What's the point of drawing in anime style or trying to become a mangaka if you're not japanese?
That's right, no one has ever had an impossible dream. We should only ever strive for what's easily achievable
>>7361437What’s the point of drinking soda when water achieves the same point?
>>7361437there is none. that's why Baka Gaijins should stick to what they do best. Western Superheroes.
>>7361437It's what I've been into my whole life. It'd be way more unnatural for me to emulate American or European comics when I've never really been exposed to that stuff.
>>7361437What the point of living if you are not a flipino?
>>7361437What's the point of drawings when i can visualize a apple in my head
>>7361469Hahahah, how your brains were washed and how you hate your art, island dogs will never accept your drawings behind themselves, Hehehe
>>7361437Because you love anime style art and want to make more of it while expressing yourself?
>>7361496Learn English
Mass appeal. The only correct answer.
>>7361437>What's the point of drawing in anime styleThat's what I like. Why should I draw in some other arbitrary style I'm not particularly fond of just because I'm western? Also animelike style is still very popular even if it's obvious it's made by a westerner.>mangakaYeah, that's a retarded goal to be quite honest.
>>7361791>anime styleWhat does pic related have to do with it?
>>7361794The pic I posted is heavily influenced by anime style, I thought it was apparent enough.
>>7361801Nah, it's western faux-anime.
>>7361809Yeah, that's why I said pretty much. The western artist is trying to emulate anime style which ends up with an appealing piece regardless, even as it doesn't pass as "authentic" japanese.
>>7361810>appealing piece>western faux-animePick one and only one.
>>7361822oh, you are just a faggot, carry on then amigo.
>>7361825>adhominem fallacyOne must still face the truth even if it hurts.
>>7361831There's no ground for arguing when you're just gay and retarded.
>>7361838I know it hurts, but there's still the chance to drop all of that nonsense and learn the authentic and beautiful style.
>>7361437>what's the point of having fun when it doesn't last forever?op is a faggot once again
>>7361840True. You're still gay though.
>>7361437What's the point of being alive if I'm not filthy rich?
>>7361437That's a weird question. You can get paid to do what you love, with the added bonus that if you're really good you could become world famous. Why would somebody want to become an actor if they're not american? Sure, there's roles outside of america, but anybody could tell you that LA is the place to go if you want to act. This is like that. There's jobs outside of manga for comicmaking, but japan is definitely the place to be for comic authors right now.
>>7361437Why does she look like that?
>>7361437>Why are you drawing things that you want to draw?OP, that's literally what you're asking.Dumb thread.Draw whatever you want.
>>7361437Cuz it's funBut yeah, don't just stick to one style, try out ALL the styles.
>>7361437Love Bullet mangaka is an American woman who got published by a Japanese publisher.
>>7361437>anime style>mangaka
What's the point of drawing in ANY style or trying to become a professional in the art industry?
>>7361809Now, and in the past, people have already learned to draw in the style of anime, then this is anime, fuck your japanocentrism
>>7362221Well?
>>7362223>in the style of animeThat abomination isn't "in the style of anime". It's an incoherent bastardization.Westerners can and do learn the anime style, but it's always a miracle if that happens.
>>7362347NTA but I'd be interested to learn what makes it an incoherent bastardization/Western faux anime. Can you pinpoint the elements which make it that?
>>7362355>Can you pinpoint the elements which make it that?There is hardly a single element in there that does not make it that. If you have watched enough anime without consuming western media or studied the authentic style then it's painfully obvious, that's probably your best way to understand if you're really wishing to gain an understanding and not concern trolling.
>>7362359Not him but it legit just looks like any generic japanese twitter artist. I wouldn't even be surprised if that anon posted that as a gotcha and that's exactly what it is.
>>7362359So what are they? I'm genuinely interested to hear it. You can work by intuition but it always helps when you can actually put a concept into words.
>>7362362The generic twitter style is a different style but even there it's usually possible to tell. Even the Koreans and the Chinese have a distinct look in both their attempt at anime and at the twitter style. This is 100% unapologetically western.
>>7362364Your question is like a severely colorblind person asking the difference between colors he can't perceive. If you can't see it then you don't experimentally know how anime looks in the first place so you have nothing to compare it with. One could give you some kind of objective analysis about the various elements but would it be useful to draw anime? Would describing what is NOT anime without any knowledge of what IS anime help you in any way to create authentic anime?
>>7362367He's just asking you to explain your reasoning in concrete terms instead of vague gestures, because it really looks like the image is fine and you're just wrong.
>>7362367I've watched anime from early childhood, and overwhelming majority of all my media consumption is Japanese 2D media. You don't need to worry about any of that stuff.
>>7362368>concern trollingThat's why it's useless to explain it to somehow who lacks the prerequisites necessary to understand. You can explain colors to a blind person all you want, but it's of no direct use to them in creating art beyond an intellectual curiosity. That image is a perfect textbook definition of the western faux-anime 'style' but to some people it looks 'fine', which only proves this point. Such a person will handwave any explanations away because their eyes are damaged/undeveloped.
>>7362373Then you should already know what I'm talking about.
>>7362375>>7362364
>>7361437Western artists stopped trying to compete in hand drawn cartoons. You butthurt aryan. Your based white men killed comics and cartoons just to chase the profits of pumping out cheap CG tweened trash and now we’ve all been set back 20 years because of their greed
>>7362377>put a concept into wordsYou can't always do this with things requiring experiential visual knowledge. For someone "in the know" the thing screams western, you can try to analyze the individual elements but it's more about how everything combines together too. For someone not in the know, they would lack the ability to understand an explanation even if you were to give one either due to lack of experience with anime or due to a malicious/lazy attitude towards the style.
>>7362382>killed comicsIt was always dead until based Japan came along and did what needed to be done from the beginning. And now the west is trying to destroy anime too.
>>7361437Idk, shindoL made it and hes not japanese
>>7362385>WestIt's just Anglos who have a massive hateboner for anime and anything anime-adjacent. Literally every single fucking time it's USA, UK, Canada or Australia.
>>7361437CRIS
>>7362388True, but sadly the anglos control the rest of the West today. They see the beauty in anime and how it can thwart their plans so they want to subvert and destroy it.There is no place for authentic anime in the "you will own nothing and be happy" technocracy.
>>7362374You haven't said a single thing that demonstrates actual knowledge. It's all pure filibuster. Last reply for you.>>7362386What? Yes he is. Raised in america, but nationally japanese and fluent in the language thanks to his upbringing.
>>7362385The so called elites and people with power are retards. I don't think we have to worry about anything; especially since they're all old and on the way out.
>>7361437If the characters are really attractive, I stop caring about the author's nationality/background and I bet the same is true to almost everyone else on Earth. So basically, there's still hope.
>>7361437If they're not putting their work out in the open, i honestly don't care. If they are, i honestly want to see something special. Anime styles are everywhere. Considering the fact that the asians have a monopoly on good art, its natural westerners would try to imitate it.But, ultimately, westerners are not asians and so an imitation will always be just that, an imitation. Even if its technically sound, its still an imitation. The only way westerners could overcome that status is by doing something special. Westerners necessarily have to push the envelope, even just for recognition sake. Art is competitive as it is already. Even amongst asians, they lie and die by the ratings of their work. Having a Western immitation is cheaper than an asian work, thats just how it is. Either do your own thing or make it special.
>>7361437
>>7362530Japanese artists are imitators just like us. Just because the artists they imitate come from the same country as them doesn't make them any less imitators. And most of those imitations are bad as well.
>>7361437Because I want to.
>>7362530The fake is of far greater value. In its deliberate attempt to be real, it's more real than the real thing
>>7362779Based and caocaopilled
>>7362764And? Toriyama is more valuable than Toyotarou. Obviously they immitate. They might even be able to get away with it. That doesn't change the fact that Anime immitated disney but its successful becuase it did something special. Westerners have to do the same.
I mean, you are not japanese, you will never become equal to the japanese and your drawings too, does the thought of this not make you stop and never draw anime again?
>>7363145>you will never become equal to the japanese and your drawings tooAI solves that
>>7361437Because it looks good? What kind of retarded question is that? Are non-white people not allowed to use perspective because Europeans invented it?
>>7363510Correct.
>>7363145I'm gonna make English-language comics in manga style. Japanese people aren't the intended audience so why would I give a fuck about what they think?
>>7363675I'm going to tell you a little secret: the random anons telling you things like that are not japanese, and do not speak for the japanese. Japanese people are not the ones trying to convince you to not try drawing like them.
Many manga artists are very influenced by european art, and vise versa.
>>7363510Italians are not white
>>7363699Come to think of it, there's no true white race. Aryans? From India and thus not white. Anglos? Perfidious, their whiteness must be stolen goods.Tl;dr: draw in any style you want because racism is an invented system to divide and conquer.
>>7363699They were white before the Arabs invaded. Northern Italians are still pretty white.
>>7361791>the fat bitch with giant nose is anime styleThe Japanese draw cute highschool girls, not obese monsters.
>>7365316>not obese monsters.https://e-hentai.org/tag/female:bbw
>>7365316The only two choices japan offers now are 300 pound linebackers and toddlers, it's grim out there.
>>7365319Thanks for proving my point.
>>7365358You said "japanese don't draw obese monsters" and I'm here to call you out as the lying worm you are.https://e-hentai.org/g/3080086/d4a1ee09f9/https://e-hentai.org/g/3086651/1f53d20ca7/https://e-hentai.org/g/3095447/f0dba00e8d/https://e-hentai.org/g/3095700/918a475333/https://e-hentai.org/g/3101731/a769c61211/https://e-hentai.org/g/3104561/ffdc8e20ae/https://e-hentai.org/g/3107887/6203f127b6/https://e-hentai.org/g/3107217/43ac212073/https://e-hentai.org/g/3104715/575e60ab52/https://e-hentai.org/g/3120118/92a0343e09/https://e-hentai.org/g/3114181/0ac4650a90/I can go on. Plenty of chubby chasers and milf lovers in japan. Faggot. Never step foot on this board again.
>>7365383Among twenty Japanese artists, there will be one who draws fat people. And among twenty western artists there will be one who can draw anime. That doesn't change the fact that most western artists draw bullshit.
>>7365420>japs don't do x>here are some japs that do x>y-yeah but there's not manyPut those goal posts down, bitch. You're caught in a lie. Japs absolutely do draw lardass bitches so acting like that has any bearing on whether something is "anime" or not is straight up retarded.
>>7361437i see those goddamn blue popsicles all the time and i need to know what they taste like
>>7365424Honestly, it's better when the japanese do it. Just like with japanese furries.
>>7365464You know damn well that you'd call pic related "western trash" if somebody posted it out of context.https://e-hentai.org/g/3043398/22a71ee509/It's not difficult to find a jap artist who draws ugly shit. It's not difficult to find a western artist who draws just as ugly shit either. It's almost like it's incredibly easy to find garbage in general...
>>7365424You are a retard. When did i said the japs NEVER draw obese monsters? They might draw retarder garbage and americans can draw cute highschoolers but most of the time, the opposite happens.
>>7365485Right here nigger. >>7365316I've directly quoted it several times already, because your explicit claim that>The Japanese draw cute highschool girls, not obese monsters.is flagrantly wrong. If you didn't mean "never" then why would you bring it up like it somehow proves that that image is "not anime" in your eyes? If japanese artists do in fact sometimes draw fat fucks, why would you bring it up to claim that this drawing of a fat fuck is not anime? Is every single gallery link also "not anime" because they're drawing obese monsters (who also happen to have long noses, by the way)?Pond scum.
>>7362501So youre telling me I can be effortlessly gmi too because I am half japanese? Juat like Larry Shindo-sama from the great land of the rising sun, Queens NY?
>>7365472I assume those are koreans/chinese or weebs living in japan. I'm more often right than not.
>>7365494Who said "effortlessly"? Of course it takes effort. It's just wrong to call the guy "not japanese" when he absolutely is japanese. Not even half japanese afaik.Anyway you don't even need to be japanese to do what he did, there's an aussie on this very board doing the same thing. >>7235162>>7365518Uh-huh, sure. Everyone who draws fatties is secretly a foreigner.Retard. You can assume something moronic all day, just don't spread your retardation to other gullible retards.
>>7365518lol this nip cocksucking never gets old. it's always blatant wrongly stated facts or extremely outdated information of people trying to keep their precious view points of glorious nippon intact
>>7365492Visitors of this board have an intelligence above 100 points. However, some have it within double digits. Perhaps [then] I should have written [my post] in more detail so that [any] imbecile could [read and] understand it(the gist of the words).
I just like anime.I'm not good at the art part tho
>>7365613Where the FUCK is his right knee supposed to be located?
>>7365630in my ass.but its a random drawthread doodle, i didn't care enough to fix it after the fact.
>>7361437OP, are you asking this from stance of "everyone should stick to their cultural style", from the stance of "anime style is lame", or from the stance of "anime style is too difficult for westerners to handle"?
>>7365518>Island netouyo dog wants new nuclear ghouls
Can we just kill these stupid weebcucks?Japs have no power, we nuked them twice for a reason. All of their """art""" belongs to us Americans to steal it and modify it like the lab rats they are.
Useless thread.
My problem with westerners drawing in an anime style is that it's lazy. We already have both the Chinese and Koreans copying Japan, now the west has to too? There are a million styles to draw in expand your mind people.
What's the point?
>>7366101It all comes down to anime girls just being too cute
>>7361437There isn't a point. It's a total meme. Study Shane Glines instead.
>>7369777ugly formless westoid crap no one likes.
>>7361437Trying to become a mangaka is a terrible idea even if you are japanese
>>7361439Hard to get your daily recommended corn syrup intake without soda.
>>7361437There is no point, but it’s because you’re a faggot.
