Jordanon edition>What language(s) are you learning?>Share language learning experiences!>Ask questions about your target language!>Help people who want to learn a new language!>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!>Make frens!Read the wiki:https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_WikiUseful links:>Free language-learning book archive:https://mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw>Books on linguistics and language courses:https://mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:https://pastebin.com/ACEmVqua (embed)>Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30 plus languages:https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH>List of trackers for most language-learning packs:https://files.catbox.moe/nmrn8x.txt>Ukrainianon's list of commercial courses from rutracker.org:https://archive(dot)is/R2feT>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by familyhttps://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/>/lang/ inpoot torrentshttps://rentry.org/inpootFAQ U:>How do I learn a language? What is the best way to learn one? How should I improve on certain aspects?Read the FUCKING wiki.>Should I learn lang Y so I can learn lang X?Yes (Hittite, so you can learn Akkadian).>What is the most useful language?Malay.>What language should I learn?Taman.Last thread>>201284921
Why are these threads split between here and /soc/
I have a multi-audio Avatar the last airbender, would yall like that for your inpoot torrents?Also if I share it with you I would like some movies dubbed in Eastern Penan, thanks in advance
>>201288887There's one on soc?
Old challenge: >>201289165
>>201289162>>>/soc/33229375The current oneI forgot there were lang threads here cause i stopped coming cause nobody makes frens
OP here forgot to mention that I’m black trans and jewish
>201289706>jewishdropped
>201289706>jewishLove
>>201289226Shit challenge
>>201288470you made that "last thread" too early so it died with 0 replies.>actual last thread>>201201673>actual last challenge>>201204087
>>201290154Is the Swede our worst baker?
thread off to a terrific start
>>201289272This one is for introverts.
what is a "goûter d'anniversaire"?
>>201291672It's the name we give mostly to children anniversary party.Goûter = Nourriture (et boisson) que l'on prend dans l'après-midi (synonyme de collation).
the subjunctive is gay. your language is gay
>>201291969>assraped by a single "if"
>>201291969Indonesian has no subjunctive, unlike your lang
>>201291969F I L T R A D O
>>201291969I feel the same thing with some weird English tenses like the future perfect progressive
>>201291864>children anniversary party.do you mean a birthday or some kind of school anniversary
>>201292473English only has 2 tenses
>>201291969
>>201291969Subjunctive is kino. I like it in English too.
Martin Cabello Edition:>EasyI have brown hair.My brother Josh is dead.He has autism.Martin is driving his car.Where are my pills?This is my Deadpool shirt.She is married to him.We might start a Youtube channel.Is your family missing? Think about it.The government keeps harassing me.You smell so good.>MediumThis information is nuts!Today's subject: Slavery.Somebody just asked me why I hate the military. I don't hate the military.Somebody just asked me what would I do if I went to jail?So I was told the police are gonna come to my house.A word can be a spychological operation all by itself.Think about it. You have to imagine what doesn't exist before you create it.>HardErnie went on a hunger strike after his last waterboarding.Men in suits come to my house multiple times a week. They keep telling me to commit attacks on government buildings or else they will hurt my family.Gang stalking is a set of persecutory beliefs (truths) in which those affected believe(know) they are being followed, stalked, and harassed by a large number of people(agents).
>>201292683noice
Can language learning cure depression or should I look for another hobby?
>>201292854>FacileHo i capelli castaniMio fratello Josh è mortoLui ha l'autismoDove sono le mie pillole?Questa è la mia maglietta di Deadpool
Tried to train my 'r' pronunciation but I usually got /x/ οr /γ/ instead. I think I got it right a couple of times, which is a start. Still a long way from pronuncing correctly in words, though. >>201292854>EasyMon frère Josh est mort.Il a d'autisme.Où est mon cachetes?Ce mon t-shirt Deadpool.Elle est sa femme. (same meaning, I think)Peut-être, nous commençons un chaîne sur Youtube.>MediumQuelqu'un a me demandè pourquoi je dètèste le militaire. Je ne dètèste pas le militaire.
Has anyone tried playing Sims 4 in their TL? Could have a lot of good daily vocab there
>>201293583>Can language learning cure depressionWon't cure depression but it helps.
in french most of the zodiac signs have frenchified names instead of keeping the latin originals like in english and spanish
>>201293583Sure, but it's nothing inherently to do with language learning itself, it's just the act of succeeding at what you set out to do that actually helps. It doesn't matter what it is, as long as you care about the goal, work towards it and see yourself progressing.
>>201288470Why is Duolingo so fucking SHITTTTT AHHHHHHHHHI want to learn how to type German more not less
>>201295485Use Anki. 50 new words per day.
Is it actually that bad to input with English subtitles? I got to between a1-a2 in my tl by doing that and I try to listen as much as I can to figure out the words. The last thread they were knocking it
Are there even any humans involved in the scoring of TOEFL?
>>201292854french/français>facilej'ai les cheveux bruns.mon frère josh est mort.il est autiste. martin conduit sa voiture. où sont mes pilules ?ça c'est ma chemise deadpool.elle est mariée avec lui. on va commencer peut-être une chaîne youtube. est-ce que ta famille est perdue ? pense-y.le gouvernement continue à me harceler.tu sens si bon ! >moyen ces informations son dingues ! le sujet d'aujourd'hui : l'esclavage. quelqu'un vient de me demander pourquoi je déteste l'armée. je ne déteste pas l'armée. quelqu'un vient de me demander qu'est-ce que je ferai si j'allais en prison ? alors on m'a dit que la police va venir à mon maison. un mot peut être une opération psychologique tout lui-même. réfléchis-le. on doit envisager ce qui n'existe pas avant de le créer. >difficile Ernie a entamé une grève de la faim après sont dernier waterboarding. des hommes en costume viennent chez moi des nombreuses fois par semaine. ils n'arrêtent pas de me dire de commettre des attentats contre les bâtiments gouvernementaux ou sinon ils vont faire du mal à ma famille. le gang stalking est un ensemble de croyances (vérités) de persécution dans lesquelles les atteints croient (savent) qu'ils sont poursuivis, traqués/stalkés, et harcelés par un grand nombre des gens (des agents).
>>201298187It's all me and I will fail you if you don't post a cat picture I don't have yet NOW.
>>201298509
أين العربهنا لا عرب أبداً
>>201289757>>201289919La dualité humaine.
I did 1100 reviews and learned 300 new words today. Stop being lazy.
>>201298645Acceptable. I have a feeling you'll pass.
>>201291969Subjonctif almost made me kill myself, fucking soit and faisse have different sounds except them why do they still use that useless shit
>>201291590>int/roverts
>>201288470where can I get cowboyw bebop and gundam wing in french? crunchroll jusst has french animes that I dont want to watch.
>>201300793https://anime-sama.fr/catalogue/cowboy-bebop/saison1/vostfr/You can choose the VO or the VF
If you're not learning at least 50 words a day you are a LOSER.It's almost impossible to study for longer than an hour each day if you strictly follow the recommended SRS daily number of new cards which is around 20. If you are studying a language like French, Spanish, or German with similar words to English you can double or triple that and still not spend an unreasonable amount of time.Do people seriously believe that you can only retain 20 new pieces of information each day? You can easily boost that number up to 80 or 120 and still retain all of it if you actually put in the time. Studying for 6 hours a day used to be a normal thing.Language learners have become so lazy that it's pathetic just to look at them. 2+ years reviewing shit at the pace of a fucking snail and they still can barely read things written for children. You will never succeed. You need to know at least 10,000 words. You should be able to get there in under a year. Stop wasting time on the internet, etc and take something seriously for once in your life.
>>201300324And people say bribery doesn‘t work
>>201300869My fucking DOG.Thank you. Shit. Thank you.
>>201300913One of the main reasons I quit reddit is every language sub is filled with people asking about apps. Which app is best. Zero moderation.Something awful would ban you for 3 days for being retarded. No such modding on reddit.On top of that, zero posts like yours. The only people who respond are other beginners who give their beginner opinion on beginner ideas and keep everyone in beginner land.I got banned from the Korean sub for telling some kid to 'figure it out' like I was being 'mean'. No, genius. Figuring it out is the process itself. Banned. But if I made another thread asking what everyone thinks about duolinguo, I'd be met with tons of replies.People have forgotten how to study.
>>201301229People are just too obsessed with optimizing everything to reach 100% efficiency right away.
>>201300316>and learned 300 new words todayno you didn't 280 of them will be forgotten by tomorrow
>>201301270I blame the idea that Apps 'teach' you anything. The most efficient way to learn is to just read a book. You'll get the densest amount of information given to you in context that you have to return to repeatedly. Duolinguo is cool to let you listen to the phonics of a language, but if you are using an app instead of just opening a book and figuring it out, you are lost.
>>201300971As a thank you, suggest an anime to watch
>>201301480I just watched Armitage III for the first time a week ago and found it super charming. It's a ghost in the shell type from the 80s.
Why is it that I’m able converse in my target language in person fine in person but whenever I’m on the phone, I can barely understand other person or I tend to sperg out? What does this mean?
How much will I get Old English and Icelandic mixed up of I learn them at the same time?T. Know german
>>201289272Do people actually make friends on there? I doubt I'm able to make frens with people under 30 desu
>>201289272>>201302270we should do a group script read or somethingtranslating as we go of course
>>201301229yes, you're right, they get comfortable in their mediocrity and their identity as a "learner"they don't want to move on, they want eternal validation for being a big retard in the kiddie pool
Yeah the language learning sub on reddit is cancer. They’re retards. Or it’s full of noobs who ask the same dumbass questions. There are barely any people who are legitimately advanced in their TL on that sub. As soon as I got to a B2 level in my first TL, I dipped.
>>201302182Idk but I'm hoping knowing Old Norse will make Old English a cinch
>>201302713>As soon as I got to a B2 level in my first TL, I dipped.exactly, I don't want to be a "learner" or a "student", I want to be a SPEAKER then maintain it and move on with my life
>>201302270It's mostly for pathetic simp betas to try and get nudes from used up BPD roasties.
Is it worth to try learning two at the same time? One is Slavic and the other Romance, I just figure I could do spaced reptition or something where when I get bored of one I can switch to the other rather than waiting till I’m fluent in my current to start the next.
>>201302981well fucking said.
ITT: 4channers mad about redditors while acting like redditors themselves
I used to downvote posts on the language subreddit until someone here told me my account had probably been flagged and my voting disabled and now I don't do it anymore
>>201288470I've been putting off my chinese and japanese because it had been more fun for focus fully on my french. Well, french is getting pretty damn good, so now it's time to recalibrate and refocus on chinese and japanese. I'm happy to be at this milestone, but I'm also dreading it.
>>201303370>>201303400Wish I could downvote the anki-sperg tbqh. Honestly not sure what his point is besides coping with hours of flashcard shit rather than blasting out the reviews asap and getting back to actually using the language with input
I learned Icelandic solely to get women. It wasn't worth it.
>>201303370it's 1 guy replying to ximself desunobody cares about reddit. can't even view it anymore without an account, but nothing of value was lost.
>>201303565>I learned a language where every man there is a tall nordic powerlifter Chadmakes 0 sense, why didn't you learn Russian since Russian men are ugly drunks
>>201303805yeah but then I'd have to go to russia and fuck that
>>201292854나는 갈색머리가 있어우리 형 조쉬는 죽으셨어요그는 자폐증 있어약이 어디야?이건 데드풀 셔츠다그녀가 그랑 결혼했습니다우리가 유튜브 채널 시작해볼까 중이에요너희 가족 사라졌어요? 생각해봐나는 정부로 계속 괴로워한다너네 냄새 너무 좋아이 정보는 미쳤다!오늘의 주제는 노예제도방금 누군가 왜 군대를 싫어하냐고 물어봤어. 그런데 내가 군대 싫어하지 않아방금 누군가 나에게 감옥에 간다면 어떻게 하냐고 물어봤어. 그래서 경찰이 우리집에 갈 것이라고 들었다-생각해봐. 없는 건 만드기 전에 먼저 상상해야 돼
>>201303079Figured but I meant the lang thread
>>201292854Ich habe braune HaareMein Bruder Josh ist tot. Er hat Autismus. Martin fährt sein Auto. Wo liegen meine Tabletten. Das ist mein Deadpool-HemdSie ist mit ihm verheiratet. Vielleicht starten wir einen Youtube-Kanal. Ist deine Familie vermisst? Denk mal daran. Die Regierung belästigt mich weiterhin Du riechst so gutDiese Information ist verrückt. Das Thema des Tages ist Sklaverei Jemand hat mich gerade gefragt, warum ich das Militär hasse. Ich hasse doch das Militär gar nicht. Jemand ist mich gefragt, was ich tun würde, wenn ich ins Gefängnis geworfen würde. Ein Wort an sich kann eine Bespitzlung-Operation darstellen. Überleg es mal. Man muss sich was noch nicht existiert vorstellen, bevor man es ins Leben rufen kann. Nach seiner letzten Wasserfolter ist Ernie einen Hungerstreik unternommen. Anzüge tragende Männer kommen mehrere Male pro Woche bei mir vorbei und immer wieder dringen sie mich darauf, Anschläge gegen Regierungsgebäude zu verüben oder laut ihnen wird meine Familie zu Schaden kommen. Gang-Stalking ist ein paranoides Gedankengebäude, die sich aus Wahnvorstellung (Wahrheiten) zusammensetzt. Die Betroffenen davon glauben (wissen), dass sie von einer massiven Anzahl von Leuten (Agenten) verfolgt, aufgelauert, und belästigt werden.
>>201301401that's why you review the next day
i've been watching a filipino show (and kinda feel guilty about it because it's a waste of time since i'm not learning filipino) and it's interesting to hear spanish words here and there like pero, batalla, puta, basura, even in rather unexpected places like the word retazo which means scrap of clothing. filipinos also love to code switch with english
Well, I've finished the book. I'm not in any condition to input the native content thougheverbeit, so any "reading" would be more like studying, dissecting each line. I might use some interlinear translation or something.
>>201292854J'ai les cheveux bruns.Mon frère Josh est mort.Y'a l'autisme.Martin chauffe sa machine.Où s'que mes pilules sont?C'est ma chemise de deadpool.'est marié à lui.On pourrait démarrer une youtube.Ta famille, Ils sont absents? Pense-y.Le gouvernement continue à me harceler.Tu sens très bon.Cette information est dingue!Le sujet d'aujourdui: Esclavage.Quelqu'un vien de me demander pourquoi que j'haïs l'armée. J'haïs pas l'armée.Quelqu'un vien de me demander qoui que je ferais si que j'alle en prison.Bon, j'ai été dit que la police va venir sur mon maison.Un mot peut être une opération psychologique bien seul.Pense-y. Tu dois imaginer quoi qu'éxiste pas avant que tu le crées.Ernie a commené une grève de la faim après sa simulation de noyade dernière.Des hommes en costume viennent sur mon maison plusiers fois par semaine. Ils continuent à me dire de faire attaques sur edifices gouvernementales, sinon ils vont blesser ma famille.Le "Harcèlement collectif" est une groupe de croyances persécutoires (vérités), dans que les affectés croient (savent) que ils sont après être suivi, traqué, est harcelé par un grand nombre de personnes (agents).If you'd like to offer corrections, please offer corrections that make me sound like an old rural speaker from Quebec, if possible.This doesn't mean I would like you to ignore grammatical mistakes per se, just that I would like to use the grammar that an old hick would use.Even better if you know of the North American varieties of French from around Massachusetts etc (this is the dialect I am targeting), but I doubt more than like 20 people who have even heard the dialect still exist, let alone native speakers.après + INF: a progressive from this dialectmachine: carEmbedded questions introduced with WH-word + que also dialectical.Most of my info comes from Kelly (1980), although I'd like to get my hands on a different paywalled source at some point.
>>201306097>>201292854forgot a c in commencé, Ernie sentence.btw very nice challenge.
>>201288470Should I learn French or Spanish first bros?
>>201306780Why do you want to learn French or Spanish?I highly recommend French but that's because I am more interested in French books and films than Spanish books and films
>>201307096I have good reasons for learning both languages so it's hard to actually decide. I'd say I'm more interested in french literature than spanish though.
>>201307143Well I've decided for you, you'll learn FrenchHave you thought about the resources you might use?
>>201307226I have some in mind, but if you have recommendations I'd like to hear them.
>>201307267French for Reading by Karl SandbergLe Français Par la Méthode NatureInnerfrenchDuolingo French podcastHarry PotterGeorges Simenon
>>201307304Thanks ladI'm very interested in the natural method
>>201306780don't listen to your countryman, learn spanish, think of all the latina qts
>>201307492don't... i musn't...
>>201292854>EinfachIch habe braune Haare.Mein Bruder Josh ist tot.Er hat Autismus.Martin fuhrt ihn Auto.Wo sind meine Tabletten?Das ist mein Deadpoolsche Shirt.Sie riechen gut>>201300793>>201300869Does anyone know of similar sites for German or Italian? >>201307509No, learn French. Latina qts gonna love your french accent
>>201307304is there an innerfrench for italian or portuguese?
>>201310460No idea but there should beI tried getting an Italian here to do it but I don't think he was a fan
I think Volapük looks pretty cool. It's like if an Indo-European language had a Turkish or Hungarian grammatical structure.>Neito, ven binob fenik e labob slipi, golob lü slipacem. Filidob liti. Sälenükob jukis, säklotob obi, lavob obi e lenükob piyami. Täno golob bedio e kvänob liti. Pos timil anik slipikob. Gödo kuratiko tü düp velid galükamaglok tonon e galikob. Löädob e lenükob cemakloti e pantufis e golob lü banacem, in kel banob dis dujet, balido me vat vamülik, täno me vat koldik. Säluimükob obi me taul e lenükob dönu cemakloti. Täno lekluinob tutis e jeifob obi. Ven atos finon, pladob jeifadinis obik sui boed sus lavatab. Büä golob ad janedön, klotob obi. Su klünatab logoy kefi, köbi, namaloki, benosmelotafladüli e puinabokili. Klüliko dins lätik no ledutons lü ob, ab lü jimatan obik. In layets ramara kipedob lavastofädemi klinik; samo, jitis, pokasärvätülis, lustogis, kravatis, e rets. Lavastofädemi miotik seitoy ini bäset e sedoy ad palavön lavöpe. Kipedob ini ramar klotemis obik len klotilägöms.>When I was tired and felt sleepy, I went to bed. I wanted to sleep. I undressed, washed myself, loved myself, and put on my pajamas. Then I went to bed and quickly fell asleep. After a long time, I slept deeply. Suddenly, I was awakened by a loud noise, and I got up. I dressed in my slippers and went to the bathroom, where I took a shower, first with warm water, then with cold water. I washed myself with soap and put on a clean shirt. Then I got dressed completely and combed my hair. When that was done, I brushed my teeth carefully with toothpaste. Then I went to have breakfast, where I ate bread, butter, jam, and drank milk. Afterward, I got ready to go out. In the closet, I chose a hat, a coat, a tie, and gloves. My bag was packed with the necessary items, including papers, pens, and books. I put on my coat and went out
>>201312189is 'loved myself' masturbation here?
Hypothetically speaking, if I were to work in Brussels in a (possible) position within the EU organisation, would knowing English & German be enough? Or must I (again in theory) also learn French?
I feel like the spoken language should serve as the foundation of any language learningI think i made a big mistake
>>201313233I studied in Brussels for a year. You will want to learn some French. Most locals can speak English but French is the daily working language there.
If inputmaxxing is so bad then why is my neighbor and his son (~3 years old, A2 level at best) currently watching Peppa Pig?
>>201314051Ah. Thanks for the honest response; I suppose I can become somewhat competent in French, in less than a year, if I put my mind into it.Btw, how was your experience in Brussels?
>>201314077Nothing wrong with an ep or two of the 'eppa for lunch!
>>201305465congrats m8. Maybe try reading the New Testament; I've heard it isn't too hard
>>201313989French right? I learned to read german first with almost no audio input, and I fixed the problem by switching to inputting primarily via listening. Would listen to about an hour a day. Over a year or two it fixed the issue.
>>201316881Yeah FrenchMy problem is that I can listen and it feels very natural, the meaning just flows into my head assuming they're speaking slowly enough When I read the only way I can force myself to do this is by reading aloud but it's just too slow and I'm constantly focusing on pronunciation and if I read for speed I'm either reading without subvocalising or I'm translating words in my head effortlessly I'm seriously thinking of just switching to audiobooks at this point and going all in on audio inputDid you ever manage to get your reading speed back up? I figure I need to just stop reading and rebuild my foundations Did you find that your ability to output improved?
>>201285022>nice collectionThanks. >does it mean 'certainly'?ja genau.
>>201298662أنا
I need some mini advice, pick a global, famous language like French, German, Russian, Spanish, etc, or regional langs like Persian, Turkish, Hindi, Kurdish, Hebrew, etc? Korean is too hard, no?
>>201317106I don't read much anymore, but when I do I think it is pretty fast. All the listening definitely helped my output. Imo you need to put yourself in a situation where you are actually using the language, which for both of us is easier said than done unfortunately. The longer I am it, the more I think their is a sort of plateau as a self-learner, at least concerning speaking. One thing you could try, since I know you read Harry Potter, is re-read the first book with the audio book playing along. Might help you sync up the meaning of the words to their sounds. I sort of did something similar with a german news site that provided a transcript for the audio and felt like it helped a lot. Maybe go through it once like that and then listen to it back with no book a second time. Could also just pick a chapter or two.
>>201319435Kurdish
>>201319435Hi. Take the middle path and learn, for example, Italian, Dutch or Swedish.
>>201290191I'd say
German:>meine Fresse!bugger me>ach du Scheißeoh shit>ach du dickes Eioh you fat egg
>>201319435Your retarded gimmick got old years ago. Change it up you tedious mong
Please contribute to my lang related discussion if you would like>>201325313>>201325313
>>201325543>>>201325313(Cross-thread)Interesting graphic. Makes sense that French has more speakers but is less represented online. I'd imagine large parts of francophone afrika are still largely without internet or at the least underserved.Also, interesting that Germans are overrepresented. I know they are way overrepresented on Wiki. I think they are the second most represented nation in terms of editors after the US.
>>201325034Please sir address me properlyPlease sirOk?Yes?
anki autist inspired me to run through the whole Spanish 5k deck during this weekend most of it should be just a review tho since I've finished the refold deck and done quite a lot of input but still I am expecting to learn a couple of hundred new words
any language learners feel like they know the language but are like near deaf in itin the sense that when I'm speaking to speakers of my TL I know everything they're saying in theory but when a lot of people speak those actual sounds I have to ask them to repeat everytime and by the second time I get it
Anons... I can't make it to Poland. An accident ruined my plans completely.>>201288470Fun fact: Jordan Peterson is from the town I live in (Google says Edmonton, but it's actually a satellite town of Edmonton whence). I saw him like 3 times at Timmies. He has(/had) a very fancy bicycle with mirrors and a GPS attached. That really surprised me about him, that he rides a bike.
arabic made me cry again today anons. say something to cheer me up please.
>>201328009Got a link to any elementary level books in arabic? Ive got a site that has a bunch of articles at different levels, but articles suck.
>>201292482birthday
>>201327900>I can't make it to PolandCzo? Why did you plan to visit land of Poo?
>>201293871>>Easy>Mon frère Josh est mort.>Il a d'autisme.Il est autiste*>Où est mon cachetes?Où sont* mes cachets ? *>Ce mon t-shirt Deadpool.C'est mon t-shirt Deadpool*>Elle est sa femme. (same meaning, I think)Elle est mariée à lui>Peut-être, nous commençons un chaîne sur Youtube.nous commencerons*>>Medium>Quelqu'un a me demandè pourquoi je dètèste le militaire. Je ne dètèste pas le militaire.Quelqu'un m'a demandé* pourquoi je déteste l'armée. Je ne déteste pas l'armée.
>>201329386i've got a second grade arabic textbooks (pic attatched) that i bought in syria. i don't know if you could find them online though. sorry about that, anon.P.S god help you if you try to learn arabic. in my opinion, turn back now. go use this effort into something cool like japanese.
>>201298232>>facile>on va commencer peut-être une chaîne youtube.On va peut-être commencer>est-ce que ta famille est perdue ? pense-y.Est-ce que ta famille a disparu ? Penses-y *>>moyen >quelqu'un vient de me demander qu'est-ce que je ferai si j'allais en prison ?qu'est ce que je ferais* (conditionnel et pas le futur)>alors on m'a dit que la police va venir à mon maison.ma* maison>un mot peut être une opération psychologique tout lui-même.par lui-même*>réfléchis-le. on doit envisager ce qui n'existe pas avant de le créer.Penses-y / réfléchis-y >>difficile >Ernie a entamé une grève de la faim après sont dernier waterboarding.son* dernier
>>201306097>If you'd like to offer corrections, please offer corrections that make me sound like an old rural speaker from Quebec, if possible.I can't do that.
I just started learning german and I'd like to learn to pronounce properly early. Vowels, consonants, diptongs and umlauts aren't too difficult, but I can't seem to find any rules to separate words in syllables, does anyone know about it? I speak spanish and the way spanish works is that you can learn how to pronounce all syllables and with some accentuation rules you will be able to pronounce any written word, idk if you can do that in german.
>>201331403>>201313989Yep. I believe that at the very beginning you should focus only on speaking and only after that A2 level learn to write and read or learn everything with notes in IPA. Most pronunciation problems in English are persistent errors resulting from mixing Polish and English orthography.
>>201331257no problem, lol. I realize it's quite an ask. Wasn't sure if there was maybe some téléroman in a rural setting popular enough to be known in Europe that European french speakers might get some exposure to older Canadian French through.
>>201332122You can read from day 1. Only retards here pronounce English words incorrectly and mix the orthography of both languages.
für sie lerne ich Deutsch. So einfach ist es ehrlich gesagt.
>>201331403afaik, syllabification in German is similar to English: when divvying up consonants between syllables attempt to divide them evenly, but favor giving them to the following syllable when there are an odd number of consonants, and don't let any unpronounceable clusters arise (for example the made-up word 'Aftpa' could not be syllabified as 'Af-tpa', only as 'Aft-pa', can't start syllables with two plosives).Keep in mind that consonant digraphs/trigaphs should still be treated as one consonant, so 'sch' is one consonant and can't be split up (unless it is a fake 'sch' from a compound word where the first word ends in 's' and the next one begins with 'ch').When you encounter a compound word, this rule is broken; syllables are divided along the boundaries of the two words:Mit-tag-es-sen rather than Mit-ta-ges-sen (normally we would favor giving the g to the following syllable).Because German favors hard attack, this difference is noticeable; the first syllable of 'essen' cannot begin with a phonetic vowel, so a glottal stop is inserted [mItak?Esn] (excuse the ghetto IPA, the question mark is a glottal stop).
>>201333776Idk anon. I learned basic English in primary school, but it seems to me that common mistakes like Iron with hard R and Hello with strong H and strong G in Thinking are the results of reading from the day 1
>>201306780Learn french. You can begin by mastering this phrase:"J'aime manger des baguettes avec mon vin du matin"
>>201334559Imo they are the results of not enough listening practice and/or laziness.
>>201334277Wer ist sie? Und wird sie dich wollen?Das ist die Frage...
>>201334559I hear tons of native speakers (usually latinas) accidentally pronounce the final 'g' in '-ing', so you aren't alone.
Retarded question but you are allowed to take your phone to the toefl test center right?Just not into the testing room so you have to lock it up somewhere
>>201305465How was the book? I take it you did all the exercises? How long did it take you?
>>201330949merci
what language did dora the explorer teach in your country? here english
>>201292854>FácilTengo cabello marrón.Mi hermano Josh murió / está muriendo / está muerto. (I’m not sure which one is the most appropriate)Él tiene autismo.Martin está conduciendo su coche.¿Dónde están mis pastillas?Ésto es mi camisa de Deadpool.Ella está casada a él.Podriamos comenzar un canal de Youtube.¿Tu familia está desaparecida? Lo piensa.El gobierbo me sigue acosando.Hueles buenísimo.>Mediano¡Esta información es una locura!La materia / El sujeto (?) de hoy: la Esclavitud.Alguién acaba de preguntarme por qué odio el ejército. No odio el ejército.
>>201336138Spanish
>>201331025What are you doing learning Arabic in Syria? Late to the jihad train?
>>201330864Poland is actually the best country in the world. You can't suffer.
>>201288470will learning russian bag me a qt central asian gf
>>201331206merci>par lui-même*est-ce que je peux dire tout "en lui-même" ?
>>201327900>An accident ruined my plans completely.was it all a ruse?
If anyone is interested in Hungarian, this website has been really useful for meThey have free in-depth info on every aspect of the language. All the noun cases, verb conjugations, pronunciation, etc.hungarianreference.com
Hey, tomorrow I booked an appointment with a psychiatrist that specializes in ADHD treatment. My parents allowed me to do it and will accompany me because they tell me if I go there alone he'll try to scam me or something, they just don't trust me going there alone.Odds are I am going back on my ADHD meds.Once I do, should I learn a foreign language or do something else?I just want some fulfilling leisure activity, that's all.I might not post here anymore as I made the decision to quit 4chan. I might come here every once in a while, but I hope I quit this website. It has only fed my problems and made them larger.
>>201340304No. I got hit by a car and broke multiple bones so I can't afford to go to Poland this year. They called me and said they found even more fractures.
>>201341972I don't think this website made your problems worse.
>>201342086My condolences
>>201334277Boah hässlich wie die Nacht
>>201335537Sie ist eine Journalistin von ZDF. >>201342677bring dich um, chud
>>201335818I took a serious standardized test at a test center recently and we locked our phones after turning them off in a locker. I'd imagine it would be similar.
>>201342086how are you writing this
>>201343741What do you mean? My arms and hands didn't break.
>>201305465it's graded reader time, then.
>>201342677Wirklich wahr, ich weiß nicht was der Ami in ihr sieht, aber lassen wir ihm mal seine Wunschvorstellungen.
>>201342086>>201345905Which bones did you break? Are you in the hospital right now?
>>201335955>How was the book?Thorough and rigorous, fitting for a grammar Chad.>I take it you did all the exercises? I didn't bother with the "English to Greek" ones and could only guess what some of the "Greek to English" were about.>How long did it take you?I started around June 1.
>>201346219I broke my shoulder, tailbone and knee. I was released from the hospital a week ago, maybe two weeks. Then they called me recently to say they reviewed my X-rays and found that my knee was broken, not sprained. I'm supposed to go back to the hospital, but I'll do that tomorrow.
>>201346315I'm sorry for you, that sounds very bad. Hope you can recover soon.
Kneel.
>>201347109burnout incoming
Today I will remind them that when Poles mean to say someone does something "for fun", they literally say "for balls (testicles)".
>>201347401I'm built different
I regret registering for toefl instead of ielts
feeling depressed because some guy just reminded me that poles exist
>>201347699poles are more respected than germans nowadays
We out here.Took 24 mins to write 8 lines lol. Starting to know most the runes by memory atleast (Anglo Saxon)
>>201347725>nowadaysPoles have been more respected than Germans for 110 years.
>>201347854Respected so much by their "allies" that they willingly sacrificed them for a war plan that did not work out.Then those allies went on and just handed over the Poles to Stalin, which led to Poland being behind Western European countries by a generation.What happened to the people who declared war on the Poles back then? They received top positions in important organizations of Poland's greatest ally.
What code do I need to add some links to the 4chanint wiki?
>>201347983Yeah. Says a lot about how little Germany is respected.
he didn't get it
>>201348225At least in Canada and the US, admitting you're learning German raises more eyebrows than learning Polish instead. I'm not making that up.
>>201348293So?
>>201348332Stop letting brown people in
immersion doesn't really work much for me.
>>201348293>admitting you're learning German raises more eyebrowsalways found this annoying
>>201348410What does that have to do with what you mentioned here? >>201348293
>>201348410you do know that poland has a shit ton of jeets and africans too right? they love to tout the fact that they don't let muslims which basically covers up the thousands of other third world immigrants they flood in
i can't curse in my TL without feeling cringe. it feels reddit to curse in another language
>>201348609I have no problem curse in English and Japanese t h o u g h
>>201347854You're literally trans
>>201348520All of the shitskins in Poland are concentrated in 1 or 2 cities and the total mass of brownshit is much lesser than in Germany>>201348479If you want to be respected, stop letting them in.
>>201348807>curse*cursingMaybe I should learn to use proper English before cursing someone in English
>>201348854Respected by who?
>>201348963Respected by me
I'm thinking about starting a project of learning all of the latin derived languages (romance languages). I'm starting with Spanish since it is the closest to my mother tongue (Portuguese). What do you guys think? Is this realistic?
>>201349291>Is this realistic?it'd probably be easy for you but its a bit silly and autistic
>>201349423Probably. But I've been curious for a long time now. I know it's unlikely I'll go on with it, but I would like to at least try.
>>201349291Depends on many Romance languages you're actually considering. You don't plan on learning meme ones like Catalan, Occitan or Lombard right?
>>201349771No, I don't. Just IT, FR, SP and maybe ROM.
>>201349771>>201349828If Catalan were included in the power language index rankings, it would rank above Swedish and Norwegian.
>>201342086ich spreche dir mein aufrichtigstes Beileid aus und wünsche dir eine blitzschnelle Besserung.
>>201349291Why not start with Latin?
>>201292683Tuviera is best translated as "Had"Tuviese is fancier language, and tranlated as " would have"as in If I would have, or If I had.I don't know how I know this, that's just how my intuition translated it from understanding English as a second language. though I'm not sure about Spanish grammar.So now you know. If I had, If I would have. Si tuviera que... Si tuviese que...
>>201336402Tengo el cabello/pelo cafemi hermano Josue se murio ( murio or esta muerto are fine, esta muerto translates to is dying and is an Anglicism)Martin maneja su carro ( again, choice of words and intuition you could even say auto or automobil)correct donde estan mis pastillasEsta, because la camisa is feminine.esta es mi camiseta (because its a T shirt not a dress shirt) de Deadpoolagain, another use of se instead of estar. Ella se caso con el. Ella esta casada con el. you do not use a to say to him. its with him.Podriamos is better translated as can in this instance. if you want to say might you say Puede que which also translates as could wePuede que empecemos un canal de YoutubeThis is completely wrong, you might want to start with is, thence esta desaparecida tu familia? in that order to sound rational. and its Piensalo.El Gobierno sigue acosandome. / todavia me acosahueles bien/hueles bonito. you keep this expression polite and again avoid an anglicismany questions let me know
>>201326747> I'd imagine large parts of francophone afrika are still largely without internet or at the least underserved.Hint: it's the latter, because most stuff would still be done offline.Just a guess.
>>201292854Medium:Esta/la informacion es una locura!El tema de hoy: La Esclavitud.Alguien me acaba de preguntar/acaba de preguntarme/me pregunto (omit the just) porque odio a la militar/milicia/ el ejercito. No/ Yo no odio a el ejercito.Asi que se me ha dicho que la policia va a venir a mi casa.una palabra puede ser una operacion psicologica por si mismaPiensalo. Tienes que imaginar lo que no existe antes de crearlo/ tienes que imaginar algo que no existe antes de construirlo.HardErnie se sometio a una huelga de hambre despues de su previo ahogamiento simuladoHombres de traje vienen a mi casa mutiples veces a la semana. Me siguen diciendo que debo cometer ataques en edificios gubernamentales o de lo contrario van a lastimar a mi familiaEl acoso grupal es una serie de creyencias persecutorias (verdades) en cuyos aquellos afectados creen (saben ) que estan siendo perseguidos, acechados y acosados por un gran numero de personas/gente ( agentes)
>>201349291Just learn French and Spanish. you already have enough on your plate and don't need any more
>>201288470Does anyone else dispise the idea of playing games in your target language?If I played games normally, sure, switch them over. But I dont have free time to play games even if I can sneak a benefit. I can barely make time for movies as it is...Games could be good but I'd have to be playing five at once for overlapping vocabulary.
>>201353565I don't think it's a very efficient source of input compared to podcasts, audiobooks and books
>>201351254Gracias bro, I noted them all downSo I guess marrón is never used for hair?
don't die while I'm writing
>>201309428>Martin is driving his car.>Martin fuhrt ihn Auto.Martin fährt (sein) Auto. / Martin fährt mit dem/seinem Auto.>fahren; er fährt; er fuhr; er ist gefahren - to drivethis is an irregular Germanic conjugation so you have to remember the changing stem>führen; er führt; er führte; er hat geführt - to lead; (formal) to operate a vehiclethis is a regular conjugation>Martin führt sein Auto. ~ Martin operates his vehicle.would also make sense, but a quite formal use. but this it's why it's "der Führerschein" and not "der Fahrerschein" like in English.>This is my Deadpool shirt.>Das ist mein *Deadpoolsches Shirt. ~ This is my Deadpoolish/Deadpoolean shirt. / This is my "shirt of Deadpool".this is understandable but when used with a proper noun or name it turns it into an adjective. this is often used for things that are named for a person or inventor, e.g.>Euclid-ean geometry - Euklid-ische Geometrie>Pythagor-ean triple - Pythagor-eisches Tripel>Oort cloud - Oort-sche Wolke so it sounds like it's a special shirt invented by or named for Deadpool. could be, but if it's just the same shirt Deadpool wears or it shows Deadpool on it, more usual and simple would be:>Das ist mein Deadpool-Shirt. ~ This is my Deadpool shirt.you can just make a compound noun the same way as in English, just without a space>You smell so good.>Sie riechen gutfine but sounds very gentleman-like with "Sie". usually when flirting with someone you'd use "du".good job
>>201292854>ЛecнoИмaм кaфявa кoca.бpaт ми Джoш e мъpтaв.Toй имa ayтизм.Mapтин кapa кoлaтa cи.Къдe ca лeкapcтвa ми?Toвa e мoя Дeдпyлия pизa.тя e oмъжeнa c нeгo.Moжe би щe зaпoчвaмe йyтйyб кaнaл.Ceмeйcтвoтo ти липcвa ли?Пpaвилaтa (винaги) мe пpитecнявa.Mиpишeш тoлкoвa дoбpe.>CpeднoTaзи инфopмaция e лyдa!Днeшнaтa тeмa: poбcтвoHякoй мe пoпитaл зaщo мpaзя apмиятa. Aз нe мpaзя apмиятa.някoй мe пoпитaл кaквo щe пpaвя aкo oтидa дo зaтвop.Taкa, бях кaзaл чe пoлициятa щe дoйдe нa дoм ми.Eднa дyмa мoжe би пcихoлoгичecки oпepaтция пpocтo в ceбe cи.Пoмиcли тoвa. Hyждaш дa пpeдcтaви cи нeщo пpeди дa гo cъздaдeш.
>>201355768NTA but no, marrón is not used, he said cafe but you may also use pelo casteño, or pelo moreno, these are the most used in Spain, you'll be understood perfectly if you say cafe but idk if that is used at some latam countries or all over.Also know that you can say someone is moreno, but that can mean both that they have brown skin, think arabs, indians latinos, or that they have brown hair. If you want to specify what is brown then say "él es moreno de piel" for skin or "él tiene pelo moreno" for hair.
buenos dias
>>201359804you have to say buenas dias to bait people.
>>201359928oh shit that's what I wanted to do actually lmao
>the russian alphabet is the easiest part of learning the language xDD, it only takes 20 minutes to figure it outYes nigger, it takes 20 minutes to learn the alphabet and several months if not a full year to start reading in cyrillic intuitively.Until then it's a massive hurdle to the learning process, whether you're studying grammar, syntax or vocabulary.Why did I fall for this meme and picked a non-latin alphabet language?
>>201360345BUT YOU ARE A FUCKING GREEK
>>201360345try harder
>>201360414Which means that I'm at a disadvantage, because the balkan IQ is on average 7 points lower than in western europe.
>>201358352Danke schön!My biggest problem rn is probably my lack of vocabulary. I have to memorize the most common words with their conjugation, especially irregular ones. With Deadpool I tried to make a calque from the Polish language (but sounding-like German), it works similarly here, but I think we are less strict in this matter. Everyone complains about German grammar, especially about cases and word order, but so far I have no problem to understand it, just lack of knowledge, I can often translate sentences word for word and at worst it sounds unusual but understandable. I love grammatical cases and I believe I can master grammar with enough practice >sounds very gentleman-likeIch bin ein galant Gentleman!
>>201360543>Which means that I'm at a disadvantage, because the balkan IQ is on average 7 points lower than in western europe.That's the reason why we are poor, not the reason why you can't learn a language. git gud
>>201359407Gotcha, thanks, I've got to remember that