If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>Post Your Work and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.When receiving a critique, try to provide one in return>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7866683
i can do it
>>7869455HUMILIATION RITUAL
>>7869455
>>7869464don't feel bad, I had a preference for colored illustrations
I decided to see if my fundamental grinding is paying off and tried to construct some anime heads. I'm really happy with how they came out, but these took a ridiculous amount of trial and error to get looking good. At least when it came to the hair, I think I'm finally starting to 'think 3 dimensionally' or whatever the fuck that means.
>>7869468You're lying.. you hate me..
Is this really all you need?
>>7869478+ a lot lot lot of practice then yes
>>7869468Fucking bigot. We call them illustrations of color now.
>>7869473>these took a ridiculous amount of trial and error to get looking good.Why is that?And what's with the box method? I thought you were doing Hide's head course.
I have appeal and that's aaaallll that matters
>>7869490You might be mixing me up with another anon. I was working through Xiao Weichun's textbook in earlier threads. The basic idea of construction I learned there is helpful, but not directly when it gets to heads this stylized. A lot of the trial and error was trying to keep the character consistent when drawing from a new angle, which is something I haven't done before. Discounting skulls, I just haven't really drawn a huge number of heads, so I don't have a good intuition for facial feature placement for the tougher angles.
the fella
>>7869494I did mix you up sorry, I saw heads and lineart and didn't pay attention to the style.Did you already try Loomis? The template proportions work on many anime heads out of the box, and if not it's pretty easy to adjust them.This is just my own experience but I found trying to use a box first was counterproductive. Not only is it difficult (for me) to place the sphere inside the box correctly, but I had a tendency to flatten the features. Maybe I will try it again some other time.
where am I supposed to find a community for beginners where I can share my suffering with?Every discord I join has some draw gods and normal people drawing well
>>7869502here?
>>7869504Not really. i want instant feedback in a community.my constant bitching here makes me easy to identify and potentially become a lol cow this hobby breaks people like me
>>7869478A book on perspective would be a good idea too.
>>7869500I'm not attached to the box, and maybe trying loomis next time is a good shout. I don't really have an established method yet, but I liked the idea of the box, since it was closest to what I was doing with skulls and it sets a clear 'goal' perspective/scale for me at the start that I can shoot for.
>>7869478>>7869487>>7869509No gesture? Or did hamptons book cover that a little bit?Not even shitposting, genuinely curious
>>7869502>>7869504>here?No. This place should be the last place to look for help and crits.
>>7869502Why are you looking for something like that you fucking retard? You're given opportunities to surround yourself with better people FOR FREE and you instead want to downgrade to copies of yourself, what's the end goal, to kill yourself?
>>7869511hampton already covers gesture
>>7869128>literally haven't been here for months>threads filled with drama>discords filled with dramaWhat did he mean by this?
>>7869515because I'd be the joke there.and yes to that last question. drawing is the last thing I have left to fail at in life.
>>>/a/285616752Favelachad just barely completed one year drawing and already has 50k followers, Patreon bucks, followed back by his inspirations and has anons starting threads with his drawings and making fucktons of money from engagement and already being considered better than the current footfag artists.And you? What did you accomplish in a year? Can you make it without the talent of NIHUGOD? Why arent any of you as successful as him? Not even the ones who have been drawing for many more years than him
>>7869502what discords
>>7869525sorry but ngmi mindset
Another study done!
What do I fix
>>7869508>easy to identifyAs opposed to being a named individual within a smaller group of people?
>>7869528People don't earn money by being on 4chan, quite the opposite. If you want to earn a living, 80 percent of the time, you'll need this site behind. Normies cringe at redditors; 4chan is seen as worse than that.
small fix to my image in the previous thread.
>>7869560>>7869540>>7869554pedos btw
>>7869340practice drawing eyes more>>7869406i want to have sex with this>>7869094its as if i read your mind XDD\hmm yeah fair, i watched it at different stages of my life and its interesting to see that i react much differently each timestill love the movie bc it does delve deep into the psychological result of heavy trauma i will take ur offer and watch that movie ur talkin about :3happy to see another enjoyer of that fetish but yeah it does need proper build up and stuff
>>7869514why?
i realized im fucking stuff up because im not focusing enough
>>7869567/ic/ can be fun, sure. Posting your drawings on here is like joining a mosh pit, it can bring a great sense of togetherness, sometimes you'll see a schizo on the floor rambling about talent, sometimes you'll bump into people that post their own stuff, but there's a huge amount of crabs. Ultimately, once you leave the mosh pit, it continues as if you weren't even there. The only people that will remember you will be the crabs and schizos on the floor because they can't escape the pit.You'll get some responses, but 90 percent of the time it will be useless. Joining a local art community is better in the long run, even though it requires going outside and meeting people.
>>7869564of courseit's paige
>>7869564Rude. I will have you know that thar was clearly a self portrait. Proof
This is how I look like drawing (inconsistently) for 1 year
did the body largely from ref, then realized i cant draw faces from ref, so drew the rest by imagination
>>7869577Every art group I’ve joined IRL has been full of libtards. It’s terrible. Don’t conservatives draw?
I would like to know your ethnicity before I help you. Not to discriminate, but so I know which code to switch to.
>>7869603They do but there's 0 chance they'll ever join one of those groups, and probably 0 chance you'll ever clock one if you come off as even remotely liberal. Cons and even unaffiliated groups self-select hard against liberal groups and liberal friends (lol no that "conservative friend" is not conservative) so unfortunately liberals end up kludging together and create echo chambers wherever they go.
Her face is all wrong but at least I finished it.
>>7869609Conservative echo chambers are only on 4chan and grindr
>>7869614And how would you know? Are you conservative? Probably not, so you're getting your info from non-con groups or individuals. Case, meet point.
I went to a conservative artist meetup but there was this one weird guy there with long hair and cut marks. He showed me his bizarre gore porn collection of little boys and kept talking about how excited he is for his 3rd bath of the day despite smelling like blood and vomit. I never went back.
>>7869622>i went to a conservative meet up as a liberal and met liberalslmao, lol even. gatekeeping working as intended.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>try to draw a character in a specific angle>completely spill the beans and ruin the drawinghumbling
>>7869603Who honestly gives a fuck, nobody cares about an artist's politics if they can actually draw. Not to mention most artists are apolitical, they aren't retards who talk about politics on their art account.
BWEEEEEEEH!
>>7869633>nobody cares about an artist's politics if they can actually drawPeople will choose which artists to follow based on their politics and if they find out an artist disagrees with them they'll start saying their art was always bad.
>>7869648What are you even talking about? Nobody fucking does this nobody is going to look at ohisashiburi and then say "oh he doesn't like this Japanese politician so I'm unfollowing." This is the most retarded perma beg stance I have ever read.
>>7869633you're wrong most artist are philosophical.
>>7869633there was this gay retard, who said all art is political and I asked him if the watercolor trout I drawn (in the OP) was political, he said yes because fish go against the current.Some people are beyond helpless
>>7869624Nta. He's making a joke. How bad are your literacy skills? He's referencing the anon that keeps drawing the gay pedo-coded gore porn, and that they keep taking baths, 4 a day it seems.He's not even talking about liberals.
>>7869655Yeah bro people who draw anime tits and asses all day are philosophers like immanuel kant
>>7869648This anon is completely right.
>>7869660>because fish go against the currentAll that from a painting of a trout? I love abstract and contemporary art, but c'mon, you can't be serious. What other golden nuggets of wisdom did he spew?
>>7869665he was retarded and I didn't continue listening to him after that and went home
>>7869661Nta. That poster obviously doesn't live in the fucking 4chan /beg/ general. How /beg/ are your literacy skills?
>>7869669About as good as your mom was last night.
>>7869670Nta but you got mad, and sadly, lost this fight. Good effort, you are my special little poster. Try to control your emotions and we'll try getting you to draw again tomorrow, bud.
Everyone told me so far that the sketch is fine yet I’m still pretty convinced the guy looks fucked. How do I fix this
>>7869616Get a load of this guy. Doesn’t meet the height requirement for that joke
>>7869622Richard Ramirez?
>>7869675Did you already draw the whole guy NAKED on another layer? I've noticed pro-level artists draw each character in full on different layers and erase the mask layer to show overlapping shapes. (I can TRY to redline but I'd definitely utilize a 3d model for extra help)
>>7869528I wish I had talent.
>>7869674No u
>>7869682
what software do you all use everynyan? Buying a drawing tab and have never used any drawing software besides MS Paint.
>>7869663>Immanuel KantThat would imply that people love drawing tits for me when I show the tits I've drawn. Instead they scream 'pervert' at me. People really are ungrateful, those bastards.
>>7869674Who da fock arr ya mate? Da fooking coach?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF0qoTZghW4
>>7869685Most people use Krita here. Free, lightweight and reliable. It has everything you need to draw and paint.
>>7869685CSP, I tried fresco too and it was great
>>7869675is that mai and joey? lol
i've been learning to draw so i can draw a doujinshi with cynthia erivo and ariana grande. but, it's slow going. how much generally do good commissions run?
>>7869689Damn that actor is a grandpa now
>>7869691>Most peoplesource?
>>7869695Sadly, due to a lifetime of refusing to ejaculate directly onto an ovulating woman's eggs, he is not a grandpa
>>7869698Damn he's old AND based? What a god.
>>7869674Sorry, do you mean to say that your mom isn't good in bed? Do you know how insulting that is?
i tried to draw from imagination still suck
>>7869685I have clip studio paint version 1 because it was on sale for $20 like 10 years ago.
>>7869574Looks nice though
>>7869700Sorry, are you trying to reframe a joke that flopped? Did you know how embarassing that is for you?
>>7869380Eke'd out one more for good measure but that is all my battery drained for the day.
>>7869574whats point learning real head if you gonna draw anime
>>7869696Just from lurking the board for a few years, most drawfags use krita
>>7869704I didn't read a no in that statement, bud. Seems like you and I got some common ground after all.
>>7869707How do you do the melding shadows (vs the sharp ones)? I mean the ones on the shoulder blade/back thighs.I've always struggled to make it properly since i don't know any brush that works and i'm a blending amateur.
>>7869712soft eraser/brush
>>7869701What are you talking about man? That is GREAT! That's the kind of creative out of the box stuff that you would never get to do or find looking at refs, "courses" and "tutorials". You have not only "talent", you also may have the rare "it" factor. Go deeper.
>>7869710>fumbled the layupSo you actually are just stupid. Your post flopped like my cock when it pops out of your mother's mouth, unfortunately.
>>7869714I see. Thanks, anon. I shall experiment with it and try to figure it out.
>>7869685Wacom Intuos (small)ClipStudio Paint 4.0 (pro)
>>7869685wait for CSP to go on sale for 20 dollars or just pirate it
>>7869720>unfortunatelyThen put the dick back in? It's not that hard, I've heard. If it's a consistent problem, then it might be a length issue from becoming too eager. It happens to a lot of rabbits, don't worry.
Can you two talk about art ffs
>>7869726Unfortunately the guy is retarded and can't bant so fortunately I will not be hard carrying that retard.
>>7869592cute
>>7869648shitter and blueshit in a nutshell>>7869685i use procreate mainlysometimes csp>>7869706have you considered he wants both maybe>>7869722monke
Int checking in, was done with graphite aquarelle. May do more desu
does the guy on the left looks too fucked? that perspective/angle/everything really vexed me. i think i messed up her arm tooprobably the hardest thing i tried to do in a long itme>>7869610i think she looks really cute, i like it
>>7869511You don't need an entire book on gesture. I can't believe I'm saying this but Proko's videos on gesture is probably the best there is, short, sweet and accurate.
>>7869603Unless it's a wojak edit or political comic, no, they don't.
>>7869717ty
rosetta
>>7869581cute dollfuwould fuck
>>7869675Thought the same thing as >>7869693
wa
>>7869748her arms are a little thin don't chat think anon?
>>7869455Trying to get out of my comfort zone regarding perspective. Is proving very challenging but educational.
>>7869752i don't think so, i guess it's deltoid thats off and make it look like that. Gonna fix it other day.>>7869763head way too big, i know the struggle with perspective but it's actually fun once you get grasp of it, keep it up.
>>7869455Celtic guardian
>>7869768BasedWas always one of my favourite og cards.
Does my shading look ok?
>>7869779shading on the boobs weird
>>7869779Yes it looks fine. That "cel-shade" style is great to get into the basic principles of value, light and shadow.
>>7869779Blend your edges like this
>>7869786
>>7869767>i don't think so, i guess it's deltoid thats off and make it look like that. Gonna fix it other day.Her elbow isn't lining up with the bottom of her ribcage as far as I can tell, and her arms almost look thinner than her neck. I know you like titties anon, but you're gonna have to draw her without them first methings. Her shoulder is busted to fuck.
yaaaawn
>>7869787Nice, thank you
Finished this>>7869768its peak...
SHIT
>>7869813BWEEEEEEEEEEHHH
the cum...
>>7869802Nice I like
new artist herewhat do I do on days where my art is worse than ever? i cant draw lines, all my pens look awful etc.
>>7869853every has days like that. if you really aren't feeling it, it's OK to take a break, though you might also try a different technique or tool out to try and reset things
>>7869385yuh>>7869768pro
>>7869853What do you mean your "pens"?
>>7869853try a new medium or subject matter so you have an excuse as to why it suckspractice coloring with a pros lineart drawingtrace over something to practice hand-eye coordination, lineart etc.practice the more solid fundamentals like perspective. if you follow all the steps and use tools like rulers & grids, you can't really mess it up.
>>7869455All good so far, right guys?
>>7869869Temu Violence Jack is actually pretty funny ngl
Something >>7869745Why she look upset? >>7869560>>7869777Cute
>>7869869you should draw more bush peeking>>7869075
>Downloaded hide's course for head drawing>Presently getting filtered by pic relatedI hate studying so much
>>7869779getting sloppy, man! weak figs! maybe you're trying out cartoon bobblehead proportions? top left has a giraffe neck. the sitting fig I think you phoned in because her hands are obscuring the lower body. construct the forms even when you can't see them!
>>7869905I hated the skull section of that too. If you are trying to draw along, don't bother. On multiple occasions he will end the video by quickly showing a bunch of corrections he made.Just watch the video first and draw it all at the end.
>>7869455Does Loomis provide a good method of drawing faces? I'm currently doing TKD and while I think my proportions are not that bad, the faces are outright horrible.
>>7869722hey, I use intuos s too. it's ass. I plan to buy a larger intuos later this year
>>7869908It's not only that the content is just so dry. >tfw to draw cute girls you first have to draw reality meme is realAlso I really have trouble drawing forms so I know this is my panacea if I can nail this I just hate this truth so much ACK
>>7869768Sick, dudeYou got that 90s anime fantasy that I like
Unappeal bros, how we holding up?
>>7869896Shoulder is hanging by a thread and they have no shoulder blade
>>7869930Oh, right, good catchi was too focused on the head, i forgot the shoulders
>>7869455how to make it not look like an old bald man
>>7869937Probably nose too big.Old people's noses are larger because they keep growing through life and makes it a defining characteristic. Also remove the extra dark areas near the temples it makes it look like he has bald man hair
>>7869905skulls only clicked for my with Tom Fox but he goes autism mode on the structure
>>7869905Hides course is good?
Current situation is unideal for drawing but the grind must continue
>>7869974>what is stylization begone foid
finally finished this after not drawing for two weeks. im cooked
>>7869984hes just an angry boy
>>7869981Pedro mogs
>>7869981its over mangasis
>>7869991Maybe its just me but I find it pretty hard to read
>>7869992Yeah, on second thought even for me it's too hard. Thanks for your opinion, I'll redo it.
>>7869970Hide's own drawings are mediocre but serviceable. If anything it's essentially a more detailed Loomis course with an anime aesthetic, the simplicity makes it a decent starting point for begs.You should probably learn basic perspective before starting his course though.
>>7869455Is the perspective good here so far?
>>7870038
>>7870039
First attempt at gesture without drawing along with hampton, it looks more like outlines, so I'm not sure I understood it.Anyone have advice ?
>>7870057alright this one is kind of a meme since I can't even see the legs properly. Also legs are harder than the arms for some reason
>>7870057>>7870070looks good to meIt takes maybe years to understand gestures. If you have like 170+IQ, you can make it in a month or two.do gesture drawing as a warmup.
>>7870039Top of mouth is super short
>>7870039the tentacle is kino
>>7869981I look like this
>>7870084Understood. I’ll try to lengthen it best as I can. >>7870086Thanks anon. Gonna update once I’m done
>>7870057>does this capture the original?no>is it pretty by itself?no>is this a good framework for a finished drawing?we wont know because you dont finish any of them
Why the fuck are the on days so drastically better than the off days. Like you'd expect the off day to be lesser but not a complete reduction to 0. Oh well.
shut up pedo
The head is too big right?
>>7870132Maybe but your bigger issue is the face size I think.
>>7870057I'd put much more emphasis on the twist in upper body. Try to over exaggerate the pose>>7870094Faggot crab
>>7870132yes
First time putting effort into something that isn't a head or face. Still getting used to blending markers but I'm very happy with the result even though it's sloppyAlso a random Ditko study
>>7870132sovl
>>7870057And I first tried to lean gesture from Hampton too and he is legit an atrocious source for begs. He is better revisited once you get somewhat comfortable with drawing. Gestures are actually hard as fuck to pull off, you need to draw dozens and hundreds of them to start getting the feeling and understanding unless you are a talentfag. Try also watching Proko's and Brent Eviston's take on gestures. I watched them all and took bits and pieces from them in my gesture drawings.
>try to draw black character>end up in a Different art stylehave to manually tweak the look to get them in line with other characters, what does this say about me?
>>7870133Eyes too big?
>>7870147large ass nose, she jewish or what?
boobs too big
wip from ref
>>7870134>made it capture the original just like i saidIm so right you dont even now how right i am
I didn't know where else to ask this.>write or draw thing>"hey this is pretty good">put it away for ~3 days>look at it again>"wow this is fucking shit"What do you call this phenomenon?
>>7870156Learning to recognize flaws. If you can identify what's wrong the second time around, you are over halfway through the process of improvement
>>7870156It's called learning you fucking retard.
>>7870160>>7870163No, there has to be a more specific name for this. I refuse to believe there isn't.
>>7870134Thanks for the advice anon, yeah I felt like mine looked too stiff, now I get why. I'll try to exaggerate more
>>7870132I’m a complete beginner, but for some reason, I get the feeling that her head should be wider. Defer to literally anyone else, though. And yes, her nose is huge.
>>7870160Why aren't these flaws recognizable right away? Why do I have to disengage for a while?
I'm not drawing. Fuck you
>>7870132unsymmetrical body, you can see it when looking at the neck, and the head is displaced
I'm not fucking. Draw you
>>7870143I think it's wild how everyone does gesture somewhat differently, looking at some different ways to do it sounds like a good idea>>7870081I'm still finding out where or what to learn exactly but I'm not gonna do gestures all day, maybe as a warmup like you said and spend the majority or time on drawing the actual figure / proportion / anatomy
>>7870137I lime the colors alot, looks very vibrant
>>7869869King /beg/ has returned.
>>7869455Advice on how to achieve a professional looking semi realism?
>>7870146it just occured to me that this reads less like a man's introspection and more like really shitty /pol/ bait, I apologise
>>7870152>not drawing the tattoosbased as fuck
>>7870212me on the left
>>7870160>>7870163It feels more like when you set out to draw something and get it partially right, your brain temporarily learns to translate what you drew into what you actually intended. If someone else drew it you'd be able to see it as shit from the start, but when you draw it yourself you need a break to let the association with what you were aiming for fade before you can see it for what it is. I think what you're really learning isn't how to recognize flaws, it's where you need to be careful to stamp out the flaws early before your eyes have time to adjust to them.
I've been drawing since december 2021. 2 hours a day 3 - 5 days a week depending on how I feel. Recently I've been getting a lot more serious about my drawings and noticed that whenever I'm brainstorming how I'd like to stylize a character I will draw the head then erase it then draw it again, tuning aspects like the eyes, shape, sharpness etc. until it looks like how I want it to is that a bad idea or is this how you're supposed to train style?
i swear 4chan /ic/ is much better than 99% art discord server
>>7870221pyw
>>7870227what art discords you're on nigga lol
>>7870258that one where they keep asking me to send dick pics, or else they will make fun of my fetish art publically here on /ic/....
>>7870227>>7870258are there even any good drawing related discords?
>>7868308PAGE 8 DONE! Taking it easy now, last thread left me in shambles lol>>7869436>It feels even more special, since I think one of my pieces prompted your idea.>I'm excited to see where this one goes... since a cult is involved... the summoning of a succubus? Appeasing a hedonistic vampire lady living among mortals?Thank you so much anon! Yes This one I'm doing it for you, because you shared your shibari thing and also your art inspires me. Hopefully the "unveiling" of this hedonistic cult will be fun enough for you to enjoy hee-hee..>I wanted to respond earlier and post some art, but I got falsely banned. Dynamic IP from ISP or sth.Yeah it can happen. Sometimes if I go by mistake into the site through the private mode of the browser that can trigger it too.>>7869566>its as if i read your mind XDD\Yeah I know!>hmm yeah fair, i watched it at different stages of my life and its interesting to see that i react much differently each time..still love the movie bc it does delve deep into the psychological result of heavy traumaDon't get me wrong, the theme of the movie is no joke, the visual brutality takes away the focus from the importance of the plot. Obviously the movie work as a n exposure device of these cults and sects that really believe in that shit.>happy to see another enjoyer of that fetish but yeah it does need proper build up and stuffI'll try to think about that, gotta resume the amputee prison story, and I have to start the story about our Handsome Wild West hero, it will be called: "A white Feather for the Marshall">>7869734This is extremely beautiful. Extra props for trad effort.>>7869768You're back! YES!!!>>7869770I love your work, your nsfw stuff is such a treat>>7869779I love your figures!!!>>7869903Wholesome and adorable as usual>>7869869Every time I go to sleep I pray to God to see a new piece from you in this thread. Thanks anon.>>7870152I like this so much!, saved.
>>7870268I found a small art community on a CS2 streamer server of all things
>>7870268yes but the good ones are all gatekept
I can't fucking draw :(
>>7870283Yes you can, you just don't know how. That's why you are here to learn. Post your work and get some advice on what to work on
>>7870269Where I can masturbate to more of your work?
>>7870269How long did it take you draw this
>>7869714Bless your soul anon. It's gonna take a while to figure out (since i'm also just beginning shading practice) but atleast now i know what tool to master.
was trying to figure out what the fuck is wrong with all of my recent drawings and then I realized it's because I haven't used loomis in 8 months. time to relearn loomis
I'm not exactly starting from zero as I've drawn as a hobby since I was very young, but I'm still very much a /beg/ because I don't really have a good grasp of the fundamentals. I admittedly don't feel as much of a desire to rapidly learn them all since I mostly like my toon drawings as a supplement to character creation and writing, but recently I tried to draw a bird (the greater lophorina) from a reference after doodling it by memory, and I realized I greatly lack the ability to properly interpret references, as in, I don't think I know what I'm looking at. This is deeply frustrating, as I want to feel confident in what my eyes see. After some research, one could say I suffer from symbol drawing, no? As in, I draw what I *think* I see rather than what is actually there. I did a still life of a crushed can I had and attempted to copy a portrait of Aaron Copland, and then later marked them over (primarily the Copland) digitally (It does not look like Copland, but rather a respectable cafe/dive bar owner), which you can see in the catbox link below. I'm thinking of reading Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain too, if that would be any help to me. Hopefully my shitty phone camera and shitty indoor lighting doesn't completely fuck this up, lol.https://catbox.moe/c/igs8ng
>>7870132>The head is too big right?more like face is too big and neck is massive. Also shoulders should be wider i guess
>>7870146I don't think it really means anything about you, it just means that your artstyle isn't flexible, but in most cases that shouldn't mean you have to completely overhaul it. Do you have any examples?
>>7869633If that's the case, why do you post here instead of on Reddit? I like people's art who I disagree with but I'm not going to like spending time with, say, some retard with a sea sponge tier political opinion like that ICE is Nazis, for instance. That would get very tiring very quickly.
Keys to DrawingProject 2 B: Emulating a Master's HandwritingI attempted to emulate Herni Matisse's artstyle. I don't think I emulated her style too well though.Here's the reference I used. https://i.postimg.cc/yd1WTYNg/C1Mvg30.jpgI screwed up on the proportions once I zoomed in on her leg to try and draw her heels correctly though
>>7870324I think I worked it out in the end >>7870294
>>7870331I didn't know him personally or anything but I'm pretty sure Henri Matisse was a man
>>7869970I did his course and it was a game changer for meI'll shill his shit until the end of time
>>7870306ANON HER NIPPLES DO NOT REST ON THE BOTTOM OF HER TITS. GOOGLE TITTY UNDERSIDE VIEW RIGHT NOW
>>7870347Which one did you do? Nice drawings btw
>>7870352The head courseNow I'll start the figure drawing oneHis youtube channel now has a lot of dubbed content likehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4JitQqas3oit's pretty good
>>7869455I feel like there's something wrong with the chin/mouth here. Can anyone help?
>>7869706because i want to draw both>>7869703thanks t dino with arms looks funny
>>7870357His mouth is too small. That's all.
>>7870380Hmm thought so. Thanks.
>>7869455first time using a drawing tablet.
>>7870321Holy shit man its like having the veil lifted from my eyes. Thanks for this, really good redline
>>7870347could you share some work from right before you took the course and after?
I doth draw boysluts. It's the only way to curb my homosexual instincts
>>7870391https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcWM_1hBu_c
>>7869977If that's the only problem I'll fix it
>>7870391Mogs the whole thread, saved
I finished Marc Brunets 30 day challenge.Is this what people call improvement?
>>7870420it is better so i guess yes
>>7870404The figure on the left was a new approach to a drawing I did before the course; the heads on the right also had the glabella/nose geometry incorrect.Using what he taught about adopting the glabella as the most important reference point on the head, and not the eye line, made it much easier for me to understand facial geometry
>>7869997perspective? like advanced?
>>7870391who did you learn anatomy from
>>7870425is the course in the video course general and translated?
Been a little while since I posted some sketches here so why not
toucan wipwant to try inking this one too like the frog but i'm afraid i'm gonna mess it up badly. trying to figure out the local values and getting the details right with just ink is going to be tough
>>7870438I got it from the video course generalIt has eng subtitles but I watch it on allplayer because it has an ai narrator featureSo I can understand while I watch him drawing
>>7870436Bridgeman but i still havent copied the whole book, i need to learn legs and the back of the torso.
>>7870420>Literally the same
Latest stuff. Since I'm a jobless loser, I thought I could make some side money by trying to sell fanart on some con in the near future.
i'm going to lose it, i just can't get comfortable with the classic hard round brush. even just making it a slanted line like pic related makes it so much easier for me to draw with. i really want to get good at it though so i can sketch, paint, lineart, etc. with the same brush and get that hrb look
>>7870464>picrelI think you should put the pencil down and start looking for a job then. Any job, even McDonald's would be a better use of your time lmao
>>7870464die werewolf
>>7870472Would love to hear some critique. But yeah, I rather live on welfare until I make it. Busy bodybuilding, drawing and just living. No big need for money, but if I can get some trough art, I don't mind it.
>>7870479The face is kind of ugly (no hate) but the rest of the body is alright, better than what most ppl post in some comission subreddits and the like
>>7870464>>7870479Aniki, give me a rundown on how to live on welfare pls...
Get up and stretch, I bet you haven't for a while
>>7870348You mean the first one? That's light not the nips. Check eye whites.
>>7870357Eheheh where can I read your manga?
Lines
>>7870269yay amputee story :DDDDoh man you have a lot of work lined up :O>the art in the picture framechef kiss <3>>7869770alluring >>7870391mogged me so hard you got me inspired>>7870425nice tits
>>7870464stack on the pomni and hazbeen trash because you are going to be selling those to dem kidz
a bomb i found in pinterest
>>7870498is that you xanny?
>>7870479I) Your understanding of the centerline and the torso is a bit off. The center line tracks well from the abdominals between the breasts but then the sternum appears to be caved in towards the left too much. The result is that the bottom of the torso looks slightly disconnected from the centerline of the collarbones and neck. The way you design hair and braids could use some work as you tend to repeat similarly sized spikes at equal spaces too much. The design would be much stronger if you learned how to incorporate principles of "Small Medium and Large" for both your positive and negative shapes. I would also learn line weighting more as it would make your illustrations feel a bit less cheap.II) The lighting is a bit wrong. I get the feeling we would see more of the light hitting the left planes of the pectoralis, judging that the deltoid and side of the face are fully lit. III) Color theory wise you could also do a bit better. Your choice of colors in the shadows feels dull for the skin, and could use more hue variation so it feels less dead.IV) For the design, I'm not sure the red spikes on her trapezius is supposed to be feathers or fur. Even with just silhouette, shape, and cell shading, I should be able to tell what material it's supposed to be in your design. This lack of material understanding is also apparent in the way you handle the metal on her design as well as being a bit too sparse with some much needed extra drapery folds on her chest to show the tension of the fabric.Personally I'm not a huge fan of this design, but taste aside I think it will take a few years to improve from points I-IV to the point where you could reliably hope to get income from your work that would exceed what you get from welfare or any entry level wage job. You obviously have some experience, but your execution, character designs, and fundamental understanding still needs further refinement.
>>7870514any clue on the source?
>>7870272DM me please!
>>7869768>>7869772Thank you !>>7869773I love this card as well. Maybe I should draw more yugioh cards in the future.>>7869802Is that Maki from Jujutsu Kaisen. Very Cool!>>7869869You are being too nice again. I really like your shape language <3
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>7869768>>7869927I too like 90 anime asthetic thank you!>>7870269I am always here. Thank Peril!
>>7870515Who?
>>7869455I bought a Samsung tablet from a Korean guy so I could draw at work. Drawing with a screen for the first time feels awesome. I can actually see what I'm drawing. Yore opinione?
>>7870529post cat
>>7870529Cute cat. I think that it looks a little red for a cat, but overall, it looks very solid. I like the eyes and collar in particular.
>>7870529cute but the placement of features is kinda all over the place. you should probably try to study the forms of a cat's head some more and get familiar with it
>>7870533Here you go.>>7870537Oh yeah, I didn't notice how, uh, red, this drawing is until halfway through.>>7870539Ah, true. I think I misaligned the eyes too.
mecha practice
Monster.
>>7870464Why are you letting yourself be abused by these losers? Why are you even posting in this thread?
>>7870464can someone give me a rundown on why this guy seems to be universally hated
I cant draw.I saw an artist I follow draw on stream requests so good and easily and it makes me want TO BLOW MY FUCKING
>>7870517bruh if this guy is YEARS away from being /pro/ then im not gonna make in this lifetime
>>7870576Hagström's portfolio on Instragram and Artstation are little better but a lot of the female faces look too masculine and the aforementioned issues also creep into his other drawings. Mind you, he said he's on welfare so it doesn't look like Kaj is getting getting a mentor or going to a school anytime soon. He will have to grind it out like the rest of us.Getting from /beg/ to /int/ can be relatively short with consistent practice and learning theory. To go from /int/ to /pro/ takes several years of dedicated effort getting specialized feedback especially if you want to make it in a highly competitive saturated market for character art.>>7870561It's because he is bald.
ive been busy with classesbut i saw the phantom of the opera recently & cant stop thinking about it so i decided to do a drawing
Didnt have time to color tonight but I inked this from last week>>7870524It is Maki, thank you
>>7870586I love the body shape and outline! Who were your inspirations ?
>>7870586Kantai in this day and age? Nice
>>7870286>Where I can masturbate to more of your work?Now I'm "archiving" my stuff here >>>/i/824791 Though there's a whole bunch of stuff that I still have to post there, I need to finish this one comic first to resume the archiving there.>>7870296These pages takes me between 4 and 5 hours. This one doesn't have any female figures or sexy scenes, it was a chill one, so I'm not sure if it took me less time, or not. >>7870508Yeah, I really want to go back to the prison one, that's why I'm rushing up this one with the red headed girl.>the art in the picture frameThat's one of the pieces from this anon >>7861799 I like his weird/occult erotic themes>>7870527I'm happy to see your frogs back!>>7870316Nice studies anon, I don't think there's anything wrong with your brain, this is just a matter of habit, the more you do it, the better you adapt to it.>>7870357I think is the eye. It's a very subtle detail. This anon made it work tho, he just did the eye a tiny bit different >>7870498>>7870371Cool Dracula!
>>7870577hi sorry if i appear need (i definitely will) but you seem like a career artist or something of the sort. would you give a fuck about giving me a sort of rundown on how far away i am from like being a career artist? i could make a separate thread and add like 10 images. this is the stuff ive posted in this threat so you know youre not dealing with a prebeg or anything>>7870546>>7870385>>7870152>>7869592
need advice on how much I should charge for a comission. So, I usually charge 50 usd for a full body render, but this person came up to me asking for a character reference sheet with front and back views with two alternative outfits. I'm not really sure on how much I should charge for something like this, since i've never gotten a request for a ref sheet before.
Daily sketch Also, who’s pedroAlso this captcha is impossible on mobile
>>7870601Who da fuck is peedro?
>>7870596this one is actually funny
>>7869790yo any better?
>>7870597I would like to preface Kaj that you are by no means a bad artist. In fact I think you're probably one of the better guys here posting regularly, but that's not a very high bar to begin with. The main problem I see with you is that your portfolio is very scattered and not playing to your strengths and background in physical fitness in the gym.Your mech and monster/creature designs are the strongest in terms of being useful as a product as many of the things I nitpicked you for are not issues. Robots and demon humanoids can have wacky proportion and lack of lineweight or gesture if being used in pipeline, etc. Weirdly enough, some of your older work is sometimes better than your newer work in terms of this aspects.I'd say reviewing your work in entirety again, you're several years away from getting work doing female characters on your own, but possibly 1 year away if you took a private class to iron out your proportional issues.I could see you working for a game that needed jacked monster dudes if you learned how to render in color well, though. They're very sexy.The best course of action to get hired would probably to double down and make a series of yoked demons and make that your main niche. You can always branch out later.
>>7870639>course of action to get hiredDoes anyone truly believe there is future in this shit career?
>>7870347name of that HIDE course?
>>7870464> Kaj Hagström>15 years on artstation>Somehow needs to smurf herefake
>>7870644retard
>>7870528the one sometimes referred to as pedro and tranny and so on
>>7870644of course not
>>7870658I'm not them sorry.
>>7870660ah, i see. xanny was once a real terror to these threads with a lot of derailing and blog-posting early on, but did at least draw a lot and was starting to mellow out
>>7869455Struggling with this leg…And red lines to help?
>>7870656>Retard>Riot got rid of most of their art department>Same for Blizzard>Activion was using AI for COD sprites>Netflix using AI for posters>Coca Cola christmas ad was AI>Shift Up (studio for Nikke and Stellar Blade) is also using AI with the lead director (husband of the lead artist) proudly showing off AI works>Wacom, Huion and CSP caught using AI for ads>Top Patreon earners user AI (Shexyo, Ebora, etc)>Hollywood using AI for small sequences in blockbuster capeshit.>Art competitions worldwide for gacha shit, nintendo , music videos like the Rolling Stones fiasco from 2023 are being won by AI>Somehow it is retarded to think that a career that demanded exceptionalism in skill or taste to be successful and coined the term "starving artist" and where people keep getting shafted by ridiculous payment processor rulings and now also every shitter with a internet connection being able to outproduce you with slop will get anything but deathwish difficulty easier.Delusional or blind.
>>7870504
>>7870665
>>7870666there was also that physical fine-art painting competition that let an ai piece through and win
>>7870667sex
can anyone recommend me a manga with interesting drawings to draw?
>>7870671I love you Raxav. Please draw huger watermelon-sized tittes.
>>7870669Bless your heart anon, thank you
>>7870675wacchu looking for
>>7870666just produce good art, there are plenty of normies that don't like AI no mather how it looks and there are projects that require hand made art. This will never change.
>>7870666>666Trips of truth. Hey don't forget that Japan is also replacing some mangas in their magazines for AI mangas, even the animation studios are now using AI to produce slop at a faster rate.
>>7870686>Japan is also replacing some mangas in their magazines for AI mangaslike what?>even the animation studios are now using AI to produce slop at a faster rate.those studios were shit before they start using it and suprise it's still shit.
>>7870347After looking at it again, I saw the hand was out of place and tried to fix it>>7870665This is not a normal human leg, it's a digitigrade(animal that walk on their toes), is that a satyr or something? You'll be better off looking for dogs, cats or birds legs for ref>>7870645A Guide for Drawing Faces So You Can Draw Any Character
>>7870601pedros atleast gone from this board now if not just lurking ever since i got blocked for not agreeing with something
>>7870675baki
Hate work, I just want to draw.
At what point should I start enjoying anything about drawing?I'm finding it worse and more unenjoyable the more I try and "learn".My art isn't improving and my line control is worse.
>>7870689feels like the left fig's ribcage is too flat. like you followed the construction box too closely
>>7870666>the only reason to go into art is for the moneyart has literally always throughout all of history been dogshit for money unless an artist is famous or willing to draw wonder bread porn
did the captcha like 7 times already fml
>>7870717sorry idk why it didn't attach
>>7870666what's your skin color?
>>7870712from day one, just putting marks down is fun. see if you can have some fun doodling random marks.keep drawing fun the whole time by drawing things you like. focusing on learning isn't fun, you improve faster if you try to maximize fun instead.not liking your drawings is an emotional problem, we can't really help with that. go for a walk, meditate or talk to a therapist or something
>>7870347I think it is too advanced for me. I have to keep alt tabbing back and forth because my memory never fails to screw with me
>>7870689sex>>7870710those are fantastic anon, very apealing.
i refuse to do draw a box but sometimes i will draw boxes
>>7870743/beg/ humiliation ritual time
>>7870743abandoned nagomurasan style studyevery time i try to do a study i become more and more convinced that i am severely mentally retarded>>7870747yeah...
I think I'm ngmi
>>7870751we're ngmi together
>>7870749you are using a mouse aren't you? Not gonna lie you need to start on paper my man
>>7870391another one, i tried to copy a ghost in the sell frame because i really like the artstyle
>>7870754reference
>>7870753i probably should, i felt like my drawings were better on digital then on paper at first though i'm pretty sure i'm regressing now
coomy boxes
Is he correct?
>>7870482>The face is kind of ugly (no hate)Thank you! While drawing, you easily get "blind" about the shitty mistakes you make. I can see it now. Really need to work on this. I've been complete garbage at drawing women for a long time. Much better now, but there's still a long way to go.>>7870517Thanks! This was really in-depth. I know I fucked up the body, but I realized to too late and was too lazy to fix it. I had already finalized the lines. The design itself is from Overwatch. Overall great critique and I will try to improve on all of the points. Love this place due to the unfiltered critique.I tried using a 2px round brush with no size pressure on this one, but I guess it didn't work out that well. >>7870577Yeah, I suck at drawing female faces. Long way to go on that. >It's because he is bald.trustudies attached.>>7870576
>>7870768>18 months of grinding fundiesThat will slay all but the most autistic of /beg/s
>>7870768>You MUST torture yourself to improve Holy crab
>>7870778Doing studies is torture?
>>7870781It's a discordtroon raid>gesturefun and quick>constructionThe base of every great drawing>AnatomyExtremely fun>Master StudiesBit boring but whatever>anime in 3/4s anglesExtremely fun
>>7870781Simply having fun while drawing is miles more important than trying to optimize the shit out of a creative hobby as if it's an exact science. Grinding fundamentals to a point where you really only do them can lead to rapid improvement but far more likely it'll lead to burnout and subsequently make another person quit this hobby for good
>>7870768is this chatGPT lol
>>7870783Retard
>>7870787I accept your concession
>>7870790Drawing is an exercise on critical thinking and spatial awareness. Both things are incredibly fun to do.Doodling garbage is not the way to go, never was never will be.
>>7870786It's Grok
>>7870794>>7870768>zoomers are so mentally unsound they need to ask glorified google how to improvegrim. Just go back to spamming doodles bro, it's le fun and that's what le matters isn't it?
>>7870778>You MUST torture yourself to improvethis is true thoughbeit
>>7870719
>>7870778Correct.No pain, no gain.
>>7870798if you think anatomy and construction is pain just like get another hobby, i heard gardening is the new prad...er...skibidi bixnoodz
>>7870799fuck off, retard
>>7870801If you don't want honesty why not go back to discord? You are never going to make it, best case scenario you copy paste bodies like the Brazilian tard. Worst case scenario you never get good.
Any tips for drawings the legs and arms? I'm struggling with them more than I should
>>7870799every hobby has its pain spots unless you're crazy enough to enjoy everything all the time. what matters is you balance those with the parts of the hobby you enjoy.
>>7870802What discord?
>>7870794Do you even have 10 fingers?
>>7870816Maybe.Why are you asking?
>>7870588Skullgirls, Shantae, Panty Stocking, plus lots of other random artists>>7870593I'm old. And thank you both
>>7870778One way to lessen the pain is to not push yourself to grind past fatigue or even uncomfortable. For example attempting 1 shitty sketch of a body part each day is better than drawing nothing for 6 months. I find most people that suffer and hate the learning process are most likely to be result-oriented and this manifests across any hobby or activity. For this type of person it won't help to try to find some other hobby to avoid the pain in the present because the same suffering will surface in a different form unless that hobby is purely a consumption hobby. I also have this problem. Hate learning, hate the struggle, impatient to a fault, I just want to skip everything and get to the good bits, but the realist in me knows its not possible. So people like us need to find ways to cope or trick ourselves into following the process. Or don't and just give it up and go back to vidya and jerking off, its just a hobby after all idk.
>>7870666Even paintpigs that claim to be anti-ai use it from time to time for prototyping. Humans always follow the path of least resistance, so it's inevitable that the share of people making a living with art will decrease by at least one order of magnitude.
Bocchi
>>7870768Uniroinically. Think about guys like permabegschizo, i believe he likes drawing but he likes drawing what he wants, which is Urabe and balloon boobs. That's why he doesn't improve, he doesn't study, contruction, anatomy and masters (the most important imo)It's like wanting to be a good vet and only learn about cats, how will going to the care of a dog?
>>7870869That is just lack of talent. Look at Favelachad drawing nothing but tomboy feet and he is one of the most successful from here.
>>7870768>>7870795>>7870794>ImplyingChatgptfag is miles ahead of your average anon and he is being mentored by chatgpt.
>>7870878That nigger quit and has never produced a single original work.
>>7870823do you live in the western or eastern hemisphere?
>>7870835>Even paintpigs that claim to be anti-ai use it from time to time for prototyping>Sydus being anti-aiHe is a tracer. He has always looked for the cheapest way to draw and is making fucktons from it.
>>7870884What's wrong with this
>>7870886It's a crutch, trivializes perspective, proportions
>>7870893And why is that a problem?
>>7870893End result looks good so it's good
>>7870899What if you want to draw something that doesn't have a 3d model to guide over?
Should I use size or opacity pressure for line art?
>>7870910The only people who say this are people who never do trad. Literally the only advantage trad has is medium texture/friction and maybe the aesthetics of real pencil or paint strokes. From a technical perspective, transform/liquify/layers/clipping layers/changing any fucking color you want at any time to something else/models/etc opens up possibilities impossible with a trad workflow and it's not even close.
>>7870904the legs are wrong, no idea why he's even using the mannequin, he obviously knows how to construct anime bodies since he's not even following the model
>>7870913funny if you ask this about reference people lose their shit but have no problem complaining about 3d models like that lol
>>7870921you can mash together references to create something unique.
>>7870923like ai? lol
American comics are so fucked up. It's inane.>>7870797Pretty nice doodles! I love the shapes, I used your figs in the back for a quickie! Thanks for the inspo!>>7870610Really? Thank you so much!>>7870347Always a delight to see your work>>7870546Nice!!! Can you do bikes?>>7870385This is amazing>>7870772This is incredible...>>7870766Yes! the best kind of boxes!>>7870754Based Shirow enjoyer>>7870710You're blessed to have this in your life. Most waggies have to settle for consuming slop and eating snacks, staring at the slop-void for the rest of their lives.
>>7870768Pretty crazy that literally everything written in this is what I'm doing word for word. And I do think I've improved compared to last year's drawings.
>>7870768I've been grinding gesture, construction and form for over a year and have seen zero improvement. It literally doesn't matter what you do. If you have talent you will improve regardless of how you practice and what you draw. Otherwise you will just stay stuck in permabeg hell forever.
>>7870917It doesn't matter if it's wrong, looks goodAppeal > anatomy
>>7870917>the legs are wrongtheyre notThe legs are the only correct thing on that fucking drawing
>>7870913>>7870921You can change the model settings so they have the proportions of the figure you want.
>the the the anatomy is wrong! the hands are making a 12 degree rotation which doesn't happen in human hands!Lol beglets always amuse me
>>7870959Amuse us and pyw.
>>7870950It looks good because it's anatomically correct you fucking mongoloid, the legs are slightly off but that's it.
>>7870768>>7870869You cant improve without talent. Permabegs like Pawell, Doll, Sharkchad(pbuh) and others prove it.
>>7870959post your work, let's see those anatomically incorrect masterpieces.
>>7870988Retard, they don't grind, they don't study, they just draw the same thing over and over
>>7870990And what is studying but grinding subjects over and over? If your accuracy is fucked you also are fucked.You either have eyes for art or you dont.
>>7865201>wow, he does? i hope it's a third party because that's really disappointing if true>do you have any other chunky loli artists to study?I am sorry anon but it is true. He claims he has started to use AI and even spent thousands of dollars on GPUs to slop locally.
>>7870990What are you talking about? Pawell and Pawell 2.0 (Doll) drew/draw a large variety of things and actually have quite a few sketches and studies. The problem is their minds are warped to the point that they have terminal unappeal syndrome (anti-talent).
>>7870996>The problem is their minds are warped to the point that they have terminal unappeal syndrome (anti-talent).Nah it's autism of the shitty kind, it makes people face-blind complexly knee deep in the spectrum.>>7870994I thought people used to bully these absolute fucking retards, what happened? pretending to be an artist is way better than actually becoming one isn't it?
>>7870991>>7870996
>>7871002>Nah it isnt talent. It is just (innate debuff that cripples your drawing with different words)So, talent
>>7871002>I thought people used to bully these absolute fucking retards, what happened? pretending to be an artist is way better than actually becoming one isn't it?Anon, THAT is the artist!.He claims he gets tired and injured from drawing so he has been investing time and money to get his own slop setup and feed it doodles to then convert into slop customized to his own artstyle.>I thought people used to bully these absolute fucking retardsShexyo has over a million followers and makes tens of thousands a month from patreon bucks. Do you think anyone gives a shit?
>>7871005>average = talentpfffttthaahhaha dude i can buy a dog that's smarter than you.
>>7871007>Shexyo has over a million followers and makes tens of thousands a month from patreon bucks. Do you think anyone gives a shit?They don''t give a fuck because porn is not art lel
>>7871008It is average for you because you have it. Why do you think it is called anti-talent?
>oh it's the anti[HEADCANON]
>>7871004They never respond that! You just need 20 years and you'll work on blizzard, talent not needed
>>7871004Every art youtuber says they don't have talent, but they all went pro within a few years, that just proves that they have talent. There are many people that have grinded for the same amount of time they had and are nowhere near their level.
>>7870306Doing calue then color hsi with max color seems to be working pretty fine for the right one.
>>78710222 misplaced necks in the same thread
>>7871019>There are many people that have grinded for the same amount of time they hadI doubt that. Permabegschizo says he has 5 years but he's drawing barely 1 hour a day, meanwhile those guys have 5 years but drawing 8hours+ a day
>>7871023God that's so hot (the misplaced necks, not your drawing)
>>7871030fuck off lmao
>>7871023Ye, that's fair. Thanks. Originally i started with trying to get the head shapes/facial features right with the grind (had either too vertical or orizontal face), but I'll try to pay more attention to the necks.
>>7870754>>7870797more
>>7870772>>7870639
is it pointless to draw if I'm not white or asian?I think the reason I can't learn anything is beyond my efforts.
>>7871019I've said this before, when you see some nigga with a good drawing saying "it's my first weekie teeheh :P :>" they have a whole background of doodles since childhood, they just start counting when they start taking it serious
>>7870879lol, wrong, and my work even made it to the OP recently. >>7859474
>>7870879Know your place permabeg.
>>7871059very cool, which traced ai sloppa is yours in that op?
>>7870639The hell is going on here? The guy you're replying to with the mechs drawn with wobbly lines is obviously not this Kaj guy
studies>>7871047yourea penis expert
>>7870666>AI AI AIGod you street shitting Dalits are fucking annoying.
>>7870666>a bunch of companies with garbage reputations used AI! See it's the future!It's hard to understate just how retarded you are.
>>7870724Go back a few steps until you find a point where you can do itGrind the simplified skullThen add the glabella to the skullGrind more then add glabella + eyes socketsetc...
>>7871008>this was the manga torulene was copying for his lolis
>JUST DRAW SAAR>SAAR I AM DRAWINGWhat should I start learning to draw that will make me quit entirely?
>>7871099What porn fetish do you detest the most? Study that.
>>7871098Yeah everyone knows Toru is the one with a huge inflated ego mocking everyone here. Whats new?
Why is "Fun with a pencil" a beg trap?
>>7871099see >>7870768
>>7871100Anything sexual involving gore
And it is DONE. Oh my fucking god you guys have no idea how much time I put into this.
>>7871109I don't think I'll ever have the patience to do hatching like this
>>7871109awesomedo you have any artists or books you learned to ink like that from?
>>7871107Great, you're now a guro artist :)
>>7871104>wants to learn how to draw cute anime girls>picks up a book teaching how to draw fugly outdated western cartoons
motorcycle study from ref
>>7871118Wheels look a bit flat/delated brah. Also please draw treads on the wheels too.
>>7871117>watch chommang video on heads>says he uses loomis' technique>watch hide channel video on heads>says he uses loomis' technique
>>7871118Wheels are such a filter for me. Even though they're just cylinders the margin for error is tiny
>>7871120Then why are you watching them, go have fun with a pencil and see how that works out, retard,
>>7871119its a racing motorcycle it doesnt have tire treads
>>7871112Very few do…>>7871114Thanks.Alphonso Dunn’s books are great. Feel how you want about his art but he’s a damn good teacher. Also just mileage and experimenting with different types of pens.
>>7871121I struggle with wheels too. I think the back one looks pretty good though
>>7871055can someone answer me
>>7871148Yeah:retard
>>7871148Just focus on being good in this life and you'll be reincarnated as a higher lifeform next time, Pritesh.
>>7871148Most artists doing work online nowadays are brown. Make of that what you wish.
>>7871148Ofc not. DaVinci wasn’t even white
Hard Working people always get results. It's mostly Asians and Browns because we get shit done.
>>7870667Crits are appreciated :>Is there anything I should focus on in particular for my next drawing?
>>7870667Work on the ass . It’s not “flowing” correctly
>>7871132>no treadNo look more closely, brah.
i feel like i've bungled this one alreadyreally struggling to think about how to depict the values of the beak as well as gradate them>ref: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/006_Toco_toucan_in_Encontro_das_%C3%81guas_State_Park_Photo_by_Giles_Laurent.jpg
>>7871173If you think it's unsalvagable then now's the time to experiment freely
>>7871173This is how I’d go about it. Just start at the tip of the beak with a line, and darken it from there by adding more and more lines at the tip and fewer as it gradates into lighter values. I would make the black parts of the beak just straight black
>>7871183bird and frog general
>>7871185As it should be
>>7871183thanks. i think i'm just conflicted about putting it down like so since i've already established the pupil as the darkest value of the subject so far
>>7871189No problem. if you’re hesitant don’t be afraid to just get a spare piece of paper and experiment there so that when you do commit, you’ll know what does/doesn’t look good. Good luck
How are people on this board recognizable to the point of having names wtf
>>7871198its an art board with a small userbase, you can easily identify someone by their current skill and style. and some shared their social at some point
Quick study done.
>>7871202Cute, keep it up. Blog?
>>7871198I wish i could lick deer's body over and over, the skin looks like porcelain omg
>>7871204she's in a vc with me rn :)
>>7871205NYOOOOOOOOOOO
>>7871202gonna need a verdict from misaligned neck noticer anon on this one
>>7871203Thanks! No blog, just this one.
>>7871172cool, now mark the treads on my actual ref
>>7871207No need for a verdict; I plead guilty. You got me.
>>7871198Half of /ic/'s residents are just non-artists who stalk artists that they like or hate.
>>7871202ceo of symbol drawing faces
>>7871214Still better than PBS
>>7871213Half? More like 3/4
>>7871210Cool, now redraw the bike so its less wonky. ;)
>>7871202The clothing on the torso specifically is the best part of this and reads pretty well. There's lots of places to improve, but be much more careful when working on the face. Those eyebrows specifically are super weird and nearly form a unibrow, and you have a tendency in all of your drawings to make the head/cheek too wide on the foreshortened side of the head
>>7871205NTR end anon already by taking deer home
>>7871229Thanks for the detailed critique; it means a lot.
>>7871099Do you still want to be accountability buddies?
>>7871153Brown as in south american/hispanic or from SEA, not brown as in Indian. I have no idea why but I literally know 0 indian artists who have a large online following.
>>7871239KeshArt comes to mind for someone with a large following but that's about it for me
>>7871239I'm Hispanic. so theere's hope for me?I should try reading for once, a book that is. Because I can't learn anything and it's driving me insane. thank you thread
>>7871243Several artists I follow and adore are LatAm.
>>7871243There’s always hopes for Hispanics
>>7871244>>7871247Thank you. I'm very happy for my white friends and drawing posters. I wish you the best this 2026.
>>7871222no
>>7871243Since you feel the need to ask this retarded question, the truth is that you're probably too low IQ to learn how to draw.
the more i draw the more im convinced i cannot draw at all. you step outside your comfort zone topics once and realize you suck at everything. truly debilitating
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>>7871256I think this feeling gets worse and worse the better you become
>>7871256The more you draw the better you get. Just keep going.
>>7871265This is true up to a point, but eventually you'll need very strong self critique skills or have a good mentor who's willing to babysit you to make more gains
>>7871271Critique is absolutely important no doubt, which is why you should post your work. You don’t need to be babysat. You can 100% teach art to yourself. You can learn art on YouTube alone + constructive critique from others
Man my eye suck so much
>>7871275>You can 100% teach art to yourself.Let's ask a knuckle-dragging who can't self-crit like talentschizo if this is true.
https://huggingface.co/spaces/linoyts/Qwen-Image-Edit-AnglesNew method of getting references just dropped
>>7871282We need at least 5 threads on the catalog about this.
>>7871278Do some studies of good artists and learn how they draw eyes. If you don't have any artists in mind just search pinterest for realism/semi-realism portraits.
>>7871289I was talking but measuring stuff, I think the face is probably the best part, the pelvis and abdomen feels very off compared to the reference
>>7871290>measuring stuffSorry but if you cant measure by eye youARE FUCKED.
>>7869455Call me retarded but I saw this iridescent skin tutorial and I can’t understand how they pull it off at the end, specially with different skin colors. All I want is painting iridescent skin
>>7871292retard
go easy on me, i almost never work with colour
Experimenting with tones.
>>7870639Thank you. This is great. The guy you are replying to isn't me, though. And yes, I absolutely suck at drawing female faces. It's a complete coinflip if the face turns out good or not. Line weight is an issue, I'm using a 13-year-old tablet, and it doesn't really register pressure that well. I just got a new tablet for free, but I'm too used to drawing on a monitor that it might take some time until I decide to switch, but after a couple of tests the difference is crazy on the pressure sensitivity. >Weirdly enough, some of your older work is sometimes better than your newer work in terms of this aspects. Hard agree. I haven't created anything proper in the last two years. Mostly just practice. Guess it's back to drawing yoked monsters/demons and practicing drawing females. :) Thanks for taking the time! Great stuff, really appreciate it. Gave me some superb motivation.Extra yoked guy attached.
>>7871327>The guy you are replying to isn't me, though.thats right, lol. it was me. i just liked the critique you gave hagström and wanted to know if you could maybe give a similar sort of critique on my work.
>>7871252You can see it right? The motorcycle reference is much wider and more from the side than in your drawing, its far too compressed. You fucked up the perspective and proportions, try measuring next time you do a photo copy
>>7871332its not a photo copy i just tried to draw the motorcycle. idgaf if the perspective is changed. also are you still mad that you didnt know racing motorcycles have no treads? get a life dumb faggot
>>7871322I like it. It looks cool
>>7871334>thinking that people are mad for pointing out obvious mistakes after finding your referenceI think you shouldn't post on an /ic/ thread for crit if you don't give a fuck about the fundamentals
>>7871337im of the opinion that measuring when drawing from ref is worthless. you have to learn to eyeball that shit or its worthless. so if someone tells me to start "measuring" he can go suck a dick
>>7871338>measuring drawing from ref is worthless>just eyeball itHmm, it doesn't seem to be working out very well for you so far though. You do you, I guess.
>>7871339i spent like an hour and a half on this. if i start measuring and constructing with vanishing points its at minimum a 6 hour job. thats just not how i intend to spend my time. i think i did a decent enough job on the main body, the wheels suck, i do agree on that
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>>7871253hahhaahAHAHAH it's funny cause it's true.
>>7871262pretty coolforgot how spiky lightning's hair was
>>7871360one eye on the streets
I draw
>>7870586Another one down
Decided to sit down for a fun sesh instead of studying and it just reinforced how badly I need to study. I'm terrible at perspective and anatomy, and my bad line confidence always leaves me with an over-erased mess.
>>7871372Lovely
>have a bunch of ideas I want to put to paper>too scared of failure to start so I just go deeper into the studylet holeIs there an art book on how to stop being a faggot
>>7871381Put it to paper, see what went wrong, study from there
>>7871374okay, finally putting some effort into anatomy. This is the best anatomy work I've done so far, but it still feels flat and incorrect and I'm finding it hard to understand why.
>>7871390Anatomy is essentially two things: bone and muscle. That’s it. However as the artist you have tremendous freedom with how you choose to express this. The issue with your drawing is that it lacks the presence of logical anatomical knowledge such as the lack of presence of the neck, symbol drawn shoulders, etc. Try to find a figure drawing teacher that clicks with you stylistically or methodically and go from there by studying their work, how they construct, how they draw body parts; etc
>>7871399I see, thanks for this. I drew it without reference, which I kind of knew was a terrible idea, but I guess it's helpful sometimes to do a shoddy job and learn from your mistakes. It's definitely highlighted for me that I don't really understand how necks or shoulders work.
I love big sketchbook...
>>7871406Lol anon I’ve been at it for years and I still don’t truly “understand” the shoulders, it’s gonna take time
>>7871409I really like how you paint animals
First time ever making an attempt. Did the draw the guy upside down thing. Hopefully this will be fun to look at down the line i hope. Any recommendations on what to do next? Was going to star with the Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain book.
>>7871381If you're a studylet then you've already overcome an arguably stronger fear of failure before as someone starting from zero. You don't have much choice but to push through and inevitably fail unless you're satisfied with doing studies all the time
>>7871092It all falls apart when I try to keep track of perspective on all the different features. Like I can construct the basic shape but then be absolute dogshit at the next step. Here I tried to add shading to make myself be more aware of forms but it still looks fucked
>>7871431Drawing on the Right Side is decent to start, the main thing it will teach is how to observe and replicate what you're seeing. I've heard good things about Keys to Drawing but never done read it myself.Whatever book or course you do, don't just go through the exercises and call it done. Try to apply the methods to other things, I'd recommend finding an artist that you like and that draws things you'd like to draw and trying to recreate their drawings.
>>7871437I wish I had like a schedule or something to follow. I guess this is why people go to school for stuff like this. Im prepared to be spending at minimum an hour a day doing this stuff. Did the same thing learning guitar and fighting games so i know I have it in me to tough it out. Always wished I was able to draw so I figured its about time I just learn it. and deal with sucking lol.Should I be drawing the upside down guy everyday? Or like are these books gonna give me things I should be doing/practicing?I dont know what youd call it but I really like stuff like the picrel. Not just stuff form that card game but whatever that style is, its almost like older painting or something? Idk what youd call it.
My doodles always turn out more appealing than my high-effort stuff>>7871435Try studying how light and shadow behave on real skulls.
>>7871445I think you'd like picrel.
>>7871452Oh cool Ill check it out once im done with the brain book. I think you're supposed to spend about a month going through it but the person writing the book makes it sounds like once you master whats in the book you should have a decent grasp on the fundamentals. Thanks for the recommendation though ill definitely check it out.
EVERYTHING I DRAW IS FUCKING DOGSHIT.LINES ARE SHITFACES ARE SHITSHAPES ARE SHITEVERYTHING IS SHIT.GOD MADE ME UNFINISHED.
>>7871454Haven't seen a filthy frank reference in a while.
>>7871450I am getting bored and tired of skulls, probably going to try to drag myself through the rest of the course then try actually drawing something for myself then revisiting again later.
>>7871431start herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f312sDwg770&list=PLqR-aNpyEIVd91GCwsyOS3oRn6eoRhyio&index=1
>>7871047today i study some shading, digital drawing feels really good, better than trad.
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>>7871479>>7871480> digital drawing feels really good, better than tradreally nice, for me it’s the opposite
>>7871480>>7871479looks rlly good>>7871047this made me erect>>7870927based drawing xD'also indeed >3
>>7871360based lightning bro>forgot how spiky lightning's hair wasyeah i feel like I smoothed out her hair a little much in mine
>>7871506thanks
poop
>>7871480the eyeballs itself have a much deeper shade in the ref
>>7871535good poophere's the reminder to myself to do the gesture BEFORE construction
>>7871536yeah i dont know how to do that without making it look dirty.
>>7871537 nice shapes
Should I use a built in perspective tool or should I learn how to draw the grid out myself?
>>7871565Look at any pro artist timelapse and only the absolute bestest freaks soloing entire anitmation sequences rawdog it. The rest use grids or models.
>>7871568>The rest use grids or models.perspective tools being put on the same level as 3d models are honestly making me want to use them less
>>7871565Making your "own grid" allows you to cheat a little bit and force the visual angle of your ideas, wich wouldn't work otherwise using precise grid tools. Like kim Jung Gi did, most of his stuff uses forced made up perspective, cheating your eye to accept that forced angle because it looks appealing.
>>7869455How can i get the understanding/feels of shoulders?
>>7871569Bro every single fucking great artist from Renaissance onwards used tools. You are fucking yourself over for no reason.Da Vinci had an army of actors he used to get every single reference he wanted from any angle he wanted. Now you can have it on the palm of your hand.
>>7871579>>7871569>>7871565To add, even Robertson who larps as a human CAD program and FUCKING SHILLS NFTS prefers to just trace 3d models of cars.
>>7871579>Bro every single fucking great artist from Renaissance onwards used toolsI understand the sentiment but stuff like tracing over 3D models seem like a step beyond things like measuring devices or references>>7871570interesting, right now im focusing on just figuring out perspective at a really basic level. My main fear was that using the tool would rob me of the ability to learn how to "intuit" perspective on something small like a single figure drawing. and the main reason i'm even considering the tool is because actually drawing the perspective grid is kicking my ass, i've always been bad at very "technical" drawings with grids and tons of straight lines
>>7871578Drawing from life is a good way
>>7871578Talent
>>7871480excellent stuff.>>7871424saw her on twitter. adorable>>7870927hah! the fathers day bit is humoring me a lot. peril, if I dare may, could I request a drawing from you sometime? id happy to do a trade! it's of a man, though>>7870596wonderful cock abomination>>7870527god so much emotion, amazing
Why am I so retarded would i ever get 3d?
>>7871608You're getting there, it just takes a lot of mileage
>>7871602Very pretty
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>>787059610/10 makes me think of a persona XDand same, am a big fan of that anons workhe fits well with the themes you make>>7869768my blind ass glossed overt this one somehowstunning work
1 hour study from ref
>>7871022The marathon's capstone. This took basically the entirety of saturday. Gotta rest my hand now lmao.
>>7871631Here's the full marathon. Started on the 21st and finished today.Not doing this marathon stuff for a while though that's for sure.
I wish I had any talent for art. I am not improving at all.
>>7871647dont give up my friendo. Art is worth the hardship & self-doubt
>>7871647Read Loomis
Study.
>>7871647see >>7871004
The camera girl from that other thread
>>7871602>hah! the fathers day bit is humoring me a lot. peril, if I dare may, could I request a drawing from you sometime? id happy to do a trade! it's of a man, thoughThanks Deer! You can request whatever you want, the problem is that I only use this site, so it has to be a "public" request lol. I don't mess with discord, or any other social. And about the man thing, if it is gay stuff "man on man", I personally avoid drawing that, unless there's some tormenting angle involved lol. Like in the prison story, there will be a lot of man on man "handling" and shit, but not gay intercourse. I did a quickie for you on picrel.>>7871622>10/10 makes me think of a persona XD>and same, am a big fan of that anons work>he fits well with the themes you makeThank you Monka!!! Yeah, probably I may be using other artists styles. I already admitted that I try to copy Roninsong, and Balsamique's styles, also there's another French artist, that I can't remember his name, but I take cues from whatever artist I find even if he did just a few pieces, I take something from it lol >>7871656I love your style so mmmmuch....>>7871640This is crazy, wow...>>7871545Nice rendering style>>7871535I'm glad to see your beautiful lines again!>>7871324Is there a general summary of the plot for this Story? >>7871322Your designs and line work are AMAZING. Now the way you color it, it makes it really hard to see the design, it is one blob of color.. Maybe if you de-saturate that blue the design can shine as it should. Usually de-saturating colors always works as a "quick fix" >>7871109Freaking cool
>>7871640I love your lines, what brushes do you use?
>>7871670tbf i do the same, i have my own style but thats the result of everything i like in other peoples worksand np :3very nice deerman drawing btw
>>7871670thank you so much for the quickie , it's adorable and lovely and i love his expression and ears so much (: nice caption as well, my request was actually sfw in nature, i was just going to ask to see a quick harry du bois in your style out of curiosity xD thank you so much for the quickie friend! egil would actually be into fearing for his wellness and get off on stuff like that, but slavery would scare him far too much, so it would be a bit of a crisis on getting off on being afraid and disgust and terror as the high of being afraid ceases, lol, and then he'd be horrified and beg
What's a good way to learn to draw figures? I'm doing boxes/cylinders and got okay at them, I can make it look believable enough, I'm doing some gesture as well in addition to just drawing/doodling.I want to be able to draw realistic and stylized figures eventually... Is it just learning values/anatomy and then going at it?
>>7871674All in Krita. "Pencil-2 Large 4b" at the start, then switched over to "ink gpen 25" for later linework and hatching (good way to also train pressure control)For shading and color, i used the same ink gpen to draw the outline then magicwand->grow selection and then filled it.For the melting shadows, i drew the shape with the same pen then used "Basic mix Soft" set to the base value/greyscale so it blends the shadows to the base value.Did values first, then experimented with color HSI over the values to get the colors i wanted for the final few.
AAAAIIIIIEEEE BWO YOUR TALENT
>>7871634No rules, only tools
>>7871535Give me your BLOG nigger so I we can draw together on discord and
anyways more drawing
do you guys playing games?pic is frm pinterest
>>7871713apple?
>>7871683Thanks deer! Here you have your Harry, sorry, I really don't have a proper style. I would say it is an "utilitarian style". I just cut corners to portray the idea as fast and visually readable as possible. I hope you like it.>>7871678Thank you Monka!That's an adorable and beautiful little piece!
>>7871729it's fantastic! thank you so much, exactly what I wanted, thank you for fulfilling the request, and him being a bit bloody is a wonderful bonus! thank you perilsenpai>>7871656i really like when you use colored shadows>>7871618thank you! >>7871678cute
>>7871729lovely harry art :3> I really don't have a proper style.i dont know, whenever i see ur stuff i immediately know its you,(in a good way)also thank you :3>>7871730thanksies :DD
what do i do with this area
HELPMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>7869455Progress, I feel like I'm spending too much time on this drawing.
>>7871766spend less. Checked.
>>7871763have you tried having fun?
>>7871771Hmm, this alleviate the issue any? If not I'd appreciate a redline or highlight
Where the fuck is everyone?
I just kinda slapped some colors down and eyeballed a composition then I carved some people out of it. I like the poses and colors, but the ground feels empty. I don't want to add too many hard lines or objects as I want to keep the ethereal feeling, so I'm thinking like a pattern or texture. Are there any glaring mistakes that anybody can see before I start to get into a rough draft phase?
>>7871723GIVE ME YOUR BLOG SCREENSHOTTO SAN OR ILL KILL YOU >:c
Today’s figure and perspective practice
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>>7871812
>>7871802monkeying around>>7871805apple please>>7871535so soft <3
>>7871718holy GEM thanks for the tip
>>7871849Didnt know you were into incest. Damn.
>>7871718interesting seeing this now since the trylsc study anon >>7870425 also mentioned how important this part of the face
>>7871853i just b drawin shit
>>7871858nose too high
>>7869970I found it funny how almost every video in his course starts off with him saying its going to be boring but pls bear with me.
>>7871723>>7871847Who the fuck is apple??
>>7870498I post the pages on my DA (Zikari007) as I make them. But it will take me years to finish it for real. I'm inly made 12 pages so far.
Are there any scans of tomfoxdraws' book that don't have warped pages?
>>7871804Check the girl's thigh on the left again, I think it's a bit short. That composition and those colors are awesome btw
some fun with ballpoint copying from comics
>>7871670>Is there a general summary of the plot for this StoryYeah. It's pretty straight forward. >Research spaceship crashes on arctic planet that is used as refugee for all sorts of outlaws>Three mercenaries (The ones shown) get hired to go to the spaceship wreck and recover the data that went down with it>While inside the wreck they get found by a gang of scavengers/bandits and they have to fight their way out of the ship
>>7871888yeah here's a digital riphttps://files.catbox.moe/y3dtrb.cbz
I drew grapes
cursed image
>>7871850took back the compliment so hard they deleted the post>>7871670jesus christ>>7871656awoga>>7871651its lowkey not
>>7871749idk what was the problem but...
>>7871943the heel felt a bit off
>>7871631This one is weird. Are these supposed to be tests to see if wen can tell that it's AI? The right side is not connected to the lower body, lowerbody is literally on another plane of existence. I don't trust these drawings, there's a clear difference between all the garbage at the top and the shading/coloring on this one.
Looking for a resource that will help me understand the structure and how to draw the pelvic area. I feel ok with the head and upper torso but as soon as that pesky pelvis enters the composition everything falls apart. I need to fix this as a high priority otherwise drawing will continue to suck for me. Anyone got anything?
>>7872034>Anyone got anything?I think you know the answer
>>7871545jesus christ lineart is fucking difficult.
got some snow so here are some silly snow/cold weather related doodles
>>7872034Unironically loomis
I did an ugly goblin
>>7872118You can do better
>>7872118Why did you trace a pic of deersis?
>>7871948>>7871957i dont even know what you changed in either of these
>>7871640Absolutely brilliant amount of effort. Fantastic work, anon. These are some great studies.>>7871729Always great stuff, superstar.>>7871895I do own a digital version of the book I bought on Amazon, which I then manually downloaded each page, and sliced the copyright protection-segements through Affinity Designer to fix it. I don't know how to best share it though. Might make a link to a mega drive.>>7871919I think it's cute.>>7872043Lineart is difficult, yeah. I like yours, though. It reminds me a lot of terada katsuya sketches and drawings.
>>7872143Mega, gofile, or catbox are generally used for pirated stuff around here.
>>7872129Deersis? I was using a reference from some guy called gregoryguyy
>>7872147Great, thanks. catbox didn't work for me, but gofile did. To anyone interested, here's a pdf version of the book: https://gofile.io/d/SuHEDd
>>7872129her cute belly is not that big
>>7872162i wish it was. i have the hardened muscular kind of fat abdomen of the peasantry, not soft and luxurious >>7872143wow, fantastic lines and energy >>7872043the line art is good, my crit is change the values of your rendering because right now it's a bit muddy/the light area looks too cold. just play with the balance >>7871943noice
>>7872043This was a failure, tomorrow i will try again, the drawing is good but i cant fucking paint even if my life depended on it, does anyone know any good tutorial or something, please share.
>people always point out that my proportions are always a little fucked>specifically the arm length>notice it too, with the final piece normally being a little off because of it>have no idea whats happening because I normally check irl where the arm would end up in certain positions>ff to today>wow anon your wingspan is huge you should play basketballwell shit now what
Not a study this time.
I honestly feel retarded as hell learning a new skill like drawing.It feels like I forgot how to "learn" things by myself, I looks at guides and courses and unless they explain things in detail and say exactly what to do I'm completely lost on what / how / where to learn things.It's easy to give up but I don't want to.
>>7872176Wait what the fuck Doll is actually making sexy cute faces now?!
>>7870689>>7870347Frenchie, how do you draw your lineart?
>>7872120Explain
>>7871694I'd love to know this too
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>>7872151>>7871895Thanks bros. This book is such a gem and doesn't get rec'd enough. I'm looking forward to his clothes book that's coming out soon
>>7872192It's time to do hand studies. For feminine animu hands sailor moon hands are a really good study source.
>Resting up
>>7872239she has elephant's foot
>>7872151What should you learn before starting this book? I'm sure it's not for gigabegs, right?
>>7872226> It's time to do hand studiesTotally agreed. Thanks for the animu source.
>>7872240she is supposed to have her feet leaning towards each other. it was difficult to try draw
>>7872176Work on expressions and likeness. Ditch studying your namesake unless you like that lifeless soulless gaze.
>>7872192damn it I was holding out hope that you didn't want to fuck the anime child how naive of me
>>7872056
Got back into Deadlock
>>7872262wood smash that loli
>>7872262hot musky sweaty sex with silver
week 1 of evistons beg course, wish I would know where to keep going after the circles though
>>7872271Try your best to copy his rendering and details by using your sketch as a guide
>>7869564based
>>7872272I gotta be honest I have no idea how to do that. I don't understand how people use digital drawing tools I think. Doing some light shading is doable for me with a pencil and works kinda okay-ish, but everything turns out all weird digitally.I feel like drawing on a tablet is increasing the difficulty of all this by alot.
>>7872205not enough saggy tit>>7872239but where is the foot sole?
>>7872280man my attempt wasn't very good
>>7872281you're right. her foot sole should be showing more thereI haven't really drawn feet from below that much :D
today's copy study. I'm upset I can't (you) every post I liked in this thread>>7872151I expected you to study tomfoxdraws, it really shows in your art. though his tendency to leave small hatchings all over his figs is very unappealing to me. he said himself that less is more, I don't get it>>7871656surprisingly messy for the kind of art you usually post>>7871631massive loss of appeal from left to right. the smaller eyes stand out to me most
>>7872303I love you appealchad.
>>7872309?
>>7870331Keys to Drawing Project 2 C: Part 1Six Figure DrawingsI feel as if I didn't do them right, but this is probably my first serious attempt at learning how to draw correctly, so this is pretty much my first attempt at doing gesture drawings
>>7872306faggot
>>7872262do you only draw the same body doing the same pose
>>7872306gaylord
>>7872314Part 2: Three Connected Line Drawings2 minutes each
bweeehhh
>>7872292the morpho books is a good way to start with, :3they can be found pretty easily on e-hentaifeet are pretty hard, but this should help you hopefully
So if I want to paint war scenes I have to study gore huh...
nother bath drawingmaybe after tomorrow, I'll start working on keys to drawing and perspective made easy. I could really do with actual effort towards improvement. I do also think I've improved somewhat in the past year
>>7872328fujochan dot org slash ex has a guro thread with some pretty good references
>>7872329The penis base is way too low, other than that, looks good.
>>7872331yikes, but I want to draw realistically with oil paints and such. I don't think I can do it honestly. Don't have a strong heart for it
>>7872319yes
I tried putting Gustav Klimt's The Kiss onto a keychain. Came out kinda looking like formless blobs tho.
>>7872314theyre awesome
>>7872332thanks nonny>>7872333oh idk I like it, it's cathartic. very pretty and macabre
>>7872321Part 3 of Keys to Drawing: Project 2 - C - Free Hand Drawing. A "five minute burn" of whatever is in the corner of my room. The book said not to worry about accuracy and to go as fast as possible. I may try it again, because I could have gotten more stuff down.>>7872345Did you do all those in a minute? Looks like I've got a long way to go.
>>7871892im messing up proportions alot...
>>7872204I try to vary the width of the lines; the contour lines of the silhouette and those against the light are thicker, while the lines of folds in clothing and strands of hair are thin. Intersections of lines also tend to be thicker at the point where they meet.But really, I only improved my linework significantly after I started studying manga/doujin pages in the original full resolution(like picrel)Trace some pages and you will get the feeling of it.
>>7872344sovl. if I was a chick and you gifted this to me I'd blow you
>>7872195not quite, but I'm getting there>>7872251I love the creepy lifeless gaze of dolls, as a kid I would fantasize about being locked in a gypsy wagon full of those creepy old dolls, so I don't think I'll stop studying them any time soon.
>>7872403Finally, a good drawing.
>>7871322Pretty solid mech, the only thing I would recommend if you are trying to make it look like its covered in rust/corrosion spots is to maybe use more red, orange and yellow tones or greens (like in bronze or brass), otherwise it just looks like it has shit smeared on.Maybe also play with textures or add broken off, damaged bits around those areas like in pic related. Hope that helps.
>>7872355i did them in 30 minutes>>7872359dont cuve the lower eyelid, thats not how it works
>>7871893Cool premise! Though I think those characters should look much more "seasoned" and rough to look the part. That seems to be a suicide mission, they look young and inexperienced.. Maybe they don't know what they're getting into... See?, I'm already getting myself immersed into the plot.. lol>>7872143>Always great stuff, superstar.Thank you so much Professor! It gives me anxiety when people like you praises me, since I draw all these "questionable" stuff... t-thanks....>>7871943>jesus christ >=)>>7872239Looking cute as usual>>7872281Nice Compo!!>>7872303You seemingly make everything look better so effortlessly >>7872399Fucking hot shit, you're the best>>7871737>lovely harry art :3THANK YOU!>>7871730>it's fantastic!Thank you so much It was fun!
>>7872403As a fellow dollfag I feel like you could include the physical feature of doll eyes being set back in their head to really emphasize the doll eyes. I think there's some ambiguity to your stuff because the pupils are so doll-like but the rest of the face doesn't quite share that level of stylization, which makes it unclear whether it's intentional or not.
>>7872417thanks. I think the fox you drew is missing butt fangs
>>7872442guy on the top left is cute
>>7872399I don't enjoy blowjobs or women, so a blowjob from a woman sounds like torture, but thank you anyway.
>>7872421I've tried learning less anime-like doll faces but it's harder to make them look good >>>/i/826101
I CANT FUCKINGR DRAW.
I'm a bit tired of colorful stuff, gonna try more cool/discrete/somber palette next...
>>7872462bweh bweeh
had almost no energy to draw today
study
Rough sketch>>7872384holy cute nero
>>7872515Needs to be more bratty. At least 150% more.
>>7872399I love you appealchad.>>7872384I meant your settings mostly, Aliasing, no pressure, brush pen, etc.
>>7872522nigger
>>7872519Will look into this o7
>>7872524Why are you being mean to me? Cant a man express his love for art?
>>7872411I AM RETARDED
Trying something a little different
this sucks
>>7872425Yeah, I also fucked up the hand holding the rifle detail. Quick fix. I wasn't paying much attention, I was making a thing on /fig/ >>7872540>>7872539Nah, that's awesome, it perfectly portrays the idea. That's a complete comic panel, you could keep going with the story and it will visually work absolutely fine. I wish people could just doodle stories and come up with fun and exciting stuff
>>7872436Nice anatomy>>7872531Nice, top left is best imo. Some of the eyes here a little wonky but I can see definite appeal.
>>7872545nobody wants to read an ugly comic
>>7872303here's the full canvas. I'm thinking I should be doing this until it doesn't take me 10+ tries to make a decent copy>>7872524have you become my dedicated schizo? I'm flattered>>7872514what's the ref
>>7872569Love your work mang. Keep it up.
>>7872569>what's the refhttps://x.com/i/status/2017266806742798514
>>7872571zamn...
posing's stiff but I attempted color theory
I think i got the base rough figured out for the most part. It turns out i was subconsciously doing a kind of 4 point perspective because it felt right but I didn't realize it until I was like hmm, this all feels awfully aligned. So I guess before I get into the rough, it's time to put my construction and perspective to the test and do a rough overlay that is in alignment with the perspective. I'm gonna fucking kms but im pretty proud of how this is coming out so far.
can you all stop being better than me? it hurt my feelings
>>7872262God I just fall in love with your style everytime. Something about the big legs just scratches the brain so good
Messing around>>7872553Thanks
Is this le good or le bad(used too much water on the sky and didnt fill in color properly)
>>7872623What I was copying
>>7872399what was I thinking when I drew this? why are her ankles broken. her heels should be up. was I so impatient to reply to the keychain post that I neglected basic anatomy? embarrassing>>7872620agreed
>>7872625Hey it's porn. It doesn't need to anatomically correct, it just needs to be hot
>>7872623I really like how you did the clouds.But a lot of the composition was lost. The trees are all similar sizes, and the hills are flattened into two sets of distances. Because of those changes the sense of depth is less.
>>7872417>That seems to be a suicide missionFor regular people, maybe. They may look young, but don't judge a book by it's cover. When you see them in action you'll get it. Also, cool drawing! Her Lichihara, but the other call her Chi-Chi!
>>7872642Her name is*
huntresssss wizarddd
added another follow to the list of artists I like. once again I am shown that good artists are NOT bound by style. they have a core skillset that allows them to draw however they feel like. this is why when people ask "post art you'd like yours to be" it stunlocks me. I will never reach this level of freedom
>>7872645Head's pretty solid, especially the leaves. The body, particularly the lower half, is unappealing and anatomically shoddy.
>>7872647Name of the artist on the left?
>>7872651it's the same artist. that was the point of my post.hvmator on instagram, might go by the same name on other platforms
>>7872649lol idk anatomy that's why i guess
>>7872655worst thing you can do is guess because it will always look weird
>>7872657nta but if you have a decent sense of appeal you can trial&error some parts until they 'appear' good despite being anatomically wonky
>>7872659I take back what I said, it helps to know anatomy but this is lowkey true, I know a couple people that don't know anatomy well but just glaze it over with appeal
>>7872586Looks very cool but messy in a way that feels wrong. Can't quiet put my finger on it.
>>7872675pixels make this ugly as hell
>>7872675pixelfag
>>7872675pixelchad
>>7872675pixel lines make this weird
Hello again, so this is day 3 for me. Working through the Drawing Brain book and these were the last two things I did. Idk if this is how you normally draw but the book has you draw when youre looking at the subject and you only look at the image to check the scale and stuff. I wasn't told to shade them but I figured I'd try since I haven't done it before. Anyways is there any kind of drill or anything I can do while working through this book? Any kind of practice I can start on now that ill be happy I did later? Thanks again for the help and suggestions.
>>7872690Stfu, let the plant CHAD pursue his dreams of becoming an aboreal environment GOD
>>7872690If i had natural talent I wouldnt be reading the book and trying to practice lol.
>>7872687are you underage? this is 18+ site you know?
>>7872693you're going to waste years of your life because of your delusional way of thinking. without talent no amount of books or practice can make you good at drawing.
>>7872694>>7872695Let the man draw geez lousie guys
>>7872690made me chuckle. you're the amusing kind of schizo
>>7872694not critique
>>7872690
>>7872704this is a meme
>>7872687I can't really give much advice since I'm beg myself, but I think it looks nice anon. Love me some onions
>>7872698Its fine, its all in good fun lol. If a little bit of shit talk was enough to get me to quit I'd probably have stopped after the book told me to draw a self portrait at the very beginning and it looked like something a preschooler would draw lol. Destroyed me ego. Someone who actually draws will give me some advice at some point I hope. I just think theres probably like daily stuff I should be doing for some long term gains.
>>7872675pixelGOD
>>7872706Ngl I only picked that stuff cause of the drill in the book, but I really enjoyed drawing them. I think im gonna practice doing more vegetation type stuff tomorrow.
>>7872687don't read that book. it's not good at all. you're reading that stupid old Stinky right? don'tstart with fun with pencil then keys to drawing or Proko beginner course you can find it in course thread search it. then copy morpho simplified anatomy like 100 times.
>>7872708>Thinks that the people crabbing him are trolling just for funBrother, people shit on anyone here just to make themselves feel better about their shitty drawings, it's not really in "good fun". Fuck em, those dorks have better things to be doing anyways
>>7872711No the book is actually pretty good. It definitely has helped me already. I have seen a lot of people saying its antiquated and a waste of time, but ive been helped enough by it that im gonna stick it out and finish it. Anything is better than when I started. Ill definitely check those things out after though. Thanks anon.>>7872712If thats the case then it doesnt matter anyways right? It can either be good fun, or its pointless bitter people just sucking lol. Either way I dont take stuff like that to heart. Gotta keep your head up bro and keep drawing.
>>7872721Me irl
>>7872721is this that attentionfag posting here again?
>>7872721you need God
>>7872729eyes are too ugly boobs don't match to the body. stiff pose. hands are ugly. so many things i cant point nowyou don't understand anatomy even a bit. i recommend to read a anatomy book.
that book is a meme.
>>7872729>>7872721can you pornfag/pedofag go to your own threads?
>>7872731What do you mean with "stiff"?
>>7872736Where the fuck do you think you are? Fuck off and larp as a concerned soccer mom on twitter zoomer. These pictures aren't even porn. Retarded zoombie. GTFO
>>7872729Concerning.
why are we bullying the /beg/s all of a sudden, you guys wake up on the wrong side of bed?
>>7872620>>7872625Thank you frens
>>7872758those are probably other bitter begs
I WILL repost in the new thread
>>7872773You wouldn’t dare.
FUCK
GOD MADE ME TALENTLESS TO MOCK ME.
>>7872790Good.
>>7872791NOT GOOD.
Thanks to /beg/ and /ic/, I can now sketch out twinks in just about an hour. Progress!I don't know if there's a way to draw the left, nose obscured eye better though. Looks way jumbled the longer you look at it. Any tips?
If I post my drawing right now, the thread will last for an hour or so in that uncertain state where everybody knows we'll get new thread but not right now so nobody posts anything serious and when the new thread is created it's too awkward to repost my pic because it was there for more than an hour and nobody replied to it.
Made another project from KtDNot sure why the author recommends contour drawing, while I constantly hear and read about doing construction while drawing people. I end up erasing and restating a look to get correct proportions. I think the end result looks passable, but I still managed to get certain things wrong and, to be fair, those drawings don't really look like the references. There are also issues like the nose being too small or back of the head being too far.Thoughts?
>>7872810Oh, and I still don't really get how to draw hair.
>>7872810There is no point in construction if you cannot land the proportions properly. Being able to accurately observe and put something on paper is the foundation of all drawing
>>7872729did you post this in the /draw/ thread?
Any decent guides for drawing clothes from a reference drawing? I am decent-ish at nude figure drawing, but it becomes very hard for me to visualize the form underneath when baggy clothes are added on top. Most references I can find online seem obsessed with folds and not actually constructing clothes on top of a figure.
Today I will... Just enjoy my gains and doodle some bullshit
>>7872845Yes
>>7872861If you can't extract the pose from a clothed image you're not good enough at nude figure drawing yet.
>>7872675Very cool
>>7872799why do zoomers use the word twink for any guy without facial hair
Did fun schizo kill himself on new year's eve? Haven't seen him around in a while.
>>7872914he suddenly started doing loomis blokes for a bit then disappeared
>>7872914>>7872915Maybe he started drawing.
>>7872915>>7872920So he started having fun... with a pencil
Oh man, trying to draw something digitally feels really bad, pencil feels alot more natural.I tried to draw a circle for a head first but I don't think it really helped in any way. Anyone have some advice on what to learn to draw characters?
>>7872884
copying bridgman
>>7872846On first glance, his left leg looks weirdly shorter than the right. I know that this is foreshortening, but that was my first impression.
>>7872677>>7872678>>7872686Why are troons and libtards like this?
>>7872877nah this is total bullshit
>>7872963I wanted to make it a little bit better with some colors, turns out I don't understand those in digital either, no idea why they turn out so weird, some brushed need insane pressure to be visible, others are too dark even normally. Maybe I should just buy some colored pencils
mecha sketches
Another study.
>>7872986Check brush settings, it's easiest to lay down flats using as plain a brush as possible, no opacity variance, no textures. That should be the base colors and then you can use a new layer to add your shading. Don't get discouraged when brushes or tools don't work how you like, the advantage of digital is how easy it is to undo a mistake and try again.
>>7872892Because some people think anybody is slightly androgynous is latently transexual or homosexual. This also isn't exclusive to zoomers as you see things like this said by many rightoids. Behavior that's more telling of the accusers than the accusees. Say what you will, but at least zoomers are more honest about their proclivities. Many rightoids are deeply deeply closeted homosexuals.
>>7873004thank you for the advice, anon. I'm gonna see if I can find some general tutorial for CSP, since I have no idea how to set texture and which brush is plain or not.
Have a feeling I won't finish this.
>>7872522brushes are the defaut real gpen from clip studioand a hard round brush with opacity by pressure(yt link)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZbJYAVmghkcanvas size 5000x3600 350dpi
>>7872995Gotta check the necks again and the ratio body-head
>>7872892Because all the post twink death twinks keep calling themselves twinks, thereby changing the definition over time.
>>7873006Twink doesn't necessarily mean gay, but it doesn't mean unmasculine man. It refers to boyish looking men, who may or may not be feminine or gay, with lithe bodies and young features. not just any random young guy>>7873026he's really good at yoga>>7873066>post gay deathwhich one lolarguably gay death happens at 16, given the preferences of most tops, and then again at like 25.
>>7872384I will try this
>>7872623Thats pretty good, i like it more than the original.
>>7872558i think this is better
not entirely happy how this turned out but i still had fun doing it
I am scared of drawing. Everything is bad.
God please grant me talent.
>>7872515A bit cleaner. Is the head too big? I struggle with proportion when pushing limbs forward. The arms are messed up too
probably messed up a lot of things here, the waist doesn't feel right but i rather like it. chibi is so fun to do>>7872623i like yours more, the clouds and ocean in particular look really nice
Reminder to get up and stretch, you've been hunched over for too long
why does this look weirdthey're both adults, the head size is the same, the body size is close enough that the nipples, belly button, and pelvis are at the same heights, the hands are the same size etc, but the guy on the right looks too shota and idk what to change to fix it
>>7873191and here's the ref I used somewhatmaybe it's the difference in eye size?
>>7873191Neat gay shota rape.
>>7873191The heads aren't the same size, the guy on the left has a head nearly twice as long
>>7873193I tried redoing the face and head with a bit more space I think this looks a lot better and not shota, right
>>7873195good observation, I think I was only considering widththe updated version has a longer face
can somebody pls make a new thread
This is the last thread, it's over
>>7872043more.
>>7873257is she okay??
>>7873257i really dont know how to color, i also tried to practice shading but my lack of skill drawing portraits kind of killed my will to learn today.
>>7873259no
>>7873260>>7873257>>7873257Kind of shit you would see painted on a Emperor's Children dreadnaught side.It is very skilled but WEW
>>7873263what do you think of the colors?
>>7873264Reminds me of art I would see in DnD social spheres and other nerd rp shit back in the days. Muted and nothing fancy but serviceable.I would compare it to mini painting where you want it to be clear and look good and not too laborious but nothing extravagant.Same for the inking. It is very heavy but good and varied just like old 40K art.
>>7873269I do like simple things but idk if its the way to go, i still have to master values so i can finally color my stuff properly, thanks for the feedback.
>>7873275Maybe you dont need to colour it. Your inking is really solid.
where's the new thread sirs
>tfw been drawing for 3 years, so I can't call myself beg to excuse my lack of skill, yet nowhere close to int eitherAh... So this is how it feels... To be a true permabeg
>>7872675I like it but it reminds me too much of that r9k psychopath
can somebody make the new one? I'd do it myself but I don't feel like editing the header image.
My rendering is dogshit and it bothers me that my immediate circle is too nice to say it to my fucking face.
NEW THREAD:>>7873389>>7873389>>7873389
after a year of trying due to retarded i'm finally good at drawing boxes. now, I have no desire to draw anything with these boxes. what to do I do?
>>7873347QRD on the r9k pyschopath? I'm out of the loop on the lore here