How come school history books never talk about how the Tlaxcaltecas willingly allied with the Spanish and then the Spanish had honored their alliance until Mexico became independent?
>>16886844Because that would be problematic.
>>16886844This is not part of the curriculum in the UK so it isn't in the textbooks.
>>16886844>TlaxcaltecasSpaniards had to defeat the Tlaxcaltecas in 3 battles BEFORE they decided to join. In 1 of the battles Cortes was almost killed.So stop with the nonsense that Spaniards were just diplomats.
>>16887200Nobody said that, faggot.
everyone knows tlaxcaltecs allied with the spanish here in mexico, people from modern day tlaxcala are sometimes called traitors because of it (which is retarded but whatever)most people don't know what happened to tlaxcaltecs after the fall of tenochtitlan tho aside from people from tlaxcala itself and some norteños who recall the origin of their towns (esp coahuila people)
>>16886844>American school history booksAre written by people with a vested interest in portraying Spain as evil and genocidal, or framing world history as a struggle between "white" and "nonwhite" people, and applying the English/American mentality to the Spanish empire and/or modern mexico.That or just general deficiency in world history curriculum caused by indifference.>Mexican school history booksAre, mistakenly, written since the presidency of Lázaro Cardenas to teach mexicans to think of themselves and their state as the descendents, exclusively, of the Mexica. This was done to instill a nationalist identity but ended up creating an identity crisis.So the Tlaxcaltecas and other allied groups, without whom the conquista would have been impossible, are either ignored or treated as "traitors."Likewise, the independence of Mexico is treated as a mainly indigenous and mestizo struggle against the Spanish, when in reality the criollos were very involved in the process and were the architects of the modern nation-state known as "mexico."
>>16886844>>16887108>>16887340>>16887279>>16887273The entire premise here is wrong.Firstly, education about Mesoamerica is dogshit and minimal to begin with. A lot of important stuff is never mentioned or is misexplained.Secondly, most middle/high school textbooks when talking about the fall of the Aztec DO mention that Cortes allied with local groups, they just don't go into specifics about the states involved like Tlaxcala, Texcoco, etc, and also tend to completely mis-state why those alliances happened (EX: blaming it on the Mexica being hated for sacrifices rather then more nuanced political dynamics, rivalries, and opportunistic ambition)Lastly, Spain DIDN'T keep it's promises to Tlaxcala, at least not entirely: See pic.
>>16888429>picrelwow how weird but didnt tlaxcala support the crown during the independence war?
>>16887340>Are, mistakenly, written since the presidency of Lázaro Cardenas to teach mexicans to think of themselves and their state as the descendents, exclusively, of the Mexica.books are fine nowadays, but teachers repeat old myths probably to make class more interesting and easy to remember
>>16886844>honored their alliance until Mexico became independent?Explain?
>>16888456>Tras la conquista, Tlaxcala tenía un gobierno propio de indígenas, que si bien; era conformado por algunos españoles, el control de este territorio no era totalmente hispano. Por lo tanto, Tlaxcala tenía su propia autonomía frente a otros territorios de México.>El no haber participado activamente en la independencia de México, le impidió a Tlaxcala gozar de autonomía. Razón por la cual durante 40 años pasó a ser territorio del Estado de México y de Puebla.tlaxcala was basically its own indian ministate loyal to the crown, and as they had privileges they did not fight for independence, so it was carved up after 1821
>>16888436The further past 1521 you go the less informed I am on stuff, so I can't comment on that.Even the specifics of how much the agreement with Tlaxcala was or was not kept I really don't know much about.
You will never claim the Southwest, Arido-“Mexico”, Tizoc.
>>16886844PORQUE LA PREMISA NACIONALÍSTICA DE EL MITO MEXICANISTA SE BASA EN UNA PRESUNTA SUBLEVACIÓN ANTIHISPÁNICA Y ANTICATÓLICA DE LOS POBRECITOS «PUEBLOS ORIGNARIOS ®», LA CUAL DEVINO EN «LA INDEPENDENCIA ®», DESPUÉS DE TRES CENTURIAS DE OPRESIÓN.PRESENTAR LOS HECHOS HISTÓRICOS COMO FUERON NO SERÍA CONGRUENTE CON LA IDEOLOGÍA DE EL SISTEMA POLÍTICO LIBERALISTA DE ESTADONACIÓN DE QUIENES USURPARON EL PODER EN 1824, Y QUE LO HAN MANTENIDO HASTA HOY, DE HECHO, SERÍA DETRIMENTAL.
>>16888572Vato, this shit ain't about liberalism vs conservatism. It's about clan/tribe power struggles. Do you think Tlaxcalans care about gay marriage or decreasing government spending? They (and their descendants) couldn't give a single fuck about that. One group of people just wanted to rule over others and others wanted to rule themselves. It's no different from all those African tribal conflicts.
>>16888597Be quiet nigger.
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>>16888597LA FORMA POLÍTICA DE ESTADONACIÓN ES UN PRODUCTO DE EL LIBERALISMO; EL LIBERALISMO, A SU VEZ, ES UNA CORRIENTE FILOSÓFICA DE EL ILUMINISMO.LIBERALES, Y CONSERVADORES, SON LIBERALISTAS; EL LIBERAL ES PROGRESISTA; EL CONSERVADOR, TIBIO: CONSERVADORES, O LIBERALES, EL MITO MEXICANISTA SE MANTIENE: SON DOS VERTIENTES DE LA MISMA CORRIENTE.POR SUPUESTO QUE TIENE QUE VER CON EL TEMA, YA QUE LA PERPETUACIÓN NACIONALÍSTICA DE EL MITO MEXICANISTA ES LA CAUSA POR LA QUE NO SE ENSEÑA HISTORIA EN LAS ESCUELAS, SINO LA «MEMORIA HISTÓRICA» DE LA IDEOLOGÍA LIBERALISTA EN MÉXICO.
