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The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work. That said, everyone is welcome here.

Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.
Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).
Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.

Previous thread: >>7331109

Some resources:
/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asg

Books:
Understanding Comics
Making Comics
Manga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Manga
https://mega.nz/folder/Dd4hnZTC#EjMIcTDPLbWXkAJLPHx2Kg
Story: Substance, Structure, Style and the Principles of Screenwriting
https://archive.org/details/RobertMcKeeStorypdf/
Even a Monkey Can Draw Manga
https://kupdf.net/download/even-a-monkey-can-draw-manga_58b9ca16e12e89233badd376_pdf
The Shonen Jump Guide to Making Manga
https://mega.nz/file/i81imLpI#GcheJ9Jjk3lw1RE9nQWgL4RG4wEBNOcRmgA-iaU6Wpg

Videos:
"Manga Senpai/Tokyo Name Tank", "SMAC! THE SILENT MANGA AUDITION COMMUNITY"
Habanero Scans: https://www.dailymotion.com/HabaneroScans/videos
Full MANBEN Series link: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0GiIM_rGEGPjTGQ4HadH4eizLu5E49Tz&si=gpRcOXt_H1l3shNF
Urasawa Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkIFOAoFm47XOAlJwTa6Ieg/videos

Source of OP image is Gunslinger Girl, Chapter 45, Page 22.
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>>7343026
Some western / indie publishers of Manga:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if http://www.antarctic-press.com/html/submissions.php is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to yenpress@yenpress.com, however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )
> Small indie manga publisher
> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes
> Allows crossposting to other sites

Iconic Comics (https://www.iconiccomics.com/)
>A bit like Oni Press and Antarctic Press
>A small publisher with a focus on indie works with manga inspiration
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>>7343028
Other open comic publishers:

Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )
>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.
>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.

Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )
>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.
>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.

Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )
>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.

Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )
>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faq

Top Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )
>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).

Additional publisher lists:
> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/
> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/
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>>7343029
Current Contests:

Silent Manga Audition 22 "Seized With Rage":
https://www.manga-audition.com/

Global Comics Awards 2024:
https://en.mangadraft.com/contests/global-comic-awards-2024.en

Mangano:
https://manga-no.com/mangano_award_1st#rules

Jump's Universal Manga Contest:
https://medibang.com/contest/jumpuniversal/entry/

/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onography
https://discord.gg/QYnFBves7V
https://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9
(Anthology project is defunct but the discord is alive)

Additional community added Resources:
Mangafonts: https://mangafonts.carrd.co/
Hiro Mashima YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mashimaCh/videos
Ganmo, a job listing board for manga assistant work: https://ganmo.j-comi.co.jp/posts

How (You) can help /mmg/:

> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.
> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.
> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.
> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effortposts that help you for posterity.
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I need to get this off my chest.
>get to work at 6
>absolutely hate my job, my colleagues, my bosses, everything
>keep swearing to myself while working: I have to finish my one-shot, send it to publisher, keep working for serialization, then quit this shitty unfulfilling life
>get off work at 21
>work out then do house chores
>get into bed at 22
>constantly reminding myself of my goal in my sleep
>get up at 3
>immediately get to my desk and start writing my story
>before I realize, I'm now reading "how-to" books, gathering references, checking/following-up my job-related works, browsing 2ch, checking crypto market, working on trade setups, eating snacks, etc.
>it's now 6
>get to work
>repeat
Fuck.
I have been stuck in this brainstorming phrase since March.
Progress = 0%
I have attempted to remove all kind of distractions, but I always end up just sitting unresponsively and staring blankly at the wall.
Is this what they call brain fog?
Even if I managed to actually get on working, I wind up just revising my entire story again and again because I keep finding flaws in the plot/worldbuilding/characters by each revision.
I can't help myself but to get fixated with writing the overarching worldbuilding that might not even have any significant effect to the plot for the one-shot I am working on.
I just can't get out of this spiral of write>revise>write>revise.
I haven't even start drawing yet.
Not the storyboard.
Not the designs.
No drawing at all.
Should I just commit sudoku?
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>>7343077
you're having a hard time starting because you know its going to be dozens of hours of grueling work. You need to draw smaller fun comics to build experience before doing your one shot.
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>>7343077
You're neurotic. You won't ever start.
Pyw, anything at all and I'll tell you the honest truth
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>>7343107
I actually think you have to be insane to some degree to want to draw comics. Its already the most un-intuitive hobby on earth (drawing) but multiplying the effort by 100 while dividing the attention you get by 100 as well. So being apprehensive about starting is completely normal in my eyes, that anon needs to let passion take over and just start without logic.
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>>7343120
I'm assuming he can already draw, so the first part would be a gimme.
If you can't draw and want to get published and serialized, you're not neurotic, you would have to be delusional beyond comprehension.
So, for those of us already insane enough to draw, comics are less insane than your 500th floating anime head.
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>>7343077
so yeah, you need to just focus on actually making manga instead of all of this crap. It's going to be difficult though if you are a full time wagie to get much done though.
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Hey Comic/Manga Anons, the Goat poster here from threads, thanks for all the kind words.

My 1 shot is going to be roughly 50~ pages, so far i have 33 thumnails ready to put into rough pages (havent done the final part because want it to simmer in my head some more)

This is the Rough manucript for the prolog:
>https://imgur.com/a/4oVztvX

its 15 pages, can you guys give a quick glanz and lemme know your first impression whether the dialog is pace properly or is something over done or do you have any other suggestion, I would really appreciate it!

(yes im aware of some typos)
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>>7343190
Looks nice, anon. But, uh, how big is a "fairy" in your world? I'm having trouble imagining your last panel, lol.
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>>7343274

Fairies and Faerling are 2 different things in this settings but uses interchangeably even for things like Kobolds, there are a big ass fairy and a small ones the size of a flower.

Like our real world mountain spirit, kobold, fairy, Elf or dwarf are use interchangeably i though it would add life and complexity to the settings.

maybe i will cut it out and have a proper classification.

I want to have the reader have a "vague" idea of what a fairy is and not just have peter pan fairy in their head.

if it confuses the reader too much i might cut it down.
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>>7343190
>>7343292
reddit
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>>7343107
>Pyw, anything at all and I'll tell you the honest truth
If you don't mind offensive materials:
https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/Eb9t4S0/1/1/
https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/VO4RyCs/1/1/
Shit.
It just came to me just now when I finished curating all these images.
I haven't finished any single drawing at all this year.
Not a single piece.
My latest artwork was from December 2023.
Goddamnit.
I'm starting to hate myself even more now.
What have been doing all this time?
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where can you find writers to work with? I'm not very good at writing stories, especially dialog. I have a preference for slice-of-life and drama stories, but it's very difficult to find someone who's interested in writing stories of this kind, most people just want to do fantasy
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>>7343326
Anon, I clicked on your links. Those two are your works? Because if so this is pretty detailed stuff and shows an ability to focus on a project and get it done. I'm having trouble understanding how you're allegedly dealing with artist's block when you've got these other things already made. And if these ARE your works, why have you not published them? Seems to me like you have 80% (if not more) of something that's ready to go.
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>>7343326
anon I am not that person but your art is fucking awesome. Nice lines, beautiful textures and figures. There's some really creative compositions in terms lewdness and artsiness as well. You were able to capture a very unique chaotic feeling. So please create more and be kinder to yourself
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>>7343077
>>7343326
Great art. Gold line work, sense of texture, and a great use of tones! The only real criticism I'd have is there are spelling mistakes throughout, and your comic page layouts are a little hard to read to me. Your single page illustrations are definitely your strong suit, and the comic pages seems to go for that all out amazing art similar to the full page illustrations. but sometimes when it comes to reading comics, simple is better to make it easier to read. Maybe even just having more white space between panels helps? And the pages are very wordy, without word bubbles, which makes the text kinda melt into the illustrations. But idk, just start. Forget the world building people won't care about and just make anything, even if it's dumb, least you'll have made something. Even if it's just page by page? I have a tiny cheap sketchbook I bring to work that on breaks I scribble thumbnail my scripts on.
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>>7343326
I'll be honest, most of this crosses the line by million miles for me but I absolutely love the tamer stuff in the beginning of the first link. Makes me wish I could reprogram your brain.
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>>7343326
Yeah I should have heeded your warning.

Your skill is there, but I'm not surprised you can't focus on doing a one shot.
If your one shot isn't porn based, maybe make it so, since that might keep your attention.
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>26k word script
>still not quite done
>haven’t drawn a goddamn thing
it’s over for me isn’t it bros
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>>7343495
It isn't gonna be over if you just start drawing now. There's no need to be so far ahead on the plot. All you need is the foundational outline for the chapters that are super far ahead. Worry about the minutiae later.
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>>7343500
maybe i just enjoy writing more at this point or i just crashed and burned because i have no motivation to draw anything.. not like i’m that good anyway
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>>7343543
>not like i’m that good anyway
It frankly shouldn't matter, skill-level wise. We've got all kinds of anons drawing away here. Post your work? Anything you've done?
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>>7343077
>>7343326
>Porn addicted pedophile
>Why am I so depressed?
Stop making soul sucking garbage all of the fucking time and you wont be suicidal. And yeah porn IS the problem.
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>>7343558
kind agree with this anon. Maybe if you were doing something with more substance you'd have a better mentality about your art and yourself
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>>7343028
Is SaturdayAM the Nijisanji of Indie Manga? Want to make sure before I apply
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>>7343558
Bro's got a job, he's making this shit for FUN! It might be too late.
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>>7343556
i have this, but it’s just a standalone piece
i had a bit of some pages done awhile ago, but i’ve either changed the script or come up with something better so they’re all junk now basically
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>>7343077
You're literally me except your art is good.
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>>7343558
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>>7343326
Whoa, how did you achieve those textures??
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>>7343558
not that anon but reading this after gooning for an hour, cuts deep. That's an hour I could have spent drawing, but I didn't. But now my mind is clear and I can probably draw, so porn is a slight benefit too.
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>>7343558
More blunt than I would put it, but essentially yeah.
I hope he doesn't come back. Pornanon at least has some rules (albeit they might be job enforced)
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>>7343726
Be thankful you can goon for an hour. All I have is 15 minutes in the bathroom.
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>>7343077
You should watch the movie Adaptation (the one starring Nicholas Cage) the film literally addresses this problem head on.
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>>7343748
>Pornanon at least has some rules (albeit they might be job enforced)
I do?
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>>7343771
You draw loli porn? I misjudged you.
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>>7343773
I don't, but not because of any rules or anything (other than australian law, lol). It just doesn't interest me.
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>>7343748
I'm curious, for the various anons who responded to >>7343326: At what point does it become a "porn addiction?" The second you draw anything at all? When it touches on only certain subject matters or said subject matter is portrayed in a specific way? When its X% of yourbtotal drawn portfolio? I ask because if it's anything at all, then by that logic the majority of professional comic artists and animators fall into that camp. And if you're wondering, no I have not drawn any porn whatsoever (not counting genuine fundie studies of both genders in this).
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>>7343788
When you go from tasteful eroticism to pedo goblin gang rape.
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>>7343558
>>7343802
>pedo
Where? I see a blonde chick with massive knockers. I suspect you guys didn't actually look at the image.

>>7343788
Well, like any addiction, when it becomes hard to stop. When you do it even when it brings you no pleasure. I don't see how it's any different from, say, playing video games. Both pleasurable but unproductive activities, and both can be turned into a productive hobby (read: being paid for it).
Actually I'd argue that drawing porn is by definition productive, as in you are creating a product. Yes, it can in theory become depressing, just like any job. And of course becoming dependent on it, consuming porn without being able to stop even if it brings you no pleasure can obviously be a cause of depression.
But the guy is describing a reluctance to actually start his project. It's terminal procrastination, not addiction to anything. Drawing a bit of porn has nothing to do with it.
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So... How do you make good sound effects? I mean the font size, style etc... I'm trying to make them using a brush because I have no idea how to use actual fonts for it
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>>7343806
>I suspect you guys didn't actually look at the image.
NTA but YOU didn't actually look at the images if you missed the gallery with little girls being raped while he drives home that they are 13 years old and being raped.
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I had a phase of drawing porn but it fell short. Idk I preffer drawing cute girls and some "safe lewd" stuff like thighs(I like thighs) than something more obscene
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>>7343811
>age: 17
Again, still not seeing anything even remotely resembling pedophilia. Do you think you're on twitter or something?
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>>7343822
autism has no cure
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>>7343806
>pedo
Read the text in the first link.
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>>7343829
Oh shit, I missed that was a gallery.
15 still isn't pedophilic.

And again, we're not on twitter. This is 4chan. If you're going to cry and poo your pants over drawings of fictional teen girls then you're on the wrong site. And it's still beside the point.

>>7343077
Frankly, I don't have a solution to your problem. The answer is to sit down and just start. I don't think there is an interim step, at least not one that I've found. My advice: the second you finish reading this post, alt-f4 out of your browser, open up whatever you draw in and start storyboarding. Yes, it'll be a brick wall. But if you want to make comics that wall is unavoidable, so start climbing it.
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A bit salty so I'm venting but It's so aggravating that most of the big artists on IG are just fanart accounts. How do people even build up a following for their stuff?
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>>7343833
yeah the term is ephebophile
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>>7343326
>>7343558
>>7343788

>Chimp in state of nature never jerks off, but in captivity he does, wat does this mean? In state of nature he’s too busy, to put plainly. He is concerned with mastering space: solving problem of life in and under trees, mastering what tools he can, mastering social relations in the jockeying for power and status. Deprived of this drive to development and self-increase he devolves to pointless masturbation, in captivity, where he senses he is in owned space and therefore the futility of all his efforts and all his actions. The onanism of modern society is connected with its supposed “hyper-sexualization” and its infertility. It’s not really hyper-sexualization, but the devolution of the spirit to the lassitude of a diffuse and weak sexuality.
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>>7343837
Comics specifically: posting high quality (relatively speaking, you don't need to be a pro but you do need to stand out from the crowd) work on a consistent, regular basis over a long period of time. When I was posting Quickdraw daily I was getting a consistent, gradual growth. I think if I kept it up I could have grown to over 1k followers by now, not bad for non-pornographic OC. Be prolific, make lots of stuff and post it as many places as you can and keep it up for a long time. It doesn't pay off quickly.

If it makes you feel any better, fanart accounts almost always stay fanart accounts. You're attracting fans of the characters/works you're drawing fanart of, not fans of you or your work. A lot of those followers are a meaningless number, not really an accurate representation of success. Which sounds like sour grapes, but when it comes to the business of comics, having 3000 followers where 20% of them are paying customers > having 50k followers where 1% of them are paying customers. A smaller but more devoted fanbase is the best you can reasonable shoot for on your own, if you want higher you ought to try publishers.
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>>7343822
>>7343833
>>7343844
He's a pedophile niggers, stop coping.
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>>7343855
>Comics specifically: posting high quality (relatively speaking, you don't need to be a pro but you do need to stand out from the crowd) work on a consistent, regular basis over a long period of time.
While I agree with you generally, I always end up bumping into the works of some mangaka who get published and their art is frankly worse than SEVERAL of the anons here and it's like ???????????
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>>7343880
>mangaka who get published and their art is frankly worse
Like who?
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>>7343876
kek why are anons so adamant in saying this is not pedophilia.
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>>7343880
Working with a publisher is a completely different thing from growing a social media following. There's a reason I'm not posting drawings every day on twitter anymore, I just post a snippet every few days to remind people that I exist. That would be nowhere near enough to get anywhere if I wasn't published. So like I said, posting high quality work on a consistent regular basis. Ideally one a day.
Actually, ideally you want to do the homestuck thing of dropping significant updates in big chunks on frequent but irregular intervals to maximize interest and hype. Of course, that works best for stories with intrigue or action to keep people interested.
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First page ready. It only took me a month and a half (kek). Just 100 more to go
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how do get into drawing manga with krita? i have the story in mind but i never start because i feel like i don't even know how to paginate, draw speech bubbles, and so on
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>>7343912
Anon, please look into how to make proper speech bubbles. Words ideally shouldn't be grazing the edges and have some blank space around them.
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>>7343916
Thanks. I will look into that later.
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>>7343913
Pagination is a convenience, not a requirement.
If you can draw a line you can draw a speech bubble. Just draw 'em in manually.
Same with panel borders, if you can make a straight line (a figure tool, a ruler, whatever) then just do that.

The rest is just drawing.
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>>7343926
i know i can throw lines and circles, but it will look like shit, any manga i see looks pretty much standard in that regard, almost like drawing and laying the "infrastructure" are separate things
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>>7343932
You'd be surprised. A lot of mangas have speech bubbles mostly free handed from several "curves." They arent perfect circles/ellipses.
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>>7343776
Ah, so you have no moral quandaries about what you draw? I mean I kinda figured since your job and all, but it's not unusual for people to have stuff they refuse to draw, like furry scat porn or guro or whatev. Good(?) to know you have no qualms on what you'll draw, just a lack of interest.
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>>7343876
>N-no you see the men were actually wrong! She's an adult stuck in a childs body...who was just visiting 4th grade
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>>7343955
I try to keep morals out of my work. There are things I agree with and things I disagree with, but I despise it when I'm reading something and it feels like the author is getting up on a soapbox or trying to convince me of something, so I just keep my own beliefs out of my work as much as possible. Obviously the characters in my stories have their own beliefs, but I'd rather people form their own opinions on what the characters do or say rather than try and present anything as morally right or morally wrong. I generally just write whatever story I find interesting. For example, If I write a story about a guy raping a kid and getting away with it, it ain't because I think people who rape kids should get away with it or because raping kids is good actually, but because I think that would be an interesting direction to take a story.
Though I understand that this is a world where people will vilify you for depicting horrible things in stories, so that does kinda stay my hand a bit. I've had an idea for a story for ages now that if I made it I'm pretty sure people would think it's some kind of pedophile apologetica or something.
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>>7343958
Ah year old girl pretending to be a kid to pray on kids only to be fucked by other predators thinking they are kids
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>>7344001
*Yeah
Worse spelling that esl fnf pedo shitskin who made comic in first place
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>>7343880
It makes me wonder what the strongest points are in comicmaking for each anon here?
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>>7343977
I like stories that pose an idea and let the reader make up their own mind. That's what I'm trying to do, most of the conflict in my comic is between warring forces where it's left up to the reader to decide who was in the right. But ultimately I'm pretty conservative in my beliefs so people might disagree with what I define as flaws.

>I've had an idea for a story for ages now that if I made it I'm pretty sure people would think it's some kind of pedophile apologetica or something.

You should play black souls 1 and 2 if you want to see pedo art done right.
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Jesus.
I think I'm gonna skip this thread and catch you guys in the next one
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Does anyone know how to achieve this white silhouette around her? What is it called where it's fading into a white gradient like this?
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>>7344137
CSP spray airbrush and gauze/gauze cloud.
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>>7344138
Thank you. Exactly what I was looking for.
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Working on commission comic of client's OCs wrestling
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I was drawing in a manga style and I was wondering if there's any quicker way to do the coloring / pattern thingies.
It took me like 5 hours to finish what I assume to be just a single panel, it was painstakingly slow.

If anyone could point me in the right direction that'd be great. I read the sticky and plan on watching the videos linked there. Is there anything else I should be aware of?
I use clip studio paint if that matters.
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>>7344216
Not much advice can be given without seeing the work first.
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>>7344136
Yea I don't particularly like goblin nigger pedo cuck rape hentai either, just my personal taste y'know. Got nothing against goblin nigger pedo rape personally, just not my style.
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>>7344226
Here it is.
I really enjoy copying manga panels as practice/studies so that's why I would like to know more about it.
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>>7344257
If it took you 5 hours to draw then you just need practice. Just keep drawing and you'll get faster.
And what do you mean "a quicker way"? What are you doing now for tones? Pic related is a quick and simple way to do it in CSP.
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>>7344267
Hmm yeah but the tones are different, sometimes there's lines, sometimes there's dots, sometimes there is squares, sometimes there is a like a noisy pattern... I'm not sure how to replicate all of those is what I mean.
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>>7344271
Just change the dot settings.
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>>7344280
Thank you very much this will save me so much time!
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Any critiques on the masterstudy below? Inked it, then scanned it in to color with clip studio
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Heres the OG
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>>7344257
Is this a study or original? Either way, you're getting better at replicating your anime boys. The other anon is right, speed just comes with more practice. Good job
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>>7344308
Thanks!
It's a study/copy of a manga panel I found. I did studies of manga panels before but usually just rendered the image as normal. I really wanted to try to mimic the manga style on this one and it was surprisingly fun.
It'll be a while before I'm good enough to stop copying and only use pose refs so don't praise me too much. Will keep grinding
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>>7344311
>>7344308
Found the panel, here's the original
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>>7344313
That's just some random fanart illustration, not exactly a manga panel.
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>>7344317
Ah I think it's actually from the manga and someone put the text on there. Or a fan manga idk. I didn't read the particular manga for this anime. (I might be wrong as well, not a manga expert)
But pic rel is from the manga and you can see the similarities
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>>7344318
Yeah don't worry I'm just nitpicking.
And good lord does pinterest make it absolute cancer to find the source for shit.
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>>7344321
Yes it's super hard to find the source. Kind of retarded to be honest. After a lot of googling, I think it might've been an image from a light novel. Not sure how those differ from manga, I guess maybe they're more stylized and have more detail/colors
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the "Manga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Manga" link is broken
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>>7344302
Other than the quality just being a little worse since you're not as experienced, it's a very accurate copy. However, the main issue is that you can make better use of empty space.

Compare the sky and the edges of the panels from the og to the original - you can see a noticable difference in how everything is much closer to the edges in your version, which makes things seem faster and more claustrophobic. That can be desirable to set some moods, but isn't the best for a wide open desert

Also your shadows are a bit harsher in a way I find unappealing. Still better than what I could do though
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>>7344149
hey cool, I'm doing a wrestling story too
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Remember, it’s the characters and writing that really matter.

We’re all going to make it.
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>>7344450
That's awesome. Anythipnnmdng to show?
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>>7344467
Whoops, captcha fucked up

Anything to show?
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>>7344450
nta but what’s yours about?
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>>7344466
togashi is unironically good at drawing but he also just has moments like this...
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>>7344450
Don't engage, he only does fetish shit
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>>7344280
this is nice, i like it. Very unfinished WIP but managed to copy the background almost perfectly from the ref
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>>7344466
The real essential element of the medium of manga is beautifully drawn turkeys
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>>7344466
>>7344486
>beautifully drawn turkeys
... why do I get a sinking feeling that's a photo that's been converted into lineart and then somewhat edited further?
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>>7343876
by your logic you just distributed cp, even if you censored it, its still and erotic material that is intended to be understood as cp. You are no better than the people you attack.
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>>7344466
how do artist draw this and think "this is finished"? I would never accept this from myself, and I'm not saying I'm better than him. I'm saying I cant be satisfied with my art until I put a ton of pain and hours into constructing every little thing "correctly".

If your an established pro I guess it doesn't matter anymore since people are reading for the story, so you can just continue in with stick figures and people will read, but then again maybe this is an ngmi mindset to have.
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>>7344506
>how do artist draw this and think "this is finished"?
Because at the end of the day while they like art, they're actually there to pay the bills. Not everyone is gonna be like Kaoru Mori.
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>>7344506
That's actually really fucking good. It takes a lot of skill to properly cartoon, even if it doesn't take as long to produce. I would even say those bottom panels look better stylistically than his standard 'finished' ones.
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>>7344501
extremely retarded take
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>>7344506
>People are reading for the story
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>>7344506
maybe the guy who has been in the business for decades knows something we don't?
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>>7344520
>pedo calling someone else retarded
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>>7344516
It is good, I like it a lot but drawing that way is very hard for me. Some people seem to have gotten defensive like this joker >>7344534 so I guess we're not allowed to discuss how to draw manga like mangakas do
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>>7344466
theyre scribbles but still genuinely amazing drawings
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>>7344542
I wasn't being defensive. I was being completely earnest. A lot of older mangaka seem to have a different approach compared to younger mangaka that seems like a different sense of theory rather than just subscribing to different trends.
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>>7344550
Alright well my bad. Your post seemed like a sarcastic dismissal
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>>7344536
extremely retarded response
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>>7344476
I fail to see the problem
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>>7344119
Anon would you ever put out a small tutorial or guide on how to tone and ink like you do?
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>>7344506
>how do artist draw this and think "this is finished"?
Anon have you ever drawn a manga weekly?
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Halfway throught trying to redo the page 3 and somehow i have abilty to make it look worse than original
Only i can make remaster look shitter than og
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>>7344609
This was og
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>>7344613
>>7344609
...are you doing this with a mouse?
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>>7344642
Brutal
With liners but way it registers lineart it crunches smoothness
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>>7344645
Like it matters
You hand me every possible liner and it would still look the same
I have no skills but i must draw
And worst of all i enjoy it
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What the fuck is Viz even looking for? The last two one shots they've promoted loom absolutely awful, I'm so baffled as to what gets selected and what doesn't
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>>7344683
Looking for their relatives
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>>7344687
Wait is there really a case of nepotism there?
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>>7344501
The shit you pedophiles will say lmfao
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>>7334088
continuing
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>>7344501
>proves someone is a pedophile
>y-you shared cp what now Atheist?
You pedophiles always accuse the whole world of being like so you don't have feel uncomfortable with being a pedophile. It's fucking pathetic.
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>>7344875
how is a black blob supposed to prove anything?
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>>7344810
I like this anon
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>>7344506
Because the dude has crippling back pain, and DIDN'T look at this and think "this is finished". He looked at it and thought "fuck, this'll have to do". You're making the assumption that everything published is exactly how the author wanted it to be. He fixed it up a bit for the tankoubon, which is common practice even outside of extreme examples like this.
>I would never accept this from myself
You think you wouldn't, but what are you going to do if you start having health issues in the middle of a weekly serialization? It's either publish a scuffed version that you fix for the book or go on break for the week. Either way you're pissing off readers who don't give a flying fuck about what might be happening to you personally and only care about the cartoon you draw.

>>7344495
Because you don't know any better, I guess? It's not. Togashi has done stuff like that, but this ain't it.

>>7344597
I already did one for tones. See >>7344267
As for inking, I'm not doing anything special. The only thing I can really say that isn't purely a personal style thing is to draw your lines rougher. When drawing digital, don't be tempted to draw everything in one perfect stroke. It ends up looking wrong, it's where that "digital" look comes from. Instead draw the lines with multiple overlapping strokes. Pet the lines and build them up, it looks a lot better in the finished product.

>>7344687
Nah, I don't think there's any relation between the authors and the editorial.
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>>7345015
I didn't know about the story behind it, I thought it was accepted by editors and publishers. Its a reasonable assumption considering some manga out today like chainsaw man that have, for lack of a better term, "rushed" looking art.

The context behind it makes a lot more sense but the guy who posted the image made it look like the artist drew that way intentionally and as his true vision.
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>>7345046
What matters to editorial is whether or not the work is popular (read: sells). If a new, unproven author tried to deliver work like that, they'd probably be yelled at and told to fix it. However, both the examples you mentioned, chainsmaw man and hxh, are proven to sell, so some slack can be allowed in the artwork. Keep in mind that HxH page was over a hundred chapters in, it's not like this is the reader's first impression of the series. People reading it are already hooked.
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>>7344495
>>7344486
I wish there was an easier way to find out assistant's names for certain series. This guy was pouring his heart out over a juicy plump turkey, and I spent more time looking at Gon's cute little face. It's really inspiring to see someone's assistant start their own series, and look back on what they contributed for their elders. I only get to find out their names if they end up really successful like all of Fujimoto's assistants, which may be in part due to Fujimoto vouching for them and encouraging them to pursue their own stuff
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>>7344898
who gassed up these pedophiles into thinking they deserve to fom part of society.
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>>7345163
they made the turkey so detailed so you get the pov you are gon about to eat a turkey experience
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>>7345163
A lot of manga credit assistants at the back or front of the book. That said, it seems like it's more common outside of Jump, and I can't find any staff credits on any of the HxH books.
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>>7345163
That said, Fujimoto's assistants are credited, at least in some of the volumes. And while a couple of ex-Fujimoto assistants did go on to become successful authors, he had and has plenty of other assistants too. It's misleading to say that they all or even most of them become successful authors of their own, and it's only because of your own ignorance (no offense meant) that you don't know their names before they have hits of their own, not because of some tragic lack of credit or anything.
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>>7345186
To clarify, that image is from Fire Punch volume 7. I might have been mistaken about credits in CSM because I can't seem to find anything. So yeah, might be a WSJ thing.
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>>7345186
oh of course, i think it's just a personal reaction to the fact that I underappreciate and forget the impact assistants have on wht happens with weekly series. survivorship bias or something right? that the people behind the scenes don't get noticed unless they get lucky, so you think everyone that works for him is doing great. i know there are rumours that part2's art is getting sloppy because he just doesn't give a shit anymore, and not the fact that it's hard to retain assistants for long and having to onboard and manage a team as well as draw and write your own series in that time period.

Related, but going to watch look back tonight as well, heard good things about it.
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>check /ic/ for the first time in a year
>in every thread there's people calling all anime pedophilia
>lolicon hate threads
>even /mmg/ is going through a lolicon panic
Pretty sad state of affairs desu
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>>7345309
4chan's old culture is on it's deathbed.
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>>7345309
Good. Kill all pedophiles.
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>>7345418
Methinks you protest too much.
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>>7345309
>/lsg/ is continuously one of the most popular threads on the board week after week
>b-but why don't they want lolicon on /mmg/!
Yeah, it's clear you haven't been here in a while, because your observation is retarded. I don't even have a problem with drawing lolis, I just don't draw them having sex. I guess that's hard for some people to not draw, but you have a containment thread.
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>>7345309
nodraws keep crying
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>>7345539
If one anon posts a link to a gallery of his art and there's one loli picture there I don't think it warrants a full bawling your eyes out meltdown like the one that is going on in this thread. It's absolutely pathetic.
>>7345438
The source of that sort of crusader mentality often is a feeling of guilt.
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>>7345655
I don't have a problem with lolis, but I'd rather not see underage gang rape drawings here.
Also,
>The source of that sort of crusader mentality often is a feeling of guilt.
So this guy is into the same stuff as you, so why do you argue with him?
Either post your sexual fantasies in manga form, or take it to lsg. I'd prefer the latter, but at this point I'd rather just stay on topic.
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>>7345672
hello r*ddit
why should anyone give a shit what you want to see
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>>7345655
The only people crying are ones who got reminded that lolicon was pedophilia.
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>>7343955
return to Reddit
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>>7345731
Very cute.
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What are some important competitions where you could send in a Manga (and hope to get noticed)? I knwo there's at least one that gets mentioned on /ic/ rather often.
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>>7345730
>why should we post manga style in mmg
Oddly enough, I wouldn't be surprised if you're still smarter than most pedos. But that bar ain't high nigger
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>>7343326
Make a twitter or a pixiv so I can follow you. I think some of your comic work is a bit chaotic and a bit much in terms of visual clutter/ anatomical and proportions issues but the texture and quality in the individual illustrations is great. Sexy and based art.
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>>7345908
There's literally a few ongoing competitons linked at the start of the thread.
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>>7345309
theres been a growing anti-anime sentiment on 4chan since 2016
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>>7345981
fucking tourists its an anime website lmfao
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>>7345971
it says "current". I mean the big ones, no matter whether they are going on right now.
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>>7346015
scratch that, I get it now.
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>>7345915
art board, manga thread, lolicon website
no explanation needed
>we
I'm talking to (you)
I don't care about your tribalism, "we" aren't a collective, you don't have to agree with what anyone says or draws to get along with them
tldr get over yourself
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>>7345901
thanks :)
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Tomorrow starts the last week before i finally know about the results of the monthly awards, this is the last week of "bliss" before getting struck down by reality, the more time it passed the more hopeless i got and now i just hope the tiniest of the recognitions or that the editor mail is hopefull enough to keep doing this or finally give up

Geez, i didn't thought that things would start to get so dreadful the closer to the end we get, but here i'm terrified that get struck down by reality for the last time

Sorry for posting such out of topic and depressing thing, but lately i have been more anxious and getting nightmares of how hard i fail so i needed to vent out, i hope that anons keep hopefull enought to give their first step anyways
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>>7346313
Drawing's supposed to be fun, if you're anxious to the point of nightmares then maybe you need to reassess why you're doing any of this in the first place. Keep you chin up Anon.
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>>7346313
Really don't know why you're hoping for a homerun on your first bat.
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>>7346333
Is the opposite, is more that i haven't draw
And i think more about the state of my arm, i thought that without the stress of drawing everyday i would get better, but the chance haven't been noticeable, so i feel if i don't archive anything right now, the things will just get harder

>>7346338
Not a homerun, just a first base, anything could have worked
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>>7343483
Very cool.
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>>7346352
>Not a homerun, just a first base, anything could have worked
No, getting contacted by an editor from something you uploaded to MPC is definitely a homerun.
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>>7346363
I'm pretty sure that says that every month the first top 10 in the monthly ranking will get readed by shueisha editors so that's a given if you get that

But maybe you are right, that they read it doesn't mean that they will say something
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>>7346381
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>>7346364
>I'm pretty sure that says that every month the first top 10 in the monthly ranking will get readed by shueisha editors so that's a given if you get that
That does not mean the editors will contact you or anyone in the top 10. If you thought that's what that meant, then I'm sorry to disappoint.
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>>7346384
Alright so i went to check, and it'a different in spanish, meanwhile in english says that they will decide the winners, in spanish said that the shueisha editors will evaluate the finalist works, so thanks to that i thought that they would do something like in sma that they send you a short email with few works nonetheless you win something or not
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>>7346375
This the same story as the cuck wagie?
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>>7346431
The final chapter!
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>>7343077
>wake up
>NEET so I don't have to work
>browse 4chan for like 15 hours daily from the moment I wake up to the moment I got to sleep
>takes tremendous willpower to brush my teeth or even play video game
>somehow still think about drawing/making manga 24/7
Been doing this since 2018. My greatest feat was drawing for an hour a day for a month and I was very depressed and anxious because I felt like it was too much of a responsibility and took too long.
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>>7346375
I feel like these bubbles are too small. They're absolutely tiny even at full size, it makes things hard to read.
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>>7343326
I love your stuff.
Keep it up, gmi
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>>7346375
I've always liked the way you draw faces and expressions, but your bodies have always felt a little awkward. What's your process?
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>>7346779
Who the fuck is making these posts? Why did this thread become the pathetic crybaby general? This thread is for making manga not whining about how much of a freak loser you are. Depression is a choice, Pyw or get lost.
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>>7347235
People vent. If you don't like that then you should quit your bitching too.
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>>7347249
You're right, he just needed to get that off his chest. Tomorrow will be the day he makes a change.
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>>7344501
You're actually retarded
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Only 9 pages left to finish the arc.
Will most likely have to pull back on the pages for next arc, the story is simply too long so I am trying to figure out how to make the drawing process go faster because otherwise I will probably die before I finish it. Maybe looser lineart or black and white with color dashes. Something to ponder before moving on to the next arc.

-----
As a side comment, a comic I am reading now and really enjoying!
https://globalcomix.com/c/awesoman/chapters

As a secondary comment always post links!
https://wingsofdaera.cfw.me/

>>7345731
lol
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>>7347373
How much longer does it take to color everything? Double?
I can't bring myself to color even for wbetoons
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>>7347482
I feel like color isn't really the problem, I am pretty fast with it. Shading is.
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>>7347163
>draw face
>half ass the body
>redraw face
>redraw it again until it looks nice
>go beat meat after a job well done
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>>7346381
where can I read your comic?
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>>7347555
You can read it on Globalcomix https://globalcomix.com/c/monday-s-forecast-for-hareyakana-shi?utm_medium=GCMobileReaderApp&utm_source=share-comic&utm_campaign=chopsuey&utm_term=monday-s-forecast-for-hareyakana-shi
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Is it just me, or does something about drawing in CSP feel "off"? As if the stabilizers are on even when they are disabled
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>>7347622
Hmm. I'm one of the last few retards who uses photoshop, and I was thinking about finally switching over. Is it bad?
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>>7347635
Well, let's wait and see what others say, but it definitely doesn't feel good. Like, if TVPaint is the most "natural" feeling program (if you've used that), followed maybe by Paint Tool Sai, CSP feels like you've always at least got a stabilizer on at about a "2" no matter what you do. It makes getting naturally messy lines oddly frustrating
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Is chatgpt intelligent enough to give feedback to a story draft?
I have no friend nor family.
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>>7347665
If you want your story to only be appealing to robots, sure.
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>>7347665
Anon, there's no "intelligence" there. It's essentially just an advanced form of predictive text (when you type something and it finishes the query based on past input). You won't get anything other than sweet little lies.
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>>7347665
Only if you want it to sanitize it for liberals and remove all soul
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>>7347668
>>7347669
Kinda this. It's okay for helping you flesh out ideas with suggestions, or maybe adding in some filler, but I wouldn't necessarily go to it for critique as it won't really help you find your own way or style of writing, it'll just kinda mold you into what it thinks is successful and good.
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>>7347665
Let's be real nigger:
Can anyone raise their hand and say they asked their family to their draft?
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>>7346779
I feel you man. But it'll feel worse the longer you take to get good at it. I know I'm still young but being 24 and still stuck as a broke neet when I've been wanting to get good at drawing but just haven't in 4 years since I was supposed really put an effort in. Most of it is because of not having any where to actually do so and any breaks that I take ending up much longer than they should from my fucked up sense of time but I really can't excuse it, I could've just drawn on my bed or the floor even if it is uncomfortable to do so and I am doing so now. But it makes me upset that I could've already been good at it and maybe stopped being a shut in years ago if I put in the effort and just did it. Even when things feel like utter shit don't stop and keep at it. Find as many things as you can to improve and learn and use a bunch of different drawing apps and such if your going digital to see what works for you. For the longest time I used ibisart and until recently just thought I sucked at digital art compared to paper. Turns out once I started using clip studio that ibis is either a shit app or not for my style of drawing because I was so much better when I used clip. I really should have fucked around with apps more because I ended up losing motivation for a few months from how shit my digital stuff was when it ended up turning out that the app I used just wasn't working out. Probably could've goten better at this last year if thought of that.
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>>7347704
10 years my junior, don't waste your 20s doing drugs and partying like me. Draw nigger, draw. Im still beg at my age, but I'm consistent enough to draw my first first manga.
Also video games were my biggest waste of time behind cocaine.
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>>7347788
I still think about where my art would be had I never discovered dota 2
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>>7347820
hoho haha
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Been 1 year since last time I drew a page
Found an ad looking for drawings but halfway through the portfolio-making I saw that the ad was expired.
Gonna go back to doing nothing
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is there a zero to hero manga drawing book or course?
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>>7347863
The monkey one has the wise teaching of
>Just learn to do the faces, the rest can be traced
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>>7347699
I bounce ideas off my wife, but since she is not the target audience her feedback is negligible
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>>7345015
How would you do it traditionally?
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>>7347901
I don't know, I'm not very experienced at drawing trad.
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>>7347699
My wife is my editor for all my drafts. I submit my writing and it comes back drowned in red, and then I incorporate the changes so long as it doesn't change the feeling of a scene or how a character should act in this situation.
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>>7347622
>>7347651
Gonna redraw attention to these. The question got buried kinda quick
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>>7348063
Well, then I take back what I said. Care to link me to anything you've released? Or are you a regular here already I might know?
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>>7348074
I put up artwork here from time to time, and it's likely you've heard of me (not because I am particularly skilled or noteworthy in any way, but simply because /mmg/ is so small). I'll post more work later on at some point.
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Has anyone from these threads found success in the SMA?
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Finished page 50 of Chapter 4 just in time for Halloween, on to page 51. May tweak further upon second review when all the pages are finished.
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>>7347788
>Also video games were my biggest waste of time
I wish I could still play video games instead of endless doomscrolling.
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>>7348222
I have a group of steam friends I've been playing with for 20 years now. I would probably just lurk or draw if not for them.
It's a double edged sword, but it's nice to have a focus group to bounce my art/ideas off, and all it takes is a few games of Deadlock or CS a night
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>>7348085
Well I'm curious to see what someone besides pornanons work who "technically" has an editor.
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>>7348263
All I'll say is that I didn't adhere to my editor more fully and reader feedback confirmed that she was in the right, mimicking her exact criticisms. So I've adhered to her redlining more strictly in subsequent chapters and readers have said they liked the dialogue a lot more.
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>>7348273
I might need to start dating again. I need honest feedback from someone who knows at least their fundies. This place is quite literally the only place I get any constructive feedback from, since all my friends have zero art knowledge.
Does your wife have a sister?
That lives in California?
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>>7347665
it's a /beg/ at writing to it can also only give /beg/ advice.
In fact it's worse at advice giving, since the sample size of good outline analysis is small.
It'll favor slop, as AI always does.
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>>7347622
I get that impression too, like my drawings are too smooth and look like a coloring book. Getting the effect of a scratchy pencil or pen is hard.
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>>7348415
Okay, good to know I'm not going crazy..

Lately I've been liking the imperfect look of somewhat messy lines and CSP is just oddly stabilized. You just aren't getting a 1 for 1 with your movements I don't think.
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I suck at drawing people, and no matter how many times I draw them, they always end up super stiff and with a very sketchy style. I don’t know how to improve it. I hope that by just drawing more and more pages, I'll eventually iron out these kinds of mistakes.
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>>7348551
You have to turn off the stabilizer in your csp settings and also in your brush setting.
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>>7348222
You should play street fighter 6
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do you plan out a page completely before you draw it, or do you wing it?

I always find myself taking an hour or two longer than anticipated because I have to edit and fix and change and try new things even though I had a comprehensive sketch and layout. So I'm starting to think that planning out the page is not worth it because the plan fails anyways.
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>>7348573
Wait, is there a general stabilizer outside of the brush settings? I'm about to feel real silly if that's the case
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>>7348273
Is your wife single?
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>>7348555
I don't think this is bad at all. Would read
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>>7348775
Planning and drawing one page of storyboard needs to be done in less than 10 min.
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>>7348117
Monotone is currently publishing in Japan
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>>7348862
Are you serious? It takes me 15 minutes at least to plan the boxes, figure out where people are going, writing the text, formatting the bubbles. But maybe I am just slow when being creative,, it takes another 15 minutes to make it dynamic and good since the first storyboard is usually garbage.
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It seems the Vatican to counter sedevacant Madalena they have created an waifu too... Just want to say mine is cuter.
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>>7348921
Train with this
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing
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>>7348921
It's shenanigans. Watch some artists who livestream their workflow and you'll see even the best will take some time on their layout, posing, etc. You'll get better and quicker at it as you go, but just keep doing what you're doing. Hell, some middle of the road, popular webcomic artists take an entire week for one page.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7dmKLQOSvQk&pp=ygUKWW9zaGlrYWR1IA%3D%3D
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>>7349035
In the video you posted the author finished the layout of 2 pages under the first 60s (without the speed up it's at best 2 min.)
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>>7349047
I guess hes experienced enough to just go with his gut instinct and draw the first thing that comes to his mind

>>7348991
this is a good idea, thanks. I realize I need mileage so I can start being repetitive with paneling.
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>>7343026
Shihei Lin is looking for assistants for a new serialization in Shonen Jump+
for author Agasa Reiji.
It's a remote job.
https://ganmo.j-comi.co.jp/posts/detail/23555
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>>7349047
What are you talking about? It takes him over ten minutes to do the rough clean up on that page and we don't even see how long it takes him doing the initial planning or initial drawing
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>>7349070
>the rough clean
We were talking about the layout/composition, not the full finished drawing to ink
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>>7348945
That fumo looking bitch cant compare to Madalena's faith.
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>>7349085
there's an actual clock on the left that shows realtime how long he takes, which is ~ just under 15 minutes before he locks in the panels and starts the roughs.

Like with the other anon, im sure he's already planned the entire chapter's beats as well. I can't imagine inking pages 2 at a time without doing the layout for the whole chpt, or at least a good feeling what the next two pages are, or at least a feeling of where the beats are in the manuscript. Then again, this guy has been serialised since 2007, so maybe it's second nature at that point.

His linework is pretty intensive, so it explains why it still takes him more than ~16 hours with breaks to finish the two pages, but yeah, 30 pages a month is still no joke
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>>7343326
This is outstanding, you've perfectly captured the eastern style here. If you're having trouble with the story, I recommend that you start cutting up the boring/difficult stuff right away until you end up with something very simple and with little plotholes. Less is more, do not waste too much time on worldbuilding, try to come up with a solid series of events and keep the world's details vague. If you get stuck, it might just be better to skip to the exciting parts. The reader's imagination will fill up the holes better than you ever could, and it's simply impossible to meet everyone's expectations anyway.
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>>7349035
Wow, ~16 hours non-stop for just two pages. I had no ideia manga could be this grueling.
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>>7347665
Ì find that you can use ChatGPT by giving it a rough outline of characters, plot, some world building, then you ask it for input on the parts you're struggling with and most of the time you'll think something along the lines of "wait no, that's not how it should be, it should be live xyz"et voilla, you came to an answer of your own simply by getting dogshit feedback from a chatbot.

It is honestly better than asking a rando from your friend circle who's just going to give non-descript feedback, but you should never 1:1 apply what GPT says.
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Suddenly had a pseudo 4koma manga idea

>Panel 1: One blood raven chaplain walking to some Black Templars
>Panel 2: "Aw shit raise the voxcomm, bloody magpies are coming who knows what they'll ta-" "Hold brother, he is approaching our apothecary. Let us see what he asks."
>Panel 3: Blood raven raises his arms
>Panel 3.5: Templar apothecary raises his arms, but now is in blood raven colors while still wearing templar designs
>Panel 4: "YOU WOLOLOLING SON OF A *BITCH*!!!! GET HIM!"

Thank you all for coming to my ted talk.
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>>7348555
Based on your image, your characters look good enough.
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>>7344810
sketch for next page
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>>7349710
This. Depending on what you use it for it can be of great help. It can give you plot ideas and I actually get good feedback from it whenever I tell my stories to the bot.
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>Have a draft/storyboard for a page ready
>Expected to finish at least the linework for it tonight
>3 hours later and I don't even have a single panel finished
I thought having a draft ready would be enough to speed up the proccess but I was so fucking wrong... Seriously, the biggest lesson I've learned from manga making is that nothing ever go as planned. Pic unrelated
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>>7349505
Speed isn't as important as actually finishing something. Speed will come in time, the real trick is following through.
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What are some solid resources for drawing cities/city buildings/rooms/landscapes for manga?

I want to get better at backgrounds instead of drawing characters in a void.
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>>7350622
I draw then really cartoony, like the 90s shows I watched. Rokoko anon drew alot of them well, but I haven't seen him in a while
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>>7344483
And here's the final product. Screentones are fun.
For my next project I will copy some actual manga instead of this stylized version of it
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>>7350622
Pick panels you like and practice drawing them. Keep doing it until you get a sense of how things should be and look based on the civilization you are trying to do. I used to hate architecture and now drawing nice backgrounds is my favorite thing to do.
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>>7350947
Nta but I kneel
How long did it take you to make that one?
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>>7350622
>>7350947
Or use Photoshop or CSP if you think the perspective on certain photo looks way better in the photo than being drawn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1TyYMcea-0
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>>7350964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdp2zLEQ_Ig
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>>7350964
>>7350975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T54s2oM5fkA And in CSP pro if you're a poor fag.
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>>7350958
The one I posted earlier was a study from a panel in Otoyomegatari. I wanted something that was pretty enough from an architecture study standpoint and with enough details to work on as well. This one took me about a day to do, working on and off (not all in one go). This next pic I got here which I'm going to throw into my manga at some point (because why waste previously done work) took me about two days to do - again on and off.

>>7350964
Photo conversion works too, you see mangakas do that all the time. Just depends on time crunch and personal preference. I just really like drawing my own backgrounds.
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>>7350978
I like to draw my own backgrounds too, but if I feel the background is going to be way more detailed than I thought, I use the photo conversion. But then I ink traditionally so is a pain to ink all the details in the photos.
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>>7351033
I'm drawing a fantasy world, so I'm forced to draw my own stuff. In a way I'm glad that this is the case, as it forced me to get better at it.
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>>7350978
Your architecture always looks good anon, really sets the scene in your work.
My story moved out of the country and into the city, so I'm going to be drawing a lot more industrial and office buildings, and I wish I had more room for crazy design.
But then I guess it's really just up to one's imagination, I can focus less of the architecture, and more on interior decoration.

I also killed 16 Chechens single handed
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>>7351117
I do like your comic, anon. You've got that cartoony feel going on for it and it works really well IMHO. No need to go crazy with the details.
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Chapter 1 title page ink done.
Titles are the only thing I do in color, and I'm not looking forward to that. Props to those of you that actually do color through and through.
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>>7351045
Same, I can draw trees and rocks all day but buckle the moment I have to use the perspective ruler.
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Back again with more
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>>7351526
Trad ver
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>>7348991
>back in the day
"30 seconds!? I can't even get half the gesture with that!"
>now
"30 seconds? Not too bad, I can get the gesture and maybe even some of the detail. "

It's wild when you suddenly realize how far you've come and how something that used to be a pain is actually fun and relaxing. Didn't use this too often though, but the pencil mileage finally kicked in it seems..
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>>7351541
>>7351526
There is something really wrong with your scan
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Can you tell these are panty hose?



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