Genetically speaking?
Read Juvenal to find out.
What happened to Basque-like Iberians?
>>17187594Nothing. They're still there.
>>17187596
Imagine having literal SSA y-dna. There were ancient Iberoid women who literally got bbc'd.
>>17187598I don't get your point. Those distances are enormous.
>>17187608BLACKED
>>17187570lgbt-loving shitberia larping as masculine will never not be funny
>>17187570Greek bvlls migrated to Italy and also replaced weak Roman elites.>>17187577This.
Pic might be too much for the brown Shitberian brain to understand since they can only grasp meme Gcope25 distances.
>>17187708>weak Roman elitesRome went to shit and was conquered by Germanic becuase of this thoughtbeit
>>17187805>euro 2012Another display of the Iberian racial superiority.
modern iberians have imperial roman admixture
Iberians don't even care. Too busy being white. You should try it some time.
>>17187805>WHG makes 'niards Browner than ShitaliansIs it actually true? I need examples
>>17187856>browner than shitalians>cluster with the FrenchChoose one.
>>17187823Also Imperial Arab admixture
>>17187856Makes them shorter and more monkey looking in particular. They and Sardinians (also mixed with hunterjeets) have a pheno called "Berid" which is very ugly and primitive looking and derived from hunterjeets. Probably doesn't affect pigmentation as much since they had time to lighten themselves tho. Modern Shitberians are dark because of being raped by quadroon Moors and sometimes literal Sub-Saharan Africans. >>17187866Shtiberians are factually darker pigmented than Italians.
>>17187866stfu proto sardinian monkey
>>17187902>derived from hunterjeetsHow to prove it?
>>17187902>>17187911Hi Georgian gay boi
"Most WHG guy ever": https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/most-whg-guy-ever.42681/They call him Negro or Asian Steppe.
>>17187940whiter than you, shitberian
>>17187956lol georgian monkey
>>17187856obviously not since northern europeans have the most whganother day another bullshitthis is the same poster, same memes poster by the same guy larping as both italians and iberian>>17187805>>17187594>>17187570
>>17187598>Spanish biscay>Spanish pais vasco>SeparateWut?
>>17188101biscayans have slightly more roman ancestry than other basques
>>17188077>obviously not since northern europeans have the most whgIt makes them look like this. A cross of a WHGroid and a EHGoloid.
>>17188312Greta + Caveman. Downy looking.
>>17188312stop posting these memes, you are not italian, and you are OP
>>17188312Come post here something with the Italian flag: >>>/int/203575501
>>17188341troll replying to yourselfwhy did you link that and not the italian general >>>/int/203607938>>17188335he's georgian
>>17188352Because I'm a "Costal Berber"
>>17188386okay so you admit being a coastal berber and not georgian, quit shitposting against iberians, and do it in the name of your own nation, not italian
>>17188405Nah, you didn't get it. They call me a Coastal Berber for this collage: >>17187163
>>17188413you are not italian, why are you making these shitty threads against iberians? why do you larp as italian?
>>17188424I'm not the OP. Why are you being retarded, le Italian thinker?
>>17188430alright, at least you recognize that OP and the "anti iberian" poster are obviously the same personthese memes have the same exact format >>17187570 >>17187594 and were very obviously made by the same person
>>17188442>obviously made by the same personMaybe or maybe they troll each other.
>>17188460they dont, it's the same anti iberian/southeuro poster from a few years ago, he changed style. now he pretends to be italianso iberians will shit on italy in turn and he doesn't need to do it himself, two birds with one stone
>>17188471so no proof
>>17189633suspect comment, there's plenty of proof, thread was at page 10, excuse comment to bump up your own thread
>>17189646Bumping your own thread doesn't work. Take your pills you fucking lunatic
>>17189651it works on /his/ idiot
>>17189699proof?
>>17189704stop trolling
>>17187594Holy based. Salüt!
>>17190289You lost.
>>17190323Sizzi wonDuosiciliani lostKeep coping Calogero
>>17190325You're dumb, i'm not defending south italians I'm Iberian.
>>17187594They became Romans
imagine looking like left and calling other people brown. Also georgia is whiter than spain (and much less gay too)
>>17188471>they dont, it's the same anti iberian/southeuro poster from a few years agoIt's either the Frisian schizo or the Russian sissy Mordvix or both of them. They often shitpost together.
>>17190405No, Mordvix is pro-med now
>>17190325>Lebanese>Arab
>>17190325kekI thought Sizzi was anti-Tuscany tho
>>17190323>cherrypick samples to form an 'average' >exclude the two 'outlier' ones mixed with Greeks/Anatolians even though this is an important part of the Roman ethnogenesis, they even have a myth about being descended from Trojans>ignore that Proto-Villanovans (originators of Latin and Etruscan culture) were more similar to North Italians>pretend Catalans are the average Moor raped ShitberianKys Spajeet mongrel
Death to Spajeet subhumans. Catalan independence now.
>>17190602tuscany is the most relevant region in post-antique italian history
>>17190289sizzi prefers spaniards over south italians>>17190323samefagging
>>17190798there's several Catalans in this picture you just posted>>17190792(xavi(half), busqets, guardiola, nadal, piqué) thanks to confirm the unity of the iberian race!
>>17190602he's not, he considers them the only non north itlaians with which the lombards have a connection with>>17190681>>17190376be quiet, georgian, you're not italian
>Basques = Aryans>Catalans = Moroccan penis-addicted cucks>Spaniards = mestizos (Arab and Celtic genetics)>Northern Italians = Aryans (Germanic blood)>Southern Italians = arabs
>>17190821I keep telling you Xabi Alonso is not a good example for Basques because his last name indicate he has some Castillan origins. Arteta is a better example.
>>17187598This doesn't say what you think it does
>>17190836Basques and the people around their area are significantly lighter than the rest of Shitberia.
>>17190854
>>17190836>I keep telling you Xabi Alonso is not a good example for BasquesCopeHere is another exampleBasques = Aryans
>>17190868Even worse example. Fernando LLORENTE TORRES. I doubt he has any basque blood.Basque name are pretty easy to sport since it's not an indoeuropean language. Here Mikel Oyarzabal Ugarte. Pure Basque.
>>17190836>Castillan originsAlonso has a Germanic etymology lol
>>17190885That nose is from farmers. Sardinians have it too. Less common in Spajeets because of their negroid admixture.
>>17190898Mouthbreathing retard.>>17190899I haven't said anything.
>>17190854>>17190885did you just wake up again and started spamming again?you are not italian, stop spamming this troll shit retard
>>17190899There's the Shrek looking Basques and Sardinians as well because of their hunterjeet admixture though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sceIppNkBWE
>>17190861That’s one allele. Skin color is highly polygenic compared to eye color. also the north italian samples are only 14 (let alone tuscany with merely 8 samples), while the genoa samples are 98, that's more accurate to our averagewhy do you spam the same things everyday? it's like you don't words don't register in your brain
>>17190910why are you larping as italian? where are you from?
>>17190912*it's like words don't register in your brain
>>17190912Saaar it's just one allele saaar
>>17190929
>>17190929i'm italianlet's talk on int>>>/int/203636943or alternatively tell me where are you from
>>17190936>>17190929Why do you larp as italian?
>>17190929>>17190936Go back to georgia and stay there churka monkey
Did you notice my thread yet
Reminder: this is what Spaingroids are we wuzing as. One of the 'Latin' samples is also clearly mixed with Gauls and is included in their fake average.
>>17191001>>17191030churka monkey
>>17191038The Etruscan with nafricoon admixture clusters with ANALusians hahaha.
>>17191030good fucking job you picked all the outlier samples and even then half of them are still iberian likeyou know why don't you send your complain to the university of leipzig since they're the one who made this claim in the first place
>>17191030>>17191056spaniards aren't larping as anything, you're literally OP, we figured out your false flag
>>17191063Eat shit Shitberian mutt
>>17191091churka slave monkey
>>17191001>>17191030>>17191056where are you from?
>>17191136I made a thread shitting on Spajeets on /int/ if you didn't notice.
>>17191171link
>>17191171come here to talk on int >>>/int/203636943
>>17191171>>17191185Where's the georgian flag monkey?
>>17191204he still didn't post on the int thread
>>17191210What a monkey.
I'm not posting in your shitty general for no reason. I made another thread. If you don't notice it again it's your fault.
>>17191250post, retardyou're not italian, you will never be italian
>>17191250is this you?>>>/int/203638014
>>17191317yes
>>17191317he hates greeks from the mainland and think they're slavic rapebabieshe's a either a migrant or a dodecanense shitter
The Georgian dude has nothing to do with me by the way, but I do think Georgians are whiter than Shitberians as well. Memedistances mean nothing. All the extra WHGroid in Jeetberians does is make them look more negro-like.
>>17191349memesyou are not italian, why do you larp as italian? is this the thread you were talking about >>17191333
>>17191375>say I'm going to make a thread there>iS tHiS tHe ThReAd YoU wErE tAlKiNg AbOuTNow I need to ask why do YOU larp as Italian when it's clear you're a Shitberian immigrant there, probably a 15% nafri Moortuguese.
>>17191392i'm italianyou are not thoyou said >>17191171>I made a thread shitting on Spajeets on /int/ if you didn't notice.i made is past tenseyou are backtrackingwhere are you from?
>>17191413I'm not going to entertain your Moorish retardation any further. How does it feel Lebanese are closer to creators of Western civ than you? Mostly because they lacked your Taforaltgroid and WHGroid admixture.
>>17191437>I'm not going to entertain your Moorish retardation any further. How does it feel Lebanese are closer to creators of Western civ than you? Mostly because they lacked your Taforaltgroid and WHGroid admixture.i'm north italianwhere are you from? why do you larp as italian? why did you say "I made a thread shitting on Spajeets on /int/ if you didn't notice" but now you're backtracking after we found the "spajeet" thread?this is the only argument here, no one cares about your spam bullshitslet's discuss here, so you show your real flag>>>/int/203643805
>>17191443I don't larp as Italian, you're the only one that does by pretending to be a polentone when you're actually a Moortuguese brownoid.
>>17191447i'm north italian>I don't larp as Italianso you admit not being italian? why do you purposefully never give proper answers
>>17191451negher de merd, i garibaldini inn vegnud de la lombardia per cumbater per GIONTA INSEMA con i lor FRADEI TERUN contro i mori spagnou
>>17191451I did give some hints as to where I was from before. You were just too dumb to notice it. I could've been either from Turkey or Greece based on it, but you never tried to guess either. All Turkshits are Greeks btw.
>>17191452you are not italian, why are you larping as italian?please spare me the "unity" bs, you're the first one to say that r1b (most common haplo in tuscany and north italy) is subhuman and that sicilians are not italians, you clearly are full of contradictions and just want to shit on iberiansnow answer the questions posedwhere are you from?why do you larp as italian?
>>17191461>. I could've been either from Turkey or Greece based on italright so you're either greek or turk, finally
>>17191464Yeah, that's not me. We are 2 different people. I like all Italians. Not a fan of Iberian Moors though.
>>17191471oh no, don't even try bullshitting me now, you're one anon, it's very very obvious, you can't literally can't do that
>>17191477**you literally can't do that
>>17191477Obsessive faggot, we are 2 different people>>17191461>All Turkshits are Greeks btw.Wrong, they have too much East Asian DNA
>>17191483>Obsessive faggot, we are 2 different peopleyou are the same person>Wrong, they have too much East Asian DNAwhy are you replying to yourself?
>>17191483>>17191461So you're from turkey
>>17191483Turks have insignificant amount of Asian and look like Armenoids with giant noses. Russians and Finns are more Asian than them.
>>17191490you are as dumb as a brick bro
>>17191495yes, the anti spanish poster from turkey, everything is explained, he likes the caucasus like all turks
>>17191496>Turks have insignificant amount of Asian and look like Armenoids with giant nosesWRONG. Some regions regularly have up to 40% Asian admixture. They're not just Anatolian Balkan Greek mutts. The Turkic heritage isn't a LARP.
>>17191496>>17191490We get it you have to lar as two persons after you were exposed, no one's falling for that
>>17191496>>17191483fake conversation
>>17191503>>17191496>>17191483hi, anti iberian poster
>>17191503
>>17191518why did you reply to yourself?
>>17191515>>17191506pazzia
Anti iberian poster is sperging out and pretending to be 2 anons lmao
>>17191518>TrabzonCongrats you chose the region with THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TURKIC DNA because it was a large city and they couldn't replace the population as well. They are outliers, the rest of Turkey has much more Asian admix.
>>17191524easy to edit>pazziayou are not italian, why did you google translate an italian word?
>>17191534tranquillo pirla lombarda sono stufo di te
Total Beakercuck death. Jeetberians need to be enriched with more J.
>>17191531are you done replying to yourself? this is the most artificial conversation ever>>17191524>he doesn't know how to change hours to a central european hour so he blurred the hoursretard
>>17191539>tranquillo used like that as "calm down">lombarda with an ahilarious, google translate, you are literally not italianwhy do you larp as italian
>>17191540italians are more R than they are J, bad larp, why do you hate italians and iberians?
>>17191554Polentone larper pls
>>17191549>tranquillo used like that as "calm down"it is, maybe in your region it's not, I can tell you "sta zett" how about that?>lombarda with an abecause you're a bitch, pirla troia lombarda
>>17191564google translate italian
>>17191560what are you trying to prove with this?italians are more R than they are J, italy isn't a "J nation" or whatever nonsense meme you're going on with, maybe turkey, your nation is, but that has nothing to do with italy
>>17191578U152 isn't very significant in Central and South Italy.
>>17191586It reaches 31-35% frequency in the North MAX. This was clearly not the real Roman haplo. They were weak cucks who got defeated. Also shared by Gallic cucks.
>>17191586r1b is the majority haplogroup in tuscany, central italians and south italians still have more r1b than they have j2 generallysorry but italy isn't some sort of j2 nation, you must be confusing us for your nation: turkey
>>17191606Area VI is much too large and encompasses too many different regions, this is strange. The genetics can vary quite a lot from Abruzzo to Northeastern Sicily.
>>17191606Polentacucks BTFO
>>17191630>Polentacucks BTFOknew you were gonna post this shit, you post the same shit every day, notice how you actually didn't post the chart with all the populations?literally third map in my pic >>17191606 , they used only specific people in the map but you can see that for example in central italy latium people are more r1b than j2same in the other studies, r1b is always more common than j2, except for these "picenes" samples in abruzzo in the third study
>>17191651What do you think about the Trojan bvll R1b? Why is it so common in Calabrians?
>>17191665according to actual studies and not these forum maps you spam it doesn't seem be that common >>17191606why do you hate italians so much? why do you larp as italian anyway?
>>17191671>I defend Italians from Shitberian we wuzers = I hate Italians Seems like this is projection of your part, Shitberian.
>>17191700>Seems like this is projection of your part, Shitberian.i'm italian, shitposting against iberians isn't defending "italians", your posts are in fact anti italianwhy do you larp italian? you're from turkey
>>17191706Meanwhile he was shitting on "terroni" when he thought I was one. Get your African ass out of Italy, Shitberian. You cluster with North Italians by coincidence. Latinx spawned by Shitberians cluster with MENAgroids and Central Asians due to their Amerindian and negro mix.
>>17191733>muh shitberians (if I say it enough maybe they believe it's true)>the chart doesen't actually say what you think it says>all the genetic studies/PCA plotting are wrongNice mental gymnastics retard.
>>17191733i'm north italianwe cluster closer to iberians than to south italians, it's no coincidence, it's a factyou need to stop your shitposting against iberians, or do it without larping as italian>when he thought I was one.so you're not south italian perfectyou sure as hell aren't northern, therefore this leaves only one option, you're not italian
>>17191748Look at the position of Basques. That's where you were at before you got raped.
>>17191748based catalan, best iberians
>>17191771I'm GREEK you fucking retard. Do I really need to say it out loud.
>>17191771>we cluster closer to iberians than to south italians, it's no coincidence, it's a factSo what? You don't understand genetics at all it seems. Overlapping on a PCA doesn't necessarily mean anything of value. You are just another fool who knows only G25 and haplogroups. High WHG in Iberians pulls them in a Northern direction. It doesn't negate their substantial North African admixture, it just creates a degeneracy on a PCA as PCA is low-dimensional simplification. I'd rather have East Med admixture than be a Riffian rape babby.
>>17191773stop shitposting
>>17191797The amount of mental gymnastics and coping is out of this world, keep going monkey, put on a show for us
>>17191797iberians are "Riffian rape babby" since they have low e-m81, you don't understand what a "rape babby" is eveniberians and north italians have similar ancestral componentsjust like macedonian greeks are similar to albanians and bulgarians because of similar ancestral components
>>17191811*iberians arent "Riffian rape babby"
>>17191787than shut the fuck up retard, no italian benefits from your anti iberian shitposting
>>17191811>iberians are "Riffian rape babby" since they have low e-m81, you don't understand what a "rape babby" is evenIt doesn't matter where it came from, they have significant detectable nafri admixture end of discussion>iberians and north italians have similar ancestral componentsSimilar enough to get low distances on G25, a meme program for uneducated genetics hobbyists. Doesn't necessarily mean much.
>>17191822Go larp as a Celt/Visigoth with your polentacuck """"""""""brothers"""""""""", Shitberian mongrel.
>>17191829>It doesn't matter where it came from, they have significant detectable nafri admixture end of discussionthey don't, iberians are on average 5% nafri>Similar enough to get low distances on G25, a meme program for uneducated genetics hobbyists. Doesn't necessarily mean much.we're similar in any tool>>17191831i'm italian, there's no benefit to any italian in your shitposting, you just hate iberians, stop larpign as italian
>>17191811>just like macedonian greeks are similar to albanians and bulgarians because of similar ancestral componentstrue, macedonians greeks and tracian greeks are truly based, the best greeks
>>17191851The problem is that nafri blood is so subhuman it's like a pozz load that gives their entire genome AIDS. Being 50% Eastern Mediterranean would be preferable to being 5% North African.
>>17191858well no, being 50% "eastern mediterranean" is better than being 50% nafri, but being 5% nafri is definitely better than being 50% "eastern mediterranean" this is just shitposting against iberians, there's no benefit to italians in saying any of this shit>>17191857kinda true, in fact the only greeks i'm genetically close to are northern greeksgreece is like italy, not a homogeneous nation
>>17191876>kinda true, in fact the only greeks i'm genetically close to are northern greeksso the slavic and turkic mutts, unlike the best greeks, the islanders and Peloponnesians? lol
>>17191876>but being 5% nafri is definitely better than being 50% "eastern mediterranean"no it isn't since east meds founded euro civilization t. not him
>>17191882>so the slavic and turkic mutts, unlike the best greeks, the islanders and Peloponnesians? lolpeloponnesians are still close to albanians at least, but islanders are very middle eastern shifted
>>17191886>no it isn't since east meds founded euro civilization "east meds" like lebanese taleb? i don't think so>t. not himthat's you
I've never been attacked by a Chinese, Jew, nigger, Arab, or jeet for being of Italian descent. I only see "pro whites" and "white nationalists" doing that. I see all these people calling my people swarthoids and daydream about killing me and repopulating my ancestral homeland with Scandinavians, calling Italians racially inferior Arab mongrels who can't build what Germanics can.So you know what? I hope niggers butcher your filthy Germanic subhuman families and that you are hunted to extinction by the colored hordes like the Boer in South Africa. You and all your Germanic children. I wish I was part of Germanicus's legions so I could cut Germanic babies to ribbons with a gladius. I hate whites.
>>17191899sir... this is a wendy
>>17191893>lebanese talebgreco-phoenician bvllsnorth italians are 30% east med btw >that's youno i agree with him in many things but i don't hate iberians>>17191888see pic rel
>>17191851It's 7-10% in reality and they also have negro and sephardic admixture. >>17191858True. It makes them very dark and exotic looking compared to Basques. >>17191876You would be classified as negroid in Jim Crow America.
12% Nafri like Extremadura or Galicia or Andalusia is whiter than 25% East Med.
>>1719192030% east med north italians are whiter than basques
>>17191920No it isn't. You literally lack light skin pigmentation genes. Negro/negro-like admixture makes you extremely dark even in just small amounts.
>>17191924>30% east med north italiansThey don't like hearing that, it makes them melt down.https://x.com/CisalpineSwag/status/1844469144797970678
>>17191915>It's 7-10% in reality it's 0 to 10%, and average at 5%>and they also have negro and sephardic admixture. typical sentence spouted by pic rel poster, you're that very old anti iberian poster, you never were pro italian, you were generally anti southern europe, the pro italian meme position is a shield you use in case you are attacked, your opponents attack italians>True. It makes them very dark and exotic looking compared to Basques. replying to yourself>You would be classified as negroid in Jim Crow America.i'm north italian, i don't care about the jim crow america, another sentence that pic rel poster often cited
>>17191914>north italians are 30% east med btw "east med" does not exist, you mean middle eastern maybe, we have 10-20% middle eastern ancestry>>17191925don't speak on behalf of us, turk
>>17191938>it's 0 to 10%, and average at 5%When you include Catalans and Basques, yes. Western and Southern Iberia is around 10%, central Iberia is slightly less. They also have double digit East Med admixture btw, which you hate. But you white knight for them and consider them your pvre Evropa brothers unlike the "terroni". You are hilarious man.
Why don't Basques (Iberians before turning into Nafri mutts, so the original racial stock of the Iberian peninsula) cluster with Republican Romans on G25? Right, almost like using an amateur PCA isn't doing real science and different admixtures can pull data points into different clusters leading to overlapping results.
>>17191950SAME EXACT ARGUMENTS LMAO, you are absolutely this poster >>17191938 in that picnope, the average of iberia was calculated with all iberians from all iberia, it didn't lower because of basque, IBS are all iberians from all iberia and only a small percentage of them is basquefinally you're giving up the larp>They also have double digit East Med admixture btw, which you hate.i don't hate anything, i want you to stop shitposting against iberians in the name of italy, do it as what you are, a turksouth italians are relatively more mixed, this is not hate, it's a fact, even more so for the dodecanense greeks
>>17191944>"east med" does not exist, you mean middle eastern maybe, we have 10-20% middle eastern ancestrymiddle eastern ancestry does not exist. european myceneans were more similar to middle eastern carians that to everyone else. middle eastern saudis are completely different from myceneans, carians and lebanese
>>17191961You hate your country, you hate terroni. You're one of the celt larpers who wants to form a breakaway state. It is hate, you hate Southern Italians and have some strange obsessive love of Iberians because you overlap on some amateur software made in a Polish guy's basement.
>>17191968i don't hate my country and i don't hate southern italians and i don't larp as a celtwhy do you hate west meds? and stop talking about unity in fact i should be the one asking you why do you hate sicily and sardinians and men with r1b, why do you have half of greece for having too much slavic admixture and slavic ydna haplotypes for your tastes>>17191965this is a semantic game, east med in popular imagination means lebanese
>>17191981*why do you haTe half of greece for having too much slavic admixture and slavic ydna haplotypes for your tastes
>>17191981>didn't even deny being a muh padania separatist>"I DON'T HATE SOUTHERN ITALIANS THO!"lol, stay classy
>>17191950And despite the supposed NA ancestry, Iberians still are shifted more North than Italians at large. LOL. Like how non-white do you have to be to pull that off?
>>17191981>lebaneseactual phoenician admixture is very low in europe outside of sicily and maybe calabria. when people talk about east meds they actually mean aegeans in most cases
>>17191991Because of your subhuman hunterjeet blood that makes you look like a negro. Iberians don't have more steppe than Italians on average.
>>17191988i never made a single thread against southern italy in my entire life while you made probably hundreds of threads about iberians being shit, r1b being shit, sicily being shit, sardinia being shit, northern greeks being shitthat's okay just stop spamming those threads while larping as italian, you are turkish>>17192000"east med" is not a clearly defined category and has clearly something to do with taleb and lebanon in popular culture, just say what you have to say without saying it's east med or i'm gonna assume you're talking about taleb
>>17191991It's because of their large WHG component. WHG appears on PCAs to be extremely Northern European shifted far more than even Northern Europeans and far away from everything else. So what happens is even small amounts of WHG will pulls them far in that direction. This extra WHG makes them overlap more with North Euros on PCAs, which leads to lots of confusion from people who don't understand linear algebra and statistics that they're "whiter than xyz".It's like someone being half Basque and half Finnish and because they overlap on a PCA with Poles saying>HALF FINNS HALF BASQUES ARE LITERALLY POLISH! HALF FINNS HALF BASQUES ARE THE CLOSEST GENETIC RELATIVES OF THE POLISH PEOPLE!
>>17192009not true and that's none of your business since you're turkish anyway
>>17192020>West Sicilianthe most levantine part of italy
>>17191960>Republican Romans on G25A complete Shitberian fake btw. Pic related. They made up a fake average to we wuz. There's only a single sample they can really claim to be close to but it's just as close to Lombards as it is to them, so they don't get to claim it more than them.
>>17192037G25 is curated by Davidski too, a lot of his data is trash taken from questionable sources and he dismisses or accepts certain data somewhat arbitrarily.
>>17192037replying to yourself, you're bad at samefagging, the average isn't made up by anyone other than the harvad researchers and david used that average for his chartno one cares dude, most of the threads about iberians being close to latins are made by you anyway
>>17190854>>17187594Who makes these bullshit maps and why?
>>17192040second map with sizzi was made by OP
>>17192043I'm not OP and I saved it from someone else and included some of my own graphs in it. I also have no idea who that faggot is. Some polentone separatist?
>>17190810why does sizzi deny the lombard-sicilian connection?seems to be a major flaw in his narrow worldview siculo-lombards are the second most common noble stock (after catalan) and it's a rather significant population
>>17192095don't larp idiot, you spammed that meme in many threads and you said yourself it was sizzi, we talked about it alreafy, your larp is really crumbling in from of our eyes
>>17192106Who is "Sizzi"? I didn't make the original (which is this). I just added some of my own stuff in it.
>>17192097Does the surname Spagnuolo or Spagnolo mean Spanish ancestry?
>>17192117idki'd say it's likely
>>17192114quit trolling, we talked about this already in the other thread, you literal turkish incel, stopthe more you deny it the more i'm convinced you're just a troll
>>17192121I thought it was some random Venetian. No idea who that fag is. I also don't really like polentone btw. They're Celto-Germanic larpers like Shitberians.
>>17192125you know exactly who he is, you're not italian, no one cares what you like or not like
>>17192128Why do you care so much about me not being Italian if you don't like the idea of the Italian nation, polenta? And why do you care about Iberian brownoids so much? They're Somali tier compared to Greeks. Your Gcope25 software doesn't really reflect phenotypes.
>>17192013This is true, the Spanish overlapping with Etruscan populations is a PCA artifact, and their subclade of R1b is entirely different. You need a PCA like>>17191773To examine the ethnogenesis of Spainards, which have some Anatolian/Aegean (probably minor Levant as well) which pushes them from Basques nearer to Italians, and then minor berber admixture pushes them westward. Anyone saying Spainards don't have Berber and East Med admixture is LYING Italians probably have some minor Berber as well BTW, just at a much lower frequency than the Spanish
>>17192160>Why do you care so much about me not being Italian if you don't like the idea of the Italian nation, polenta?because you're a turkish shitposterwhy do you care so much about larping as italian? why do you pretend to care about the "italian" nation when you hate r1b, sicily and sardinia?>And why do you care about Iberian brownoids so much? They're Somali tier compared to Greeks. Your Gcope25 software doesn't outta here with this g25 cope, everything i say is supported by studiesgreeks are even more heterogeneous than italians, i'm barely related to a dodecanense
>>17192009>>17192013>>17192165All this cope to try to explain away the FACT that Iberians are more northern shifted genetically than terroni. Jewtalians are short, curly-haired, with hook-noses, when people think of them they think of a jewish looking goblin creature, when people think of IBERIANS they think of conquistador chads that look like Pique.
People have a distorted view of what Southern Italy means. Southern Italy isn't Rome and below, it's Naples and below.
>>17192173Where are you from if you aren't a Shitberian larper? Only Friulians and Aostans can claim to not have much to do with East Meds.
>>17192183I don't know what "North Shifted" means here, steppe? WHGroids were literal 80 IQ and anatomically convergent to Dravidians and Pygmies, I'd rather be more ANF any day of the weekYou know WHGroids were literally the niggers of Europe right? Literally short, violent, dark and low IQ
>>17192188Tuscany is East Med.
>>17192193Goblin monkey, fuck off.
>>17192193Based. Total hunterjeet death. Jeetberia needs to be cleansed of hunterjeet genes like Italy was.
>>17192097kek. Sizziboos can't answer this
>>17192190Exactly, they're dishonest. Lombards are 30% Imperial Roman East Meds they hate so much themselves. These arguments don't make sense. The only Italians who don't have LARGE amounts of East Med are from South Tyrol or Aosta and they're not ethnic Italians.All ethnic Italians have large amounts of East Mediterranean Imperial Roman blood. Cope25 distances don't change that genetic truth. Lombards having a large Gallic admixture component doesn't remove that 30% Imperial Roman from their blood and never will, just like the large WHG doesn't remove the 10% Nafri from Iberians. If Lombards hate "East Med Middle Eastern mutts" so much, they should write a will giving all their worldly possessions to someone from South Tyrol then shoot themselves. It would make the world less Eastern Mediterranean.However unlike Nafri blood in Jeetberians, which is really a disgrace to have, there's nothing wrong with East Med.
>>17192193but WHG were trad based chadpilled hunters dawg they were based and chad and not graincuck farmbugs bruh
>>17192199WHGroids were more subhuman than Natufians historically speakingANF and Steppe elevated your bloodline to the cusp of sapience only for you to act like a WHGger and chimp out against ANFGODS for civilizing you (just like niggers as well)
>>17192190>Where are you from if you aren't a Shitberian larper? i'm from northern italyeast med is a meme>>17192215just stop samefagging retard
>>17192223If WHGs still existed they'd be burning down supermarkets and getting kneeled on by Steppe AND ANF
>>17192227>>17192204>>17192195>>17192193stop samefagging, when you start samefagging you really go too far, too obvious reallyyou're not italian
>>17192233It doesn't matter if you don't like the term because some Lebanese stock trader made cringy tweets you don't like. It's used in genetics papers, it carries a specific meaning. Is it somewhat vague? Yes, but so are many regional terms. We all know what it means especially when provided with added context.You don't get to police how language especially scientific language is used because you just don't like it.
>>17192240>It's used in genetics papersit's used in genetic papers to mean lebanese, it doesn't matter if you don't like it, it's how it is, you don't get to appropriate terms because you want them all for yourselfwhy do you larp as italian?
>>17192215>East MedWhenever I ser this word, I recognize you, Sikeliot. Can you stop making threads about Italians already? We are sex symbols in real life and get the hottest Nord women despite the "East Med slave blood" from 2000 years ago.
>>17192239I should have mentioned, I believe WHG had a higher frequency of schizophrenia as well which seems quite relevant here Iberogroid
Guys, guys, relaxBillions will die if you keep doing this
>>17192244easily edited, why do you even bother posting this trash, i'm italian whether you like that or not, you need to stop this bullshityou already admitted not being italian, stop using us to attack iberians
>>17192242>>17192243It's basically Caucasus actually. Armenian/TVRK shift. Levantines are Natufians who got raped by Caucasians.
>>17192254another day same charts, caucasus as in "armenians" maybesame argument, why do post this shit, you're not even italian, think about the dodecanense or whatever shithole you come from
>>17192259thracian greeks are truly the best greeks
>>17192215>pure celtic longobardYes
>>17192262Yes, it's unfortunate that they have to share a country with people from rhodes
>>17192259You can draw a line pointing to Turks, Georgians and Iranians as well.
>>17192262yes probably, they seem to be the best
Historically speaking are Italians or Iberians built for BBC more Which country takes more BBC per capita And I mean BBC not Mozabite peckers
>>17192267there's a much better cline between north italy to levant or north italy to armeniansee the cyprian? that's where you guys from rhodes fall on such pca
>>17192264troll samefag, not a north italian
>>17192265northern greeks should create a new country with based bulgarians and north macedonians and leave the rhodes shitters behind forever
>>17192271Cyprians are mixed with Phoenicians a bit. Better than being mixed with Slavshits.
>>17192281>based bulgarians and north macedoniansyou mean low IQ stupid inferior criminal slavs? Southern Greeks and islanders are much superior to them and any Greek knows this btw
>>17192282really hope based thracian and macedonian greeks create their own independent countryit's time for you freeloaders from rhodes to live with your own resources
>>17192294
>>17192287greek islanders are shit, they honestly should just identify as turks
This is how Iberogroids were created but instead it was Bell Beaker Men and WHGpygmy women (basically the niggers of Europe)Being 10% Natufian is bad enough, but at least their material culture was not literal Sub Saharan tier (unlike WHG)Even Columbus now is thought to be a J2 (Jewish or Italian) AnatolianGOD Spainsissies on suey watch
>>17192299cyprus takes EU gibs, we need to kick cypriots and dodecanense greeks outside of the EU, it's crucial, we need to free thracian greeks from dodecanense oppression
>>17192303looks turkish/dodecanese
>>17192302>>17192310Hi Frisian, how are you
>>17192303Even Franco was third fiddle in WW2 behind MussoliniAt least Iberians could have said "we wuz explorers n shiieeet" but it's come to light Columbus was J2, AEGEANGOD now.What do they have left, torturing bulls? Muh dik? How does it feel that an Aegean MIGRANT to West Med was your most well known Spainard? At least when the Greeks colonized the Islands and South Italy they mixed with other West Eurasians. What did Spain do? Have you heard of the Favela? (a WHGroid trait to be sure)
>>17192310>Slav(e) admixture improved Greece, I swear
>>17192302Northern Greeks are dumb mutt poors with Slav, Arvanite Albanian, and Turkic DNA. Islanders are rich and successful Chads. You don't understand anything.
>>17192315how's the weather in ankara?
>>17192319Poland is actually very high GDP now compare to South Italy They're EHGods not WHGroids what do you expect?
>>17192319based thracian greeks need to be freed from the oppression of the dodecanesedodecanese should just be given to turkey, in my opinion
>>17192324pooland is located next to Europe’s largest economy
>>17192165I've already explained over and over again why this don't make sense. Modern Iberians have more WSH than all these populations (Berbers, Basques and Imperial Romans) So Spaniards being uniquely a mix of these 3 is impossible.Meanwhile the proto celts were VERY similar to Spaniards and the etruscans/romans originated in the same place tooNow do the maths
>>17192325Frisian trolling
>>17192322I'm not an Armenoid Central Asian hybrid How does it feel that Columbus was J2? How does it make you feel an ANFGOD had to do what WHGroids couldn't? The reason they couldn't reach the America's before him was pretty obvious in hindsight, WHGroids like their modern counterparts, Bantus and Sentinelese, cannot swim.
i imagine a future where all terronis are deported to northern greece while all northern greeks are shipped to southern italythe new "east med" rich greece becomes a third world country, while the new italy, full of real south euros (north italians and north greeks) prospers and explores spacethe north italian / north greek pheno becomes predominant in all space colonies
>>17192336Kino
>>17192336holy fucking based
>>17192327What subclade of R1b are Iberogroids? That's right, a different one than Etruscans. It's over Pedro Gonzalez, Aegean and AnatolianGODS own you. Hail our people. Hail Victory.
>>17192336>>17192341>>17192344Slavshit discord tranny gtfo
>>17192345Etrusans were p312 and both df27 and u152 are branches of p312
>>17192335i could not care less about columbus
>>17192345>>17192335you are turkish, or at best from rhodesyou cannot stop it, the future southeastern euro will be a venetian/thracian mix
>>17192350We both subclades with a TMRCA of six gorillion years ago n shieeeeet
do they really? lmaoDistance to: Greek_Dodecanese_Rhodes_(anti_iberian_schizo)0.08436108 Greek_East_Macedonia_and_Thrace
>>17192361
>>17192356p312 west med cousins, my iberian cousins stay based, rhodian retards keep seething>>17192361unfathomable
>>17192363there's an enormous difference between shitty rhodes and glorious thracian greeks
>>17192365I'm actually from Peloponnese which avoided Slavnigger admixture for the most part. This is elite samples btw.
I bet WHG had tiny peckers
>>17192372According to WHGgier logic this makes Central Italians literally Aegean Greeks despite having differing Neolithic components and unipaternals Jej
>>17192372you are form rhodes, ugh, don't talk to me
>>17192383people from rhodes like the anti iberian poster are not the same species as west meds, they're even alien to the most based greeks from thacia and macedonia
just imagine east macedonian greeks instead of calabriansthracian greeks instead of campanianscentral macedonian greeks instead of apuliansthessaly greeks instead of siciliansjust imagine the power of such a nation, a north italian north greek nationand all south italians go to greece where they will meet rhodian poster
>>17192395Just imagine. Cyprians genociding all Slavshit subhumans. The Balkans would improve a lot.
>>17192386>>17192395>>17192400
Do slavs or Greek islanders have bigger peckers
>>17192400ugh... why is this disgusting Rhodian talking to me?in the near future people from cyprus and the dodecanense will be jailed for speaking with a north italian, a macedonian or a thracian
>>17192402based iberian r1b p312 west med cousins iberians will be welcomed into the new italian nation made up exclusively of north italians and north greekswe will create a true south euro nation
>Slavshits face when Thracians are closest to Central Italians
>>17192415i'm talking about modern thracian greeks, the based people that have barely anything to do with rhodeskeep crying, we will bring them here, we will create a new italian nation of north italians and north greeks
>>17192375Yes, that's probably true. ANF heavy people are stereotyped as being well hung. Italians, Greeks, Turks. Can confirm, I am 20cm because I'm an ANF god. No such stereotype exists for Nords, Iberians, Slavs.
>>17192426We need total Slav(e) death and eugenics in mainland Greece.
>>17192429>inability to readlook in the upper right corner, the blue squares are roman imperial individuals
>>17192160>randomly selected soccer playersWhoever made is too retarded to notice that "randomly selected soccer players" is just as likely to have a strong selection bias as "randomly selected Math Olympiad participants" or "randomly selected yeshiva students".
>>17192427>l-l-le iberiansit's weird how you always try to bring them upyou're not related to us bro, you're from turkey, we're more related to iberians
>>17192439>Shitberians face when PHOENICIAN BVLLS are more related to Greeks than them
>>17192375iberians and italians are considered well hungturks on the other hands have tiny peckers
>>17192433>yeshiva studentsYou finally reveal your true identity schlomo Trying to seed division in the MedYou're a Levantine hybrid not a real Euro Med Vile rat
>>17192443i'm italian keep seething about it, no one cares about the myceneans, you're from turkey, you're not one of us my guy>>17192444this
>>17192447Vile Jewish rat
>>17192447>You finally reveal your true identity schlomostfu nigger I'm Mexican. I literally just popped into this thread and happened to take notice of that retarded-ass pic caption. kys /sp/astic.
The "Frisian schizo" doesn't speak Dutch because he's a split personality of subhuman Mordvix. Never forgetti.>>>/int/203656091>>>/int/203656226
>>17192455>Mexican Crypto Sephardic Marrano NIGGER
>>17192455based mexican btfoing turkish that larps as italian
>>17192456They're all Slavniggers hiding behind Nordics and Germanics. Is that not obvious.
>>17192457I'm 0% Sephardic. My Spanish ancestors were all Roman Catholics, as were my German, Dutch, and post-conquest Huastec ancestors.
>>17192456there's no frisian schizo hereonly this faggot turk hiding behind us italians while attacking iberians
VGH, the real italy, north italians in the north and northern greeks in the south, just imagine, just imagine how powerful we would be
>>17192460Are you the Greek/Italian/Turk? Post something in my thread with your flag.>>>/int/203629424
>>17192460I don't agree with Hitler on much, but he was 100% correct about Slavs.
>>17192467thisanti iberian poster needs to post here>>>/int/203629424
>>17192466lul, it would probably be even worse than it is now considering the statistics of northern greece and southern italy.
>>17192480it would be an invincible nation, a true southern european nation with low "east med", a truly sovlful country, we would have conquered the world
The Greek/Italian/Turk is Greek. Thank me: >>>/int/203657391
>>17192476>>17192467he replied>>>/int/203657391he's a greek from rhodesthe larp is officially over
>>17192499>he's a greek from rhodesBASED. My ANF brother.
>>17192486anon... the gdp of central macedonia (the second highest in greece) is almost at the same level as that of umbria...>weyou are neither northern italian nor northern greek, i know you are trying to bait the anti-iberian spammer but this is pathetic
>>17192502there's no anf brotherhood, you're literally from rhodes, you are strongly related to lebanese and cypriots and turks
>>17192508I'm not him you fool.
>>17192505i'm north italian bvll>central macedonia (the second highest in greece) is almost at the same level as that of umbriapowerful, better than terronis, imagine what they could achieve without rhodes bringing them down
Spain is a black baby factory
>>17192514kek, is lower than the one of calabria>i'm north italian bvll>terronissmettila di baitare anon
>>17192520like your mother
>>17192514l'è sgia nocc, devi inda al letto per lavor doman polentone!
the future is venetian-thracian, you can't stop it
>>17192542>the future is venet-ACK!https://www.fanpage.it/politica/zaia-annuncia-il-centro-regionale-per-il-cambio-di-sesso-in-veneto-e-una-questione-di-civilta/
Why does a little Anatolian blood make slavs and polentonis chimp out so much? Get over yourselves, subhumans.
>>17192193>>17192193PCa sources?!
>>17187570>What happened to Spanish alike ItalicsGot raped by churkas, steppoids, celts, arabs, berbers, jews and germanics.
>>17188077>>17188312Balts have the most WHG (20-25%). Nordicucks Scandicucks have less than Slavs so only ~10%.
I have literally have no idea what the fuck aanybody is saying in this threadis this what the endgame of racial autism looks like?
>>17192939thanks to wojaks going mainstream (and their use in autistic haplogroup/gene infographs like these) normies from twitter know about them and spam the board with them. it was never this bad before 2 years ago
