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I have struggled with this question a lot, particularly because many of the things that get called fascist are quite clearly, in my eyes, not unique to fascism from both sides of the political aisle (e.g. free market advocacy, socialism etc.) So, /his/, is fascism truly everything I don't like?
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>>16881657
Fascists have no theory which means it can anything anyone needs it to be.
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>>16881657
Revanchist, expansionist nationalism + totalitarianism
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>>16881662
sounds like modern China
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>>16881657
We already have this thread:
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>>16881657
Palingenetic Nationalism. It is something you should like
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>>16881657
Look it up in a dictionary you galactic retard.
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Here's a video from a history teacher that I thought explained it well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQbFgszFaZg
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imagine socialism on a skateboard
well fascism is even cooler than this

don't forget to tell your friends
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You must read "The Doctrine of Fascism" if you want to understand fascism, just like how you must read "The Communist Manifesto" if you want to understand communism. Fascism views the nation as a living breathing organism. Similar to how the individual cells of an organism work together in harmony and suppress their individual interests to ensure the survival of the organism, fascism views the individuals that make up a nation the same way.

Fascism rejects the materialism of Marxism, which believes society can primarily be understood in terms of economic relations and that happiness can only be fulfilled by material economic conditions. Instead, fascism believes the individuals of a society must relate to a transcendent metaphysical purpose in order to achieve full happiness.
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>>16881657
>>16881766
Fascism is literally just corporatism (not corporatocracy) with cool nationalist aesthetics.

That’s literally it. We don’t need to keep making these same threads now.
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>>16881657
Actual idealism
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>>16881657
National syndicalism and actual idealism. Idealism and materialism are the same thing btw
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>>16881949
>Idealism and materialism are the same thing btw
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>>16881951
>arrives at the same conclusion
>not the same
I guess the spirit ISN'T in the atoms right?
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>>16881965
Wtf are you even talking about dumbass.
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>>16881970
Figures, wasting my time with an absolute retard.
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>>16881657
centrism taken to it's logical conclusion
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>>16881975
You are braindead moron and don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
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>>16881657
A version of extreme populism that tends to be on the right, but with mixed leftist rhetoric.
Usually, fascism involves using a national mythos to power a wave of resentment against a liberal government, usually by way of exploiting the fears of a displaced group. An idealized form of the past is held up as a standard to rally people to radical change, a fascist politician equates themselves to it and creates a culture of victimhood that can only be remedied by a strong leader with ultimate power.
I would call it extremist victimhood populism. Because it relies on resentment and stoking of nationalist fervor, it tends to manifest in aggressive ethnic nationalism, expansionist/militaristic foreign policy, racial hierarchy, and other right wing social views.
However it also picks up much rhetoric from the left, invoking victimhood against the capitalist class and business owners.
There are also policies that don't fall on the left or right, that exemplify the extreme populist position. Hatred of a nebulous class of "elites", hostility towards the media, and freedom of speech.
To me this is the description that makes the most sense. I don't think Fascism is a political ideology at all, I think it is a style of rhetoric used to establish totalitarian power efficiently, using common sentiments from people within countries.
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>>16881657
Fascism has no real form, its impossible to define because it gets used so narrowly by some and so broadly by others.

But usually it's a form of palingenic ultranationalism built around a strongman authoritarian who wants to disrupt unwanted social /political norms and displace old "elites", be they real or imaginary, who they scapegoat and blame for societies decline
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>>16881665
So the USSR was fascist?

The revanchist winterwar?

The expansionist aims of internationalist communism? And nationalistic devotion to the peoples republic?

Totalitarian?

If your definition of fascism can be applied to a communist state then perhaps it's not a very good one.
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>>16882164
>So the USSR was fascist?
Yes obviously. Anyone who believes otherwise does not know what fascism is
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>>16882164
>If your definition of fascism can be applied to a communist state then perhaps it's not a very good one.
There is nothing that prevents a communist country from also being fascist. The economic system is compatible with the idea of national revival and expansionism, especially when both systems desire authoritarian leaders.
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>>16881741
This guy is such pseud
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Fags together, stronk

Simple as
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>>16881657
Middle class turns to a policy state to prevent a socialist revolution.

Bankers, lawyers, dentists, etc. feel privileged so crack down on unions, political parties, and anyone else they feel will make them pay in some way.

The state turns to war either as a distractions tactics for the repression, or a rallying cry to prevent worker strikes, etc, or to just simply steal from other countries because those murderous boat dealers want their boats.
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>>16881657
Read A. James Gregor
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>>16882164
>>16881665
Add corporatism
The USSR lacks a corporatist body like the Chamber of Fasces and Corporations in Italy
The Soviet legislatures were like the Nazi reichstag 1-party legislature
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>>16881657
Fascism is a corporatist economy that encourages class unity instead of class conflict. This is the fundamental core of fascism.



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