If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.>Cool teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge Bridgman>Cool booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFun With A PencilFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread >>7227880
I wish I never tried drawing. What a waste.
>>7230782Shut the fuck up and draw a cutie.
>>7230792i'd suck her cock
>>7230792Pre/beg/ taste
drawing cubes is so fucking hard. i wish i could afford an art class or some kind of guidance. killing myself
>>7230779Why the fuck is this garbage image still being circulated?? The gene-failure that shat this out is a hopelessly retarded permabeg whose words are worse that useless - it's actively harmfulFuck's sake
Tell me where to start and how to proceed afterwards please, there is just too much content i can't process all of them at once, i'm tempted to pick Brent Eviston's art and science of drawing course plus Vilppu's Renaissance Figure drawing and reading Drawing with the Right Side of the Brain to construct some base to start with, are these good enough or am i wasting my time with some of these?
>>7230822Then fix it. What would you change?
Tried following a youtube tutorial but I ended up with this garbage. Trying to take drawing seriously was a mistake.
>>7230890>whining on /beg/, dad.gallery, /DAD/It's not bad. However, I am tired of reading these self hating comments bullshit. Just quit.
>>7230890Quit then.
>>7230890stop being such a faggot you're doing fine
>>7230890You’re doing fine anon
>>7230962>He use AI porn as drawing refs
>>7230836Just pick one and finish it, if your artistic language is lacking and you haven't drawn too much, Draw Right is a great one.>>7230922I see a lot of developed skills here. your mark making is the biggest bottleneck. check out steve huston gesture videos his goal is gesture+structure and staying characterful/true to the figure. His book is fantastic and combined with his free videos is so helpful. Notice how all his shapes taper, and how they mirror the curvature of the solid 90% of the time, i.e. if one side is convex, the other is concave.https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTYYQXeJbnc55rSaEkrV51jGajAJA5W7X
>>7230953I've been trying like a retard for 8 years and it's all trash
>>7231009Quit then.
>>7231009hey anon. similar to me. but i've actually been progressing a bit since i started taking criticism here and learning what i can do to fix my art. its not over.
First time drawing with charcoal
>>7231019I'm retarded so I never know how to apply the criticism people give me.
I want to understand forms better. Am i doing this right? please share comments.thank you
Board’s fuckin dead today, eh?
Trying some shading
>>7231009You should avoid strong marks. The lips would be fine without those. Use the flat for big blocks of dark color.You've done best on the nose and neck, so don't force it.
heads
Tablet: Intuos Pro MSoftware: Sai2OK, one of my biggest issue is color. I like cel-shade, but my color theory acknowledge is poor.Any advice?
Are these vids good? https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMXbAPr21di-Ox-dmDwL2riWedei1dn9S
>>7230792what is this bulge
What if you don’t draw?
>>7231092Mons pubis.
How it looks?
>>7231100PUBA
trying some shit
>>7231125Better than me, talented faggot
>>7231158Not the reply i was lookin for but gotta say that i got 0 talent, i just draw for 10 years.Hope that makes you feel better anon.
>>7231125cute and well drawn, but smug flat catgirl from the right side beyond the frame speaks to my heart more, so finish her up as well
>>7231176Ignore the spiteful pleb. I kneel to this dedication
>>7231125The shirt is the problem, yeah it needs to go
>>7231176make a progress chart? theyre always interesting to see
>>7231179Can you post one good drawing from each year? I'm not the other anon, but I'm super curious how general progression looks like.
>>7231089I like those videos, the analysis/history playlist is the real gem.>>7231088I think your shadow shapes are the biggest problem, I don't understand the lighting, shouldn't the under breasts be in shadow for example?Most pros I like group all shadows into a single continuous shape instead of pockets of shadow, it helps guide the eye through the figure and also gives it volume.For cel shading, I like pixel art and 80/90 anime.I love velma's right leg decision>>7231125profitable, but I find it stiff and unenergetic.
>>7231176>>7231182Talent lies not in how beautifully you draw, but in how far you can advance, this is best demonstrated in mathematics and other sciences where a special type of thinking is needed, the implementation of formulas and laws in tasks and the ability to find a way out if the original formula is not enough, with drawing as well, just here you see crappy drawn cubes in perspective and curved shapes, but in mathematics you have an unsolved problem.
how does this look?
>>7231230pretty great, though it took me a moment to realize that right arm is supporting head, position feels less than obvious to read at a glance. also my back can feel this hard wooden chair frame ramming into my back and maybe even resting on exposed spine bones every now and then, but let's do our best to not think about it, position is really nice and kinda character-defining otherwise
>>7231208>>7231210picked some random stuff. Yeah Rem is super cute and i will make sure to give her special treatment.>>7231182i just like drawing but thanks haha>>7231195If you say so i might make it happen haha.
>>7231249Thanks, that was interesting to see.
Hey guys, thought this might be interesting. I basically went on art hiatus from early March to just recently, and my figure drawing has degenerated in that time. I thought it might be interesting to see, and serve as a cautionary tale. The figures at the top are from early March, then the figures at the bottom are from the past couple days. Big decline! At least to my eyes. Jeff Watts pointed out that art gains are hard to get and easy to lose, but they’re also easy to maintain with even just a little bit of drawing every once in a while. When things (or you) are all fucked up, just do a quick little sketch or study now and then to keep your gains. Don’t be like me! Don’t stop drawing!>>7230492Ah, Neco-senpai! I am not any of those anons, but I wanted to thank you for such an excellent effortpost.
continuation of >>7228352honestly I feel like I'm missing something from the original sketch, and my perspective isn't the best. maybe I just need to be more careful with the linework, dunno. I used to make the drawabox warmup, but I stopped before doing Bridgman, maybe I'll retake it>>7231039I answered in the previous thread in case you didn't see it
>>7231249Evolved into /int/ Over the year, yes, I knew it. Nature is a cruel scum, someone is talented in mathematics, someone in programming, someone has a gift for drawing, and someone's figures are frozen in a crooked and dirty moment... forever... Sometimes you're a Howie or a Pawell and you have to put up with it
Experimenting with style... what do you think??
Quoting my post here>>7231269
>>7231291the skin shades look blurry
>>7231291i like the eyeadd shadows under the bangs to make it look less flat
I don't get perspective of this carI get it's 2 point but can't ever properly get vanishing points that match
>>7231336This was my attempt at breaking it down but still don't get ir
>>7231303Who are you quoting
>>7231337focus on things that you know are/must be parallel to each other, use the wheels.
>>7231336Not sure if it helps, but it's a considerably long focal length, a serious telephoto. Those lenses flatten everything, so perspective lines would be very flat and deviate very little in terms of angle.
>>7231345kinda like this, two boxes from a simplified position of wheel hub to a simplified position of top of the suspension strut
>>7231350>>7231343Ah thank you bothI'm saving the image
doodling
>>7231336don't bother, they are pretty far away. If you want to get good with this read Scott Robertson how to draw book.
Now I'll try to colour ir without the lines
>>7231343
>>7231309Thank you, yeah I didn't notice that. They got too blurry indeed
Digital gestural portrait sketch
>>7231291Needs hard edges for cast shadows. Some of the form shadows could be a little softer maybe, but they’re honestly fine.
Paw studyYet another day spent resenting furry art
>>7231447Keep on it anon and soon you'll get that DoD money.
i was autistically scribbling and suddenly invented new nose, i guess i saw it somewhere. do you guys think it can be appealing?
>>7230779i made this for fun. dont ask why its roblox.
>>7231499im not very good at drawing stylish things, so the outfit and hair kind of suck. unless i have an idea i want to draw. this was made on the spot.
>>7231496Nah anon go back to shark nose, it is your fate
>>7231496looks like your trying to draw like this
I tried not chicken scratching. Solid lines are scary, no room left for imagination, no space to pretend i wasn't trying too hard, stuff feels way more incorrect than it did through sketch episode. eh, gotta learn eventually
>>7231499criticism is open of course
>>7231524take a look at how to draw brachioradialis on the forearm to make that foreshortening
>>7231527why are you torturing us by not rotating the picture
>>7231499Could say that head is tilted 30deg to the side while actual face stays 100% flat towards the viewer, but otherwise, feels like a fine doodle for what it is. Kinda stylish, kinda pleasant to look at, aside of this face angle that makes head feel like it got kinda ripped off and placed at wrong offset
could someone tell me what im fucking up with the eyes? red version is my copy and blue is traced. i feel like a lot of the times when i try to draw eyes they always look a bit off
>>7231530You mean, the middle of the inner elbow thingy? Will do for sure, even on my arm I could see there's a nice shape from this bulgy upper arm muscle and lower, but I gave up after a couple attempts to get it right. Unfortunately, anatomy is something that will come with time. Was this elbow the first thing that caught your eye in terms of what's wrong, or are you simply bringing out low-hanging fruits for improvement ideas? I think i screwed up entire perspective and body feels very, uh, deflated of sorts to me, but I'm not sure if I'm not hyperfocusing on it.
>>7231125This is similar to the level i want to reach to be able to make my own comic.
>>7231535Good to know, I can notice the head perspective issue now. Ill go look at some references, thanks
>>7231539I prefer red one, but if you want to hear the difference, I feel like left girl is just kinda focused and involved while right one is reading the book in "20 hours without sleep, exam in 30min" manner. You drew eyes closer to an eyelid and made lower eyelid less pronounced, so she just feels kinda nice and pleasant, right side girl got eye iris completely separated from eyelid, lower eyelid is very strong and feels like dark circles under eyes, clearly a little bit less than sane. Right side also got one eye significantly larger than the other, this is good for expressing insanity.or you simply mean that you screwed up eye iris shape and positioning on her left eye, that could also be what you're looking for. She's not looking exactly at the book, though it takes a moment to notice that, but then again right side girl has a thousand yard stare so she's hardly any better
All of these faces could be in the same universe. What I mean is, they look consistent even with the faces with perspective?>>7229708Veronica, I have to google that artist, and I'm not that guy, kek. I don't believe a successful artist is still posting in this thread. By the way, it looks like everything is already done.>>7230307I hope so. I will keep the style but maybe add a story or a theme. I like that guy, but I would enjoy it more if he followed a story or plot with his OCs and not just hit it and quit it.>>7231291Good. I thought the same >>7231395 but with just a very little definition, but it's nice just how it is. The only part that looks off and weird is the genital area and the pubic hair.>>7231040Solid construction. Nice perspective. The right leeg is just to long for the position and the perspective.
>>7231505anon pwease no, i don't want to hear people's "what's with her nose" again>>7231520i'm not sure, i really like telepurte's and gurumo's noses, but never had to study their styles properly
>>7231556>Veronica, I have to google that artisthttps://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/veronica-mona/list?title_no=840044&webtoon-platform-redirect=true
>>7231524Try the opposite, drag them outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhF4fBetN4Y
>>7231539it looks like more perspective was added to the eyes with the proportions, i also notice a difference in the skull that was drawn being more accurate to distance.
>>7231555thanks for the feedback, I didn't even realize the lower eyelid thing. I notice a lot too when I draw characters i can't exactly align their eyes to be looking in the direction i want. I feel like this is mostly a positioning thing like you mentioned though. Is there any advice for this kinda issue?
I should stop
>>7231570As an utter beg, I'm usually starting up with a line for an eye pupil, then I make sure it works, then I draw the rest of the eye once I'm more or less convinced that position is right, line eye serves as a point of reference. But one way or another, it gets better with time, I remember struggling with that a lot and then it kinda went away naturally, so don't worry about it too much.
>>7231577But this is good
>>7231566Not sure if I can see that working for classic generic animu girls. I've seen lots of people here doing wiggly lines and putting them together into an image, but it wasn't exactly manga style I'm aiming for. But thanks, I'll keep that in mind once I'm drawing another thing, maybe it'll go somewhere.
>>7231577Sir, please stop being menopausal
>>7231125giant ass headproportions are horrible because of it
i drew this trash hehe
>>7231125The same as the last 800 times you drew this one girl
Ranni wip
>>7231125It makes my penis the big penis
>>7231622she's cute! nice arms and hands btw
I hope I can finish this piece with the vision in my mind
>>7231626i really like the overall composition, keep it up
reggianini study
>>7231626i really like this. reminds me of the cutscene in rune factory 4 where you meet the butler girl. partially because of the hairstyle but the lighting and the setting are also making me nostalgic for rf4. those were good times
working on this onenot sure about her right arm
>>7231643Her cape has volume and the shoulder area is too small when you imagine what's below. Also right arm is relaxed so it's shoulder should be lower too, on a more resting positionQuick redline but I think it shows what bothers me about it
hows this pose lookin lads
played around with it some more
>>7231661Kino but doing that arm properly will be extremely painful (for you)
>>7231666As long as its technically possible then I'm allright with it for it looking cool.
>>7231662dobby was a bad elf
>>7231660you are right, thanks frenI'll make adjustments and post again
>>7231672dobby dun goofed
>>7231673No problem bro. You've helped me before so it feels good to finally give something back
>>7231661Blog?
how old does this character look? he's supposed to be like 40-45 but i think it may not look like it
criticize my art! What's wrong here?
>>7231700He looks like it, take a break, youre jaded.
https://x.com/_OH_G_/status/1811788928116228184what tool is this?
30min, idk what I'm doing.
>>7231720In CSP it's called Symmetrical Ruler
>>7231720a crutch
>>7231700i recommend removing the line of his brow and adding some fluff to the hair to make his head less boxmaxxedi also think the cheek sag is reliable to show age
>>7231724do you paint the same black guy everyday?
>>7231382Thit's it for today
>>7231230this is really good! is it ok if use it as a reference in the future?
>>7231725found it, check out my rorscharch test
>>7231744Looks like a womb tattoo.
I fixed some things>>7231706is this a viltrumite in dbz style? kinda based >>7231720symmetrical ruler, I can tell you that using this for facial features will give an unnatural appearance>>7231700maybe a little grey hair on the sides like the leader of the fantastic four>>7231743cute
>>7231743nice bulge
>>7231744FUCK YOU CRAB
Sup beg, i hate boxes.>>7231724you know what you are doing>>7231706bad value range, for anime thot her hand is too manly>>7231661i kneel>>7231631i would abuse the fact i am in digital and added so many shadows and highlights via multiple and overlay modes it would probably stop looking like the original>>7231626i kneel>>7231601add form, bulge to his pants and post it with tag shota kemono on pixiv and you will win>>7231418a rare post with actual decent drapery>>7231336almost no car ever is perfect box, for various reasons automoto designers use various angled lines, you are looking for perpendicular lines where are none. Also when objects are photographed from large distances, the vanishing points are so further apart the lines "stop vanishing" and instead get almost horizontal>>7231291wrong shades on her face breaks it. otherwise its coomable. meh value range>>7231284>mwf you are Pawellit is over>>7231088your colors are good enough for what you are trying to acomplish. i would just suggest to experiment with almost transparent air brush with pink color and add some to strategic spots like bellies or booba or armpits>>7231023big advantage of charcoal is easy blending, pull out qtip and BLEND>>7230836>still did not post his work along the postcongratulations, you turned into howie. it is over for you
>>7231754That's the spirit
Pawel hasn't responded to either of my recent posts.Its over
I'm doing copies as practice but I don't feel like I am learning much from them. I am copying the linework mostly which I guess is good for developing observational skill and line quality, but I am not learning much on the construction and anatomy front, because I am copying a completed piece and not its constituent parts or how it's built up. It's like trying to learn a cake recipe by tasting the finished product, I don't know how many eggs go in or what heat to bake it in. Any advice for a line of attack for this, or should I just learn anatomy and construction separately?
>>7231772it's okay. No one ever responds to mine
Shameless coom wip
an aesthetic drawing i did. criticism is always welcome
>>7231805wtf is an aesthetic drawing
>>7231799damnn you ate with this
>>7231799blog?
>>7231807its just supposed to be appealing to the eye lmao. it justs means im trying to make it appear a certain style
>>7231773okay so, i have no idea what you just said in that sentence so im gonna break it down for you. **if copying is tracing then stop. it wont get you anywhere. ** these are basics.look for shapes in drawings. notice how things like the head are made of many shapes, draw them out and put them together. referencing art is very good, use the last tip and look for stuff. after you map out the shapes/sketch, you can begin lineart.lineart. you suck at lineart.. how do you improve? easy. practice drawing different lines. sit yourself down with a paper and pencil, and try drawing different shapes. circles are the most prominent and important, you gotta be consistent **unless you have an amazing visual ability which i assume you dont. coloring. this one is hard to explain because im naturally inclined to working well with colors. learn color theory. other colors look different together when placed inside/ different colors. theres more to learn about it anyway.composition is very important for a lot of drawings, most of you like porn, so this wont matter a lot so go google it if you care.formless things like hair. how am i gonna find a shape in this? think about the volume and the hair accumulated. if its tied up, it has a point where all of it is jumbled together. the looser is is, the less of a silhouette it will have sticking to the head, and because of gravity will be lower, low pigtails would rest on your shoulders for exampleshading and highlights, girls who do makeup will know this. i assume you want an anime style, if not go ask your sister or mom where she puts her highlighter and thats where the light will be shaped and placed the most. as for shading, its better to get a reference for the lighting. **colors go in hand with shading, never use black it looks bad. find a good reference with the pose and lighting you want or use one of those anatomy figure posing sites to do it. some of them have lighting options.
>>7231799Pigu....
>>7231820Copying as in having it on one side and drawing it on the right. Copying by eye. I'm not tracing, or else I would've called it tracing.Thanks for the advice but I was thinking more of 3D form instead of 2D shapes. And anatomy.
>>7231825>>7231773man just pyw
>>7231826Here:>>7229247
>>7231825yea you do that with shapes, just 3d ones. you still need to learn basics like bone structure, muscle placement, etc
Guys should i draw kangel from nso?
>>7231825most beginners do this and its a shit way to learn. try doing box anatomy instead
Why is drawing so hard.
>>7231840looks good to me
>>7231828ohh, I gave you "advice" in that thread, good on you for noticing something wasn't working and trying to adjust, many people here can't do that. Something I didn't say in my later post because I didn't want to sound haughty, but now that you're starting to question your current plan of action, it might be worth exploring. Those 2 refs you are using are bad (not as a product if they sell, they sell, but as a study subject) I think you will only gain bad symbols from those. Theres a reason people tend to study the same people because they abstracted ideas so succinctly and readable that it became the most efficient way to get the general idea of X (portraits, hands, colors, shapes, etc).Its okay if you don't want to do the masters but find better art works, there is incredible work in coom art both western and eastern Red Light, Isao, Izayoi seishin, etc.I wouldn't focus on anatomy yet, invest in composition, value and form and mark making and drawing stuff will be better ROI IMO. >>7231840 perfect example of what I mean.>>7231840My favorite work in this thread so far, I find hard to follow the speech bubbles
>>7231853Thanks for the advice.I am /beg/ obviously, so I don't really have an eye for what are good or bad references. I copied art I saved because I liked it, hearing that doing so is a good source of motivation for art practice. That, and feeling that trying to learn from art that is too advanced would have me trip up harder than if the art is made of simpler elements.>Red Light, Isao, Izayoi seishinI googled these terms and found nothing conclusive, sorry.You advise against targeting anatomy currently, but my current goal in art is to draw characters and I don't really want to abandon that. Unless you mean more advanced anatomy, so stuff like building simplified mannequins in correct proportions and drawing body parts out of simple forms wouldn't count there?
>>7231799Very very nice
I was told that this is still beg. Maybe low int for style. I think I need to sharpen the colors in her hair and work on straighter lines. What else can I work on? What do I do with the bow? I'm not good with advice unless it's like step by step.. so be extra detailed :)
Havent been drawing much other than doodles.Here is a shitty flockmod doodle.
>>7231841>>7231853Thank you.
>>7231732this was v helpful, ty anon
>>7231747>No massive nipple outlineShameeeee
>>7231865>I am /beg/ obviously, so I don't really have an eye for what are good or bad references.Its part of development, I too have saved work that I like only to look at it now and think "what was I thinking if I want to learn X, Y's work would be way better to study" or "the lighting in this picture is awful and I'm not in the level to make it work".>I googled these terms and found nothing conclusive, sorry.These are H artists, since I thought that was the topic you were after. >You advise against targeting anatomy currently,because they end up hyperfixating in muscles or mannequinzation that doesnt make sense. I would go copy better work (that you like ofc), improve line work and learn to draw cylinders and cubes loosely, not looking for precision but good enough for them to be readable in space.
>>7231903Thanks again for the advice.>These are H artists, since I thought that was the topic you were after.I was. I typed the names into danbooru and didn't find anything, but I guess I didn't look hard enough, will try again later.
More flockmod doodles.
>>7231577Loved this one
>>7231661Hard to read, especially from the thumbnail.
>>7231772>>7231795His feedback and critique isn’t worth anything anyway. Very often it’s like he’s just regurgitating something he’s heard because it often times doesn’t even apply to the piece he’s giving feedback on so don’t even worry about it. He also “kneels” too often at shitty work.
>>7231661Personally, I would move the hand a little to the upper left and lower the values of the lower body, it’s too bright and makes it hard to read from afar.
>>7231741I wouldn't recommend using my works as refs so I'll give you the ref I used here
>>7230779Thoughts on how I use hard shadows?
how long should I practice this for good manga line art?what level am I currently?
If you're using a 3D model or an anime figure as reference, is it best to copy the ref as closely as possible? will it look bad if you "push the pose"?
Is this an appealing color pallete?
how do i go from top to bottom? i spent 10 mins on each head. my stuff looks messy, flat, and there are a lot of proportion mistakes. should i just build up the mileage or is there something else i can do?
>>7232079It could use some adjustments
>>7232085What exactly did you do? This looks way better
Did an oil pastel portrait of my friend making a dumb face
>>7232090whoops
>>7232087Adjusted the curves. Basically upped the reds on the more bright colors and nerfed them on the more dark zones. I ded the inverse for the blues. Its hard to demonstrate since is almost just flat colors but its more clear when you have a more varied shading. It takes a lot of trial an error but I like it that way generally
>>7232093I just realize that I never do post processing, maybe should start doing that
Tried to fix this up. I really struggled with the hips yesterday, so I redid the lower body. Still looks awful tho, the ribcage is too short, and the thighs aren't big enough.>>7232079Ooh hey I really like this, looks cute!
colour demo
Thoughts on Glenn Vilppu's courses? Which one(s) is interesting for a beginner? Looking for base foundations for drawing (anime) girls
>>7232082too much detail on the mouth and nose look at your ref carefully see how fewer lines communicate much more information its more readable. Also pay attention to the height to width ratio of the face, yours feels a bit thinner, also your female faces have male jaws. I honestly dislike the Loomis "construction", I prefer the Steve Huston approach.>>7232048Awesome really good, something I see a ton of pros do is that they link and branch their shadow shapes into a single one, it makes it easy for the eye to travel over the piece, maybe its worth exploring, a test.
Am I doing extra work for line art?When I draw I separate layers for body parts, then use a layer mask to remove covered areas.One of my drawings the legs covered 70% of the torso, but I still drew the entire torso line art, then erased the covered areas with layer mask at the final stage.
>>7232143I usually use 3 layers, face, hair and everything else.
>>7232082You never get it on the first sraft. You make a new layer and try going over the lines, finish the piece. Go in knowing that your nth try will be better.>>7232063It's training for /beg/ and a warmup before you draw. Get to drawing.
>>7232143>Am I doing extra work for line art?pyw
how often are you supposed to flip the canvas?
>draw a line of hair>scroll /ic/ up and down>refresh thread watcher>refresh catalog>scroll /ic/ up and down>refresh thread watcher>go in a thread with zero new posts>go back to catalog>refresh catalog>scroll /ic/ up and down>refresh thread watcher>draw another line of hair>repeat step 2How do I cure my adhd?
>>7232152every 37 minutes, unless jupiter is in retrograde, then you mustn't flip the canvas under any circumstances, lest the consequences ye face be dire
>>7232178Use reference>draw ball on shoulder>measure level line on arm>measure plumb line on arm>shadow s curve>make the curve>ctrl z>make the curve, slower>ctrl z>make the curve, bendier>get bored, look at next body partPossibly add music to engage the moneky brain
This was funAny criticism is welcome. I'm a bit out of my depth regarding rendering but I'm happy with the result
>>7232206wow really high effort piece and it shows. really cool perspective with a cool pose>critiquebefore you read these, know that i am worse than you lol, you look really /int/ to me .i think her right arm is broken out of socket, like its too far down from her shoulders. another thing is that staff she's holding looks really flat where its connecting to the glaive, which partially is due to shading I think, but also because i think we should be able to see the connection/bottom of the blade. for a nitpicking point, i think her hands are maybe too manly, but that may just be mei tried to do a redline to illustrate what im trying to say about the arm and the pole, but this may end up being a learning experience for me on anatomy or something.
>>7232217Nah its good. With the staff you are 100% right. Something bothered me but my brain was fried so I just said screw it it ends there.Regarding the arm, originally it was a bit higher, but that felt wrong to me since the arm should reach more or less the middle of the thigh. She's a ghost so she doesn't has thighs lol, but I placed it to more or less reach there. That made more sense to me since the exaggerated perspective and large breasts would block her shoulder from the pov, but I knew more or less where the arm should reach. Maybe the angle gives off the wrong impression, and the arm should have been placed more vertically, but that was my thought process.>Manly handsNot the first time I hear this comment so ur probably right. Need to fix this eventuallyThanks a lot for the comment, really appreciated!
just a random sketch of a twink
reffed parts but lost it..
>>7232262Hot /beg/ kino
Decided to keep it simple, just a meme drawing.
>>7232278Make the eyes farther apart plz
>>7232278Coom. Sexo. Needs bigger nipples. Coomworthy.
>>7232278You're too good to post in this /beg/ridden place. Blog?
>>7232278Got a timelapse for this one?
>>7232278pretty good but her head/face is a bit too small imo
>>7231270it looks like you're applying more pressure and also using more searching lines. The searching lines I get, but the pressur? Did you hurt your drawing hand?
>>7232278Shalom my Jewish friend
>>7232330Not him but what makes a drawing kosher and jewpilled?
any critiques or suggestions?
>>7232279Nah, its good>>7232280thx, but I have to show some restraint>>7232282I got timelapses for almost everything I do. I dont post them anymore because its kind of redundant showing always the same way of work. PM if you want it.>>7232281thx, but some anon here helped me with a redline, if you read this, thank you. @nemojona>>7232283I wanted a mommy look, giving her a bigger head ruins it.>>7232330what did he mean by this?
>>7232349Post it fucker. Seeing how superior artists build up their sketch to a complete drawing teaches me how to approach it too.
>>7231891Her breasts look made out of cardboard, the face looks like a shemale, the right arm is some eldritch shit and her right leg is starting too far from her body.2/10.
>>7231891You're doing good just fix the chicken scratching
>>7232351Does someone have some Coloso courses for download? kinda wanna do one of thoses but I wanna see if they are worth spending 200 bucks for one.
I think im gettn a hang of colour and composition.Not perfect but im quite happy bout this.I guess i needed mileage (trial error and error correctio).Im still not 100% comfy with doing digital but it is getting there.The thighs could be better (less musculature better shapes ecc), Some things are still not as clean as I would like.Any suggestions for improvement or failures on my part? / tings that could be done better or look of on first or second glanceIm still drunk on victory over my self so im quite quite smug and cannot judge clearly.>>7230890Tutorials will show you how to do a skill, but if you still need practice.Frustration and failure is a natural part of getting better. And when you stop feeling frustrated you have stagnated. For me, the feelings of frustration are washed away with satisfaction of improvementQuit or keep on trucking. That is up to you to decide
>>7232362Sounds like a scam desu and I think you are way far past those kind of courses.
>>7231759>Pawell's back and he's working trad nowBASED
"A dumbass street thug trying to rob some sort of soul-sucking spirit, gets forced to hallucinate the passing of billions of years in the form of several lifetimes full of agony and tribulations, all of this in the span of what seems to be seconds to everyone else (O'Brien style), once his mind returns he just resumes the robbery (he really needs that fent)"My romantic comedy pitch, gonna hit the big leagues yo.
What's the fastest way to get good at coloring? Not amazing, just good enough where I can color soemthing and it won't look like shit and I am able to pick my colors properly.
Filia sketch, plz give me advice, i feel like the head is too big. (dont tell me to finish the arms)
>>7232403Can confirm that face feels too long, it's the first thing you notice when you see it. Not necessarily too big, but too long for sure.
which one looks better?
>>7232410left
>>7232410Eyes feel a bit more aligned on left side, face angle on the left also follows head angle on the left unlike right side. Is this trace vs copy?
>>7232403this is what it looked like before the body, looks much better
>>7232413>Is this trace vs copy?no, both of them are mine
1/2
2/2
My first ever car drawingSmall step for a beg but big step for begdom
>>7232349no jonah i think the face still needs adjustment and the arm is way too long, neck displaced and the lighting not consistent. Most you can do rn is to tweak the face at least
If you want to DL a big course off OOC, get Video DownloadHelper and use it once you're on the page with the download button, after the 60 sec timer. This way you can start the timer on multiple videos and it won't give you the error. I learned this a long time ago but I guess some anons may want to know this, because sitting through 140kbps downloads of large video files one at a time is a pain in the ass.
How to learn drawing humans as a complete newbie beginner? All of the books are fairly hard to understand as a retard.I've done all of the looking-seeing exercises btw.
>>7232430Sup, Subu, thanks for the feedback, but I already moved on from this. If you dont mind me asking, what you usually use for brushes? its just round brush or something else?
>>7232445I'm seriously so fucking dogshit, i can't even copy what's in front of me. 9OHI8FSAUOHGIDSA'/FUCKI just want to get good at this stupid fucking bullshit so i can draw out ideas that aren't even good fucking shit
>>7232447Yeah I just use soft round pressure size and sometimes a square pressure opacity brush to mix it up occasionally. Recently ive added textured smear brushes for fancy effects but 99 percent of my blending and color is just manually picking the color and painting over very simply. I think getting a doll IRL or looking into 3d might help because you can see how light realistically lights the planes on a humanoid form and the gradient of the fall off
Fuck this i don't even know where to begin, this fucking blows.It's impossible to start off. What the fuck are you even supposed to do?
>>7232461Based.Yeah I need to study more shading on bare skin, I'm not that experienced in painting in general. Thanks for the response.
>>7232470draw something, ask yourself a question of why does it feel wrong, try to put it into words, google for answers, rinse and repeat. eventually you'll figure out some kind of a workflow, and then it's even easier to ask questions because you're confined to your little sequence of things you door read some book, but i'm not the book type of a person, so i can't help you with this one, i bet other anons can
>>7232475You bit that shit so hard I'm afraid for your teeth
>>7232417>>7232418Very nice
>>7232445maybe start with proko coursehttps://www.proko.com/course/drawing-basics/overviewi've seen people posting his stuff online so maybe you can get it for free somewhere
oink>>7232417pretty >>7232410left makes more logical sense >>7232301really cool usage of values in the hair
do any of you fine friends have any recommended resources for oil pastels?
>>7232517I once tried to look for resources but never found any useful books.I think you would go well with copying what people on YouTube do, I mean those complicated blending parts - for like portraits where the skin color is complex. Other than that just play around with them.
>>7232362I'd recommend the one by Chyan or Mongoon and they always have sales, you don't need to drop $200.
>>7232517Of the major channels, I think only Watercolor by Shibasaki is the only one that covers a lot of work with them.https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0Fumh49xzI3z7QQSebrRAT-RLNDGVd5y
coomI think I'm heading towards a path of no return>>7232362I watched mogoon, chyan and okkuthey are available on cgpeersbut I confess they didn't help muchIt's more like a class on how to enter a professional career than learning how to draw, besides the captions are horribleThe videos are separated into classes of around two hours, but obviously you can't teach much anatomy in 2 hours, for example, so it ends up being very superficialthe female instructor(okku) seemed to be better than mogoon and chyannow if they are worth 200 bucks, hell nowalso, nice work, I saw it on pixiv
>>7232555Well, that's too bad. Guess I will keep watching random artists vods on Youtube. Also nice work u2. Keep the coom coming. I will try to make it more often as well.
>>7232555>I think I'm heading towards a path of no returnbs, Manara draws raunchier stuff and still got a marvel front cover kek
>>7232403>>7232414Did a quick drawover, not perfect but maybe closer to the intended proportion. Lower head is big as you said. I think in general be mindful of heads orientation in 3d space, how the face conforms to the direction of the head, that the neck attaches in the right place under the skull. Sorry if the advice is a bit generic. I only felt the need to write something because you asked for feedback. I think the body is good.
Hello beg, it feels hopeless (permabeg).>>7232517as i see it, there are only 2 drawing methods: lines and shapes. Drawing and painting. In case of pastels i would simply pick any book about painting. I bet 90% of stuff for paint applies to pastels as well. Alla Prima>>7232445observation, perspective, figure drawing book/course of any flavor like vilppu, brigman, proko, hogarth, loomis... or even the one i am doing now>>7232420misaligned the half hidden wheel on left. this happened because you did not use construction, perspective nor sighting techniques>>7232400find existing photo / artwork, steal i mean color pick the colors. pro beg tip: picking a single pixel color can produce insane inconsistencies which look nothing like the color you want: set color picker to take an average color from 5x5 area to reduce this>>7232375i think people who praise digital or trad never tried both. it is exactly same thing, except with trad you have to first plan composition, in digital you can deal with composition last>>7232363weird value range, the outlines sometimes being there and sometimes not is confusing. the sky deserves more colors, use some ref photo of sky and steal that all>>7232345try to do final confident ink/outline. make this 80% transparent and on new layer confidently trace it>>7232278i coom>>7232262i cannot coom to this, but it is close to it>>7232248>draw woman>call it manlmao>>7232206>>7232130very nice>>7232091this looks like when your printer runs out of all colors but yellow>>7232048standard western comic shading. is nice>>7231884value range. turn your picture grayscale and wonder why it looks like it does. otherwise it has weird charm to it
>>7231799hello sir I modified ur drawing based on my own personal tastes, feel free to ignore.The only "flaw" that I could point out is that when drawing anime face from an underneath perspective, you typically don't draw the entire jawline. Everything else is just my preference.
>>7232581lmao, cool edit.
>>7232555You have a gift anon, art and beauty go hand in hand, becoming a master craftsman can be learnt. But, infusing life drive and desire just through a picture shown at the eyes of others, that's the highest form of magic and power anon. You have the power to create lust, to invoke and provoke the creation of life. You're the ultimate warlock, you do real magic. When the nukes fly up in the sky and the lights go off in this world, and the machines stop working, and the darkness falls, and the humanity scream in the black night, and rivers of salty disheartened human tears flood the barren lands, you will rise... above, on a stone wall with just a piece of charcoal, you will draw a goddess so beautiful that the savage post apocalyptic crowd will look at her enchanted, their blood will boil, absolute bliss and happiness will flood their bodies and they will start a new cycle of life creation. You yield that ancient power, since the beginning of times to this day, in your dna that ancient mystery gnosis has been kept alive. Be well anon, the humankind will need you soon.
>>7232393>No (you)sI'm not even getting the "WTF is that, stop posting pls" treatment which i was getting a few years ago, is that an improvement?
no comment
Pretty brand new to art. Have picked up drawing over and over constantly as a kid and now as an adult. Can never seem to get good at it, even when I invested hours of drawing. Fundamentals have never made any sense to me. Either way, posting my art here. I looked at many artworks in this thread but... I don't know how to critique them, really. I would just restate what others would say, so apologies for not sharing any opinions other than: "looks good!">>7232568i really want to try to do something like this... maybe it could help me? it's also sorta pretty.>>7232555the way you draw nipples makes me happy. and the face of that character is really pretty. i like it a lot.>>7232418>>7232417your 2/2 is really impressive. i like it a lot. it's super pretty.>>7232420i want to draw vehicles someday, too... that looks really cool. was this a study or like? i don't know the words for this stuff... all the guides are too confusing.>>7232410your artstyle reminds me of the artist for Full Metal Alchemist. i like right a lot more. the face feels more full... idk how to articulate it.>>7232567so pretty... i love her!! she looks so cool. your art is really pretty.>>7232363i really like how big she feels. color wise i don't know exactly how to comment on this, but i think it looks really cool.>picrelmy 40 minutes or so try over and over again to draw Paimon. i know it sucks. i just tried my best, and ultimately i have no real skill. hope if i do this stuff enough maybe i'll get better.
>>7232403this anon >>7232567 did a good job working with the given proportions. I don't know what you're going for so I referenced the character's original proportions.I like the shape the shape for the mouth and I really like the legs for some reason. The angles on those feel good to look at, it's just how the curves and negative space play there that I like. Concerning the face, what went wrong here was mostly the face shape being too long from the bottom eyelid downward. I think that arc I see in the middle was the circle you made, so I started my breakdown from there. Another thing I noticed, there was a mark by the sideburn that looked like the corner of her jaw. I'm not sure if this is where you actually wanted to place it or not, but that's how it currently appears to me. My advice would be before placing any facial feature make sure you're happy with the head shape as well as to draw slower and lighter. In regards to the breasts, leave some room to show the pecs. They lay a little lower than where you've placed them. If you take the time to improve your line confidence and slow down, you'll have a better drawing. Remember to think about what it is you're about to draw. There's some points around the hips in your drawing where it's difficult to distinguish some things. Specifically on her right-hand side.>>7231270Hopefully it was useful to everyone. Your figures are looking good, some minor proportional errors where extra time may help. your moving in a good direction. One thing I'll suggest is to think about rhythms and look for the pattern in pic rel everywhere that you can in the figure, especially the bigger masses. Also Matessi has some great things on the subject, reading and understanding what he's saying while copying/tracing some of his drawings will help the lively ness of your figures. One thing, if you're not going to do any of the former, is to think about where the figure is coming from and going to.
>>7232634I love you.
>>7232608Thanks! Once the bombs fall, the world will know a new kind of beautyI'm trying to color it right now>>7232624pretty cute
nothing to say.>>7232623
i probably won't try to finish this so im posting it here
Left arm too longRight foot/shoe smaller than left footAnything else I need to correct besides a "learn how to shade/paint"?
>>7232445Starting off with drawing people is too hard for a complete beginner. Brent Eviston is the most retard friendly art instructor I've seen. He's got a book and video course for complete beginners and a figure drawing book and course you could do after that. Check his YouTube out to see if you like his instruction. You can pirate the rest of his paid stuff. Otherwise I'd recommend the proko drawing basics course the other anon linked.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU-ii7J9ax0
>>7232568>weird value range.Could be. I will post greyscale so you can judgeOr my color choices could be off.The outline is there on all parts but the small portion right bottom ribcage. And its mostly the same size on the edges or major foldsThe abdominal outline turned out extremely similar colour to shading (on accident).
>>7232555I added some colors
>>7232741I made this other version but I'm having trouble making the cum convincing
>>7232634Thanks, senpai. Yeah, I rememeber you saying something about rhythms before, and that same kind of pattern. Also straight vs curved, I think. I'll try to consciously incorporate it into my drawings. Also, Matessi has always seemed esoteric as fuck to me, but I'll look into it.>>7232295No, I didn't hurt my drawing hand. I got a fatass pen grip though, so maybe that has something to do with it. Feels like it takes much less force than before to make a mark now.>>7232743Maybe add some highlights to the cum to make it look wet and glossy
>>7232648
>>7232568>it feels hopeless (permabeg).if you keep track of the hours you spend drawing, it can give you a better picture of how much work you've put in, and how good you "deserve" to be.I've been immersing in Japanese for a year now, and it can be demotivating to wonder why I didn't get to Khatzumoto levels of fluency in that same time period, but when I check my logs I've only been immersing for around 700 hours, when in reality it takes around 2000 hours to comfortably pass the jlpt n1, and 7000 to be truly fluent (Aussieman).I suspect learning to draw takes the same amount of time. Have you drawn for 2000 hours? 7000? This might be something that you want to start tracking soon.
i don't know how to feel the form. what should i do? when i copy drawings i only copy the contours
>>7232878get an orange and just rub it while you draw sphere, and cross contour
>>7232892will try
>>7232142Really interesting change anon, thank you. Definitely a lot visually simpler
>>7232806aradia my belovedalso, nice style, as a beginner i hope i'll be able to make this kind of stuff one day, kind of quick draw on a whim that looks good despite the fact that it wasn't based on an underlying mannequin with 150 different muscles taken into consideration
Hello beg friends, i did a repaint of something that broke me 3 months ago, any input ?
>>7232555>>7232608I hate talented faggots
>>7232975Why would someone be angry about rape?
Why did you people keep telling me to push my values? Now I’m bleeding out of my ass!
Off work already. What should i draw?Down for anything aside from cute women.
>>7232555>>7232743How long have you been drawing to reach this level?
>>7233011Big ol trailer truck or male ballerinas
>>7233011cute men
>>7232994What makes you think they’re faggots?
>>7233060They're talented, I hate them for it.
>>7233065kek, it actually looks cool in a weird way. draw an entire city of boxes in equally wobbly lines like those, remove guide lines, and it'll probably look somewhat interesting in a way
>>7233071Like gay faggot anime shit
>>7233114Anime is better than your shitty art
>>7233124
>>7233071Long legged. Tilting the chair a bit more would give you one side for the character and the other for the foot fetish
Thoughts?
>>7233158>sin titulo
>>7233158Symbol drawing max.You aren't doing construction at all, are you. or studied anatomy for that matter.
>>723315840,000 keks
>>7233158If you are trying to create a pose from imagination, but still don't have done too much anatomy yet, sketch the pose and try to find real pics to reference. You can use a 3D model too but setting them up is often a pain in the ass. Still I recommend you use reference when trying hard poses. It's also good for studying how to draw bodies better
>>7233170I studied anatomy and do construction and the end result is worse than anon's kek It's literally 100% about the confidence
>>7233170are you always supposed to use construction
>>7233166Of course that's the quickest response>>7233170I have no idea what that is>>7233178: |>>7233181Finally some criticism. I'll give it the reference a try then. I'll just need to find one I like
>>7232619Sorry for the late reply anon, but I would like to see more of your work in this style... it looks interesting
>>7232619Reminds me of the GenX-er "OK" soda that Coca Cola made. I wanna see more in this style.
>>7230779.
I feel like something is wrong with the face/head
>>7233321I feel the same. Maybe chin is a tiny little bit too long? Mouth feels like it's kinda pasted on top under ever so slightly different perspective, though as a beg hundred levels below you i'm more than willing to believe it's exactly as it should be. On the bright side, it's not jarring, only hits you once you give it a good look. cute
>>7233321the face is not aligned with the angle of the head.Its most definitely a perspective issue.
>>7232624You seem nice, I like you
>>7233197Do you do construction yes or no
>>7233022I've been making doodles since I was a kid, but I started seriously in 2019.I found this old drawing from 5 years ago
Im mentally exhausted, grabbing random references I find, trying to construct them from my mind and then deconstruct them is tiring, it took me a long while to properly(?) deconstruct the girl from higurashi.>>7233321Continue the line of the chin and then connect to the ear, how does that look to the overall form of the head?
>>7233362I don't know what that means
>>7233400are you being dense on purpose or do you really not know what construction is? Do you what is displayed in the picture? Do you draw a base skeleton and then build the figure on top?
>>7233401I literally don't know what construction means.Now you say it's drawing a skeleton doing the reference pose, right?
>>7233407Whatever, I tried to help. You are just being dense on purpose or too dumb to read.
>>7233414>You are just being dense on purposeIn today's news, it takes anon more than 3 posts to realize he's being baited, more at 11.
>>7233418Said "baiter" here, I actually didn't know what construction meant until minutes ago. Have you guys never talked to slow people?
Passing it off as an epic bait, yeah. okay.
>>7233380A talented worm, as I thought, damn
>>7233458I want to fuck the blue girl from Kunshikter.
>>7232248decided to clean it up a bit
>>7233321the head is too elongated, also don't be afraid to place the eye line below half the head, all anime girls are 5head
>>7233492yeah this fucking makes sense
>>7232079
>>7233269
>>7233490This is really good. I'm sure you've been asked before but what's the best thing that's helped you to learn how to render? I've been on and off with some of the fundamentals and could never really paint a figure well enough.
here is your drawing. fuck everything
>>7233543FUCK thats deep bro....
>>7233546I don't care, Im not trying. More hope, more effort, higher aim = bigger disappointment, more humiliation and shame and abandonment.
>>7233543Allah akbar, my brother
>>7233562You know non artists standards are practically -0, you can be a great artist to a high portion of the people with the right attitude and publicity.You have to believe in your own shit.
>>7233562This anon has learned the truth, the deeper you go, the more painful the feeling of insignificance and the inability to move on
i just draw for my own enjoyment regardless of what other people think and regardless of my technical skill. feels good
>>7233537Uhh I don't think I'm particularly good at renderingThe thing that helped me quite a lot is actually a soft brush cut in half so that it's soft on one side and hard on other. It gives you a lot better control on hard and soft edges. Just running it on the edge of the character skin gives it a more 3d look.Other artist usually use laso tool but that brush allows me to skip a lot of that
>>7233567kek i thought it looked like arab calligraphy too. im convinced it still could be...
>>7233578>soft brush cut in halfI didn't know you could do that. Also I wouldn't beat yourself up, the face is very appealing.
>>7232977shadows should be harsher and your expression looks like disgust + eyes are looking at the viewer's dick.
>>7233492>>7233494oh yeah this is becoming much better
Bros I got addicted to a certain game again and didn't draw for 2 months...now I'm scared to draw again because what if it looks like when I started and I want to kms?
>>7232739looks like she has a bulge
>>7232568you are a permabeg because you keep studying worthless books you fucking retard, just copy what you want to draw and then draw from memory again it's that easy my god you fucking 4chan autists over complicate and overthink everything, and in art and creativity this is exactly the thing you're NOT supposed to do
>>7233622He does draw from memory, notice how it's color coded and there's multiple copies of the same drawing spread throughout.
>>7233640But he does it with worthless shit. He should do it in the style he wants to draw in. Not some mannequins and boomers skulls.
>>7233618What was the game?
>>7231100>tags: puffy_mons>enter
>>7231125Yes I also can shit out ai garbage and touch it up with some brushes.
>>7233809retard
Beg. The butterflies are preprinted in the paper>>7233458soul>>7232977you gave up on the haircut>>7232739here it looks okay. i am yet to read a single book about colors, but now seeing this i think you just chose a very weird color combination>>7233622>just draw>noooo, not like thati legit think i am getting closer and closer to figgie skill with each of this session, but that doesnt remove the "brain resistance" i feel every single time i have to learn new thing.
>>7233860please draw a big tiddy anime girl
>>7233625i love this so much xd
Kind of tired today so I will leave it at that and go to sleep now. I need to fix my longface problem.
Sometimes I forget how much fun it can be to draw when you can get something along.I just wish I had more time for drawing as my desire to cripple neets with supporting parents grows every day.
I kicked the thread with a crab foot to switch to a new one
>>7233860I think i see the issue with the musclemommy supa heroin (addict) i drew.The skin shadows are almost as bright / brighter then ( can't check that at this moment to be sure but kindaseems dat way) the portion of the suit that is in light. Which is a bit of a problem.
Modern white "men" really do be dressing and acting like this, fr fr.
arms are disgusting
>>7232878How can I get out of habit of contour drawing? No matter how i try i eventually return to drawing only the outlines. Is there any way to be able to see the 3d forms, not only lines? Especially when I see refs I get contours. I still don't get it.
>>7234176Maybe try painting thingy instead of drawing? I mean, you're drawing lines, so your logic is revolving around edges. Try using a huge brush and painting layer of color over other layer of color, don't bother with lines at all and try to make sense out of it purely with color changes, I only tried it couple times as a beg but it really changes the way you look at things.
>>7234177thanks!
>>7234176Draw through shapes. Your boxes and cylinders should have thinner lines inside the shape that shows the planes not in view. Once you're done, check that lines going in the same direction away from the viewer properly converge towards the same vanishing point. You should also practice line confidence: for example if you're drawing a straight line, first decide point A and point B, then draw the line in one clean stroke, instead of slowly wobbling. tl;dr Do the whole drawabox.com rigamaroo. Shit's boring as fuck but it forces you to think in three dimensions and also teaches line quality.
>>7234192thanks. i tried drawabox and wasn't able to get off this habit sadly.
Where's the new thread?
>>7234216not yet. wish he uploads dsg
Anything to fix here?I'm going for the Big Dick Energy stare.
I want to get a new tablet because my old Deco 03 is falling apart.Wacom or XPPen?
>>7234296If you're gonna spend the same amount of money either way, then just get the Wacom
There won’t be a new thread.
>>7234296wacom has better, resell value if you want to upgade later, also check fb marketplace first, I got my cintiq 16 for 150$ there.
>>7234296for these prices might as well look at normal laptops, lmao.screenless chads wins again!>>7234345>>7234345>>7234345new slop>>7234345>>7234345
>>7234359>>7234359>>7234359
>>7234331But the XPPen has more resolution and I have seen better reviews for it. Cintiq is Cintiq but it is also a far older model.>>7234331I live in a dogshit industrial town. Marketplace is filled with stolen electronics>>7234347I work with computers. I have a beefy desktop and a surplus of desktops and laptops
>>7233361thank you friend
