If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artmangapose.comline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.>Cool teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru Hayashi>Cool booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7346077
huston or hogarth or hampton
>>7348759Hamm
practiced hand and using pressure settings in drawing appperspective looks off in several places, not worth continuing
>>7348746
Shell shock
>>7348835Not necessarily. Using vanishing points derived from the station point ensures accurate perspective for **cuboids (rectangular prisms)** when viewed from a specific angle. However, the angles will appear 90 degrees in perspective only if the station point and vanishing points are set correctly relative to the horizon and the viewer's eye level.If your vanishing points are too close together or not aligned properly, the boxes might look distorted, and the angles won't maintain the appearance of right angles.Having a solid understanding of perspective drawing can help you ensure your boxes retain their intended shapes. Also, your left box is fucked up.
>>7348848
>>7348759Vilppu, Huston, Nicolaides
>only 8 replies in 3 hours/ic/ is official dead, isn't it
Done. It took me a good while but I think she turned out pretty cute and I managed to learn a bunch about rendering so I'm happy about itAny criticism is welcome!
>>7348875What's wrong with the left boxAlso the vanishing points are derived from the station point, this is the only way they could be, you sound like chatgpt
whats the most effective way to do a master study?
>>7348477
>>7348933If you leave the dotted area your boxes will distort and break the illusion, if you're going for 2 point perspective, stick with the area inside it.>>7348938By drawing. Try imagining what the artist did and draw. When you fuck up, and you will, ask for advice on how to get closer to it, which usually involves FOCUSED practice. Stop trying to get ready and just do it already.>>7348759All of them. Pick every single book and draw as much as you can from it, chances are you'll find your answer after you rotate between them.>>7348919Except Nicolaides, Nicolaides is a meme.>>7348927Good job, looks lively. But I hate the smudged 2005 Photoshop painting, but that's just me. I do recommend trying to add hard edges though, especially for the background stuff so it doesn't look like painted clouds out there. Also try to make the darker parts darker cause everything is pretty much all the same color on the right part (farthest from the light source). The light source thing is also weird cause it seems like it's coming form the front but shadow goes to the back, but we can call that artistic license.
>>7349006Fucked up, meant to say the light source looks like it's coming from the back and the shadow is going to their back as well. Shadow also seems too big and dramatic to the scene, you could make it smaller.
i know im probably doing everything wrong but i genuinely find bridgman so fun to drawi hope by the time i'm actually good at art and finished with his books i have at least some aspects of his style in my own work
Day 28 complete!
>>7348756
>>7349133Did you just trace that image on a /v/ thread?
>>7349141no i copied it
Copied this piece for practice:https://x.com/Cute_Morbidly/status/1828609779855724969
anon i... i think it's all was a lie. my skill of observation is about zero, i can't see anything. krenzfags and tradchads were right about everything. and so my fate is being symbol-drawing constructoid.
>>7349165Such is the fate of a soulless aphantasic talentless permaprebeg greysketchcel.
>>7349174Cut off your fingers and tongue, rat carrion, you have no merit and you are no different from him, this is not your merit and not his mistakes.
Talented spawn of cattle have nothing to be proud of, this is not their merits
>>7348756I want to feel 3d form like vilppu says but I can't. I know the bottom figure is wrong. It's just like that howie comic. It's too esoteric to me. What should I do?
>>7349205Just keep doing it. You'll literally be able to feel the forms if you keep repetitively drawing things in perspective. You'll train your brain to start treating a 2d surface like a 3d space. The hard part is pushing through the self doubt. You have a decent grasp from what I can see, just keep on keeping on. Trust the process.
I have been procastrinating on drawing for a month now. Should i finally do it today?I really should shouldn't i.
>>7349207Thanks. Wish I understand 3d someday.
>>7349209keep the streak going bro stay strong
>>7348786the character design looks cool>>7348927looks pretty good>>7348948the hand on the top is not very anatomically correct but it's kinda cool>>7349133>>7349160would>>7349222the west has fallen
Doodling from imagination but with love. The nipple is probably meant to be misplaced but in the end i wanted to expose that bitch
Today my beg army loli practiced marching
I want to be a GMI but i'm just not.
>>7348903Nice, very alive.
>>7349006>Nicolaides is a memeNah
>dream about drawing>don't actually draw
>>7349255The lore deepens
finally good-looking one-eyebut horrible arm
>>7349398ref
Femele body
>>7349398>>7349447Nice work anon.
>>7349240>not very anatomically correctcould you be more specific? Are there skin folds missing or is the curvature of some finger segments off? Anything like that?
are art books a meme? I've only read hampton and part of loomis fig drawing, but it seems like the only thing they give is reference material. The words on the page are obvious at best, for example on a page of loomis:"every good action pose should have a suggestion of 'sweep.' Perhaps I can best describe sweep by saying that the movement which immediately precedes the pose is still felt..."" blah blahIt just seems so vague and intuitive. Are people getting anything out of books other than thru copying?
I hope for your sake that this is bait
>>7349524who are you replying to
Michael Vandruff has a video series on perspective from 1994. You think it's worth a watch 30 years later for $12? His new stuff is probably 20x as expensive
>>7349561no just watch thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50XAa3AOihc
>>7349561I could put it on my mega if you want.
>>7349561I've watched it, it's not worth $12you can find the same info and more for free on youtube
>>7349205keep exactly doing what you're doing anon, one day it will make click, you just need mileage
I'm tired of being a permabegshitter bros...
>>7349594white woman natural posture
>>7349594You're almost there, just a little bit more...
>>7349579Okay, so everything is just a box with it's own set of three vanishing points. The environment that contains everything is a box, a human being in it's entirety is a box, a human head is a box. Guess drawabox isn't a meme.>>7349584You can upload if you like. Might have something interesting in it.
>>7349609a human being is a bunch of boxes all with their own respective perspective just like the headevery part of the body that can move independently will usually be in its own perspective because of this
where does the line go between pre-beg and beg. how can you know?
>>7349618Talent, unironically.The ones who "make it" dont have to spend years grinding lines and cubes and shit to force their untalented brains to hallucinate spatial recognition in the paper.The ones with potential already can draw in 3d. You will find tons of artists who abuse optical illusions to mimic perspective but they dont understand it. They are literally just trying to use a flat 2d canvas as if it were a CAD because they are doomed to fail.GMIs can make 2d look 3d. NGMIs just force 3d into 2d. Also accuracy. Look at the works of children and preteens trying to enter russian art academies and they can xerox complex machinery and intricate masonry with just paper and pencil.Permabegs will use shit like grids, construction, rulers and even tracing to mimic a fraction of their talent.If you can't copy accurately without any of these crutches then you are FUCKED.May as well trace over 3d or ai.There is nothing wrong with it. Nyantcha , several mangakas and Dishwasher trace over 3d models and they have huge followings and influence.
>>7349643Add asian jeans and this will be an excellent pasta.
>>7349649Nothing about that is pasta.Look at permabegtards like Pawell who "grind" but cant copy a line to save their own life. They are doomed.Have you seen him try to draw machines and vehicles? their perspective comes out as some eldritch shit that seems wrong in a mindfucking way.You have seen him draw for YEARS, DAILY, entire sheets that have gotten him anywhere.If you cant copy accurately without crutches you are fucked and will always be NGMI.
>>7349643okay I see. I just draw for fun. I'll get there when i get there
>>7349512I can get the vagueness, but obvious? Also, why are you people so afraid of drawing? You think people one day just sort of figure it out and draw only "from imagination"? The best artists are those who copy the most all the time because why not? Stop running from drawing and just do it. And if you're good enough to just completely ignore the best teaching material out there, just do it?>>7349594The best advice begs can take is learning how to quickly simplify and using guidelines for landmarks. Take your time using only very simple lines, compare width and length while checking positions. If you go too detailed too soon, you'll lose the chance of correcting it early on. Start constructing using shapes for the torso and head, then simplify arms to lines on a joint. Only then think of forms.I'm fond of the block-in method called enveloping, see this James Gurney blog post about it.http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/2008/08/drawing-made-easy.html
>Just draw>Drawing Is not a talent>Have fun>Keep practicing and you will get better over time
>>7349657Not all pastas are untrue, it just reads like one.
>>7349662>Only do the equivalent to warmups>WTF WHY CAN'T I RUN A MARATHON YET??? WHY IS THIS SO BORING???
>>7349657b-but what about m-meee?
>>7349662this doesn't count; you'll only start to get good after grinding your five thousandth floating loomis heads
>Pull out paper and pencil>This time, I'm gonna learn!>Get stuck between copying things I like to learn or going with absolute fundamentals>Get overwhelmed and drop itIs there a way to break this cycle? There's too many conflicting sources on what the "right" way to learn is.
I can't even draw a perfectly straight line. It's so over.On a more serious note, thoughts about using rulers for setting up guidelines for proportions? Is that a cheat?
Should i draw this >>7347398 girl or the Vatican mascot? Too tired to do both today
>>7349688warm up with something easydraw rocks or treesthen amp up the difficulty
>>7349690there is no need to limit yourself
>>7349692Both. Have her drinking the beer.
>>7349694Trees and rocks at what level of detail? Some leaves? Every leaf? Baby elementary school trees just to get something on paper?
>>7346886
Someone define soul to me
>>7349772It's a meaningless word like beg and int
>>7349398not bad, but why not use the hatching to accentuate/imply the shapes?
Starting to develop x-ray vision so I can I can imagine lum naked (for purely artistic reasons).
steaming tranime shit inboundthoughts on the linework?>>7349811nice, does that mean you can draw clothes without autistically perfecting the naked body underneath first? I wish I could
How do I draw from my elbow while maintaining control of finer details? It DOES make the lines more confident, but it also makes me totally lose control of everything. It's like hovering your arm and moving your elbow, right? Like washing a window? That's how my friend described it to me.
>>7349400Who dis
>>7349696Idk if I should keep working on this it's kinda bad
I want to improve my watercolor and gouache skills as well as my general rendering/color skills, I think the best way would be to do live and photo studies, like still life but I’m not sure how to approach this or if this in itself is enough to get better at it. Any really good YouTubers/tutorials you would recommend for this?An example of where my gouache skills are at.
>>7349661I'm the first guy you responded toI didn't mean I draw from imagination, quite the contrary, I only draw from reference. But from the people I've seen here talking about learning from book, it seems you're just paying (or pirating) to have some extra referencesthe loomis proportion guide is cool, but when the fig gets foreshortened and stuff it doesn't seem as useful. And when you actually approach foreshortening, I feel you would already have a grasp of what is and isn't attractive
>>7349838it has sovl
>>7349765you captured his essence very well
>>7349838Blegh
The Loomis method the biggest beg bait ever?
So I finally beat my depression and have a healthy routine with drawing after years and I have some questionsAm I doing it right?>started with Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain from Betty Edwards>spent years just doing this and experimenting with painting by myself and had some fun>Started gesture drawing by Michael Hampton and it was very greatIt all made me realize that I can copy anything I can see, but it's not enough, I need construction.>Jumped into Draw a Box and Dynamic Sketching 1 with Peter HanDraw a Box had some good exercises about warmups, but I dropped it later. Peter Han was fun, made me finally give true form and texture to my sketches when I'm sketching, but was not exactly the construction I wanted in depth.>Skipped into Loomis headIt's working, but not how I wish it was, reading it is somehow a pain in the ass for me but I'm doing what I can.I know that I have a problem with finishing some books and video courses.But how would you judge this path?>Draw a Box warm ups and pencil holding>Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain from Betty Edwards until perspective>Dynamic Sketching 1 by Peter Han>[Maybe some perspective book]>Loomis Head and Hands>Gesture Drawing by Michael Hampton>Anatomy For Sculptors
>>7349900no but you have to use it with reference until you master it.
The Rizzler
>>7349942This is so good, I like it
>>7349947Thanks anon! Trying to keep it simple
How the FUCK do you draw a girl in this pose? I even took a picture of myself as reference but it didn't help cause I need to be naked to get the ass right
got bored of boxes, what do you guys think?
>>7349987That's actually pretty good. There are still perspective errors but you're getting close to them being negligible. You should definitely hit up the /mg/ thread.
>>7349987very nice, keep it up
>>7349839Perhaps it might be better to ask for good references with dramatic lighting that are small enough to not be overwhelming so you can study those fast and get a lot out of smaller portions. Like, a corner instead of the whole street.
>>7349987Did you use a ref for these?
>>7350002That's funny anon
>>7350004Take it as a compliment. Those two on the right are excellent designs to come from imagination, simple sketches, sure, but intricate. I don't know if I could draw anything similar off the dome.
Been having a lot of trouble keeping up with doing drawing exercises, drawing simple objects like coffee cups from life, freehand tracing drawings that I've turned upside down etc. But earlier today I tried out doing some oekaki, from reference, with an old Wacom tablet, and it was kinda fun I suppose. Will doing this daily actually help me improve, or is this pointless?
>>7349987agree w the other anon, if these are from imagination you are very creative
>>7350032Drawing constantly, even mindlessly, will help establish muscle memory. Just make sure that as you go you are learning from recognizable mistakes, understanding how shapes fit together to create what it is you're drawing, and be willing to actually learn techniques when it's time to actually become a strong artist.
>>7349994>>7349999>>7350002>>7350026>>7350035thanks a lot, yeah I used reference for the ones in the right
>>7350040Here's some drawings I did from life last month, and a cat drawn without reference. Since then I have drawn very little until today. I feel like I'm at a stage when it's generally boring to draw, and that I can't get much use out of any actual technique because my skills are so extremely basic.Anyway, how do I know that I've gotten good enough to actually start looking into proper techniques like trying to draw stuff from imagination by drawing basic shapes? By the way, using the tablet feels a bit strange and slippery, I have really only been drawing with pencil before. It's an Intuos 3, it's a really old model but I got it for cheap, and it kinda fits with the style I want to get into.
What is a simple way to learn coloring and color theory? I've tried to watch tutorials but they take half an hour talking and don't explain anything. I want to know what colors I have to use to make the shadows, how to texture, and all that. I like how my portrait turned out but I hate the color version.
Did this in 20 mins yesterday in a thread.Tried really hard to stay in the 30 minute space. The character I did with it is hidden
Has anyone done any Coloso courses like Mogoon or Chyan? Would they be helpful for someone who has been drawing for a year but feels like they haven't improved nearly as much as they could have?Like, I feel like I have a very base understanding of stuff like perspective, lighting, etc, but it's all so elementary that I can't apply it very well
>>7349855In my opinion, drawing from reference and studying from a book are usually not the same thing. I'm not saying Loomis or Hampton are perfect, but their books are highly regarded for a reason. If you're an actual /int/ and you can draw pretty well without studying from books, then why would you even care? I usually skim art books looking for interesting things that may catch me, gather them and try to apply to drawing; once I'm done, I can come back and check if I didn't get anything wrong. If whatever I'm trying to do still makes absolutely no sense, then I try to read the book starting from there and going back and fourth on the pages looking for the information to make sense out of it. Most books out there are 99% the same thing and I see people fighting over what is best or not, without ever drawing anything and then blaming the books for not solving their complete lack of effort to change. Art books are there so you can dialogue with them and copying is a learning technique as old as Christ, and it just works. The question is why you're picking up these books for? Are you good enough but still want to improve? Are you looking for a specific thing to improve like foreshortening? I don't think books are that reference heavy either, nowadays you can search on Pixiv, Gumroad or whatever and find a billion of high quality images to copy from. The issue is what you can or not do with those references and books usually teach you what and how. So first specify your issues and goals and decide what you need or want, otherwise, there's not much else I can tell you. If you have the money, paying for a teacher would be valuable, but I never did it so I can't help you there.
>>7350074You waste too much time on small strokes. If you want to paint faster you need to learn how to place down more information with larger strokes and what visual information is most important. The only part of your painting that should taken up most of your time is your sandcastle as that is your focal point then maybe the umbrella as the secondary focal point.
>>7350101My work space is small. But I'll keep that in mind.
>>7349909Invert the path and it would be amazing, also, post your work, please.>>7349978Use an actual girl as reference.Stop trying to draw without guidelines.Find the top of the head and bottom of feet and connect them using the action line of the pose. Find the middle of that and see how it relates to the crotch, when you have all that you can start finding the rest of the proportions very quickly and avoid drawing a formless monster. Also, find some material on proportions like Loomis' Figure Drawing For All It's Worth if you have no idea of what I'm talking about.>>7349987Draw through, anon.>>7350058Practice with a pencil more first if the tablet is alien (You should do it even if it were second nature). The best advice you can get right now is to try to simplify things into simple forms and sketch lightly before making darker lines. If you're bored by drawing, find something that does not bore you out. I never get tired of drawing boobs. You have to improve your arm movements to draw better looking curves and straights, those matter.>>7350062Good question. I'm terrible with color so I'll just say what works for me: stop trying to figure it out by yourself. If you can find the right colors from the start from the wheel, you're a fucking genius. Start by using references and seeing what other people do, use the color picker in their works and see what colors they use. There's hundreds of tutorials out there1 that literally give you the colors, just pick them and try to make some sense out of them. I've been recommended James Gourney's books a thousand times already, so I tell you to just bite the bullet and just read it (Properly, not passively, while drawing), it explains a lot.1^ https://i.pinimg.com/originals/89/4d/33/894d33e0e19dac8c9f6f788d24430931.jpg
face needs depth
sort of an odd concept, taking Bugs Bunny's gauche 1950's beach style into the 2000's... I think his palm should be lower, and I don't see what the original sketch was indicating about his left thumb.
I may have made her too muscular idk
Something is wrong with her back, but probably the best horse ive ever drawn. The worst is that i didnt use methods for the animal, just flow with the gestures. Probably a stroke of luck
>>7350138she looks like a fun ride.
>>7350128Post it
>>7350128radical
I CANT FUCKING DRAW
>>7350148the original is from a clipshow from the 1950's, I don't know the exact year.https://youtu.be/EdZ10NI5Mrw?feature=shared&t=564In my sketch he's just wearing oakleys and those flame shorts, maybe I could've added tribal tatts or something
>>7350161Post your work or else we won't know how to help you!!!
I am uninspired. Give me a sexy halloween costume to draw.
>>7350130Nah.t. Muscular woman enjoyer.
>>7350206Flatwoods Monster.
>>7350212>Look it upWhy
>>7350213If you make it sexy you can call it the hardwoods monster.
>>7350206hotdog costume
>>7350111>find some material on proportions like Loomis' Figure Drawing For All It's Worth if you have no idea of what I'm talking about.Thanks anon. Oh and the pose I posted is different from your pic btw. She's not walking, just resting her weight on one leg while cooking.
I tidied up my Lum a bit. Did I remove all of the soul from it?
>>7349400
I cant just keep drawing only naked women forever but why is fabric so hard?
>>7350243you need to understand that fabric wraps around the body, think of structure and the shapes. Draw more naked body before going fabric.
>>7349987two new ones, this time no ref>>7350112>>7350118>>7350128these are awsome
>>7350240Some of her hair went missing in the remaster process. This is worse than those DBZ blu-rays.
>>7350248Cock machineguns go hard.
>>7349987These are nice and a great way to practice perspective but work on your cylinders. Try to think of the cylinders as stemming from the boxes as opposed to completely different shapes
>>7350248now create the same without using reference.
>>7350252>>7350253pyc
>>7350252yeah, I've always struggled with cylinders, thanks for the tip>>7350253I said I didnt use reference?
Scarecrow should've been more of a paranormal character, like not entirely human and maybe with shifting proportions. Or maybe I'm coping.
>>7350248very coolas a mental workout, now draw them from below
>>7350258fantastic, if you did that without reference. Now pick one of your favorite shapes, and add details. I look forward to a complete piece.
>>7350263that sounds hard, I'll do it tomorow, it's late here>>7350276thanks, I have no idea what I'll do but I'll do it on the one that the other anon said has cock machine guns
Question: does this read so far?
>>7350248>these are awsomethanks but my scanner appeared to blow Bugs' head way up, and the pose was odd to begin with. If I ever get a lightweight 11x17" scanner it'll be the best thing I own.
>>7350290Great! Look froward to the cock machine guns! Complete work!
>>7350074
>>7350311Very nice
Finally gave in on reading Loomis and holy shit, I wish I had done it sooner. The opening chat alone won me over. So many things he talks about are all things I keep seeing people ask in here over and over again.
Don't get it. Arm is flat. No depth.
>>7349240Thanks!!>>7349006>>7349012>smudged 2005 Photoshop paintingLol its true lmao.I'll be honest I dislike a bit how it looks so smudged too, but I didn't had the expertise or knowledge to do it differently so I just treated it like a learning process. I have a few artists bookmarked that render stuff really well and I want to study and dissect what they do to achieve that same look. Also i do have to be more careful with the cast shadows. I didn't thought too much about them just added them at the end which I think is not a good way to go about it. Thanks a lot for the criticism, will take notice and try to fix them for the next drawing.
>>7350318gmi
I have so many references that I want to use that I'm stuck deciding which one I want to go with as the base
>>7348756Too frustrated from studying body anatomy. Decided to do a comfort drawing to remind myself I can still create something cute. Fuck I wish I only had to do portraits.
>>7350311It's lost it's soul
>>7350362the eyes are slightly too high in that loomis copy
>>7350367shit you're right
>>7350331My comfort drawing is copying anime girls standing or doing an uncomplicated pose at a 3/4 angle. The head tends to look a bit like a symbol drawing and I unable to fully visualize how the head connects to the neck. Obvious answer is Loomis but I want to draw them standing anime girls.
>>7350311I didn't really plan on spending a lot of time on that image. It was just for a thread. But maybe I should try and clean it up
Look like the Rizzler?
>>7350367How about now? Also fixed the lips
>>7349942Dancer
Sketching . Good or bad .
Jungle soldier dude
>>7350442Placement of eyes seems off, mouth looks kind of perculiar.
>>7350442bad
>>7349400I'm in love bros
god printing paper is so fucking bad, fuck all cunts who say it doesn't matter it does matter, this fucking shit paper is so fucking bad
i love loomis so much bros.>>7350428nice painting anon, i cannot render like you. if you want to check your accuracy, try overlaying your drawing over Loomis' drawing. that's how I've been studying proportions lately
>>7350050cool ref
>>7349006>If you leave the dotted area your boxes will distort and break the illusion, if you're going for 2 point perspective, stick with the area inside it.but it literally looks fine?
damn this 2 point perspective thing is complicated
oc redraw frm like 3 yrs back to today
I both want to step out of my comfort zone and draw different subjects in different perspectives and also keep drawing big tiddie'd anime girls in very thin bikinis in the same poses
>>7350566fixed a couple of issues and added a little dude for scale
>>7350634that looks great. Reminds me of Sinix
more folds
Tiny steps.Trying to get back to my previous level.
>>7349205Trying to feel the forms.I have a question. Do you guys imagine 3d surface/forms while you draw? I just kept copying shapes untill now. Maybe this is why I can't draw 3D.
>>7350713yes. At some point you become familiar enough with the forms you're working with you just skip the process of construction and you can just trace the contours of the form you're imagining.
>can't draw bodies from weird angles without rotating the refSo, if you want to draw a lying person, then you need to imagine it standing or smth and draw as usual.
>>7350730
>>7350260https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aZMAVEAPQI
Ubergigahyperbeg, how should i grip my pencil? What feels most natural for me isn't doing the trick. It feels cumbersome, tiring, and it looks retarded as fuck.None of the bet books touch on that either. Please, help.
>>7350777You look like the kinda guy to draw Rosechu.
>>7350777Practice tripod and overhand
>>7350779Im what way?
>>7350634Draw dewd taller by two
>>7350777NGMI
>>7350804Nvm just kill yourself now
>>7350807I'm being serious.Like do i just go about practice like i usually would but with those grips in mind, or do i do like a specific set of symbols to get used to them?I'm not a howie i'm just not good with vague answers.
how do i stop feeling handicapped when draw digitally
>>7350825Get an anti-retard feeling "vaccine"
legs turned out to be difficult to draw, I can't feel these muscles and the structure... I also tried to draw Artoria using the loomis method, it turned out terribly
Today my beg army loli took part in field first aid exercise.
>>7350856
>>7350856you need to see your mistakes to fix them, draw much biggerlike 3 to 5 legs per page
>>7350871Each time they are devects in general or in particular
>>7350807>>7350808So...?
>>7350842ohoho, gottem.
this is a first for me, but, for whatever reason, i just forgot how to paint or draw?????????like, it's been two days already, i just can't paint or draw shit, it always a horrible start and i try to fix it, but it's complete poop
Gonna speedpaint this. Does this skull looks ok?
>>7350875Yes nigga just use tripod and overhand while you draw depending on what feels better, overhand for shading and large soft hand movements and tripod for precision
>>7350896cool drawingI think the brow ridge might be protruding a bit too muchthe perspective on the lower body seems funky, idk
>>7350730>>7350762Beautiful work anon
>>7350896the brow ridge looks a little too harsh for a female skull, there is something zygomatic that looks round.
>>7350062I improved it a bit
>>7350909>niggaYou can literally see how pasty white my hand is in the pic.Otherwise, thanks. I'll just try to copy some cool stuff with those grips for the next few days.
>>7350896>>7350913> brow ridge I wanted to convey a somewat evil looking skull but I guess I did too much
>>7350861Light is too low saturated. Other than that keep it up and you'll improve soon.
>>7350442Why does she have a circle on her nose
finally can go to fap
>>7351114very cute i rike
>>7351144im not even trying to be mean, but this is repulsive.
>>7351177that's why he's here. to get advice on how to do better.
>>7351144This is no good, but i'm worse so y'know.
>>7351180>to get advice on how to do better.kek
>>7348756Finally done!
Is the perspective okay here?
Is it advisable for a beginner to use liquify tool while practicing?
>>7351188Kek those legs
>>7351226Nose needs to be rounded at the tip...
How am i doing?
>>7350777I hold the tool with my fingers relaxed. Your default position should be relaxed. Just practice strokes everyday. You need the muscles to understand what you mean them to do and be able to coordinate with your eye. Straight, line, elipses, circles and trace over finished work.
god, just thinking that i need to polish and render some small things on this makes me wanna off myselfAAAAAAAAAAAH GOD, WHY DO YOU HATE US
>>7349665I did nothing but warmups past three weeks trying to get my accuracy down as well as speed.
>>7351322why did you choose the gayest ref possible
>>7351312Looking good, just write "PLAP!" everywhere and then you might as well open a patreon.
>>7351338cuz i only have painted woman, so i tried painting MEN, then i noticed i sucked at it, then i decided i wanna practice painting MEN and also cuz im feeling kinda gay today
>>7351349you couldn't find a guy doing a less gay pose?
>>7351349i'm seriously thinking on abandoning this shit, desu. lighting sucks and the anatomy is making so much noise on the values
>>7351144
>>7351352nope, can you send me a better one maybe ><
>>7351188Based, good work.t. yuri enjoyer.
>>7348756>try drawing a new original illustration>struggle on one part>get references>nothing helps but just tracing a reference>drop the illustration until I finish the study on the part>don't want to finish that illustration after I finish the study, move on>repeat How do I go around my approach to drawing? All I end up with before I run out of steam are WIPs, completely experimental sketches, and pre-sketch figures. My current goal is to at least get a non-half-assed piece that's finished enough that I can get thorough criticisms on it
>>7351384try the other way around, first doing preliminary studies for parts you know are going to be challenging before tackling the full illustration
>>7351348I want to be able to jump into drawthread and make anons happy. But I think you were being sarcastic.
I didn't draw today. I failed you
>>7351445I'm drawing right now and feel like I've failed
Goth mommy gf
>>7350032>>7350040>>7350058>>7350111Got two more done today. Played a bit fast and loose with the stump, all the details were intimidating, but I'm feeling kinda proud that I've managed to make drawing actually fun. And I'm really surprised with how good the snail turned out all things considered, although it's quite a simple character.
>>7351348you'd get banned there for flat-chested drawings
meat cube
>>7351539looks tasty
>>7351384Learn that mistakes are part of the process, not everything has to be perfect. Just fail, analyze why you failed, look at people who do it right, and try again trying to improve on what you noticed was lacking
Not really looking for critique since it’s so basic, just wanted to share
wip
>>7351575
more of my beg army loli hijinks >during today's lesson she got herself stuck under barbed wire, surely someone will notice....right?
>>7351622Why do you insist on calling it a loli? You're drawing big tits, why brand yourself as a pedophile?
>>7351628anon that's called oppai lolibasically precursor shortstack
>>7348756Another self portrait
>>7351630>>7351628this anon get's it
>>7351628>>7351630She is oppai loli and as anon said, that's pretty much synonymous with shortstack. what you want me to call her then? Army loli is kinda name that has stuck for now
give me a master to obsessively study the next two weeks, ill take the first reply
>>7351670https://gatodelfuturo.newgrounds.com/NSFW: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/6850721/artworks
full plate is annoyingly complex>>7351144study proportions>>7351188study feet>>7351191Why'd you go for a hip-level perspective instead of chest-level? Not a critique, just curious>>7351226Add in the torso, it affects how the hair flows when it's that long>>7351312Your faces seem a little goofed but overall a solid simpler anime style>>7351322Too good, I don't know what to criticize>>7351355I think you need to try drawing a reference, something looks off>>7351450Good>>7351489Face looks a bit goofed
>see people constantly recommend Mogoon/Modare's Coloso course>check it out>the first 6 videos don't even describe how to draw, they're just explanations on what perspective terminology isam i missing something or is this class below my level? I was hoping to learn how he actually draws figures and renders, not a 50 minute explanation on the types of x-point perspectives
>>7351689>take art course>surprised when they start with art terms
>>7351690i feel like if you're at the point of doing a coloso course that typically requires money, you probably already know WHAT perspective is
Actually sitting down and finishing a piece has made me aware how deficit I am in everything. Anyone have any good painting courses to recommend?
Thoughts/advice? My most recent drawing.My drawings always look so unfinished. What am I lacking/what should I currently be focusing on?
>>7351695I'd recommend just finding some timelapses in a style you like. There are so many ways to paint that most courses are just opinion fluff.
>>7351683Do me big boy.Fuck your observations are good
>>7351696very much sovl, but the proportions are a bit out of wack in the lower At the level where you placed the calve on the right, maybe you should see her other foot, her legs are too freaking long.
>>7351712Ah fuck you’re right. Feels bad.
I'm admitting to myself I need to grind Fun with a Pencil. I can see the flaws in my drawings. Maybe I am beginning to escape the prebeg zone.
Ok so, i've noticed that the main reason behind my inherent lack of skill is muscle tightness. I have two settings, deathgrip or no grip at all, as a result i lack fine motor control and suck ass at trad.I'm muscle-tight all over my body, but it's very apparent in my hands when trying to draw.Is it something i can reasonably push through by Just Drawing with correct grips? Or am i genuinely disabled.
>>7351725the reason you are not good at drawing is not because you are gripping too hard
>>7351716That's traditional medium, isn't? You can make her dress longer to cover up all of that on the bottom.
>>7351727Ok it's also the lack of skill and practice, but i am telling you that i have muscle tightness that the average person does not, and that is impeding my efforts.I'm >>7350777And the position shown on pic is how i naturally grab the pencil.I really think it's an issue i'll have to adress if i intend to get good.
>>7351711I'm not good at faces, armor, or hair so the only 2 things I noticed were>Chainmail in the inner thigh: you're drawing the whole rings instead of the highlights, like trying to draw every leaf on a tree. Check out how the contemporary artists choose to simplify it>Line weight is a bit inconsistent. You're consistently using thin lines for detail, but sometimes using thin lines and sometimes using thick lines for the edges. It looks weirdest on the sword
>>7351733i mean you can stretch your hands out but having tighter tendons usually means theyre inherently more responsive. stretching them wont take that away but is probably not gonna make it better lol
>>7351622Paljonko on yhden mortin härävi?
>>7351737This sentence doesn't make sense to me.So is stretching going to make it better or not make it better?Is high responsivness caused by tight tendons a good thing?If it's about the tightness of tendons i should be able to just exercise it away. These get tight when there isn't enough muscle to get the job done.
>>7351725Do martial arts, it'll help you become stronger, more coordinated and looser.Maybe not Judo because that can fuck up your fingers.
>>7351741no, theyll get more flexible but not less responsive. at least they shouldnt. anyway, this is such an inconsequential thing you dont really have to worry about it
>>7351744Alright. It just makes my fingies get tired really really fast and it's basically just one more thing i have to worry about on top of actually drawing.It's like that in the rest of my body, too.>>7351742Does boxing work? There's a gym near me. I don't really see the utility of karate etc but maybe these would be better for coordination.
>>7351735A LOT has to be redrawn. Anything torso down is still sketch and neither weapon has been retouched.I will internalize your oberservations however.
>>7351746Boxing is good for coordination and strength, the only thing you might want to consider is that sparring often involves punches to the head, and you might want that noggin working when you want to draw, however it depends on the gym on how rough your sparring partners are, but most boxing gyms like to go hard.Assuming you're after mostly strength and coordination benefits, karate is a safer bet and Kyokushin is a pretty good karate style with emphasis on sparring and strength, and notably no punches to the head, kicks are ok though. I have no experience in Muay thai and Kickboxing, but from a few acquaintances that practiced them, these seem to be styles where there are less head hits during sparring than boxing. Some Muay Thai gyms do dutch style sparring, which goes pretty hard, but others do Thai style sparring, which is lighter and more controlled.
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