Discussion concerning Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Rose Guns Days, Higanbana, TRianThology, and all other 07th Expansion works.07th Expansion archive:1drv.ms/u/s!Apo9jt_5n1kcbruVfFQLmtYesrY?e=q2ARE6Password: 07Old archive backup at:magnet:?xt=urn:btih:311bb86e9f983a9393cca7d2190233c5b86a872c&dn=07th%20Expansion%20archive&http://trhttp://=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.opentrackr.org%3a1337%2fannounce07th Links:pastebin.com/XjcX45p6Umineko colored truths script:greasyfork.org/en/scripts/418818-4chan-umineko-colored-truths/codePrevious thread: >>47360596
starting this thread with Rika
>>47378964Rika's little hands
How dare you ignore the Ange post in the beginning...
>>47379040
>>47378903enje!
So dokkyun heart girl is coming on the sixth, right?
Seeing shipping pics of Batora and Yasu happy together makes me think of how Arc-V had a seemingly happy ending but really everyone's fucking dead
>>47379082there's a lot of stories like that, one that comes to me immediately is darling in the franxx with both protags dying but two kids who look like them met in the future so it's a happy ending!!gotta love the bittersweet that thinks it's more sweet than bitter
Witch world is real btw.
>>47379106Yeah? Prove it then?
Uu.
>>47379055The cutest, sweetest and most precious
We are in agreement Rika BTFOed shitoko
>>47379377No, Rika lost to both Shion and Satoko, read the VN
>>47379410You're such a poor loser.
>>47379430Shion seems to be winning in that picture though
>>47379437Through grace and friendship all is redeemed
someone's not a fan of the kinzo op
>>47379519What makes you think that?
>>47379519YAMI WO KIRISAKU OH DESIIIIIIREEEE
>>47379539Kill yourself
>>47379029Okay engefag tell me to what degree you like lolinge compared to JKnge
>>47379548IKERU BASHO NAKI OOOOH MY PRAYER
>>47379552Rude crossboarder.
>>47379557nta but I like adultge the more
>>47379622here's ACTUAL adultge (peak ange)
>>47379022saved and cummed
>>47379640>what do you mean you dont recognize me even though I'm literally a different race now??!!
>>47379656Holy cute
Ruinous Thunder!
>>47379640>Twitter memesBan umineko from these threads
whh was there too much sayo last thread
>>47379684we are one but many
>>47379640/vg/-tier "meme"
imagine coming back after 6 years and finding the smart quirky girl you knew is now a brainless bimbo
>>47379813I think Battler would be more surprised seeing the flat chested boy he grew up with now pretending to be a girl
>>47379640(x) This post is extremely low quality.
Ehh
Pig.
>>47379813credit to him he did still recognise her though
Buta.
>>47379815>man, it's nice to have a friend I can talk to about books with. I'll tell him I'll rescue him on a white horse somedaytime to daydream in my own kakera
Posted it again award
>>47379838which is worse, that or this
>>47379847this
>>47379847Judging by archive reposts, that
>>47379838Thanks
s-sextoko?!
>>47379935>ShiToko got postedShionbro... RUN
>>47379847holy crap that's hot
>>47379847FTFY
>>47379980Add in nipple piercings. Also the hat. stays. on.
if sayo knew about steroids why didn't she order estrogen
>>47380006Those wouldn't help with their reproductive apparatus,?but she could grow some breasts.Maybe she didn't want to give up on her Kanon identity, or she was too old when she found out about those drugs.
>>47379935ShitShi
>>47379832This post is extremely high quality.
>>47379684>too much sayono such thing
>>47379980shannipples
>>47380042>Kanon-kun! You look...a little different lately! You seem, um, fuller, or something, aha...! >It's n-nothing, milady ...I've started working out, is all. Yes, that's it. Such a bother...
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>>47380124Jessica would be even more interested after and not understand why>>47380135steam battler is so grody
I'm the dude playing a dude disguised as another dude
>>47380407We know you are gay, kanonfag
>>47379633Very kyute. Would headpat and buy her hag ice cream.
The fact that Kanon is a glib facsimile of what an isolated nutjob thinks "cool boys" are like and that Kanon has a large female following is pretty funny
>>47380175I play with the original sprites, grodiness solved
>>47380663Welcome to Rokkenjima, where the tea is definitely poisoned
>>47380564What do you think is a TRUE cool boy?
>>47380942Someone like ME
>>47378832delete this
Shannon = LambdeltaKannon = Bernkestal
>>47381121makes sense, lambda was the guarantor for sayo's witchhood, all based around fate, certainty, etckanon's more of a stretch, but proto-Erika Virgillius was supposed to be the "man from 19 years ago", so technically another Lion and another male side of Sayo (and he's introduced in Saku as "a boy? a girl?" so there was probably going to be gay shit with him). And of course, Kanon has the cynicism and denial as well.
>>47381163Shakanontrice theory is about some long-con dual identity, when it could also be a short term, improvised plan, where Shannon killed Kannon right before the incident or visa versa. So we don't have to look too deep into their subpersonalities.
>>47381211I'm telling you guys, there's an incredibly easy alternative. Kanon is the original owner of the "Shannon" servant name and the one who's been on the island for ten years while the one we know as Shannon is a new hire. It works perfectly with Kanon's cynicism and introversion and Shannon's general cluelessness. Kanon would have written the stories to see if Battler could figure out where his old friend really "went", or to try and "revive" his old self in the new Shannon by making Battler believe she was actually smart enough to come up with it, or to subtly communicate his fears of Shannon taking over his old friendship by portraying her as a murderer... or a roulette of all of those. You could even interpret ep3's sudden shift in Beatrice's character as Shannon taking over as Beatrice, which even explains Lambda suddenly having control over Bea when ep2 implied no such thing.
>>47381211I don't really know what you mean, I think they are pretty deep subpersonalities>>47381228shannon was written as clumsy because she didn't care about being a perfect servant anymore at that point, but just being in love with george. so there was actually two shannons, one was Servant Idol Shannon when sayo was a child, and then post-puberty, there's George Girlfriend Shannon. Kanon definitely does represent Sayo's original sarcastic bite and cynicism she had as "yasu", and the striving perfectionism for being a better servant a little bit, but also resigned to be "furniture", as she learned about her infertility. So it's not a positive goal anymore, to be a servant, but a negative one. So you can say, perhaps, Shannon v1.0 turned into Kanon. It's also a misnomer to say only "Sayo" wrote the first two episodes - we get extended date scenes from both Shannon's and Kanon's emotional perspectives, and I believe they did "co-write" the episodes too in their own ways, as unique personas. I don't consider this too complicated, or even anything like "DID" - it's more like, let's say, someone's "work self" and "family self" and "friend self", that might be at odds with one another. I'm sure ryukishi as an author deals with this a lot too in even just writing different characters that all reflect different parts of himself (which gives Umineko the unique sensation of a bickering fight inside one's mind when trying to work out an internal dilemma). It all feels very natural to think about it like this, for me at least.
>>47381306>>47381228oh yeah and kanon fucking sucks ass as a servant too, his twink ass can't even push a wheelbarrow. "sayo" wrote them both as failures, kanon was just kind of still a nag about it, while shanons like "^_^ idc lol"
rokkenjima jiken could have been avoided if kinzo built a cvs on it
>>47381306I think it's more a sudden personality disorder than a baked one. Shannon and Kannon were for a long time, two people. It makes more sense then tricking the family for years of switching wigs.
>>47381349I don't think she did for that long, and most of the family never saw the two often, and she had accomplices. I think that's enough justification. The situations of Episode 1 and 2 never happened before in reality, they never had a shift together like that, so she didn't need to switch that often (nor did she ever, it seems). Her showing up to Jessica's school (her school too??) as Kanon in a heavy disguise shows that the disguise wasn't perfect or anything (Erika-As-Detective also never got to examine them deeply). The only way I can think your theory works is if people who were once like shannon and kanon did work for Fukuin once and Sayo adopted their personas for herself (sort of like Beatrice).
>Sayo can't have children>Battler never has children>Ange never has childrenwhat did ryu mean by this
Who is the best 07th character and why is it Mion? (I love her so much)
>>47381800
>>47381792sayo would basically be the weird tomoko of the schoolhow hard would she become a fujoshi, I wonder
>>47381808If I can ever put a smile like that on her face, I will be able to die happy.
>>47381800Brain empty
>>47381836No no!! Brain full of smart and love and cool and awesome and kind!!!
>>47381585If you can't have something, why should anyone else get to? Wouldn't that be selfish of them? They should think about your feelings!
>>47379813Many such cases with you kind.
what is Ange good for?
>>47382658Sausage, bacon, ribs, ham, lard, trotters, tail.
Sweet beautiful Ange
Demons begone.
It doesn't even have the correct hashtag
RIKA RIKA RIKA
>>47383391
>>47383622
where did anons go? take me there
>>47385452i'm in the golden landyou're NOT allowed in
>>47385534>anon posting from the afterlife
>>47385534pls ill do anything
>>47385452probably the /a/ thread which is ten times better than this shithole
What did you all think of the Umineko remake anime news? Pretty insane. I don't think they can pull it off.
>>47386030what? source, nigga
>>47386030Can't be any worse than the VN, might surpass it even
>>47386046>might surpass it evenThe manga already did that.
>>47386030Dare I ask which studio?
>>47386030
>>47386906Would still be beat by the elf
>>47386539
>NOOO EVERYBODY LOVES ME I GOTTA KILL EVERYONE
>>47387427>Breaking up is such a faff>I can't stand awkward goodbyes>Breaking up is such a faff>I'll just sweat it out until they diehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pGkY_RHJIs&t=34s
The Rokkenjima incident was Yasu giving everyone Monkey Pox. Yes, even Maria. Especially Maria
>>47387600>high heels
>>47387603Those are, uh "short king" shoes.
>>47387603Don't forget the heart.
bros...
>>47387821Serves that pervert right!
>>47387946
>>47378832
>>47387821
>>47388115US-style 3rd floor or UK-style 3rd floor
didn't the mansion the rokkenjima mansion is based on/that's used for images not have a third floor?
>>47388325Either. I wouldn't put it past Kinzo to jump from a fourth floor window.
>>47388349No it doesn't but who cares anyway, the mansion interior is a mishmash of like 3 different ones.The real Maeda house also has a connecting hallway to a Japanese style building with tatami rooms.
>>47387600What's the matter anon?Do androgynous boys in fem clothes give you uncomfortable feelings?
I have never read cico, can anyone give a definite answer if Miyao is a boy, or a girl, so I can jerk off safely
I hope Battler humiliated Yasu (forma de Italiana) in every way possible for writing EP2
>>47389594Anon-kun, anon-kun, that's not how spoiler tags work!
>>47389608>using discord spoilers in a 4chan threadI'm so embarrassed I wanna kill myself.
>>47388627go play it and find out for yourselfThe character has both male and female personalities. Their biological gender is not revealed.
>>47389623We know from the second you mentioned Ciconia
>>47388627If it came down to a bet I'd bet on him having a dick. But yeah it's one of those things, Ryu's obsession with mystery gender is stronger than ever.Characters have to make themselves into schizos to be able to use modern computers with double thinking power, and when you go schizo sometimes they end up different genders. And Miyao probably has several personalities.The cancelled Ciconia 2 probably would've featured a metric ton of schizophrenia and personality disorder.
>>47389863>The cancelled Ciconia 2 probably would've featured a metric ton of schizophrenia and personality disorder.Considering how a shitty hack Ryukishi07 is at writing, not doubt that this was the only idea.
>>47388627It’s a catbox for now. Female Miyao makes more sense to me because if majority of GKs are girls then it would be unusual for a biological male to be the P3 world record holder. That said I do think Ryukishi is likely to give him a dick if it means making Jayden gay
I can understand the appeal and usefulness of catbox stuff for other things like murder or whatever, but I just don't understand why he decides to fuck around with "gender" too and unncessarily complicate things that are comparatively very simple, out of some weird obsession. It is, I suspect, at least some of the reason Umineko is neglected outside of the west. It is very, very annoying.
Is Miyao the Anti-Yasu? Everyone knows they're a DID gender freak tranny and that's an open fact not a deep dark secret.
>>47390311Miyao still got his dick
>>47390366ogey rrat
The Jeshka figurine seems to be arriving early, on my birthday. That makes me happy.
>>47390055posting or visiting this thread is a sign of mental illness
>>47390401congratulations anon!! I hope your jeshka finds you well!
>>47390401You must have saved up a lot.
>>47390510She was 62 dollars new with free shipping, that's less than a video game these days. Might save up for the Shannon figurine but I'd probably end up taking a blowtorch to it while blasting Rog Limitation
>>47390537kek, bargain bin waifu.
>>47390070As a rule I think R07 will go for whatever is most uncomfortable, which in this case would be making Miyao's body a boy. Though, being a girl would really make Miyao a "witch" - one who must alter the laws of reality to get ahead rather than rely on their natural strength
>>47390537>I'd probably end up taking a blowtorch to it while blasting Rog Limitationmake sure you record it if you do, top tier content there
>>47390566>Though, being a girl would really make Miyao a "witch"Well, witch is a sex neutral term, even males are labelled witches Although IMO, it seems the more typically male you are, the more resistant to magic you are, considering they (according to ryu, I presume) fit into reality/society better and don't need to cultivate magic as much to compensate, unless you have particularly unfortunate circumstances.
>>47390537Most Jessica fans I meet like Shannon
>>47390694The only cosplayers I ever seen in the wild were a Jessica and Shannon pair
>>47390694That's because they didn't think of the(quite obvious) implications. Ugh when that little shit teases Jessica for not having a boyfriend ugh
>>47390698They're pretty easy to cosplay. For Jessica it's just a blazer over a skirt, and I'm sure theres tons of french maid outfits out there
>>47390731Jessica got pretty caught up in girl-talk which hurt sayo a lot too
>>47390731>>47390731they enjoy fucking with each other, it's all fair game
>>47390862Ah this one's so good, I forgot Erika's dress used to be Jessica's
>battler and sayo on a date after meeting each other online>she spends 3 hours explaining the script for her future video essay about locked room mysteries>battler says he totally has to go to the bathroom and never returns
>>47390891>implying battler wouldn't be interested in talking aboutt mysteriestotally not a book-reader though, he only reads 99 books a year and not 100
>>47390611>Well, witch is a sex neutral term, even males are labelled witches R07 says that, but then pulls "Sorcerer" for Battler (é”術師, Majutsu). The whole "Witch is gender neutral" stuff is only there to hide Beatrice's identity and later Yasu's gender.
>>47390817>girl talk with someone else about an archetype you dislike and happen to hurt feelings by being eavesdropped in by an aspiring serial killer>get teased in a one to one conversation with your """"""friend"""""" who knows exactly what she's doing>get shot in the fucking face
What a garbage thread.
What a gold thread.
>>47391585/07/th split when? I feel like these threads would be so much better if Higufags got their own containment thread
>>47391492I mean he is called a witch at first>>47391566that never actually happened though
>>47391618>higufagsWe all know higufags are not the problem, anon. Neither are umifags, or cicofags.
>>47391629>neither are umifags, or cicofagslmao
>>47391629I understand
>>47390537Well, better than hotgluing
Say what you will about the Higurashi anime, the OPs are straight bangers
>>47390537>but I'd probably end up taking a blowtorch to it while blasting Rog Limitationbased...
>>47391566yasu is such a piece of shit character man
>>47391969Considering how poorly written it was (it literally comes out at the end of the story), it's shit compared to the ending of Higruashi, when the adult Bernkanstel talks to the young Takano.
>>47391888You can always count on Deen for that.
>>47392294Once while sleep deprieved I thought Rika was talking to me when she said I had to eat a thousand needles. Ate grilled cactus that day
>>47392051So what happened with that shit did Fredrika send Takano to die or to avert her parents death?
I like Higurashi but you can only talk about which BPDemon you wanna fuck so many times before it gets old. Umineko at least ended in such a way you can still speculate about the mystery, mainly because R07 is a Mystery Box hack.
>>47392303"Simply" created an alternate world I think. Made a happier branching path.
>>47392051Higurashi ending was kino. Despite all her troubles, Bern/Rika gives Takano a chance at a happier life, even if just in another timeline. Meanwhile Ryu just has to double down on Yasu being the most saddest character ever and it ends up turning her into a selfish sack of shit if you examine it at all.
I liked the final TIP for Higurashi too. Thought they really fumbled the potential of the sword.
>>47392430I guess I'm a moron I thought with that "death" "death hamburger flag" shit she just gave Takano the ability to die with her parents
>>47392460NTA but I read it like that too
>>47392460You're not a moron, it's been a while since I read that epilogue but I remember thinking that was a possibility too. The final flag is what she would've gotten if she had been with her parents on the day they died in the crash. Though it's not explicit in what happens I think.
>>47392430>it ends up turning her into a selfish sack of shit if you examine it at allAs opposed to Takano?
>>47392303The VN scene goes further than the anime's. And, yes it averts her family's death.r07 wrote a novel around the time of the Higurashi Answer Arcs showing a middle schooler "Miyoko Tanashi" (even before that was revealed to be Takano's name in Higurashi). Presumably, that's the world Bernkastel created. There is a manga adaptation since it started before the Takano reveal in Higurashi, it doesn't actually use Takano's design for Miyoko.By the way, Miyoko Tanashi here is a shit who spreads urban legend rumors that even lead to bullying just to leave a mark so she can be remembered through those legends after she leaves the school.
>>47392737>Miyoko Tanashi here is a shit who spreads urban legend rumors that even lead to bullying just to leave a mark so she can be remembered through those legends after she leaves the school.That's an interesting bridge between Takano and prankster Yasu. Then who makes Yasu into a witch? Lambdadelta.
>>47392772sayo = 34 as wellthe idea of bully victims and scapegoats leaving behind a legend to live forever is also explored in higanbana (and also the new testament)
phase 2?
>>47393624Infiltrating on reddit
New Mei stuff:Miyuki:https://files.catbox.moe/oljuii.txtNatsumi:https://files.catbox.moe/zadc6i.txt
>>47394545
>>47394550
>>47394552
>>47395042It's cute seeing different glires getting along together for once
>>4739528107th?
>>47395372Yes, this is the threadWelcome anon
>>4739504207th>>47395281>>47395379not 07th
ryuukishi JAV debut
>>47395442>>47395379>>47395372>>47395281wtf is happening and what they want?
>>47395552>3dpd whore postkill yourself
>>47395042>>47395281>>47395379>>4739555207th>>47395442>>47395559not 07th
this thread has some of the most obnoxious schizos ever
>>47395899The solution is simple: ban Rika"fans" and Umischizos
>>47396009rikafags post rika, umifags post umishitwhat do shitcordtokofags post?
>>47393624Extremely cute. Would buy TWO ice cream cones for her.
>>47396102Umifags at least try to discuss umineko once in a blue moon, but ratkafags only post cuck porn or have a meltdown every time something they don't like is posted
>>47396298ratka is shitoko's name, sorry rat
>"If you don't wish to discuss anything, what if you simply... didn't post? It's like the old saying- it takes more muscles to frown than to smile. I'm not sure I believe in that, but it's certainly true for typing out posts on the internet."
I-m not sure how many people optimize their lifestyle for minimal amount of muscle movement.
>>47396422rat doesnt seem to get it, he created his shitcord and still comes here like a social media attention whore he is
Name me a more forced meme than the rika rat. I'll wait.
>>47396526The anon not seething at whatever hurt his feelings this morning one
>>47396526SatoKei>Verification not required.
>>47396557It doesn't count if it's Ryu forcing it.
>>47396570By making Satoko give birth to Mr. Kimiyoshi's daughter? lmao
>>47396592K1miyoshi*
>>47396602Cope accepted.
>>47396612How can you be coping and accepting the truth at the same time
>>47396630The same Kisaku can raise K1's child despite not being his.
>>47396651The same way?
>>47396664yeah
>>47396526pretty much everything that comes from that group of idiots reallyi mean fucking 'rangepass'? really? it's just embarrassing
>>47396715I guess rangepass is what hurt him this morning.
what's her endgame
>>47396971>herryukishi is a man
>>47396971stealing married men and locking them in her fortress of solitude (mansion)
>>47396988>ryukishi is a man
>>47396988For now.
>>47395552he's finally getting the surgery
not this shit again
>>47395552>Ladies and gentlemen, I'm very proud to announce, another Ciconia delay!
>>47397075Ryuukiko the golden witch
>>47397174>I'll quit being a social servant...and become a visual novel author!!
>>47397219
>>47397250Any ways to compartmentalize your wagie self into a completely different person?
>>47397250stupid child NO!
Why are umineko fans and Mion fans such losers irl?
>>47397282Doesn't everyone??>>47397319I'm not a loser, I'm a witch!
>>47397364Don't give that fag replies, he's desperate now
>>47397385Desperate about what?
>>47397319Umineko fans for obvious reasons and mion fans subce there seems to be a trend among them of not having any friends growing up and desperately clinging to the idea of having a cute kind friend who invites them to hang out, pretty much manchildren who haven't matured enough
>>47397495
>>47395552what kind of work is it?
>>47397567prostitution
It makes too much sense that a Mediterranean ended up like she did
>>47390537>>47390694>>47390862JeSha gods are extemely powerful. We are merciful, however.
Damn I thought the /a/ thread was garbage when looking up for discussion about what new thing Ryukishi was doing but its even worse here.
>>47397844It's probably gonna be Silent Hill F related.
Rika-chan is growing healthy
Today is the day
>>47398210Just dont cum on her, please
>>47398210Glad your nofap is finally about to end
>>47398145Rika filming her pet rat Satoko
>>47398244That's a weird camera in her mouth
https://twitter.com/MangaMoguraRE/status/1816808697147847168
>>47398439Is the promo image indicating it's yet more Higurashi slop?
>>47398453I don't think so. They most likely chose it because Higurashi is what most people would recognize out or Ryukishi's catalog.
>>47398439>"Higurashi" creator Ryukishi07Based.
>>47398439From the guy who created the quirky 80s murderfest AND NOTHING ELSE
>>47398473Nobody remember that either, real fans only remember about Higurashi
>>47398473All of his other works are just Higurashi spinoffs, after all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmMNPTs3cacCould have KyoAnus pulled it off ?
>>47398554Yeah, by publicly executing Ryu before he completed this piece of shit VN
>>47398574Zero days without crying about kinoneko
>>47398611Zero days without metaphorically emptying my bowels on the tranny seagull novelDrink up bitch
>>47398630Finished crying, bitch?
>>47398640My anus finished crying alright, sorry about the mess I have irritable bowels I think I improved it
Feels good to be an UmiChad with a complete story, while higurashit gets whored out every year for money by ryushitty
>>47398649Maybe in your next time you'll be gifted with complete genitals too.
What is it with satokofags and mentioning trannies in every second post?
What is with transexual umineko fans and mentioning Satoko out of nowhere? Are they that disturbed by transphobia?
>>47398677Posted it again awardProjected again award
>>47398682Try to project an intact penis between your legs, freak.
>>47398691And again
https://warosu.org/jp/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=++++What+is+with+transexual+umineko+fans+and+mentioning+Satoko+out+of+nowhere%3F+Are+they+that+disturbed+by+transphobia%3F
someone's here just in time to make a new satoko op i see
>>47398702You?
>>47398702Make enje op QUICK
>>47398702>>47398712>>47398714kill yourselves discordniggers
>>47378832Found it
>>47398714i don't partake in thread wars, sorryalso if pointing it out actually made him delay making a new thread i'm gonna laugh even harder
>>47398761>>47398740obsessed with rats, niggers
Imagine believing threads are made based on how much you seethe at this time of the day
>>47398769At the year 2024
a bunch of normalfag nigger cunts rikahater bullies in here. that's why normalnigger will get beheaded and bullies will fuck off. i was quiet for a while but now they really went far
>>47398772War was beginning?
>>47398778WHAT HAPPEN ?
>>47398776
>>47398778
>>47398782Someone set up up the bomb
>>47398796WHAT !
>>47398903rena-chama...
>>47398867kill yourself mindboggling nigger>>47398959it's rika joke you fat rikahater
>>47394545Huh, so the outfit just comes out of nowhere in the story? It's not even a real "date" Miyuki going on with the entire club.
>post about Yasu being a female deleted(((satokocord))) doesnt want you to know the truth
>>47402681Thanks Satocord for deleting the tranny's attempt at passing as a biological female
>>47402703go suck off your janny boyfriend, tranny
>>47402714That's no way to refer to Yasu and Genji, anon
