If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>Post Your Work and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.When receiving a critique, try to provide one in return>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7859474
HUMILIATION RITUAL
Every post below this is made by a permabeg.
>>7862982Key. Funny thing is, though, I think that the quality of the individual drawings in these threads themselves are actually getting better and better, generally speaking. It's as if when we keep drawing, we improve with time.What a mysterious coincidence, I must say.
>>7862987Literally just a bunch of retards spamming low quality doodles, the fact that they haven't progressed in years is extremely funny.truly a mysterious coincidence ol' sport
>>7862988And you're one of them.
>>7862988Quality posters eventually fuck off and the people who appear to have quality work are either dipping in momentarily or have some pathology that either precludes them from sharing works publicly or they want to surround themselves with other artists who won't challenge the gains they've scraped together. Repeat this long enough and you get /beg/, and frankly /ic/.
>>7862994>sharing works publicly or they want to surround themselves with other artists who won't challenge the gains they've scraped togetherOr they actually draw and use programs where people actually draw? i'm just here to punch down cause i hate zoomers.
>>7862985Can't i have my own space? I don't get likes online so I just hope a few people would click on my drawing on 4chan to zoom and look at it for a second at least
>>7862995Yes, that would qualify for "wants to surround themselves with absolute beginners to magnify the significance of the progress they've made." I mean, obviously this is unique to 4chan, but still.
>>7863000Just stop, you are not a psychologist and you will never be, you will always be a retard. I just fucking hate zoomers and that has nothing to do with being surrounded with worse or better artists.i also hate "artists", hair colored retards, cat owners, stupid faggots, insane leftists.
>>7863002Lmao you don't need to understand psychology to understand that an anonymous environment simply encourages abusive behavior, you said so in your own posts, you're motivated by the thought of being able to freely abuse people around you. Combine this with the unique atmosphere of the anonymous art board, and yes, you arrive at the simple conclusion: people use this place because they're insecure about their art and can't stand the thought of someone being better than them, so they square the circle by looking for a place where they be anonymous and just not acknowledge the better art, or their own glasses, and can freely abuse nascent artists. Usually these people are about 1 step removed from /beg/s anyway, and would just get bodied if they tried this dance "publicly," but that's more on the psychology side than I think we should go ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>7863002>t. really soft boy who wants to look really toughie for the other edgy kids in a chinese basketweaving forum
>>7863006mucho texto not reading.
>>7863010100% chance you did read it because all "art kids" flirt with narcissism but you're definitely into "malignant" territory with your expressed intent of abusing people without recourse, and since the post involves you, the narc (yeah it's you, no you can't "hide" in lowercase), you definitely dissected it lmao
>>7863010Here you go, anon. If you need any help, just let me know.https://www.beginlearning.com/parent-resources/when-do-kids-learn-to-read/
i post here because im embarassed of my art
>>7863013This was very kind of you. It's not often that people seek to resolve a conflict, by dissolving a conflict, and you've got my respect for at least trying to help a troubled child.
>>7863006And what about the ones who are obviously talented and kind? What's your explanation on that? There are a few of those here.
>>7863012>"art kids" flirt with narcissism importantly stupidity and ignorance, they will never learn to draw so who cares about those faggots anyways.Truth hurts.
>>7863016
>noo dont make fun of my doodlerinos>you are le......EVIL
are we being raided
the whole of 4chan is being "raided" for years now
>>7863047>>7862994Mmm I don't have a community of skilled artists to go so I stick here, I would participate in /int & /adv if there were one
>>7863032That's literally you, but you're worried about bullies on Twitter dunking on your pseudanime shit scribbles so you not only stay away from real critique you actively seek out the one place where there are artists less skilled than you, AND nobody will call you a shitcock for acting like a shitcock, nice self own
>>7863038>raided"Raided" nigga shut the fuck up you ARE the raider if you arrived less than 19 years ago
Why are we getting upset at eachother for posting in these threads? If there are rules for who can and can't post make em clear>>7862605>but as i've said im really /beg/ so my advice might be all retarded useless bullshit.have more confidence I think it was solid advice and your painting looks pretty gud, good job on making it into the OP collage btw that means that guaranteed that one person really liked it (excluding me cause i also liked it hehe).
>>7863016Pure souls who are too good for this shit world
bweeehh...
>>7863063THREAD CHALLENGE
>>7863016the exception doesn't make the rulelots of highints and above are the biggest miserable insecure faggots as much as begs if given a justified target they can harass and virtue signal how heckin basednotcringe and a good person they areYou guys need to just realize that most people really are just miserable retards who want to feel above and better than anyone else without actually doing anything
Yo
>>7863071Nice, the dress is a banger
>>7863064Maybe. That could be fun>>7863066Speaking from experience, I've meet plenty of nice people that were both good and bad at art/drawing, and likewise the other way around. It depends on perspective, I guess.>>7863071Yo, great drawing.
>>7863051could you clarify the distinction of the two mass methods in gesture with an example an unfamiliar beg could understand?
delayed this comission for 10+ days, I rlly didn't want to draw this
>>7863090Why, it looks pretty cool
Does anyone know a good resource to learn comstruction? I'm trying to draw from life and things like proportions slowly go from "horrendous dogshit" to "hey this looks like the thing I'm drawing". Only problem is that I usually got the outline and large details, but afterwards I don't really know what to do when theres alot of details or making things look more 3D.Is han's dynamic sketching a good choice for my problem?
>>7863090If I comm'd this and it doesn't come with a panel showing the pussy lips (or balls) peeking out from the fabric I'd call PayPal and reverse the charge
>>7863085do you draw the gesture outline that small on the side as ref or do you draw on top of it at a different size?
my progress is really slowing down because now i'm focusing less on rooms and more about small details. i'm trying to connect the reserve fuel tanks on deck 6 to the engines on deck 4. i've got a pretty good plan, but it will take time.recently i've added fuel inlets and outlets on deck 6 that connect to the sides of the hull. i've added expansion tanks (pressure relief) to the pumps on deck 4 and connected the starboard and port engines to the pumps. i'm gonna have the fuel tubes connect to the secondary engines, and then the central primary engine, then they'll go down to deck 6 in a vertical channel.this project is starting to fatigue me and i really plan on trying out an imperial raider corvette. but i'm resisting the urge to drop the project.
>>7863095Keep the gesture simple. One line for flow, one for a stabilizing force, large masses blocked in loosely. This doesn't work unless you know 90% of what you're laying down and why (eg, the legs and pelvis obscure the stomach in a shot where the character is vaulting over something and coming "at" the camera). Then use wrapping lines to establish what is where. If something is receding, just wrap it a few times to show it moving "back" into the picture plane. Reverse for whatever direction, really. This helps keep things organized for when you clean up and establish the anatomy. If
>>7863090this is why you just outright refuse some commissionersI've had to turn down some that were just outright awful to look at, couldn't be salvaged
>>7863102Oh yeah, the resource: try Michael Hampton until you get his technique down, then just use it for your own purposes. David Finch has a good method, and so does Glen Vilppu. YouTube or pirate, doesn't matter.
>>7863102>>7863108Thank you for the advice anon. I was actually talking more about "things" or animals instead of people but I'd love to draw people at some point, so it's still very helpful. Just feel like humans are gonna pretty tough at my current skill level since I have no idea about anatomy or construction.
>>7862977Just a little bit moreI have to study the water a big more
>>7863066This is such an incredibly top tier dunning kruger post. Like holy fuck can you go 3 seconds without inhaling your own shit?
>>7863058ah thank you kindly anon, i do get whiplash seeing my drawings in the op. i appreciate it i'll try to build more confidence. im really pushing myself trying to do new things and failing exceptionally so its a bit hard to feel a sense of accomplishment hahai know im doing a lot of things wrong but can't quite figure out what vexes me socan't help myself from writing too much lol sorry
>very productive last couple of days>now can barely muster the energy to draw anythingits sucks, youd wish the streak would last forever
>>7862977>Draw girl>Color her skin>Move the window to secondary monitor>She looks yellow>Fuck around with the base color until it looks right>Move back to primary monitor>Now she looks purpleFUCKI would like your opinion on which side looks better to you so I can find out which monitor is the weird one. I don't want people to laugh at my girls like they have some kind of skin disease. Gonna need to get into color calibration I guess.
>>7863056I dont use twitter, i just post art and follow artists, but more importantly, why would i care about the opinion of abandoned children and middle eastern retards?
>>7863090How much did you charge
>>7863130Doesn’t it depend on the lighting of the scene? The first one felt like if she stayed in one of those cheap hotel room lighting, second one feel like if she had only been gooning to her computer at the middle of the night. Preferred the second one because it looked much cooler.Btw, great coloring on both end
its going to take a long time before i can drop my chicken scratching habit....
>>7863131>why would i care about the opinion of abandoned children and middle eastern retards?Idk retard you tell me, you're the one who values their opinions enough to try and validate yourself to them itt. All without work, too, go figure. Bitch.
>>7863130I prefer the right but I lean toward pink tinted skin since it feels more lively, and in this case it complements the purple in her hair. However in the absence of a comparison, neither looks bad enough to make me think it was a mistake.
Why is this art board so full of people who don't even draw now. If you don't draw close the thread. No shit so few people post finished art here it's full of all the children who sit alone at lunch.
>>7863148You mad? Here, put your cape back on and be Supermad. Or go to Twitter where you can sign your shit with name and face, pussy.
>>7863130If she's in a white void, right is more common and more appealing.I'm surprised the other two responses to your post didn't mention how atrocious that armpit is. It brings down your drawing far more than the color.
>>7863137>>7863146I see I see, thanks!>>7863154Yeah, I tried making the armpit from imagination. Gotta have to find a good ref for it since I intend to post both versions (shaved/unshaved)
>>7862977
>>7862991Neat but not readable >>7863127That's life
>>7863089Sure I will do post some examples for you little grasshopper, but I don't have time right now...>>7863156It's a zone where the pectoral, the triceps and the major dorsal ends with some minor muscles, if you draw nsfw you absolutely need anatomy
>>7863157Holy crap, those girls are pretty, I like it
>>7863085>I've meet plenty of nice people that were both good and bad at art/drawing, and likewise the other way around. It depends on perspective, I guess.As is with most things.Trying to attribute a person's worth and personalities based on what a person is skilled at or owns, is pure corporate mentality.The opposite of attributing a person's skills and worth based on what they say is also pure mental illness and coping if it's not actual damage control and deflection.It's like the meme of people saying someone could never be a bad person because they donate to charity.If i was a serial killer, i would work where my job would be saving lives.If i was a thief, i would work at the bank.If i was a bad guy, i would really try to come off as a good guy; because if i'm a good guy, how could i ever be the bad guy? And to anyone that would dare question my goodness; god have mercy, because i shall have none. I am a good guy after all.
>>7863153You have homework due tomorrow
>>7863170Yeah you too big dawg, where's that work? Or maybe I'm right and you're scared little pussy who won't put his name on his shitty anime floating girl pictures. Don't worry, time will pass and you can go back to being an anonymous retard trolling other retards with slightly worse skills than you win enough.
>>7862977For some reason I absolutely love drawing thick line art. This isn't mine but I find regular line art to just not be my cup of tea. I'm worried it's gonna look childish or not taken seriously though.
>>7863181I love bold outlines with thin inner lines for detail, what you posted is awesome. It can be done well with a mature audience in mind.
I tried to force myself including values and background now. Better than characters floating in the air, I suppose.1/3
>>7863188Pretty difficult, I tried to block everything, and avoid soft edges.2/3
>>7863189I'll work on colors much laterFeedbacks welcome, as always3/3
will i forget how to draw if i took a break life 2 -3 months?
>>7863188>>7863189>>7863190I'm too beg to give any particular advice but these look cool. I like the second one most the lighting and the long robe is nice
>>7863189this one is epic
>>7863188>>7863189>>7863189Countering the malding jeet: these are good and you're doing good work. The background and value study instantly make the work much more appealing, nice job.
>>7863193not fully but you would probably need to spend some time warming up again
spamming low effort garbage is.......LE GOOD
>>7863193It depends on how much you draw. Something will be lost, but some cumulative knowledge will never disappear. I take half-year breaks every year or so and no one notices the difference.
>>7863064Just got back from walking the dog and shopping. Here's a 5 minute free-hand copy for you. It looks like I gave her a mustache. It was a fun distraction, though I fail to see what much can be learned from it, besides the style.>>7863097I usually draw the gesture/sketch as a baseline, and then I draw on top of it at 5 percent opacity. Afterwards, I scale it down, place it next to the drawing, see how I interpreted the sketch, then I take some notes and move on to the next one. It's fast, and it works well for learning how my eyes interpret and remembers the details and forms of the sketch underneath. It's a fun exercise, but not much else.>>7863127I feel you, anon. I have those days too.>>7863130It's a decent drawing, and colours correction can be annoying. I myself use reading glasses, and there's a slight shift in hue from it, so I get it. That being said, The armpit is way to complicated, as many other anons have noted.>>7863138They look good. Bridgman's own drawings aren't free of scratching as well, so it's better to interpret the drawings rather than copy them 1:1.>>7863150Didn't manage to reply in the previous thread. Your work is great, do you have any finished pieces?>>7863157Great stuff. I'm still working on how to better stylize my characters, but it's getting there slowly.>>7863166What you're constructing is basically anti-social behavioral masking.As a fun fact: serial killers working in healthcare is extremely common, surprisingly so. A lot of jobs that include vulnerable people as a part of it attracts people that want power over others for the sake of it, sometimes (though thankfully rarely) at the cost of lives.Also, being a thief is not worth if. Just learn locksmithing, and you'll rob people blind from the fees.>>7863190All of them are fantastic, especially this last one. I feel like the first one's values are a bit too flat, but the other two are lovely.
>>7863190i like this one a ton, is it moran? i think you did a great job portraying her. the lightning is great. seconding the other anon, don't have any particular advice to offer
circlejerk looney trooney, this is why you don't encourage the woman low effort garbage spam
>>7863204It looks cute
or maybe you don't care about the quality and that's why you do it. To kill the already dead board.
>>7863206You don't draw
>>7863206this is beg what kind of quality are you expecting to be posted?
I'm bad at this.
>>7863212She's not beg and also constantly spams the board with garbage. I expect /beg/ and /int/ drawings, not a circlejerk spam.
>>7863215That's beg tho??
>>7863181A small amount of Tom Bloom's work fits this. He normally uses much thinner lines, but I just love his art.
>>7863222It's beg because it's literally spam
>drawing thread>people get mad when you draw
More like Indians and Latinos get mad when you're not Indian or Latino near them
>>7863231>Latinos:(
>>7863232You know what you did.
>>7863229>nodraws get mad when you drawftfy
Forget about this, let's talk about something important
why /ic/ getting raided more than any boards i ever seen
>>7863238Because it's not a raid, 95% of the artists are mentally ill
Did another goober bird. The details are pretty overwhelming for me so I'm unsure how to draw / simplify them, but this is me trying to copy anyway so I guess the details aren't insanely important. I'll post reference next
>>7863089there you go, i might be wrong and in my position i learned that everyone is wrong in some degree because of the way they understand the concept, my point was never to adopt the ways of someone else but to take their knowledge and try to understand what they say and bend it to my likings creating a notion of mine about the concept>>7863229i know, the system should be more democratic like voting for someone to be ip banned is they doesnt contribute to the thread... but that would in a sense kill the escense of 4chan
>>7863240the creature in question
Anyone know is this is a decent course for begs to start with gesture / figure? The alternative one would be hamptons gesture and figure construction course, that one does seem more difficult I think?
>>7863244Loomis is free and I'm certain FWaP is a better ease-in.I really think anybody and everybody should at least try loomis' books before spending money on an online course
>>7863245money? dude we fucking have a whole thread for those courses
>>7863244You can find it on online-courses club for free. No harm in checking it out.
>>7863245Thanks for the advice, but isn't fwap for heads.Maybe I missed something since I didn't read the whole book yet, but I'd be willing to check it out.I'm interested in drawing the entire body and this one was recommended by a few people, but you know how it is, ask 10 people and you'll get 10 answers which is understandable.Oh and I'd pirate the course, no way I'm paying that money.
>>7863244check the reviews and the results posted
>>7863244this is just guess but proko figure course is hard for a beg i think micheal hampton gesture and figure drawing courses might be good for a beg
>>7863205Thanks man, it is indeed Moran>>7863194>>7863197>>7863198>>7863204Thanks peeps
>>7863253i disagree, figure and gesture is /beg/ tier, they are never anatomically correct and they are not expected to be.
>>7863253don't they teach the same thing?
>>7863255post your gesture
>>7863257Hampton is better at explaining the gesture than proko, iirc Hampton just appears on the channel and takes care of that block of instruction
>>7863260oooh, you mean in the videos. I was actually talking about the gesture course by hampton himself. His way of drawing gesture is somewhat different looking from proko but I'm not sure if there any actual difference, probably very little
>>7863261No ultimately you're good to figure out your own way to do it, it's just about finding someone to show you what needs done, ways to do it, and then you practice and refine with what you like/what gets you the results you want
>>7863263makes sense, thanks anon, I'm probably overthinking the whole thing
>>7863264gesture drawing is highly subjective
>>7863259
Finished Monday's drawing; original is here:>>7861666
>>7862991This looks cool, but I don't know what it is.>>7863071Nice expression! It really communicates otherworldliness, with a hint of almost disgust.>>7863085I like the square jawline in particular.
>>7863114I think that this looks amazing! I agree; the water could use some finishing touches.>>7863126Nice work on the torso; the lines on it evoke mystery and make me curious about your picture.>>7863127This must have taken a lot of time and effort; I commend your dedication. Somehow, it feels like the lines on the top gun (heh) could be smoother. I think that shading will really make the lower gun more vibrant.
>>7863130>black hair>purple eyesmega based.I think that the skin on the left looks more natural, although it looks like she'll have sunburn the next day. The left image reminds me of jaundice a little. The hair looks off on both images.>>7863138>>7863150LGTM>>7863157I like the detail on the top left man's forehead; this in particular looks really nice. The women are certainly beautiful! The bottom right image has her jaw looking a little too square IMO; I can tell that you've been LOOOOMISing.>>7863159Very cute! The proportions on this are very nice.>>7863181Those lines certainly are a bold statement. It all comes together to make a good image, though.
>makes $1500 a month for this
>>7863274wth is "LGTM"
>>7863276https://duckduckgo.com/?origin=funnel_home_google&t=h_&q=lgtm+meaning&ia=web
>>7863275politics is horoscope for retards who believe they're smart
>>7863275>anon discovers how much money political cartoonists make $1500 is kinda low compared to the ol' newspaper cartoonists
>>7863275Yea courtesy of Eglin AFB
why is drawing faces so hard?
I'm going to come back to this later I just don't want to look at it right now
>>7863279generations are horoscopes for retards who watch too much TV
>>7863289Horoscopes are horoscopes for homoscopes, Homoscope.
>>7863284
>Start drawing >Do my daily practice and stuff>Time to actually draw something>Ended up ripping and trashing the paper up later I don't understand. I've been at this for years now and my ability to draw has actually gone down. Before I could draw and knockout two pages of actual drawings. Now I can't even do one. How do I get out of this hole?
>>7863284idk about the mouth, i need to study them
>>7863294idk, when i dont want to draw i dont do it, but if some days have passed then i force myself, sometimes i look for little objetives, or focus only on problems like the gesture on the hands, the volume, etc. or i just draw what i like the most, like legs and feets, butts, i dont draw boobs often but i do my studies about them
>>7863293kek>>7863295nice
dam i spend like 2 hours on this.
Hey guys here's a collection of comics I made, can I make good money posting these on patreon or should I continue drawing cubes until I get better?
>>7863300<-- ref i used
>>7863301If this shit had to compete today and not in the barren cultural wasteland of 20th century comic strips then even less people would be talking about it, and as it stands, only me and you are talking about fucking Cathy. You got an edge like a fuckin spoon.
>>7863300Looks great, face is a bit temu but looks good regardless.
Her boobs are getting bigger, my venus, my aphrodite, just wait until i have a nice job
>>7863293LMAO
>>7863325right one is a femboy?
>>7863204Thank you. The last full piece I posted on /ic/ was this.https://litter.catbox.moe/gcyxs5.png
>>7863329blog?
>>7863330I have a twitter but I stopped posting my work there years ago. I don't want to start uploading work until I get better.
>>786313525 usd>>7863092just not in a good headspace to do be doing comissions, or drawing in general
left: figure study from early September, basically my first ever 'figure study', done largely haphazardly and without careful attention.Right: figures I did the past couple days. (I'm still very bad with heads)
>>7863284Idunno. It seems pretty easy to me.
>>7863333Lol nigga, charge more
oh look, an actual finished piece. i think this is kinda overworked and i made my lines too thick to be stylistically "cool". but, happy with the general vibes and learned a lot! procreate - sketch round brush by jingsketch.
the challenge
>>7863340nice. I think this would look much more aesthetic if you reduced the outlines on the leaves. light outline on a few sides of the leaves instead of a complete outline from all sides.
Somebody does know the logic on why sometimes the mouth works better on one side of the face than on its normal place?For the rest, I am trying to draw the simplest characters ever that can be expressive (and potentially coomer material)
>>7863343i was going to say this too anon. Great atmosphere on the other side>>7863340
>>7863329>full pieceanon that's a sketch
>>7863338It's really hard getting comissions nowadays, so I charge as little as possible
>>7863360He's trapped in sketchcel hell because he's unconfident in his capabilities
>>7863338but how much?
>>7863361because of ai? fffffck, and i want to make a living of drawing big butts/boobs
>>7863370I dunno, i charge 50
>>7863372Thank god for AI, you people are scammers.
>>7863372can you post an example of your work? i need some guidance about how much should i price my job
>>7863361Brother you have pretty beautiful art AND you're drawing furry shit. 25$ is an insanely low price for your work you can at the bare minimum double if not triple it depending on how big your audience is
>>7863367im a sketchcel too, havent heard of shading/ coloring in my life. fortunately you can make it as a sketchcel, see pic related
I'm so happy I don't need to dedicate many hours of my time creating something I couldn't care less about for the price of a fucking door dash order minus tip. Wageslavery has its perks.
>>7863376i'd consider this a finished piece
>>7863375>beautiful artYou people are fucking insane. Actually charging $50 for a piece of trad garbage.
>>7863379and yet it has minimal shading and or coloring, just as the piece criticized
>>7863284"Hey Lois, remember the time I was raped by a fat ugly bastard?"No hate, I love your stuff.
>>7863340>>7863181>>7863223I think those are cool
if you guys want furry trash, porn, eroticism go to any gen prompt general, don't waste money on garbage.
>>7863373Nta but there are people charging 100 for half body out there
>>7863392not for long.
>>7863394Two more weeks!
>>7863392Charging isn't the same as getting
>>7863395How about now? If anyone wants porn, don't commission, i will do it for free (minus furry shit cause i'm not into that). Character/Artist/Pose and you get it for $0.If you want to do art you better git gud or get out. I can't change the entire internet but i can change my surroundings and that's enough for me.
>>7863399Shouldn't you be flinging shit with the other An Indians?
>>7863400I think AI is garbage , souless, it has no value and it can't be categorized as art.I also think R34 western """"art"""" is garbage, souless, it has no value and it can't be categorized as art.
>>7863399fuck off, we investing time and effort here, so many neurons lost... ai is the worst thing that happened to us artist
>>7863380retardchama... his art is digital...I know you've been spamming the thread since the start, but please try harder.
>>7863375I don't have that big of an audience, only 700~ followers on twitter
Why do AI fags not seem to understand that the people who want to spend money on commissions are not interested in slop? Everyone on the internet knows about AI, yet they still go for commissions. Everyone who wants to generate endless slop every day are already doing it and were never going to pay for commissions in the first place
>>7863422Because normies are stupid, they don't realize that the chinese dumped every single asian artist on the thing. Didn't a girl got caught tracing AI using Ixy and some other artist as the style? she was selling the """"art"""" for hundreds of dollars. It's a matter of time until they realize that commissions are scams. Commissioning in 2026 is beyond fuckingtarded.
>why do ai tards keep spamming?because they literally ain't got shit else in lifeeven if you dont reply, they're just going to reply to themselves pretending to be butthurt artists and keep arguingAssuming it's not actual spambots of courseAll the current internet spam is to just get people tired so they ask for digital IDs and more control, but it won't change anything.Stop trying to reason with the mentally ill. Aitards are the trannies of technology.
>>7863400AI bros hate having fun really
>>7863099is this a halo ftl mod
cute and funny NOW
Hello people, I'm very new to drawing seriously. I thankfully have some basic skills from doodling during classes back in school but that's pretty much it. I started draw almost daily 1-2 weeks ago. I do some basic sketches giving myself 10-20 mins for each one. The red numbers mark in which order I drew them. I am wondering if this is good enough to start doing more complex things. Any advice is welcome, I'm pretty clueless
>>7863447Fuck I'm so retarded I can't even write properly
>>7863447For beginner sketches these are fine, biggest issue is the chicken scratching, fine for hatching but you'll want to try to make more confident strokes when making the figure.I would skip Betty's book or Fun with a Pencil and jump into Glen Vilppu or Loomis figure drawing books if you want to get better at drawing humans.
>>7863447Try Challenge52. It's well paced and structured. It'll advance you properly and week2 is fun. (some say it's just drawabox)
>>7863447i dont see your construction lines, where are them?
practice
>>7863073>>7863085>>7863271thanks, i gave her a digital treatment haha
Got around to finishing this
>>7863463I wanna draw mecha like that eventually. Very cool>>7863465Nice hips
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>>7863452You're right, I will try to make a conscious effort to avoid chicken scratches. I plan on doing Loomis but I was thinking of first going with Bridgman, since I like Frazetta's art very much.>>7863453I will check it out, it might helpful to practice more consistently. Thanks.>>7863455I didn't use any, I think. That's why my perspective is so bad in all the sketches.
>>7863503soul
>>7863361Some guy has been begging me for hours to accept his commission (which would be just a photoshop edit lol) saying he's depressed and poor, i feel bad some people struggle like thisHe just didn't know i'm also depressed and poor
>>7861945PAGE 2 DONE! I really want to do the 3RD page, but I don't want to drop the amputee prison story... such tough decisions... AAAAHHHHHHHHHH >>7862503>oh Peril, I sure look forward to this one.>For a short moment I wondered and worried whether you might actually know me irl - heh.Thank you! I hope you enjoy it! I used this >>7856440 as ref for the main guy and the Shibari Master, lol. >>7862499>i like the colored drawingsThank you dear Monka! Yes, now I'm realizing that the extra amount of work really adds up to the overall effort. This one is going to be hard, but I already have the whole story written down. It should be doable. But I won't be able to do the Cowboy comic, three stories at the same time is too much lol>>7863386YES, a mystery warrior under a red sun... I love it>>7863189Beautiful composition >>7863157Is that Josh Brolin?>>7863085Cool, he has a Humphrey Bogart resemblance >>7863071Absolutely gorgeous little piece!>>7863503That's a beautiful face on the left!
sketch of website tans
>>7863497holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit those are a delicius pair of tumors, wth...
>>7863501well you can think of construction lines as being used for perspective, but the thing is that they are an hypothesis an are used everywhere, when you treat them as confirmations lines (final lines) you will struggle to "construct" the form but if you keep open minded and embrace the duality of line where it can be an hypothesis ready to be a confirmation or a confirmation that needs to be converted back to an hypothesis then you will "construct" the drawing
>>7863520Oh I think I see what you mean, that's a really good way of thinking about it and I hadn't done so. I will try to use construction lines for my next sketches. Thank you very much.
im really struggling to replicate the pose of a reference. I would rather not trace. Using simple shapes isnt helping. advice please
>>7863524Just draw
I'M REALLY FUCKING STRUGGLING WITH EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE!
>>7863524post the ref and your attempts so we can see what's going wrong
How do you stop being nervous and accept the result?
>>7863552shoganai
>>7863553>shoganaibut I want it to look cool like in my head
My sketching is ugly and retarded while talented artists have theirs down in the first strokes.
Why does my head construction feel flat? Did I do this correctly?
Watercolor I did today.
>>7863531i'm overwhelmed. I have to draw this but don't think I'm selling the illusion of foreshortening on this doodle.I can't even fathom how I'll get down her complicated clothing.
>>7863568You need Talent
I know I said I don't like drawing people and or characters.... I do sometimes.I enjoy jank early black metal art.So here is some jank
>>7863569Maybe I'll find it if I keep going.
>>7863571You are born with talent. Skill is found and talent guides you to it.
masturbating keeps taking up all my drawing time and its getting really annoying to deal withi wish i was joking
>>7863497there you have it, she has a lot of booba and i could not fit them in my brain>>7863583crap, how many times do you need to calm down?>>7863571thats the mindset>>7863568do you want a "redline" on how i would approach it? i have time...
>>7863568used that negative space as a sort of guidance. >>7863585beautiful busty babe. And if it's not too much trouble I'd like to see that redline please.my wrist hurts. I'm gonna jerk off and go to sleep. I'll respond tomorrow if you do. Good night.
Am I gonna hit a wall trying to learn / copy vilppu or bridgman as a beg? I did this >>7863240 for example. Also more birds last thread.
Would you?I can tell the arms are uneven but I feel like thats a consequence of the initial circle body being too wide. I tried to place the eyes as perfectly apart as possible using construction lines I learned from loomis but it still felt off because I guess the crosslines weren't perfectly centered.
>>7863602Would
>>7863600Bridgman is too hard for /beg/s. Vilppu is hit or miss, he's teaches more intuitively, so the type of people that need everything explained don't find him very useful. You'd probably like Brent Eviston, he does birds and figures too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vK84953ivs
>>7863602I can tell you traced that reaction image of the in game model
How do you start drawing figures in 3d or perspective? I can draw them head-on, but if I try a 3/4 view for example my mind just breaks. Is there something I should be practicing or some resource to understand it?
>>7863568There you have it. I changed the position of the right arm to make it more interesting, added more of the legs and feet with high platform heels because I love them and women are incomplete without a good pair of legs. I need to study shoe design; my heels are very standard. The facial expression needs to be changed to something more attractive and sexy. I drew the legs about three times, exaggerating the perspective so that it doesn't match the reference itself, but rather the perspective it shows. The little man is still pending for now. I could increase the size of his chest, but that would detract from the legs.
>>7863626i might make a lineart, paint it and pair it with an abstract background, hypothetically speaking how much should i charge for the lineart, and for the finished piece (lineart+paint+abstract bg)?
>>7863602idk
>>7863623boxes unironically
>>7863565my loomis is a bit rusty, i dont use it anymore 'cause it is too rigid, personally i think you might be struggling with proportions and constructing the form and the lines, your lines shows that you are not "sketching" but confirming your lines too early...time to sleep, cya
Thoughts on this newsletter-bait guide?https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gIXdlGGQObAEmCweUPzun-DMlq7dcv9y/view
I used a cropped ref and have on trying to make the foot on left
>>7863567That looks really nice.
>>7863399>>7863422I hope so, commissions from people that want just drawing and don't give a fuck about me are always a chore. I rather have less commissions but work with people that care.
when do you "get" gesture? even following rules, it feels off
>>7863704you think you followed the rules but that motherfucker is straight as an arrow. try copying or even tracing some of hampton's gestures first to get a feel of the flow
>>7863546Thank you very cool Torulene
>>7863704>curves opposite straights>3d head oriented properly>line of action in tactThis is fine, just keep working. Crabs gonna crab.
>>7863626>>7863585Is this AI?
>>7863271>I like the square jawline in particular.Yeah, me too.It was difficult to translate to this shape-design style, but it worked well enough.>>7863510>Cool, he has a Humphrey Bogart resemblanceNice, thank you. Then I did my job well enough, it's deeply inspired by a reference of him, and a couple of other noir detectives.And lovely full color page, too. Looks brilliant.>>7863208Thanks, anon.
>>7863736more bridgeman?
>>7863740Yep. 80 percent of the time, I just do studies. It's not very exciting, honestly. This week, It's Bridgman, like the week before. Good stuff, especially if you're drawing it trad.
Here's another small ten-minute sketch. Had a lot of fun with this one.>>7863497Oh my. How's that even possible?>>7863503Nothing wrong with large hands, fella. I like it.>>7863508Great sketches.>>7863530>>7863532Absolutely adorable.>>7863565Like what the other anon said, Loomis especially can be way rigid. I completely skipped him in favor of more loose and gesture based methods, like what Hampton teaches. I found it more fun, and it can be manipulated easily, once you wrap your head around it.>>7863570Great jank. Keep drawing what you love, it looks fun.>>7863585Great stuff as well, anon. I really enjoy your pin-up "sort-of Disney" style. It's great. I would love to see more of your work.>>7863667I think it looks great, but I suck at feet, so I can't really comment on that. I do feel like the perspective on the left leg is off somewhat, like the lower leg should point more backwards, like the other one. Take it with what you will.
>>7863726nigga I’m just giving him actionable advice that helped me. he clearly admits he is not satisfied with it
>>7863713Are you gonna namedrop me every thread now
>>7863777what method is your head construction based on?
>>7863667the right leg (knee-ankle) is on a different plane than the left leg, you need to place a floor or keep it in mind when you draw...>>7863704gesture is a big uninterrupted line, and it has hierarchy so you need a big curved line for the whole body and secondary curved lines for the limbs, the primary is the master and you slave the secondaries to it...>>7863729nop, that's how I draw, do you want an speedup video? like an hour compressed to 2 minutes...>>7863777"disney style", you mean because of the face? that wasn't intended, i might need to review it...
You’re right I suck I’ve stopped drawing I won’t waste my time anymore I’m just going to play Fortnite.
>>7863798King shit.
>>7863789I would say Hampton, if I were to pin it down. I'm very loose about contruction, unless I'm uncertain as to how I'm going to draw something. Hampton's method starts by only doing gestures, then he slowly builds contruction around those principles. I can highly recommend his book, especially if you plan on just copying images, though the written elements are brilliant, too. It also makes it very easy to build on top of it, like comparing his methods with Bridgman, which is a great experience. It's also infuenced by other artists, though only slightly so.>>7863795Mainly a combination of shape design and the face, to an extent. It looks great, I think, though I'm highly westernized in my approach. I'm still learning to become better at stylization, western and especially eastern (anime) methods, which you seem to be much better at.
wowow i wouldnt comsider anyof this stuff beginner maybe im js retarded. anyway my drawign
>>7863802I see, my artist of reference is REIQ and although he draws in manga style some of his drawings fall more in the western side of the world, that might be the cause I implicitly drew a face like that, another cause can be the way anime-manga style is more planar-ish when it comes to faces but in my attempt I try to express the volume of the face, another cause can be the proportions, I worked out proportions from REIQ's illustrations and put them in the back of my mind, maybe if a workout proportions of asian artist who draw in manga style or ai slop that mimics it I should get more or less the same results, like reducing the length between the center of the imaginary line that exists from corner to corner in both eyes and the chin, making eyes bigger and mouth smaller, idk...
>>7863777Loomis book still in a Chinese Factory.
>>7863833cute! love !
>super beg but not unhappy with lines of paper>decide to try out digital>it's back to babbys first day of drawingDayum everything looks all messed up, holding the stylus is kinda weird too
>>7863824Not a big reiq fan, his jiggly-girls stuff was lame to the extreme. Though his rough sketches were actually nice. I don't know why the rendering took all the appeal out of his female figures. Weird.
>>7863821Banger colors, I like it, anon
>>7863835>lines of paperWhoops, meant to say lines ON paper.
>>7863240Looking good! Go and fill in the other values
>>7863840tysm!!
>>7863851Yea thats kinda my problem currently, I don't even know where to start after the outline.
>>7863821I unironically love this kind of stuff, though I'm biased towards artistic intent and expression. Very fun, and the colours are great.>>7863824The great stuff about YouTube tutorials is their way of showcasing how to do stuff "quickly" in a bite-sized 8 to 20 minute video. Nevertheless, it's a good idea to balance learning on not just one source, or you'll fall in the trap of only being able to render in one type of style. The most egregious example I cam come up with was the certain "Instagram" anime style that was popular back in late 2024, I believe. I bounce between Hampton and Bridgman to see where they overlap and how they simplify anatomy, shape and form. Hampton's gestures are absolutely brilliant, while Bridgman's construction and breakdowns of anatomy is much more in depth, and the drawings goes from schematic to simple in a good rhythm. The usual steps in "Constructive Anatomy", the one I'm using, it goes from a general overview, then to a more anatomical, and finally to a sharp and structured understanding of the two. It's great, especially if you break down the drawings while you copy and read. I'm not the biggest fan of Loomis for beginners, but in his book " Successful Drawing" the chapter on light and form (page 78 and onwards) are a stroke of genius. It's seriously some of the best work I've seen in regards on how to easily understand and render light with a pencil, not kidding.>>7863825Fantastic, simple as.
As an addition to what I said in >>7863859Just look at this. Ever single drawing past page 134 in Successful Drawing are absolutely gorgeous. When it comes to rendering with a pencil, Loomis' learning material absolutely dominates, no doubt about it.
>>7863615No I just drew a circle. I have yet to try tracing anything
it's dogshit that i fucked up, but it's my dogshit that i fucked up at least
>>7862977something I'm currently working at. I just want some feedback even if it's harsh. I just want to improve. Thanks.
Another Homura study. Some foreshortening here, so I think that's a good skill to have.
>>7863891Original
>>7863891You unironically need to do peter han's most basic shit and drawabox. But just the first lessons. You need to learn how to make marks correctly. Don't try anything more complex than a bunch of boxes and shit.
how do I stop being a lazy pos, and why do oils take 5 million years to dry.
WipSo far so good but something is missing for surein terms of painting ik the pose is awkward af
>>7863892>>7863891Senseifag was making perfect bridgman studies in a week and this nigga has been permaprebeg for a straight month.Do you still believe talent isnt real?
>>7863898Use gamsol on the 1st layers. It works like a charm and it dries them very quickly. Plus you can do stuff in paralell.
>>7863869>>7863898Looks cute
>>7863899Anatomy looks fine, but you need to redo the gross pillow shading
>>7863903Is there a difference between odorless turpenoid and gamsol? because that’s what i’m using right now in my jar
>>7863901People just lie about how much time they take to do something. I spent about a year grinding it out until I could do things well, and I also claim it took me a week if asked. Just thins the competition a bit.
>>7863909How do I fix it?Because to me all anime shading looks like that with a little more shine.Also here's some other non anime world to paint a better picture (lol)
>>7863910Don't use turpenoid even if it's odorless. It's toxic and gamsol it better. Gamsol can be used both as medium and also to clean brushes. It's great.
>>7863869I think it's a fantastic frog. It looks great.>>7863875There's beauty in this type of linework. I envy you.>>7863877That looks sick, anon. Nice.>>7863901If you're talking about me, then that's just disingenuous, bordering on a lie. I spent the first two months just doing hampton gestures, close to a thousand, before I even attempted doing any other type of drawing. My method of learning is inherently boring, which is why I rarely make many original pieces.
>>7863892>>7863891nice animu, anon
Just wanted to share that I made a fairly round circle on tablet for the first time, pretty proud honestly
>>7863919Thanks king. I have been studying for years and currently looking to improve and reach out to real people to get feedback and meet other artists.
>>7863915I am at work right now so I can't physically show you, but it looks based on the chest you want the light to be cast from the top right. First, anything that would hit the light needs the shadow taken away (from the viewer's POV: the left side of the left legs, top of the left arm, left hand including fingers, tops of both feet, top of right arm). Then add stronger shadows, including parts of the body that would cast shadows upon itself (for instance the head would be casting a shadow upon the (viewers POV) right shoulder, left arm would be casting a shadow across the torso, left leg would be casting a slight shadow across the right, etc.) Also remember for a general rule of thumb: shadows casted from another body part have hard edges, where as the shadows that are casted because the form of the object is no longer reaching the light has a soft edge
>>7863928>you want the light to be cast from the top rightshit I am an idiot, I meant it looks like you want it from the top left
>>7863917thanks i’ll mail order, my local art store is kinda dog shit and doesn’t carry it
>>7863869it looks cute>>7863877im retarded and beg so prob talking out of my ass, feel free to disregard anything i say. the painting is very beautiful itself and i really love that style, reminds me of hearthstone however in my serf eyes, the perspective feels somewhat lacking? the t-rex is supposed to be chasing them, but i don't feel a sense of urgency from it nor the magnitude of such a beast. if you were to give it a fish-eye lens effect i think what im saying would make more sense
>>7863930galkyd is also great for glazing. Those two products are great and non toxic. Or less toxic than regular ones.
>>7863932Thank you for your words man. I really appreciate how people have reacted to my stuff lately. Today is the first day I have ever posted here since 2021. That year somebody really butchered my shit up and I really took it badly. But I have studied a lot. Yeah I'm gonna improve what you say. It is actually very inspired in hearthstone. It is a dream of mine to do a card. This stuff has been hard and I have been pouring my heart, soul and what little money I have to learn art over the last 6 years man. Thank you for your words I really appreciate it.
Wrapped up my hs611 stylus in some athletic tape and damn it looks gross but feels amazing. 90 minutes, no cramps.
>>7863626thank you for the feedback/redline anon.
Its gonna be a while until i figure out heads it would seem.Left is eyeballed sketch and the right is moving the sketch around to fall closer to the ref then redrawn.
>>7863919i still think i messed up a lot compared to the ref, especially some of the minor changes in the form and details like the wrinkles. some of the values are fucked up toobeen reading the pen and ink book and wanted to apply what i've learned so far but i probably need to work on some simpler forms first
>>7863901>permaHow is it perma if it's just a month?
>>7862977Today’s Paul richer studies
>>7863934im glad anon! i even thought of using a hearthstone from unguro to illustrate what im trying to say better haha. your hard work paid off chief; if anything, i find it quite inspiring in how you paint and blend the colors so nicely. i really love how wet and texturized it looksi think a good example would be the king krush card. while its meant to be a more realistic-ish style than yours, it shows off the fear a t-rex should give very well with the imposing pose and perspective. unironically the mario kart world cover should make it easier to visualize what i meant by fish eye, the angle is somewhat similar to the paintingas i've said im extremely beg and learning the basics, so what im saying might be completely wrong. sorry for the word babble
>>7863901>russian talentschizo is once again lying in a weak attempt to validate his narrative because people would DARE to DRAW while he doesn't
>>7863945Mangafag?> right is moving the sketch around to fall closer to the ref then redrawn.Traced*
>>7863954>>7863948>>7863901If you dont show any improvement at all in measuring in a month then you wont improve at all. We have seen plenty of these cases here where if you dont have good eyes for measuring you are FUCKED.
>>7863952I based it on this sculpture I made man
>>7863959i kneel
>>7863958should people like that just end it ? I see myself in those without eyes. I really want to draw , but there's no point in continuing if it just causes frustration and jealousy.
>>7863963If it's causing you stress then just quit.
Doctor.. I can't fucking draw..
>>7863962Thanks man I want to base all my illustrations from now on from sculpture.
What's the point of having the same discussion over and over again?
>>7863963Focus less on drawing and just do it when it brings you joy or you feel like it, there's way more easier more rewarding hobbies you could focus more in for easy wins so your brain feels happy
why people keep saying drawing is anime harder than drawing realistic human faces
>>7863968mogs me
>>7863957>MangafagNo. >Traced*Believe what you will, but for clarification, no. It's an error check to readjust and note where i screwed up. You can easily see that parts are just moved about and resized to where they should be, not completely fabricated anew. Afterwards what remains is a very chopped and botched looking sketch because of the cutting and moving parts around - which get redrawn, and that's it.
>>7863925That's great, anon. Back before I stopped drawing because of hubris (I first picked it up when I was 11 or 12 and I stopped at 15, I mostly drew doodles and such, nothing serious) I remember meeting another anon on this very board, back when Skype was a thing. We were from the same country, and it was very fun, but then I decided to focus on studies instead of drawing, and we lost touch. That's one of my regrets in life, not actually studying art or taking it seriously, and not doing it with another likeminded artist, from the same country even. I sometimes wonder what that anon is doing these days. That's life, I guess.I'm glad I finally started to actually learn how to draw at 28, it's been worth it, but man is it an uphill battle sometimes.If you do find people outside of this board to draw with, be it for studies or just to fuck around, then do it without hesitation.>>7863946When I do studies, I set myself one goal, and I focus on that. It might be how to interpret forms, how to stylize a portion of the ref, etc. Mostly, because it's extremely important, I focus on improving my linework and shapes.I think it was Hampton that said, and I'm paraphrasing, that the drawing should resemble what you're trying to draw, not be 1:1. If I can tell it's a frog, and the goal was to draw a frog, then that's a good drawing, essentially. Accuracy can come at a later point, but it depends on what you want to accomplish. Making stuff like Proko, life drawing and such, accurate representation of the subjects are of the highest priority, but if your goal is to learn how to draw in general, practicing 1:1 accuracy is somewhat detrimental to enhancing your skills.Also, focusing on smaller projects is a good idea. I set myself a 5 minute goal for smaller studies, like Bridgman and such, 10-15 minutes for medium sized sketches, like the Loomis render study, and 30-50 minutes for a big drawing, maybe an original piece.
>>7863978Thank you kitten
>>7863973I dont think it ever brings me joy. I desperately want to be a great artist and draw things that few people rarely touch, but this path is painful and demotivating.What other hobbies would you recommend? I've had success and joy with cooking.
>>7863973Something you talentniggers dont understand is that when people complain about not having talent is that they cant measure by themselves for shit while very talented anons can copy accurately without bashing their brains in>Just use a grid bro>Just trace afterwardsCrutches and cheating are the only things that can somewhat get permabegs to make good drawings while talentedfucks like Niggu or Senseichad dont have to measure shit because it comes down to them naturally.DEATH TO TALENTNIGGERS
>>7863983>I've had success and joy with cookingCooking. But remember that every hobby comes with failure, no matter what. Maybe this is a good time to do some cooking while you take a break from drawing. Only you can decide that, though.
>>7863983Just grind more nigga. Maybe you arent as talented as senseichad and it will take you 10 times as much time to make something 10 times uglier but are you going to give up? Just keep grinding bro.
i found a brush i likedmonkey isshocked at the normal faces>>7863510i believe in you, >three stories at the same time is too much lolunderstandable XDD>>7863777why does this remindsa meof yeehaw walter white>>7863919love this
>>7863987also rawdogged this with a little sad fountain pen,lowkey like it
>>7863984> talentedfucks like Niggu or Senseichad dont have to measure shit because it comes down to them naturally.I remember him posting a timelapse and people were critizing him for measuring with lines lolYou're just making excuses not to draw.
>>7863983When learning to code from scratch, you'll feel like a bitch when you try to write "Hello world" in the console, but sooner or later it's going to escalate into some advanced stuff. That said, if you enjoy cooking, then do cooking, anon. I suck at cooking, why do you think I found myself a wife?I did it for her to complain about my cooking, obviously.
>>7863984
>>7863984>talent>copymonkeyspick one
>>7863984BWEEEEEEEEEHEHEHEEH
>>7863983Same. Idk. Drawing is hard so if you only do that for the hard bits which really is a decent amount of years you could end up just feeling bad. Cooking is nice I like doing it. Mostly I do language learning and working out. I also recommend trying to get friends since the better you feel mentally the more you'll be ok at sucking at drawing for a while>>7863984U weally think I'm a talentfuag.. what the phuck. So many kittens here today for realsies
Drew a fuck
>>7863987the guy(?) on the left is very pretty>>7863983drawing makes me want to kill myself but no one is going to draw fanart of my favorite character in the year 2026 so i use that as a motivator
They're getting even more whiny how is it possible
>>7863958Mmm he already has eyes, he just doesn't know how to use them...>>7863963just don't set time limits like a week or a month, do it if you feel comfortable or just draw for the sake of drawing, you already building knowledge, technique and tool control, then later you just need to reorganize it...>>7863963you insulting me /s, but I can assure you that I went through all of that to get to a point where I feel comfortable showing my drawings... In the other hand if you take it personally, like you admire an artist and you want to be able to do exactly what your target can, you seek power and knowledge, etc. then that will carry you over whatever problems you are meant to have...>>7863979that's pretty good anon, you are building your path, taking knowledge from here and there, adapting it to your own understanding, to finally come with a system that only you can understand, a process that's only yours...if you want to dream then do it, although no one prevents you from leaving it or replacing it with an easier task...
>>7863984>because it comes down to them naturallyI wish that was true.>>7863987>why does this remindsa meof yeehaw walter white>love thisI don't know either, but that made me laugh. And thanks for liking both of my drawings. The render study was really satisfying, too. I might revisit it to finish the rest of it tomorrow.>>7864003This is art. Brilliant.
>>7864004thanksies :3i like what you did with the apple he looks so sad <3>>7864010np :3im a huge fan of pencil style rendering. its so soft looking and i like that>>7864003art
>>7864003and here's a ref
Wew lad, drawing on a tablet is hard as hell. Man, this looks worse than when I started 1,5 months ago, kinda wild to compare to pencil drawing. But it's a start , still no clue which brush to use for what.
>>7863915
>>7863895>You unironically need to do peter han's most basic shit and drawaboxAlright, I'll give it a try.>But just the first lessonsThanks for the heads up; when should I stop Drawabox?
>>7864019Thanks for the ref. I'm away from my pc, but I had to draw it. Here's a sketch made on my phone. Drawing with a finger is still ass, tho. Props to people that can do it.>>7864024It will take a while, but you'll get a hang on it soon, believe me. Keep at it, anon, it's a cute drawing.
>>7864047>Keep at it, anon, it's a cute drawing.Thanks, anon, will do!
Please I need help, is this /beg/ or /int/ or a /beg/trap? Can I use this?>>7863310
>>7864057giga begtrapprobably the worst I've seen on this board in years
>>7863983I swear this must be unique to zoomers. You guys are so mentally weak it's insane.. The very attosecond that you get friction on something it gives you an existential fucking crisis and you start tying nooses. Just follow your nose and don't do anything to stress you out, holy shit.
>>7863984It isn't "talent" it's the fact that you were neglected as a child and didn't become a baseline human being with a 5 by 5 stat spread. Yeah bitch, you're 0s across the board, deal with it alone ffs.
i think i am starting to enjoy drawing
>>7864057>mole constellationHe's beg, but not that bad. His severe autism hinders him, though. Who the fuck measures like that? Lmao.
>>7864057Have you tried it? Is like the plumbing line just more complex because of triangles and implicit angles, if you want to copy your reference then you have to measure everything, watch "Stephen Bauman - The Blockin Course"
I forget where I leave off when studying a certain instructor / subject.villpu didn't do it for me, and krenz is too asian (I don't have the skill level for even his intro course or want to read subtittles)
just some drawings so I don't completely lose it while reorganizing my home>>7863959ehem, based>>7864024try using brushes that are similar to tools that you know from trad until you are more comfortable with the drawing software
and done
>>7864105wawawa
>decide to draw>go to stationary store to buy pencils, books>store is full of kids shopping for pencils, books ahead of school start>mfw im old trying to make up for lost timeWhy didn't I just stick with it when I was their age?>p.s. no mfw image because i still can't draw
>>7864105wawing
>>7864119Those kids belong to the new lost generation. They won't be developing any drawing skills, you belong to a past, soon to be lost golden era of human skill prowess. You still have that "spark" from the old world, those kids don't have it anymore. They will look back at old trad art and they will not believe that it was possible to do that by humans, same as that "Tartaria" meme trend, but this is real. You still can develop this skill, and keep this magic alive for a little longer.
>>7864119shouldve wen to an art supply store instead
whats the best / recommended teacher for starting out anatomy / learning to draw men
>>7864130CUTE!
>>7864151scroll back up to the top of the thread
>>7864156too many options. And I didnt understand vilppu's magical methods.
>>7864157so what if i recommend something that you once again will not like? if only there was a way to go down the list yourself until you find someone you like
I'm trying to do loomis construction but I cannot make a good jaw for the fucking life of me
>>7864105nice
>>7864158Im sorry, but I just need to know which is the best one for people who have the habit of forming chicken scratch out of shapes. I can make smooth lines but never to the ability to make them into the shapes I want.
>>7863697Commissions are scams, no two ways about it. Commissioning from a girl is just self-findom , most pathetic shit i've ever seen and i can't wait for AI to finally kill that part of the art industry, it literally fuels the hate towards people that care about art>banana on the wall.jpgHell they already are, most commissioners are using AI, so it's only a matter of time
More Paul richer
>>7864179nice stippling
FUCK
>>7864175I have commission requests on a daily basis chudie
>>7864193give me direction>>7864169
>>7864175Commissions are scams only if you price cheaply and are slow, retard
>>7864146You turn his head into a big black penis instead. thank you
>>7863300the biggest issue i see is the line going from the center of the chest inbetween the abs towards the belly button in your version. additionally you pointed the hips to the right when they actually face towards the left like the torso. You probably got confused by the leg that's crossing over and hides a part of her crotch. Hope this helps in any way
>>7864233i-is this real?Has he returned?
>>7864219 shouldn't cost any money or it's a scam Simple as.
WHAT SHOULD I STUDY
>>7864240big titty anime girls
ALL I DRAW IS FUCKING UGLY.
>>7864243NOOOOi need a master that can guide me through
>>7864240pose and gesture, face, upperbody, lower body, pose and gesture with correct anatomy, face with correct anatomy. That's the correct path, the only path. Leave this dogshit website full of discord troonies and garbage spammers, study pose and gesture with shadows and lights.
i haven't drawn anything in a whilethis captcha is fucking demonic
>>7864251>>7864254spamming garbage as usual
>>7863336>>7863348>>7863384kek, not quite what I'm going for, but still a bit useful>>7864244I don't remember making this post.
>>7864251middling as always
>>7864257Those are some classy fucking eyes but they are too far apart.You cant draw them realistic and keep the anime eye separation.
>>7864175Two more weeks
>>7864261It's garbage because it's spam. Effortless trash made with the sole purpose of attention whoring, it has nothing to do with the quality of the drawing itself (although it's pretty fucking bad too)
>>7864251if only you knew how bad things really are>try to make new thread because almost at image limit>new threads need more captcha tasks like 3-4 instead of 1>ok new thread go>haha lmao you cannot create new threads from this ip range>fine email verify from one of my spoofs>are you human??>ok after ddos prevention captcha here is a second captcha so you can actually input your email, with another 4 tasks>email finally verified>time to post new thread right?>...thread captcha expired
>>7864261I'm not welcome there anymore, so if I'm hated in both places I may as well stay here.>>7864262thanks for the feedback
>>7864264i can only put effort into drawings of harry du bois so you're probably right >>7864265we live in hell>>7864261nice to see you paige
>>7864266No you, you are ok
drawing a random girl from instagram.
also trying so hard to make functional characters with unusually thick markers. Not this anon though >>7863181
>>7864185Thanks
>>7864259you look like oro from street fighter?
big line valkyrie >>7864282
quick Frieren study
>>7864317I like the lips and nose. If only you could draw cute eyes...
>>7864317The eyes are terrifying
>>7864318>>7864321I like to draw eyes that way, I won't be changing that any time soon.
>>7864328who asked? They look like s hit.
>>7864301So that must mean you self insert as the rapist no the raped in your shota guro
>gay shota guro incest rape fag disrespecting doll for being a fellow pedosexualerm...??
>>7864339the twink he draws doesnt look like a shota at all
>>7864317You like children
i didnt post enough monkey tit>>7864259for somereason i really likehis face here
>>7864251cute :3
>>7864335feel free to redline them
Werewolf status?
>>7864251My queen, I love how full your breasts are getting. When I have the money, I’ll pay for your health plan
>>7864400She looks like she fucks human men
I fucked up the perspective, wasn't able to simplify the hair in a way that looks convincingly like hair, or any of my forms really, my value range is scuffed and doesn't convey the feeling I wanted, the colors I chose are like a cupcake with sprinkles brutefully tossed on top rather than thoughtfully chosen to further the mood I intended, the focal point only serves as an anchor for the fucked up forms of the face, the hands look to small, the ellipses of the camera are not in perspective and fucked up. Overall, shit study with no clear intention and wasted effort that just screams at me that I need to practice my draftsmanship.
>>7864415oh and looking at it now, my haphazard usage of textured brushes that don't serve as a means of guiding the eye, lack of lost edges and lack of tighter attention to detail around focal points meaning the eye has nothing to play around with. Like being taken on a tour around an empty museum.
>>7864238Ok you don't actually draw get lost
>>7863491I'm finishing in my pants right now. Where can we masturbate to more of your work?
>>7864411It's true>>78644254chan.org
>>7864415I like the palette choice
>>7864426HOLY BASED
>>7864425https://x.com/torulen/media
>>7864426talentedrat progress is crazy...
>>7863510PAGE 3 DONE! Page 2 had some typos so I fixed them here >>>/i/825788 I think that I'll focus on this one since I already have the whole thing written with the ending. I didn't calculated the color factor, it really adds up to the time element. Crucial element lol. I'll try to speed up this one.>>7863987>i believe in you, THANK YOU! That's what I need to motivate me to finish this one as soon as possible! xDBeautiful faces! The brush seems to be nice for sketching>>7863736>it's deeply inspired by a reference of him, and a couple of other noir detectives. And lovely full color page, too. Looks brilliant.I knew it! lol,, And thank you so much!!!>>7863585>>7863626These are incredible, saved!>>7863877Crazy stuff anon! I don't know what kind of help you will get here form all places xD lol.. But obviously your are on a path to certain success. I could say that the color and value still doesn't portray a full 3D visual effect. Specially in the foreground, but it's a VERY SUBTLE matter of color and value management. Maybe taking a look at this guy will give you some cues on thathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LhcNbFMkTwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwLQ0cDb4cEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GkHyEXQktAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFoKmX0LfCshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BGaMO5SiBAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nINus0lYQjohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPMXYHVXYJo>>7864251I always love to see you back deer>>7864279I love this beautiful little trad piece, Saved.
Is the arm too short on this guy? It feels wrong but I can't fully grasp what it is that's making it look off. Showed it to someone else and she said it's way too short; I see it, but it doesn't look TOO short to me just maybe an extra hand's length. Please help and thank you.
>>7864438They're called God Creators now.
>>7864445he can't even jerk off properly...
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>7864450Lmao yeah, it's too short. But how much longer should it be? I feel like I often get the scaling of these things wrong, but it's better than it was before practice at least
>>7863928How do i do that?
>>7864453wITH talent
I like this artstyle but I amm too retarded to draw.I tried to copy it and it came out wrong. I am talentless.
>>7864458seeing better art and artists makes me feel angerAnd a desire to choke
>>7864463this would look good in a museum
>>7864465>this would look good in a museumMb if I knew how to paint traditionally. Otherwise...
Anyone draw on paper and scan + color it digitally? Any tips on cleaning up/refining the line without reworking it completely digitally? I usually color everything first then paint the line over it last but it takes way too much time. Any tips?
no thread challenges?
>>7864468You want clean lines? Hard brush is the only way, or you can just use eraser to clean some noticable imperfections. You can work with levels to increase visibility. better drawing lines and better scanner can help too I guess.
>>7864456I don't have any D:
water rendering is pretty simple until you have to focus on it and found out how is just pure specular and transparence and trying to make it work on a stylized front.
studies
why drawing anime is harder than drawing realistic humans?
reffed from the other other thread. I have to grit my teeth not to turn line weight off again. it's uncomfortable>>7863127in both cases, the sights look off. they don't sit on top of the guns. did you ref these?>>7863300weirdly appealing to me, more than the ref. something about the tilt of her head>>7863626geometry/perspective is off, her chest and tits in particular.
>>7864518where did you get your ref from?
>>7864533hampton and sketchfab
>>7864534hampton is goated for hatching volume onto his anatomy refs
I'm lazy and I wish I wasn't
>>7864548draw daisy plz
>>7864552in what way
>>7864553sporty daisy in her mario strikers getup. with a focus on legs since you're studying them
>>7864555sorry got preoccupied drawing this bullshit and now i gota go wageslave, i regret it though i shouldve done your request instead
>>7864574you're my number one I'm happy either way
Been enjoying my meager Hampton gains, probably more I can take from the book but I need to stop durdling. What's the next thing I need?
>>7864586Is this from his figure drawing book?
>>7864587No I'm using what I learned on random references. That one is from a Japanese sports book I grabbed from a refpack thread a few months ago. Maybe he has other work somewhere but Hampton is all business in his book.
>>7864586was the huge cock on the right really necessary?
>>7864595The ref is the ref man
>>7864589Oh no I meant which hampton book you were learning from. I think he had a few different ones
>>7864616Oh my bad, yeah his one book "Figure Drawing: Design and Invention" is the one that I started out with. I think he came out with a gesture specific book lately, I haven't read it, but I would imagine it's similar quality. He does say in the book I read, that he really wants to write a gesture book, or at least explain it further than what he could then and there.
>>7864623I see, thanks anon. Might give it a try, might be a bit too advanced but we'll see
>>7864626It took a few reads for it to click with me, I will be honest. When I knew I was learning was when I was picking up on smaller lines that indicated something was "wedged" into the main human bean-shape that comes from a torso-pelvic silhouette. Mind the contour lines and I think you'll get it.
>>7864504Very cute
as a beg should i focus on drawing the head more or the body?
>>7864648The body. The head is easy.
>>7864653i bealeve u
>>7864468Post the full pic pussy
I'm bored, someone, draw something for fucks sake
>>7862977I should have finished this a long time ago. Now it's become just a mess. Serious question: When is it best to give up and move on to the next drawing?
>>7864703For what? No one is giving me (you)s
>>7864705When it's fucked beyond repair and would take too long to correct,When you realize the general idea/composition was badWhen you've learned what you wanted to learn from that drawing and don't really care about the end resultWhen you've fully rendered everything and all you're doing are tiny tweaks at some point it's best to just say fuck it good enough and move on
>>7864711yeah. at least the first two points apply here and I do hope, that I've learned something here. thanks.
>>7864706We need more mass repliers asap
>>7864415Nice one anon, can you share the ref?
>>7864703Last time I did, I got shit on.
>>7864703Post something and I'll draw it.
>>7864705I love the way you draw Dwarves. Do you have a blog?
is redrawing images/screenshots with a time limit a good exercise?
>>7863901Kill yourself.
robo death wip
>>7864717Mass replies don't feel genuine
>>7864528sure anon, can you post a redline with the corrections? I would appreciate it...>>7864703post your challenge and I will draw it
>>7864729It's called copying, and yes, it is.
>>7864736>>7864724>>7864483THREAD CHALLENGE:This fucking pose, I can't ever get the head and face right. It always seem like her neck is broken like the possessed bitch from the exorcist movie.
>>7864250Honestly, this is some good advice, ngl.>>7864251Nice to see your stuff again. It looks great.>>7864415This is fantastic, anon. I think you're a little hard on yourself.>>7864504This is so damn cute, I love it.>>7864549I get that. Great drawing, too.>>7864648I'd focus on both.>>7864705For me at least, it depends on what my goal was with the drawing. As with this one, I continued working on this study for roughly another 30 minutes, but at a certain point I'm not learning much other than to do three value rendering plus how to translate textures with a pencil. It fun, but I want to move onto other stuff, too. For me, half the fun is making a massive amount of drawings and seeing it all in a huge collage to track my progress. Spending too much time on simple studies will hinder that goal. I think your piece is brilliant, and you should definitely finish it, but if you're burned out on it, maybe work on something smaller? There's no rush, unless it's for a portfolio, and it needs to be finished quickly.>>7864732Wicked cool, anon.
>>7864745Probably something like this.
Is it normal being more productive while drawing porn?
>>7864528looks good but why switch from your mono-size brush style?
tried adding in shadow to the 2nd pic... she looks like got burned.....will appreciate any advice and what to practice
>>7864754Your head is at a profile view whereas the ref has the head turned slightly toward the viewer. Try to think about the placement of the vertical centerline and keep in mind there will be a hint of her cheek peaking out on the lefthand side which will change the shape of how you drew the head
>>7864767Speaking from experience; learning to render and learning to draw are two different things. I'd focus on enhancing drawing skills firstly, otherwise you risk splitting your focus on too many things at once. that's just my two cents.
>>7864776There's no chance this guy has hands that tiny
trying out comics again
>>7864778Are you using a multicolored brush? I like the effect
From the man that brought you babbies first birds comes babbies first moth, I also shouldn't have picked one with "fur" (ref coming next) since I have no clue how to draw that.
>>7864092>try using brushes that are similar to tools that you know from trad until you are more comfortable with the drawing softwarethanks for the advice, I'll try but the pencil brushes don't really look any better for me haha
>>7864783the moth in question (wish I had colors)
>>7864778Nope. I did the lines in black, added the shading, then painted some quick colors on a separate layer, moved it to the top, and set it as an overlay. Then I render the whole thing out as a new layer, blur it a bit, and overlay that as well. I like the contrast it provides but it can muck up some of the smaller details (like the cat in the bottom panel honestly).
>>7864777Unless you're Trump, then you'd be correct, my man. That was on purpose because I just wanted to make a fun drawing 5-10 minute drawing. I know how to do proportions, though in this instance, I just didn't care, honestly.
>>7864788>>7864781I'm an idiot and can't post properly
>>7864745for me, setting the landmark of the trapezius helps with the pose
>>7864789I get that the quality of a sketch can be dictated by how long you spend on it, but your justification sounds like insecurity to me. You intentionally went into that sketch to draw disproportionate hands? No you didn't.
>>7864793Okay? I don't care, though. I'm already onto the next one. It's just a drawing, anon. You're taking it a little too seriously, lmao. Don't you like to draw?
>>7864745This anon >>7864792 beat me to it, lol.Yeah, the traps are the mechanical and physical limits of how your head will move and look on that pose.
>>7864794You drew tiny hands, I've done it too and I'm sure I'll do it in the future. Take accountability for your mistakes instead of coping and getting hissy. Your reputation will be fine.
>>7864721he won't post the ref for his traced drawing lmao
>>7864805>>7864721literally just check the catalog >>7860520>tracetypical nodraw cope
>>7864745this turned out fucking ugly and full of mistakes but at least i triedi really need to stop procastinating figure
making a ref sheet for a character i'll be using in an rpg with some friends, a little peek at her. i'm using yotti pen
>>7864803>I've done it too and I'm sure I'll do it in the future.Kek. I know it's not proportionally correct, what are you even talking about? I think you're projecting a bit there, bud. I am not you.
>>7864819You're so fixated on defending your "intentional" mistake that you're missing my actual critique that you have an inflated ego. The russian talentschizo gassed you up good.
can't even draw a jar
>>7864815Where can we masturbate to more of your work?
>>7864808See? One accusation and you got me the image in 5 minutes.
>>7864815The yotti pen, the one from CSP? I've been meaning to try out some new software. How do you like it? It's a great drawing, anon.>>7864822Okay. I just like to draw, anon. I hope you do too.>>7864823I think you're doing great. Jars are very art, especially because of the curves.
nodraws are getting real uppity for no drawings being posted
>>7864832on my newgrounds theres some nsfw stuff>>7864834its very good for a rough pen, really depends on your artstyle desu. I can use softer and rougher pens when drawing, so i'm having a good time with it.
>>7864832sorry was meant to tag >>7864830nnot you
Man, I don't have a clue on how to blend or render folds. Did I at least get the proportions right?
I was thinking about self-taught artists. How do they actually learn? Do they draw things a thousand times from references, like today I'll draw a house, tomorrow a cow, the day after tomorrow a guy with a beard, etc., until they reach the point where they can start drawing things without references?Is that how it works?
>>7864871Man, this is beautiful. I don't think I can give any advice, but it looks great.
any suggestions on making her look more unique?
>>7864874Wow, I honestly did not expect a positive comment, Ty. I've been trying to do more realistic studies lately but it's clear i'm struggling with values (is that even the correct term?) and shading
>>7864885your works are very nice. keep struggling with whatever you are, because it's clearly taking you to new heights
>>7864885incredible
>>7864745
>>7864891sorry anon, that's why i'm asking for suggestions! thanks!
>>7864745i love tomboys
>>7864845post blog then
>>7864916Post cock then
>>7864790We're all idiots sometimes, anon. That's what makes us human. It's a great comic. Is it part of a bigger series, or is it just a smaller one-off?>>7864792>>7864801>>7864899These are brilliant. Love them.>>7864811I think you're too harsh on yourself. I like it a lot.>>7864837Interesting. I mix and match a lot of the time, I try not to stick to one artstyle over another, so trying out new brushes is always a treat. I'm definitely going to check it out.>>7864871>>7864885Absolutely stunning! Keep posting this top tier shit, anon. It's brilliant.>>7864882Maybe add some more details to the clothing, while keeping the jacket the same? It might help guide the view, like with the sword.>>7864911Don't we all?
>>7864727thanks. dwarves are fun to draw, bc you don't need to make them look pretty. I don't have a blog though, sorry. Absolutely fed up with social media.>>7864747thank you. I will leave it be for now, but might come back to it. I cut out this character though and I am reusing him for this.Great drawing btw
>>7864852this is really cool, very nice greebling and sense of volume
>>7864790>>7864921Thanks! It's a whole story I've been wanting to mostly get faster at drawing before seriously attempting. I've done tons of art for it (and some music videos), but I'm slowly getting more confident in doing it as a full comic.
>>7864923>greeblingnot the op but what's that?
>>7864931Brilliant, anon. Awesome idea to do a big project. Know this, some random dude elsewhere in the world is rooting for you. Keep being ambitious.>>7864932It's a term for mechanical details, but for the sake of details. A bit like how star wars ships and such from the old movies have these intricate details on everything. It's a way to make it more interesting to look at, and if done correctly (like with the drawing in question) looks great.
>>7864932Greebling is the practice of adding small, superficial details (called "greebles" or "nurnies") to the surface of a model, prop, or digital creation to make it appear more complex, functional, and realistic, especially in science fiction
>>7864528Perfection! Appeal for the Appeal God!>>7864705When the symbol fulfill its purpose to visually deliver the message. In example, that dwarf in the back struggling to climb, he's already perfect, you can just use that de-saturated light purple monochrome rendering to leave him just like that.>>7864732Cool, it reminds me to robot carnival:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7Tilh2B5EQ>>7864747Can't get enough or your sketches!>>7864885Very aesthetically pleasing style!>>7864899>>7864952Nice lines! I'm saving this one too!>>7864921>These are brilliant. Love them.Thank you so much!!!>>7864778Always love to see people doing stories here!
>>7864440yeah its a great brush, feels really soft to use <3and thanskies :3>>7864963slorp :3 noice>>7864952amazing
>>7864822PYW
>>7864983Abandon the way you render noses and the philtrum asap
>>7864952Nice!
>>7864986how should I do it instead? I want to develop a style based on BJ dolls where the nose a philtrum are very prominent
>>7864999oh, people were literal when they named you dollfag
>>7864440ahh thank you peril! I've been in disco Elysium fixation hell and have been writing instead of drawing and such! i need to catch up on your new comic! >>7864747wonderful art! the praise means a lot from you, thank you!
an attempt was made. arting is hard>>7865020damn, aren't you the asgore artist? this is really good.
>>7865028I've drawn asgore before yes! thank you! awesome study
>>7864440monitoringI am always excited to click the /beg/ thread and see what's next in Peril's comics.>he reads for the plot
>>7864999Have you tried looking for artists who already figured it out?
>>7864999i recommend you to understand the planes of her face, she is not very different from ai slop and some well established styles... remember you must resolve volumen before you enter shading phase or you are going to be resolving volumen in a more complex phase...
no more thread challenges? i feel lucky today...
Finally finished with the damn fish. Gonna finish the big skull and then the fish skull
>>7864745I tried a more realistic approach and another very stylized one
>>7865051Getting the full werewolf treatment right here, god please end my suffering already
>>7865051Pretty good
>>7865050Hatching is exquisite, got any tips?
>mass replying spam
sad monkewhat disco elyseum does to a mf>>7865050holy shit, cool>>7865036cool elf being
>>7864745ran out of time for now but wip anyway, I want to make her a demon
>>7864754>>7864745>>7864792>>7864921What's the point in killing /begs/ progress with garbage references, zoomers are already stupid as fuck. ??????????
>>7865102Why did you wait eight fucking hours to post this?You had an entire hour to post a better reference before he did, but chose not too.
>>7865020not a pic of screen version idk if ill come back to this eventually
>>7865107I just arrived. Good morning, please do the needful.
another study. still don't like how any brush feels in Krita. Even with tweaking.when you anons draw, do you have your reference on the same monitor? or do you use a different device / monitor?
>>7865114Different monitor, but that's because I'm an iPadfag and tradfag
>>7865102>no work postedopinion discardedyou are welcome to use the other, worse challenge: >>7863497
>>7865117I have my own god tier gestures and poses, not drawing gooner facebook BR garbage.
>>7865118Hmm, if you're not going to post any of those top-notch images for a thread challenge, what are you complaining about? You don't even have a username to track your contributions and work. I don't know what the point is of you being here then.
>>7865066Thank you. I would say above all else to gather a strong understanding of line confidence and form, which is all it takes really. The pen and ink workbook by Alphonso Dunn is great for this. Try to do something like this every day or at least a lot. Just practice your lines consistently, big and small, and it’ll become a cakewalk. >>7865095Thanks anon. I still have so much to add too
>>7865114>Studying that slopperFucker made his own Sora and only generates his own shit now. Fucking disgrace.
>>7865123Im here to help or kill the site and be angry while doing so, also punching down, problem?
>>7865123>thread challenge>>7863497
>>7865123>>7865129>WHY ARE YO NOT ATTENTION WHORINGKill yourself fag. There is no reason to use a name or a trip. Your ego is nothing, you are dogshit and your drawings are doghsit, saves us the...LE CRINGE of having a name attached to the garbage.
>>7865124>>7865110>>7865100>>7865095>already spamming low effort garbage What an incredible way to shit on a normal thread. Why post your low effort garbage? seriously fuck off, not only it's bad it's also disgusting.>OMG LE CHIMICHANGE SAGGY TITS XDDo you really think it's quirky or unique? Why are you spamming the thread every single fucking day multiple times.
>>7865131You're cringe.
>>7865134tell me more about wukongs saggy tits> Why are you spamming the thread every single fucking day multiple times.knowing that it makes you miserable makes me hard
>>7865137>bikecuck energy postThis is what i live for, low effort delusional posting. I am THE SUN
>>7865134You have schizophrenia nigga
>>7865142I'm afraid i don't have cats, nor blue hair, nor piercings, nor cats hearing what i say behind the walls.I do have alcohol and the exquisite acquired taste of punching left brained retards and faggots before life beats me (hueue) to it. Ahead of the curve lets fucking go
>>7865134There's way more low effort drawings in this thread, you're just signalling out the female posters. Tacotroon detected.
>>7865139here, a titlove you. sweet anon.you are my unwulling dommy mommy
>>7865131>>7865134What's your TOP 3 most hated namefags in this board?
>>7865134I was just giving that person hatching advice, relax. It’s what the thread is for.
>>7865145You are mixing low effort with /beg/. Can't blame you can i? You have no critical thinking, i have to handle you as if you were a newborn child or you will break like a crystal right? dumbfuck?
>>7865148PBS
>>7865149they cant relax, dont bother
>>7865144you make me want to post even lower schizo garbage to make you suffer in specific. it bothers you on such a personal scale that it's gratifying>>7865137>>7865146based and kino saggy wukongposter
>>7865153I don't hate low /beg/ drawings. Not sure what gave you that idea. I hate attention whoring spammers like me right now except i don't spam that. See, that's called self awareness, requires critical thinking, SKIBIDITOILET CHALLENGE IMPOSSIBLE
>>7865153based deerfren,<3>>7865144more tit
>>7865156quit whining, you're even more annoying
>>7865156bitch I wasn't even attention whoring this time lmao, just sharing my beg ass drawings. the scrappy trad drawing? sure, that's posting just to post. the squirrel and the challenge weren't that you dumb faggot lmao, I'm just beg and incomplete is as far as I know how to get rn. Stop being a whiny faggot and go draw.
>>7865151Nobody hates permaGODschizo
>>7865159okey
>>7865159I like his whining, it is fun.
they might say that its whiningbut no one says that i'm wrong.Curious!
>>7865162But himself.
>>7865165>saggy tits are disgusting You have never had sex. Opinion discarded.
>>7865173>small ugly ass sad looking saggin tits>goodSad! Try fucking something that's not an elephant.
>>7865165bc people know its futile to even argue with you at this point, and the ones that do only see it as a fun pastimeyou on the other hand, are still sweating over simple sketches or soulful drawings while not even bothering to pick up the pen and draw yourself.>>7865173saggy tits are adorable
>>7865178this drwaing speaks volumes
>>7865179the only volume is my genitals getting bigger
>>7865176 this sounds like a personal L. Saggy tits are kino and based and visually interesting, and also inevitable if you actually have sex. big saggy tits that go to the side are the best>>7865178they are. you get me monka>>7865174so much soul
>>7865186Its not my fault you have shit taste and can't embrace the beauty of funky weird tits because you're a faggot, that's up to you broskiI could post actual shit of obese saggy fags if you want, I have a whole archive If it pisses you off personally I'll do it just for the megaluls
>>7865186FOR YOU <3>>7865183truly cultured <3>just shat these out diarrhea machine gun stylepoetry
>>7865188 bikecuck leftard brain energy >im winning cause i fuck pigs
Doodling random shit. Found a doujin artist who sketches so fucking good and so easily. MAKES ME WANT TO DIE.
Drooping tits, stretch marks, loose skin...they are all horrid and disgusting
>>7865127wow, he does? i hope it's a third party because that's really disappointing if true do you have any other chunky loli artists to study?
>>7865200eheheh :3>>7865194here
>>7865197this is the kind of saggy/drooping tits i like
>>7865214kek
>>7865204you inspired me. i channeled my inner self. a masterpiece
>>7865217kino <333
>>7865217lmao, no-draw crabbo in shambles rn
>>7865220I'm lining it rn for the sake of godliness. thank you. I'm glad that doujin I showed you was such inspo. harry lovers everywhere rejoice
>>7865225hells yeah :DDshow me when its done okay <3harry be praised
>>7865228>>7865220uh oh... our big mad annoyed anon won't like this...
>>7865217is that pussy or just small? based as hell anyway
i wish i could filter out wukonganon's vomit-inducing """drawings"""
>>7865232Pussy! thank you! >>7865228i probably gotta stop for the night but letting myself be myself in all of my begness was like a high. thank you . I'll try to "finish" this and fix it tomorrow
>>7864832are you just samefagging or is someone else acting like they made my slop? It isn't traced, otherwise my main post crit wouldn't be the glaring perspective issues.
>>7865197This is very BWEH
>>7865243you're replying to the thread's nodraw schizo that's been spamming jaks so yes.
>>7862977First time drawing on a tablet. I got a huion inspiroy H640P which was very cheap and shit, but it's fun so far. What should I work on /beg/?
>>7865251>what should I work onThe ugliest Loomis head you can imagine
>>7865251SOVL and based Screenless pilled.
>>7864400>>7864426I dunno if I'll draw more of her but I think I'm closing in on a design with the right one
>>7865197Urabe's tits don't look like that...
>>7864792
>>7865277Fucking hell you are so good it makes me want to kms. Blog?
>>7865283Would you believe me if I told you, people don't have that sized eyes either?
Uh oh paigey meltie.
I haven't been able to finish anything lately...
>>7865297Draw microbikini cunnies.
>>7865298>>7865297@Grok, put her in a dental floss bikini? Can you add some white slime too?Thanks.
>>7865306Soul ...SOUL!!
>>7865298>>7865305I'm not doing that sorry
>>7865330Are you one of those anti-nsfw loonies?
>>7865331I'm just not interested in drawing that. Not appealing personally
>>7865334SKMZ?
>>7865339ref
>>7865338Not sure what that means
>>7865343Sukumizu
Starting to believe that anime is crippling my fundies because common anime faces are flat.
Did lesson 1F/6 of Keys to Drawing: Draw a Mechanical Object.So I went outside and drew my car's engine for a while.I don't know, it feels like I'm actually getting 'it' instead of just of just copy drawings.It's not a great drawing, but it feels like I'm actually learning and getting better, it's a great feeling.
>>7865355Those are cute. I think swimsuits are more interesting with curvier characters though.
Aside from anatomy what are your thoughts on this? I'm new to digital art so I'm looking for advice too o7
>>7865359Hell yea,anon.
I'm really happy with this
>>7865277great
>>7865386Very nice
Got tired of being bad at drawing the chest and obsessively grinded it for the past 4 hours. I’m tapped out good ight yall
>>7865242>i probably gotta stop for the night but letting myself be myself in all of my begness was like a high. thank younp :3its been the most fun i had in a while here so thank you too
How do make the faces more soulful?>>7865370Forget about anatomy you need better proportions and line quality
>>7865411A lovely young pooner at the bottom sketch I see
>>7865460>you need better proportions and line qualityIronic
I've been doing a fair bit of BrokenDraw's drawing exercises. Only thing is, I'm not sure if I should spend more time improving my 2D observational and line control abilities before moving onward to breaking things down into 3D.Thoughts?
>>7865469I'd do some line confidence exercises for ~30 minutes before doing the rest of your drawing. Your lines are pretty shaky, and you don't really want to build/reinforce bad habits with muscle memory. It's a skill that tends to improve pretty rapidly with drilling. Observational drawing is fine to grind if you want, but I think you can take or leave that, since it's something you'll gradually improve at over time naturally.
>>7865468Yeah, both of use can you more practice in both departments
frank cho study before work, shit needs work
>>7865460Noted! thanks fren
>>7844983>banned for posting loliconshe's clearly a petit hag, not a lolifiles.catbox.moe/uh7a47.png>>7865039I haven't found many. >>7865042thanks for the feedback, will do that
what do you think anons
>>7865531thats really cute, very nice textures
>>7865124i'm also trying to work through this book based off of your recommendation i thinktrying to do at least 1 or 2 pages a daypretty rough at it especially hard trying to work on the right side of the left-handed pages because of the binding
>>7865531Looks amazing
>>7863945The grind continues. Switched to trying to ink and hatch a bit too to practice those as well.
Is it really that vital to draw from the shoulder? I'm trying it now, and it looks like absolute garbage.
>>7865289Is this a pasta or is this just a hilariously vain attempt at crabbing
mixing vilppu with bridgman so i don't get bored
>>7865553It's total bullshit. It works for certain things like throwing big lines on a big piece of paper with a graphite pencil, charcoal stick or brush.Most people here are working on a small surface, doing digital work, moving your whole body around as if you're painting the fucking Sistine Chapel is retarded and counterproductive. You will tire yourself needlessly, if you're drawing all day you need to save your stamina, and minimize the strain in your hands and arms. Just sketch slightly, search for shapes with subtle lines. You can make a mess, it doesn't matter, as long as you keep the eyes on the ball, looking for that figure shape, or whatever.
>>7865570So basically, save it for the broader strokes, if anyway?
>>7865572*if anything?
>>7865534>>7865540Thanks anons, it came to me while I was practicing with the sphere on the right and got bored lol
>>7865572>>7865573Yeah, I mean, If I'm standing in front of an easel with an A3 sheet of paper, I HAVE to use the shoulder thing to make such lengthy and controlled lines. But on an A4 or smaller surface? I don't see the practicality of it. Sounds more like a gimmick, like the Salt Bae guy doing that elbow bullshit.
How long do you keep a memory drawing in rotation? That is, how long do you keep coming back to it to see how much you remember
>>7865579I picked this up from a Drawabox, to be honest. I guess there has to be something there, but I agree, it sounds excessive for doing something like shading.
I'm gonna try again later today, but ngl, I'm getting filtered by Fun With a Pencil.
>>7865584Same here, anon. Same here.
>>7865583I don't think the shoulder thing is complete bullshit. If I'm drawing a straight line or a curve of any non-trivial length, I draw it from the shoulder. I still use a lot of wrist for short lines/curves, but I think always drawing from the shoulder is less wrong then always drawing from the wrist.
sneed
I'd like some advice on how to blend better with waterpaint, some of my works like picrel get a bit patchy and some decorations because of this looks a bit awkward or not meant to be there
Maybe I should go back to draw with Binary pen.>>7865553You should use what your drawing actually requires. For most of the drawing, you're going to probably be using the elbow the most. Wrist for small details and shoulder for longer lines are going to be more situational.
>>7865632Don't blend water colour once it has dried, do it while it's wet. You can reactive the paitn and blend it but it won't turn out as good or as smooth of a transition.Your paint on your brush and the paint on your paper has to be the same wetness. If your brush is wetter you get the blooming effect where all the pigment stays on the edge of your streak
>>7865666>this comment>those lines
The grind continues. I'm trying to focus more on the forms and quickly capturing the proportions to speed myself up, since otherwise it will take ages to work through this book.
Felt like drawing something edgier today.
>>7865289>>7865568Drawing a more feminine Bridget is where the queer who draws little boys getting raped and murdered draws the line.
>>7865678Thanks I appreciate that I'll keep that in mind since I really want to work with waterpaint more and the pastel 'blooming' effects. Im interested in digital stuff too (I was a lineart fanatic when I was yoinger) but how would you guys go with watercolor (dont know why i called it 'waterpaint') on say paint tool sai or clip studio? I am thinking about getting back on these programs
Samefag but Im extremely tired and I mainly lurk here rather than post sorry for being a tard im gonna go take a break kek
>>7865680The lines are mine and I do whatever the fuck I want with them, anon.
tried drawing my fable 2 characterit looks like deviantart naruto edgeslop but i like it a littlei hope i managed to paint the roses ok. they were really tricky to get rightthat hand angle was vexing the fuck out of me too. i think it brings the whole thing down but whatever im just glad i finished one drawing this month
>draw gesture>looks and felt cool>try to put some anatomy or structure on top of it >impossible i told myself i'm going to finish this one thing at least i'll lay down flat colors but jesus it's painful
>>7865694Don't you think it's time to attempt something more ambitious than anatomy/construction studies?
>>7865686you'd expect that a troon would side with the 'bridget is a girl' peopleweird
>>7865161>Stop being a whiny faggot and go drawThat would require them to actually do something and put in some effort, which is a big ask for nodraws.
>>7863979must be difficult to be called by the name of the person you despise..
>>7865714including petting them like they were your pet rock and then trying to tell people to draw from the wrist, this fucking place I stg
God damn it, as soon as that fucking child molester starts posting his child rape drawings these threads always go to shit. You know who you fucking are, please another fucking breakdown and stay gone permanently.
how do i draw an elipse inside an object? without the elipse overlapping the object
>>7865772There's two people here that can fit in that category. Can you narrow it down to if they're gay or straight?
>>7865779The two are ironically, a troon and a poon so make up your own mind if they're gay or straight. Either way they exclusively draw child sexual assault and I've forwarded their posts to ic3 multiple times.
I took a week long break from drawing and I feel like all the progress and momentum I had is gone. Damn.
>>7865568>Male>FemininityLmao nigga, these fucking trannies it's always the funniest shit ever
>>7865787warmup with a bunch 30 sec, 1 minute, 2 minute and 5 minute gestures and you will be back
>>7865801why drawing anime heads eyes hairs and the fucking strange head shape so hard
>>7865803just construct a bunch of anime heads using a reference dumbass
>>7865768>trying to tell people to draw from the wristDid I say it though?
>>7865775What are you trying to draw? Draw a box first usually
>>7865811>using the elbow the most. Wrist
>>7865820I don't even know how to draw a box. I'm drawing circles, elipses , spheres and right now, cylinders, but i'm struggling with them all
>>7865817>don't draw "little boys"You objectively draw children being raped and always default to the fucking "1,000 year old dragon" defense. Straight to the FBI, fuck you pedophile. To anyone else, gatekeep your fucking hobbies from these "people."
>>7865824Read, human.
>>7865825Pyw
>>7865835You wish. And I forward it to your state police too. As soon as you slip enough PII it'll go to City and County, too. Death to all chickenhawks.
weird head study>>7865261>>7864251cjute>>7864295oroGODs
>>7865832Here
Critique please
>>7865870The ref I used
>>7863957no thats def not mangaka anon>>7865566nice, i like the upper left
Last time I get to draw
>>7865873Can you take Paige with you?
>>7865890yeah man hair is hardi need to study hair
>>7865846Try to use this as a guide. Also make your lines more clear and confident
what am i doing wrong
>>7865907I fuck with your style, but it’s very flat. Learn how to draw the features with form. Maybe try Loomis
>>7865914Which of his books is this?
People laugh at me
Enough. If the scum mock me, I'll mock the scum
why the above face is so ugly? it's because i copies the contours?
>>7865764Why would I despise someone I don't know?
THE CUM
>>7865915Figure drawing for all it’s worth
wanna die
>>7865984neat
>>7865984>>7866001>>7865955cute
what a mess
>>7866019Wawa- wait
>>7866026me horni me draw wierd porni
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>7866030BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHH
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>7866029Are you an alkie?
>>7866036I got panic attacks when I'm drunk so no
>>7866040Arent you polish?
>>7866041High resistance is different thing haha
>>7865553as a begga i think when people read "draw from shouler" they take it too literally and directly stress the shoulder muscles lolfrom what i understand the idea is have your whole arm free for comfy drawingwhen writing we plant our hand on the paper allowing only fingers move for accurate legible writing thats not comfy for drawingfor certain curves and lines your wrist curves too much fingers have no reach direction is wrong you have to extend them and so on but then you realize that you can move your whole arm and boom you can now draw all the lines and curves cleanly and comfortably of any direction and length
struedies
I'm gonna copy you niggas styles and there is nothing you can do to stop it
Seeing arbiterwolf is like seeing myself in a mirror. Nothing but filthy fucking permabeg faceblind garbage. The way he just randomly scribbles shit without never comprehending the way the face is built.I am too dull to cry at this point
>>7866107bro do you do anything besides crying like a bitch all day
>>7866110A lot.I WANT TO STOP BEING PERMABEG
>>7866113Well that's easy, just apply yourself to the study of the arts. The hard part is to go beyond the intermediate and find your own voice.
>>7866107at least he's drawing. are you? he's also putting his face out there, he's the most courageous man to walk this earth, while all you do is spam in a chinese basketweaving forum not pyw'ing.
I cannot, for the life me, even force myself to finish drawabox, it is so bad. Any other recommendations for learning how to draw shapes in 3d from memory? I try to absorb DAB's lessons and do the homework but it is so verbose and unengaging that it feels like busywork and I'm not getting anything from it
Seaport Hime doodle
>>7866219>He actually tried drawaboxWe got another one boys!
>>7866223>He actually tried drawaboxyou didn't?
>>7866225Of course I did. I was told it was the best way to learn to draw (by someone who no doubt never did it themselves) and gave up on learning to draw because I thought it wasn't for me after hours of monotonous bullshitNow I'm a Loomis Chad and actually learning
How does one into morpho
>>7865828>and always default to the fucking "1,000 year old dragon" defenseHe's never even remotely said anything similar to that tho?
>>7866244more paul richer?
>>7866248Nah these are from this pic . Richer draws women with more elegance
>>7866115>>7866149Can I join in?>>7866104NNNNNNICE! saved...>>7866019Beautiful ref pose, s..saved>>7865872Beautiful sketches! That brush is working great for you Monka!>>7865920Ain't nothing wrong here, you're really good, great faces>>7865036Thank you so much anon! Next thread I'll post three pages in a row probably, I need to get this story finished>>7865020Thank you my Deer!!! My stuff is a mess right now lol
>>7866104I love this, it’s like she’s degrading
>>7866110He's needed. This board would be dead without the teenage girl drama because no-one wants to pw
Also made a lot of good progress on this. Gonna touch up the skull, finish up the fish skull, and I’ll post when done
>>7864736dunno how comprehensible the redraw is>>7864766a few anons said I should use line weight>>7865277unreachable level>>7866104so envious of people who can understand the body so deeply
>>7866115>>7866222sex with these drawings
>>7866260I love you appealchad.
Hello there friends and schizos, today is my 30th day drawing, I stopped dailyposting because the schizos were annoying. Anyways here are some heads I drew today, I've mostly just been drawing heads trying to apply loomis method to reference pictures. I'd like to learn how to shade and also improve my line quality so I think I'll try ink sketching some objects and animals next month. See you all when I see you.
>>7866250do you do any underdrawing/construction for your studies or do you just go right at it with pen?
>>7866283Just go at it right away. As you can see I’ll usually do an underdrawing for maybe the pelvis or the skull but usually I just head straight into it. The more you draw the less necessary things like construction become, even though I use them from time to time
>>7866251love stuff of punishment for adultery.. scarlet letter style stuff.. nice>>7866260cool and helpful >>7866244lovely ballpoint pen work>>7866234ur becoming a box Chad
>>7866295Thanks anon. Nice brushwork and character design. Is she a werewolf esque character?
>7866115This garbage didn't deserve a single reply
>>7866297Quit hating
>>7866281based
>>7866297what's the problem >>7866296thanks! a were squirrel of sorts I thinkawesome study
>>7866307Thanks. And who knows, people on here be hating for no reason
>>7865870Looks nice anon, but I think the head on yours was a bit squished
>>7866226>loomis chad and actually learningPYL (post your loomis)
From last week. I'm still /beg/ but much better than id be if I didn't make the switch
>>7866325For>>7866323
>>7866325Nice loomers, anon. Keep it up
Damn, I actually surprised myself. I just wanted to fill the page with something, before doing another KTD lesson, and that turned into a nice copy.
tanku
>>7866325your center lines look off center
>>7866389Yeah you're definitely right. Any tips?
>>7866019The pose is good but her face, fingers being better shaped and the feet sizes being more consistent could use a bit more refinement.
new bread?
>>7866287what pens do you use? not really relevant i guess but just curious and i always enjoy seeing your studies and stuff
>>7866396Thanks. I just use a basic bic round stic ballpoint lol. I’ve just always drawn in ballpoint so I’ve gotten good with it
I DIDN'T DRAW FOR 2 WEEKS AND FORGOT EVERYTHING FUCK YES I LOVE MY STUPID INCEL CHUD LIFE!
Running through this morpho
>>7865870nice drawing but you need to work on observation and learn basics of perspective.
power armour study
Is photoshop brush smoothing as good as it gets or are plugins like lazy nezumi pro better? photoshop 2025 btw
>>7866295this is so cool
Some stuff I was playing around with
I feel unmotivated.
>>7866569Good.
>>7866569Get a different hobby then. You're always going to be bad if you wait for inspiration or motivation.
>>7866510lazy nezumi is way better
nother bath drawingmigraine day so no big drawings or writing>>7866505maschinen krieger? looks good desu>>7866597slay kween
>>7866604It's funny how all of the NY resolution begs that stuck around have already passed you in skill.
Today I learned that I just can't get anything done in short sessions. I tried drawing at night on weekdays. But I'm so slow and procrastinate so much that 3 hours aren't enough for me. I need to figure out how to stop wasting time when drawing.
>>7866631How long did it take you to chicken scratch the under drawing?
>>7866631That nigga on the right looks like he came out of a wikihow article
>>7866638The sketch took one hour and a half.>>7866640I wanted him to look like an average guy. But I think I made him *too* average lol.
Can someone delete one image please? I want to post something
>>7866295deeranon tackles the rendering, so I also tried some Not as satisfying, but I must improve and to improve I must practice and leave the comfort zone. What sort of hobby have I chosen...>pic not included due to image limit>>7866454jelly>>7866505Cool design>>7866631really interesting to see how you start out your drawings. That's some crazy scratching.
>800+ posts>Image limit reached.it's all so tiresome
It's over, this is the last thread
>>7866683>>7866683>>7866683lol
>>7862977>posemy.artThis site looks really good. The idea of using 3D models to dynamically move both the character and the view/perspective seems insanely useful.However, I'm confused on whether the site is free or not. The home page says>Free, Online, Simple, Easy, FastBut the "pricing" section says $15 monthly, $100 lifetime, $150 yearly.So is it free or not? If it's not, where can I get this stuff for free?
>>7866464Oh shit you're right. I will keep perspective lines more in mind next time. Thanks though!
