Pewds is last week. This guy drew for 200 hours and look at his results. What do you think of his progress?
>>7367206https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rss0OwkqBuM&t
all I see is a westoid stuck on their 'muh style' mentality veiled by midwitted attempt at using soience
>>7367206If you watch the first video on his channel, he said he’s “already done a lot of drawing in his life”. He’s not starting as a total beginner, he just said he’s already wasted 10,000~ hours drawing the wrong stuff.
>>7367206not a total beginner. I want an autistic moron like Cris do the 10kbecause 10000 only works on normal people
>>7367308still more progress than pewdiepie's 3/4th anime girl face floating in a white void
>>7367218Do you think he's drawn over 500 hours in his life? He creates a new thread every time after another drawing, about 1-2 times a month. So he draws about a couple times a month, what kind of progress can we talk about here.
>>7367206Why don't you post the before and after instead of making me go watch this shit?
>>7367308he's technically better than pewdiepie (despite the hideous faces here, i don't know why he didn't draw them both out first) but pewdiepie progressed more than him by a long shot
The fact that he's likely drawn hundreds of pages like these in only 200 hours shows that he's probably rushing way too quickly and not absorbing anything that he's practicing. According to his posts a lot of his work is from imagination so he's just making the same mistakes over and over again, leading to >>7367308
>>7367332KEK
>>7367332there's a bunch of perfectly acceptable faces here in trad lineart...so how did this goblina >>7367308 came to be??? top kek
10k hour guy already said he's had drawing experience prior to starting this challenge and his art was around /high/ beg at start so not really a fair comparison.having said that, I still don't get what's so great about pewds drawing progress, he practiced copying heads from reference for a year and can do it decently, observational drawing is progresses much faster then all other art skills, it would be more impressive if he can draw decent heads at different angles from imagination other than that I would say he had about an average progression
>>7367351Because he's guessing. For every ok face there's a horrifying one. Rather than taking his time and really thinking about how to make a properly structured face and reworking some until they look right, he just shits out as many of them as possible.https://www.instagram.com/10.000.hrs/
>>7367332This guy is just gonna end up like 6 months schizo. A whole lot of practice in isolation with nothing to show for it.
>>7367206What I see>Draws various anime girls from FotM showsMeh.What I want to see>Him looking up an anime/manwha artist and studying their style, learning and branching off on his ownI'd love that
>>7367216he basically started as a low int and is just grinding fundies. i don't think people realize that it takes a beg at least a year to get into rotations of forms after getting competent enough at construction and keeping. accurate proportion from reference
>>7367641if you want to see what actual grinding realistically looks for someone who starts around mid-beg that's pikat.She took 5 years to get to her level WITH mentorship from fucking riot artists. And she said she still drew a lot doing copies in HS so she started with some ability to see angles/shapes/proportions that a total beg just doesn't have, but had little understanding of fundamentals like perspective/anatomy.If anything 10k hours is on the unrealistic low end of what to expect to become an art god, you need way way more.
>>7367641>>7367646even this guys current level is not low int>>7367308pikat's starting level when she made her study twitter is closer to low int. and no, im not talking about his painting skill here. it's everything else. this guy is far worse than she was
>>7367651i respectfully disagree, his understanding of anatomy and perspective blows pikats studies after a year out the water. No comment on painting because I truly don't care about digital painting and don't rate it.This is a year into her efforts after getting some help from industry pros, it's high beg/low int.https://youtu.be/Ez82rR2-3i0?si=my2xAB_BfFgDyRs2
>>7367656that said this is horrifying >>7367308 so im going to ignore it. His actual pen studies which includes imagination work and shape rotation shows decent enough drawing ability.
>>7367656i'm not saying she was low int i'm saying she was closer, her skill level was more even across the board (and ignored stuff like perspective, heads) while he's incapable of applying form/etc to anything other than sketches despite practicing all fundies. neither were/are
>>7367656>>7367666>don't care LOLa finished product is all that matters, and this >>7367308 is just major permabeg signal. all those so-called "pen studies" are just brainless copying. it is worth absolutely nothing.
>>7367681but its not copying because they are rotations of references and imagination work which he says in video. And it's in pen, so he's accurately visualizing the forms before placing them.
>>7367692I think you just have very low standards for low int
>>7367693i say this as a low int, but okay yea that's some garbage proportions at work he wasn't even trying.some of the stuff here is good >>7367332 he probably just needs to slow down as another anon said.
>>7367695pyw
>>7367365>6 months schizo>>7367737>>7367727>>7367716>>7367715
>>7367641>he basically started as a low intLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>>7367811let's see your rotations of the figure in pen
>>7367814>he basically started as a low intAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>7367829that's just rust >>7367216 . no one gets up to perfect construction and rotation in perspective after 100 hours of drawing.here's another int artist at a somewhat higher level doing the exact same studieshttps://youtu.be/HHSsDvaRxIk?si=BxKOec4Q2zexHQce
I'm not sure I've ever seen this board cope harder than when they see pewdiepie starting from shit and drawing better than them in 3 months when they've been (thinking about) drawing for 10 years
>>7367833It's all about talent
>>7367216>he said he’s “already done a lot of drawing in his life”.>>7367832Sorry little copelet, but nohttps://youtu.be/GPLImB-I71w?si=_57OOXv0LJtG886P&t=231>another thing was that people said that I had an art background. that was like a rumor that went around, and I guess I take that as a compliment, but no I do not. I had not started art. that was the whole point of this video. I was not being disingenuous, I have not drawn since I was a kid.
>>7367838are you functionally retarded, this isn't about pew.
>>7367834no nigga, it's all about actually picking up a pencil and actively trying to improve. just fucking draw, howie.
>>7367841I can't look at what I tried to do. The girl from arcane and my fucking attempt was >>7367716
>>7367834ah yes, the talent of insight to what went wrongalthough if that is "talent" it would explain why some people are super fucking stupid
>>7367843Talent is the blood, talent is determinism. He who will improve was born to improve. I wasn't born with talent
>>7367842>the girl
>>7367840it's all the same shit>guy shows entire art journey>[period of time] later his stuff is decent>/ic/ comes up with 7000 excuses why they're unable to do the same thingcontinue not drawing though I guess. Surely you'll be good some day while you think about the concept of drawing something worthwhile.
>>7367850> 7000 excusesokay except in this case he's already drawn 1000s of hours. And I'm better than him anyway I have nothing to prove to myself.
>>7367834
>>7367206>>mileagewe already know thatgive me the easy way to draw
>>7367855in a course rn, so shu su schizo
>>7367859prompt and trace, fix minor errors like shitty hands /feet and misaligned pupils.
>>7367854>. And I'm better than him anyway I have nothing to prove to myself.if you think he's "low int", I have a feeling you're way, way worse than you think you are.
>>7367965verified off the most recent rate thread
>>7367982this has to be a joke
>>7367988maybe you should pyw if you think doing figure construction and accompanying rotations of them is a pedestrian beg skill on this board.
>>7367996my work has been rated everything from low beg to high int on rate threads. Using that as your credentials has to be one of the absolute dumbest fucking things I've ever heard someone say.
>>7367999i just gave you my lowest rating anon, in my soul I feel like a low int.> Using that as your credentials has to be one of the Those are the creds the site goes by, what you are rated at is what you are. There is no semi-objective metric otherwise, even this thread is proof of that.
>>7368004>Those are the creds the site goes by, what you are rated at is what you are.which is why this board is utterly worthless.
>>7368010That cognitive dissonance must be going hard eh anon
>>7367332>>7367206>>7367832You can shit on the flaws of those drawings all day, but it doesn't change the fact that these guys are GMI. It is an uncomfortable truth, they have no secret methods, don't seem extraordinary in any way, they just keep at it consistently. Even their way of practice is inefficient, but it doesn't matter in the end, they get good anyways. What does this say about you? All these years of "drawing". Maybe it was just drawing every other week and it is hard to admit.
>>7368037schizo retard who can't read
>>7367308>>7367656>>7367692>>7367695anon... 10000hrs chud is barely high /beg/. he's hitting a barrier that's preventing him from crossing into int territory. this anons >>7367332 got it on the money that he's purely going for volume and not spending time balancing both mileage and quality. His drawings might look "int" or impressive to you but that's only because he's shitting these out so often that he's accidentally getting an int drawing when his actual level is mid-high beg. after checking out his instagram, EVERY study post he's done has taken 1 hour or less for a page of a dozen or so low ass quality studies. Doing a majority of these from imagination is only hurting him in the long run too. he's reinforcing what he doesn't know and it shows. my mans been watching too much tom fox draws (even though tom fox fucking sucks too) Not to mention >>7367308 LMAOAt least Pikat has a much better design sense, painting ability and visual library. maybe she won't be able to rotate cubes as well as 10000hrs chud but she sure as hell knows HOW to use the cube better than he does.
>>7368037I didn't say any of that and I draw daily because it's my fucking job
>>7368039I think they were talking about early pikat, not her current skill level. Or I'd hope so.
>>7368044that's for pointing that out anon, I missed it >>7367646. scratch my pikat part out then, i was talking out of my ass. the rest still stands though.
>>7368044yes, she's arguably low pro now.>>7368039they probably do need to do some longer studies if this is an indication of their command over proportion >>7367693 (jfc) but the idea that you can't learn stuff from mass quick observational drawing is just absurd. picrel is vilppu life gestures, which he and every animator recommends doing.
>>7368051>he's purely going for volume and not spending time balancing both mileage and quality.that's the thing anon, he's not doing observational stuff. i agree, you definitely will learn a lot from observation and life drawing, but if you check >>7368049 lads only doing shoddy photo studies and uninformed imagination work, not observational or life drawing.
>>7368056photo studies are observational drawing, tho I agree he should start adding in some life drawing as well.I don't think the way he's going about studying is wrong tho,> draw from reference> tweak it> try from imaginationis literally in Loomis' bible. And 1-2 hours is plenty of time for a good study session.
need some redpills on Pikat
>>7368059The problem is with photo studies you are basically copying lines. With real observational studies/life studies you are interpreting form.
>>7368497NTA, I might be stupid but what is the difference between photos studies and observational studies?You are always studying from photos, unless you use as a reference someone else's work.
>>7368500Real life doesnt have lines to copy
>>7368500Try it and find out. You’ll notice there absolutely is a difference between copying a photo and drawing from life. People in the life drawing thread have explained it better than I have though. >>7341057#>>7346469#
>>7368039>design sense, painting ability and visual libraryhow many gigabytes of coloso courses do I need to hoard to develop this?
