前: >>48471878Djt is a thread for the discussion of and questions about the japanese languageThere are no official guidesResources can be found on google.com
shit op
>>48484092bongtas doing his best
>>48480973https://www.nicovideo.jp/video_topScroll down to the bottom and see if you're on Jap or not. If you are, then I can only assume there's some problem with your browser/adblock
Learning Japanese is fun immersing each day isn’twell actually it is I just have no focus and doing dumb shit like jerking off is easier
>>48484354never used duolingo, how long does one session usually take?
>>48484387jerking off is prime immersion time
>>48484354tough world out therei still only know half the katakana but one day ill get there
>>48484354im still learning the ひらかな myself too, 38 days in so far
>>48484610gj lil bro
>>48484354No way there are real niggas out there learning hiragana for 711 days. Fuck me bro
>>48484707hes either a troll or lying
>>48484086any eroge recommendations with a decent story and some sex scenes here and there that's not too difficult to mine (i.e. not 90% porn)
>>48484761nekopara
>>48484432HowYou only have one hand to use a keyboard and mouse and you’re focused on jerking offAlso how the fuck would I jerk off to Japanese
>>48484879jerk off and immerse to voice works, you don't even need to use keyboard and mousehttps://www.dlsite.com/maniax/works/type/=/work_type/SOU/from/icon.work
>>48484942gross
>>48484942Sorry I jerk off to Japanese farting videos and smut stories / VNs like a normal person I could immerse and jerk off by translating these Japanese site hosted stories for western audiences thoughYou’re a genius anon
>>48484969>I jerk off to Japanese farting videosprove it
>>48484969ngmi
i'm reading sooo slowly fuck!
>>48485225not my problem
Are there any better hover over ocr programs like Kanjitomo?
it shouldn't be impossible for it to be the case that there is a better one, shouldn't it
>>48485598anything that takes advantage of google lens like yomininja
>breaking news>gaydog a ocr通
>>48485642eh not reallyyou tend to pick up a thing or two hanging out in these threadsit cant be sikataganai'd
stfu
you sound mad lol
>>48485632I can't even get that thing to install, it keeps throwing errors.
I can't figure out how to learn Japanese, I know the very basic kanji, but there is grammar everywhere that I just can't get to stick in my head.
just give up
>>48485699let me guessyoure still on windows 98 or something?>>48485715sux 4 u
>>48485011How? I literally am gonna make it
>>48485779>sux 4 uhai kanpai
>>48485812>H>Idunno just a feeling thing
>>48485882hai so desu ga
:skull:
the real :skull: is posting some shit from jisho
majisho? i hardly know her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVAT0jAiWtMdamn why would they just stab a JS at makku like that
>>48485884WhyWhat MakesYouSayThat
>>48486081>Japan raises age of consent>Japanese girls no longer have protective adult boyfriends to fend off incelsWho could have seen that coming.
how does this ており work? I know that conjugation from humble form, but the text isn't in humble form. seems to just work as a conjunction.
By the way literally just immerse more to learn more and if you aren’t really in the mood have the discipline to do some sort of bare minimum per dayThat’s all you have to do, you naturally learn at the rate in which you need to know it - stop stressing about shit, stop posting in these threads and open a book and start reading instead
>>48486803Author doesn't want to use the て form, he wants to use 連用形, but ending a sentence with てい sounds stupid so you say ており instead
Use of 連用形 to link sentence is called 中止法 or 連用中止法
boutta link my foot with your ass
>>48486995how about you link your brain with japanese lmao nvm you can't ur da dekinai
Ways to make reading more enjoyable? Mind you I don’t read English books as is so….
dakanai?
>>48487029dakitai!
>>48487027read together with ur japanese gf
Dekitaikara dekiru!
>>48487055我思う、ゆえに我あり
>>48486909>>48486958>>48486958thanks sisters, really just seems to be continuous form. apparently there are several different versions of this grammar, like you could also just say 行き instead of 行っており
Was this green woman married? Can't recall and didn't play the games.canonically I only recall the ice gym leader and the black woman from black and white being married.
>>48487078示しておる is equivalent to 示している here temporally speaking, 示し is not.
>last thread still alive
how about this https://imabi.org/%E9%80%A3%E7%94%A8%E4%B8%AD%E6%AD%A2%E5%BD%A2/
>>48487158meant for >>48487107
>>48487158all true, nothing new to me. easiest way to think about is when you see it, put and 'and' there. done
>>48487182
>>48487203yea but according to it you can also use 示し instead of 示ており and it serves the same function but is more literary?
whatever, you can just figure it all out from context
nta but cifgp
>>48487218do you understand the difference between 示す and 示している? the latter is the underlying expression what was changed to end the clause and begin a new one. that is all and it is very much akin to connecting two sentences with 'and' in english
>>48487218and yes, two sentences can be connected by 示し but not these twoit doesn't need to be 示しており all the time if that was your question
>>48487218>you can also use 示し instead of 示ており and it serves the same function but is more literarythe 書き言葉ness comes from using the 連用形 at all for the job (be it 示し or 示しており) instead of te-form (示して、示していて)
>>48450099wrong lol
>>48487410no i'm telling YOU that you're wrong. that is a sentence about the nature of 豆知識 - そういう豆知識は… this not a one-off occurence
hmmidk, it's debatable i guess
hope you are learning your radicals
nice kruger discussion
i was just doing a meme
What's the difference between 淹れる and 煎れる? I've seen both used for making tea.
everytime i try to learn japanese i get headaches if i think too much and i have to lay down and take painkillers
>>48487762Pain means that you're learning.
>>48487762i just make my wife give me back rubs
>>48487956you dont have a wife
Are there any japanese game review youtube channels that are as good as Matthewmatosis?
>>48488050noi recommend searching the game name in japanese + atwikithey have good pages about gameshttps://w.atwiki.jp/gcmatome/pages/4113.html
>>48488058thanks anon!
otherwise japanese youtube content about games kinda suckstheres some good hardware repair channels but its hit or miss whether they use those ass tts or notlets plays are generally ok
>>48488006i do shes in the other roomalso you already admitted to not having one bongta lol
>>48488091
>>48488119ring means nothing my dude
is that your wife's hand
>>48488151well surely you also have one right? lets see it
>>48488158yup but im going to need a wife vocaroo discussing djt first
>>48488169isnt that a bit weird
Why does this thread feel like the same 5 autists passive aggressively trying to start fights with each other every day?
そのものずばり
Today's tango羊羹
>>48488406learned that like 5 years ago
>>48488406eotd憎さも憎し
>>48488172lol
I love Japanese women.
>>48488500wotp片思い
dame double rekteat shit bitch
i love japanese men
not hard to be a tranny expert there arent many good ones
uhhhhhh lol
>>48488275That’s the entire board look at the idol threads it’s the same 3 autists spamming the same pictures and phrases every day for years
I feel a bit dumb being able to mine words from DB DaimaThought I’d know it all
>jisho.orgI love this website but the fucking kanji stroke order dialog makes you stop mid stroke to scroll further to see the rest of the stroke order.
>>48488624true true
>>48488275if you think this is bad check out the trash 1
mined だ
crippled
>>48488685damn she looks like me
Alright so, It has taken me like 4 weeks or so to learn hiragana and katakana, at this point I just review every day to commit them to memory and read them faster. I got an app recommended to me to start learning kanji and it seems to be pretty good so far, any recommendations on what I should jump into next? My plan is to get to N2 lvl in about a couple of years. I spend an hour a day min, more often I study for about 2 hours.
>>48488696which one?
>>48488685me on the left
>>48488717do Tae Kim's grammar guide and Ankidrone Foundation in paralell.
me on the right
>>48488723blasphemer
>>48484086>There are no official guideswhat are the politics of djt that lead to all this? itazuraneko neocities used to be in the op all the time back then and at some point people randomly started adding and subtracting guides from the op, and nowadays it's just the occasional tatsumoto peddler
>>48488734mental illness
everyone knows animecards solved learning japanese but unfortunately there are some undesirables who try to silence the truth
Why you learn Japanese?
>>48488734dunno bongta seems to think all guides are antiquated so he doesnt include themeither that or he just hates quiz and tmw
>>48488774sex
>>48488774so people think i am smart and sophisticatedso I can express myself in more than one language. philosphyso I can live in japn and bang asian womaen
>>48488774who says im learning japanese?
I hope whoever decided to take down the real itazuraneko site burns in hell for eternity.
>>48488774Seems like a natural matter of course considering all my hobbies are in Japanese or Japanese adjacent
i did rtk.it taught me to write kanji from keywords, and to break them apart when I see them.but I'm not sure it actually helped me much with recognition. recognition and production are different skills as we know. for a lot of Kanji, it's not like I can just visualise them and then simply write them, i just assemble them element by element while writing. recognition rtk is probably way more useful and you can deal with learning to write once you're fluent.
grinding 50 cards per day of core 6k then throwing away the deck is probably a better use of 3 months than rtk
>>48488842it's not like you're actually spending 3 months on rtk. I did 15 Kanji a day and that was like 30 minutes a day. seems like a waste but humans will find a way to spend 30 minutes doing fucking nothing every day anyway. anyway, I actually did rtk, tae kim and core 6k alongside each other
>i spent 45 hours on rtk>but it wasn't a waste because... it just wasn't ok?!
>>48488854trust me, everyone in here has spent 1000s of hours doing way more wasteful shit. like watching anime before studying japanese, playing an MMO or what have you. or posting in this thread. can you honestly say that it was more of a waste to spend 45h on rtk than it is for unko to spend every single day here?
I spent hours of my life on duolingo for years thinking I was actually learning japanese. it's part of the journey. only 140iq geniuses actually manage to not get caught in pitfalls .
wotd: 圃場
>>48488861anime and mmos are fun though lolnot comparable
>>48488876rtk was fun too.btw that's a wrong definition of something not being a waste. you're coping.
>>48488861i only actually watched like 40 shows before i started learning japanesenow this number only makes up like 15% of all the shows i've seen. (85% being in fully japanese)
>>48488854this lmfao
>>48488882if you did something un-enjoyable because you thought it would pay off in the end, and it doesn't pay off, that is indeed the definition of 無駄
>>48488861i barely spend any time on here tho
>>4848888340 shows is like what 240h assuming 1 cour
>>48488892so like everyone playing mmos, diablo, and live service games
>>48488896>courcringe
>>48488896what does cour mean?
>>48488902don't think I asked someone who literally calls himself shit for his opinion
>>48488911you come on hereyoure always asking for it
>>48488902can you explain whats cringe about it without citing reasons jamal gave you
>>48488900if you play games that you dont enjoy then you have a mental disability
>>48488914oh so you are spending a lot of time here after all
>>48488916literally no one but filthy weebs uses that term>>48488921?
>>4848892099% of cattle err i mean gamers are playing games that are engaging, not fun. games that exploit human psychological biases to cause fomo or make people wanna sit through chores in hopes that the fun will come. "once x legendary drops my build will be complete and then I'll finally be able to play the game for real"
can djt read 験 and do you know the meaning?
>>48488930けん because it reminds me of a swordno idea what it means tho lol
>>48488930I did rtk so no cause that isn't a jouyou kanji
i still read アケビ as "purple kiwi"
>>48488937based
>>48488937>that isn't a jouyou kanjii beg your unbelievable fucking pardon?
the real question is, can djt read 験し without hovering bc THAT reading isn't joyo
>>48488990dame read it as tamesi dunno how i did that lol
>>48488934also you're wrong bc alone it's げん not けん, or しるし, not to be confused with 験しlove japanese
>>48488990read that as mabusi
>>48488998dictionary says otherwise lil ho
>>48488998breh
>>48488990read it as tameshi because of taiken
>>48489021never heard of that anime
>>48489013問題はどこにありますか
>>48489039i respect you for taking the L
can djt non-joyo read 証?
isn't that the kanji used in witness testimony shougen?
there are more kanji read しるし in the japanese language that there are stars in the sky
immersion time dropped to zero hours a week crunching in the final week of a 5 week training thing for new jobBut I’m slowly building it back up each daySoon enough I’ll be back in full form But I need to find something more entertaining than Gun x Sword to watch
that's not true for しるしit's true for けわしい tho
>>48489049yooo thats like the 印 in 目印
>>48489067>that's not true for しるしmay i introduce you to首・首級験・印・標・章・証・徴>>48489072was looking for あかし actually
>>48489079thats just 証し tho
>>48489083okurigana are but mere suggestions to me at this point
>>48488719black hair
>>48489065>5 week training thing for new jobtell me more, i'm looking for a new job
>>48489094they always should beif you read meiji era texts then its pretty common ie 細 as こまか or 教 as おしえ
>>48488500Gross fat bitch
a 疲れマラ in the office is kinda cringe and embarassingbut why is a 疲れマラ at home so fucking comfy to have?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYVyOVAXcvg5 years and 10 words... will zone really teach me japanese?
>>48488734i made that op text i personally strongly disagree with the concept of guides and have a disdain for those who spam guides they are financially affiliated with for the record i think things like tae kim are good but dont need to be in the op
>>48488754anime card format is the closest to a perfect setup one can ask for. if you dont get brainwashed along the way, you will eventually end up with his format.
>>48484086DEBU OP MEIDO PLEASE 56-SU THIS!
>精飲 literally why is there a dedicated word for this
>>48489495It’s Japan. You know why. And I know where you mined it, too.
>>48489565i actually dont think you do. in fact, im willing to gift you a sub $10 dollar steam game if you guess it right.
>>48489580>>48489565shit, i'll even give you 3 guesses
>>48489580in a ntr vinnyhmm let me think about the game you owe me for a sec
>>48489580Edo era samurai painting
>>48489591now you know very well you gotta give a name.
>>48489495just synthetic language things
>>48489495>dedicatedIt's just as dedicated as the word "semen drinking".
>>48489601堕ちる人妻
>>48489628my wife would laugh at this if i showed her
>>48489625well insn't this a noun made to express the concept itself and not a phrase
>>48489631monolingual mindset
>>48489637br hands typed this post
>>48489644nah im white and have posted my hands ittsomething you cant do
>>48489631"Semen drinking" is an open compound word like "summer break". Whether you put a space between the words does not change its function and is not very relevant to the legitimacy of the word itself.
>>48489655im actually retarded because initially read "semen drinking' as 'drinking semen'. disregard the last post; you're right.
秋なのにサンマたべてないサンマたべたい
>>48489645dame bongta i think you spend every waking moment in these threads lol
>>48489677you have posted more times in this thread than i have
>>48489680i bet youve actually posted more anonymously lol
>>48489684You should consider posting anonymously on the anonymous message board, you attention whore
>>48489691says the guy who used my trip to get himself banned
hes right tho
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>>48489850?
If you think rtk is a waste of time, what is the best way to learn to write Japanese then?
>>48489932doing qms kanken deck is working well for me but id recommend learning to read first
thank you jinmaku for all your worki was a bit skeptical at first, buy you are a good guy
>>48489932quizs kanken deck is what i used to learn to writeid recommend it
>>48490001post handwriting lets see it
>>48484086
>>48490013newspaper first bongta
>>48490025why?what do you stand to lose by posting some handwriting
>>48484086What's the best tablet/ereader for lightnovels? I want to get one but need one with a built in dictionary for JP.
>>48490028well give youre someone that i dont particularly like i feel any requests you make should come with a trade so that you cant just indefinitely ask me to do things
>>48490033ios has built in dictionaries which work really well
>>48490037thats cool but ive already proven i live in japan with my pics
>>48490041not without a newspaper you havent
>>48490042so how do you explain those pics
>>48490044i reserve my judgment until you post that newspaperthe fact that you wont says more about where you live than those pics ever will
>>48490049lol what a copout
>>48490051hey at least i dont have multiple thread personas like you lol
my personas are all ウンチhttps://voca.ro/1bnWRklb5RzW
>>48490033Just use yomitan
so are bongtas lol
why is nobody replying to my posts? are you guys really just 5 fags posting all day? i don't really mind, but i'm kinda curiousthe beginner playing hiragana games is cool tho
>>48490096link your postill respond
>>48489693I'm not even whoever you think I am, you insufferable mouth breather h4vw
>>48489932you cold try the way japanese do it, so writing the kanji a number of times and then getting an exercise book where you get context sentences with hiragana words and try writing it in kanjiat least that's how i saw they do it in anime
>>48490070あたしノーハブおちんぽデス(*ﾉｪﾉ)ｷｬｰ
>>48490113>Maybe if I type like this he'll think I'm a different person, hehehe.
>>48490033Did the mc dock all of them?
>>48490104i actually get frequent replies from you, thanksi don't agree with your constant spam however
>>48490130thats not what you said in your first post lol
>>48490132i meant it in relative terms
>>48490139relative to what? everyone but me? lol
>>48490142so i barely get any replies, but when i do, most of them are from you
>>48490147well beggars arent exactly choosers my friend
>>48490126Take your Discord drama out of here, tripfag
>>48490150i was not choosing, just begging. please use the expression correctlymy posts are some of the best in the thread btw
曲https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdnDrHWmiic
>>48490158?>>48490159you clearly were if you had to whine about a lack of replies lol
cool さえ
>>48490033Are there sex scenes in this LN?
>>48490192I'm not the second poster, you knob gobbling twat bandit Cut this shit out
過たず
>>48489492gorokusu?
>>48484432Watching JAV has helped me remember certain words, so yeah, I agree.
I don't know why I'm learning Japanese, I kinda just am.
I know exactly why I am
>>48490609kinda retarded to play nukige level slop without the porn and not only that pay almost 2k yen for it
カットシーン in japanese means a cut scene not a cutscene
emersionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eZ2dysHb9g
直走り（ひたはしり）
>>48484086daily reminder to read the official DJT guideDJT guide v3.0, written from scratch by 出来るやつs: https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/new - rikaitan site: https://rikaitan.github.io/
>>48490844add this to your card
>>48484761KEK are you nuts? Don't you know? Most visual novels should be avoided since they are proprietary!https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-games.html
>>48490240what? lol
>>48490886i dont mine saw it in kana either way
>>48485598https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/mining-from-manga
>>48490933based
i dont get why you have to be so rude to me
and he doesnt understand how such trash as yourself can exist hence why he made that post
>>48491123nta but lets see a vocaroo or some handwriting
>>48491130>>48491139lets see that newspaper first bongta lol
I made christmas cookies.
>>48491153yum oisisou
>>48491153not your pic and not on topic>>48491160kys
cookie making is an otaku activity
>>48491153女子力たけぇー ;3
>>48491234whats ur problem? im just chilling
>>48491160hai kanpai
>>48491283un kotirakoso
>>48491292>kotirakosothat's crazy
>>48491296ya pretty yabasugiru
im nip and seeking help does saying "a seductive entrance" allows me to imply something about a pussy?
>>48491234>not on topicdont you see the japanese cardboard?
>>48491409thats not how the rules work
how long do I have to retain my semen for the RTK superpowers to kick in?
>>48491398a nip would never omit the apostrophe in imthats just a djt thing
rly cant tell if this nigga's trolling
please could someone tell me what does the に after アリーナー風の男の子 do here?>自分と同じ大学生くらいの女の子や、フリーター風の男の子に、少し年上の主婦と思われる女性、年齢も服装もバラバラの15人ほどのアルバイトが、ぎこちなく店内をうろついていた。
>>48491676truly a mystery for the ages
im more perplexed by アリーナー風の男の子
>>48491766a transgender with the air of a fleeter
oh wait you were making fun of his dyslexia lol
https://youtu.be/iXgKB8TnoCEimmersion
>>48491800based
>>48491676and
waashi wa washi deshita
>>48491899and? and what?? out with it boy anon needs his answer
>>48491899not quite but close
>>48491575i dothats more than enough to prove you wrong
>>48491951bongta boutta embarrass himself lessgoo
夛
>>48491964vocaroo
>>48491998nta but why do you keep asking for things when you never do anything yourself
>>48491010yeah, my most favorite method
>>48491998its almost 11pm
>>48490080you should use rikaitan.
are we back?
>>48491951so what is it?
>>48492166feel it out
>>48492076Nah
think it's time for me to start learning japanese, where do i start? i know some of the hiragana already so i think it should be pretty easy
>>48492166and
COMPLETE THE LISTjapanese is based because...- learners get hung up on some shit, feel the need to ask 'what's this mean?', and the answer is literally just 'and'happened ~3 times in the last week in this very general
>>48492442and?
just can't figure this out man
just add gger after it
>>48492527the に is basically saying 'and'. tried to find the grammar explanation for you but i got lazy
anyone know the answer?
>>48492752ななみ
>>48492768賢い！！
>>48492752ななみん
so does 鈴口 actually mean 亀頭 or does it mean 尿道口
>>48492779that nigga already solved it you shoulda done a different screenshot
nothing bad about leaving a hint
>>48492752that is just insulting
yeah 2 manlets
>>48492742https://vocaroo.com/
>>48492752こうした難問には誰でも弱るだろうな
looks like money's tight right now for whatever that is bc that's one cheaply composed shot. got to 節約 where you can i guess
its so over
>>48484086そりゃそりゃそりゃそりゃ完全無欠の女退治！！
>>48493163lol she has the same underwear as me haha
>>48493163i look like this
>>48493177https://vocaroo.com/
you guys have cats?
>らめれすI can't for the life of me figure out what this is
>>48493732だめです
>>48493736Wait is it literally fucking scooby doo talk? Fucking lmao
wait, is どうして two words? is a stem of suru in here?
wait is 食べている two words? why is いる in here?
it doesnt matter
>>48493950Yes I think
>>48493966>>48493950also どうしたの, that supposedly means "what's wrong" but that's just "what was happening", right?>>48493962-te iru means something is happening right now, iirc
wait, is どうして two words? is a stem of suru in here?Yes I thinkalso どうしたの, that supposedly means "what's wrong" but that's just "what was happening", right?-te iru means something is happening right now, iirc
>>48493982More like "what happened (question mark)"
just finished my first book bros. yay
>>48494269Hell yeah, brother
>>48492527obviously not completely the same as and
>>48494269Always a good feeling. How many times did you suddenly feel compelled to stop and just. Wow, I'm reading Japanese, it's real.I'm sure you had your nose in the dictionary and it was painful at times but keep going, you're gonna make it.
>>48494300toxic positivity
reading your first book you miss so much even if you can follow the plot
>>48494338I should go back and reread Kizumonogatari. I remember the action scenes were pretty confusing. I wonder how much of that was my newness and how much was Nisio not being great at action scenes.
>>48493631why you ping me with that n5 shit you gotta death wish?
>>48494357nta but pretty sure parts of it are above n5guess its hard to tell for someone who isnt very good
>どうしたものか is actually just "what should i do">た creates a reflective, contemplative tone
>た creates a reflective, contemplative tonelol
>>48494461ydkn
誰がそんなことを信用するものか
dont tell me n in ydkn stands for what i think it does
What are some websites with Japanese scans?For some reason they seem to be completely absent
>>48494500お前にはそれよりもっと切実な問題がないのかい？たとえば、そのまだ若いのにすでに額の一番上まで後退した髪の生え際？
>>48494500scans of what?
>>48494544this dick! lots of scrolling required. might wanna rotate that monitor into vertical orientation
>>48494556lil bro...
>>48494481norwegian i assume
>>48494566誓って言うよ、俺の三本目の足の長さが邪魔になって足元がよろけるようになることもたまにある
>>48494600dame wish i could read this
>>48494600>言うよyou sound gay
>>48494600>足元がよろけるようになる
>>48494659i'm sure you learned all about sounding gay from your dad>>48494668問題はどこにありますか
9 months in and there are still entire anime scenes where I have no idea wtf is being said then other times I watch entire episodes without pausing
>>48494682life of a nigga (non-derogatory)
>どうしたものか is actually just "what should i do">た creates a reflective, contemplative tone9 months in and there are still entire anime scenes where I have no idea wtf is being said then other times I watch entire episodes without pausing
9 years in and i still dont know japanese
>>48494679it would just be 足がよろけるor more naturally こけそうになるよろけるようになる is pretty unnatural
>I watch entire episodes without pausingnotice he never actually claims to know what is being said, he just doesn't pause
>>48493746he's struggling while talking. like when people talk with their mouths full
>>484946829 months is nothingyou dont even realise how much youre missing and wont for years
>>48494707trueone of my favorite copes is 'i cant translate it but i just understand it'
>>48494720wait that's a boy? sauce?
>>48494722one of my fav copes is you not making any vocaroos bc ydkj
>>48494724It's a futa
>>48494707One with common sense could assume he meant he pauses when he doesn’t understand something
>>48494600そのポークビッツしまえよ
>>48494722Who says this it’s nonsensical
Lately, I've become fascinated with a language-learning methodology known as ALG, aka automatic language growth. I'm sure many of you here have heard of it already, but for those who haven't, ALG is effectively Stephen Krashen's input hypothesis taken to its logical conclusion: One should learn language in one way and one way only: By understanding messages.A summary of the key aspects of ALG and the hypotheses surrounding it are as follows:One should learn exclusively by listening to the target language. No looking up words. No asking questions about the language. No grammar study. No flash cards. No speaking. No reading. No thinking about the language. Only comprehensible input from native speakers speaking out loud. If you violate any of the tenets, you could cause irreparable permanent damage to your ultimate potential for mastery of the language, be it in regard to accent or fluidity of speech/production.For English speakers learning Thai (the first language for which this learning method was trialed), it's estimated that after around 800 hours of listening, Thai learners will naturally begin to produce speech, but still in small quantities. It's only after many thousands of hours of immersion are learners expected to begin speaking in full sentences.The results that have allegedly been achieved utilizing this methodology are what has impressed me. It's suggested that with absolutely no manual study of the language, and no conscious effort whatsoever, learners who engage fully with ALG often wind up with native-like accents and speech production, and describe speaking and listening to the language as feeling equivalent to their own native language after around two and a half to five years of study. The number of people who have utilized exclusively the ALG method for learning is very small, however, and some of the ideas surrounding concepts such as permanent damage don't seem to be completely fleshed out; the potential for repairing this damage has not been measured, as far as I'm aware.Unlike the AJATT method, which is heavy on flash cards, this all-natural approach seems like exactly what the "read more" DJTers should really be saying: Listen more and get natural comprehensible audible input. Instead of using flash cards, never look up any words and learn purely through context from immersion. Obviously, when it specifically comes to kanji studies, you will likely need to utilize some sort of flash card learning, but ideally that should be learned separately from the words themselves if you were to follow the input hypothesis fully. Written language is practically like an expansion for the original spoken word; it's not really the language itself.I'm curious what people's thoughts are on this, as I've only recently become fully aware of it. It seems like the most natural conclusion that any immersion advocate should come to, and I'm surprised it is so unpopular and unknown.Here is a short video discussing the method with a little bit more detail, as well as a bit of its history: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW8M4Js4UBA
>>48489625No retard.That's a phrase, not a word.
Lately, I've become fascinated with a language-learning methodology known as ALG, aka automatic language growth. I'm sure many of you here have heard of it already, but for those who haven't, ALG is effectively Stephen Krashen's input hypothesis taken to its logical conclusion: One should learn language in one way and one way only: By understanding messages.A summary of the key aspects of ALG and the hypotheses surrounding it are as follows:One should learn exclusively by listening to the target language. No looking up words. No asking questions about the language. No grammar study. No flash cards. No speaking. No reading. No thinking about the language. Only comprehensible input from native speakers speaking out loud. If you violate any of the tenets, you could cause irreparable permanent damage to your ultimate potential for mastery of the language, be it in regard to accent or fluidity of speech/production.
get new material
>>48494794>>48494803>>48494815What was the point of this gay shit?
>>48494727getting caught samefagging is mine>>48494767cdawgva and a few others
>>48494827how is getting caught a cope idgi
lmao
n1 vocab spotted in the wild. (相応しい)任務 appears a lot in games..i've seen it in ff7 and now naruto...
n1 vocab spotted in the wild. (相応しい)
>>48494922remember feeling like a god for learning the kanji for 相応しい turns out its extremely common
>>48494931Here's something more rare for you.含羞む
>>48495111never seen that in kanji
wotdはにかみ笑い
naruto's dattebayo gimmick is getting on my nerves
need help deciding thisso i am doing anki as everyoneand i put word with kanji in front and with translation and audio in the back.so many times i am not able to recall the word and when i hear the audio i can tell what that word meanand it got me thinking why not i put audio in the first toowon't it make it more useful for mebut i feel like it may hinder my progress as i will only focus on audioso i need option .to give example if there are 100 cards i failed , but with audio i can pass atleast 40 .
wotd 新聞now lets get a vocaroo
simbun
>>48495255
did anacreaon ever pass the n1?he was supposed to take it last year
how sad is your life to think about analgayon
>>48495255>now lets get a vocaroo
i miss anacreon
>>48495255>>48495259you really thought he was gonna do it? what's wrong with you? no really, what went wrong with you in the past?
>>48495153羞? It's super common.
>>48495305nah but now hell need to find a new cope>>48495325learn english
>>48495325never seen that (word written) in kanji
>>48495334thought i'd at least get one measily little article out of it but no...
>>48495345wut
Don’t immerse much cause anime has been boring lately and reading is shit but I guess it’s not all bad since this means I’m learning the language at a rate actually equivalent to how much I need it in my life (well for hobbies)But I seriously can’t even focus on watching two anime episodes after work I used to watch hours and hours a day
>>48495380had you bought a copy i would've nagged you photograph some articles
don't tell visa and mastercard about this jutsu!
wish i could show hiroyuki just how shit his site is
>>48495383depression sucks, doesn't it
>>48495405can you kill youself PLEASE
>>48495500>oiroke jutsusexo! :O
>>48495405Die right now
>>48495652息子に息子を乗せるんじゃない！ >:3
>>48495667:3
>>48495690;3
>>48495712:33
>>48495717>>48495717>>48495717
>>48495784>>48495259
>>48495796gonna need a timestamp with it
>>48495803cope it has the date and thats clearly the same hand as in my timestamped pics
>>48495815lmfao called out my friend
>>48495784=3i'm infected...
>>48495827same same
>>48495578Huh nah I feel great just anime is boring sadly
>>48495825nah you are just willingly ignoring the fact that its clearly my hand
>>48495885ye ikr what kinda loser has depression LOL
>>48495911i think youre the one who ignored my terms tho lol
>>48495914I’m sorry bro just uhhh be happy
>>48495915bro you lost again
>>48495926lil bro the extremely tight angle combined with the blurry text adds a lot of questionsgonna need a better photo to prove it wasnt faked along with some form of timestamp
NEW NON PEDOPHILE THREAD>>48495969>>48495969>>48495969
>>48495259>>48495959seconding this, here are my questions>why did it take you months to do this?>why did you refuse to do this every single time until now?>where's the timestamp?>why's the pic so zoomed in?>why is everything you do so deliberate and conspicuous as shit?you are probably the biggest bullshitter in the history of djt so i do admit it's kind of funny watching you try to prove your larp over and over again
>>48495986why cant he even make a single vocaroo or post a picture of his danish passportthis whole thing would never have happened if he wasnt pretending to be mei can post vocaroos and he cant
>>48496001ive posted plenty of vocaroos thoi cant help it if youve retroactively taken credit for all the ones ive made up until now
>>48496001so you're just not gonna answer any of my questions? ok bro lol
>>48496010make one right now and end it
>>48496071nuh uh uh you know the rules
>>48496075its obvious you wont post a single vocaroo because your voice would be clearly different and ydkjat least you stopped the ai cloning cope
i just dont get why you have to pretend to be mejust be yourself this is really sad for you
>>48496081the irony of all of this is that you couldve btfod me with a proper pic and timestamp
>>48496088yeah true but this is honestly ridiculous and very clear cut already
>>48496098you not taking another is probably the weirdest part of all of this but i already figured youd try to fake a pic
>>48496138the weirdest part is you pretending to be me for the past half year
>>48496172or perhaps it was you being bongta
>>48496195true that was a weird thing you started trying to force to get out of explaining why i have things like a japanese toilet
>>48496223i didnt force anything you literally screwed up and replied to me with the wrong trip lol
おはようおにいちゃん次スレくらいちゃんとつくれ
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