Uzbek edition>What language are you learning now?>Share your language learning experience!>Ask questions about your target languages!>Help people who don't want to learn a new language!>Make friends!Useful links:>Free language-learning book archive:https://mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw>Books on linguistics and language courses:https://mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:https://pastebin.com/ACEmVqua>Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30 plus languages:https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH>List of trackers for most language-learning packs:https://files.catbox.moe/nmrn8x.txt>Ukrainianon's list of commercial courses from rutracker.org:https://archive(dot)is/R2feT>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by familyhttps://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/>/lang/ inpoot torrentshttps://rentry.org/inpootFAQ U:>How do I learn Uzbek? What is the best way to learn it? How should I improve on certain aspects?Duolingo>Should I learn Uzbek so I can learn lang X?Yes>What is the most useful language?Uzbek>What language should I learn?UzbekOld>>200109202
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>>200151898men özbekçe konuşabiliyorum
>Uzbek edition
never trust uzbeks
I've always had a retarded draw towards learning a Turkic languageI studied Turkish for 2 weeks once, that was interesting
bimp
>>200153953What did they do to you, so you distrust them so much?
>>200153953I love samsa and plov
God I need to get my passive vocabulary to 25000 wordsI need to be slightly better than the average native speaker
>>200156872Plov and lagman are the only things they're good at. Still, around uzbeks never relax
Does Uzbek even have Kunşikter?
>>200157851For an Aussie, your English seems very good.
>>200158595Lmao I was going to write in that post that I'm having to learn some English words in order to learn TL words but decided against itIt's embarrassing
I just made an anki card for the word 'screwdriver' What are some common words which you only recently encountered?
>>200158856screwdriver is not a common word
>>200158856suprachiasmatic
i wanna learn czechwhy no czech general?
>>200160862/icy/There are very few czech posters there thoughever
Why aren't you learning a?
Every modern language is corrupted.In order to have clarity of mind, you have to learn an ancient language and then constantly think in that language
How to stop speaking Portuñol and start speaking Spanish? I went to visit Portugal for a day and I ended up speaking some ghastly Portuñol and then just gave up and spoke Spanish to the locals.
>>200164029>spoke Spanish to the localsOof. Better to just speak English here tbhf
I want to learn Spanish but I cannot find any resources
>>200151898Question for the bilingual anons, I've been watch tons of videos in Spanish and I can understand most of what is being said some videos, but can get pretty confused with others, all of it is being watched with Spanish subtitles on of course. I was wondering is consuming media in your target language counterproductive in your learning? Should I put it to the side and just continue working on learning vocabs, grammar and other stuff like that? Because to be honest I find the traditional way of learning a language to be boring and I really just want to just continue diving into the language whether it be listening to Spanish music, watching Spanish shows and videos. I find that to be more engaging than doing Anki, but I like I said I don't know if it's counterproductive in my learning.
>>200164669If it works then why change it? If you don't like the traditional grammar-focused method then you won't stick with it.
>>200164648Yeah it's hard to come by resources to learn spanish on account of it being a small language that few people speak. Better give up.
>>200164669It isn't counterproductive and beyond a certain point (early intermediate) it's the only way to learn anything.
>>200164648You should try learning Italian first.
>>200158856hylic
>>200151898Ja učim SrpskiTrying the Anki method for the first time. Going to Serbia in 2 days, any book I should get there for super fast learning?
I want to learn English but I cannot find any resources
>>200152040sallama la
I love Spanish
>>200165935Greekbro if you need books go libgen and zlib, if you want magazines go freemag and for other things 1337x..
>>200165935What's your current level?
>>200167570I think he was trolling because of >>200164648
>why and because are the same wordWhy?
>>200168706because is the answer to why
Portuguese anons, how would you translate this sentence? >reacting is them [the "fatal laws"] having made us react This is from Pessoa btw
>>200167085It's impossibile to learn it without living in a Spanish speaking country
>>200168744But because and why don't mean the same thing
>>200168706'Por qué' y 'porque' son palabras diferentes, sin embargo.
>>200168971In Italian they're both "perchè"
>>200169016perché actually
>>200164641I don't think they appreciated it
>>200169124Prove to me there is a discernible difference between é and è
>>200169213Consider how an australian pronounces dress vs an american. That's the difference.
>>200169394I don't know how an Aussie pronounces dress
>>200169424unfortunate.
>>200168706pourquoi parce que 为什么 wei4shen2me5因为 yin1wei4
Hilo latino! Can I drop useless particles (la, el, los..) just like I drop a, an, the in English? Those are useless and embarassing language retardations.
>>200161664Stop impersonating me
>>200171891You can't win this, nigga. I got the receipts. I used a tripcode ages ago.https://desuarchive.org/int/search/username/Kalle%20/tripcode/%21wQ0h1Lbiow/
did i dream up the time someone posted language roadmaps here? i swear i saw one for french once
>>200171568Nope. You can't drop them in English either, btw. Either you have to use them or you have to not use them. But in english they are different and used less.
>>200173562You didn't imagine it, I don't have it though.
>>200153747>minute details like theseIs the difference in sound of Portuguese and Italian a minute detail? Meanwhile this is literally the spectrum you're on when considering these "allophones." >small pronunciation differencesIdk if you're an actual jap but as a Russian I just can't grasp the absence of the standard universal pronunciation which the Italianate definitely is unlike millions of variations of reconstruction.>the parts that aren't controversial I'd rather argue that these parts are the minutes compared with the existing variation (0.5 /GI GE/ + 0.5 /CE CI/ + 1 /V/ while those I listed are 1 /L/ + 1 /S/ + 3 /B D G/ + maybe 1 /M/) and if you already decided to stick to the Italianate pronunciation of these as the majority suggests, why not also accept these minutes for the sake of convention? >actual RomansSince when the actual Romans in Rome stopped being Romans though?Also why did you ignore the question about macrons? The bald man says it's the defining part of the reconstruction yet these are fully absent from the most largely available texts. Should I go to dictionary each time? Romans didn't do that, they just wrote them, didn't they?
>>200162891I'm trying to learn Ancient Greek, but I don't know how to start
I know around 2000 words in target language. I can read native comics but with a lot of difficulty. My objective is learning around 3000 or 4000 words. I heard at this level you're much more fluent
>>200164648Just speak Italian but use -es to pluralize
Countries without extradition to Canada include:>Poland
>>200175306Same way you learn any language. Grab yourself a beginner textbook, learn a bunch of words and study some grammar. Then mass inpót with vocab+grammar Anki drills if your language doesn't have enough content to bruteforce it into your brain.
>>200175306By learning modern GreekIt's really not all that different from the old shit oddly enough
>>200175731Ancient Greek was tonal and modern isn't
>>200175798Tonal in the Chinese way where you need the tones or tonal like the Japanese way where they're not entirely needed?
>>200168812He does live in a Spanish Speaking country
>>200175970What the Spics speak ain't real Spanish
>>200175731It's very different thoThe difference between modern and ancient Greek is bigger than between Italian and Latin
>>200176009(x)Doubt
>>200175798>>200175833No more like how western languages are today where different tones convey different meaning. Like if you say “I’m going to the park today “ flatly then it’s a statement but if you say “I’m going to the park today” and the pitch of your voice is rising then it sounds like you’re asking a question
>>200175992So you want like Castilian?
>>200176149Oh so it's like a modern European language
>>200176009no, I wouldn't say so, even if it has been longer, at least grammatically overall they remain quite similar even if modern Greek underwent much simplificationItalian is maybe phonetically closer to Latin, but overall I would consider Greek more conservativein any case I wouldn't go through modern Greek unless the only ancient you are interested in is KoineI used mostly the Italian Athenaze by Accademia Vivarium Novum(PBUH)[has the grammar and other info in Italian] plus few online resources for the reconstructed pronunciation and accent system, I'm not directly familiar with other books but english speaking people normally recommend Mastronarde or nowadays also Logos, which should be in the style of Athenaze
>>200169424Not knowing what Australians sound like as an American is honestly pretty weak.
>>200171568They're articles, not particles, and no, you cannot drop them in either language. What the fuck? Learn some slav language if you don't want articles.
>>200171568Polish doesn't have articles.
Is the Google translate TTS ok for Polish? Want to start filling out my anki deck with sentences + audio from my inpoot material.
>>200179634Use FreeTTS. Katarzyna and Marek are the best and most natural-sounding voices.
>>200179634Yeah I think it's goodAll random words and sentences I put in it put stress in the correct place and pronounced everything right. It's robotey of course, I'd say it's the same as English TTS on Google Translate
Latine loquentes et in lettris classicis docti, non desinimus vincere.
if you were to learn a language using the perso-arabic script would you learn to type using the traditional keyboard layout or using a layout that approximated qwerty?
Vocabulary challenge>>200179805
>>200180009Learn to type with whatever layout is most common in the country you are going to. In TC they have a qwertz and a qwerty keyboard but in recent years the qwerty is more popular.
Just found out polish women prefer BBC to whitey micro dicks like mine. I think I will stop learning polish and starve myself to death
>>200171568No il mio amico"Il" è eterno
>>200180150aren't you a FtM? how do you have a dick
>>200180495clitdicks are a thing anon don't discriminate
>>200180495That poster isn't me
>>200180495I'm only interested in lolis, futas and men but to answer your question I was born with "ambiguous genitalia" (2-3; I have only one hole)
>>200164669>Does using a skill daily make you better at it?No, it made me worse. I've been reading books in english and watching youtube in english and I only get worse at it, every video I can feel my english ability slipping away as I could have spent that time reading english grammar books and memorizing long lists of obscure vocabulary instead.
Been thinking about this post from last thread:>>200120397>Maybe when you've officially spent more time in TL country than your own. Then you could argue that it forms a bigger part of your identity than the place where you were born and raised. It's still cringe though, you can't switch nationalities like it's a costume, especially when you have zero connection to a particular land and its people.
>>200166256kes La ibinakonuşuyok ya işte
for those learning french, which one would you consider better between the two, paul noble or michel thomas?
>>200175422Well you are but 5,000 is a better objective and honestly once you reach 4,000 it's a very small jump to 5,000, especially if you're already reading native material. You'll just pick up those final 1,000 naturally. Once you get to 5,000 it's pretty much on easy mode.
>>200182257J'ai utilisé le cours de Michel Thomas pour apprendre l'espagnol, et j'y ai plus ou moins réussi. Donc je te conseillerais Michel Thomas.
>>200182334merci
>>200168812Why? You can use something like iTalki if there are no Spanish speakers around
>>200182026>Maybe when you've officially spent more time in TL country than your own.This doesn't seem right. It assume that all times are equal. Every year, every day, every minute. If someone lived somewhere as a 2 year-old for a year, not forming any retrievable memories, you can't call that equal to a fully recalled year, right? And there are other things too. Whether your years were spent working, studying, etc.. To what extent you engaged in the local culture.
Are "tra" and "fra" actually interchangeable?
Pitybump for all the pitiful youths of /lang/ who are doomed to never learn a language
>>200185729teşekkürler habibi
>>200175798>>200175833>>200176149English is a post-lexical pitch language. The pitch can change the context of the sentence, like you described, but it doesn't change the meaning of the word itself. Ancient Greek was a lexical pitch language. In a lexical pitch language the pitch can change the actual meaning of a word. In English, when you say "I'm going to the park today" and raise the pitch at the end, it indicates a question, but the words themselves have the same meaning. You are still talking about going to a park.In Ancient Greek, it's more like if you used a rising pitch to say "park", it would indicate "TO the park. And if you said "park" in a descending pitch it would mean "AT the park". Depending on the pitch, the verb could be a different conjugation and the noun a different case.Furthermore, a pitch accent is different from a tonal language. A pitch accent has a pitch on a SINGLE syllable, and the rest of the syllables are neutral. In Ancient Greek, the pitch always fell on ONE of the last 3 syllables of a word, and the diacritic mark tells you which pitch to use on which syllable. In a tonal language pitches can be applied to multiple syllables within a word. One syllable can rise, and the next can fall. Finally, almost everyone who learns Ancient Greek uses a stress based pronunciation, because while we know whether the pitches rose or fell, we don't know the precise value of the pitch. We don't know how high a pitch would rise, or how low it would fall. There was one dude from the 1st century who said it was a perfect fifth, but when he was alive Greek had already morphed into stress timed Koine Greek, so he probably just made it up. He would've never actually heard the pitch accent himself.
>no macrons marked in books => no vowel length to pronounce => no proper reconstruction => use italianaterefute
is there a difference between:>右边写字的那个人是我哥哥。and>右边那个写字的人是我哥哥。
Speaking of latin reconstructed pronunciation: they want us to think that 'c' was always pronunced k but if that's true how comes in all romance languages it's pronunced differently in front of /i/ and /e/? In italian and romanian it's the soft c, in french it's like an s and in spanish it's the th sound.And yet in latin it's always supposed to be /k/, because ancient greeks (speaking a language that doesn't have the soft c sound) wrote cicero with a k.
Is "bloody" the British precursor to "fucking"?
Just got back from Turkey, for some reason they all thought I was Turkish (I have blue eyes and burn easily) and kept asking me questions on public transport in Turkish.>>200188733The first one sounds like "person who is writing right now"The second one is "person who writes generally/all the time"But it's not a very big difference and the context would make this clear
>>200189590The palatalisation of k/g before front vowels was a change that happened before Latin split into the romance languages, like with the loss of hThus it's the same for all of them
>>200189590I'm the one to argue for extensive use of the Italianate pronunciation to read even Antique Latin but the pronunciations of C and V are the ones we know for sure for that period. The deal is that there's zero reason to reconstruct the language of this particular period in the first place and that we can't be as sure about almost all other letters, see: >>200175084>romance languagesThe change happened around 300 AD and the Romance languages are obviously younger. You even can trace this kinda de-palatalization from /ch/ to /ts/ to /s/ to /th/ in Romance.>that doesn't have the soft c soundThey'd render it as /τσ/ if it was the case.>>200190024>like with the loss of hIt was already lost in like 100 BC, Greek lost its aspiration very early as well.Refute >>200175084 btw.
The trannyconstructions of the classical languages are literally the midwit trap, only peasant retards educated in public schools with classics going intermixed with gay sex lessons or jobless academic faggotrylogy rats shill for it.Everywhere where Latin is taught for rich people, it's taught in a traditional pronunciation, the Italian one is just being kinda the most adored of all.
>>200175422How do you know how many words you know? I have no idea.
>>200190206>The change happened around 300 AD and the Romance languages are obviously younger. You even can trace this kinda de-palatalization from /ch/ to /ts/ to /s/ to /th/ in Romance.On what basis do we know this?>>that doesn't have the soft c sound>They'd render it as /τσ/ if it was the case.Transliterations aren't fully phonetic even today. If C stood for /k/ as well as the soft /c/ in latin it would be natural to use kappa when transliterating to greek always.
>>200189902>Just got back from Turkeycaptell me where did you visit
>>200192075Are there turks with blue eyes?There were exchange students form turkey at my university every year and I have never seen one.
>>200190808there are tests online which estimate the number of words you know based on the amount of questions you get right>>200182320why is 5000 words a better objective than 4000 words?
Are there any torrent sites with audible audiobooks?
I have managed to goon 0hrs of japanese before my flight out! Jordie syndrome is getting to me, send help
>>200193914It's so joever
>>200193914This is why Duolingo isn't actually completely shit. Picking a shit way to learn a language is better than analysis paralysis.
chinese would be infinitely easier to learn if chinks knew you can space different words.
My local college is advertising Japanese classes for 150€ for about six months, two days a week. Do you guys think it's worth it? I have zero experience with the language beyond stock anime phrases.
>>200195745That's ridiculously cheap. Either you've found a bargain or you'll be sat in a classroom with a bunch of old people and autists who will take the entire 6 months learning to write their name and say hello in Japanese.
What is /lang/'s favorite conlang?
>>200184704Yes
>>200195970It's 150 for college students and 200 for people outside the college. > you'll be sat in a classroom with a bunch of old people and autists who will take the entire 6 months learning to write their name and say hello in Japanese.That's what concerns me, yeah.
>>200196336No reviews or anything? Maybe you can shoot the course instructor a mail and ask what the usual tempo of the course is? From my experience, college/uni courses tend to be better and filled with younger people, but that's because older people here usually take their courses elsewhere. Dunno what it's like in Spain. For 150 € I'd definitely give it a try though. That's literally nothing for something like 48 sessions.
>>200196336Can’t you just learn Japanese by watching hentai?
>>200196563>No reviews or anything?It's kind of a national platform, but I should look around. There's also an option for contact them directly, I suppose I could inquire further.>From my experience, college/uni courses tend to be better and filled with younger peopleInteresting. I think that this one has an agreement with Spain's National School of Languages, which is at the forefront of teaching. >For 150 € I'd definitely give it a try though. That's literally nothing for something like 48 sessions.It's like an hour and a half, twice a week, for six months. I have very little experience with institutionalized language learning, so I wasn't able to recognize it as being a bargain.>>200196828Not intelligent enough. I've watched a bunch of anime and I still get confused with how to say "thank you".
>>200192075Fethiye, Kas, Antalya, Istanbul, and IzmirThis all happened in Istanbul tho (and once in Izmir)
>>200164648Just hop on dreaming spanish
>>200189590that's not the only line of evidence obviously, for one, Sardinian retains hard k e.g chentu, ischire, but that's one case where there's even explicit internal evidence from grammarians quite literally saying it sounds just like kand then there's comparative evidence too from indo-european studies
>>200196955An academic hour is 45 or 50 minutes, so if you get 2x90 minutes per week, it's even better. And from the other info you've revealed, I'd say you can expect something solid.By the way, a Spanish girl came on to me on Wednesday at an Irish pub. She was too chubby for my taste, though.
>>200195745Classroom instruction is a terrible way to learn a language, especially final-boss-tier ones like Japanese. You would almost certainly be wasting your time and money. Doesn't matter the institution, teacher or the type of students, the main problem is that they all use the same broken grammar-translation methodology that simply doesn't work.You don't need to spend any money, just learn how to actually learn:https://learnjapanese.moe/guide/https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/tag_faq
>>200196286Is there a general way to use one or the other?
>>200198876Hello??? Do you speak German??? What are some good German from scratch/absolute beginner level books???
>>200199328Disagree. The problem is again that people go and take a language course and think that's enough. It's not nearly enough. For that Anon and his Japanese course, he'd still have to add at least 1 hour almost daily to supplement the language course. What good tutors can give you is explaining useful rules, training pronuciation, showing you what you're doing wrong, and keeping you motivated. What they absolutely cannot give you is the immersion cited in your first link (which, btw, does not deride classroom instruction at all) and the hours and hours of practice you need to put in. That's where most people fail. >>200200698I'm a native German speaker, but no idea desu. Children's books I suppose if you want easy reading material?
>>200192235Just personal experience, I've done those "5,000 words" test thing and a lot of the words were fairly common up until 5,000. You really don't want to be stumped by random common words, it makes you feel and look dumb.
>>200195242This post goes so hard
>>200192221Kıvanç Tatlıtuğ
>>200198876>I'd say you can expect something solid.Thanks for the advice. When the admission period starts I will seriously consider giving it a try. It could also help me meet new people.>By the way, a Spanish girl came on to me on Wednesday at an Irish pub. She was too chubby for my taste, though.Ah well, as long as you were polite in letting her down.>>200199328As >>200200901 says, I'd have to work hard from home too.
>>200200901I don't blame the students for expecting to take a course and be taught what they need. They follow the teacher and the textbook and they do the assigned homework. If that's not enough, then it's a bad course. The teachers aren't even aware of input as the primary mechanism of language acquisition, so they never assign any reading and listening outside of a textbook, and they rarely give students the tools and resources to immerse outside of class. If they recommend a book or a movie, it is only seen as an occasional treat, a reward for having done all the grammar exercises, it's not seen as a vital part of the learning process.Also, classroom instruction means being in a group, which is different from a one-on-one tutor. The teacher does not have the time and energy to keep track of every single student, their progress or motivation. You can probably get a question or two answered, but them coaching you every step of the way is a pipe dream and certainly not what you're getting for 150 bucks.I think it's a waste of time. Much better to understand the process yourself and just self-direct your own learning for free, saving your money for a trip or private sessions with a tutor when you want to practice speaking.
>ich habe mich verfahren>I got lost driving might be my fav ver-verb yet
>>200203999>Thanks for the advice. When the admission period starts I will seriously consider giving it a try. It could also help me meet new people.Yeah, language courses are a decent way to meet new people, I've found. That's a bonus. Learning with others can also spur competition, which some people enjoy.>Ah well, as long as you were polite in letting her down.Always!>>200204154It's not a bad course if doing all the course work is not enough. That's a misunderstanding of what a language course is supposed to do. It's simply not feasible to teach a language purely through coursework unless you can shoulder the cost for private daily tuition. Also, I don't really share your experience with tutors. Most of mine made it clear that the bulk of the work must be done outside of the course and that it's important to immerse yourself in native content. Native content also became part of the coursework as quickly as possible, steadily increasing in difficulty. With reasonable group sizes (max. 20 people, usually paid courses are smaller), teachers usually have enough time to answer questions and provide feedback to all students (there's often overlap etc.), but naturally it's not 1-on-1 tutor level. It sounds like you've had some really bad experiences with traditional courses. Maybe teaching methods are also different in Serbia or at least were different when you were exposed to classroom instruction?You're right that courses aren't necessary if you truly apply yourself. I think courses can provide a real benefit to learning a language, however - if the tutor's competent. At university, I found that most were.
After a long time I finally got my English to C2 level and I think I'm finally done with it. What is the next language I should learn? I'm kinda interested in Japanese but I heard it's difficult and I'm not sure if it's even worth learning at this point because of Japan's future.
>>200206975>because of Japan's futureOh shit. What's Japan's future?
>>200196265Not particularly a fan of any but I'll go with Ithkuil for the memes. What I will say though is; Esperanto is by FAR my least favourite. Not only because it's some gay version of a romance language (which aren't my favourite in the first place) but I haven't met a single person who has studied it who didn't turn out to be a giant, insufferable shitlib cunt.
Is the DON'T meme abouut Chink true? Any Brit anons here done it at uni?
>>200203541Damn, he looks similar to me. What's his ancestry, doesn't look Turkish at all?
Hey, I finally got unbanned.A genuine question.I am depressed as fuck, and have no hobbies aside from vidya. Now I have chosen my TL (for the 4859485th time IK) but it is what it is.Everything I need is there and I can just get started... today.Is language learning a good cope to tone down the depression, or should I drop language learning and do something else?My TL is French.I enjoy it, it's easier than German (which I might learn AFTER French) and it's not a dead language.Is learning a lang just to consume media (but really just to fill my time and feel less depressed) a good reason?Should I start a language learning routine, or find something else to do?This is a genuine question, so answer genuinely.
>>200203475I feel like going from 2000 words to 5000 is an enormous jump, I want more realistic intermediate goals so that I can still feel satisfied without having to memorize a thesaurus
>>200208795Should I learn to code instead? Or are languages better?Should I ITmaxx or foreign languagemaxx?Pls gib adviz
>>200208795If you want to stop feeling depressed, go to your psychiatrist and demand they give you the strong stuff. Learning languages by itself won't make you happy. You may feel happy when you start seeing your effort paying off, but it will only be momentarily amidst the endless pain of the grind
>>200209104i have no hobbies, i spend 90% of the day shitposting on 4chan being a jordie in some other board i would benefit from having a good hobbyis language learning worth it?Studying 24/7 for uni makes me go nuts
>>200208740He is half-Turkish and half-Balkan. Turkey is the Brazil of the Old World. They have everything.
>>200209150I recommend you start taking marihuana. Self improvement is a meme anyway and any satisfaction you might get from it will be after a great deal of effort. I do not recommend
>My TL is French.You guys were right huh. This dude can't stick to anything longer than a week
>>200208795honk honk
>>200208795>and have no hobbies aside from vidya*IMPORTANT HELP POST REPLY URGENT*And what vidya may that be?
>>200208795>Is language learning a good cope to tone down the depressionIt can be. Just don't pressure yourself with progress and expecations.Worst thing with depression you can do is sit alone with your thoughts, second worst thing is sleeping during the day. Anything that improves your mood and isn't destructive is good.Often it is not about creating a positive mood but mitigating the severity of the negative mood.Say your mood can range from -100 (I want to kill myself) to 100 (Everything is great and I love being alive) and 0 is neutral. Going from -80 to -50 is good. -50 still sucks but is way better than -80.Also find some creative outlet like playing an instrument, drawing or creative writing.
>>200209208Very interesting, indeed. Can I read a good book about this?Any recommendations?
>>200208998It's a tiny jump, your goal is already 4,000 and to go from 4,000 to 5,000 is actually really small because you get more out of your learning hours. It's much easier to get those next 1,000 words because you can watch literally anything, read anything, do anything in your TL for long hours and you understand nearly everything.The first few thousands words are the hardest. Once you get around 3,000 in it just gets easier to learn the next few thousand, then you hit a plateau much further on where words become uncommon and they're hard to learn because they're so infrequent, but that's past 5,000.
>>200209493Hmm, I don't know any good non-fiction books about Turkey
>>200206975Literally every developed country in the world shares that same future, Japan is probably even approaching it slower than most western countries. A neat backup would be Russian + you betting on them getting their shit together, either that or Chinese. There really isn't much left for you to conquer, you have all of the english countries down. You're pretty much left with a handful of choices>Learn some european language (you already have a base for this and it would be extremely easy)>Learn an oriental language - hard to do and their future is uncertain when you look at the massive commitment it will need but the whole world is uncertain at this point - really the only problem here is commitment vs risk>Learn a slavic language speculating that said slavic country improves in the future>Learn some arab garbage language (seriously hope you don't do this)
>>200208740What the other guy said. I had blue eyed, blonde classmates back in school. Gingers too. Ethnically the Balkans and Anatolia are an utter chaotic mess.>>200209493Probably best off googling around for some research about ethnicity and culture in the Ottoman Empire.
>>200209462If I learn French, see if it takes off, and then learn German, will it be a productive use of my time?
>>200210762I had productive projects in the past that I ended up dropping and may never pick up again. Even then I enjoyed doing it, am glad that I did them and don't consider it a waste of my time.In the past I learned Russian for a while and dropped it. Even if I never pick it up again, all the things above apply to my experience learning Russian.
>>200210332!!!!!!! ARABS ARE NOT GARBAGE OK YES?
>>200211176Caca country.Only purpose of learning arab is if you're a white woman who wants to go over there to get raped and beheaded.
>>200210762Languages with the exception of: Native, English, Current Country are a waste of timeand not productive. They're a cool hobby, interest and intellectual pursuit but if you care about being productive then go to the gym or take up an athletic sport or something. Hobbies are mostly always a waste of time if you think in terms of cringe "productivity" and that's completely fine.
>>200211288What to do then, britbro? I am searching for that elusive AHA! decision that will change my life around. I've read books, checked forums, boards, subreddits, people, even my own mind and I can't find a way to make my life fun.
>>200211445The answer is and always has been internal. You're looking at the outside world when the reality was always that it's about you making your own fun.What did people do when all we had were sticks and rocks? We had fun with sticks and rocks. Get out of your own head and literally just life your life instead of thinking about living it. Realize that you're alive and that every moment is fun. Once you know how to be happy you can literally sit still and not think of anything and still have fun. Before you know how to be happy you could be doing the most fun activities in the world and feel nothing.
>>200208795When I get depressed I walk in the forest (sometimes listening to some podcast in my TL, sometimes just listening to nature) and it helps relieve the depression.>tfw Jordie is just switching between my TLs at this pointPICK YOUR OWN TLs JORDIE!!!!!!!!
>>200211445If you can't find that elusive AHA in Brown speak/English, why do you expect to find it in French/German? Do whatever you want. Work on career and relationship skills if you're a normie. If you're a neet incel then just do rot until you die while spending your life learning/playing/watching cool stuff. It's whatever.
>>200211266!!!!!! IRAQIS INVENTED THE SOAP YES???YES? OK?YOUR JESUS WAS MIDDLE EASTERN? YES.NO TALK BAD ABOUT SUPER ARAB RACE!!!JANNY!!!
>>200211754i got an innate feeling that there's one lang out there that will make me a super chad but idk whichit's my calling to find out which lang is thati've already realized ill never live where my TL is spoken and i don't need to learn it for>job, translation, location, travelling, etc.so this gives me the freedom to pick the lang that I actually lyk.
>>200211803Can you spam porn again? I was too busy the last time and couldn't enjoy the sight of the thread.
>>200211803I hold my breath when around arabs so I don't catch the ick.
>>200211882based. you are based.i am actually only 27-30% Arab by DNA, i don't remember how much exactlyI am much more Turk than Arabalthough on paper my ethnicity is Arab, I am mixed.
>>200211882I am like 25% Mizrahi25% Persian28% Arab25% Turkish/West Asian (steppes n shit)
>>200211847>i got an innate feeling that there's one lang out there that will make me a super chad but idk whichPolish
>>200212031what does Polish unlock?
>>200212044Uzbek resources
>>200212044Sex
>>200212044Scrabble cheatcodes
>>200211266It's a good choice if youre a pmc I would assume.
A Pole is telling me about my NL right now.>>200211990>>200212048>>200212048>>200212096>>200212206>>200212268>>200212303Opinie?
>>200211847>there's one lang out there that will make me a super chadThere isn't...
>>200211966Then learn farsi or turkish
>>200212441Może ty tak nie mówisz, ale ja często słyszę one hundred and twenty-five na przykład.
>>200211445Haven't I got a pretentious xkcd comic just for you
>>200212801>ja często słyszę one hundred and twenty-five na przykład.ty nie jesteś natiw anglojęzyczny(m?)
>>200212843>You look like you're on a diet. That's great!This is normal and people say this to men as often as they say it to women and it's not flirting or "negging"
>>200151898I had sec with an Uzbek girl once her pus was brownish tho she felt pain coz she wasn’t used to size but she was patient for me to do my part. She cleaned my flat afterwards it was her initiative to do it lol
>>200213000No i chuj, że nie jestem. Ludzie, którzy są tak mówią.
>>200213138Aren't you lot meant to be Muslims
If I learn Sanskrit will I get superpowers?
>>200212843That was a painful comic to read. The seething and petty bitterness from the creator just oozes. Like he listened to some "yasss queen slay" monologue from some shitty female-empowerment movie and thought it was actually intelligent.
>>200213249I’m not a Muslim, she was divorced and had a kid so some hook up that none will know about won’t harm her so she didn’t care. I bet that in almost all of the Muslim countries men still get sex one way or another and central Asians are secular, especially Kazakhs, Uzbeks less so but still secular. They have bars and clubs in Tashkent
>>200207526Indian invasion
>>200213453>had a kid>felt pain due to your sizeBro... I think she was trying to massage your ego lol. Fair play to her.
>>200212843>Well I'll show him I'll make a comic of my female OC stick figure saying something really mean to a guy that will show those bullies :(Pathetic way of thinking, I'm gonna draw sonic agreeing with me that xkcd is a faggot.
>>200213249Soviet brainrot is too deep and won’t ever be eradicated completely from here. It was the first country in the world to legally equalize men and women, any religion was not welcomed and repressed
>>200213552I don’t care if she did it intentionally she still did it and it was flattering that she did it, oriental wisdom
>>200213181nikt tak nie mówią
>>200213000natywnie*
>>200214045*mówikurde najpierw napisałem nigdy nie... a zostawiłem słowo mówią
Ended up being in South Korea to learn Korean
>>200214055ktoś w /polsce/ napisał natiw
>>200214159>on uczy się języka od animepostujących przegrywów na forczanie
>>200214045Mówią, przestań pierdolić. 120 can be: one twenty, one hundred and twenty OR one hundred twenty.
>>200214223Tak.
>>200214292>one hundred and twentynikt nie mówi tak brzmi dziwnie
>>200214332Osobiście wolę każde nowe słowo/frazę googlować by potwierdzić że to nie jest bujda na resorach
>>200214507a ja ufam /polak/om całym sercem
edycja polski
good games for russian inpoot?
https://youtu.be/2WkNANG7Q9IKorean
>>200214838Indika, Pathologic 2, Stalker, Metro Exodus. Try Indika voice acting in Russian there is golden
>>200214978idgaf about pronouns I just want to grind more anki and fixed grammar constructions from the book
>>200213138That's actually so sweet. I wish a woman would do that for me, but God made me a fugly incel.
>>200214045to ze twoj nauczyciel polak tak mowi, bo się nauczyhł angielskiego z podręczników nie znaczy że tak ludzie mówią
>>200214838>https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6509904
>>200215414co ty pierdolisz nikt mówiący natywnie po angielsku nie mówi one hundred and twenty wszyscy mówią one hundred twenty
I'm learning Udmurt, Dźeč Ćukna!
>>200215498sory chcialem odpowiedziec polakowi>>200213181to ze twoj nauczyciel polak tak mowi, bo się nauczyhł angielskiego z podręczników nie znaczy że tak ludzie mówią
>>200213602Ol ayaqtadı!
>>200215440>>200215014cпacибo
Good classic Korean cartoons for late beginner inpoot? I'm looking for something remotely similar to this Polish-dubbed classic:>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5LVIbB3uvXM
>>200215525>Dying language suspiciously has the near-exact phonology of the local dominant language
>>200214838Defiler wings
>>200215627Ayaqtaldy* But you can’t all of sudden ayaqtalu something that’s been secularizing and actually educating (that is also) true people for three generations. Soviet legacy is deep and won’t go away. I’m texting it from a commie block I an area of Soviet comie blocks. Moreover nomads were never really that religious. Kumys the national drink has alcohol in it for a reason
>>200215675Phonology is closer to Polish but grammatical rules are like Hungarian. A District is a Joros, a Country a Kun.
>>200215886What are you bullshitting? It has Russian palatalization patterns and phonology. It sounds like a Russian mocking Finno-Ugric languages.
>>200215869An Ayaqtaldy means "Willow Foot" though.
>>200215100It's not a stuff focusing on pronounce though
>>200215986I would say it's from convergence, Udmurt comes from Proto-Permic and has patterns shared with all languages in the region, if anything Russian has a heavy Uralic substrate.
When people talk about 5k words etc, are they counting "jog", "jogs" and "jogged" as 3 words or 1?
>>200216261one, otherwise i could easily claim i know 5k hungarian words
>>200216261ofc as a single word, is this even a question?
>>200216320Thought as much. Good to know. >>200216331Being a snarky irritating mong is common in Turkey as well, huh? Here I was thinking it was a mainly an Anglo phenomenon.
>>200216030It means stopped. Ayaqtalu means to stop
>>200216251Kek.https://youtu.be/a6-uLyti9BgActually listen to that. Russian phonology. That's it. That's what's left of the Udmurt language...
For instance initial R becomes Dź.
>>200216261if you consider each individual form in a given paradigm a separate unit from its lemma, rather than part of the same lexeme, then you're retarded
>>200216539Oh, I said "It's over" via Google Translate. I backchecked it to make sure it wasn't wrong, but it could just be wrong.
>>200216395>I was thinking it was a mainly an Anglo phenomenon.during input you have to absorb the characteristics of that language too, arthur
>>200216680It was already answered. For future reference, you don't always have to give your input on every little thing. Hope this helps
>>200215545Nikt mnie tak nie nauczył, napisałem wcześniej, że słyszę jak ludzie tak mówią. Czytaj ze zrozumieniem.
>>200216775>ask a question>gets mad when people weigh ina social etiquette class might be for you
>>200216861>słyszę jak ludzie tak mówiąnie słyszałeś tak po prostu źle pamiętasz
>>200216638Only two palatalised t and d in common, everything else is pretty different. Udmurtjos call poor speakers of Udmurt "Votyaks" as an insult.
>>200216866Most in this thread is seething for some reason, I am not him btw but prospective Udmurt speaker.
>>200216982Okay then, when I come across that, I'm gonna post it here.
>>200217182no cóż chyba tego nigdy nie zapostujesz
I've gotta say, the French way of counting is just plain weird. I mean, sure, the Germans have their own quirks when it comes to numbers, but at least they're using a base-10 system like everyone else. The French, on the other hand, are stuck in this base-20 world that's just hard to wrap my gook head around.
Okay I made the choice. German and French. 100% sure after giving it thought.Which one to start with? Now that's a decision as hard as choosing those two.
>>200216866It is, however, also proper sociel etiquette in many circles to refrain from answering an already sufficiently answered question.
>>200217789you made fun of me when I told you you wouldn't start both chinese and german like 15 days ago. Here you are. lmao...
>>200217467At least the francophone Belgians don't bother with this nonsense.
>>200217872My DNAbro not like this...Start with German or French?
>>200217789>>200217872You should learn Udmurt or Çăvaş, Çăvaş is also Turkic albeit Oğur.
>>200217296https://youtu.be/-FddsPAiyyk?si=MdzCrP8Mo_9IRPFXSkip to 1:00
>>200218069Stop giving the man ideas
>>200218158nabıyon lan çinli piÇÇÇÇÇÇbana özbekçe bilmiyon dedin ben özbeğim lan kodumun mal pijjjjİ seni sG
>>200218158>>200218228It's nice to see the Brotherhood of Wolf come together...
>>200218228>>200218158I believe in Turkic supremacy. Especially with my 25% Turkish DNA.
>>200218228>>200218158We should hasten the establishment of KARA BOGA
Leave my TLs ALONE
>>200218475I WILL LEARN THEM BOTHMEIN BROZER.
>>200218402Interdasting, implies being from ancestors of high standing I believe, in Jordan.
>>200218094>strictly formal context and emphaticFind us an example of someone saying that number with "and" candidly
>>200218454Meme died with the Uni Scandal, now we are Ak Boğa.
>>200218742what uni scandal?and BBC memes NEVER DIEDON'T MAKE ME POST BBC DICKS AGAINI WARN YOU!!!!
>>200218527>Start courseDoes that button change when you've started one?
>>200218918yes, i refunded the courses and got them again, so i resetted the stats. ill just do an online decision wheel spin and see which lang comes up
>>200218867They got HIV and HPV, also a significant number of Male Lutis got Black-Bucked. https://ground.news/article/many-students-at-karabuk-university-applied-to-hospitals-with-symptoms-of-hpv-and-hiv
>>200218918Respectez les Africains, surtout ceux qui ont un gros pénis.C'est du français, mon amour.
>>200218715You said it's never used lmao I said that I have heard it before and I was right.
what are some entertaining Italian programs like La Zanzara, preferably with fewer tranny guests
>>200219066It sounds awkward and weird even in the one example you found.
>>200218918>Spin the wheel: Get Frenchnoo let it be German first!!!>Spin the wheel: Get Germannoo let it be French first!!!I am 50% biased towards German and 50% towards French.WHICH ONE TO START WITH?END MY MISERYIMAGINE, IN A FEW MONTHS FROM NOW, JORDIE WILL ACTUALLY SPEAK SOME LANG
We must protect Greco-Turkish Twinks from being BBC'd.
>>200219158the only italian production I've watched in the past 20 years is il testimone/caro marziano
>>200219173No, it doesn't, maybe it does to you because you only use one form but natives use both forms and both are correct.
>>200219193Only one thing to do now, start working on your American accent
I wish jordie never learnt English so he'd spend all his time in /mena/ instead
>>200219208Stop this from happening!
>>200219307they both look comfy, thanks
>>200212843Lmao at that comic. Literally proving the meme making fun of left wing memes true. PUAs are cringe faggots with issues THOUGH.
NEW THREAD!!!! >>200220481
>>200219365A native speaker would only say it under very specific circumstances.
>>200216250Not sure if that was meant as a joke but we only use pronounce as a verb and not a noun in English
>>200182113konuşmuyoz dalyarak türkçe bu>>200209083LMFAOOOOOOOO
>>200219193You should learn Kazakh
>>200221442uzbeks got better bangershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0diFZEexC8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EApsuTiqhlM
>>200221599>Yig'lama qizlmfao
>>200221664explain
>>200220569You're shifting the goalpost.You said that no one ever says it. I proved you wrong and now you're coping.
>>200221680It's just that their way of saying "ağlama kız" sounds funny
>>200221699You need to understand that "no one ever says this" is never literal, ever. The point is that it sounds unnatural and unusual enough that you shouldn't say it. In other words, the exceptions (your example) prove the rule.
>>200221873No, people say it all the time and I will continue to do so as well.
