Learning a language to satisfy the sadistic desire for a certain image of love that only exists in my head only to get into the cycle of parasocial attachments with girls i will never ever meet aka learning turkish for anzu edition>What language(s) are you learning?>Share language learning experiences!>Ask questions about your target language!>Help people who want to learn a new language!>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!>Make frens!Read the wiki:https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_WikiUseful links:>Free language-learning book archive:https://mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw>Books on linguistics and language courses:https://mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:https://pastebin.com/ACEmVqua (embed) (embed)>Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30 plus languages:https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH>List of trackers for most language-learning packs:https://files.catbox.moe/nmrn8x.txt>Ukrainianon's list of commercial courses from rutracker.org:https://archive(dot)is/R2feT>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by familyhttps://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/>/lang/ inpoot torrentshttps://rentry.org/inpootPrevious: >>204485559
There is a correlation between intelligence and memorizing. Language learning is more than just memorization, thoughever.
What is his TL?
I really want to use Anki to memorize words, because its really effective for me, but adding words manually is just too much of a hassle. When I started learning Japanese I could use Yomitan to do that for me, whoever that requires good dictionaries. My problem is that there are no good DE-NL dicitonaries that I can find and I don't want to learn EN-DE, because for most words that just adds extra fuzziness in understanding that's not there in DE-NL. Does anyone have any suggestions? The only option I thought of was webscraping an "online" dictionary, I however have 0 experience in doing such a thing.
>>204580684Hochdeutsch
>>204580684Right now it's German but time will tell if he switches to French or Russian again or chooses to focus entirely on his English or Arabic
>>204562065>So you'd say that the only wrong usage was the treiben/treibend mixup, instead using it as a noun phrase and not another verb phrase, and then the beobachten, ... part?Yes, I think so.>Could you explain why the infinitive noun form sounds bad?I honestly can't think of any explanation or any example in English that would be similar. It's not the fact that you're listing multiple verbs, just that the adjective "wenigen" sounds awkward in this grammatical construction. Sorry that I can't give a better explanation.>Also is there stylistic room to say something like dazwischen or miteinander or would that not sound correct?"dazwischen" doesn't work here grammatically, but you could use "zwischen sich":Und so warteten sie mit einer gemeinsamen Hoffnung zwischen sich"miteinander" is correct in the way that you used it, but I think it would be better placed after the "sie", in which case there would be another "mit" right after it, which makes it sound slightly awkward:Und so warteten sie miteinander mit einer gemeinsamen HoffnungYou can also use both in the same sentence, they're not mutually exclusive since they refer to different things, but again this sounds awkward, "zusammen" would sound better here in place of "miteinander":Und so warteten sie miteinander mit einer gemeinsamen Hoffnung zwischen sich
>>204580373Dropping Threadly Toki Pona Song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69rxQuTmAcg
Language learning is the demiurge, you can be better, just walk away.
learning lithuanian to torture myself out of my boredom.now i can transcribe a bit of what i hear in videos that arent too fast to paper though i have trouble with į/y, and u/ū (but im getting the hang of this one, the accent feels like a different slope) and some more. i asked my lithian friend and he said even he struggled with į/y in school and it's mostly a grammar thing with į, and y being its own letter.really digging the past iterative tense -dav-. būdavau, dievas neigė. numirdavau, bet atsikėlė. (can any lithuanons check the grammar for me?)this is my first time trying out an inflective language and i like it, it feels unique and unlike english. it makes you think in an entirely different way and it feels compressed and poetic.im currently watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6wSnHcx54Q on loop until i understand it without subtitles like an autist.
>>204581909someone do a psychoanalysis on people who listen to this chat
>>204580373god i hate this fucking insufferable retard so much
>>204580684Udmurt
>>204582035imbecile, kindly immigrate to germany thank you
>>204581929You must be the only Korean on the planet (who still lives there) that has ever entertained the idea of ever dabbling in Lithuanian.
>>204580344>non-sequiturYou’re so fucking stupid it’s just funny, I feel kinda sorry for you, being so dumb must be actually sad.
>>204582560>i-it's so f-funny h-hahaPic relatedSorry that basic Latin words are too scary for you. Stick to crying about how much reading French (lmao) is too hard for you
>>204582784Yeah, go back to reading your medieval “science” books in latin thinking they hold any sort of values in today’s words, you fucking moron.
>>204582311i searched for them and one of them is a part time teacher in kaunas that gave up learning and only knows how to say hello even though she's been there for years, and another is a guy married to a lithuanian woman trying to speak it but miserably fails, i had to stop watching. seems like youre right.its been a few days since i actually bothered to devote around 30 minutes a day for it (and autistically listening to google translate TTS) and i think i can sort of pronounce it properly now. maybe being fluently bilingual in english and korean helps with unfamiliar phonology. i never understood why people speak konglish.
>>204582813Oh dear, now you've just made up an imaginary scenario and then made yourself mad at itAlso, big words from a native romance language speaker who thinks French is too hard to read (LMAO)You going to continue being mad at your own stupidity, or are you going to just admit defeat and go away until the next "Wahh French too hard for my pea brain" meltdown?
>>204583047You’re such a sorry person, such a hypocrite too, you accuse me of the exact thing you’re doing right now. For real, your IQ must be like 90~95, you should just give up languages entirely, this hobby is not for you, go enjoy things that more on your intelligence level.
>>204582834there's this random japanese guy that speaks it quite well btw, https://www.youtube.com/@kotaro_lietuvathe tones seem to be really important, i also like how you don't have to put "i" as you do with english.
Germans be like Mami gib mir ein Handy ????????????????????
>>204582050what's wrong with udmurt?
>>204583467The Brit made him seethe kek
guys I'm starting to understand native content! I still don't understand books with a lot of technical words, but I'm able to understand characters talking normally
I've decided to learn singing to improve my voice in English. But I got to learn this anatomy first. Holy shit, It's an unhealthy obsession
>>204583467>pretending to learn languagehow can you gauge that? >too stupid to actually do anything elseas if learning a language is easier than learning carpentry, programming or some other skill? >It’s pretty funny how they have a free pass to be racist against every other nationality hereI mean, it's their forum...>but if I advocate for the complete extermination of those Europeanare they advocating for the complete extermination of those Brazilian or some other nationality? And even if they do, why would you even care? It's just an anonymous online forum after all
>>204584114I was called a faggot online once for being Spaniard. As a result I know have CPTSD and I needed to be hospitalized because of my flashbacks and the risk I was gonna kill myself. I agree with you, online racism is brutal
>>204584114Stop the larp already, you couldn't kill anyone.
>>204583118Ok, so you went with the "continue being mad at your own stupidity," option.It's also really interesting how you just cannot see you keep conflating intelligence with language learning while also at the same time failing spectacularly at reading what is considered an easy language for people with your NL What does that say about you lol
>>204584114I'd recommend you to have a cup of tea or something that helps you calm down. The Brit wasn't being racist towards you, you're seething for no reason at him. It's not nice to be treated like shit because of what/who you are, but racism is just part of 4chan.
why am I so good at input but so bad at output?
>>204583879Nice one! What have you been watching/listening to?>please be the pig
>>204584497because you do a lot of input and barely do any output. The only way you can become good at something is by actually doing it.>but I AM doing it!!!then you aren't doing it enough, do more output. MORE.
>>204583879That's some good progress. How long have you been learning your TL?
>>204584497The brain needs to exert effort to learn. You must review before memory fades. You should study in a way that makes you explain things on your own. The bottom line is >"inpoot is all you need" is overhyped propaganda
>>204583879>>204584598>Native content
>>204584286Why are you defending them? You realize the actual Europeans don’t consider you European at all right, you just live there. Even the Russian, who were considered subhumans by the nazis, think of you as subhumans. In other words even the subhumans think you’re below them. So I ask you again, why are you defending your overlords who spit and step on you?
>>204584497It's just easier to get fucked in the ass than to do the fucking, you just need to be more brazen and take the initiative
>>204584696>your brain on /int/Have you ever met an European irl?
>>204584508>>204584598>>204584694I've been learning for a long time, started taking it serious in late 2020. I'm learning Chinese>>204584697I also have social anxiety so I'm never talking to people in Chinese. fuck output
Ignore him Pole-bro. Poles are great. My favourite Polish meme is the one where you translate Western names into Polish names because in the past it was considered rude not to, so you end up with ridiculous Polishized names. Pissed myself when I saw "Włodzimierz Biały" for Walter White.
>>204584696I'm not defending anyone. I don't give a shit what some ruskki or some mutt on fucking 4chan thinks about me, but you seem to care a lot about their opinions.>Verification not required
>>204584696that is true, most euros hate poles and both us and them consider poles subhuman because they're too aggressive and have tried to invade Russia many times, but like... it's still an online forum, lil bro, you don't have to be mad when some anglocuck calls you a sopa de macaco or whatever. It's the INTERNET, an ONLINE FORUM
>>204584901>>Verification not requiredwhy do people put this in their posts? I understand putting your captcha if it says something funny, but why do you want us to know that you didn't have to write any captcha?
>>204584845How could you have managed to learn English without output btw
>>204584899seems to be an eastern euro thing, ive seen bulgarians doing it too, like Kanye Omari West -> Кaньo "Oмapът" Зaпaдникoв
>>204584976my english speaking is around b2 and the rest of skills are around c2. I just found out that improving input also improves your output indirectly
>>204585025Even back then I was easily able to read scientific papers in English, I struggled to answer simple questions like 'How have you been?' and stumbled over 'How are you?' If your native language is very different from your target language, don’t expect your speaking skills to improve naturally with inpoot.
>>204583357give me a handjob, i bet you are very very cute pawełek
>>204583198>he has a lithuanian and a polish channelWhoa! Now this is unique
>>204584899I've never heard anyone call Walter White that. >>204584950>because they're too aggressive and have tried to invade Russia many timesPoland invaded Russia at least three times (1605–1618, 1654–1667, 1812).Russia invaded Poland significantly more often, at least six major instances, particularly during the 18th and 19th centuries, and in 1939.
>>204585264self-defence so that you could stop chimping out on us. Considering the fact you're no longer a major power or a real threat to us, it worked.
>>204585264https://boop.pl/rozrywka/zakazane-slowa-w-szkole-skibidi-rizz-sigma-ohio-i-masa-innychSaw it in some youtube comments too
>>204585327poland has a bigger gdp than russia
>>204585378keep me updated
>>204584899>>204585253You so fake, dude, I don’t know how anyone IRL would like to interact with you, you probably have no real friends.
just projection constantly from this dude baka
>>204585223I just hate outputting in general, irl and learning languages too
Brasil bro >>204585531 stop malding play tibia with me instead caralho fila da puta
>>204585367Zoomers are funny lolI just imagine those Polish boomer teachers listening to gyat and mewing all day.
Please study most advanced Language
What did she said in this low quality porn? (English)I can't get native fluency forever my life has been fucked up > .....(blank) Reminds of you something that he saidhttps://www.redgifs.com/watch/wigglycookedleech
>>204586291What did she say*I gotta kill myself with this stupid mistake
>>204586291Didn't this remind you of something that I said. I think. Why are you watching porn as English input?lamo
>>204586030I'm intentionally not learning japanese because it sounds better when I don't understand it. It gives the charm in anime and japanese is thankfully translatable to korean word by word without losing nuance.
>>204586440Good ear
unrelated, read some course outlines for a linear algebra I course in a german uni, seems way more rigorous than the avg introduction linear algebra course at an american one.
>>204586652If you don’t even know proof-based Linear Algebra why the fuck are you even thinking about doing a masters?
>>204586440https://soundgasm.net/u/beyonceisavirgo/Cheerleader-Invites-You-to-a-Party-Because-You-Were-in-a-Play-Together-EPISODE-2Because those kind of things are too easy to me, easy peasey my dick squeezy. I have a plan to live in America so I'm diversifying my impoot source and there's literally nothing wrong with it
>>204586585Thanks.
>>204586652We learn introductory linear algebra in high school. There is a reason why we have 3 year Bachelor's and you have 4 years.
As someone who has learned Spanish up to a C1 level, yes there really is endless pussy at the end of the tunnel. Set your bumble filter to Spanish or use the proximity filter on HelloTalk, chat up some random au-pair girl, nursing apprentics or exchange student from Colombia/Venezuela/Argentina/Mexico that is in your mid-sized to large city and bam, bumble date the same week. It's that easy.
>>204586912>Learning language to have sexThe absolute state of Germans. I heard rumors about German horniness, but I never thought you were this bad.
>>204586760https://youtube.com/shorts/M9l7FcYSwY0I was shocked by how Americans figure out those words
>>204586030The question is not whether I want to learn it, or if I have the autism to learn it.The question is if my autism is strong enough to persist for 6+ years.
>>204587021kek at him trying to copy what she said
What do these words mean in German?>Frieren>Fern>Stark>Sein>Himmel>Heiter>Eisen>Serie>Flamme>Kraft
>>204587007Brazilian chicks have even lower standards, I get laid with them using my shitty A2 Portuñol with them. While they are fewer that actually makes them since Portuguese is more of an 'obscure' language (relatively speaking), as in people that actually speak them natively and live abroad. If you put the Portuguese filter on on Bumble you basically can see 80% of the fertile Brazilian women in your town and the remaining 20% you will find organized within Evangelical expat facebook groups. And these aren't even dumb chicks, they are girls with fucking biochemistry degrees who work here babysitting children.
>>204587240What do you mean? Those words already are in German.
>>204580986NEIN
>>204587254If you ever say that to my face I'll kill you.
>>204586912>>204587254Based coomer. It is evident we share common ancestors with the French.
>>204587321Brazilian women are the only nationality of women I met that would actually give in when I flippantly and boldly brought up anal on the first or second date.
>>204586731when did i say i'm considering doing a master you schizofk
>>204587097I hope South Korean people just imitate the UK accent.
>>204587585Sounds about right. Easily one of the most whorish of races.
>>204587648I hope I see a South Korean speak in a thick West Country, or Yorkshire accent
>>204587657And again, I am not talking about some random favela whores from the street but girls from upper middle class households have have Master's degrees in statistics and shit.
>>204582124i've had a conversation with her like 5 years ago back in ankara gamex fair where she was cosplaying some league of legends character and she genuinely was acting like a retard, just like you would expect from an average weebo cosplayer weirdo
>>204587604There was some American guy here thinking about doing a master in mathematics in Europe. It's probably you, but you're too ashamed to admit now.
>>204587995mathematics is the most useless field there is
>>204587700https://youtu.be/ZOKtWd-VX4khttps://youtu.be/LGfCGmEWx8E
Question for ESL retards: how much of pic related can you understand without a dictionary?
>>204588335The only word I had to look up was 'garret window'.
>>204588366You're lying.
>>204588385Well I knew what 'window' meant if that's what you mean.
>>204588435No way you understood all that without help, lying piece of shit.
>>204588335>>204588366Just like the german guy, I had to look up garret.
>>204588540I have a CPE C2 Grade A and lived for 6 months in Canada.
How do I overcome the urge to make a trillon anki cards when I read?
>>204588611And? Most of the words in that paragraph aren't used anymore in modern colloquial speech. You'd need to have a very extensive vocab to understand everything without looking up some of the words on a dictionary.>>204588541Another lying piece of shit.
>>204588660You make a trillion anki cards until you only get like 1 or two words per page you don't know. Or you make yourself a rule that onyl words that repeat themselves three times or that you keep noticing popping up repeatedly deserve a card.
>>204588711unironical question have you ever read a book in english before
>>204588711Keep coping. I have no reason to lie. You need to read more.
>>204588711Which ones? Drooping? Debauchery? Sober company? Dusky? Soddened? These are all present-day terms.
>>204588660Why wouldn't you make Anki cards for the words you don't know?
>>204588800"Drooping" is not the same as "dropping", no one uses it anymore. No one says "debauchery" as well, "thrush" is also never used. "Sodden" is not the same as "sudden". You either misinterpreted most of those words or you're lying. Also, the way it's written is very unlike spoken language so it's not just about outdated words but also about the structure of the phrases.
>>204588957>DroopingYou have never come across the expression 'droopy eyes' or 'droopy ears' seriously? They are extremely common. The latter is very common when people are talking about dogs for example. And debauchery is often used in an ironic context. It seems to me that you are just projecting your lack of literacy on others. According to Alexander Arguelles and the New Zealand university study you need 2000 word families to have a conversation, 5000 word families to be able to watch a movie and 8000 word families to be able to read a book. Seems like you haven't hit the 8000 yet and should spend more times reading books and watch fewer movies.
>>204588148This is bloody awful. He's not even trying. His "normal" English accent makes him sound like a homosexual too.
>>204588385>>204588711>You'd need to have a very extensive vocab to understand everything without looking up some of the words on a dictionary.You act like this is something impossible for a terminally online ESL.
>>204588745I read Anne of Green Gables and it was "easy", now I'm reading The Old Curiosity Shop by Dickens and there are some parts like pic related that feel like a puzzle, he uses so many words that are out of date that you can't understand the book without a dictionary unless you're a Dickens scholar.
>>204589202>you can't understand the book without a dictionary unless you're a Dickens scholar.kekreed moor
>>204588335Do people really think this kind of prose is good?
>>204589332What would be good prose to you then?
>>204589202You understand that this is barely 150 year old literature, so contemporary English?
>>204589387Languages change drastically after 150 years.
>>204589545No they don't. Not every contemporary slang used among young people survives the few years it's popular.
>>204589579You’re so deluded: https://youtu.be/BrXUcEh0ncE?si=6pLcvzkb33Ebkc5-
>>204589377https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Portrait_of_the_Artist_as_a_Young_Man
>>204583929I just learned Kehlkopf (german for voice box) the other day.
>>204589757What do you think about Ulysses?
>>20459069390% of the people who cite Joyce never read him.
>>204591081says the monkey who can't even read Dickens
>>204590693Really hard, really good.
>larpers will now claim they understand thislmao this thread dude I swear...
>>204581929nvm this is atsikėliau, now i see how beautiful inflection is, word suffixes match and they convey all the nuance and connective meaning, pietų korėja -> iš pietų korėjos, Jonas Biliūnas -> Jono Biliūno „Kliudžiau“. so thats why all the names have to end in -s or -ė
>>204591547>ESL filtered by the first thunderwordOh my days
>>204591686You gotta be the biggest pseud not just in this thread but in this entire board lmao.
why are the macaco and the paki fighting? i ain't reading an entire thread of seethe posts to figure out on my own
>>204591921Call me that in real life and I'll beat you to death.
>>204592084u couldn't beat to death a fly if your life depended on it, sòylord
>>204591921>being le polyglot requires intelligence>no it doesn't>yes it does>well you failed at french despite be le romance speaker hehe what does that say about you>oh my- i can't believe he just said that! you know what all you guys suck and you're a bunch of woman haters and racists! take that!And everything since then has just been xer seething.
>>204592134amazing
>>204589114dem tiddies be droopin yo
>>204590693Portrait is his sweet spot, no question. Dubliners is pretty hit or miss (but when it hits it lands hard), while Ulysses is excessive. Portrait is a shining example of English prose and what the language can do at its best
>>204570989>Native but easyTelenovelas. Go-to shows, you can more or less understand them while being a bored housewife who's 80 IQ. Many of the words and phrases they say are common ones that you're gonna have to learn at some point, it's not some fringe phrases and sentences, they're basic core ones that are easy to understand and learn.I've moved on from them but watching one episode a night was a good bit of input until I really started understanding.
>Џ and Ђ>Ћ and Чthese motherfuckers sound the same to me in serbian. is there even a difference?
>>204582021Its been stuck in my head for a while now lol.
>>204581909toki pona is just esperanto for sòyboys.
Japanese internet has been super healthy for my mind. More and more I'm convinced Western culture is just unnaturally pessimistic tbqh
>>204593297There's a tremendous amount of ironypoisoned garbage that's seeped into Western culture in recent years/decades. Perhaps it's that
>>204592991Which Dubliners stories should I read? I've heard good things about 'The Dead'.
>>204588335>Debauchery>Thrush>Garret windowThese are really the 3 most difficult words, but Garret by far is the most. Thrush is a common bird. Debauchery is just not used a lot anymore. This was simple enough that I had to struggle to find difficult words, and putting this into my TL I know most of the words for them. It's actually fairly simple, and I imagine it would only confuse someone by the way it's written, not by the vocabulary.
Listened to a native level podcast in French about the life of Yuri Gagarin and understood it. We just have to keep on keeping on and we will all make it brothers. Well maybe not that Brazilian guy.
>>204593367yep, i hate that so much its unreal. nothing is ever serious anymore. everything is one big joke.
>>204593504he will make it too, he just has to keep grinding.
I'm doing flash cards for French grammar, how should I structure the one about adverbs? Right now it's like this:Front: What are the adverbs of quantity?Back: Beaucoup, assez, combien, trop, peu, plus, moinsBut then I'm thinking it might be better to structure it like this:Front: Translate the following adverbs of quantity:Beaucoup, assez, combien, trop, peu, plus, moinsBack: Their translationsWhich one should I go with?
>>204593367Kinda yeah.Even the Bible is insanely pessimistic though. Meanwhile you read the Rigveda and the smartest minds of Ancient India all believed life was pretty good as a whole. It's a trip because all my life I noticed the smart people were miserable for one reason or another, as if that's natural. Part of why I'm learning sanskrit is to understand that view.
>>204593382The Dead is the best one. They're not really connected so you may as well start there
>>204593570why not both? its two different questions basically
>>204593591Vedic life was good because it was unimaginably barbarous. The Vedics lived from fierce battle to sacrifice and found it good enough to pray for it to continue. When Hindu quietism intruded, pessimism accompanied it.
>>204593871Interesting. I don't know Hindu history, really. I suppose because the Gangetic plains were gorgeous, fruitful, and isolated from the outside world, it was like a mini paradise traded back and forth between kingdoms, or something? Might also be an interesting correlation between population sizes going on
>>204593561That is the funny part. All these guys all over the internet telling you their super secret ways to learn a language. Turns out all it is showing up and doing the work every day.
>>204593177We wouldn't need a different letter if it was the same sound.ћ is soft like in "cheap"ч is harder like in "choose"ђ is softer like in "jeep"џ is harder like in "just"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Serbo-Croatian
Japanese professor who is a Poleaboo. Not as strange as the Chinese professor teaching Esperanto, but still strange enough.https://youtu.be/ijJTkO6ExpA?si=xWdqH0qZbOWEKnjR
>>204594620God I wish I was Polish.
>>204593227Its also language for lazy people.
Why are "leeche cards" a thing in Anki? It shouldn't delete a card just because you're struggling with it, that's lame.
>>204580373Anzu used to be the queen of /int/, I haven't seen her posted for ages
>>204595905I believe it's just a tag so you know which cards you're struggling with and hopefully re-work them. You can set what happens to them automatically in your preferences.
>>204596983It would be fine if it was just a tag but Anki suspends the card as well.
>>204597102you can change that to "tag only" in options
>>204597463keep seething about italian massa, polack dogyou will never be whiteyou will never be humanyou will always be the round headed serfs of europe
>>204597528I am a blonde-haired, blue-eyed, 190 cm tall white man. You, on the other hand, are a short, brown-eyed subhuman.
>I am a blonde-haired, blue-eyed, 190 cm tall white man. You, on the other hand, are a short, brown-eyed subhuman.
No more brother wars
>>204597638But can you into space?>>204597764And can you into pineapple on pizza?
>>204597463>102* Poland>Read asterisk>"We have no data on this"kek
>>204598050https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rku-2Y96xLw
>>204598113>2017hmmm....
>>204598261Is there actually a /calm/ to go to?
>>204598322Others are from 2022. It's consistent, you can check out other sources out there.
>>204598424The problem is that you can't think your way out of geopolitical gridlock. Well... You can, but that is going to take time and who knows if you have that long.
>>204598322>>204598424These maps aren't based on actual IQ tests, but on approximations. The issue is that libtards are too scared to conduct actual IQ tests on a global scale, because the results wouldn't fit their tabula rasa doctrine.
>>204598550I have a suspicion that every nation in some way tampers with the results to get a better foot forward than they actually are. Either way I'm not really to worried about IQ because you can easily see if someone is low IQ by what they say and what they do.
>>204598476What do you mean by that? >>204598550Yeah, I'm aware of that, but it's still better than nothing.
>>204598754>What do you mean by that?You're IQ is, on average, higher than mine so you tell me :^)
>>204598676>I have a suspicion that every nation in some way tampers with the results to get a better foot forward than they actually are.It depends. Countries like China certainly do this when it comes to PISA. I can assure you that it isn't the case in Greece due to terminal leftism. In fact, the worse kids do, the better. lol
>>204593570I am too lazy to do thisI'd just have one card for each TL - NL, maybe as a sentence cardMaybe you'd just eventually memorise the list, that's what I'd worry about, and you wouldn't be able to instantaneously comprehend them when you're inputting
>>204598932I have my suspicions about what you're trying to say, but I want you to elaborate so we're on the same page.
>>204599391Honestly better POlack than Black :^)
>>204599443what's the difference?
>>204597463belgians real dumb
Lil Brown boy still seething kek.I wonder what happened to him. Probably a Polish bull fucked his sister.
does anyone else think languagejones is a dick?
>>204601016I hate languagejonesI watched his video on Stephen Krashen and it's full of falsehoods and misunderstandings and then he has a whine about ableism which is just pathetic His academic career is not about language learning, it's about culture and sociology which is great and yet he clearly recognises that language learning is a far more lucrative topic and tries to push himself into that area whilst claiming expertise He seems like a bitter man to meThe person I hate most of all is Canguro English though
Just imagine yourself learning Russian, yes russian, that fucking disgusting, nasty, putrid language. fucking inserting it into your brain. Having that goblin speak inscripted inside your memory.Now imagine people doing that deliberately to themselves.What have the world come to?
finally /calm/...
>>204583357Poles be likexczcwczcwzxwzzcwjwzkwjzwczjkcwzkcjwhwjzkcwsjwzksjwckszcwjkzcs bober
>>204587700facebook recommended me a short of some japanese lady with an english accent and i also cum'd on the spot
just did my first HSK1 deck and I liked it :D
I have autism
That's it bros, I'm tired of being a speak-let. I'm gonna start practicing reading out-loud daily in my TL until I stop stumbling over myself. Hopefully this will also help my reading in my head flow better.
>>204605019I just tried to read outloud in my Native Language btw, and I sound like an ESL when doing this. I guess reading out-loud is just a skill that needs to be practiced like any other.
is fluentU good for learning languages?
german is a fun languageis quite similar to english too when you are barely starting like i amunlike spanish, that calls the color red: Purple
>Streaming Boku No Pico with the bros for japanese inputI understand like half of the words without ever even trying to learn Japanese, why do people larp like it's hard?
>>204605973I agree but a lot of people complain about muh noun gender, muh noun case and muh word order. But it's actually a fun and interesting language if you focus on the positives. It doesn't have the initial hurdle of something like Chinese where you need to learn 2000 characters just to read the language at a basic level.
*clears throat in TL*
help me pleaseas part of my german certificate i have to study for listening comprehension where i have to listen to a natural speed audio recording of someone spelling their email and telling me their phone number in a mixed manneri.e., they spell separate letters, syllables / separate numbers and two/three numbers at a time.Like this:>0796134871Zero, Seventy Nine, Six, One, Three, Four Hundred & Seventy Eight, One.>example@email.come x a m p l e (at) e m a i l (punkt) comthe a in at is an umlautAnyway, when we were given a test run/simulation of the test, NONE of us managed to do it correctlywe have to train for this on our own, how to do it?
>>204608933also we were given a long list of words to know by the time we finish A1 and a lot of stuff that i haven't been reading yet and we're expected to know it all by 1-2 monthsmy only option is to study german daily now, as if it was one of my uni courses
>>204584696I love Poles though, brownoid.
무혐
>>204584696Anyone who considers XYZ person as subhuman is a subhuman themselves. I learned to evaluate people on a person by person basis. Yes, maybe, maybe at the population level the stereotype is true, but you will certainly come across outliers who do not deserve such treatment at all.A lot of Indians are well-rounded, smart, hard-working, etc.The street food filthy subhumans should not tarnish or affect how you would treat a proper, hard working human being.I am on 4chan, so some faggot is bound to come and say something to invalidate and reject my way of thinking, but I will preemptively tell you to suck my dick, chud cunt
>>204609016Why did you use this word out of nowhere
>>204608933find some level appropriate german audio on youtube and start listening at 1.1x or 1.25x speed. See if you can't work you way up to 1.5x or 2.0x on it. This should help you train your listening.
>>204610525thank you
have a shitty guide for learning korean using the learn german guide formatting. Going to reformat this and actually populate the watch section, but my brain is fried. will also add native content sources. Recommend me some good korean ci podcasts or other stuff that's missing.
Triumph of the Will is oddly good comprehensible input. Those dudes speak slowly and enunciate everything.Also Hitler trills his R's like I've never heard anyone in any language, damn.
>>204613162you should join the russian volunteer corps so you can fight shoulder-to-shoulder with azov brothers
>>204613244I hate hohol nazis, I only watched that shit for educational purposes.
>>204613274я пoнимaя, бpaтaн. yдaчи)))
>>204613434i swear the more i learn russian the worse i write in englishпoнимaю* БЛЯTЬ
>>204613162Not a commie, but people really enunciate in Swedish communist music too. Almost put on some weird accent sometimes. Maybe propaganda is the best comprehensible input.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jHq2r6BQA0
>>204609638김건희 무혐의 처분을 내린 것도 열 났기 때문에
fuck sucking at languages. i'm gonna go suck at CoD. later nerds.
how do I improve my target language in my sleep? I've been trying with those youtube videos but it ain't working
>>204613841단독으로는 잘 안 쓰이고, '무혐의' 이렇게 씁니다. 그리고 열 받았기라고 쓰는게 더 자연스럽습니다.
>>204612632I'm not learning Korean, but here's some piracy links and collection of CI you can include.https://old.reddit.com/r/FREEMEDIAHECKYEAH/wiki/non-eng#wiki_.25BA_korean_.2F_.D55C.AD6D.C5B4https://comprehensibleinputwiki.org/wiki/Korean
>>204612632Why would you want to learn bug language, and even non-anime one at that kek
>>204613872>it ain't workingI wonder why.
>>204617535probably because my sleep is too deep and my subconscious isn't alert enough.
>>204617630Yeah that's why.
>>204608933Small tip:Sometimes people pronounce 2 as "zwo" instead of "zwei" so you don't confuse it with 3.
should i be able to read émile zola easily if im b2?
>>20461807482 hours of French here and I can’t even read a single children’s book, let alone Zola or other classical writer. But I’m a stupid pathetic piece of shit, if you’re more intelligent than me you probably could read him after that amount of that.
>>204581909This song is stuck in my head now, not even the original version, this version is.
Could anyone rate this accent from the anon? Yeah you can check by clicking the button. I'm not sure whether he/she has American or British accent Yeah you can check with the click the buttonhttps://m.dcinside.com/board/English/449679
>>204618848You can post a voice reply if you install this application
>>204618848Sounds like an Irish accent or something, the way she says "are" especially. I know I've heard an Irish Youtuber who talked like that.
>>204619016>>204619052Sounds interesting I got to find some native English speakers who would post voice reply. One schizo has been spoiled the board
>>20461834682 hours of language learning is nothing, of course you can't read books yet
>>204613872I think it only really works when you're at audio-book level, or near-native in some other area. If you can sit down and listen to an audiobook your understanding is enough that your brain will piece it together whether conscious or not. If you're below that level you'd have to have some seriously dumbed down stuff, with the problem being that you're dumbing down the level so much it might be useless. If it's not native it actually might just be useless for sleep learning.
>>204617987not only that, but historically speaking, zwo is for feminine nouns, zween for masculine ones and zwei for neuter ones, and if you don't make this separation you're an asshole and i hate you
>>204613872You can't learn things in your sleep. It can't be done. Give up. Anyone who sells you this idea is a charlatan. Don't ever look for explanations for how it can be done. And don't ask me to explain why it can't be done. It's just not possible and you should completely forget about it and never consider trying it again.
>>204620432LUCID DREAMING FOR OUTPUT PRACTICE!
>>204620488lol I hadn't considered that but I kinda think lucid dreaming is a meme in the first place. Although I have had dreams where I'm practising the TL and it probably helps but only because it's my brain's way of digesting what I've been learning in the day or something, and it's not something I can do deliberately.
>>204580373What are the languages in this video?https://youtu.be/PImULCl_B2M
>>204619304Has been spoiling*
>>204620775How could you come across this random video out of nowhere
>>204620820You will come across a lot of those videos in the future.
>>204620921Doubt it
>>204613796It doesn't sound strange to me. Perhaps it's a difference of regionality for us that makes it sound off to you>>204618848To me she sounds like an asian ESL that learned english through american media or around americans
>>204621684So it's not that bad. She just want to improve her accent
>>204622000>So it's not that badDefinitely not. She's perfectly understandable
>>204588611>I have a CPE C2 Grade ABased. We should open a club. Though I barely squeaked by with the score of 220.
>learn thing>'uyhm acktually nobody says it like that'>repeat until demoralized and quit tl
>>204622829Colloquial language is not the only type of language that exists, moron.
>>204622848communication is all that matters in language, anything else is mental masturbation
>>204622829textbook bros...language classes bros...
>>204622892If you're able to say something that is understandable enough that the listener can identify the mistake and correct you, you've accomplished something
>>204622126She got bloody attacked for pronouncing 'It's going to be' as 'It's gonna be'The logic is like this > When reading formal text/books>If you see "be going to" written Read it as "be going to" (not "gonna")> Maintain the formal pronunciation that matches written form >In spoken conversation>You can use either "be going to" or "gonna" naturally>"Gonna" is informal/casual speech> It should be pronounced as 'going to' clearly because it's a part of the book
>>204622829I assume this is what everyone studying Finnish experiences
am i really supposed to memorize all this shit?i'm already getting vietnam flashbacks from all the years where i was abused and and forced to learn l*tin in shitalian schooland there are a billion of special cases toofuck this bullshit, cases are pure mental illness
>>204624012I was learning Finnish for like 3 weeks until the textbook said "ok now that you've learned all 50 trillion fucking cases, here's how Finnish people ACTUALLY speak"
>>204624365Blame Agricola, he didn't want to play favourites so our standard language (colloquially written language) usually uses forms that either no major dialect uses, or forms that everyone agreed was understandable
>>204624365Honestly it's not that extreme. It's similar to Korean. Finnish is not a particularly difficult language, but rather it seems relatively difficult when compared to English because English is a truly brainlet language. I can usually keep the nuance when translating from English to Korean, except in special cases, but when translating from Korean to English, the nuance always gets lost.
>>204624284Nah, you'll acquire an intuitive sense for these forms through lots of reading and listening, but admittedly it will take a long time.
>>204618346I have a suggestion. Don't have any faith in any particular method. Spend a little bit of time focusing on what you want to do. Pick a children's book and read it repeatedly, translating everything you need to translate, and always challenging yourself to understand more each time without needing to translate. You will notice improvement and be better at learning French from then on.
>>204625358that is the worst fucking advice i have ever fucking heardmr brazil don't listen to this guy please you will spend 10 years just to get beat up in france for saying the wrong thing because your language knowledge is so shit
>>204625434I just want him to stop spending time trying to learn the language in a way that hasn't been working very well for him and I think if he does something that gives him results it will teach him to pick up on the language better. It doesn't need to be multiple books or take him very long in the grand scheme of things.
>>204623197>>204625358Hiii English native Is it true?Is it considered bloody awkward whem it comes to the 'read out loud a book' context?
>>204625434>>204625530He just needs to goon these videos until he can understand cartoons:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRgZr6587O4
>>204626134the train graphic in the thumbnail triggered a pavlovian response in me to expect to hear cure dolly's voice.
>>204624284If this filters you, there's no point learning any language. Even Esperanto will force you to learn thousands of words. If you can't learn a few dozen morphological endings you have no hope of succeeding.... However, you shouldn't feel let down because you can easily overcome this hurdle!>>204625641Imo, yes it's strange to do this but the fact that no one writes "gonna" in formal contexts makes it more acceptable than shortening other things that can be shortened. At least you can imagine that the author wanted to write "gonna" but chose not to. Don't question my logic.The bigger problem underlying this one is that she shortens things too much, even when it isn't correct on any level. You can't end a clause with "they're". She shortens "they are" to "they're" twice at the beginning which is totally wrong. It doesn't just sound like a quirk of her pronunciation. To me it sounds like she's clearly saying "they're". She also shortens "you are" to "you're" (which imo is worse than shortening "going to" to "gonna").There are a lot of issues with her pronunciation but overall I think she does a good job at imitating an American accent. I would say that her pronunciation is far better than the average Korean.I could go into detail about her mistakes if you like
>>204626309Yes it's going to be helpful
>>204626645First of all, the one other obvious mistake you have probably already noticed: she says "half up a dozen" but this is probably her being bad at reading aloud.Some of her vowel qualities are a little off. "eating" sounds like "itting" and "even" sounds like "ivven" but she doesn't make this mistake every time, "but" sounds a little bit too close to "bat" (even though she distinguishes these vowels perfectly fine elsewhere and I might be nitpicking by mentioning this at all), the diphthong in "change" (and other words) sounds like it's too close to a pure vowel but it should be two clearly distinct vowels (however, some accents have this as a pure vowel, but not your typical American accent). "beforehand" sounds almost like "beforehend" but I think she might just be reducing the vowel too much."front" sounds almost like "fron", her "s" sounds are a little bit to close to "sh" sounds, for example "donuts" sounds almost like "donutsh". I'd be interested to hear how she pronounces words with "sh". The way she pronounces "n" is too subtle, particularly in "communal".The stress/rhythm/intonation is pretty good but there are a few things that sound off. "every now and then" has too much emphasis on "now" and not enough on "then". Getting this wrong sounds really weird to me. There are more mistakes like this but they're harder to pinpoint.Actually, there are more small mistakes in general that I can't explain
>>204626309>>204628023You must be a giga pronunciation chadI kneel
i love the russian and german languages, but don't know which to commit myself to first
>>204618848I just read this aloud, she did about as good as I would, I'd have less accent but make more mistakes as I'm not practiced at reading aloud. It's different from reading a speech, books aren't REALLY written to read aloud anymore, it's a skill you have to develop to get the pacing right. Out of everything the pacing here was most off, and that's just another skill. (and probably a good one to have, too.)
>>204580373Cute girl
Least gay/feminine telenovela?
>>204628360Languages are spoken in context. All you need to do is find videos of the particular context you're interested in speaking the language in.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcYXwNmDu_Q&t=630s
>>204633636Why should I trust an old video with only 800 views
broke my anki stream of 27 days
How many cards a day on average do you study in Anki across all the decks you have?
What are /lang/'s thoughts on Anglish (English only using Germanic words)
>>204636227It's cool
>>204636227ive just heard about it and i already think its mega based
>>204636227The thought of it became more pleasing to me after starting to learn French.
are interpal threads still a thing here? i looked but couldn't find any in the catalog
>>204636291>>204636585>>204636614I didn't realize /lang/posters were so based.For me, reading Anglish feels like it was written by an old wizard.
>>204636878Feels like reading tolkien but cranked up to autistic levels
>>204636820They do pop up sometimes, but not that often. Interpals is dead.
>>204636914https://anglisc.miraheze.org/wiki/Anglish_WordbookI found this dictionary, and they even have a column dedicated to spelling in a more Anglo-Saxon way, but that is simply a bit too autistic for me. Cool that they have it though.The word for "memorable" ["munƿorðie" (munworthy)] is one of my favorites.
>>204637167what's the new site to meet cute asian girls?
>>204637173>anglisc wikiI love this website, probably one of the best resources for anglish out there.
>>204637228It would be fun to have an Anglish general thread on /int/
>>204637195>siteWake up grandpa, no one uses websites anymore. It's all about mobile apps now.
>>204637395yeah yeah yeah apps, okay. what are the best apps? oh, are there like discord servers for it or something?
>>204637282It wouldGermanic words are so much more comfy, not only that they are simply easier to understand and it makes english a lot more regular
>>204637467I think the people who run anglish wiki have a discord, u might be able to talk to more anglish speakers there, idk i don't use pisscord
>>204636227Old English already exists and is better than this LARP shit.
>>204637509i want to talk to cute asian girls idgaf about anglish
>>204637558I study OE and I love it, but this isn't really comparable. It's like comparing Afrikaans to 12th century Middle Dutch.
>>204637195i am not telling you the site i use, but I will taunt you with this picture of a girl i met there. i get so many messages there that its hard to keep up, and honestly im not even that handsome
>>204637993okay, nice job being a faggot about it, i guess?
>>204638169>okay, nice job being a faggot about it, i guess?it is my specialty produce a vocaroo of you speaking your target language and ill give you the link
>>204638369is this a guarantee? you won't suddenly say you didn't like my voice so i can go fuck myself, right? because that sure seems like something a gigantic faggot would do
btw speaking of dictionaries i found this latin dictionary with a bunch of neo-latin terms the other day if anyone wants to check it outhttps://archive.org/details/TheLexiconAnglumEtLatinumByDavidMorgan
>>204638682Great find. I love the idea of utilizing Latin in neo-academia environments.
>>204638531The AGGC (Asian Girl Gatekeeping Committee) has reviewed your application and has unfortunately decided on your denial.
>>204636227Based.
>>204637993Who the fuck takes a selfie at this angle?
>>204639244>>204639244>>204639244
>>204639095is it hellotalk? if not I'll do one
>>204639171This is how 90% of interacting with Asian women is like. They'll post the most egregious angles, edit pictures, overuse make-up, and then when you meet them they're 5'0 and look like a stereotype caricature.
>>204640341>them they're 5'0this is a good thing?
>>204640907No? I'm 6'1, even girls who are 5'10 are short to me. Who besides short guys specifically target tiny women? Latinas are short too, but at least they have bunda and better faces than Asians.
>>204641230i just think they're cute
