If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artmangapose.comline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.>Cool teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru Hayashi>Cool booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7299047
>>7301968oh wow. mine made it into the OP.Anywho, How do i unfuck my shading? I kinda just gaussian blur an mumtiplier and a overlay layer with dark purple and white respectively + possibly misguided highlights
Booba
hogarth or huston or hampton
Probably not worth reposting but whatever
I decided to draw something again after taking after taking a break for several months.Anyways, I'd apprechiate some criticism. I think the biggest problems are hands, feet and folds
>>7301978this pisses me the HECK off!!!
>>7301979*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPFHFHGHHGHH*
>>7301968Okay but honestly you're the biggest retard low IQ piece shit garbage pre/beg/ bloody benchod bastard I've ever came across on this board
>>7302017Rude.Anywho small fixes, trying to get her butt look better.
>>7302035You know, actually it may be her legs what needs a line readjustment.
>>7302044both, really
girl eating ice cream
More sketches/doodles, I'm improving my times, I'm going to start trying to draw expressions.>>7301979>>7302035>>7302044Render more primitive or do more still life, it feels flat >>7301978Pick your colors by hand instead of letting the smudge do the gradients.>>7302008Study and copy work you like.
>>7302055what do you mean by render more primitive
>>7302059primitives*: sphere, cylinder, cubes
>>7302066mmm...so shade each "limb" separately?
Well, thanks for the feedback.pls do share any tips for drawing latex/bodysuits.
>>7302069that would be the next step but I would suggest to render a primitive daily and focus to make it look 3d. Honestly if we can render a simple primitive what luck do we have with a more complex object?>>7302072the thumbnail looks awesome I like the reflection too, the subject and the background doesn't look with the same perspective like they are 2 different works.
How do you even do shading in clip studio?
>>7302080like any other program.
>>7302078well the background is just an stage from a game.>>7302080multiply + overlay layers.plus gaussian blur up the butt if you dont know what youre doing like me.
>>7302085>multiply + overlay layers.>gaussian blur up the butt if you dont know what youre doing like me.and you wonder why your shit sucks.
>>7302090well i am here to change that.you can also put a gradient over the entire flat colors at aroubd 20% and overlay to help with the setting.
nondominant hand drawing >>7302055very cute
Posted last thread but no replies.Just picked up drawing again after a long hiatus. How bad is it guys? Any tips?
>doing box warmups>fuck around and throw in some triangles and cylinders >something hits me>make a body upside down what does this mean
>>7302110Seems okay. Only advice is to work on your line confidence.
Guys honest question, is Loomis a meme? What head drawing method is good?
>>7302177I've hung out here long enough to know that every single method is either a meme or a beg trap.
>>7302177It's a learning tool. Like training wheels. Like any other head drawing method.
>>7302177Its a tool to help you learn. If it doesn't work for you, then choose another. Or you can scream at the walls about how you're never going to make it because >>7302180
>>7301979>>7302153
Reposting since last bread was dead, but anyone know any program/course dumps from programs at Sheridan, OCAD and the like? I recently graduated and I wanna take art courses since I now have more free time without paying out the ass. Shit like weekly assignments, course project outlines, etc. I feel I can learn best with a structure like that.
I can't learnI can't make sense of anythingI can't visualizeI can't absorb knowledgeMy strokes don't get more accurateI draw a C when I try to make an LI can't apply what I read to future attemptsI draw each line dozens of timesI can only cheat and trace and it still looks bad
trying to learn how layers blend modes work. I thought the stockings worked well and was kinda convincing considering it's just a layer of black that was erased and a line for reflection
recording my drawings is quite eye-opening
>>7302258>Doesnt start from 0Nigger
>>7302262don't know how to turn that off in csp
how do I make something look like it's from a low res computer screen when drawing something with indian ink only?
>>7301968Tried out /trad/ today. Found out I'm too used to ctrl+z, involuntarily tried to do it irl lol
>>7302177Buy tracing paper and trace the heads you want to draw and you will internalize their proportions. This is probably how your favorite artist got good.
>>7302258pretty good anon, i find it interesting that you had the need to adjust the height of the figure but not the width, try it again but not side by side or at least not horizontally, width accuracy is something we all struggle with.
>>7302258where is her penis?
First time going off without reference, just from all I have assimilated from these past 2 months.
Dubs decide the next book I read.
>>7302333Quran, draw muhammad
>>7302329>First time going off without referenceshould've been doing that the whole time bro. You nearly wasted those 2 months
Hello beg, 1 body two heads. Error: Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try again. It is over. Is there a new anti mass reply system? or is there a trigger word? I had to delete bunch of yous, sorry.>>7302268considering how ink loves to bleed you wont. pixelated means precise squares and good luck trying to hatch tiny squares with ink. it will take you a lot of time and while looking unique, it most likely wont look pixelated>>7302110lack of replies means it is not bad enough to bait people into trying to help you and it is not good enough for praise. tldr just draw>>7302108how many kilometers does it take for the non dominant hand to reach mileage of the dominant hand?>>7301979find a photo reference of a real human. observe. draw.
>>7302353loving this creepy series desu. You could do an indie graphic novel for halloween
>>7302258What's the tool to stretch your drawing?>>7302344It's ok, I'm not on a hurry and I'm having fun so far.
>>7302353kinda vague with looking at a real human for anime stuff
Working on this.
not the best photo, I know, but bear with me. I realize I could've pushed the darks further, and added more variation in value, but I just wanted to do more or less a three-value study, with the tone of the paper serving as the midtone and a white colored pencil for the highlights. I also see that the left eye should be ever so slightly higher than the left, and that the space between the brow-line to the hairline is too big. took about 2 hours.
>>7302333atlas shrugged
>>7302353Awesome stuff Pawell.Don't worry, it must have been some site name you wrote, like red-dit*, in example. If you type that site's name it will trigger the spam warn. Maybe you used some other spam word or site name.I love your mass replies.
i made my oc in blender. i have not used blender before
I am really bad. Still cant make planes of face.https://files.catbox.moe/0li6oq.png
I don't know how to draw, probably never will.
>>7302339>>7302376Didn't think I had to clarify, but I forgot this is /ic/. I meant an art book, you ninnies.
>>7302385Flow my Tears the Policeman Said
>>7302333White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo
>>7302385the brothers karamazov
>>7302385then the art spirit by robert henri
>>7302396this book is too based for /ic/ goblins eyes
>>7302388WinrarHope you deliver faggot.
>>7302400dubs confirms dubs. there's no other way, anon (>>7302385)
>>7302388>>7302400>>7302402Very well. Not an art book, but I will read it anyways. Maybe I'll learn something new. Especially considering I'm actually black.I do want to read >>7302396.
I want to kill myself
>>7302411what's wrong? what are you trying to achieve?
>>7302419Perspective grinding to achieve 3d sense. Just fucking bullshit. Everyone just traces 3d models nowadays because why would they spend a big chunk of time doing this dogshit.Not even the fucking retarded hack who preaches this crap (Robertson) uses it. He is a NFT grifter who used to just trace over 3d car models
>>7302383It's a serious problem in art schools these days that people graduate not knowing how to do basic things like volume, values, depth, weight, perspective, composition, etc
>>7302429I would post the cap about the old school art teacher joining an art university and nobody knowing how to draw because all teachers like him were dead or retired and the students didn't want to learn how to art, they just wanted the status of an artist.
is this book https://naokisaito.booth.pm/items/3936324 good for a true /beg/ger?
>>7302435You can get his videos on Jewtube
>>7302437where
>>7302438Have you tride putting his name on Youtube you illiterate nigger?
>>7302437Yeah, I know, but I think the book will likely be better structured.Same question still stands, even if I use his videos instead of the book.
>>7302431doesn't exactly fit your description, but are you thinking of this?
>>7302446Yes it is exactly that but I remember old school cartoon characters on top
>>7302447glad they removed them, they are hideous and make the text sound like bullshit.
>>7302447
>>7302450philistine
>>7302435no, his method is too difficult for beginners
>>7302472Huh, alright. That kinda seems like a deathmarch sort of mentality, where you either make it in 3 months or never try again. Jap self-flagellation is legendary.
>>7302480NGMI
the results of sniffing glue.
>>7302472such and effort, if you only knew of my plan...in just 7 daysI can make you a man!
>>7301968/int/ here I'm tired of having to scroll past all the begtard scribbles, can we split /int/ and /beg/ back to what they were? Having your visual library polluted by begshart doodles as an upcoming artist is gonna have a huge negative effect on your output.
>>7302499pyw doe
>>7302427I got to sleep but I can give you a perspective secret that no book teaches tomorrow that might help
>>7302501I dont believe you but I will wait.
I've been doing some drawing while listening to my new favorite book, and I'm honestly kind of bored, two complete chapters in. The good think about this book is that drawing relieves my boredom, though I am still trying to absorb and understand the author's message, so it's not just me tuning her out.
Figure drawing practice.1 hr.
>>7302521lol i have almost all those references saved on pinterest do it again without all the scribbles
Critics please, I couldn't resolve many of the shapes I originally intended >>7302055 way beyond my skill level, but I'll get there eventually.>>7302571The colors on the curvature of the vase are really a pretty good job.>>7302108thanks! awesome values the more I squint the more volumetric it feels >>7302379really cool, be aware of your topology its the source of many nightmares.
>>7302472Hmm skimming through that i think it does offer some pretty good advice though. Having a role model, taking your practice as serious as if though you were selling it or commissioned. This is just the first chapter so maybe it gets more dense later on but all the points he makes about setting a goal and taking study serious are really what sets apart those who make quick progress from those who don't. I mean who's going to progress faster? The person with no concrete goal other than get good and half based studies to just say you studied? Or the person who has a goal like break down how my role model makes their art and treat my studies as if though they're commissioned? Ima keep it a buck, most people just really really suck at studying or creating tangible goals.
>>7301968fuck elbows
>>7301968Can someone tell me why my face looks "off"?I haaaaate faces.Please give me a redline
>>7302633Oh, I think I got itIt was the head placement itself that's wrong(if anyone can redline me to improve it, please do)
What do you guys think about this design? She's supposed to be a highborn lady and an archer in a RPG-like game setting.I've been trying to use more realistic proportions but I never like the end result they're boring so I'm going much more cartoony and enjoying it much more.>>7302372Your face is longer and and lacks values. lines are great for finding the shapes but you're using them to avoid drawing with values. Look at the lip and lower lid and you'll see what I mean.Do a grid on the image and on the canvas and then try and copy the shapes and use a mid value all over with the white pen used only for true whites.
>>7302636I'm a wretched int so take my points with many grains of salt.Your characters seem to be floating, so I tried to add some weight as they're both sitting down and angled toward the "camera". Their backs aren't arched, they support their weight at the shoulders so the shoulders kind of eat the neck so it looks like their heads are growing out of their collar bones.The blue one's face is pasted on, drawing a centerline vertically as well as horizontally that represent the center of the face and the deepest part from the top the ears helps with aligning the eyes and nose.
>>7302633because you've been working on this shit for a week and your brain refuses to entertain you any longer, start a new piece lil nigga
>>7302499Agreed, no offense to anyone (we all gotta start somewhere) but there's too much stuff i just can't relate to. And it makes zero fucking sense from a logic point of view. Why put elementary school and middle school kids in the same classroom?
>>7302650Thanks.I see the shoulder problem now>>7302652It's a commission, sorryGotta finish it
never posted on this board before, hope this is the right place for thiswhat do you think about my artstyle and character design? also, what would you infer/guess about these two characters based on their designs and this drawing?
Tried to go sketching
How do my boys look
>>7302635you always make the figure thicker than the reference, especially the torso. Is this purposeful?
>>7302750pretty sure it is. always at least 50lbs added.
Girl kissing wip
>>7302499>>7302654I see your point.
we're SO fucking backi was grinding portraits in trad with coal, but now i can get back to my nosy girls
>>7302846
>>7302571How long do these take you?
>>7302499I second this, split /beg/ and /int/ again.
>>7302744They're OK but you could push these poses more by giving them penises
>>7302650This looks worse than the previous poster lol
>>7302499Do you people have no long term memory? Every time there's been 2 threads they both just become full of people telling others to go back to the other thread.
I'm struggling trying to figure out how to fix this, it just looks "wrong" but I can't seem to figure out exactly where the "wrongness" is in order to correct it. Maybe the entire thing is just wrong.>did you overlay the clothes onto a base modelyes>was the model constructedyes
>have 1 (ONE) day break from drawing>skills are already starting to rustgrim
>>7302847
>>7302932You're shitting up the thread. Just post one drawing for critique retard no one cares
>>7302929On the contrary I find mine improve after long breaks
>>7302592Make a render of the elbow, maybe as a value mass to make it easier to understand.>>7302499>>7302899If you don't even give proper criticism or hints here, what makes you think an even smaller thread will be better 4u.Also nothing stops you from making the thread, but you won't because you don't pyw.>>7302919this>>7302639I like the colors and I like the princess mode, not a fan of the eyes and too much detail in the face makes it hard to read. The archer mode looks too complex. I like the contrast of the main shape between the 2 modes △▼. I would just keep it simpler.>>7302689I don't like it, looks pretentious, not fun, makes me infer too much about the author and not in a good way. resize your images before posting.
>>7302902Interesting. But I'm not that gay, anon
>>7301979The butt isn't two bulbous orbs, there are angles/poses where it can be, but then you have to pose for itEither accept that polymorphism of the butt or draw a different scene
is it possible to train observation and hand-eye coordination or is it a natural talent thing where if you cant look at what youre drawing and copy it you can only get better by symbol drawing?
>>7301968Stupid question but how long does it typically take to get at professional mangaka level? I see shit like this and it's crazy to me how this was once an empty piece of paper
>>7303034any reason you reposted my deleted post which was missing slight fixes?
I made poop lady
would copying from matessi's force book help me in understanding and getting gesture right
>>7303111drawing more will help you with drawing.
>>7303120i hate you faggots so much it's unbelievable but you're right, ty
>>7303111Idk i think the drawings from that book look like dogshit
>>7303111what the other anon said is right, gesture is so nebulous you'll pretty much have to seek out every single source of knowledge on it and incorporate whatever works from each of them into your own workflow
>>7303085I made poop lady a lil better
>>7303122i really like them and i think they show more... flow? motion? than other gesture styles, i tried hampton for a bit but i didn't feel like i "got" it>>7303127i understand that gesture is one of the things that you'll always get better at/always have more resources to look at, but i just want a general "decent" level at it before i start really going into bridgman and anatomy
>>7303111Grind figure drawing instead. Sense for gesture comes with mileage.
>>7302639I really like this character. Do you post your art on any social media? Know that feel about finding normal proportions boring, I struggle with it too.
>>7302639I really hate this character. Keep your terrible art off social media. I have no trouble with proportions.
>>7303154Why are you such a nigger
>>7303155Why aren't you so aryan
more goopy figuresstarting to get a better handle on how the chest and arms connect, maybe
>>7303165Either your torso's are too long or your legs are too short
did I do ok?
>>7303201both i guess depending on the figure, haven't put much thought into it other than trying to eyeball it
>>7303207you did great, hard edges can improve looks a little bit too much smudgy.>>7303121and I hate when you ask for help without pyw.
>>7302927You didn't construct shit or you need to grind the shit out of your construction
Okay so after having one day where I was sleep deprived, and having a good nights sleep last night, I was able to draw relatively well today (not great but I felt more incontrol compared to some previous days) and did this quick gesture (?) study, which I did in 10 minutes (goal wasn't accuracy, just capturing the general pose). I also recorded it, which you can watch here: https://streamable.com/fbgb1rI recorded it because I would like people to critique the way I do things, if it helps.
Man, I've been gone a while and this place has really got bad. Nodraws used to post bait replies every once in a while but now it's every other post./pol/ is completely unreadable, worse than 2016 or 2020, /v/ and adjacent boards are all full of bait threads that get reposted multiple times a week. Even the fucking porn boards are full of bait replies about blacked and tranny shit. It's like /b/ exploded and all the porn addled children infested every other board.>>7303207I agree with >>7303233
>>7303280SEAniggers have infested every single board. It's terrible. /vg/ is filled with threads taken over by the bbc scourge.
>>7301968roast me
>>7303312Legs look mismatched to the rest of the figure.
>>7303275Last thing for tonight. It doesn't look like much but hopefully tomorrow I'll get her looking nice. I feel like I am developing more confidence with my construction but god I can't get over how bad the sketching is...like at this point this could either look half decent or really really awful I have no idea.
