If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>Post Your Work and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.When receiving a critique, try to provide one in return>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7855901
>drew for 4 years practicing every day>burned out from life shit and stopped drawing for over a year>came back to it recently>total loss of line control>can't into basic perspective>tfw this is my level nowIt's so fucking over. Like those 4 years of struggle never happened over. Fuck drawing srsly. I want to die.
BWEEEEEEEEEHH
Procreate is a lot of fun
>>7859482same fucking shit here.4 years of trying but haven't actually drawn that much.i thought that howie dude was trolling or something, but turns out its legit. like he might be trolling, but i legit havent drawn anything no matter what i try.just gonna accept that my add is going to make me rope soon
>>7859474HUMILIATION RITUAL
>>7859474THREAD CHALLENGE
>>7859499Nigga i come here to draw not to coom
Waa
>>7859499Not quite the ideal ass to booba ratio.
>>7859499It's no longer allowed to make the thread challenge a body shot until I'm able to draw bodies
>>7859518My ex had this proportions and it was pretty nice to suck entire boob and spread whole ass when she was on top.
>>7859523But can you draw? I have more talent than you ;3
>>7859499drawing people is too hard, I somehow have no workflow for this beyond eyeballing it
>>7859490>>7859482is drawing literally just an IQ thing?A lot of my friends draw, and I'm noticing a very reliable correlation of the dumbest of them being completely stagnant / having no intuition, and the friends I know are generally smarter not repeating their art mistakes and gradually getting better from one drawing to the next
>>7859546Talent.
More tasteful thread challenge
>>7859566how is this any more tasteful? Because she's flatter?
>>7859569Do you want me to post a dried up nude grandma with tits that reach her knees then?
>>7859573what do you think "tasteful" means?
>>7859566it's worse
>>7859552Maybe having no talent just means you're dumbHaving talent just means you're able to understand artistic concepts implicitly because having eyes + pattern recognition is all you need for basic art
Can I get some critique on this?>>>/vg/554046753
>>7859499awful body do people really think this looks good>>7859566kr0nprinz type girl
>>7859587deathmogs everyone here, which means you prob posted this as bait, lets see how the thread derails now
paige troon having another melty
>>7859587I can compliment
>>7859515wawawawawaaa
>>7859590>do people really think this looks goodwhat do you not like about it
>>7859587leave before its too late.
>>7859587>>>/vg/554045905>Somebody should pretend to be him and post it on /ic/ lmaotry posting your own artwork next time.
>>7859587post your own drawings instead, streetshitter
>>7859587I wish I had talent and could draw pretty girls like that.
tried adding colour for the first time
>>7859474omg, I made it to the collageThank you
Here are some studies from pictures, mainly focusing on getting the colors and overall composition right.But I had a questionHow do you learn the specifics?It feels like all painting tutorials are either entirely about composition and values or specifically about rendering.What about all the things in between like how do I paint a bunch of trees, or something that looks like a cabin, or whatever or how do i do right brush work for righting instead of doing whatever?
>>7859552 TALENT TALENT TALENT TALENT TALENT TALENT
>>7859566>>7859499A quickie, thanks for the challenge anons, both are nice.>>7859569I guess, It's all about the pose. You're free to add the amount of curvaceous bounteousness you see fit.. >>7859530I'm saving this masterpiece...>>7859622This is nice! I like the Achilles tendon detail on the feet in particular..>>7859515So clean and detailed, such pretty face, her eyebrow makes her perfect.>>7859592Perfect stylization of a complex pose!
>>7859645>What about all the things in between like how do I paint a bunch of trees, or something that looks like a cabin, or whatever or how do i do right brush work for righting instead of doing whatever?You just keep rendering, it's not a fast process
>>7859652>complex poseisnt it basic as shit
This is the year.I can feel it
>>7859654>isnt it basic as shitdraw it anon
>>7859655Feels god, isn't?>>7859654No, matchstick men are basic.
>>7859569If you can't see how it's more tasteful you're actually brainrotted
>>7859661i meant the pose>>7859662if you can then you can explain how no?
>>7858540I used Leyendecker's art because hes the best. But the problem I always encounter with him is I end up with these blocky structures that feel unnatural. I cant stop myself
>>7858522my guess is that you made the color de-saturate under light which is something that happens to skin but not really to fabric, also the folds are really thick, like it's leather or rubber
>>7859587it's hard to show off a character's back with long hair like that, props to the artist>>7859515nice work with the character>>7859652I will always respect you for consistently posting art
>>7859677oops
>>7859678Have you seen the new Primal season? I feel like you'd enjoy the show.
>>7859499>>7859566Tried to get the gesture right
>>7859653They don’t tell you in courses, but one of the toughest things after getting composition and values right, is not getting bored.I remember asking a xitter pro long ago how long it took him to paint a landscape, and the answer was 30 hours
>not in the OP>not a single word of advicei really should just end myself
>>7859689I feel like it isn't common knowledge that people worked on their painting for days on end or even months.
>>7859690Aye man, ask what you wanna ask, ill try my best
>>7859689Literally. You get 90% of the painting done within the first few hours. The last 10% is a demoralizing polishfest that can take hundreds of hours. It's why any competent painter can pop out a painting that looks finished in terms of everything except polish very quickly, call it a sketch, and people will call bullshit. Most people just aren't aware how much of a soul killing time sink final render and polish is.
>>7859691Makes a lot of sense, but it doesn’t really register especially in the digital landscape because that 40 hour painting and the 40-minute composition look about the same from afar.It’s like spending four hours just adding the right marks on all the tree stumps and shit.
>>7859695Impressionism is just a masterful artist's solution to polish. They'll just let their laziness be the treat for the eyes rather than the details, simplifying shapes and forms and only adding illusion of detail. The only instances you really need that mucha attention to detail splashart or centerpiece paintings that will be displayed somewhere with a lot of traffic
>>7859675>>7859675Lol you got me. That's what I did and why I did it. But I don't understand why this wouldnt happen to clothes. Ive always thought a red shirt under an open blue sky would turn greyer. Wouldn't this happen to a red jacket blasted by a light?>the folds are really thick, like it's leather or rubberYeah everytime I try to add the midtones this happens, but i cant possibly do without the midtones.
OP must really hate me..
>>7859698The current version of that is character close ups with 300 different lighting and particle effects.Like, enough with the Zelda close ups show me a solid drawing without all the three primary colors on full saturation
>>7859699i think that happens to skin because skin is partially translucent, so when light hits it dead on it gets washed out, but when it gets hit at an angle blood gets illuminated and shit. I guess this still happens to things that arent translucent but its when theyre non-saturated, like skin is pretty washed out arleady so when it gets hit by light it becomes the color of the sun, but clothes are very saturated so the needle doesnt get moved much
>>7859699Depends on if the clothes are being hit by direct or bounce lighting from the sun. Those would shift the hue warmer. If you were to have an area where bounce lighting and ambient lighting hit, you'd get more of a grey since the sun's warm colors would be interacting with the blue of the sky. If it's in a shadow area not being hit by the sun, the blue would interact with the surface color of the material and shift towards a more warm purple pastel color which you can bump up saturation on as long as it's within your value range to give people's eyes something to munch on.
>>7859667The clothing choice and pose. The focus in other other are on the woman's body and her lack of clothing. There isn't any intention or purpose behind it other than her body, they're almost candid photos. The other has a red background, a pose, a prop, and clothes/look that match the theme of the background. It's purposeful, someone had to direct her for that photo. The difference is casual eroticism vs artistry. That isn't to say eroticism ≠ artistry, there are many sexual photos that display very high levels of artistic and creative vision, even photos of penetration or sex can be tasteful yet erotic. All comes down to the intention of the director.
There is no artist hornier than Bruce Timm. It's been a joy to sketch along with his book, lmao
>>7859705>>7859707Youre both right and I see where I went wrong now. I completely ignored the saturation of the jacket in comparison to the saturation of the light. Indoor light is usually a lot less saturated. Lol damn I kinda fucked up there and i was sure i was right. Thanks guys
>>7859708>intention or purpose behind it other than her bodyso what is the intention and purpose behind the "more tasteful" one?
>>7859709I wonder, did he constrooct?
>>7859721I'd imagine the theme is something like a femme fatale or vampiric maneater. You're just trolling now if you're saying you can't see the difference in intention between the two. Literally a girl with a voluptuous body who's only intention is to take a photo of her ass for her gooner audience vs a photo that took at least 30 minutes to prepare a scene for if not much longer that is mostly definitely part of a larger session. Maybe you're getting off on me discussing this girl you posted with you, I don't know how people like you operate so I'm done
>>7859726i think youre getting angry, because you were forced to think about something you assumed to be true, and came away thinking that maybe you were wrong
>>7859732Absolutely not. I didn't just blindly say something. You on the other hand, have only offered this as your argument: "Okay but why?" While offering no actual substance to the discussion. Like speaking with a lobotomized toddler. Time to go look at your favorite boards!
>>7859739that wasnt an argument, it was a question which completely mind broke you
>>7859741Could you expand on that?
>>7859749i only asked why one image was more tasteful than the other, the fact that it pained you so much to finally answer and the answer was ambigous anyway, clearly shows it's an assertion you weren't ready to defend, and as you did you found inconsistencies in your worldview
>>7859752Fascinating, and what is my worldview?
>>7859474whiplash seeing it this is taking me so long already, i think ive been on it for 14 hours at least
>>7859753"image a is clearly more tasteful than b!!" and as you though about it you realized it's not as clear and your definition of tastefulness is loose
>>7859756Oh? And what is tastefulness to you?
>>7859758generally i thought tasteful = less explicit, so hardcore porn is not tasteful at all, by definition, while creative pinups are more tasteful. Though its well established at this point that nudity alone does not make an image safe, some poses are so vulgar that even without nudity they are raunchy = not tastefulBut calling a picture of cats tasteful doesnt make sense either, so tasteful means clearly sexual but also not explicit
>>7859766And what is explicit? Is that not a matter of your own worldviews?
>>7859766>>7859770This isn't me. I stopped engaging with you here >>7859726
>>7859770turn off your autism please.
>>7859725Somewhat. Bruce is an expert at rhythmically drawing the body, he obsessively obeys the S-curve and makes it work. No "constructive wedging," more like "line into line." That, and his secret technique is just to pair a straight opposite a curve.
>>7859784Original can be found here
>>7859766>calling a picture of cats tasteful doesnt make senseNot to contribute to nonsense but if interior design or attire can be tasteful, why not a picture of cats?Not asking for an answer, but expressing disagreement.
>>7859787oh yeah but i thought thats a different kind of tasteful, like fine art is tasteful but not in the same way as a pinup is tasteful, but if thats what someone meant then it makes sense they would think >>7859566 this is more tasteful
tried doing something different and it's complete and utter shithad a really cool idea of Odin's sacrifice, and trying to put it on paper makes it look like a kindergartener's retarded scribbleshow depressing
cow fan part 3
>>7859801>No wet patches on shirt
>>7859805very nice
>>7859499>>7859566
>>7859499I'll do the back view later
>>7859801LOL I remember this, it was hot:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAkHrYKmYzIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1f9y_VScaYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx9PwQP0Oi0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBV_EjoSwiYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaYjoCiVJnMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8Ww3tbj5YU
>>7859825didnt even know that actually existsthough shes getting her brain fried directly with microwaves instead of hypnosis
>>7859832kys paige
>>7859832Real women always trigger trannies lol
>>7859839That's a photoshopped "woman" you retarded br fuck
>>7859832>the nodraw faggot lashes out when it sees other anons actually make drawings
>>7859841Sure "sis"
>>7859850HUEAHUEAHUEAU U LIKE COPY
>>7859832>>7859841You will never be a real woman. You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs. You are a homosexual man twisted by drugs and surgery into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.Men are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed men to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even trannies who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a man. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected axe wound.You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably male.This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>7859841Pwoof?
>>7859855There's no way you're this fucking retarded. This HAS to be bait.
>>7859499this ho is shooped
>>7859857Paige the troon is having another meltyplease just ignore
>>7859856That bowstring gesture is really good.
>>7859857I unironically believe shitty referenfences are done on purpose to halt the progress of every single /beg/If you want to copy 3D bodies and sell them go here and ask for information to another third worlder that doesn't know how to draw >>7847806 enjoy eternally being /beg/ trash.
>>7859865>being /beg/ trash>0 work posted
>>7859865>he's STILL postingSad.
>>7859865if by shitty ref you mean a shooped/surgery whore surebut you seem to be throwing a bitch fit for racist reasons which case I hope big fat thighed bunda sluts get more and more posted in every single thread so you piss the fuck off
>>7859868>>7859869>No rebuttalI win. And i'm not posting any references either, this is the future you wanted, this is the future that you want. Dance in the mud, bath with shit. oink oink pig.
>>7859872>I win>still no work postedyeah won the begtard award
>>7859872You never would have posted any reference, neither your own work to create merit behind your shitposts. (we both know you never will pyw) And instead have a threadwide meltdown over anons simply drawing. Like nigger, who actually gives a fuck? You certainly don't considering you won't take the initiative to draw or post anything of substance other than just seethe.
>>7859855>Isn't Brazil full of tranny lovers?Nyo...
God I wish there was a decent and large art community not infested with crazies. Schizos really need to be shot there's just no saving some people
>>7859882Impossible, the majority of artist have some kind of mental issue, it's interconnected
>>7859882Art is a magnet for enviousnessSeeking feedback in an anonymous forum is madness
>>7859787Ignore them Russia sama>>7859805I'd rape the fuck out of that cute bat girl Torulene
>>7859499The best artists in the world are celibate and chaste, even ideally eunuchs.
>>7859874it seems I was right all along, you just got worked up and start throwing a tantrum because you are a tiny willied racist bitchI would love to see your work since you are calling everyone a beg, you must be a pretty good artist
>>7859879>You never would have posted any reference, neither your own work to create merit behind your shitpostsCorrect and the best part is that you know i'm right. This board is dead and i'm the eternal reminder.>>7859914call yourself a stupid bitch
>>7859920You're the eternal nodraw retard. Essentially the threads village idiot.
>>7859920>this board is le dead!!! in 17 minutes since your comment, there's been more than 20 other posts. If you want something faster than you could ever comprehend, stop using imageboards and forums.
Anyone have a good retard-friendly guide to using alcohol markers?
>>7859975Here's your guide:Experiment until you have an idea of how they work and you're no longer completely retarded to using them. If you bought ones that are too expensive to ruin, stop.
did continual movement gestures? of sprites because its more fun
Untalented "fun"
