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How hard is the N1? Can I pass it just by watching minecraft vtubers?
>>48046073N1 is roughly the equivalent of a Japanese third grader.
>>48046108...so i can pass it by watching minecraft vtubers
I have a few questions for the anons here that are of a relatively high level at this whole 日本語 thing.1. Did spoken-Japanese lose its appeal/novelty as you became more and more fluent in the language? I’ve heard someone say that Japanese eventually sounded like normal talking and they couldn’t even really remember what it sounded like when it was all foreign to them.2. Do you feel more satisfaction at being able to understand spoken Japanese or being able to read Japanese? Which of the two do you feel more proud of accomplishing, if any?Do you now or have at any point felt more of an obsession towards the Japanese language itself rather than what you learned the language for in the first place? For example, I like many other people here decided to learn Japanese because I was getting into anime and played tons of Japanese games, however as I get further and further into learning the language I start to care less about learning for the anime and the video games and instead just care for the language itself if that make sense.
>>48046073>>48046111I would assume that the vocabulary would be limited to what’s within the game, so maybe not.
>>48046119stfu faggot
願いとは自身を叶えるもの。だが自ら願いを叶えては、人間は救われん ok i know it's just chuuniranting and i should just move on but this sentence is confusing me so much with 自身 and 自ら. 自身 can either mean oneself or something itself, so does the first sentence mean that wishes fulfill people or fulfill themselves? and the second sentence means people fulfilling their own wishes?
>>48046164wishes should be granted you from an outside force. trying to fullfill your own desires by yourself is not how humans are saved
...ふむ、雲神さまについて知りたいと。よかろう、心して聞くがいい。むかし、むかし、空に雲海がなかったころ...。海を泳ぐ鯨の群れに、白い身体を持つ子が生まれたそうな。しかし、黒き身体の鯨たちは、白き身体の鯨を蔑み、虐げ、ついに殺してしまったそうな。その姿を哀れんだ神々は、白鯨の魂を天で蘇らせたという。神の力を得て蘇った白鯨は、雲を吐き出して、争いなく泳げる雲の海を創ったそうな。こうして、白鯨は雲の神、雲神さまとなられたのだ。心優しき雲神さまは、海に浮かぶ島々を、雲海に引きあげなされ、虐げられていた民を導いた。こうして、こうして、バヌバヌもまた、雲海の民となったのだ。
>>48046156can i pass it by watching japanese tv then? i like watching the news...
>>48046156>calling other people names for asking questions about Japanese in a Japanese-learning threadPlease post a picture of yourself; I’m curious to see how cool and tough you actually look
>>48046119listening is 10000000000% harder than reading. Any beginner can read anything if they have yomitan, but only really good learners can listen to anything
>>48046212you can only pass it by studying for it sorry
>>48046178nothing like that is in the screenshot
>>48046119I don't feel satisfaction nor pride in any of those, I just hate myself whenever I failed to understand anything. To get rid of the shitty feeling I gitgud.
>>48046164this is your answer. there is no longer a need for you to post this again. don't harp over chuuni dialogue, it's verbose for the sake of it and spending this much time over one time is setting you back.
feels good knowing that im part of the 1% of japanese learners whos actually gmi
>>48046397ngmi
>>48046412notice that said chuuni dialogue was too hard for fakeshit
>>48046119
>>480461191. it did for matt2. for matt it was understanding spoken3. that was the case for matt
>>48046448if comparing yourself to n5 dekinais makes you proud, idk what to tell you
>>48046156https://vocaroo.com/18jT5Xtx469M
誰かがいるかい？
だれもいない
なんか声が聞こえる。どこから来たなんだい？
しごおわ
34 your mom's ass12nice enjoy the rest of your day
>>48046734来たんだいな>>48046815ty i will be playing vidya and eating
tonight feels like a good night bros
just 10 months ago djt was hitting bump limit pretty regularly
>>48046889we lost a lot of elite human capitalthankfully im still here
When do i use が instead of は?
>>48046889we could get back to that point but the power posters are still power fucking their asses over on trash instead of contributing here.
>>48046895because ydkj?>>48046896lol
>>48046893yeah and from what i heard there's two of you now @_@ me ga mawaruuuu
>>48046902theres only ever been mefakeshit retreated back to a new tripcode once he realized he wasnt convincing anyone
no posts at all and the suddenly >>48046886>>48046889>>48046893>>48046895>>48046896>>48046898>>48046902>>48046906its unnatural
>>48046911i'm only 96. i don't think it's unnatural for there to be occasional bursts in posting.
>>48046898>because ydkj?i don't get it
>>48046911why so paranoid?>>48046916read more
>tfw N1 in 40 days but I still have 3k vocab left in my deckAAAAAGH
yikes, damn, kill japs! B^)
>>48046920youll make it broi believe in you
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PhuiichnqIs
what would you guys say is the most common question we get from newbies?feels like a lot of people ask about whether they need to learn kanji individually
there was no no
there wa no wa
lol
>>48046929cunny~ ToThttps://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm35413331
>>>/int/203659815lol
>>48046975lil bro needs to work on his grammar if hes seriously asking that lol
>>48046970>>48046975you shouldnt say lol unless you actually laughed irl
>>48046983thanks for not quoting my post since i actually laughed
>>48046983can't remember if i actually laughed or not but i disagree
>>48046985oh sorry i stopped reading that halfway through
>>48046987lil lazy boy right here
lesson learned hide your lols at the very end of your post
>>48046989bro you are clearly a neet or have a job where you can shitpost on the computer all day
as for me neet
alright everyone take a break from djt for a few hours. bunko is clearly in a bad mood and he's not putting up with nonsense
why does 4chan sometimes replace words i type with desu
>>480469921. i dont post very often and have a wife that pays for everything + a lot of $$$ in the bank2. you claim to work only 16 hours so not sure who youre trying to impress
>>48047002but there are so many posts with that name onare you claiming they arent all you?
>>48046999to be honest it's because 4channians like to spam certain meme words and it requires top down discouragement
>>48046999filter on tbһ (tb h)
4chan needs more moderation but hiromoot doesnt care
>>48047006you keep getting my trip banned so this is the way its gotta be for now
>>48047014nigga whathow would i have access to your trip it doesnt make sense
>>48047017they arent exactly hard to crack
>>48047020make a new secure one like mine
>>48047028why so you can crack it again? ive gone years without needing one and it seems youre done copying my name so i dont see the point
神様は騙されない
>>48047058you didnt answer me
>>48047060i wont reply to you again until you stream or post a new vocarooif you try posting my old one again i will reply only the link to the archive where i posted it originally (cant believe i have to say this but thats the level you are at rn)
>>48047062you have all my old vocaroos memorized on archive? how many is that?
>>48047062new level of schizo behavior for you, very disappointing
unko...
>>48047069dw bro fakeshit is clearly having a bad day esp after nangumi and the translation tantrum yesterday. just ignore him
why are you learning japanese?
>>48047104thanks bro appreciate the support
おはようおにいちゃんダンダダン３話が盛り下がった４話で復活するかな？
>>48047156go away
does anyone know how to say 何組? been having trouble with it after playing persona 2
きがえちゅう…？きがえじゅう？？
kigae10
The more unique cards I've processed in total, the higher my cortisol levels when I do my daily reps
>>48047202thats a good thing...right?
>>48047206Cortisol is the stress hormone
>>48047208yeah but like it regulates stress right? so you want that when youre doing intents shit like oinki cards
>>48047213It just makes me more error prone compared to the first 1.5 months or so
>>48047215did you even mine those bad boys?feels like every anki bro grinding is using premades because they dont know how to make their own cards
うわっだふぁ
lil bro cant wait 15 mins
what is the purpose of this . are her feet just cold
i guess it serves the same purpose as a hot shower after a long day
>>48047391i guess?
>>48047391血行
look out of everyone weve got a medical genius in the house
Got this at fushimi inari , can anyone translate it?
高飛車cool word
>>48047447says youre a retard that cant be trusted around women and that youre going to jail for taking a picture of this
また電マくんが荒らしてる
>>48046108so your telling me I should practice with third graders
>>48047550hes telling you you have a learning disability
anyone play any good games in japanese lately?
>>48047541俺？
>>48047541you mean me?
just finished the ankidrone jlpt tango n5, and want to start sentence mining a bit, but i am uncertain as to whether just use the default export option sentence that comes from rikaitan or to edit the card with the sentence i found the word in, since not all words have sentences attached to them i think i'll end up doing the latter either way but is it okay for me to add a multi-target sentence or do i just edit the original one with basic vocabulary i already know?
yh not reading all that slop but im glad for you
>48047681should i use multi target sentences or not?
dno what that means but sure ig
learning japanese is fun
basically more than 2 words i don't understand
yh go for it lil bro
kthx
nooooo morgana i dont want to go to bed leave me the fuck alone
>>48047915fixed in royal
>>48048350can't read whatever's after jou, name, the verb after kare, wtf haijin neet is
cant read
read
>>48048365常磐(ときわ) it's a place name or a last name
can't read well. moreso can't listen well
What are the best 3DS games for learning Japanese?
>>48047562ill get romancing saga next week the demo was good
>>48048825IslandDays
>>48048896the fuck is that? a school days spinoff?
>>48048904yup, it's fully voiced except for makoto
lost all my money buying jamals nft
>>48048825>What are the best 3DS games for learning Japanese?aite!! join me in ocarina of time...except play the 3ds version!! it has furigana!!!
>>48048930>furiganacool :O
yoooo
wotd 竹蜻蛉
>>>/v/692493019
>>48049321ayy its /v/ poster anonive missed you
>>48049406>ive missed younante?
I kinda wanna start watching anime without subs just to truly see how strong or awful my listening skills are just as a test But I also know I got thousands of more words to mine with subs so
>>48049456how much of this do you understandhttps://streamable.com/fk04h0
Do they still add books to the itazuraneko library? Can I go in the discord and make requests or add them myself?
>>48049456You have nothing to lose by watching an episode or two of easy anime daily. I personally never watch with subs anymore even if I only understand 50% of what's going on, it's still surprisingly enjoyable and simple to follow, and very motivational.
>>48047391Heat/ice for soreness/?
How do you guys stay motivated to do things? Not learning the language I mean like even watching anime? Does anyone else form these weird mental blocks on just not being in the mood to do anything or like unable to feel a drive or passion or pressure to make an action?Like a complete lack of execution ability in the brainUsually focusing on something for like five minutes breaks me from this spell but not always
>>48049529>Does anyone else form these weird mental blocks on just not being in the mood to do anything or like unable to feel a drive or passion or pressure to make an action?Yeah I got rid of that by quitting my job
>>48049532Funnily enough becoming a NEET made it worse almost like I have infinite time so nothing mattersBasically just gotta stop being a psychotic bitch and start NEETMaxing while I have the chance
>>48049551It was the exact opposite for me. I always felt like I didn't have enough time to start anything worthwhile and get really into it.
何組 aquired
>>48049517wow i shouldn't have dropped this anime
>>48049529Do you exercise much? That tends to break me out of that cycle. Listening to music sometimes helps too.
>>480461191. It starts to feel that way a bit, but how I get more joy out of saying "oh shit, I understood that!" than thinking "oh this sounds mysterious"2. I use reading more but speaking and listening is much harder (maybe because I don't use the latter as much)3. I got into it for games and manga. I still do some of that but now I'm more interested in books and literature, also some TV dramas and documentaries. It's also interesting to read the thoughts and opinions of a radically different culture. The hardest part is that normally you do reading and such for leisure but when you're learning it's basically work, so now I do really different hobbies to relax so that I can save energy for Japanese work. As you progress some things get simpler though and it becomes less work, just takes consistent daily practice.
>>48049594Not much maybe I should start Strangely moods like this kinda come in waves I’ll be fine for weeks on end soon
acq8u9irde 人の噂も七十五日
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRwHpyOq4P4how long have you been learning japanese and how much of this do you understand?
>>48049489whitenoiser lol
>>48049716I've already mastered those lyricshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9HVuqdvMRA
>>48049578this is proof nangumi guy never read yotubato to learncouldve avoided an embarrassing blunder
flood guy says that you need to see something 5 times to acquire it, so seeing it once wouldnt help
>>48049734>warui = won't???
>>48049758more like>bad at giving up
>>48049758105
warui ? warui ? el em ay oh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt7_FIB8rIAhow much of this do you guys understand?
>>48049754youd think for someone as well read as fakeshit he wouldve seen something simple like nankumi at least a few dozen times lol
>>48049774cant understand anything a vocaloid says
>>48049786vocaloids dont speak they make crappy computer noises that people misinterpret as intelligible speech
as much as i love vocaloid gotta agree with unko
>>48049406It's my first post here in almost 9 months
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZE7pux9s_ssome are way easier to understand, i think its maybe a real person singing and they vocaloidify the voice after
ironically that song would sound a hundred times better with an actual singer
>>48049819youre the real mvp of the threadive been secretly wanting us to have a permanent general on /v/ but you alone possess the strength to do it
wish arifureta anon was still here
>>48049849its time to move on anon
>>48049841that would be cool yeah until people ruin it again
>>48049885thatll take awhile and most of djts non elite human capital is more interested in talking about the latest sloppa than playing vidya so its a pretty good gatekeeping tactic
playing the latest sloppa
https://x.com/wasavisawa/status/1848359776834691583
1
>>48049913it takes more effort to do that than chug so i'm good with it
what are they doing with those n5 kanas
>>48046301then why am I better at listening than reading...
>>48049924二番たぶん
>>48049924
>>48049951because you listen more?
>>48049924.
>>48049985kek not sure how 951 can come back after this 1
bro thinks he can post on v with a tripcode and get a single reply
japanese is an easy language to listen to, if you know whatever is being said means it's easy to catch it since it's not a germanic 3+ vowels in a row mess
>fail every single wasabiits it over or no
>>48050093>vowelsmeant consonants
>>48050107it can only go up from here anon, do your best
>>48050092aint about thatits about showing all those lil dekinais that im the real honmono
>>48046119It's just a language. You reek of monolingual.
yoooooo >>48050140looks like people will have to reply to me now lolol
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1847208858311397376/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/_1O4MyAIAEOByw6E.mp4?tag=12
>literally half the posts is bunko talking to himself
>>48050484i dont samefag so no
>>48050484>>48050493samefag and not me
>>48050484>米'がろ過されていない状態を想像できない
>>48050524wheres your trip then mr smarty pants?
>>48050529>>48050527>>48050524>>48050493>>48050484all me btw
all poop
Here's today's Hello Kitty challenge.See how far you can get without needing to turn on subtitleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR5Wfhip3tE
gonna nutte agemasu your mama ato de if you know what i'm saiyan
>>48050134>don’t discuss the language and ask questions in the daily Japanese learning threadWhat are faggots like you doing here anyways?
>>48050623What do I get for going all the way?
Never forget
>>48050707Remember, you learn Japanese and then you die.
This is your listening practice for tonighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU6gvgbcDOs
>>48050693すごい！you get a jouzu point.i would really like it if there was a hello kitty with japanese subtitles out there on the internet, but i don't know how to search for it on youtube
to understand anything remotely interesting when listening you need to know vocabulary beyond the most common like 6k words. fuck this stupid ass fucking language. it takes way too much work to learn this shit.
>>48050730ngmi
>>48050730filtered by hello kitty, japanese children's show
>>48050754filtered by english, a piss easy language
>>48050707imabi mogs her guides
>>48050767who?
>>48050730japanese doesn't work like English. instead of jumbling words together, they create entirely new ones (e.g. 上段, 下段). plus they have a ton of duplicates thanks to native japanese and sino-japanese words (減る, 減少; 強い, 強力; 育てる, 育成, etc.)
>>48050767imabi has too much filler
post an expression that you like犬猿の仲
>>48050780says u
the middle of a dog monkey?
ah yes, everyone's childhood romance.nowadays shipping this relationship is taboo.which かっこする is being used here?
so is there a reason to why 死ぬ is basically the only ぬ-verb that exists? There's also 去ぬ but that doesn't really get used much.
>>48050833格好
>>48050833what do you think
>>48050833i feel like some of these questions you're asking can be easily grabbed from gpt. anyway it's 格好
>>48050855i feel like it's related to カッコイイ, where イイ is replaced with する>>48050858i feel like using AI for japanese learning is a bad idea.
cant explain why but there is something extra ngmi about using ai
>>48050849ありがとうございます！
>>48050865>i feel like it's related toit is, 格好いい comes from 格好のいいX、格好がいい - it's sort of its own adjective by now
>>48050833>かっこする is being used here?変わった格好をしているyou have weird clothes/you look weirdELFU PIGGU GO HOME
>>48050866it's called being a luddite
>>48049733I do plenty of reading though.
>>48050842the ぬ auxiliary is the archaic perfective form sinu just happened to stick as the word for having died
>>48050881not funny or accurate >>48050888lets hear how good you are
>>48050866boomer bunko moment oof
7 months in where should I be at
>>48050898not meive always said ai has its uses
>>48050901having fun but being lost
suddenly: pile of self owns
>>48050901somewhere other than this board
>>48050905congrats you're not an idiot like unko
>>48050897not sure if nangumi guy should really be throwing hands anymore lol
hover and mine everything and ask ai everytime you dont understand something also never output
wotd格好>>48047105七十くらいの年格好の女
>>48050914i am unko but thanks
>>48050915until proven otherwise im better than you picking up on mistakes is easier than picking up on skill
nah too late bro, no backpedaling
>>48050921nah i'm better and you've already disqualified yourself multiple times but nice try
>>48050928anyone could say that
>>48050933cool i'm saying that
sighreally wish fake me wasnt so aggro all the time
>>48050936yeah and you could easily be some dude who doesnt even care about japanese but is just here because its a semi active general
>>48050940not me but agreed
unke is the mr. meeseeks of djt
>>48050946is that what you do?
wish we could go back to discussing japanese or talking about vidya
Well Zelda i made it, despite your directions
always quit oot after the goron dungeon
>>48050970seriously gmi poster right heremakes me laugh when i think about all the losers who waste their lives posting in here when based nora is actually making gains and having fun
>>48050970good job nora, your actual japanese progress is the only good thing about djt nowadays
>>48050970i think you've proven more japanese ability than nangumi flood and jamal combined
>>48050987lmfao true true
i have over a year of experience working in japan
i told my wife that i misread nankumi as nangumi and she cracked upi later revealed that that was just someone i knew and she asked if he just started
>>48051010lmao
>>48051010how dare you bail yourself out like that
>>48051019yh i dont think she really bought that it was me because she knows my ability and said one time that when i speak i sound like a native who went to college
>>48051027gettin reel tired of the lac of humility in this bitch
>>48051033more like the lack of bitch
>>48051040we got you nigga wut you talkin about
dame
>>48051033im very humble but when youre good at something its hard to hide it to the ones you love>>48051045lmfaooo
I decided I will play all of these games chronologically and see how much my Japanese improves by the end. How long do you think this will take me?
>>48051067nora will have learned the language 3x by the time you finish the 5th game
>>48051067you'll prolly be too busy jackin it to make any discernible progress imo
>>48050897>accurateand what does かっこう mean pray tell
>>48051073simpin bitch
>>48051092was talking about>ELFU PIGGU GO HOMEvtuber fan tier humor
>>48051092ignore him he doesnt know jap>>48051093see >>48044900
>>48051073We'll see about that.>>48051089I played Sengoku Rance 14 years ago and I remember being able to edge quite long to push forward in this game.In any case I will report on my progress periodically.
nora is a tranny but she at least tries to learn japanese and doesn't act like a smug asshole and for that, she has my respect *tips trilby*
>>48051111>inb4 periodically means weeks between posts
>>48051111>In any case I will report on my progress periodically.yeah.... can't wait...
>>48050908True these threads are only useful for getting insulted or seeking positive reinforcement
未来きた
>>48051140its crabs in a bucket which is a shame because this place used to be a lot nicer
unke at the corner suicide booth
>>48051148New old notes? Does it also took old new notes?
>>48051169thats an interpunct lil brobasically a /
guys how can it 来た if it's 未来 i don't get it
>>48050897>lets hear how good you arei'm not good at all. what does that have to do with how right i am
>>48051140you never know which one you're gonna get. half the time you shit all over me for my questions and the other half you kiss nora's feminine penis for beating fucking gohma
>>48051184what were your questionsi would never shit on anyone who didnt deserve it
>>48051183how would you know youre right
>>48051201how would a good person know how right they are? they can be incorrect about what they think made them good.
>>48051205i mean i cant stop you
fakeshits taking a beating right now by anon lol
>>48051209not with that attitude
>>48046929I thought that was a channel name or something. Seems rare for all eleven digits of a Youtube video ID to be alphabetic. The sudden sultry 太るぞ made me laugh. Thanks for posting.
>>48051213not my responsibility
not my burden
the djt mans burden
>>48050976>>48050979>>48050987本当にありがとうございます！i'm doing my best!sorry for the late reply, had to go to mcdonald's. I miss WcDonald's already.
トピ外はゴミ板で
Hello, Zelda.Is anyone here going to watch the rumored live action version of Zelda?
>>48051346ayyy there she iszeldas pronoun is watasi confirmed
>>48051067probably not as long as floodbro
how reliable is google translate to form sentences?
generally garbage. you'll be found out in seconds
>>48051483pretty unreliable aside from something simplechatgpt would probably produce better results
How many words a day do you have to learn in order to make it? I started doing 20 a day but after 500 words it starts to get a little difficult so I dropped it down to 10 words a day, however now I fear that it’s too little and will make it take forever to get at a reasonable level, and I’ve seen some say that anything less than ~500 words a month is not enough. What the fuck do you guys recommend?
>>4805160815-20k to be pretty comfortable in the language but realistically 25-30 for true gmi status
>>48051618How the fuck am I going to learn 20k words a day, what????
>>48049734外国語の歌詞なんて何言ってるかわからなくていいとおもう
>>48051630well figure if 15k was our arbitrary amount for what wed call a reasonable level and youre learning 20 words a day then it would take you a little over 2 years to hit that
what is lil bro yapping about
10k words heard 500 times each > 25k words heard 100 times eachstop mining and start listening to stuff you already understand
Ok but my question was how many words are you guys learning a day? I’m just curious to where I stand relative to everyone else.
hg soei kakupoptai
Which one is the correct font??
>>48051630>How the fuck am I going to learn 20k words a day, what????STOP BEING A FUCKING BABY AND LEARN GODDAMMIT I AM SICK OF LISTENING TO YOUR BITCHING AND MOANING WAHHHHHHH ITS TOO MANY WORDS WAHHHH MY BRAIN CANT MEMORIZE THAT MUCH SHIT WAHHHHH THEN FUCKING QUIT JAPANESE AND GET OFF MY GODDAMN THREAD FUCK YOU BUH BYE
i apologize for my rant i went a lil brazy there
gonna need 42 to have some empathy for me and that anon. i hate "learning" new words (looking them up for the 50th time despite knowing i've seen them) and would prefer that there were only like 2k words in japanese.
daily toki pona thread
49 i apologize once again i too wish there were only 2k i will go take a bath and try to cool my head a lil
>>48051797I aim for 15-20 new cards per day, plus however many cards I push out to over a year through repetition. Like a snowball rolling down a hill, it builds up momentum and doesn't let up. I've been at it for two years, so I've got something like 15,000 words in circulation on my Anki decks, plus my grammar cards. Some of them are super useful, and some are so niche that I saw or heard them once a year ago and have never seen them again since.
>>48051835これがふつう
>Use Anki for University>1 month into the semester, and I already have 1000+ cards for my first year chemistry classWhy is chemistry such ass? my Anki takes more than an hour per day now. I thought Anki was supposed to be efficient.
>>48051943reduce the number of cards and trust that you'll remember what you need to
>>48051952im probably just gonna drop out soon. neet life was so much better
wife just bought me some kome from the store oh yeah tonights good night
truunko more like real shit
しごおわのジュース
kinda wish i lived in tokyo so i wasnt the only speaking hyoujungo sometimes
>>48052133>>48052161is a salaryman life as hellish as youtube makes it out to be?
>>48052183ive only ever worked in factories and now a kitchen
>>48052190sushi chef in Japan sounds like a dream...
>>48052213todays main was 魚の唐揚げ
been thinking about moving out from hokkaido but dunno if its feasible given that all my stuff is here
>>48052026thats right cause i only post the real shit
moe solos tho
>>48052213たまごやきならつくれるのじゃおにいちゃんもたべる？
how come 志を得る means to be employed in your dream job?
>>4805179780 and when doing grammar related stuff 10.I'm at a point where i can read almost all 準1級 kanji and 1/3 of 1級. Its actually not that bad if you use FSRS and regularly reschedule, i have like 350 reviews a day.
you cant learn 80 words in a day
>>48052414>大辞林 第三版: 目指していたことを果たすaccomplish what you set out to do
>>48052476Not everyone is at the nangumi level, I have a retention of 85%.
>>48052414uh how can achieving ones hopes and dreams means to be employed in your dream job? gee>>48052543based
was practicing some nihongo phrases with my wife today and she thought i had to have been reading some fancy meiji era books because of how complex my phrasing was
１０月２７日に形だけの選挙だね被選挙権が独占状態で普通選挙とはへそで茶が沸くなあとおもうよ
>>48052543post some words you did recently
nangumi guy admiring someone better at the language than him
なんじゃこれ？DJTのようなことか？
三下 is a cool and relevant word
reminds me of 三下り半
>>48052563To be honest the one I'm posting now is a bit of a flex, words are normally of a lower level, but I add1級 words in bursts.
三組 is a good wor-oh god... it's happening againsssss-sangumi? sangumi??
>>48052583weird theres some normal words there that normal japanese people can read and then the rest is things they cant and dont care about
bro acting like he knows what japanese people can and cant read
>>48052590weird 何組 is also a normal word that japanese people can read yet you seemed to struggle when presented with itguess it pays to add those too
>>48052583余裕綽々初陣説法美貌are the only ones i can readimagine the average jap is gonna list the same ones only
>>48052594you can try asking
>>48052597no you just suck at reading lol
>>48052583i recognize tougatatsu, terau, sokkou, uijin, yoyuushakushaku, boro, bareisho, bibou and seppou
>>48052602oh yea missed 即興 (is kyou btw
>>48052590Yeah I have an obsession with collecting kanji as seen in 𩸽 for example. However, these are actually a bit harder to remember. When you already know the kanji 90% of words are way easier to learn which makes learning 80 words a day possible. I'm not claiming a beginner should do 80, but advanced learners absolutely can and maybe even should.
>>48052612idk mang whats the rushidc about rare kanji tho so i understand we different
>>48052607damn nice catch i think i hate 興
80 words a day in anki is pretty easy for someone dedicated but i can imagine people who dont read often like nangumi guy would find it hard to believe
>>48052619its an easy word to remember if you watch owarai
btw how much anki is 80 cards a daymust be close to an hour even if you are really fast
>>4805261280 is totally doable if you don't spend the entire day on djt shaking down peeps for vocaroos
>>48052625depends how many cards you have in your decknot the smartest post on here>>48052627kek true
>>48052615To me the experience of learning a new word (and esp. a new kanji) gives me a kick so it just becomes fun to learn. It also has the added bonus that you can read things you want in a somewhat doable time. Ive always wanted to read the 信天翁航海録 VN, but if i did 20 words a day i would never get there.My point is, you learn your own boundaries when you get better and you should not be afraid to increase your load, because shit does indeed get easier.
sokkou?sokkou?
>>48052625For me its 35-45 minutes depending on the new words strongly. I also do new words at the end of the day and reviews at breakfast. The biggest struggle is actually finding 80 words and making somewhat bearable cards.
i still don't get 食えない or 食わせ物
>>48052631exactly its actually fun to learn more and more words through anki to play through a particularly tough game or vn and make real progressi think most anons including the one youre replyjng to tend to not like reading so the idea ends up sounding alien
>>48052635thats not too bad i guessi mean if you enjoy it thats cool i just could never
>>48052641and it shows
>>48052641its the biggest reason why he could probably read through all of p2 with very few mistakes whereas you struggled within the first minute
>>48052644zamn
>>48052644feel free to stream and prove you are better than mei learned 美貌 like 5 years ago or something btw no offense
why are you clowns trying to diss the de facto current king of djt?
>>48052645i mean to his credit he did disclaim the fact that he didn't really read anymore
>>48052648uh oh lil unk getting uppity
>>48052652yeah but it feels like kind of a copout when the point of the stream was to prove he was better than 99% of djt
>>48052656nah im chilling and my response was chill feel free to step up or we can just keep this going for years to come
>>48052649come on unko, a little supercilious don't you think?
>>48052641You can maybe try to do more that was what i discovered. I was too scared to do more than my 25 everyday and then I went like "If I do 25 every day for a year thats 9000 cards, not even 10k :(". So I did 50 and what happened? Nothing, the load did not increase that much (if you use FSRS well that is).To everyone (that is not a beginner) Just try it for a week, double your new cards. Is it too much then just stop, but maybe you can do it only time can tell.
行くか's pronounciation can only be described using romaji ik'ka
>>48052660definitely not chill when you start bragging about fkin bibou of all thingsi do enjoy how mad you get though
>>48052665ee koo ka??
>>48052663but i dont even do anki apart from writing
>>48052663i dont think hes capabke of something like that lol
>>48052671again it showsactually it doesn't cuz your handwriting is fucking ass
>>48052676lmfao
>>48052676were you calling me uppity a few posts back or was that another guy
yup finding new words and more so with new kanji feels like finding a takarabako
>>48052682another guy, you are a bit uppity tho
fakeshit needs to take a chill pill and do some anki cards
got tomorrow off so ill be gaming and immersing https://youtu.be/0-R0jxIxvh8
he already does, he just doesn't include the pronunciation or the meaning
>>48052690buy a kanji dictionary then poorfag
been thinking about watching some japanese movie dubs as a form of immersionshould i start by watching terminator or predator? kinda leaning towards the former cuz of nostalgia>>48052709thats so sad lol
>>48052690A small gift from me for you :) 蹣跚
I've been thinking of increasing my new cards per day limit on anki to about 30, I'll be learning more but it'll also take more time which I don't really mind because I like learning the language. The thing I'm worried about is if the increased amount of cards will decrease my retention, what do you guys think?
>>48052716terminator二judgmentの日
>>48052734i wouldnt worry about your overall retention since the goal is to familiarize yourself with a larger vocabularyid say do it
>>48052739lol okay ill try to get my hands on that
>>48052734I am the anon that was just arguing for 80 cards, so I might be a bit biased. What is your new cards at right now? Do you use FSRS? If you don't it will most likely impact your a retention little bit yes. Otherwise it will just slightly increase the load. The biggest indicator for how much new cards impact you is how much you already know. Say for example you are at 4級 level in kanji and you were to suddenly at card that only contain ３級 then it will impact it a little bit. HOWEVER, once you get over that little barrier it becomes easier again and probably wont be as bad as you first believed it to be.In conclusion, just try and if it doesnt work out just stop.
>>48052747this anon is both based and knowledgable
>>48052747My new cards are at the default which is 20, I finish it in about 15-20 minutes, so it's why I've been thinking of increasing the workload and yes I use FSRS. Thanks for the advice, I'll increase it for a while and see how it goes.
>>48052690鎹豆腐に鎹
reminder to everyone to set their fsrs retention low as to keep cards manage
sucks that japanese doesn't have this feature anymore since i made it
you made japanese?
i havent immersed this week so i probably wont sound as good*10 minutes later*uhhh… nangumi??? nangumi???
>>48052774切磋琢磨! Once you get used to it you dont even notice you did 10 more than normal, but dont forget to reschedule cards to flatten with the FSRS addon or you will get hills in your reviews.>>48052789One i learned from natsume s7 画鋲.
釦 is a cool kanji
>>48052801got that
>>48052817Every kanji is beautiful except shinjitai. >>48052844New challenge!
suddenly: helicopter is landing closeby
>>48052856ain't nobody got time for that
>>48052856only knew 鍾乳洞are you mining dictionaries
oh 舗装
>>48052898I would 銑鉄 is just as important. >>48052905Yes in particular the kanken dictionary, as I said earlier only when I feel like it, this mining spree happened when I realized I knew only 10% of the 金-radical kanji (there are like 60 cards I mined). Learning these words is not exactly efficient for your time, but they make me happy so I do them 暴虎馮河.
>>48052856>>48052929ok one more
>>48052929are you going for kanken 1i appreciate the autism
damn now that i think about it i had a card for 銑鉄 way back
>>48052949Not exactly, I'd like to get it one day but Im not particularly focusing on it right now, but doing only ""easy"" cards to me becomes too boring after a while so I spice it up. It also allows me to flex my autistic memory skills to my chinese friends. My 四字熟語 is also way too bad to even make an attempt on it.
mental illness
ほすぃい
I want to learn to read moon because i'm sick of not being able to, also there's this one RPG series i wish to play, what's the minimum knowledge required for playing untranslated RPG games, as well as reading basic japanese
>>48053641depends on the game
>>48053646Ah damnThen what's the basic metric for reading daily life and reading normal stuff, or should i say basic interaction? I don't know what's the basis for Nip literacy
>>48053641>basic japanesethrow that mindset straight into the bin, open up a dictionary and read HanaHira!learning japanese is a marathon, not a sprintrpgs are especially hard because many of them don't use furigana, making lookups impossible
>>48052856i know half of these, but not because i know japanese
dogen should really stick to making comedy videos
>>48052583What are you reading?
>>48052856>except shinjitaiI have been using 馬酔木 as a 旧字体 font but it has some drawbacks. Now using this one https://github.com/epistularum/kanji-restoration. What font are you using?
i like the old and the new kanjissimplified chinese went too far tho
>>48054141They're not new, most of these kanjis have been recorded as erroneous forms for hundreds of years.
>>48054161new testament is pretty old
>>48054113These are not from my reading. I was watching a video about kanji that were not in the 漢検 (and spoke with a kanken learner) and then decided to look for some very common 1級 kanji that i had not collected yet. Looking for rare kanji in natural text is unfortunately almost impossible after a certain point, something a bit more common like 羯鼓 only appears like once in an entire collection of books. I find them personally by searching in kanji frequency dictionaries, kanji dictionaries (looking for radicals/components) and kanken tests.>>48054135I personally use the kanken font, because using Epistularum's font requires me to check for inofficial 書き換え字 such as 弁論 so if you don't look out youre just reading anachronistic bullshit. I also should look into how he justified his choice, because he makes some non-standard choices. He has done a very beautiful job though and I respect his work, i just haven't spend the time to justify it for myself. I do use the (historical-kana) 正字-google-IME file though which I strongly recommend for fellow kanji-autists .
>>48054296>rare kanji in natural text is unfortunately almost impossible after a certain pointfinally someone who knows my plightim stuck at 4200 kanji since 2022
>>48054396You can use the anki kanji grid addon to search for the kanken ones you miss and look for words that contain them in a dictionary if you really wanted to.
anki means sleeping late into the morning so yes everyone used anki
>>48053641>spoilerunironically wait for brain implanted ai translator
>>48053641just read nigga. playing a vidya series was also my reason to learn japanese and i just started reading after going through core2k6
i was reviewing the zelda scene to see if i missed anything, and...is that Mario in the window???this ruins my immersion
>>48053641i think the "basic" japanese knowledge as you mean it, is simply learning katakana so you can read shit hidden shit like the title of the game and spell names. beyond that you need at least 2k hours of learning before playing a jrpg without getting burned out on lookups or install texthook/ocr, feed everything to chatgpt and stfu. katakana is still worth learning regardless tho
>>48054672c-cute but absolutely shit ratings. it worth watching?
>>48054679if you cant enjoy anime without normalfag affirmation then probably not
>>48053743>>48053754>>48053785whats ur porblem
>>48054707hes saying the exact same thing you used to say my n
yah but its the same post 3 times whats his issue
>>48054296idiomatic speech > focusing purely on kanji足で書く足が有る足が棒になる足が地に着く足が出る足が早い足が乱れる足が向く足が遠くなる足が付く足に任せる足の踏み場もない足を洗う足を出す足を踏み入れる足を運ぶ足を引っ張る足を入れる足を向ける足を伸ばす足を抜く足を盗む足を掬う足を止める足を取られる（奪われる）あげ足を取る二の足を踏む首縊りの足を引く
is this new grammar?べで. let me guess, it's also in tae kim?
>>48054672長女先生かわよ(*´ω｀*)
>>48054686there's quite a few kinos rated 5/10. haven't seen any where the ratings was 2/10 though.
>>48054736
>>48054735its 壁で
>>48054735カベ＝かべ＝壁石の壁
>>48054735typo 壁で
katakana: it's a typo
>>48054740>0人が「いいね」owari da! :O
>>48054735dang u really hit a wall with this one *chortles*
>>48054735dang i really wanna feel zeldas 襞 at that point in time
>>48054740wtf that's sexy
>>48054744>>48054745>>48054749>>48054768i thought that ka was 力, the stone's power.
>>48054779カ力刀 japanese is the most retarded langauge on earth turn back now it only get sworse
>ka>chikara>katanaweird self own
they r all katanakana tho
>>48054792all i see is KA KA KA
didn't even include little ヵyour 面目が丸潰れになった just now
>>48054785it's easy to spot 刀. this one doesn't make sense for -kaba (wall)."But, that entrance is known as the door of time, it's a stone wall that's closed"walls aren't able to be closed.
what if its a wall thats actually a door tho
>>48054805
i can only show u the カベ u have to walk through it -morpheus
see why i keep telling you to be christian
でも、その入口は「時の扉」と呼ばれる石の壁で閉ざされています。it's any entry that's locked by a stone wall called the 'door of time'?
運命石の扉<steins gate>
dang daily japanese thread on jp has declined well ill leave u to it then
>>48054835not enough vocaroos for ya?
Why you learn Japanese?
>>48054835c'mon jamal please don't leave us
>>48054835i've been browsing other generals on 4chan and noticed there's always a couple of people debating politics and it made me laugh. it's human nature
>>48054812mind blown.ugh, anki is struggling today.time for my tobira reps
door reps?
>>48054960joke's on you i'm the persona 3 protagonist
>>48054957nice door
How do you guys process audioDo you listen to it in order, making note of key words and verb endings and form a sort of nebulous subconscious understanding in your head? Do you wait to hear each particle and sort of chunk each phrase together?
>>48055047i dont think ur supposed to think that hard
>>48055047ask yourself how you process speech in englishbelieve it or not it's exactly the same thing
>>48055105I just kinda do it naturally I guess when I’m in the zone it happens with Japanese but often times I’m trying to literally think about it I guess
acqyuired hey
>focus is so bad it took my until 2 pm to do my anki reps and haven’t immersed yetPain. Death. Suffering.
>>48052663If you do do twice as many cards a day the load doubles. If you do fsrs really really well the load still doubles, because each card is still independent of all other cards and hence the load is linear in the new cards added.
>>48054835see in 2 hours
link sure has a lot of girlfriends
>>48055157No, because if you learn more your learning becomes less volatile and semi-new words like 一様 stick way faster the more you know. This in turn means that your initial and intermediate intervals start to widen and thus decreasing your load. Your view is too simplistic and only looks at infinite time scale.
>>48052583>蕞爾not in jisho's dictionary. uh oh stinky>>48054732this. most people ignore the massive vocabulary you need to pass the kanken. nothing worse than being able to read and not knowing what the fuck what you just read means
>>48054957had another video playing in the background and a door was being open and closed in that one, so that the sound perfectly conicided with the webm. weird
fuck you
>>48055355they know
>>48055424how would they know?
>>48055492勘で
It is funny how people say just immerse bro and just trust the process bro and then yeah that’s literally all you doWhat’s the point of these threads there should be less then 5 questions ever asked on how to learn a language We should do something productive like post Yukari’s tits instead
stfu
>>48055520
>>48055520people say a lot of things without actually proving that they themselves know jack shit
tru unko queef
>>48055520blindly emmersing is bad.you're supposed to take note of interesting structures. e.g. 試しに, かりに. or interesting vocabulary like 勇気を振り絞る, 首を洗って待つ, and 斬首
みんな試しに黙ってみたらどう？
i wish i was a /djt/ eceleb
>>48055578it's not all fun and games. there are some evil sick fuck anklebiters that always try to tear you down
>>48055559I dont even know what blindly immersing isJust ignoring things you don’t understand? Immersion isn’t a goal it’s a side effect from doing things you enjoy. If you’re watching and understanding half a show or only reading half a book then you’re not doing that activity
>>48055559Noting novel things is also good but I'd argue it's even more important to just continually reinforce the absolute basics. Get real comfortable. These are just words, and they can be yours. They should be yours.
gayest thing i heard all
>>48055424here's what zelda said
>>48055584>I dont even know what blindly immersing isjust consuming without taking notes. not grouping vocabulary for easy reference later (e.g. school supplies, clothes, chores, whatever)unfocused study is much slower than focusing on specific stuff
focus on these nuts
>>48055636Easy reference? It’s in my brain after a few Anki reps broSeems a bit annoying and a waste of time to have some notepad file tracking vocab into groups or whatever
>>48055619shouldn't this be 我の使命 and not 我が使命 for 'our mission'? first time i've seen が working like a の
it's waga as adjective
>>48055686so that's a trick to give a possessive quality to someone without needing の? nifty
>>48055665agree. with premade stuff like pic related you might reap the benefits but otherwise that's a huge waste of time>>48055680didn't we talk about this just the other day?我が国君が代我が社梅が香竜が如くthis is one of the of functions が can perform. it's basically の.
yes, it's LITERALLY called an "adjective"
what is called an adjective?
>>48055695you can't just switch it out whenever you like
>>48055700i see.. interesting. i like the 君が代 one. do you have a link to the tae kim entry for this grammar?
it's not a grammar, it's a set expressionwaga is an adjective
>waga is an adjective
>"ACSHUALLY..."
>>48055713sorry but i have never read tae kim
>>48055731huh, didn't know 連体詞 were considered a type of 形容詞 but it makes sense from a functionality pov i guess
ok so the rule seems to be, if a noun is being modified by a word that otherwise might be an adjective in the predicate of a sentence, if that word takes a non-declinable form in order to be able to modify the noun, it becomes a 連体詞大きい is an adjective大きな is a 連体詞
>ok so the rule seems to bestopped reading this is not the d&d thread
>>48055700it's not about having premade stuff. it's about grouping things. like animal names, words relating to viewing/watching (眺める, 見る, 窺う, 睨む, 睨みつける, 見詰める, じっと見る, 覗く, 覗き込む, のぞき見, 盗み見, 盗視, ご覧(になる), 拝見, ちらっと見る, 観賞, 目撃する, 目をかける, 目にする, 凝視, 見渡す, 遠見, 見澄ます, 見入る, 目を凝らす, etc.)you know, the shit you do in language class. you could even make an anki deck or something
>>48055815completely forgot to add the pic back there >>48055700
>>48055747>形容詞are you sure adjective means 形容詞? remember adjective is also used to refer to 形容動詞(so-called na-adjectives)I haven't studied grammar in jap so I don't know how stuff really works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svVRQ-8sRek&list=PLynCeSdpMqxBPMf_qvQCQC8g8dCxx_FJi&index=12
>>48055803just feel it out
>>48055819japanese words sometimes just switch classes a 形容動詞 (na-adjective) has conjugation still when in the predicate of a sentence.いろいろな事情 ＞ しかし老人ホームもいろいろだよ。 (conjugation still occurs)いろんな事をいう (can only go in front of a noun, not the predicate, has no conjugation = 連体詞)again this is kind of news to me and i literally just got this from the very first article i found but it seems to hold true with dictionary entries. however i think not all 連体詞 are formed from adjectives. it's also not THAT important
>>48055859
unko wife face reveal at last
kek
she's beautifullucky guy
stop making fun of ugly people
>>48055814>grammar doesn’t existWow you’re so cool
he's right tho
if grammar just describes the pattern or structure of a language - even if elements of that structure were unintentional - then grammar exists as much as much as math exists. when someone says "rule" you can think "pattern" if that makes you more comfortable.
you can think "pattern of atoms" if that makes my foot in your ass more comfortable
>>48055897thats not funny
>>48055897she looks a lot like the 槍投げ woman just older and fatter
how can i post on here with a vpn so I don't have to turn it off constantly
>>48054296>Epistularum's font requires me to check for inofficial 書き換え字 such as 弁論弁 replaces multiple kanjis in shinji. A font can only do a 1 to 1 replacement so you'd have to combine the font with some sort of ime addon. I wish episu provided one.
>>48055285
>>48056106you mean with a japanese one?
>>48056124>supports TangoDict, MDict, and MDXis there a way to make it work with EPWINGs? I've been relying on ebpocket pro but this one has a much cleaner UI
>>48056106get a 4chan pass
imagine paying for 4chan lool
oh we're all paying in our own little way
if i weren't a neet i'd pay for 4chan
it's the thought that counts
took a break from zelda to progress in cure dollyi'm at lesson 19, she just went full Taoist with this explanation regarding the causative passive verb
>>48056339id just have my wife pay for it if i cared enough>>48056368how far are you through zelda?
>>48056368um djt recommends firefox and the beta/nightly version with vertical tabs and tab grouping
>>48056386this message is tatumoto coded
>>48056397he stole that shit from djters who posted that way before him. just like he's stealing from the people who made yomichan
>>48056402true truei remember when he stole the kek are you nuts pasta from anacreon
>>48056376>how far are you through zelda?i'm at death mountain with child link. i wish this game counted your playtime. maybe the 3ds version does???
>>48056430thats the filter point for a lot of peopleit wasnt until i was older that i got past that pointalso yeah the 3ds version is more polished but it fundamentally is the same game
>>48056455welp, i'm lost. no idea what to do to progress in death mountain.i'm trying not to look up guides so i rely on my japanese ability to find the hints to progress. i have no idea how i solved this as a kid.
>not recommended for microwave ovensgreasy slopだったら仕様がない
>>48056630should be pretty obviouswhat was the last significant thing you did?
>>48056814figured it out, had to talk to the goron outside his room first
>>48056861nice gj
dungeon 4 in persona 5 lets gogonna go get my hair cut by an old japanese guy now
no one cares lil bro
>>48056912>lil broWhy do I feel like you’re in your 20s?
because i am?
so i'm older than the fake even though he's so much wiser?
>>48056934I don't sense intelligence in his behavior
>>48056934how old is fake unko?
"Made in a dodongo's stomache"i'm getting lots of practice with the passive form in this game so far. progress is progress!!
>>48056919Then why are you calling people lil bro when you’re still a youngin
>>48056999would you believe theyre not actually my lil bro either
i think a real old man would say lil whippersnapper
>>48057009>>48057009>>48057009
>>48056969で here means "with" or "out of," not "in."
>>48056969from not in
oot is pure soul but the gameplay bores me to deathsame with lttp
genuine low iq take
