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If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
mangapose.com
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

>Cool teachers
Glenn Vilppu
Michael Hampton
Steve Huston
Brent Eviston
Marco Bucci
Andrew Loomis
George Bridgman
Hikaru Hayashi

>Cool books
Keys To Drawing
Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain
How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way
The Art and Science of Drawing
Framed Perspective
Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
The Complete Guide to Drawing From Life

Previous thread: >>7356773
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Why do I tense up and get stressed when I sit down to draw
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>>7358096
how should we know that? try to give some more details and perhaps we can help you figure it out.
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>>7358096
Oh god it's another schizo
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>>7358093
OP this is the cooler thread image ever. Good job!
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>>7358096
because you don't touch yourself at night
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>>7358102
I wish I had been part of it
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Is this a good art schedule?

One day doing my art, other day copying Bridgman and so on
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>>7358115
Yeah man why not. You're over thinking it, but to answer your question, yes you will be off to a great start with that
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>>7358096
You should engage in less gay sex.
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I'm stumped. Idk how her foot is supposed to land.
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>>7358093
>pokemon ass in the OP
Based
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>>7358137
Nice. I like how expressive the eyes are anon you're improving.

repost of my drawing
>>7358074
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songs to draw cubes to volume 15
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>>7358184
That's funny anon
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>>7358184
>5 fingers
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>>7358164
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how do you actually get motivated to draw stuff if it looks like shit whenever you do
havent moved past the drawing basic mannequin stage in months cause it always looks horrible
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>>7358215
Seconding this. I've been doodling dumb nonsense to fill my drawing time or doing really soulless course work. Fun is out of reach.
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>>7358215
I am motivated by the fact that the process of drawing is fun.
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>>7358200
how the FUCK did i miss that
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>>7358176
Thanks! I've never attempted a pose like this at this angle so I'm not too sure myself that I've improved.
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>>7358187
thanks
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>>7358184
unfiltered sovl
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>>7358219
I imagine a story. Then I try to draw a scene from that story.
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>>7358215
stop drawing those ugly loomis heads. draw something fun or cute instead
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>>7358245
but whenever i do it looks terrible
at least my loomis heads turn out ok
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>>7358245
Cute and fun even.
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>pick your favorite artist on pixiv or whatever
>copy their entire gallery
Congrats here‘s your silver bullet for getting good at art, no need to thank me.
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>>7358213
Oops forgot to shade the dudes. And added more shadow to her face so it doesn't look like she's missing an eye
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>>7358247
I've kept one drawing around of my attempt to copy the loli drawing book as a reminder to never draw from that dogshit book again. When I put that monstrosity on paper It honestly made me quit drawing for couple days. Now I keep it as a grim reminder to never ever attempt to draw from that book again
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>>7358254
lmaoo, I dropped that book too. Why don't you try to put your skills to the test and when you've finished it, see where you went wrong and study those parts?
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last update before I fall asleep
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>>7358257
hell no. I'm not subjecting myself to that book again. we both dropped that book for a reason, You pick it up again :DDDD
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>>7358261
I didn't mean go back to that book lol. I meant make a finished piece. Just draw one piece, then look at the mistakes and focus on those parts.
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>>7358266
Hmm. You know any ways to actually really see your own mistakes, because I think i've grown accustomed to the way i draw and I don't think my brain considers many things I do mistakes but stylistic choices now. So it's hard to know if I'm doing stuff wrong
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>>7358275
Well, it's always good to have a reference to compare to. Compare and write down all the (major) differences. If you're going off imagination and something is difficult to get right, I'd say write that down too. Flipping your canvas also helps as it basically gives you a new set of eyes, although I tend to do it so much I go blind to the mistakes until I take a break. (I come back and see everything is misaligned and shitty lol). If all else fails, ask someone to tell you what they think looks fucked up, anyone will do really.
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>>7358102
Thanks homie
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>>7358298
Are we catposting?
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>>7358299
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special cot
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Were is redblobfag I want him to teach me how to drwa.
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>>7358307
I'm lidl redblob guy what do you want to get crabbed for my son
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this was a mistake
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>>7358311
imposter
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>>7358137
On the same plane as the other legs knee.
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>>7358323
I like it. The foreshortened arm will be hard but that's where you truly learn
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>>7358333
less is more my guy
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>>7358093
I heard there is a /int/ discord, I am a man of steal, niggers how do I get in to steal their knowledge?
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Some bridgmans.
Trying to be consistent before i start memory drawing again.
It takes me forever for a single memory drawing that i start having second thoughts and flipflopping to different artbooks.
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I'm never choosing a reference with foreshortening ever again but at least this is finished
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>>7358406
You pulled that shit off though. Nice!
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>>7358405
Very Bridg, man.
Id love to see how you draw hands from memory now.
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>>7358406
I tried to do drawing with foreshortening and pose that I came up with, that I don't think is even possible to make look good. I kind of hated every part of that drawing.
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I wanted to try to emulate the ornamentation of illuminated manuscripts and that shit is really time consuming. If I ever decide to do this again it'll be in a better drawing.
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>>7358333
less is more when it comes to detailing the hair here.
also pay attention to where the eyes are focusing, right now she kind of looks crosseyed
I tried my hand at doing some tweaks to it
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What kind of anatomy is this
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>>7358434
The Korean kind.
What are you asking?
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>>7358434
Low bodyfat + Low Muscle volume.
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>>7358434
SEXO
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>>7358434
isnt this the diaphragm
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>>7358434
Sheet of muscles on top of the edge of ribcage.
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>>7358434
The serratus muscles connecting with the abs muscles.
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>>7358219
You're not just going to suddenly love drawing. It's probably just not for you.
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>>7358323
Anime was a mistake in general.
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>>7358462
The serratus isn't visible here. And it's not next to the abs.
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>>7358494
Looks great, but there's an awkward band of the same value going from her right back to her neck.
Mind posting the ref?
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>>7358498
Yeah I see that now. If I spent more time with it I probably would have refined that! Here’s the ref. It’s Ethel Cain lmao
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>>7358333
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>>7358414
Like shit desu that's why i didn't do any from memory today.
It overwhelms me into not drawing and i'm just trying to be consistent before i try it again.
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>>7358484
Maybe. But I've gotten too deep into the sunken cost to back down now.
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>>7358500
>referencing forensic investigation pictures
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I made second pixiv just for my sfw doodles yesterday and my first 2 images already have 45 views both. I'm on my way of making it :D
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>>7358500
I searched that name. I'm so thirsty I didn't recognize a tranny.
This pic's cute tho
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>>7358502
erm cool and thanks but dont need
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>>7358534
Then don't post.
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Trying to draw from imagination again.
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>>7358535
Nope will do
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>>7358333
Why do the feet look like that?
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>>7358535
based.
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Do me a favor guys and report all the cris threads for spam. There's like 12 of them now. This has gone on long enough.
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>>7358575
12 threads have been massacred because of that retard
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>>7358306
>>7358304
>>7358299
>>7358298
Cat from a couple days ago.
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>>7358544
The foot and leg are too big marginally
The foot being viewed from the side
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>>7358341
Can you show me?
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>>7358599
What is the pose actually supposed to be? like what's happening out of frame? what is the other leg doing, is she kneeling like assumed or is she standing on one leg and other leg is propped up on something?
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>>7358299
>>7358303
>>7358304
>>7358306
>>7358584
Quick cat girl I made
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>>7358620
Kinda like this but from the side and she's holding her leg with her hands though, not her forearms. I kinda don't want to bring her legs closer. Also I havn't yet but I should probably make it so her skirt is interacting with the floor. Idk how to make her boot land naturally from an angle that isn't nearly straight down.
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>>7358592
OK
Fix?
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>>7358184
incredibly sovlful. especially love gon here.
keep it up!

>>7358323
looks amazing!

>>7358406
this looks amazing too!
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>>7358093
Some KJG studies . Women are hard.

Where’s the studies general?
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>>7358653
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>>7358659
amazing but needs longer eyebrows if yours is the one on the right
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>>7358406
A way to make it easier is to SLIGHTLY blur loosen the rendering of the non-focal parts, or decontrast parts further away, as you would in a landscape painting, where trees are less detailed and less contrasted in value/color in the distance. Im uncertain but It seems like you might have blurred the face a little- unsure though.

Our eyes/brains don't naturally comprehend extreme foreshortening because we'd only focus on 1 plane of depth at a time. The pose spans a distance, so having everything in equal detail and focus makes "correctness" hard to acheive.

I think you struck a good balance though, likely because of the contrast the colors on the hand more than those on the face. Subtle work.
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>>7358669
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>Tfw no depth perception so I don't think I can ever fully comprehend foreshortening
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>>7358669
nta but that is helpful.
ty!
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>>7358093
I don't know how leg muscles work
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>>7358717
You should go back to drawing boys, didn't you take more pics of your friend? Just draw him instead
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>>7358727
Anon I commend you for your hard work but that brush is utter shit please use another brush it looks like the whole picture was blurred
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>>7358727
Go learn SHAPES anon
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>>7358764
Bro about to unlock tetrahedrons gonna be brazy
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>>7358762
would
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>>7358764
These are forms, retard.
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>>7358096
Just throw your art away after
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I'm thinking of adding another character to these stories. Let's see if I can pull a new design off.
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>>7358786
you should add another dimension by drawing something in 3/4ths perspective
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>>7358792
lol. lmao, even.
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>>7358792
I have done that couple of times, but I don't think I'm that good at 3/4th perspective yet
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i dont know why i put off watching him for so long

i still don't know how to use his book though
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>>7358736
I'm going to take this as a complement. Thanks Anon!

>tfw haven't had a chance yet
sadge
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drawing is so fun holy fuck
i started a week ago
just getting better each day is the most satisfying shit
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Practising tons of hips because im being bad at them for a long time. I ended transforming this pose into an "after the bukkake" for fun
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>>7358820
Nice work anon, keep at it.
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>>7358253
Awesome Style anon. Would buy the graphic novel
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Yep this is about as far as I go.
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>>7358820
And you're still so retarded you don't know how to take a photo.
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>>7358820
and you're so kind you took a photo and shared it!
; )
keep it up
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>>7358820
>>7358821
HOW HARD IS IT TO KEEP YOUR HAIRY FUCKING FINGER OFF THE PICTURE. it's not rocket science man, you can place your picture against some surface or some shit.
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>>7358639
Nah its done
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How do you keep up with trends?
I feel like im handicapping myself by not doing popular stuff.
Doesn't help that im into old shit thats either abandoned or dead or has a small fanbase.
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>>7358412
>>7358644
Thank you : )
>>7358669
Really appreciate this, thanks for the tips anon
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color
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>>7358884
I just draw what I like and hope for the best
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My attempt at drawing a cartoon baby in my style
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>>7358892
Left arm has a right hand.
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>>7358909
And vice versa from the look of it. Unless that's not a thumb
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>>7358912
looks like a thumb.
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>>7358892
hope this fixes it
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>>7358929
nta but, no.
that being said, i like your colors.
and you don't neve to feel bad if you just wanna move on to a new drawing
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guys. I'm doing some story crafting for future. How could you possibly make gondola hold a rifle or run N gun, those things only have two legs. I'm stumped. anyone got ideas?
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>>7358884
Her lower half seemed too small, I think her rmidsection looks elongated because of that. If you want I can try to draw her skinnier
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Hello beg, i did not die or transitioned. I simply fell into fountain pen rabbit hole and it took me 3 weeks to climb back from it. I made a new project on my blog about it: penmania. It is basically a how-to pick the bestest pen. Also i drew this. Hopefully i will restart my beg grind.

>>7358901
that geometrical mouse is SOUL
>>7358884
depends on your art goals. if you want to make a patreon with 9999 followers each giving you a dollar per month... gotta grind the social slop websites. If you dont want this then you can do whatever you want
>>7358867
cute anime thot
>>7358820
welcome to the beg!
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>>7358933
>>7358892
shit
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>>7358933
ty anon i'll see what I can change tom
>>7358930
understandable
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>>7358934
Glad to see you back Pawell!
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>>7358931
simple
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>>7358093
FUCK I keep making the torso too long.
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First time trying this style. Is it working?
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>>7358952
define working.
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>>7358952
define style
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Took advice from last thread.
Reworking the monster to make it more clear it's attacking.
Still early in the change.
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>>7358878
Understandable. Have a nice day.
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>>7358952
Define first time?
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>>7358952
I would work on color grading, the base linework isn't that bad at all but the colors really ruin it in my opinion.

Picrel is my attempt at fixing the colors while staying true to what you were going for, but I failed. I would try to limit yourself to using only cel shading, try not to shade with black also look up pastel or neon color palettes and use those colors/pick ones similar.
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>>7358933
tried my best to apply your suggestions
ty
will recolor the rest tomorrow
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WIP
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Started practicing loomis heads from the book and then did an original with a little form thing from vlipu book
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I tried the perlin tutorial you showed me all. I think it looks good, but I am interested in hearing your advice.
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>>7358976
howd u manage to make it worse?
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Is it true that copying bridgman twice gives you tremendous progress? Do I need to copy every last single tiny figure in there? Is there a more modern version maybe? Maybe something more anime because I'm a retard? Thanks
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>>7359019
>is it true that copying Bridgman twice gives you tremendous progress

Yes, but only if you take the time to properly study his work. Lots of anons here half ass the drawings by making them less rendered/overly loose so if you want to get the most out of it, you have to try. Ideally, you’ll see gains the first run through.

>do I need to copy every last singly tiny figure in there

Yes.

>is there a more modern version maybe? Maybe something more anime

You can always do Morpho which a lot of anime artists use or Taco, maybe study manga panels. Bridgman is really going to solidify your knowledge of anatomy, shading, and forms. It’s up to you to dictate what you want out of your artistic progress to decide if Bridgman is who you want to study
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>>7359019
Yeah, copy Tony Taka twice instead.
https://e-hentai.org/g/3057008/e043224ae2/
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Fifth day of practicing, just nailed a circle-shield head (Whatever you call those.)

Feelsgoodman
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>>7359035
You're doing it anon
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Messing around with filters since it was gonna be a disaster anyway. Idk how to paint a background.
>>7358934
Based Pawell.
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>>7358934
the king has returned!
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>>7358949
interesting proposal, let's see if it works
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colored thats all for the night for me
>>7359040
I like it
>>7359035
make sure the ears are the same alignment, eyes look a little too close, etc keep it up anon
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>>7359041
Your king. Not mine.
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>>7358998
Lines
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>>7359064
Oops
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>>7359046
had to fix her chest
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>>7359070
Holyy based.
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I'd be dangerous if I could actually get eyes, noses, mouths and hair down.
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>>7359070
dunnered and krugered there a bit. I think it still kinda looks wrong
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I might have the drawing skills of a toddler but at least I had fun!
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Sorry excuse for a study. Is fun to just try copy manga panels when you dont have ideas.
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>>7359076
Jona? Whats going on bruh?
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>>7359077
Art block
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>>7359051
Please respect this thread's hierarchy. Thank you.
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I don't know why being tired makes drawing harder.
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>>7359019
bridgman is fun, but xiao has exercises and it's a bit easier to understand
not a bad idea to try both
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One of my buddies recognized a face I drew, /beg/!

How do I capture this feeling forever
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>>7359065
Color
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Today is tummy day in Japan. Can I get any ideas on how to make a belly-focused pose that isnt fetishistic?
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>>7359129
Maybe two sumo wrestlers fighting?
They do push each other with their bellies sometimes.
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Is there a reason to do construction beyond the head, chest, and hips?
I feel like mapping out every limb with cylinders or other shapes just makes the entire pose stiff and you're better off going with the flow.
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>>7359134
I meant a pinup
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>>7359137
Make the wrestlers sexy then.
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>>7359135
Yeah i usually just draw the arms/legs without construction, unless i'm doing a pose with a ton of foreshortening
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>>7359134
Make them chunky kitsunes.
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Lay it on me
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>>7359159
would
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I despise neets and welfare leeches who get to drw all fucking day so fucking much.
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>>7359159
(Lay it on me)
Lay me on
I'LLLLL BEEEE GOOONE
IN A DAY OR TWOOOOOOO
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>>7359086
Anon, you gotta draw what you see if your gonna practice doing copies. You're doing digital so just overlay the copy over the original and write down the mistakes like the torso being too big, the frills not being attempted properly, among other things. If it helps, just trace the darn picture then copy the lineart you just created 1 to 1. Your observation skills need work.
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>>7359112
Quickie follow up, part of a worldbuilding thing
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is construction basically a cheat?
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>>7359198
>is using your brain basically a cheat?
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>>7359198
It's the opposite, a handicap
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>>7359163
In that case you should also despise Investors that sit on their ass all day and watch their money grow while collecting dividends. Only difference between them and a NEET is social status.
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>>7359198
It's just training wheels. It helps you to understand the volume of forms in space. Once your brain internalizes this you can just trace the feeling of the forms only relying on construction for more technical pieces or complex perspectives.
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How can I improve my gesture drawings? What do I need to focus on? This is one of my best ones, took 3 minutes.
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>>7359086
drawing is 95% thinking/observation and 5% motor skill
pic related was done with mspaint and a mouse (mostly the line tool and eraser, since I never draw with a mouse and don't have any dexterity with it)
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>>7359198
anything that makes drawing easier is a cheat and a bad habit and you're a bad person for even considering it
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>>7359238
DON'T LET THE SLOP TAKE OVER! PICK UP THE PENCIL!
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>>7359238
you're fucking retarded. Go do you performative bullshit on twitter with all the other attention whores.
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>>7359088
This from Xiao too?
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>>7359245
Just admit that you're weak
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It always makes me smile when I see "proompters" try to false flag with random gens from Pixiv or Civitai because they're too lazy or dumb to even open up the program and type the words themselves.
Too lazy for AI, too lazy to draw for real. Makes me feel a lot better about myself.
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>>7359252
Dang that's crazy.
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>>7359252
it could have been a trap you set up, it could have been a real drawing but you pretend it's AI to lure people who say they're sure it's AI, so you can then humiliate them by telling them it's not. Although I realize this, I'll take the “risk” of telling you that I'm 100% sure it's AI, I recognize it at a glance.
In the same way, you recognize at a glance that picrel isn't AI, you just know it. It's true that AI is (relatively) good at imitating say 5% of human art, but for the other 90%, it's not the case - when you take one look at a drawing that's part of that 90%, you don't even have the slightest doubt in your mind that it could be AI.
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95%* lol
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>>7359261
if you're making soulless art for “consumers” and normies, you do indeed have something to worry about
(for a manga where the visual context of a panel is always related to the previous ones, good luck making a good manga with the randomness of AI)
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>>7359263

in reality, when you make a manga, you make the visuals in relation to the various narrative contexts, not the other way around. these are just empty, impractical demonstrations.
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>>7359248
Yes, it's a good book. It's probably for the best it isn't shilled as much as it is, because it does have some questionable takes, but, I'd say it's also more modern in what it teaches.
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>>7359287
The pose says "I'm standing still and aesthetically sexy posing for the camera" when it should say "I'm running and tripping, there's a monster in the room!!"
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is it just me or is anime more difficult to draw than humans, other than lips of course. anime just seems irregular, like the positioning of the mouth and eyes changes based on camera angle, where as real drawings obey physics
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>>7359307
You have to adjust your construction to accommodate anime proportions yeah
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Starting my drawing journey (once again)

Currently sitting in a mental hospital in eastern europe, after which will probably spend some time in a homeless shelter
So basically I have a bit of free time at the moment

Also I was told that there is an instructor that comes here and teaches drawing, but she is on vacation at the moment... disappointing...

Also I can't understand if I am having fun and enjoying drawing or if it is just the depression that seems to make me feel apathetic, but it seems to at least distract me from my thoughts, so that's nice

Anyway here is a feet drawing done as the first exercise of Keys to Drawing
Left foot came out a bit smaller than intended (or right foot larger)
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Here's a pair of fingers and an apple... (and a crumpled paper that I was too lazy to finish)
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>>7358093
My drawing speed and copying accuracy is increasing but I still don't get the forms and gestures. Watching Vilppus tutorials didn't work because even while watching him draw and draw along I couldn't get the feels. What should I do to get forms and gestures correct? How can I "Draw over the forms"?
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do you guys actually enjoy the process of drawing or just the results? i really want to learn and get better and produce cool art but the drawing itself is so tedious and boring.
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>>7359348
I turn on some music and just vibe. Makes the process more fun for me at least.
Usually The Doors as their song lengths are good for timing a piece
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>Stop thinking too hard and only doodle
>It's all garbage even for my standards
Is this normal? I usually draw from reference but I'm surprised at how shit my doodles are
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>>7359344
You're already drawing over the forms. Look at the torso center lines you made, take the top right one, you started it where the collar bones meet in the middle you followed the form of the ribcage with a slight curve, and then you dip into the navle and out over the lower stomach again, if that's not "drawing over the form" I dont know what is. Imagine you're drawing directly on the surface of whatever you're drawing. All your circle around the limbs are a really handy tool too which shows form and direction.
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>>7359348
i'm a simple person i enjoy the process because i draw my husbando and special interests
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>>7359210
I am just ver angry and frustarted because my neet art cooleague keeps getting better while I have to wageslave with no alternatives.
He gets to draw all he wants, grind and even get leisure time in vidya while I have to sacrifice sleep to draw a bit after coming home and even then I am already spent from the day and I have to sacrifice anything that isn't drawing to use that little time getting nowhere while he gets to enjoy his time to the fullest.

Seeing him upload his art that easily surpassed me in a few months while I am at work and how he also has observation talent to draw well and without mistakes at first while I have to autistically measure shit to copy wrong and redo over and over just makes me salty.

I know many will say "Just draw bruh" and to not compare oneself to others but having just what you fucking want right in front of you and having it rubbed on your face really hurts. I wish I was good and could make better stuff with the little time I have or that I at least only had to work part time.
I envy people who get all the support they need to reach their dreams.
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>>7358093
Is making progress supposed to take this long like in pic rel?

https://x.com/noahbradley/status/1854296289699045526?t=HzMZwRMhIFABPxVocG0bUQ&s=19
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>>7359424
Anon some people don’t get good with even twice the time
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>>7359424
it all depends on your iq
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAjZoW6TvW0
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>>7359424
>>7359428
Looks like getting into paiting as fast as possible is the way.
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>>7359431
Learn to draw ands compose first. I tried to skip straigt to paint and uit fucked me out of 8 years that I wont get back.
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>>7359344
Vilppu is tricky because he explicitly draws out the initial abstract idea of gesture in line, which is a sense of general direction based on what you can actually see. It's a guide to loosely follow when drawing that helps inform you how to design your lines, shapes and structure. Many artists don't do this though, they are however of course aware of it and start with shape or structure and design it to show that sense of gesture, "skipping" the initial step that Vilppu and Hampton do.

I like Steve Huston's description of gesture as it's simple and concrete. 'Gesture is the curved long axis of a structure'. I wouldn't say gesture is always curved, it just is. However the sense of a straight gesture tends to be stiff and boring so we design our lines, shapes and structure to make it curve.

Gesture doesn't just move in the X and Y axis, but also the Z axis, it can come towards us or move away. This leans into the "feeling the form". Imagine a 3d structure in your mind, a cylinder that is made of glass. Start drawing a line across the surface(crosscontour line) from the visible area to the the hidden area, all around and connect it . Use your arm in the air as if holding a pen that is going over the surface as if it's really there. Turn it, try again. IVisualising and interacting with this mental model is "feeling the form", imagining where lines would end up despite not being able to see it all. It's closely related to understanding perspective as well as the saying "think like a sculptor". Grab some photos of figures and draw lines over the surface. Or do some of those Dynamic Sketching exercises.

Can hint at parts of anatomy for example to emphasise the gesture. It's a tool.

Made these images a while back regarding gesture, maybe it helps
https://postimg.cc/PCkV5pBX
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>>7359433
Sounds like a you problem.
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How long will it take to draw like this? What do you think the workflow was, scan pencil and color on computer?
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>>7359436
It was. Studying software now. Good Luck.
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>>7359441
you too.
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>>7359019
>Is there a more modern version maybe? Maybe something more anime
This is a lost cause already
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maan. I went to every single big store in my city in search for a clipboard to draw my doodle on. None of them had one. wtf. why are those things so hard to find. do i really need to order one online
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Sup /beg/. I'm on my sixth day of a 30 day drawing challenge, and I wanted to check in to see if I'm approaching things smartly.

I've just been drilling cubes and circles, then spicing things up with circle-shield faces. Occassionally I'll try to practice some more complicated pictures by reference, but the bulk of my grind has been those shapes and face proportions.

How effective do you think this is for a complete beginner? Should I be focusing on something else?
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>>7359019
>Is it true that copying bridgman twice gives you tremendous progress? Do I need to copy every last single tiny figure in there? Is there a more modern version maybe?

The book by TenTen is probably closest to it.

https://e-hentai.org/g/2367763/1b25ad2999/
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>>7359019
Doing any of the commonly rec'd books and copying the drawings while paying attention/being thoughtful (i.e. not rushing) will give you tremendous progress. It doesn't have to be bridgman. But it is one of the books that focuses on individual body parts, which makes it easier to digest. If you're not getting something out of copying a book you probably are focusing on the wrong things, like trying to mimic the style vs learning why the drawings look a certain way/what they are trying to convey
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when do you graduate to int?
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>>7359469
>How effective do you think this is for a complete beginner?
efficiency is not that important in the beginning, just develop the habit of drawing for fun
but if you really want to grind, spend your time on observation and accuracy (i.e. copy simple drawings you like 1:1)
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>>7359475
I watched a video that showed an artist drawing every day for 11700 hours, and he didn't start drawing art worth sharing until he was 2k-3k in.

If you draw an hour a day for a year, you only put in 365 hours. If you want to get better in any reasonable amount of time, just drawing for fun isn't going to cut it. Know what I mean?
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>>7359459
Why didn't you check if any of these stores had them stocked?
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>>7359459
Go to homedepo and get yourself a square piece of hdf plywood. And then pick up some art clips from your local art shop.
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>>7359477
in the hindsight I should have, but the 4 big stores in my city are like 1km apart. I just kinda assumed atleast one of them would have something like stocked. my drawingsheet is just getting thinner and softer to draw on after every image I finish, gotta find one from somewhere
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>>7359476
>If you draw an hour a day for a year, you only put in 365 hours
if you enjoy something and have fun, you're more likely to spend far more than just an hour a day
besides, what is a reasonable time frame for you? professional degrees take around 4 years full time to go through (around 11700 hours, coincidentally)
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>>7359476
Why draw if not for fun.
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>>7359482
My post, I'm a retard. I feel like I rendered this piece too much and should have gone for a more simplistic approach. The point was to highlight the belly as I wanted to make it the main focal point
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>>7359481
I don't mind how long it takes for me to get good, I just want to be decent as soon as possible.
>>7359483
It's not that I don't want to have fun, it's just that I'm churning out dogshit right now, and I want to be able to be proud of what I make.
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>>7359478
I might just actually have to do that at this point
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>>7359471
Damn japs.
I can't read your language i can only speak it
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Thoughts? General is fine, I don't know enough to know what things I need to work on. I do think that need advice and guidance on lighting/highlights and making things look appealing, though.
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>>7359491
that's chinese
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>>7359439
>How long will it take to draw like this?
as long as you need to

>What do you think the workflow was, scan pencil and color on computer?
Try to find the artist and look for videos of him, this looks very similar to the art of Michael Spooner or Bengus, both use a sort of wash underpainting and build up saturation.

In the case of Michael Spooner, I have the following workflow from one of his trainees while working on Treasure Plane

Vellum or tracing paper
Erased colour pencil underpainting
Prismacolour pencil
Black pen for lines
erase
add a little bit of gouache

This is trad, but knowing how he does it helps to find a way to reproduce it digitally.
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>>7359471
Tenten is good but I wouldn't call his book a contemporary bridgman. I would go for steve huston and morpho.

>>7359494
It feels stiff, especially the red thread, I would love to see it thinner where the tension is and droopy where it hangs.
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>>7359435
>explicitly draws out the initial abstract idea of gesture in line
Do you mean flow pre-sketch of gestures by a few lines or what
NTA
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Drawing a character that's simple and turning it is hard.
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dumb bitch
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>>7359500
I can't read that either
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good morning sirs (woke up at 6pm)
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>>7359582
Well, you did a good job of it here.
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ditys
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me
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There's a bunch wrong with this sketch, I know, but I spent so much time trying to recreate Canello's little half-smile here, and I can't figure it out. Anyone have any advice?
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>>7359623
How did you become so scribbly?
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>>7359629
A-whoops
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>>7359620
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>>7359629
Literally who
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>>7359635
Canello Alvarez! A mexican boxer.
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>>7359633
wait is that her?
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>>7359629
He looks like he'd shoot a kid that witnessed a heist.
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i can now draw anime girls and do sex with them digitally. man, my dreams slowly come true

>>7359630
always has been, also nervous and virgin mindset
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>>7359620
please refrain from posting lust invoking images, I'm doing no nut november and almost came in my pants yesterday thinking about my sister. ( she wants to fuck me always when shes drunk)
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>>7359665
Express your chastity via art
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>>7359665
Does she have sexy feet?
Would you let her suck your taint?
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>>7359631
>>7359629
That's funny anon
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>>7358093
Perspective made easy. Christ, this was tedious, but I learned a lotttt so on to the next.
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>>7359647
Hilarious
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Are there any resources for rendering latex with ink and pencils? Notable artists? Tutorials?
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>>7359665
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>>7359653
>draw anime girls and do sex
How does that even works?
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>>7359718
what’s your hand drawing process? tell me or i’ll kill myself
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>>7359734
Well. To be quite frankly. I grinded all of morpho's simplified forms then studied hogarth's dynamic hands whenever I found myself struggling to draw them from imagination. Now whenever I draw from reference it's a breeze. The secret really is just getting mileage anon haha. I really sucked at drawing hands a few months ago.
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>>7359713
https://e-hentai.org/g/2871460/1b9ce339be/
I was looking the art book section of this websites and happen to come this just now.
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>>7359701
Good shit
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>>7359752
Thanks anon
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>>735975
>>7359755
>>7359755
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How’s the anatomy/perspective
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>>7359562
The lines indicating the flow stuff actually is the gesture already, all the other stuff you add after that is for solidifying the figure with basic structure which in turn follows the gesture. Adding the outer edges of the form(containing) and wrapping lines to show the orientation.
Vilppu's shtick is one thing leading into the other.

If it's still confusing, or i just explained it badly, just use the definition of Huston which is as clearcut as can be "Gesture is the (curved) long axis of a structure".
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>>7359276
thanks, but I didn't think it was in english
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>>7359763
this looks like a human halfway to animorphing into roger from american dad
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NEW THREAD
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>>7359159
I also drew this. It is less good



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