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If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
mangapose.com
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

>Cool teachers
Glenn Vilppu
Michael Hampton
Steve Huston
Brent Eviston
Marco Bucci
Andrew Loomis
George Bridgman
Hikaru Hayashi

>Cool books
Keys To Drawing
Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain
How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way
The Art and Science of Drawing
Framed Perspective
Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
The Complete Guide to Drawing From Life

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>>7287335
pyw retard
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>>7287358
Hot and nice figure
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elf girl
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reposting because that is what i do. I don't see many artists who draw christian themes so I'll become one
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>>7287374
her legs ams too lidl
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Worked on this a little more today
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Would it be weird if I made a redline thread but didn't do any redlines? Might attract more eyes than just the intbeg thread, but I'm not at the level I can do redlines myself
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>>7287411
redlines are useless
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>>7287412
Why? If you're not using a ref maybe, but if you are a redline would help the artist figure out what's wrong with their drawing vs the ref
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>>7287387
how does this look now, anon?
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wew
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>>7287358
All right, talented rat, you're in luck
.>>7287374
The Untalented worm
>>7287466
You've been painting this same type of shit with an ugly stump for months, you don't get out of the swamp and you can't get to the cheese, but you're better than me anyway, but still, it seems the darkness of determinism has come to you
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>>7287490
yeah i know, i don't like any piece i make, just another girl in 3/4 in the void. i don't have any ideas anymore, because i know i can't make them to real life, no motivation to learn shit at all

desu i don't have passion to draw anymore, i draw just out of habit (and because i like these threads and want to post sometimes)
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wait, desu
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>>7287495
You wrote the most depressing post on the board. It became unpleasant and somehow uncomfortable for me, forgive and forget what I told you and please continue to draw and develop, create something new
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>>7287495
you can practice and draw your girls too. draw some boxes in perspective then draw the girls on top. or do some figure drawing and draw an anime head on top
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Drawing in bed is comfy as hell
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>>7287495
Idk have you ever considered you're more of a painter? Your lineart reminds me a lot of my own. My painting and rendering easily surpassed my draftsmanship. It just made sense, it's only now that I'm starting to go back to draftsmanship because it feels like the quality of my art isn't improve unless I start refining those drafting fundies.
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>>7287495
I like your art anon.
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>>7287587
Well, my testacles feel dry right now if that's what you're getting at.
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Hey intermediate artists, when studying anatomy, which is more effective to start with : is it to learn the simple forms of the muscles and how they wedge together, or to learn the names of each individual muscle and their origins and insertions and work on doing academic type stuff of ecorches. My goal is to get my art at a really advanced level with a great level of detail, being able to draw bodies from any angle and position. Thx.
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I don't fucking understand the deltoid man what the fuck is this muscle
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>>7287379
neat character and icons, i'm also trying to improve in order to create more religiously fulfilling art too
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>>7287335
Nobody can explain why my art is dogshit so I'll just do it myself
>its scribbly
>its low effort
>its made with a pen
>its on a sketchbook
>its not digital
>it has no colors
>the character is unappealing
>it cannot be sold
>it does not have diversity equity or inclusion
>it cannot make art connections
>it cannot be used as game concept art, because it is not colored or digital
>its soulless
>it was made by a right wing chud
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>>7287593
star with simple forms
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>>7287593
Ideally you want to somewhat do them at the same time. Probably better to start with insertions first, since the body becomes like a game of “connect the dots” as you learn them and muscle placements become a lot more natural and easier to remember. It’s good to pull up a muscle diagram while doing figure drawings, it’s a really effective way to learn the names of them. I think the drawing of the forms will come as you draw the muscles themselves, but that’s just fundamental knowledge that you can apply as you study the muscle shapes. Most importantly is to have a strong establishment of the skeletal structure underneath the body like pic rel from will Weston
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>>7287622
I know some of you might be saying "BUT ITS FINE!" But your a true chud who doesnt know quality. Anyone worth their shit and has good art absolutely despises this art. There are People with art jobs and established projects or presence who like my art but its not enough because theyre simply not good enough for the art community. They need to hate it in order to succeed so they tell me this because their weakened hearts still want them to be chuddy, rustic, and Afghan and let unrefined garbage proliferate.
Those who like my art dont see art for what it is.
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>>7287625
Thanks a lot! This makes so much more sense now.
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i'm going to go back to ghosting lines and drawing shapes.
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>>7287596
find the clavicle first so you know where they begin, then tie to the arm
athletes like gymnasts are good to check exaggerated muscles
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Thanks to the advice of >>7285160 I ended up actually finishing this one, I feel like the skin colouring is a bit off and as usual the proportions and anatomy are FUCKED (lower legs and feet) but i'm happy with it.
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>>7287683(me)
forgot to mention i've been posting to many mob-face women in the void so next time i'll make something more dynamic with an actual background too
>>7287627
I didn't read your rant anon sorry, but your dragon looks nice keep it up
>>7287404
Looks amazing
>>7287384
if the leg is supposed to be folded try and add a little line dividing the thigh and calf that are facing eachother, or atleast shade it in a way that makes it look seperate because it looks like 1 big wedge
>>7287379
looks like lemongrab
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Miku the redeemer
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I see people sharing their socials on the social thread, is that really such a good idea? You guys won't make fun of my begness art will you?
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>>7287718
Nah well maybe if you end up regressing. Damn those threads are sad.
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I CAN'T shade
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>>7287717
i like your art style a lot, work on your fundies and i think you could get popular. and make her torso more obvious, right now it looks like her boobs are connected to her arms.
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>>7287404
Nice stuff anon. I like the colors
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The first drawing that I have ever shown to a person that knows me IRL.
Dwarf npc for tabletop.
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I haven't posted here in months. Can someone tell me why it still looks 2d and it kind of looks off?
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>>7287335
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hoping i can reach int by december
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>>7287753
this is not how a horizon or clouds over the ocean work
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>>7287766
how does it work
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>>7287335
our ops keep getting worse and worse
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Do you nigs have an alternative to sketchdaily? Their imagebank of heads is only 300 or so and I've run out. Their selection also sucks its mostly just front view front facing photos
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>>7287781
i've given up on sketchdaily. i think it's best to hunt around for image packs (just lurk here and beg and download what seems interesting, it's what i do) and use the quickposes app on your pc
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can anyone try to sketch this fucking gook? I've tried 10 times and it looks like shit, I don't want a redline I want to see someone's own attempt, please and thanks, all skill levels welcome
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>>7287490
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>>7287812
Fingerless gloves?
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ok
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>>7287753
add some depth to it make some cloulds closer or using the the water to blend with the colors, i suggest those old arcade games where you fly a plane as a good reference. By far my fav outta all of these

>>7287627
can you just be happy with what you make, if you wanna make something with quality then make it with quality, if you wanna sketch for fun then sketch for fun. Seriously thats a problem you yourself have to answer rather than seeking approval from your missing father
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>>7287833
>>7287833
dudes in his main character syndrome, its just a drawing nothing more. If he cant handle compliments imagine how he handles crit
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>>7287629
dont drop you getting there, your telling the story of whats being expressed heres a video that helped me improve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNmA8AKbGUg&pp=ygUVZm9yY2UgZ2VzdHVyZSBkcmF3aW5n
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>>7287826
>>7287842

you mean this one?
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drawing both feet and hand digits is so friggin poopy shid
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>>7287840
this isn't a sketch this is some kind of painting shit
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>>7287848
what is a sketch, anyway,. is it the friends we madee along the way, idk personally, we may never knwo wy
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>>7287840
>assignment was to do a sketch
>does a paintover
Congratulations, you failed the class.
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>>7287852
i think its almost time for your call center shift saar
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sketch
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>>7287853
Dunning Kruger
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:)
Colors not showing up much with these pastel pencils
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>>7287854
watch yo mouth when you speak wit yo mother you silly little goofball you
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I think Raita is getting hardcoded into my mind. How does it look? Redlines welcome
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need to work on proportions again still i love it
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>>7287861
very nice, now draw her giving birth
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>>7287860
Off you go pajeet, those rupees wont earn themselves
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>>7287865
what's a pajeet baby boy
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>>7287837
yeah you can see me kinda realize that, i couldn't figure out how to actually do/show it though. do you think you could red-line or tell me? or is it just a "go do perspective and draw boxes for 30 mins" thing
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>>7287867
nta why do u talk like a fag
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been a long time since ive drawn anything
please don't be mean to me.
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>>7287876
its awful baby boy
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>>7287876
*breaths in*
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>>7287809
Gave myself 5 minutes, this is as far as I got. I don't I got his face a little too long, face angle's not quite right, he looks "prettier" in the photo I think largely cause of his eyes (he looks to be wearing makeup.
Dunno if this is helpful.
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>>7287881
fr fr ong no cap holy sh
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>>7287878
thanks bro, but her left leg arms slightly off and foot on the right side. its a little off but one quote i heard, not accurate "if you draw the hands feet and face well enough they just might forgive you"
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>>7287882
Looks a bit racist imo
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>>7287882
if you're gonna do it with a timer, do it with a big brush and start blocking in the values of the reference, i recommend setting it to black and white

something like this, this approach is easier, then you try doing lineart later when you get familiarized with the face overall structure through values
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>>7287890
also, these studies aren't supposed to be timed, portrait is very complex and needs time to analyze a lot of shits, so it's better to take your time while doing it

i finished one rendering and it took me two days, but my brain expanded 100% 'cuz i analyzed every decision that i made
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>>7287888
lol how so?
>>7287890
I did it with a pencil. I wanted to show lines that indicate what I was thinking and how I was conceiving of the shapes rather than concentrating solely on value. I'm familiar with facial structure.
>>7287893
This wasn't really even a study for me, I was doing it because the person requesting it wanted it a sketch that showed how they do it. I gave myself five minutes because I have other shit to do.
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>>7287899
holy shit i take everything back
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>>7287809
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>>7287907
lol this is definitely more racist than mine, I like it, though
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>>7287907
VERY GOOD HOLY MOLEY
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>>7287907
so this is the power of a draftsman who can paint...
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>>7287920
>>7287923
I was actually about to do as you asked but then stopped because you're being annoying.
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>>7287927
Not "good job," why don't you stop being annoying for a change? Step away from the board for awhile.
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>>7287918
>>7287920
>>7287927
kek absolutely seething
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>>7287933
You should continue not using this board permanently. You would have got what you asked for if you weren't sperging out and spamming. Stop being an obnoxious nigger and people will be more inclined to do as you ask, it's really that simple.
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i don't even know who's posting
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>>7287944
I'm NTA, they probably didn't reply because they haven't even looked at the thread and likely never will. It was a drive by comment. I was going to offer some advice on what they likely meant, but I'm not now because you're an annoying faggot. If this is a "dead nigger board" it is 100% because of autistic faggots like you.
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>even on /ic/, Indians can't avoid taking strays
damn
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Wlop study.
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Holy fucking shit way to go faggots you derailed the thread when it was starting to get good. Shitty fucking board.
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>>7287979
thank you fren
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Somebody please thread this.
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>>7288013
are u autistic per chance?
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Chat, is this anon okay?
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>go to the store
>bang gf
>come back hours later to 500 replies
holy moly goofball how can i help you? i have 5 mins i cant read all that
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>>7288016
I redlined this post
hope this helps
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>>7288027
thats really rude baby boy, i only have 1 minute now so hurry up
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alrighty well i tried friendo but i dunno waht yo u want

i probs wont be on til next week so hope u figure it out by than! cheers!
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hour-ish long portraits from the month
gonna try to do one everyday
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>>7288037
https://youtu.be/aqwgHml1TQE?t=228
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what the hell dude
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>>7288059
Not too bad, anon. Keep up the good work!
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I'm new to these threads, Who's the local schizo here?
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>>7288097
Howie. He have different personas though. Genetic Theorist Howie, Nihilistic Howie, Suicidal Howie, Angry Howie, etc.
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sorry if im being a howie but WHAT do i actually draw?
ive been drawing for around 2 weeks mostly copying whatever anime or comic art i feel like. The issue is i dont feel like im improving, instead of learning to draw im just learning an autistic process for a really small niche of art. I can post my art if needed
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>>7288104
get a workbook or follow a course
keys to drawing
right side of the brain workbook
art and science of drawing

you can't go wrong
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>>7288106
>keys to drawing
im trying to work through this right now actually. Is it normal for my first few drawings to be grade schooler tier
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>>7288109
Hows a retard like yourself manages to be here without being able to read
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>>7288109
if you're an absolute beginner its normal for all of your drawings to look grade school tier

do the exercises again if you feel like you can do them better
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mods deleted all of schizoandy's posts :[
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>stop spamming
>thread dies
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>>7288104
Pyw nigga
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>>7287335
Fuck my autistic nigger NGMI life.
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>>7288130
>oh my god no posts for 10 minutes
THE THREAD IS DEAD
MILLIONS MUST CREATE NEW THREADS

go pick up your adderall subscription.
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>>7287717
T-rex arms
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So I got a drawing tablet on the 15th from mumsy for my 22nd birthday and I started drawing. And I'm doing that art school program by that Marc Brunet guy. Is it just over for me? These are from tonight. I'm still on "term one" and I struggle with that gesture stuff so I just skip it.

https://files.catbox.moe/5vblms.png
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>>7288171
nah you're fine, gesture is infuriatingly nebulous and individual to each person, it's something you'll develop a method and feel for as you do more figure drawings so don't lose sleep over it
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>>7288179
Thanks, gesture is just tricky. Right now I just been drawing by roughly measuring by heads and checking negative space some. It's probably not ideal though, since I'm pretty much just badly copying what I see.
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>>7287809
>>7287907
Bite your tongue, white offspring of a rubbish dog
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>>7287335
Calling this done for tonight. Hopefully finish it off tomorrow with fresh eyes.

Any tutorials or recs on how to make the plush bits more plush? Anything look seriously wrong or off putting? Even if I can't fix it in this it'll be nice to know what to look out for in the future.
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>>7288220
>>7287335
Fuck, forgot image.
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>>7288104
PYW and something you would like to learn how to draw. The general idea is that you should try to figure out what you enjoy and what you would like to make. Afterwards you would study and practice all the separate parts in between attempting to realize the final goal.
For instance, if I like to paint cute girls, nature, architecture and macabre scenes, all of these will use perspective, construction and composition. Being able to draw any necessary pose requires that you know how to construct "a body". Drawing a cute girl requires that you know how to adjust the form to be more feminine, sexier, which parts to exaggerate. Drawing plants and scenes can be just training your visual library. Architecture - perspective, proportions and boxes upon boxes. Any complex scene would require me to learn to trial ideas.
Not to mention, the painting itself. Proper values, using colors, how to represent various materials and lighting, giving it some pizazz.
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>>7288104
>a howie
kek i like this word
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>>7287358
Dont post furry here pls, there is a dedicated thead for that sir
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>>7287937
>>7287937
>>7287939
what happened?
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>>7287937
mfw
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>>7288171
>I struggle with that gesture stuff so I just skip it
Well you obviously shouldn't, your figures are very stiff. Especially the second one, just compare it to the reference. Your dude looks like he is just standing there awkwardly. I'd recommend watching/reading several takes on gesture, try Loomis, Hampton, Proko, Brent Eviston, someone's approach will click for you
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when i draw something right it feels like the greatest thing on earth but that’s like 5% of the time. the other 95% is trying to reach that high again. is this just what art is?
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>>7288130
>What are time zones?
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>>7288130
How fucking new are you
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Third day.
Drawing is much easier when you aren't trying to strangle the pen.
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>>7288153
This sketch is exactly why drawing anime/manga is a hindrance to actually learning how to draw. You use the Loomis method to draw the head, understanding its shape as it exists in 3D space.. You draw the figure, hand, very nice. You show that you're learning.
Then we get to the face. The eyes? Nose? Mouth? You didn't draw them according to anything. You simply drew the iconography of those things as you've seen them in anime. You guessed where they would go based on the guidelines of the face, but you didn't actually conceptualize their shape. This is specifically what anime/manga style teaches you to do.
This isn't a criticism of you, anon, it looks like you're well on your way. I'm not saying this to shit on you, or on anime. It isn't because I find anime aesthetically pleasing; some actually is, in fact. I'm saying this because these sketches make it look like your ability to draw is actively being stunted by it. It's a style that evolved from shortcuts. If you want to learn to draw, and it looks like you do, step away from the shortcuts.
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>>7288281
>guideless face
I guess sudoku isn't the right solution to fix the issue. What you recommend?
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>>7287809
These were my attempts. Bear with me, first drawings I've done today and I'm tired as fuck. Left was my initial attempt, second was me attempting to make some adjustments, because the angle of the face and head tilt on it was incorrect.

What might be fucking with you is the small tilt up and to the side he's making with his head. Drawing those can be more difficult since we aren't exposed to them as often.
I would say my right attempt also has problems, but oh well.
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>>7288283
You're doing well, anon, don't beat yourself up. I would recommend actually studying the shapes of the face, because this is what anime avoids. You can see how the figure drawing and the method you're using to draw the hand actually shows how those shapes are "built" in 3D space, right? You have an idea bout perspective, you can break it into little boxes and spheres, then connect them together and "sculpt" them into the actual drawing, and when you do, you show you have an understanding of what you're looking at. Not just icons or depictions of it like a stick man, you're not drawing a representation of a hand, you're drawing all the shapes and planes and curves of the hand, with how the light bounces off of it into your eye.
Do the same with the face. Break down the nose, mouth, eyes. The shape of the skull underneath affects each of these things. The jaw and chin have shapes just like the other things you drew. It might be uncomfortable at first, you might be trained to just see the anime eyes and nose and mouth and think "good enough," but if you really want to learn how to draw, it's not. You need to think about the actual shapes that make these things up. You can do it, anon!
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>>7288294
>>7288300
Here's a good video showing what I'm talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J7RQvKnWf4
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>>7288303
>>7288305
>>7288306
>>7288307

>Asks why the board is slow when it's the middle of the night in NA.
>Samefags.
>All lowercase no punctuation.

You are new. Or just retarded but it's all the same.
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>>7288283
>>7288300
>>7288302
This is another good one because it explains a little bit about getting out reliance on the method itself, or at least understanding what the methods do and why they may or may not work for you.
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>>7287881
still
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>>7288320
Whoops, forgot to link the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoYl6sFd0Qc
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>>7287848
>this isn't a sketch
You should learn what a sketch is.
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>he doesn't know
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>>7288335
Jesus Christ, you autistic shit. Stop spamming.
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What the fuck is with this sudden wave of posts
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Draw A Cutie - vintage edition
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>>7288347
>>7288349
>>7288343
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>>7288337
report this spamming nigger
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>>7288346
Saved for tomorrows daily. Quite the looker.

>>7288345
Autists without a job, capacity to draw or even a functioning brain have a lot of free time to get upset about dumb shit. This time one retard got upset about a bit of shit talking.
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>>7288350
Spam aside he is right, pyw
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>>7288346
Yeah this is a good reference. I think I'll do the same.
>>7288353
The jannies need to do their fucking job, I must have reported like 30 of this retard's posts in the last hour.
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>The poster is underage.
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>>7287760
slow down and keep in mind the cubes you’re actually drawing anon, it doesn’t seem like you obeyed your own perspective. if the hip is tilted that far forward the legs should be viewed from above, not the front. ygmi
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The fucks happening in this thread
I hope you anons are drawing
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>>7288388
Jannies probably IP wiped you, now stop throwing a melty. We all get crabbed anon, take it like a man.
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>>7288380
>>7288391
Stop replying to this mentally derange literal retard, seriously. You don't see it but he's had like 100 posts removed from this thread alone. He isn't gonna stop, you can't talk him out of it, just report and ignore.
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>>7288393
yes you can talk me out of it
all I ask for is a redline
I dont understand what is so hard about such a simple request
just a few boxes
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how did i do anons? am i still /beg/? blue lines are welcome
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>>7288405
can't see well but the left elbow seems lower in relation to the right
shoulders seem off but can't pinpoint
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>>7288407
>the left elbow seems lower in relation to the right
oh shit i didnt even notice that
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>>7288405
i think this is /int/ but i’m just one guy idk
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>>7288171
Nice stuff anon, you already have the appeal element in your artistic dna. Beautiful faces. Stay course and you will make it.
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Well, through one retard's persistence, and more to the point, the total incompetence of the jannies, another thread has been completely ruined, driving away many who would post on this board yet again. Great job, faggots.
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>>7288436
100% his shitty drawing was blasted by some crab and he's having an actual temper tantrum.
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>>7288444
Not a temper tantrum, this has been going on over 24 hours. This is an actually mentally disturbed person.
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we should start hazing /beg/s to make sure they have the mental fortitude to not do what this anon does when they get crabbed
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>>7288405
>am i still /beg/
Stop caring about that shit. We're all /beg/ until you get payed for it. Just focus on getting better.

CBA blue-lining, sorry anon. If you're showing the character from the bottom, you need to add some indication of the space between the chin and neck. Her shoulders are up, but she doesn't seem to have any trapezius at all. Difference in arm length is probably due to the shield hiding the right arm and you winging it, but it still looks like a mistake since her right elbow is way too far below in your linework. Left titty needs more curvature. It's spiked, but that could only happen if her nipple is on that spot. Her right leg, her hip can be wider if her ass is turned to the left of the observer, however, the way you drew it makes it look like her leg starts way further from the side of the hip than her other leg. You need to move the inner thighs line more to the right since that leg would be more over her center line than the left.
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>gets crabbed once for a shitty redline
>100+ posts of unemployed ego raped mentalist spam ruining the thread
no wonder begs with potential/work ethic and ints quit coming here
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>>7287747
What did they say
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>>7288466
>Actual incomprehensible babble
Fuck me this is sad
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Can someone explain this to me?
>dream
>imagine myself drawing something for aliens (I'm their slave)
>draw the most beautiful watercolor painting of mountains and a lake
>draw the most beautiful hatched inked figure of a girl sitting in an kind of abstract picasso way but with more realistic facial features

>be me awake
>draw like shit

how is it that our brain is capable to conjure something up while we sleep but when were awake it's 10000% harder?
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HES NOT GONNA POST IT ANON YOUVE BEEN CRABBED, HE WANTS YOU TO FEEL LIKE SHIT AND HAVE A NEGATIVE REACTION. MAN UP AND IGNORE HIM ANON ITS HOW YOU IMPROVE ITS HOW YOU GROOWWWWWWWW!
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>>7288477
There is an amazing artist hiding in all of us.
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>>7288477
It's because you can observe and imagine, but not actually conceptualize the shapes in a way that allows you to render them onto a 2D plane. That is an entirely separate skill. You need to see the shapes that make those things in your imagination, train yourself how to put them onto a page so they actually do what you intend, then finally build the image yourself.
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>>7288477
i had a similar scenario but it was /lit/ shit instead. had a dream i read a poem, shit was so fucking vivid, it was the most beautiful poem i ever read i was straight up sobbing in the dream. woke up and i actually was crying and i could recall some lines of the poem but not all of it. like, is my entire life dedicated towards chasing that level of emotion again? fuck everything.
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I think the jannies arrived.
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Why can't we go one thread without a retard having a complete mental breakdown
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whatever they deleted his reply
red line this
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>>7288346
Okay, you can have a cutie today
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>>7288511
I haven't posted a cutie in weeks!
Great job as always, anon.
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>>7288505
I am still waiting
I thought this was the art work and critique board not the dead nigger 10 pph board
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>>7288505
wow you should probably at least learn the fundamentals before you even try doing redlines
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>>7288477
>>7288491
When I was a kid I also dreamed about being a freaking footbal superstar. I flew over the field avoiding everyone and throw the ball million yards with perfect accuracy. Then in reality, I could never get the ball LOL!
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>>7288505
bumping
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someone cook a new thread, this is awful
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>>7288532
This is not mine
if it was it wouldn't be in this thread since they wiped out all my early replies
>>7287629
shitty larp and not being helpful btw
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>>7288537
I know, this one is at least better than the original one with actual red lines, that was embarrassing
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>>7288541
youre trying way too hard
>>7288505
some one redline this how fucking hard could it be
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>>7288546
trying too hard to what? maybe you should try a little harder
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I've no idea how people ever get fast with their linework et al. I think I need to really reduce the scope of my dailies if I want to get them done in 1 hour max. Might be pointless to even study anything that doesn't take me 3+ hours.
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>>7288477
Unfortunately it's your brain tricking you into thinking it was good.
But fortunately if you dream about drawing, painting, writing - then it's your brain making new neuro connections. You're literally leveling up.
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>>7288505
do this
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>>7288505
This would be so kino some one do this
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how many hours to get this good?
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>>7288551
>>7288548
>>7288546
>>7288534
not the same fag who got banned and is ban evading btw
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>>7288553
1589 hours of conscious and goal oriented practice
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>>7288554
I didn't get banned
they removed the reply I was spamming and didn't ban me so I am nta
>>7288505
do this please
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>>7288505
>>7288523
I love Charlotte!
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>>7288562
thank you
this is satisfactory
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>>7288554
Yes you are you fucking faggot lmao
You are unhinged
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>>7288570
he isnt me
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>>7288576
Nah that's you
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>>7288562
thank u mr bones
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>>7288576
Yes, we know you are ban evading and either using another device or inspecting source. You actually have serious mental problems and should be in a hospital, not left to yourself to access the internet.
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>>7288582
I am not ban evading
like I said the guy I was spamming about got his post removed and all my replies to it but I did not get banned because I was in the right
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>>7288214
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>>7288553
do bargue
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>>7287879
What's awful about it

You know like-uh the dragon Ball-uh?
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>>7288639
Find a more organized and concrete means of breaking the body down. You’ve established major masses well but in a sloppy and disorganized way
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>>7288647
how do I make it more organized?
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>>7288549
I have been focusing on general shapes and flow.
Reducing detail helps
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Hey /ic/, I've started practicing again, I'd appreciate any criticism you could give me of this dog in a coat before continuing. I'm going to redraw it so maybe you can help me avoid some pitfalls. It's done with pencils, 2h, hb, 2b and 4b.

I've developed a bit of a tremor in my hands throught the years so some of the messiness is from that, not much to do about it, I'll start drawing bigger.
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>>7288665

No clue why it uploaded sideways, let's try again.
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>>7287829
But sketching for fun isnt considered an art form, it is considered autism and therefore bad. Its a bad thing, and I cant make anything with quality because that means I have to adopt another persons style and copy them (because if I spend more time on a sketch it is still a sketch with a bad style), which is not what I want. Its a cruel limbo
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>>7287697
If you havent drawn more detailed faces you should consider it as well, it is a useful skill
Even anime faces can have a lot of nuances and detail if you look closely
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>>7288669
Hey, anon. This isn't the worst or anything, I mean I can tell it's a dog in a coat. Good job on the paws, and the pose of the dog isn't too bad. There are some shapes I can't really make sense of: the top part of what I'm guessing is the coat isn't immediately clear.

Overall it looks a bit flat, in particular the dog's face, likely because there's something missing in the perspective. Did you sketch the shapes first before you started drawing, or just go straight for the reference? What you drew looks close to a reference if it were roughly lined up, but it doesn't seem like there's a fundamental understanding in what's actually going on as far as forms go.
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>>7288673
Sketching for fun IS art. Art is about unlocking that part of your brain that allows you to translate your visual thoughts into something (on a page, for instance). If you mean HIGH ART, you are so far from that it doesn't matter. Looking at art as a kind of lofty goal, where you're worrying about shit like copying people's style, what's a "bad style" etc., shouldn't even be a thought in your head, and is likely what's stopping you. You don't even really have a style (yet). You are still in the beginning stages of discovery and conceptualization.
Stop worrying about the end product. Find something you enjoy drawing and just draw it. Focus on what your drawings are lacking. You should be able to look at them and tell the more you do it.
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>>7288549
How long did this take you, anon?
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>>7288688
I traced it in about 5 minutes
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>>7287587
thank you

take the smol teto

>>7287575
i'm much worse at painting than drawing, but maybe i should do something more sketchy and put more color work
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>>7288669
Try to break the reference down into basic shapes and forms, this is very flat as of now. Reference?
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>>7288689
Okay, that's about what I'd have guessed before I saw your comment about taking so long to do dailies. Tracing is fine and it looks like you have the shapes down okay, but you might want to sketch a bit indicating you understand what's going on underneath, like what shapes are involved behind those lines you're tracing. I think you'd get a lot more out of it if you did that.
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>>7288693
Just so you know you won't make me draw whatever the fuck you want me to draw. There's nothing wrong with the reference.
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>>7288700
lol anon I think they just wanted to see the reference you worked from to see if they could help you.
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>>7288700
What the fuck?
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>>7288679

Hey, thanks for the reply. I feel the same way, like it's flat and not unified or defined.

Do you mean draw some basic volumes before going on with the detail? I didn't do that, rather skecthed from the reference going from freeform general shapes to more detail, but yes I never felt like I was quite "getting it", I thought it would pop up while shading. I'll redo the sketch and work on that.
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>>7288693

Hi, that previous guy wasn't me, just some troll. You're right it's kinda flat, here's the reference picture.
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>>7288701
>>7288702

Dig anon here, that reply wasn't me. They're either confused or a troll.
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>>7288722
Haha okay, no problem. This board/thread has been getting hammered by trolls lately, we'll just ignore them.
Can you try doing a redline trace over the reference photo of the dog? It might help you be able to think of the shapes, particularly in the dog's face. I can see rectangles, rounded cubes, orbitals of where the dog's eyes are, etc., can you?
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>>7288722
Yeah, no problem. I should have assumed that.
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>>7288722
I think you're the one confused here, but it's okay no hard feelings.
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>>7288649
At first it might sound silly but do boxes
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>>7288467
Said I put a lot of effort into an npc, considering I didn't even finish my actual player character at that time.
Because drawing girls is more fun.
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>>7288727
nO eVeRyBoDy TelLiNg Me To DrAw BoXeS iS wRoNg
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Does it looks like he got hit by the knee or are they both doing random poses unrelated to eachother?
>>7288639
>>7288684
is this the same anon? if so it's way more clear now
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>>7287717
LMFAO THOSE ARMS
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>>7288688
It took me 45 minutes. No idea what that other anon is on about.
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>>7288731
I find it fun because I don't have to face how garbage I'm at finishing drawings
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>>7288521
Inked,
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>>7288688
Yeah, it's that same unhinged retard trying to be funny, he's done it several times now.
Anyway, 45 minutes seems like quite a long time. Why do you feel like it takes you so long? Are you able to do a time lapse? What I said before about finding in the drawing still stands. You might want to focus more on that specifically than trying to get the end result to look "good" or accurate to the reference. You can work that out later if you need to. If you're looking for exercises (and I assume you enjoy drawing beautiful naked women) you'll probably get the most out of it by doing shape-based form sketches. Try to see if you can do that same one in 15 minutes, drawing 3D shapes for each part of the figure.
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Still plugging away, fun seeing the progress, even compared to a month ago. Beginner gains are fun
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>>7288751
Who mangled her face?
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>>7288688
I outsourced the work to Africa. It took 5 minutes
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I tried drawing in a small pocket sketchbook and it's crazy how much easier, faster and less stressful it is.
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Quick「S T Y L I S H」study
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>>7288779
forgot to attach image (ó﹏ò。)
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>>7288763
Don’t know what you mean.
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>>7288779
>>7288785
OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS
onto next drawing
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>>7288227
not a furfag but that design is cute as fuck, it yours?
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>>7288800
Its a pokemon.
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>>7288800
Pokemon head
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>>7288785
>>7288797
>>7288807
Beary nice
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>>7288824
Thank (you)!!!!
im calling it done, it was a good session
time for bed
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I'll get there one day
Just not today
or tomorrow
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>>7288763
I tried taming the snout a bit, any better?
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>want to go outside for landscape drawing
>my entire country is a shithole with no good sceneries
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>>7288827
This very pretty and full of sovl, blog please.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it feels like you use a lot of stabilization on your lines, some of the lines have that feel to them
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>>7288847
draw that
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>>7288847
>impressionist paintings of your shithole with no good exceneries
Do that
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>>7288294
>>7287882
>>7287907
These are all good, thank you for these. I have such difficulty drawing gook eyes, I always make them way too small because they quite literally look like symbol drawing acorn eyes to my brain. I don't have that problem with other races
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>>7288327
The problem is with you, brainlet. Next you're going to argue a painting and a drawing is the same thing. Admit you're retarded and fucked up or stop posting.
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>>7288734
Tf is wrong with the arms
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>>7287335
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>>7288904
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>>7288907
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>>7288904
whats with the ninja turtle feet
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>>7288920
they're supposed to be socks but I fucked up
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>>7288926
Well it all looks good anyways, grats on studying the hard stuff instead of just butts n boobs, its paying off
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>>7287717
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>>7288957
>look inside "art work critique thread"
>no critique
>mostly retards making unfunny jokes
might as well go ask on reddit
might actually get advice there
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>>7288957
>>7288987
didn't mean to reply to you dont get me wrong you do fit the description of what I said
just didn't mean to single you out
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>>7288987
There's no point giving crits if it goes in one ear and out the other. So, the next best thing is to shitpost while practicing things.
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>>7288987
I really don’t know why I bother to come back here. At least /3/ still gives good advice sometimes, I guess.
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>>7288987
u seem lvlheaded. I'm an int artist and was wondering if u could help me point out what is wrong with this image? There's something off about it i just dont know what
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>>7288992
bad rendering
bad/unappealing stylized anatomy
unappealing
weird pose
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>>7288987
>if a joke doesn't make me slap my thighs together and howl it's useless
tism
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>>7288998
art work critique board not shitty reddit tier jokes board
its annoying when you ask for critique and finally get a reply after a few hours only to find out its a shitty joke made at your expenses
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>>7289002
Did you post in this thread asking for an earnest critique?
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I know I said i would include a bg but nothing ended up looking good so i scrapped it, also I fucked up the shading on the clothing
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render study
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>>7288996
okay how about now?
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>>7289006
yes and the only reply was a shitty joke
but jannies removed my post so its gone
I could understand not wanting to give critique because you don't know what you're talking about
but no one wants to hear your shitty joke, trust me
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>>7289021
You ever stop to consider people are doing it for themselves? I don't care what you think of it. I'm having fun while practicing. Also if you have a stick up your ass about getting a crit pyw so it can be critted instead of bitching about it.
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i'm starting my first actual figure drawing book, is the correct way to go about it drawing all the diagrams/figures and taking notes while actually reading? or am i better off just looking at the pictures and skimming and going straight to doing my own drawings?
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sketchu
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>>7289026
Everyone has different opinions of how you should go about doing them, but I personally both copy and then try to implement what I'm learning in a way that challenges me so that I'm sure I'm actually learning the concept. You should do what works best for you, not what is easiest. If you feel like you aren't learning the concept, change how you're studying. It should be challenging. If you aren't struggling you aren't growing.
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>>7289026
The best thing to do is to copy the drawings and apply what you learned to your own. You can of course write notes if you want but just reading isn’t going to do anything, only drawing will.
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>>7288987
1. it's a beg forum, what do you expect? almost everyone itt has no clue what they're doing or talking about, myself included
2. you didn't ask for advice, you said "miku the redeemer" and posted the memiest of memey trend meme drawings
3. you want some advice? learn to fucking draw because you essentially drew a glorified stick figure
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>>7289043
nta but I am not the one who drew the miku
I said I replied to the guy by mistake because I used the latest post in the thread to open the reply window
so you're being rude to some random guy for no reason
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do you really think I can....make it with Vilppu?
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>>7289092
>>7289092
>>7289092
>>7289092
>>7289092
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>>7288732
yeah i'm the same one
>>7288727
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>>7288849
>blog
Don't have one!
> it feels like you use a lot of stabilization on your lines
I have some stabilization, but not a lot (I think?)
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>>7288685
Ive been doing what you said for years and it still looks like shit. This is the fate of all people who arent meant to be good. Its why we cant have any right wing art anymore, right wingers simply dont become better fast enough if they draw what they like to draw
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>>7288444
Can you post at least a couple of screenies of shit he posted? Fuck my life I missed the fucking party AGAIN.
>>7288461
>Stop caring about that shit. We're all /beg/ until you get paid for it
Meds. Even I've gotten comms at my NGMI nigger prebeg level.
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A sketch after a figure drawing practice



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