Why you should not trust youtube shills:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284Do not worry pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.Remember to ignore all chinese shills. They often post paid twitter promos from random artists. It's all shilling, ignore it.Recommended tablets:>Screenless:Used Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom>Display:Small (10-11"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 LiteMedium (12-16"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S8/S9 Ultra, used iPad Pro 12.9" Gen 1-5Large (22"+): Cintiq 22, Cintiq Pro 27Avoid:>XP-Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand making Wacom imitationsPoor build quality, pens with wavy lines, wobbly nibs, broken tilt, issues registering light pressure, terrible customer support, uncalibrated displays. All Chinese brands have the same problems. Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.Do not be fooled by myths like "Chink companies are just as good as Wacom now" - they've been saying this for over 10 years, nothing has changed.Chinese companies have also been proven to shill on 4chan. You will see dozens upon dozens of posts in this thread by a chinese schizo shill, who will either be bitching about the OP, gaslighting as a Wacom fan, making pointless spam posts or giving terrible advice (like recommending Huion). Just ignore and report him.>New iPadsMassively overpriced and overhyped.>Microsoft Surface ProMore optimized for palm rejection than good quality drawing. Wobbly lines when drawing slow and straight.>Cintiq 13-16"Completely outclassed by the Galaxy Tab Ultra & iPad>Cintiq Pro 16, 24, 32Overpriced, QC issues, loud fans, proprietary mount interface>LenovoWorse than Samsung in every way.Previous: >>7362418
>>7369731>Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.
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>>7369734
>He literally spent over half an hour talking to himselfLMAO
Is there any reason to upgrade my M1 iPad? The new one is only .1" bigger.
>>7369779He's spent over 3 hours before posting in every thread on the board.
>>7369731>>7369733>>736973>>7369736pyw wacum guzzler
I have never used a tablet before. I am however very experienced with trad, and not a noob drawing in general. I just want to transition smoothly to digital for doing animation.What tablet should I put on my Christmas list that is, let's say, under $500?
>>7369824cintiq pro 27 or nothing you moron
>>7369819Chong you failed us. You let Wacoman create the new thread, and it was like a walk in the park for him. We expected a battle for supremacy a revolution against the wacom tyranny, and we got more of the same, again.
>>7369824Magic drawing pad is turning out to be a favorite this year, and its a standalone like a galaxy tab if you like to be portable or draw outside.You can also do the 13-16" range of huion and xppen display tablets, just find the biggest and newest one in your budget.
>>7369731>>7369732>>7369733>>7369734>>7369736Here OP, you dropped this
>>7369732>>7369733New updated webms
>>7369895
>>7369852when he is going to post his work tho
>>7369895>>7369897where's your updated work
>>7369906this one >>7369897 is meI posted my work in the last thread.
>>73699183 people posted their work last thread. 2 were usimg magic drawing pad, and one was a /beg/ with pencil and paper.Which one are you, then?
this thread should be posting your tablet and artwork, this way we can tell what tablet is better and make you actually get good at drawing so we dont fell for beg tablets>xp pen deco pro medium
>>7370015GREAT GOOGLY MOOGLY
>>7369998>Which one are you, then?
>>7370030Based goblin anon
>>7370015Tbh there could straight up be another thread for that but yeah might as well just do that in here, why not?
Wacom cintiq pro 24, 900 USD lightly used
>>7370015Getting of those from an Intuos S was a major upgrade.
>>7370030what happened to it?
>>7369819>>7370089
posting the real OP.This is a thread to discuss all kinds of digital drawing hardwareRecommended tablets:>Pen tablets (non display)Wacom Intuos proHuion InspiroyXencelab Pen TabletXP Pen Deco 01 v2 / Pro>Display tabletsWacom Cintiq proHuion Kamvas plus/proXP-Pen Artist seriesXencelab Pen display>Mobile tabletsXppen magic drawing pad (best drawing experience)Apple iPad Pro (3rd gen for new pen/reduced bezel, 6th gen for hover)Samsung Galaxy TabSurface Pro 8/9Kamvas studio 16>What tablets does /dtg/ use?https://strawpoll.com/polls/NoZrLOmrDn3>General guidelines when picking a tablet:- All of the recommended models are part of large lines with multiple sizes/generations available. Buy the biggest/newest in your budget. Medium-Large pen tablets or 16-24" display tablets are considered the sweet spot by most artists.- If you don't see a tablet you're interested in listed, ask about it. This isn't a definitive list, just one to give you an idea where to start looking.-Tape paper over your pen tablet if you want a more traditional drawing feel- Wacom is still the industry standard, but they're overpriced and a lot of pros and studios are switching. Chinese brands have caught up in the past few years and will provide a near identical user experience for a fraction of the price.>Recommended Software:Clip Studio PaintPhotoshopProcreateInfinite PainterRebelleKrita or hipaint if you're poor>Display Calibration tools:https://www.eizo.be/monitor-test/http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/icc_profilesIgnore the Wacum Guzzler.
>>7370015I use a Deco Pro MW and my art looks like this.I'm not very good but it definitely made drawing easier as I can rotate the canvas with the dial, making it incredibly comfortable for me.10/10 Its okay, would recommend the Deco pro as the best choice for screenless.
>>7370171>>7370015How easy is it to get used to the disconnect between your hand and the screen? How do you know where your pen is on the picture before you start a line?newfag questions I know, but it's not like there are demo stations for these things at best buy or something
>>7370161that's not you though guzzler
>>7370186Its down to practice and getting used it, like riding a bike, its a bit confusing and slow at first but its just a matter of doing it. Thats the only way I can explain it. The dial actually makes it much more natural for me since I rotate the paper around a lot.
>>7370190Nah, it's me. Here's a shitty photo from my phone camera
>>7370202I'm saying you're not OP
>>7370202Lol so you got kicked out of /asg/ to become the wacum schizo?
>>7370209No i still post there xD
>>7370161this is so pathetic, is the guzzler actually trying to claim someone else's art as his own now?
What's the ideal display tablet size for animation? I'm currently on a Wacom 13hd and it's too small. I don't want to have to zoom in at any point.
>>7370285just check op, he menti- oh wait sorry it's the worthless op that doesn't actually give any information. 16-24". personally I think 22-24 is ideal, but it depends on desk space. This is a thread to discuss all kinds of digital drawing hardwareRecommended tablets:>Pen tablets (non display)Wacom Intuos proHuion InspiroyXencelab Pen TabletXP Pen Deco 01 v2 / Pro>Display tabletsWacom Cintiq proHuion Kamvas plus/proXP-Pen Artist seriesXencelab Pen display>Mobile tabletsXppen magic drawing pad (best drawing experience)Apple iPad Pro (3rd gen for new pen/reduced bezel, 6th gen for hover)Samsung Galaxy TabSurface Pro 8/9Kamvas studio 16>What tablets does /dtg/ use?https://strawpoll.com/polls/NoZrLOmrDn3>General guidelines when picking a tablet:- All of the recommended models are part of large lines with multiple sizes/generations available. Buy the biggest/newest in your budget. Medium-Large pen tablets or 16-24" display tablets are considered the sweet spot by most artists.- If you don't see a tablet you're interested in listed, ask about it. This isn't a definitive list, just one to give you an idea where to start looking.-Tape paper over your pen tablet if you want a more traditional drawing feel- Wacom is still the industry standard, but they're overpriced and a lot of pros and studios are switching. Chinese brands have caught up in the past few years and will provide a near identical user experience for a fraction of the price.>Recommended Software:Clip Studio PaintPhotoshopProcreateInfinite PainterRebelleKrita or hipaint if you're poor>Display Calibration tools:https://www.eizo.be/monitor-test/http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/https://tftcentral.co.uk/articles/icc_profileshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avJTz1JhkR4 (Use this guide to roughly calibrate your display if you don't want to invest hundreds into a colorimeter you'll only use a few times)Previous: >>7350131
>>7370287Put me shit in there somewhere pleasehttps://rentry.org/dtg
>wake up>10 hours of chinese seethingGood.
>>7370310>wake up>guzzle wacum>don't post work to show how superior le wacum is>act smugsuch is the life of the gross guzzler
>>7370409>don't post workhe doesn't draw, never has, and never will.
Procrebros how do I stop it from drawing when I mean to erase and vice verse
>>7370473How are you even having this issue bro
>>7370409>>7370422That's the catch all. No matter what he will post as long as>>7370287>>7370298exist, they'll both just be better sources of info than his schizo ass.>>7370409Describe the exact issue. Are you selecting erase and somehow having it draw or is it drawing despite you using a pen with an eraser, and if the latter what particular pen model is it?
>>7370797Meant the last quote for this>>7370473
I'm huion-anon with driver issues from the previous thread. My 15.6 pro xp-pen arrived. No driver issues so far, no disconnection, pretty good feel. I don't like the "paper-like" protector they automatically put on top. Something about digital trying to imitate trad too much feels wrong. It should feel like rubbing plastic
this thread is absolutely schizophrenic
>>7370803You can get a matte screen protector and replace the paperlike one.
>>7370158i ate it urp sorry
>>7370885thanks anon!
what kinda schizo cintiq paypig makes these threads?I got a huion 22, gonna upgrade to a 24 pro soon, im excited
>>7370933Which one did you choose between 120hz and 4k? Kind of undecided on it myself
>>7370933>>7370981Wait wrong brand lmao nvm
How long do huion felt nibs last?
>>7371261about 20h its a cheap chinese trash
>>7371261really just depends how hard you press and how much you draw. my xppen felt nib lasted ~1 month with 3-5 hours drawing a day
>>7369732>>7369733Fucking lies.
>>7371261Same as other felt nibs. Depends on usage and if your screen is textured or not.>>7371313A felt nib is a felt nib, theyre all the same.>>7371339The first one is real but its from 2019 and has since been fixed.
>>7371397the 2nd one is real too but the retard had other tablet drivers installed and pointed out in the same video that they were able to fix it through calibration.
>>7371397>The first one is real but its from 2019 and has since been fixed.Whenever Wacom start lying they only have themselves to blame when people see everything else as lies.I will make sure not to buy anything Wacom from this point on and that jew aaron rutten is a shill even though he has said that he isn't
I have debris that's really stuck in the fucking screen and it drives me insane trying to clean it
>>7370158
>>7371440Use compressed airImagine not having a bonded screen in 2024
>>7369731can we have a workstation or art setup thread?
>>7371903Ok go make one then. Its not gonna happen here bc of the schizo.
Guys... I finally went to an Apple store and tried out a new iPad pro for drawing and... my S6 Lite is just as good. Literally no difference in drawing quality except the iPad has better palm rejection and screen size. I almost bought a $2k tablet for no improvement.
I’m thinking of turning my old gaming pc into an art tool by pairing it with a big pen display (let’s say around 22” or possibly even bigger).Is wacum realistically still the only good option here? What’s a good option available in Australia that doesn’t cost a kidney?
>>7371972If you live in 2019, yeah.If you live in 2024, no. Wacom hasn't had a monopoly in years.
>>7371972If you're a beginner, you shouldn't even be buying a tablet. Learn to draw with paper first before letting the chinese shill con you into buying some low quality crap.
>>7371982I’m not a beginnerI can draw on paper I like digital painting and am looking to upgrade from my surface proI am open to any good quality solution
>>7371998Then go grab a used Cintiq 22/22HD off ebay. Plenty in the used market and still used in studios.
I have a spare ipad air 3 that I wanted to give away, its a little banged up in the back so it doesn't really have any resell value, but its perfectly functional device that has been factory reset. I would prefer to give it to someone who will use it to draw, so I'll include pencil 1 and its adapters. I was looking for a way to do it without having to give away my address tho.
>>7371998Kamvas 22 plus is still probably the best bang for your buck tablet on the market, and will continue to be until they release something at the same price point with 2.5k/4k resolution. But literally just buy anything from wacom/huion/xppen/xencelab with etched glass made in the last 3 years and you'll be fine. It doesn't matter anymore. Tablets are basically solved tech now. Don't be retarded and buy a 5-10 year old cintiq just because it says wacom on it. Look at specs and features and buy something that's suitable for your needs.
>>7369732no matter how many years go by, someone will post that shit in this thread every time, right?
>>7372097>someone
this thread serves no point, after so many years there should be a link on the sticky refering to the top tablets (screen/less) ranking the top 3 each.i have a very small youtube channel and is funny how some brands, specially huion and xp pen fill my email to chill their tablets, at the moment i told xp pen that if i dont get the 22 inches screen tablet i wouldnt even mention their brand and i think they gonna give up and send that to me lmao.the thing is that knowing how agressive these brands promote their shit it wouldnt be a surprise that someone is being paid to chill bootleg tablets on one of the largest forums of art and systematically wait the bump limit, or should i say bait people into replying to get the thread goin on again because if you havent noticed this is one of the most active threads when is a topic that should be solved once per year and be pinned.
>>7372238I like the part where instead of showing the emails you just say they exist instead.
>>7372238>plebbit spacingguzzle guzzle
70% isopropyl is completely fine for Cintiq screens right? Nobody's had any problems?
Holy fuck the XP Pen site is so bad. Just show me a list of the products and when I click show the specs and a a couple pictures. What the fuck is this endless scrolling and animation shit. Really makes me not want to buy
>>7372045Stop trying to scam him into buying your worthless huion garbage you stupid chinese idiot.
>>7372788>Just show me a list of the products and when I click show the specs and a a couple pictures.literally no tablet company does this. >>7372783I would water it down a bit. I use a 1:1 99% iso and distilled water mix, with 70% just to make it easy probably 1.5:1
>>7372798hey can you post your work? the chineses among us already did
>>7372812>>7372798>>7372097>>7372045>>7372238I could be wrong but I get the impression there is an ongoing shill feud going on in these threads.But it surely shouldn't be hard to establish which shill is more full of shit right, given the maturity of the tech? Either a tablet performs acceptably or it doesn't.
>>7372878I wish I could get paid to shitpost on 4chan all day. there's one guy that's obsessed with wacom and the chinese, and there's the rest of the thread that just says get what's in your budget because chinese tablets aren't the worthless e-waste of yesteryear.
>>7372878The OP is recommending used production-grade tablets that can be bought from ebay, craigslist, gumtree, etc.Who is the OP shilling on behalf of? The wide array of secondhand sellers selling their gear? Do you suppose every person selling their Wacoms and iPads unionized and collectively hired someone to shill their unwanted hardware on /ic/?Here's the reality:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284These two are talking about XP Pen and Huion. They are notorious for aggressively shilling their shit everywhere, and stand to profit from sales. They expect reviewers to only post positive reviews, and if you highlight anything negative, they either demand withdrawing the review, or they start hurling mountains of abuse your way.Aaron Rutten in particular is very critical of chinese tablets, highlighting all their issues and why he personally doesn't like using them. As soon as he started doing this, he started receiving a barrage of abuse in all his videos, which bares an uncanny resemblance to all the abusive posts toward the OP in these threads. It's almost like there's some kind of entity reacting with extreme hostility toward anyone who dares criticize chinese tablet brands.
>>7372892it's hilarious you say "the op" as if it's not youpost your work, guzzler
I can see the big Australian retailers have the iPad Air on sale for Black Friday but not the Pro, which makes the value proposition harder for the ProIs 128GB enough?
>>7372951>Is 128GB enough?More than enough. You should be setting up network storage anyway.Look at the Galaxy Tab models as well. The S8 Ultra is 15", has an OLED panel and was discounted to $900 AUD at one stage.
What would you guys recommend for programs on a galaxy tab? I've been using infinite painter which I liked a lot, but it's started crashing and deleting shit. I'm about to go nuclear
>>7372961KritaIbis PainterMedibangArtflowArtrageDon't get the chinese spyware.
>>7372961UnluckyCsp and hipaint are the best alternatives to infinite painter
>>7372960thanks, what are your thoughts on the benefits of iPad Pro's OLED and refresh rate for art?
>>7372974>hipaintChinese spyware. AVOID.
>>7373006Would you kill yourself already?
>>7373006Yes please show me now that these programs do not have that tag now:Krita, Ibis Paint, Medibang, Artflowand we arent even gonna talk about Artrage anymore, its abandonware that crashes constantly and severely limits canvas size.You dont even use any of these programs, nodraw.
>>7373044Krita is free and open source you laughable little chinese idiot.
>>7371998I love my xencelabs 24, it's got better drivers than wacom, you get a slim pen and regular size, and a shortcut remote thats like the intuos 4 buttons and a wheel. Nice etched glass, color correct, doesnt run hot but also has no loud fans inside it. Veteran Wacom employees that left the company when it got lame and greedy teamed up with each other and a few disney animators to design tablets again and continue from where they left off.It feels like this is what cintiqs should have become, but they decided to cheap out and charge extra instead.Second place to this is the huion 4k kamvas 24", and then after that would be the new xppen 24". If you're into the 16" size of tablets, just pick between wacom/huion, and if you want a cheap portable 13" then go for magic drawing pad.
Beware the chinese shillbot: >>7373057
>>7373051Yes krita has no trackers but uh-oh, whats this? Lmao you have gotta be kidding me, THIS is why you wouldnt show us the other apps huh?>>7373006>>7372963
>>7373061Yes thank you schizo, every brand mentioned in that post is made in china and designed by chinese now. Good of you to finally realize it and point it out.
>>7373103>chong made another collage imageAnd you're trying to claim you don't have a vested interest in selling your crappy Huions and XP Pens. Embarrassing.Nobody is downloading your spyware either, stupid shill.
>>7373161>Nobody is downloading your spyware either, stupid shill.You recommended it. You know 2 of those apps are worse than the one you shit on for being spyware? Kek.How are the camboys doing tonight, schizo? You tip them a lot today?
>>7373103Wow, this is really fucking embarrassing lmfao
>>7369731>Used Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacomwhy used lmao?+
>>7373197The entire op is just ragebait.
>>7373197When he wrote it, that was the only way he could compete in price with the other brands, so he wrote that people need to buy used ipads and wacoms. Before this, he would laugh and call everyone who didnt want one a poor person, obviously it just got him ignored or made fun of.
I just got an email from wacom practically begging me to shill their tablets lolI have like 300 followers? How is this even beneficial for them? I'm going to tell them to send me a cintiq 27 or they can pound sand.
>>7373212post the email, chinese shill
Just got me a Huion Inspiroy RTM 500. Can't wait to get home to try it
>>7372892>Aaron Rutten in particularWhy are you so obsessed with Aaron rutten? I just skimmed the comment (not even comments plural because most videos are lucky if they get more than one) on his recent videos and didn't see anything like what you're describing. If the Chinese shillbot brigade existed like you pretend it does, wouldn't every video get bombarded with negativity? Wouldn't he get called the wacumguzzler? Dude gets like 2-3k views on average. I'm starting to buy the guzzler is Aaron tinfoil hat theory, would explain his weird famboyism for wacom, krita all of the sudden since it looks like thats what aaron is using now, and why he never posts any work because it could probably be traced back to him.
>>7373221You don't need to keep pretending to be the third person, chinese idiot.You know he started disabling comments on his videos because you were spamming abuse on every single video he uploaded, even ones unrelated to tablets. You did this because you're an angry shillbot who didn't like his criticisms of your shitty chinese tablets, or that he exposed your marketing practices.Once again:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlATells us everything we need to know about you disingenuous chinese pricks. Your tablets are worthless garbage, which is precisely why you resort to coercion tactics.To everyone reading, take this as a warning. Stay FAR AWAY from XP Pen and Huion. These are dirty, nasty companies who make, dirty, nastly, poor quality products.
>>7373229Third person? What the fuck are you talking about?And no, comments aren't disabled on any of his new videos. I went all the way back to a xencelab review from 3 years ago and comments still weren't disabled. And there was no "abuse" in the like 20 comments it had.
>>7373232>And no, comments aren't disabled on any of his new videosHis most recent video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhf3_kNjAuY>Comments are turned off. Learn moreGee, that was easy. Good job you stupid chinese moron.
>>7373234I just skimmed random ones. This is his 2nd most recent Why does he randomly decide to turn them off on some? It's like every other video has comments turned off apparently and all the ones I clicked on just happened to be ones they weren't. Is he a schizo? Just more evidence pointing towards you being him lmfao
>>7373234>includes paid promotionOh noOh no oh noAaron rutten is literally shilling products LMAOOO
Guys, do NOT trust youtube shills!
>>7373237It happened when his viewers started asking why his top 10 list is all wacom every time, and asked if he was being paid to do this. Lol. It has nothing to do with dtg, it's been going on since before this thread.
>>7373240Does he like ipads too?
>>7373244Every wacom video I click on says it has paid promotion
is funny how free shitty tablets and less than 500 bucks for vid fucked up your channel and now you cant have a real opinion on tablets or your vids get spam but aside from that, u draw like shit, all your info about tablets means nothing
>>7373249It's literally all wacom tablets and labeled paid promotion. Truly the youtuber we can trust! OP said so!
>>7373252Wait this guy's had his art YouTube channel since 2006. Almost 20 years and this is his artistic ability? Wacom isn't getting their money's worth
>>7373256there's no need to out-schizo him either
>>7373262All of his wacom review videos and top 10 lists are paid endorsements. He's quite literally a shill.
>>7372978really hoping for some artist feedback here as tech youtubers are dogshit.I also wonder if issues like PWM and burn-in are an actual problem with tandem oled
>>7373271The galaxy tabs have OLED, I've drawn on mine for hours at a time, fallen asleep with it on, left tv playing on it for my dog, and so far nothing bad has happened to it.I think to get OLED burn in you have to really try. Maybe if I always had CSP up and nothing else and never opened or closed the menus, after a while it might burn in? I know it has happened with OLED TV from logos on the corner, but its much easier to leave a TV on something 24/7 than a tablet.
>>7373221Kek holy shit we always said it as a joke but that would be the funniest thing if it was true
>>7373266Aaron should really work on his art skills.How can he still be worse than me? I spent many years not drawing, and yet I'm still ahead in terms of skill.That said, I doubt anyone watches Aaron for his art, mostly for tutorials or reviews.
>>7370287>calibrate your displayWhich setting should I pick on my monitor for the color space? The claimed specs are>95% DCI-P3>factory-calibrated sRGB with DeltaE <1
>>7373161>chong absolutely btfo me again>You're shilling Huions and XP Pens because you posted some apps!>I'll repeat the point that I just got btfo againare you literally retarded?
>>7373439Do you do graphics for printing? If yes you might as well go with P3.P3 has wider range of colors, which is a positive for printed media.Do you do stuff mostly for screens? Then srgb is a no brainer.The real question is if the calibration is properly done, and was it done for the Hz you're using? Different speeds can spell different gamma curves.The pros of a srgb mode is that everything should look right by default.If you want to handle P3 proper, you should enable color profiles and support on browsers and apps.Or maybe you don't give a shit, and will do like me, just hammer colors to gamma 2.2 and enjoy the rich greens and reds, and who cares if the plebs see things a little more washed out.On phone they'll likely look the same, I don't think I've ever seen P3 phone display ever clamping standard content to srgb, but my phone is not up to date.
>>7373439What anon said, but I'd say its worth renting a colorometer for the day from a photography shop, should be between $10-$30 per day. Download free open source colorometer software, plug it in, calibrate all your monitors, and you're good.
Guzzler's been real quiet since every aaron video was shown to be paid reviews
>>7373736Ordered an XP-Pen Artist 19 Pro recently.How is Aaron feeling?
>>7373490>>7373574Thank you anons, I only do anime art and enjoy the “desaturated” look so I guess sRGB is my pick. Though my multiple monitors (laptop and gaming 4k screen) being slightly different is still annoying so I need to check if someone local has a colorimeter rental service.
About what table size in inches or cm would you recommend to a beginner. I have big hands if that makes a difference
>>737382116-24 display, medium-large non display
Beginner artist, like REALLY beginner.I found a Bamboo CTH-670 for free.Is this thing any good ?
>>7374053For free that's decent. Go for it.
>>7374053If it works you just hit the jackpot
is a 13 inch display enough for a /beg/
So, I just went to the store and tried out the 13” Air and Pro at the same time in Procreate. For normal drawing/painting, I couldn’t detect a material benefit to the higher refresh rate, only when I did large fast squiggly lines. The Pro’s OLED looked a bit nicer I guess. Yet I can’t shake the feeling that if I go for the Air it’ll be eating away at me that I didn’t go for the better one. But if I get the better one I’ll be thinking why did I spend so much for an art toy. So I guess I’m no closer to a decision
>>7374105Learning how to control your arm is pretty important for a beginner. I don't think size correlates with skill level.
>>7374129>I don't think size correlates with skill levelkekwouldn't a bigger screen be easier for a beginner though?
>>7374136Sorry, I meant like moving up in size as you get better.
>>7369731The author obviously has OCD, it's impossible how he punctually posts the same shitty thread for years without mentioning absolutely anything interesting about graphics tablets, he doesn't even mention any news about new Wacom products, nothing, it's just an autistic board of personal tastes of a schizophrenic, morbidly obese Jewish man with big tits and paranoid about China.
>>7374129I just want things to be as easy as possible lol
>>7374159A tiny tablet probably is not going to be easy, I can tell you that much.
>>7374138He mistook a brand new freshly released cintiq for a huion one time, he didnt bother to read it and he didn't even know wacom was coming out with new stuff. He just flipped out on everyone because $3k can buy you 2 used cintiqs or something instead of ching chong tablet that fall apart in 1 month. Had no clue he was being retarded.He's perpetually stuck in 2017 or something. He also will compulsively reply to certain things, no matter how stupid he will look if he does, and no matter hard he tries not to. Definitely mentally ill.
>>7374127none of this shit matters for art. you can get a 3rd gen pro and it will serve you just as well as the latest model.
>>7374238Thanks, it had been hard to get a clear answer on the 60hz issue. I don’t want to buy used so the Air would be the only plausible alternative
>>7373820just so you know colours on monitors start to drift after a while which means you're gonna have to recalibrate your screen like usually every 6 months
>power goes out, computer turns back on>display tablet does the no signal power saving thing for some reason>try the driver switch method because it worked last time>doesn't fucking work for whatever reason
>>7373757>How is Aaron feeling?I think he might have killed himself
>>7369731>Avoid>New iPadsI'm a newfag who's about to buy one because I want to learn how to draw but at the same time I want to use it for other stuff (no computer). Should I do this?
why are there like 4 tablet threads up? did the wacom schizo get so btfo that he's pretending the general he wants to monopolize no longer exists?
>>7374919Yes. Multiple times in a row.>>7374229>>7374138>>7373256>>7373254>>7373249>>7373103
>>7374919which one is the most active one I don't care about the chink infestation I just want help troubleshooting
>>7374957just post in the general.>>7374904While I didn't really like my ipad that much, it's probably your best computer replacement short of getting something like a kamvas studio or surface pro that have normal windows. I love my magic drawing pad, but for general media consumption (youtube, netflix, browsing twitter, discord, whatever) ipads feel better to use.
>>7374957Here's fine.What's your OS, tablet model, driver version, and issue? In what programs do you have problems? What have you already tried to troubleshoot the problem?
>>7375002windows 10, huion kamvas 13, picrel, and >>7374767as i said previously after a power outage/computer restart I got put into the no signal power saving death sentence, I'm almost certain it's a driver problem and not a hardware problem since the previous time I fixed it i switched to another driver and switched back but now even that isn't working.i know this is an extremely common problem because I've tried almost every solution offered by people who've had the same problem on youtube to no avail. to my knowledge, everything has been updated accordingly and I haven't found anything on the software side that has changed. i feel like I'm in a limbo of screwed but the solution will eventually come.
>>7375015Have you tried it on another computer or with a different cable to rule those out?
>>7375021the only PC in my house belongs to me and this is the only cable I have. The whole thing was working fine before the computer restarted.
>>7374973Would you recommend I get some cheap laptop plus kamvas studio or whatever instead of a ipad?
>>7375037a kamvas studio 16 is a standalone laptop, there would be no reason to get a cheap laptop in addition to it. But they're like $1500 and I don't really think they're worth it if they're not exactly what you're looking for.just get the ipad.
>>7374973how is the mpd for book reading?
>>7375047it's fine honestly. I think people way overplay how bad the tablet is for normal use. it's a pretty basic android tablet in that regard. I've never used a kindle but it having the matte screen I imagine it's kind of similar to them.
best angle for drawing in a tablet?
>>7374973>I love my magic drawing padNobody cares you chinese shillbot idiot.
>>7374973>I love my magic drawing padthanks for sharing! I'm going to order one and then download hipaint on it!
>>7375124I was hoping you killed yourself. Any comment on literally every one of rutten's review/recommendation videos being literal shilling?
Chang, I know you're getting restless over the OP again, especially because it's black friday season. This is why you've desperately been trying to engineer conversation and posts in a thread barely anyone cares about.Sorry, but your Huions and XP Pens are worthless garbage, and you will not be shilling them in the OP :)
>>7375154How does it feel to get btfo in your beloved thread, and then over and over again in every other tablet thread you make to distract people from it? It just makes you look like the biggest pussy.
>>7375154>in a thread barely anyone cares about.You care. A lot.
>>7375154We know you like to project, so youre telling us you:>Are starting to get restless over controlling the OP post next thread>Have a NEED to keep the OP during black friday for shilling>Are desperately engineering conversation in threads no one cares about (the 4 tablet threads you made that didnt take off?)>Dont even trust that your products are good enough on their own anymore, now you have to resort to putting down the competition while shilling your ownYeah ok sounds about right for wacum schizo.What were you even doing all day, man? You dont draw. Were you busy with the camboys?
>>7375082why is there a cumstain on your screen
>>7375172Wacoomers literally jack off to the wacom logo.
>>7375082>that fucking horrific messI know your pain anon
>>7375172was drawing porn
hey op, you can just post here, really. I'm just going to post the aaron shill shit every thread from now on, no need to wait this one out hoping it goes away.
>>7374767During a storm or during a random power outage? If it was a storm your device could be bricked, but you'll need to test with a different USB port and with a different cable
