If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artmangapose.comline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.>Cool teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru Hayashi>Cool booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7398949
Some mega man OC sketch. There were errors so I won't finish it
Raita study repost. Should I ink and colour?
>>7402624thanks, it workswhat's the point of the delay anyway? didn't see this in sai or csp
what if i dont want to grind 1000 boxes
>>7402999Doesn't the Megaman style have bigger eyes?It does look ok, just that if you want to make it look like it came from megaman, you need to change some stuff.
>>7403025what's better?
10000 heads, you have 72 hours, gohad some fun with the pencil and penI never drew a human being as you can seewill do my studiesalso the gun is looking in a different direction than the silencer attached to it and didnt calculate the details positionbut anyways it was funshould I try to shade it with the pen and make it a scene?
>>7403085redwindow
Today I doodled
how does this look besides the head being a bit too big? I might just keep it huge lel
I continue to draw and have maximum "FUN"
And today's "fun"
>>7402985i am trying to understand form (symbol drawing) and gestures/gesture drawing and i am looking for templates of other people's skenches to use as templates to studyyou know, to have an idea what i am doing wrong with my cylinders and bean bags
>>7403254>symbol drawingyou have no idea what terms mean, go back
>>7403262>go backTo where?/ic/ is ground zero, there's nothing below this hell hole.
this is the drawing where i applied 2 months of 4fun studying to
>>7403182>>7403186i wonder if its better to be a permabeg and have fun scribbling garbage in the corner of a page then to do this everyday
does my mannequin look ok?
>>7403273How massive is his cock?
Felt confident throughout this, what to look into?
>>7403262from what other anon said symbol drawing is drawing with simplified shapes and chopping up the model into cylinders, spheroids rectangles etcetera so i was just looking for examples on how other people do it
>>7403359No, Symbol Drawing is when you want to draw an eye and instead of drawing a 3d eye you just draw an almond shape with a circle in it. You DON'T want to be symbol drawing
>>7403359no, that's construction. symbol drawing is traffic signs and ui icons. get it right ffs.
Am I doing these right? Started from zero a month ago. I take like 30 minutes to draw one of these from reference. I heard I should learn forms and simplify references into simple shapes before going into anatomy, so that's what I've been doing.Also I've been having a hard time learning how to rotate landmarks. I can rotate a box but if I try to rotate anything along with the box, say the ribcage, I get lost. I'm thinking of copying 3d models and then try to draw from memory.What should I do? I'm lost and I would appreciate the help from anons.
>>7403363>>7403364i literally just started and now i understand why people don't want to draw thx guys
it may be shitty but im happy i can do stuff other then basic standing poses now
>>7403394why? because nobody's psychic and can't read minds so you have to use correct terms to be understood? there's a lot of other hobbies that don't require communication.
Where do start if you want to draw environments? I can't just go outside because I will likely be shot and killed.
>>7403395Right I can relate.
>>7403359>symbol drawing is drawing with simplified shapesThat's kinda correct, if you are generous with the definition of a symbol. But most artists would just say shape drawing to be clear, symbol drawing has bad connotations.>and chopping up the model into cylinders, spheroids rectangles etcThit is not shapes. Shapes = 2d (squares, circles, triangles), Form = 3d (boxes, cylinders, spheres).Pic Related>i was just looking for examples on how other people do itJust look up Hampton for forms and animators for shapes.
>>7403412And I forgot to upload the damn pic
>>7403412>Just look up Hampton for forms and animators for shapes.thanks i was suspecting that other anon mixed up terms but at the end of the day i am practicing entry level thing from proko (that was also recomended)
>>7403358
>>7403005I will never be good but that's OK
>>7403447Bro, you are already good, Hot pic.
>>7403447Would nut
>>7403412>>7403414thx anon
>>7402985daily.I swear solemnly to grind 50 anatomy studies: 25 arms with hands and 25 heads before drawing my next piece - and I start right now.
>>7402985Anyone have a link to the warmup template with line, ellipse, circle, and hatching warmups?
I keep fixing the face but it still looks odd
I am /beg/ or /int/?
>>7403501Ya got a tangent on the outer most eye>>7403514Beg
>>7403514high /beg/ at best but at least this doesn't hurt to look at.I don't like how his glove blends in with the shotgun btw
How do I draw from observation as a beginner? Are there any resources for practicing that?I've never picked up a pencil btw. Just stumbled upon this board today.
>>7403526Try the Keys to drawing book
>>7403526Watch the first 40 or so minutes of Krenz's basics stream, the techniques he teaches are very solid. It's in chinese but it has english subs at least.
>>7403518>>7403522What could make this piece go from beg-tier to decent?, I know I have weak points but I don't know what to tackle first. Is it the perspective?, the anatomy?.
Can someone explain this? The OCR doesn't work on this for some reason
I love oban star racer
>>7403538Some one else will probably and certainly explain it better than me but I used my phones translation feature .It basically says on the bad example that placing grounds elements diagonally; which is typically common when people do character perspective, is bad and make the piece look tilted.On the good example place a parallel systemmetrical lines on the center of the screen for the ground elements
>>7403538tilting the grid 45 degrees makes it more intuitive for this specific drawing but it's the same 3d space essentially, you can place the yellow grid over the red grid and all the intersections should alignIdk how asians teach their perspective but this is hard to understand with the retarded way it's taught in the western world
What should I call him?
>>7403536composition and depth
>>7403538is this for animation or just general composition?
>Just wanted to draw anime girls>Fell for the loomis>Fell for the anatomy books and "life study">Fell for the western youtuber artist>should just gone and copied manga pages and anime i'll take a break of one week and hopefully i forget everything
>>7403573composition
>>7403538The vanishing points are too close, which will make everything look distorted. Tackling this scenario as a 1VP setup is more natural and avoids distorting the image within the cone of vision. When things go outside the cone of vision, you can switch to 2VP with the second vanishing point placed really far away, so far that the guidelines are almost perpendicular to the first.These concepts are explained better in composition books, specifically in their applied perspective sections. There's no need to use images in languages you don't understand.phils design corner has a great series on applied perspectivehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tahmBeH7a9Aloomis creative illustration mentions this too.
finally got a chance to sit down and draw again after exams. Still feel rusty though so just some face sketches today.
>>7403588>There's no need to use images in languages you don't understand.I guess by it's a book by the guy who drew the MiA backgrounds which I loved
>>7402985First time doing some dynamic lighting. Is this fine, guys?
>>7403606absolutely soulless YIKES
>>7403186>>7403182if only you had grinded 500 floating loomis heads...
>>7403182>>7403186REMINDERThis is a professional illustrator
My 8th day drawingFinally tried the Loomis method and followed some guide off the internet, overall I'm happy with how it turned out but I just can't seem to put out a good mouth and eyes
>>7403621I'm not sure that you're doing the Loomis head quite right
do cleaner sketches come naturally after a lot of practice
>>7403632No, you have to consciously make clean lines before it becomes an automatic thing.
>>7403606You should work on line thickness. I like this alot. I think dynamic line weight would elevate this to the next level. Also they look stiff. But I dint think it'd be noticeable if I wasn't really looking at your piece
>>7403538>背景に関するレイアウト指示instructions relating to the layout of the background>画面中央を軸にした左右対称のパース線をイメージし、地面の凹凸や草を配置します。set up perspective lines so that they align with the middle of the screen, and layout the bumpiness (ups and downs of the ground) and grass onto the ground plane.>キャラの向きのパースにつられて、地面の凹凸や草を斜めに配置してしまいです。これで地面が傾いて見えます。here we put down the characters first and aligned the perspective with the characters. The ground plane "bumpiness" and grass layout will end up look tilted. The end result is that the entire ground plane looks tilted.What an interesting page. I've never seen a western book talk about stuff like this. Basically, if you are laying out a ground plane of grass or natural features, with no vanishing lines, it's best to set it up first in one point perpsective. If you do 2 poitn perspective, everything can look tilted and diagonal.If you didn't like my translate, feel free to throw my transcription into DeepL
>>7403630Probably not, care to explain how it should be done?I'm always looking for new ways to draw
>>7403602Fair enough, artist artbooks are fine. I just don't think there's a secret sauce in foreign art theory books that hasn't already been approached in English.Try using NormCap—that's what I use at work, and it's free.>>7403606Use a third shade color to depict the folds and dents created by grabbing the skin.
>>7403435You could have her at the beach with some umbrellas.
>>7403632Don't worry about how messy your sketch is. Learn line weight and depth for when you clean the drawing up. Learn proportions and poses for when you're sketching. People that look at your sketch phase and say it's too messy or scratchy are usually crabs are too autistic to understand the planning stages donf need to be pretty.
Rough sketch trying perspective for a first time
>>7403644It's just a diagonal vs symmetrical composition. But for some reason drawing resources completely skip over composition every single time. Pick up a photography book, it'll teach that stuff much better.
>>7403650>NormCapThanks! I was using https://capture2text.sourceforge.net/ but it's showing it's age
>>74033415 inches, take it or leave it
>>7403662any recommendations for photography book? Peferably in Japanese, if possible. I'm trying to get better at that language
>it took the whole afternoon just for a simple half body sketch with no backgroundFuck my adhd zoomer brain
>>7403671No clue, I learned photography years and years ago, and I don't have the books anymore.
>>7403648I think you're skipping a step, or misunderstanding what you're meant to do with the mannequin head. It's more of a placeholder so you can draw the actual loomis head a little better. You want to map out the bumps and ridges on the face with easy to follow 3D planes so that it's easy to shade and rotate around.
Ibis Paint anon...
>>7403682>I think you're skipping a step, or misunderstanding what you're meant to do with the mannequin head. It's more of a placeholder so you can draw the actual loomis head a little better.You're rightThanks, I'm gonna give it another shot
>>7403677Time spent notwithstanding, I would stick my penis in this drawing, good job anon
>>7403182>>7403186My brother in autism, this is not the way
i cannot into hands
trying to figure something out>>7403588>The vanishing points are too closetheyre literally not
>>7403729teach me your secrets, master
>>7403730?
>>7403729>permabeg trying to crab on author of book who drew >>7403602only reason to come on here is to laugh at retards like you
>>7403737im doing what? where? is it schizo hour?
>>7403740both the guy you replied to and >>7403644 are explaining the book's explanation but in english. please kys swiftly
hey guys im working on a character design. shes a dumb-but strong near-future military grunt. but higher ranking than grunt, like toad. i was wondering if you could help me out with an outfit/hair idea. please nothing sexual.
>>7403741again, the translated part says nothing about the perspective points being too close, nigga take your meds
Starting to wonder if I should ditch the Shirow Miwa Gadgetry study in lieu of an artbook of Imashi's because I can do Imaishi's characters more easily, or maybe that's the fucking point and I need to study Shirow Miwa precisely BECAUSE I tend towards wider rounder lines and need to undo that habit.
>>7403182this>copying embarrassing stuff is so embarrassing and out of the comfort zone that i just draw some circles and call it a daydon't even know why i do this, probably to relieve some stress
>>7403580i too wonder why not start to learn basics with simplified cartoonish drawings and eventually level up to a more serious things like real life studiesis it a some type of academic/atelier influence, where instructors seethe at students drawing anime?
>>7403755Yes, pretty much.Well, the truth is, it is quite a bit slower, and there's always the trap that you never grow out of simple cartoon stuff. But unless you're trying to speedrun and have a good teacher, it's not going to take long enough to matter.
Hey folks, Christmas is coming and some young family members are getting to the age where they can practice basic drawing and painting. Anyone have recs for cheap, straightforward gifts for young artists? Maybe something you enjoyed as a kid?
>>7403759Shonen Jump Guide to Drawing Manga is a nice book. it teaches both writing and drawing
>>7403729For that kind of shot, I do think the vanishing points are pretty close. This will create ambiguity and distortion in the illustration. That’s why I suggest reconceptualizing the shot in 1vp ,it makes it easier for the viewer.Something many people forget is that different objects will have different vanishing points. What really matters is the horizon line.>>7403759painting by numbers kits are fun
>>7403405this video is a pretty good introduction to the fundamentals skills you will need to draw landscapes and environmentshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWMMo1v594Y
>>7403482i got one, remember not to grind these too much. 20-30 mins max.
>>7403632Only if you deliberately practice trying to do cleaner sketches. Everyone spent hours everyday in school writing, but most peoples handwriting is pretty sloppy. That's because they never deliberately practiced improving it once it was legible enough.
>>7403773Yeah I need to work on my handwriting for sure, but I heard that handwriting motions are anti-thetical to drawing.
>>7403766>>7403763Thanks for the feedback.
after about a year, i figured out how to draw passable eyes
I made the head big on purpose
>>7403766>I do think the vanishing points are pretty closeI guess so, it looked like it was inside the cone of vision when i eyeballed it, but when i checked it its well outside of it>the horizon lineThe vanishing points aren't aligned, that's why the ground is titled btw
>>7403786I would recommend mainly working on construction and measuring at this point, less on color/rendering
>>7403788I eyeballed too, I took for granted that the HL was flat on the x axis. Now if you try recreate the O good one, you take the left vp and move it to the center and what happens is that the right vp will move almost to infinity making the guide lines parallel to the HL, this distance is way larger than the original thats what I mean they are too close for me in that shot.The video I posted give suggestions on which "perspective" to use based on the scene.
>>7403789what do you reccomend?
>>7403795while I haven't taken any courses myself, through watching drawing demos on YouTube here and there, I feel like video content is generally more useful than reading; thought it depends on the video creator and writer. just look around - whether on here or on another platform - for a beginner course which includes construction. or, if you prefer, look for a book with that same info (and perhaps more). I went through Keys to Drawing, which I found very useful, but it's more explicitly directed at trad artists (which I am). though you could in principle apply the ideas to digital.
>>7403788The vanishing points are fine, I don't know how you managed to fuck that up. And it's well within the cone of vision, because this is a 3-p comp.
>>7403793That's complete nonsense. What you just described has nothing to do with the distance between vanishing points. The FOV does not change just because you rotated the camera.
>>7403814is the head too big?
fuck, sorry, i didn't meant to reply to you >>7403814
>>7403817A bit, not by much, though.Alternatively make it a bit wider and it looks fine as well.
>>7402999You got the giant boots right. That's one of the most prominent things about Megaman's art style. The winged helmet is cool detail. >>7403085It depends what mood you're going for. >>7403097This image is a vibe. Like, "short rest during a long adventure". >>7403353There might be too much space between the eyes. I think there is only supposed to be one eyes worth of space between the two eyes. I'm not entirely sure though.
How the fuck do I get goodI don't understand how this box shit is supposed to take my drawings to the next level
Oh my God I can't believe I actually made this with my own handsI started reading the Keys to Drawing and drawing your own feet, with shoes, was the very first exercise. I didn't want to put on shoes so I just tried bare feet, and it came out significantly better than I expected. Maybe this whole art thing isn't beyond me.
>>7403830Anon, I am telling you this honestly: Boxes are the ultimate /beg/trap. Just try to copy artists you like. You will improve 10x faster than trying to stuff a human torso into a box with the added bonus of drawing stuff you like
>>7403830this anon is right >>7403843copying artwork, memorizing shapes, finding a style that works for you, all of that is the best stuff you could do to improverecommended routine:1. 1 hour copying art you like2. 1 hour copying photos that appeal to you (check the model pack thread)3. 1 hour drawing from imagination>>7403839nice anon
>>7403839post ref
>>7403847You guys actually believe this shit, or are you just fucking with the begs
>>7403852some people study boxes like nerds, others learn to draw in a more organic wayto each their own, either way boxes defintely are not necessary to be a good artist
>>7403852i do believe it, but i know how it looksi could write several books on the subject, honestly, but i won't.
>>7403855Cope>>7403857I mean, you're either the nodraw, or managed to draw the flattest looking 2/3rds figure in existence.Either way prognosis is not good.
Redid this, focused on accuracy. Seemed to turn out okay.
>>7403867Arbiter wolf?
>>7403858a few points here1. I think it's important to be able to modulate between flat and solid art, if you wanna have any flexibility in what you draw2. I never said form wasn't important, just not something you should spend your time practicing. You can learn it just by copying very solid art. On the other hand, you will never develop solid looking art if all you practice is "theorycrafting", aka boxes. You cannot theory yourself into good drawing, it can only come from observation3. proportions are king. if you can put things in the right place, wtih the right shape, the right contours, the right angles, your art will look far better than someone who has solid draftsmenship but unappealing shapes. I make sketches to give my posts a bit of validity, but I'm not saying I"m the greatest artist either. There are probably over a hundred people on this board who can draw better than me. this isn't meant to be ego-posting, just an honest discussion on art
>>7403768Thanks.
>>7403869???
weird unsuccess
>>7403830There is a lot of shit in drawing that only clicks once you already kinda-somewhat-more-or-less understand the subject matter unconsciously.Boxes are pointless until you "get" the human anatomy at least on mid-beg level.Draw AT LEAST 100 figures first, while actually studying human anatomy you are drawing.
Felt like drawing mymy, how's it anons?
>>7403884While I'm here i wanna share one more drawing, I'm way more proud of this one, I was trying to study different poses and decided to turn it into an ongezellig drawing, I think it turned out fine but as usual I would like to hear your criticisms
>>74038711. That's irrelevant to beginners2. That's irrelevant to beginners3. That's irrelevant to beginnersI mention the quality of your sketch because it clearly isn't benefiting from your lack of perspective and form practice. Your figures are stiff, paper thin, and despite all, they're not even that appealing. Who are you to say what is or isn't worth learning, when it isn't even really working for you.
>>7403903holy fucking mogged
>>7403852not that anon but just copying art and just drawing for fun (so if they hate boxes, not boxes) is a good way for brand new begs to just get into drawing regularly. then the fundies grind begins
>>7403926Yes, *but* that wasn't the question being asked, nor the answer being disputed. Of course you should draw for fun, that's how Loomis does it, that's even how DAB does it. But you can't *only* do that. You will not improve unless you make a conscious effort to do better. And you cannot improve by copying and observing if you lack the analytical framework to create robust solutions to problems. It's not helpful to learn how to draw a face in a certain style at a certain angle, unless you can reverse engineer it and explain to yourself why it looks the way it does. Actually learn how to do math, don't just memorize your times tables.
>>7403186You are retarted. Draw actual pictures.
>>7403186basedyou have motivated me to do some silly autistic doodling
any good video tutorials for bodies? Want to add one to this but any time I go to the neck it looks off.
>>7403955
>>7403939I don't know how to do this...
>>7403973First advice from this video comes into mind:https://youtu.be/FxoTwEdbbgQ?si=H1bB69QYZEJO1yKR&t=61You're just drawing squares all day and thinking that is gonna make you a better artists. You already plateaud any gains you'd make by doing that.
>>7403830>I don't understand how this box shit is supposed to take my drawings to the next levelBasically, there are two things that you need to make a good figure drawing: Gesture and Structure. (Pic related is me trying an example of each)What boxes help is to get a simple structure in place, but the thing is: Your boxes aren't good enough yet for this job. The structure needs to be simple and characteristic.A good exercise to make you understand is to take some of your favorite artists or some really good artists (like Michelangelo) and trace over their figures with boxes.Also, I am parroting Steve Huston here, so go look up his teaching and book.>>7403847While studying art is important, if copying is all you do for study, you will get better at copying, not drawing.>>7403903Show off lol. You should try to help the beg instead of picking a fight.
>>7403353looks like you rotate your canvas a lot, zoom out and straighten things out... also try to use hair compositions with less weird tangents, even if its stylistic it breaks my mind.
its over
>>7403867Looks underage.
>>7404040Where did her panties go? Very nice by the way.
>>7403820oh okay thanks, i'll try to fix it now>>7404040she's so pretty anon, very nice
>>7404040years of drawing cool shit only to draw noodle limbed trannies for freeholy KEK
>>7402985question about head count, is it really that differeant between 8 heads and 9 heads provided that proportions are intact?
>>7404110See if you like the differences the change in proportion causes. It's your art, you're the one who gets to say what elements are a bigger focus
>>7404109>frog poster>the worst post in the threadClockwork
>>7404122They even fail at shitposting.
>>7403973This is actual insanity. I'm not even going to correct you or give you advice. I wanna see where this is going.
>>7403973what are you hoping to accomplish herethese are just squares
>>7403973Bet you can't draw contour lines
>>7403359>from what other anon said symbol drawing is drawing with simplified shapes and chopping up the model into cylinders, spheroids rectangles etceteraNobody said that to you.
>>7403620>This is a professional illustratorSure is.
>>7403939This is howie 2.0, don't engage.
>>7403955You would probably enjoy Malcolm Liepke's art.
>>7403390If you're shooting for animu or real life, find a reference and break it down with the construction via tracing. Then just use the image as a reference and try to do it without tracing. Just do this a few times every day until you get comfortable.
>>7403973Damn, you're actually improving. Keep up the good work.
>>7404040Cute
>Today is the army's picture day, Corporal was forced to take her hat off for onceI wanted to give the new girl solo story. Recently I've been trying to learn how to draw clothes and folds by trying to draw them like other people. How does she look?
>>7404181i love how you do the text bubbleswhy do you do them like that
>>7404183It started as wanting to keep the speech bubbles separate from the drawing. also it's easy to position them that way, but now I like the way they look too. it's nice to hear you like them :D
>>7403085>>7403096sorry sir, blue it isDoes it look okay until now?
Today's "fun" is over
>>7404209I'm having fun watching this.
>>7404185its really cute
>>7404209Your post's always read like a little kid's passive aggressive tantrum, when his mommy told him to do a thing that needs to be done. The kid is lazy and does not want to do it, but he also doesn't want to get scolded for doing nothing, so he pretends to do the bare minimum, which in the end will amount to nothing.
>>7404181she looks more pasted on than the speech balloons but it has a very nice comic strip / manga feel, have you tried inking with nibs?
>>7404208anon, do you wear glasses?
>>7404233I've tried inking, but it always looks really messy.
>>7404209what are you even hoping to accomplish with this
>>7404181make freckles confess her love to cyclops
>>7403182>>7403973>>7404209kill yourself
>>7404236Do gesture work and apply it to 4-panel comics. You can learn inking separately.
>>7404241by gesture work I don't mean 'gesture drawing' necessarily but copying any sort of physical movement!
>>7404160actually yeah, haven't heard of him before. thanksadded some color but she's still a floating head for now
>>7404241I've been turning my drawings into proper comic strips sometimes without inking. I've not tried to do any actual movement with my comics though. Good tip
Haven’t drawn in forever.Also what the fuck is up with the verification????
>>7403996True, however, I don't do it just to be an asshole.Lesson One is: Be wary of those who give advice.More often than not, they're just spouting bullshit to justify their own bad decisions. Look at their results. If it didn't work for them, it's probably not going to work for you, either. This board is full of misquoted, misinterpreted, and straight up malicious advice, don't take anyone here seriously unless their work is rock solid, not just better than you, better than you could ever hope to be.Lesson Two is: Know thyself. Know where you stand and don't think you have all the answers. The volumes you can write about topic aren't correlated with actually knowing what you're talking about. Don't trick yourself into believing you're the shit, because you're probably not.
>>7404278anon... while i agree with most of what you're saying does it not apply to you too?>don't take anyone here seriously unless their work is rock solid, not just better than you, better than you could ever hope to be.this is also a very high bar, i don't think i would have improved at all if i didn't listen to anons shilling morpho/loomis/whatever on here. ultimately you could also just post your advice too, people can choose whether they want to listen to you as well
>>7404285Yes it does. You shouldn't believe everything I say. Nor Bridgeman, nor Han, no one's word is god. But it might hold a little more weight.And that's the thing though. Shill Morpho, shill Loomis, whatever. But actually read the books, don't just take on faith what anon tells you about them. Anon likely didn't even read them.And no, posting competing advice really doesn't work. This is 4chan, over half the people here believe in some kind of dumb ass conspiracy theory. At the end of the day, they're not going to follow the advice that looks the most helpful. They follow the advice that agrees with whatever they already wanted to do.
what do you think of it?
>>7404277Good shit.>Also what the fuck is up with the verification????The internet is dying. Blame the Pajeets and Ivans.
>>7404305I think you're a /pro/.
>>7403182>>7403973>>7404209Damn that's one elaborate and dedicated troll.Right?...
>>7404278>This board is full of misquoted, misinterpreted, and straight up malicious advice, don't take anyone here seriously unless their work is rock solid, not just better than you, better than you could ever hope to be.>>7404298>And no, posting competing advice really doesn't work.i wish i could have a teacher or a trusted friend who could help me improve, someone so much better than me who could guide me. the only artist friend I had was a crab who only used me to draw things for him.
>>7403882she cute
>>7404315Not really. His ellipses are good. But the rest? Not so much. He made the right decision to continue the grind.
>>7404206this looks really nicehow long have you been drawing for?
>>7404168Well, I tried... I don't have a tablet or tracing paper.
>>7402985gentlemen please i come with a question, what programs do you guys use to animate images?any recommendations on any programs?
>>7404322turn your laptop/tablet screen on full brightness and put printer paper on top. use very light strokes so you dont damage the screen.
>>7404315I actually don't know, if anything, it's bait of the highest order, real or not.>>7404318>He made the right decision to continue the grind.No he didn't lol he won't magically get better by doing the same thing and expecting different results.>>7404322Oof, when I wanted to do this and hadn't these, I placed the paper in front of the screen and turned brightness all the way up. Works on computer and mobile.
>>7404181freckles looks so bulliable. I hope you keep including her in your drawings from time to time
>>7404323this is what i mean by animate an image, this is clearly a still that was given motion AND jiggle, how?!
>>7404320I started taking is seriously two years ago, but I have been drawing since I was ten or so, meaning I just copied stuff, I thought was cool
>>7404154>Nobody said that to you.fok off retard this is not the only thread i asked questions in
>>7404334you should get better taste
>>7404337Nice man good job and good progress. I started a few months ago.
>>7404334Looks like shit though
My first drawing I suck
>>7403091Fucking kino idea but shit foreshortening and perspective. Decent comp though. Will nick that off ya.
>>7404371nowhere to go but upward
>>7404371Pretty good for a first
>>7402985I get unreasonably horny drawing fat women and there's just no cure but to keep drawing fat women, wtf
>>7404374I mean it's drawing from reference i think the first mistake is the thick ass lines
>>7404377not a mistake. doesn't matter. its a drawing from reference? ok so what? most drawings are. its good for a first drawing. take the compliment and stop being gay
Man colored pencils suck to use
>>7404384Colored pencils have a weirdly high skill ceiling. I guess I'm stupid for always thinking of them as kid's tools because some people can use them for straight up magic.
>>7404387maybe ill just draw then scan in for digital coloring?
>>7404397I think that's what most people do now, especially if it's going on a blog or something. Getting good with colored pencils is probably just like everything else but man who wants to rub wood on paper until shading appears.
>>7404401rubbing wood? im already pretty good at that
>>7404384have you tried woman colored pencils?
>>7404415nta but this made me kek way harder than it should've
>>7404415ta and i didnt laugh but i appreciate your joke.
>>7404371already mogs 70% of this thread
>>7404334That image is separated into 4 layers, the thighs are connected to the calves at the knees, the ass is given a bounce cycle, the torso and ass move down at same time, the body and sick are one layer cycling. The longest part of that was the drawing of the art, but honestly even that looks low effort and just ai generated. What others are saying is true, you need better taste, that is by definition slop. So ask yourself, are you a pig anon? You a dirty little pathetic pig of a coomer? Huh? Little oinker?
>>7404371holy basedteach me, sensei
>>7404447I csnt wait until we have fully AI generated Erotic novels where you get scenes and text generated according to your input. Holy shit. I give it at least 2 more years before we get a really good version of this. I'm sure someone is working on it as we speak. It will sell millions.
>>7404434heh thanks
>>7404439Is she wearing a diaper? I cant understand
>>7404459Panties
>>7404465nah nigga that's a diaper.
>>7404447>>7404369>>7404345post taste
>>7404469
Messy WIP sketch. Anything I should fix/change? Red lines appreciated.
sketch
>>7404484Me on the right
>>7404484why are they raping zelda?
I say sketch but i genuinely don't know how I go about refining this>>7404488he's attractive?
A little bit frustrating to look how shit the concept art looks.The actual render turned out good enough though.I wish sai had the watercolor brush csp has.>>7404488Pretty sure that's Link.
Just finished this piece, so what is wrong the rendering? What am i missing?the background is just a blurry photo
>>7404508No coherent light.
>>7404508I don't mean this cruelly but this character lacks femininity. Idk if she's supposed to be like that but something is off.
>>7404474Arm looks skinnier than the other
>>7404508I'm not used to painterly rendering, bear with me and my shitty edit.I agree with >>7404510But, what I notice was there was not enough values.In the edit I just made some spots darker and brighter. I also upped the saturation. But, that is just my personal adjustment.>>7404534I wouldn't say she lacks femininity. More like, she looks middle aged
>>7404508>>7404545Shit forgot the image. Fucking captcha
>>7404496Love the expression & you draw people interacting very well. Did you use a reference?
>>7404552yes
>>7404563Is that just another version of your drawing or are you referencing a drawing to just draw the exact same thing?
>>7404569>Is that just another version of your drawingthats pretty clearly a 3d render dudehttps://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1564879Time flies, 10 years ago
>>7404572>That cel shaded 40x40 pixel is pretty obviously aDude, no it isn't, it just looks like microscopic gay porn regardless of the medium. Enjoy the encyclopedic knowledge of gay porn I guess, and wasting your time drawing someone else's picture.
>>7404580>cel shadedWhat the fuck are you talking about, it's clearly not cell shadedWere you talking about the picture on the right the whole time, which is my wip lineart layer over the sketch layer?
>>7404584someone who collects shitty 3d gay porn and worships it enough to shoddily recreate man on man rape scenes without even bothering to iterate the original work can't recognize cel shading, i am jack's complete lack of surprise
>>7404589but this is clearly not cel shaded, what do you think cel shading even looks like? also you complimented my drawing before and now you act as if you're above what i was drawing just because you thought my lineart layer was a different drawing? I dont want to be mean to you because you complimented my art but you're just acting like a retarded dipshit
>>7404592You are mixing up anons and that is cel shading, it is clearly an attempt to flatten the 3d models. Just have your wank and finish your slop copy, yeesh.
>>7404594it's a model from twilight princess which wasnt a cel shaded game, not that you would have to know that, because its visible to the naked eyealso pyw
>>7404597Sorry don't have any cel shaded gay rape at the moment, I'll let you know if I decide to copy someone else's picture tho
>>7404599is this you attempt at pissing me off after making a fool of yourself? It doesn't work when its so obviousSome recommendations for you to figure out what cel shading looks like, so you dont embarass yourself next time trying to bait- windwaker- jet set radio- Viewtiful Joe - okami- borderlands 2
https://youtu.be/HezSmjtKA1A?feature=shared&t=158>SamDoesArts is against box drawingI kneel
>>7404334live2d
>>7404603>Cel shading needs bold outlines thoughbeit!!!No. It just needs to flatten the 3d image to imitate a 2d style, like in the gay pornography that you're copying does. Get over it you fucking autistic weirdo, and just go finish copying your slop.
>>7404608>flatten the 3d image to imitate a 2d style..it doesn't do that, it's obviously fully 3d, it has a complete smooth range of values, like any sfm render, it's just that it's dark in general which maybe confused your monkey-brainAgain, twilight princess wasnt cel shaded, people made mods TO cel shade it, because it's not in vanilla
>>7404613im not about to analyze sfm gay porn to win an argument
kk
>>7404617much better
>>7404613>it has a complete smooth range of valuesnta but no, it does not
one of these ill get a (you) for my garbanzo beg drawings and the ints would love me
I drew an antimony today it wasn't a very good antimony
>>7404617Very nice. I think that the circular shape of the ribcage would help the midriff a lot though
I'm more or less 50% done with this piece. Any thoughts about the rendering or the lighting so far?
Started my Shirow Miwa study. Fuck this is hard. This piece of shit attempt took me 45 minutes
>>7404777LOL
>>7404779Hey I know I suck, but while I have your attention do I avoid using my wrist when there's so many small details?
>>7404779be nice anon>>7404783you can use your wrist when doing the details,
>>7404783Start big firstSmall details come laterBlock out the main shapes and learn about construction
>>7404773Lighting looks good. I’m not really into this style of rendering so I can’t say anything there
>>7404777Don't start with the face. Start with the bigger shapes. Then down to the smaller shapes. Take a step back and look at the shapes you are drawing compared to your reference. They are whack. But it's expected when you are startingTurn the drawing 90° and/or upside down. Compare your drawing to it. Can you see the mistakes?Copy it once. Try to analyze it well, then copy it again.
this will never end, must go on
>>7404790>>7404785Thanks for the advice. My Imaishi artbook is coming on x-mas and I'm so tempted to just ditch this and do that but I have a feeling if I persist with this hand-drawn no brush detail filled horseshit it could elevate my skills.
I feel there's something off with this guy
>>7404818Nah looks good
>>7404617whats happening here?
Working on this right now, can I get some criticism?https://files.catbox.moe/0wo041.mp4
>>7404818Caudal fin is too large and tall
So where the fuck do I go now that AI FAGGOT NIGGERS destroyed image search?Butlerian jihad ASAP
>>7404439please learn how to draw a box in perspective before you attempt guns and anime fox women
How important is it to be able to rotate 3D objects in your mind?
>>7404881Aparantly I have to do this now:flowing hills -"stable diffusion" -"ai" -"midjourney" -"open art" -"prompt hunt"
>>7404859the sketch was betteralso stop chicken scratching
>>7404881I just started using this (the uBlacklist one specifically) - https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-BlocklistDoesn't get everything but cleans up the search results quite nicely
>>7404897Thanks!
>>7404887I'm trying to phase out chicken scratching, but it's very hard since i'm not that confident in my lines. I did the sketch with chiken scratching and the line art without, also, could you explain why you think the sketch looks better?
i need the guy's hand to be doing something more specific than just being theresuch a bother though, resketching and relining something, especially a hand>>7404773is she supposed to be lying on a bed?
>>7404913can you post your gay nigger porn somewhere else?
>>7404916you motivated me to go through with it, you're like my pathetic terence fletcher
>>7404883being able to rotate them on paper is the important part.
feel like i've hit a block with how to improve my art, but i managed to do this today>>7404883being able to can be important, but using references especially for more complex objects and poses is a lot more important and likely to be accurate imo
I've been drawing for 6 weeks and everything looks nice when copying but whenever I try to draw from imagination it looks like utter shit.Now I'm not so conceited as to think things would go smoothly so quickly but it's not a very pleasant feeling either. How did you deal with it?
>>7404964try blind copies then apply what you learned/remember to an idea you have.
>>74049646 weeks is nothing, you will only get good if you are ready to draw horrible trash for months and months.
>>7404964are you drawing from imagination the same subject matter that you copy?
>>7404964pyw
>>7404968When I copy I have the reference out all the time. I try to be conscious of what thw artist does but I guess this >>7404966 approach is worth giving a try>>7404969Can't do it atm, I'm lying in bed
>>7404971thats not what im askingwhat are you copying and what are you drawing from imagination
>>7404978My bad, I misread.Yes, in a sense it's the same subject but at the same. time, saying "anime girls" is too broad of a subject
Drawing one Makima every day for the month of December to see how much I can improveDay 16: I like this one. Even though it took me like an hour just to get the jaw right. I've started doing it last because I feel like thats my best bet on getting it to be something I find acceptable.I keep wondering too, is getting better more about the volume? I:E getting out more drawings?Or is it time spent? Because generally each makima takes me close to an hour to do. (this one took like an hour and 45 though)
>>7404788Thanks!>>7404913>is she supposed to be lying on a bed?Yes. It's not finished but I want the effect to be kinda like "sinking" into the bed when it's done. I have to render those cloth folds of the bed sheets after she's done
Yes I suck. So?
>>7404913can you keep posting your gay nigger porn here?i gotta see what happens to zelda
>>7404995I like you hatching.
>>7404881>>7404885>flowing hills before:2021this gets rid of all the ai slop
Trolling №1278
Lines alone can only take a portrait drawing so far, feels limiting.
>>7404606omg I hate this faggot so much ALL HE DOES IS PAINT STUPID INSTAGRAM GIRLS FUCK THIS CUNTthis guy is not an artistsaying so is straight up outrageous
>>7404882Dumb schizo
>>7404779Post your copy, faggot.
>>7405084you have warmed up 1278 times, let's se what you warmed up for
>>7405206he will draw the perfect circle someday and become art god instantly. let him cook
>>7405220I will never forget his immaculate crab.
>>7404995>is getting better more about the volume? I:E getting out more drawings?yeahdon't rush but don't turd polish or spend a week "fixing" a lost cause either
>>7405108>NOOO I DONT WANNA LEARN FUNDIES SO I CAN IMPROVEngmi lol
>>7404995Congrats. I can recognize this as Makima. Or at least Fujimoto's style. Your improvement is too fast. I think you're a /pro/ larping for the lulz.
>>7404964Draw from memory. Like draw spongebob or some character from memory. Post it here.
>>7405085Looks underage.
>>7405325Took me way too long to figure out who this is, you have to try harder to be more accurate
>>7405336Took me just a few seconds to figure out the character, I think his arms are too short though.
>>7403804i have keys to drawing too but I still feel like it didn't go through construction that much?
Haven't posted here for a long time now, this is the latest thing I've done
Finished this yesterday
>>7405342Arms seem fine the torso is long as fuck
Tried another one.
>>7405100>mogs you at 11 years old>without any boxeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9AF9p4LTZ8
>>7405404Map out your proportions before drawing your boxes
>>7405414I see, I'll try it next time.
>>7405249No way, I'm a shitter. I just want to draw
>>7405243I dont see anything wrong with perspective. You are dumb, you need to add more detail to the criticism and stop screeching.
>>7405206>you have warmed up 1278 timesNot really. Once upon a time I really tried to draw
>>7405469permabeg dunning kruger is an incredible comboHave fun never improving i guess
>>7405469NTA, the perspective on the gun is fine, it's mostly just a bit too fat. The Z-axis on the magazine is the only thing that's noticeably off, but even then, not unless you're looking for it.Perspective on the cartridges and the girl, however, are pretty bad.
>>7403474Did my studies.>tfw arms and hands not even prominent in reference
>>7405557What’s your best advice for coloring
>>7405580A bunch of references.Analyze your reference by color picking and see how the hue, intensity and value change in one area in relation to another for your desired lighting scenario. Try then to manually pick the color for your image and check after that how far you were off. Even if your reference has different colors than your image, you can still pull out a lot of information about by how much you want to change hue, intensity and value to achieve a similar look. You just have to apply that to your own colors in your drawing. I hope this makes sense to you. I'm probably wording this not very goodI think a big step in order to get better at coloring is to understand how important the color gray is. Watch this video: https://youtu.be/21mPduQsm1gThis dude's channel has a few great videos on color and light btw.My early works were way too saturated and bright. This dude fixed that, I think.
>>7405391Would hang on my wall
once the ink comes out my line confidence goes out the window
Quick sketch, c&c welcome
>*teleports 10 dicks up your ass*Your move.
>>7405649Arbiter wolf?
can anyone critique this arm I drew? it's looks oks for the most part but I feel like there's something off, specifically with the muscles
>tfw you get good enough to practice a thing and you realize there are 997 more shitty drawings to wade through before you make something you like welp. at least new year's is a good day to start tracking habits.
Can someone point me in the direction of a solid rendering guide cuz I surely dont know what the fuck im doing
>>7405682image uploaded wrong mb
>>7405688Ref
the more I look at it the more things I see wrong I am going to post this here and then pretend it never happened
>>7405688Feel D. Form
>>7405716Cool beans but thats really not very helpful
How can I make the middle sketch less childlike?
>>7405723fair point, you can start with thishttps://youtu.be/V3WmrWUEIJohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_U9SIOmyjY
>>7405741Thanks
>>7405741got any videos for reflections?
>>7405471This isn't that bad. You'd probably do better if you tried again. >>7405725Probably make the body bigger. Loomis said the female body is two circles (or heads) wide at the widest point.
strange experiment
time to draw circles, boxes and ellipses hoping that i somehow get good enough to draw an anime girl...
hh
fuck
>>7405787like mirror reflections?Idk, don't you just tilt, flip and reverse? I might be wrong on this
What is the cheapest wireframe fig I can get thats not complete trash?
Drawing one Makima every day for the month of December to see how much I can improveDay 17: Forgive my tardiness, I wasted too much time today playing the new marvel slop I like this one but it looks a bit off. I suppose its my first real time trying to do a bit of body stuff, and although I learned some of the loomis technique for drawing a head, I learned none of the body stuff, so I think the proportions are a bit off.The lines in clothes fabric are also a bit weird to me, don't understand them yet
>thread goes past 320-something post>diesWhat happened with creating new thread after 300th post? We were doing it for years. Now we wait for several days in corpse-thread, while no one wants to post pics
>>7405945This website is kinda dead ngl. Other than reedit rejects and people who got trapped here after leaving YTMND 20 years ago I actually have no clue who would even still come here.
>>7405945Something-something can't have more than 2 threads on the catalog.You can still make one, btw.
>>7405946would you rather go to reddit?
>>7405949There are other websites for interacting with people beyond 4chan and Reddit (and Twitter, insta and Tumblr fit that matter), but I guess you don't go there either. I never understood how tribalism started running so deep in 4chan users that they developed a pathological hatred for reddit. Probably some form of hating their past self. When I started using this site reddit didn't exist so I guess I never developed that pathology. But yeah not enough people use 4chan is all, or at least not the ancillary boards.
>>7405952theres no one younger than 30 here
>>7405953Yeah it's not a great place to be if you want to interact with people meaningfully. Even some of the crits or feedbacks are kind of lacking, some anons can't even get trolled. Better off joining a discord for some game or series you like and looking for art people in the fanart section, see where they go. Just the way she goes.
>>7405920nice, now lets see a side profile.
>>7405890what are the guys you're copying from?
>>7405389What's up with the hands? Why the orange circle? Is it a halo?
>>7405896Looks like porn comics or game. Like summertime saga. You can make millions.
>>7405919>wireframe fig What do you think those words mean?
>>7405946>>7405949>>7405952>>7405953>>7405957So where's the best place to post/share/get feedback for my /beg/ sketches, then?
>>7406020here
>>7405920nice progress, gmi
Basic shapesfag infected me SEND HELP.
It's so over.
>>7406016Forgot to mention that, didn't finish the hands, it's a wipHalo inspired light, based on themes of worship (backgrounds are a big weakness of mine)
>>7405945Anon this is not a democracy. In democracy everybody complains about the government and when elections happens nothing changes, because the probability of general population interests aligning to same 1 party is nonexistent.But 4chan is not a democracy. We are anarchy where EVERYBODY, yes even (You), have the power to make the next general. So instead of complaining now go, fire up that photoshop, make new OP pic and post it in new /BEG.Also i dont think anyone is refusing to post, it is just drawing takes time, while your adhd brain used to social slop and scrolling whole day is used to unrealistic speeds.
>>7405655sorry I have no idea what that is...
>>7403091Get a mirror.
Weh
construction reps
>>7406134seemed fine for me
I'm really bad with getting proportions right unless I put blobs down before hand to get a general idea of how everything should be shapedhow can I do this on traditional media?going over very lightly with some charcoal?
>>7406210Could use a shammy/chamois cloth. Smudge some charcoal with it until it's black, then you can put down those soft blops with it.
3rd day (second day was spent playing guitar and drawing straight lines)
why no one ever tells me how I'm wrong
For people with display tablets with stands, when you set it up so it's fairly vertical, do you still hold your pencil the typical way or do you hold it in the more "physical media" way?
>>7406284>he cares about how the pencil is heldjust draw
>>7406284You really cant hold a tablet pen like a ponce. The things are fat as fuck
>>7406188gyatt>>7406276you have to ask for criticism and be specific
Looking for some advice on this Cell ojou-sama piece. I'm kinda new to the digital workspace and getting used to medibang.
>>7406309fundamentals look okay.i'm not personally fond of the gray streaks in his hair though.is he supposed to be grabbing the tip of his hair?anyways, keep it up!
>>7406304>you have to ask for criticism and be specificisn't it should be implied by posting on critique board? How It could be specific if I'm unware what I'm doing wrong?
>>7406315Ah nah, man, that's just the basic haughty hand gesture with the pinky up that they do when they laugh. As for the grey streaks, that's just me playing with the alpha options and coloring the sketch layer in dark yellow.
Today I drew Robin>>7406172cool I like the colorsthat brush you used for the lineart is awesome I want to use something similar
>>7406355then i guess it's just because it's a sketch that i mistook what his hand was doing.but do be mindful of making sure his hand is clearly on front of his hair for that pose.
>>7406365Ah, thanks, anon.
>>7406100How do I recreate the shine on her asscheek with just pencil and paper?
>>7406443cross-hatching
>>7406443If you have a good eraser, just erase the shiny part. If you don't, you got to be careful on your shading.
>>7406364I also drew Raven, I realized I fucked up the leg but I'm too lazy to fix it, but I might draw Beast boy later
>>7406364>>7406461Your art is really nice. I think you should've added more purple to raven as you did the yellow with robin.
>>7406443put a light gray color over white paper.after shading everything, erase the parts you want to look shiny like another anon suggested.
>>7405883this is honestly so good.I usually just put my characters in hoodies to keep myself from drawing bad anatomy and I don't have a sense of style at all. Did you use a ref for the clothes?>>7404244Also, still looking for criticism on this
New thread soon?
>>7406527no. pyw
>>7406538I'll wait until next thread. this one is on page 8 :^)
>>7406460what a happy vampire
scrapped pose sketch>>7406461very cool, smooth and silky
>>7403651>wet socksDESPICABLE
practicing pen textures to be used in the background for another piece (the one in op actually). am i good to go or keep practicing?
just a doodle
Drawing one Makima every day for the month of December to see how much I can improveDay 18: Tried a full side profile, and it really made my lack of experience with drawing fabric folds and bodies evident. Face is also slightly off I feel, but my faces are certainly far better than my nonexistant bodywork. on another note, I felt so inspired today that I actually took some time to draw something that isn't makima. Maybe its a sign that drawing is becoming more of a hobby.
>>7406655anon I know I asked for a side profile but who the fuck were you using as a reference. makima does NOT have a nose like that!! Good effort nonetheless.
What 3d model programs do you use?
>>7406663I was using this one, and idk why I made it harder on myself by reversing her direction.I'm getting filtered by needing to actually draw a nose for once kek
>>7406674anon!!! her nose is just a triangle anon!!! why did u give her a roman nose???
>>7406677>the roman nosekek I'm sorry I just couldn't get it to come out in a way that didn't make her look jewish or like a sexy pinnochio anyway I just tried to fix it
>>7406684you didnt fix shit
>>7406684>anyway I just tried to fix ityou gave her an upside down skull nose
>>7406684im sorry anon im too beg
you need to move face forward
>>7406670blender
>>7406697Dios mio...
>>7402985
>>7406714
I am just going to start using 3d models. Fuck every single one of you psychotic purists
>>7406717can you please show a drawover of you drawing over the boxes.
>>7406717if this is yours image then go for it
>>7406717program?>>7406714>>7406715>pic with massive phone shadow over itBased retard
>>7406684
>>7406732blog?
>>7406714>>7406715Soulful.
>>7406697okI was wondering why it looked off but I couldnt figure it outthank you
>>7406717Why would you think there is something wrong with models? There are mannequins specifically made for artists.
heres a goblin I drew
>>7406714>>7406715posts like these are why i like 4chan.please keep posting with your phone's shadow covering your pictures.i don't mean it in an insulting way either.seriously
>>7406792
>>7406655Holy shit, it looks like a man cosplaying as Makima.
>>740687647 with a longer neck and a wig.
>>7406881I get it now, Makimanon was drawing 47 this whole time.
>>7403867u have potential to be a wiki how to artist
Can anyone help me understand why my faces always come out incorrectly? It's like every single head I do is too wide or too long or too short, I can never seem to get a consistent face. I've been drawing for a year now and I'm frankly embarrassed at how I still can't do consistently good facespic rel is my process
>>7406938>>7406938>>7406938new thread
>>7406618Cute as hell. Draw the chair so she doesn't sit on nothing
>>7406792She looks like she smells bad (in a good way)
>>7406717what software is this?
Sketched a thresher, pic in the bottom is the reference
>>7406717Is this yours or you are using this as an example?
Could anyone give me some redlines? Thank you in advance.
