too chinese anon..
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>freesaars and paykeks are both finally realizing that ai has only been getting worse
we peaked at winterhalter elves and no amount of 'prompt comprehension' can fix these fundamentally anti-aesthetic architectures. it just gets increasingly bland with each model
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>>8477502
>indians literally just get on twitter and search chundai and wata and thats why all those posts that look like bots and steal art get so many likes

it all makes sense now
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and?
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>>8477494
Jeet word for sex that is not hidden by the algorithm, whenever you see it, you can be certain that the poster poos in the street.
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>>8477337
I applied for the NAI free distribution program without any qualifications, and my DMs were completely ignored by NAI. I'm now relying on you for help.
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On the bright side, we'll all get to laugh at ponyv7 being absolutely useless when it releases.
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she's built for it
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>not even 2.5k textgens
I'll never forgive NAI for this.
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So, any gens from that thing?
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>>8477435
wan2.1 desperately needs loras/finetuning to stabilize what we're after consistently, the TE isn't enough right now
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bake the bread
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>>8477514
Why is it so fried?
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Those with sufficient funds or unlimited tickets, please consider donating to him. We need to develop something a bit more robust. The era of being consumed by jealousy and attacking NAI4 is over.
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it's almost there with the interlocked fingers, cnnuy's alright
https://files.catbox.moe/or3s07.png
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>>8477523 →
>>8477523 →
>>8477523 →
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so v4 really cant do artist mixing? thought it was just some troll lol
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>>8477520
Chinese bwo, you ok?
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>>8477511
I thought it was the reverse? people spamming it because it gets views from jeets (larger audience)
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>>8477499
zasido
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>>8477528
It's mostly jeet and chink accounts fishing for jeet clicks.
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>>8477487
https://comfyanonymous.github.io/ComfyUI_examples/wan/
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>>8476976
box?
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>>8476868
Increase cfg rescale or lower prompt guidance.
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didn't bother to inpaint this yet
this is a base gen
local could never
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>>8477488
Turn down CFG or put white background in negs.
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>>8476475
It seems more strict. Make sure name order and underscores are in
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>v3 gen
get outta here
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/hdg/ is no more
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Does anyone know how to prompt the pinched fingers megalia symbol thing? Like the emoji? Is it still not possible? I've already tried a few things in v4.
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WHAT THE FUCK IMAGE LIMIT ALREADY?!
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>>8477157
Cute
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>>8477223
Error:
No valid NovelAI keys available. Please try again later.

Eh?
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>>8478282
too much spam in this one
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Keep posting here we need 3k
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new bread???
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>>8478261
>/hdg/ is no more
for a second though that the current thread got nuked
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>>8478327
see
>>8477524
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>>8477247
https://files.catbox.moe/lhco3g.png
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>>8477369
uh, no they last forever. till you delete them yourself. that retard got nuked lol
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>>8477223
Holy based! Could you add "enhance", please?
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>>8477504
>>8477514
catbox b4 404 pls?
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So… realism no longer works on NaiV4
I wonder why…
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