Previous Floor:>>48622098Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkawNew child mechanics guide for Elona+: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NFElona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GXExtra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htmElin EA (use a Steam Emulator like Goldberg): https://gofile.io/d/JiSjhhElin Wiki: https://ylvapedia.wikiElin Player Guide-Compilation: https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Player_Guides
>>48635239This, but as a humble Hillfolk Miner.
Why noa hates 草食系男？
Noa just fucking killed farmers with this and the population cap nerf.What a fucking bitch
>Minmaxxers in my Elin thread again
If your stamina is at 0, and you plan to craft multiple items at once, will you only take HP damage once, equal to the total stamina cost? Or will you take damage equal to the sum of what I assume is an arithmetic progression?For example, if the craft costs 2 and I craft 4x times, will I take 8 HP or 20 HP damage?
>>48638038>If your stamina is at 0, and you plan to craft multiple items at once, will you only take HP damage once, equal to the total stamina costonly dismantling have this feature
>>48638038Sum of arithmetic progression, multiple instances of damage. Things like lay hands will only save you once.
>>48638028How is this even supposed to work without soil and sunlight?
>>48638104Just because it's fertile doesn't means there's sunlight.Also,>soilIt's Elin bro, you can pretend you are an alchemist with just a single hammer, digging the ground and making soil appear is nothing.
If I had known when I started, I would've gone for a Knight pet, inquisitor class with bane stripping Itzpalt resistance would've been massive
best fertility mod? I am not fucking with noa messing with this shit every update
>>48638104>sunlightsun lamps>soiltents are magic containers
>>48638153Don't do it man, find creative workarounds and play with the quiet satisfaction that you're doing so legitimately
So, I should probably go to the silent beach and mine out 1000's of sand for free right?
not sure how to reply to previous thread comments but bless the two anons who did Yaia sprites.I play gbf and Yaia is so good. I love breasts so much
>>48638184>Don't do it maneat my ass keeping 8 members fed is retarded>bro just start doing animalseat my ass I don't need STR I need everything else
>>4863819315 gold per tent (50 fertility) is too much for you? It's still much better deal than soil policy
>>48638185why not go to the next beach tile and dig sand without a karma penalty to begin with
>>48638205white sand looks like that
>>48638203>It's still much better deal than soil policysoil policy should be 25 each tier minimum. It is comically under powered give enough for like 2 plants each
Is there a mod that makes NPC sprites and portraits more cohesive, so they at least don't look completely different?
Making a discord for Elin was a mistake.You don't want to mess with autists.Noa only needs to see a fucker bragging and being smug once to stop working on new content, instead wasting time with "balancing" just so he can feel better about it.
>>48638420>Noa only needs to see a fucker bragging and being smug once to stop working on new content, instead wasting time with "balancing" just so he can feel better about it.never even considered that. Yeah discord is just going to be mind poison for him with people badgering him to waste his time and his autism wanting to tinker with shit that doesn't matter
Can someone recommend a good race/class combo for learning the game? Succubus witch feels wrong.. is there a good solo class?
Does all materials cost the same amount of stamina to hammer? No matter the amount?
>>48638420>Noa makes a slight change to stop an exploit>HE STOPPED WORKING ON CONTENT
>>48638420Someone should inform of what happened to the Underrail dev when he let ego compromise his artistic vision.
>>48638447What happened to him?
>>48638028Good. Play the game properly.
>>48638440>over a month behind on promised content>trying to imply for a second this isn't objectively slowing down real content (you)
>>48638458>promised>didn't hit a vague timeline he mentionedamazing
>>48638437Warrior hillfolk/demigod/golem
>>48638452tl;dr he fucked up his game to appease the hordes of brow-beating minmaxxers who think a single player RPG needs to adhere to some arbitrary notion of balance, like completely ruining his magic system and replacing it with a badly designed D&D spell slot system the game is clearly not intended for (unless you like save-scumming every fight in order to equip the extremely highly situational spell in your repertoire of psionics). Goes both ways though, like deliberately inserting an NPC into a game that can completely destroy your character by capping their accuracy at 70% without the game ever informing you of this nerf.
>>48638482*into the game
>>48638447I don't frequent the underrail community, looking from the outside it seems nothing happened. Psi is still reworked isn't it? And Underrail 2 looks like it might be neat.
Noa should do it like some other game devs, and make a discord to discuss ONLY bugs and each current patch.Yes, discords like that exist. One example is the official discord for an obscure game called Wakfu. Discussing irrelevant shit is an instant mute/kick because "there's a forum for that".
There a good guide anywhere for getting started with Elin? I don't really know what I'm doing and once I reach the first dungeon section of the quest board I get lost on what I'm supposed to do. Do I just grind until I can beat the dungeon, cause I known there's a lot of other stuff you can do instead.
>>48638506>an obscure game called Wakfulol
Oh my god you can steal anything on the map
>>48638563>Do I just grind until I can beat the dungeon, cause I known there's a lot of other stuff you can do instead.pretty much. Make a boomerang even if you don't intend on staying with thrown weapons since it is ridiculous right out the gate
>>48638471thanks hillfolk warrior it is, and first day got a Putit in amber this run is blessed.
>>48638506Does he even care about managing a discord server? The current "official discord" was just an Elona chatroom by and for western fans, where he got the admin rights by asking nicely. Pretty sure it's still moderated by the same guys from Elona wiki and Noa just posts Elin updates in his corner.
I'm going to create multiple accounts and even use AI to translate my posts and post in the Elin/Elona discord just to increase the chances of me getting seen by Noa.Guess what I'm going to post?I hate CHEATERS and EXPLOITERS.>>48638585He might not care about managing, but he still sees what other people post. And that's what matters.
>>48638593Use F11 function like I do, it worksOr alternatively, if you don't use Nighty, fuck off
>>48638579Oh ok. Does the game pick up more afterwards? I just wanna start building my base up and becoming a merchant.
So i bought a carbuncle pet to use as a buffer with the aim of hopefully teaching it spells like holy light and hero. Is the only way to do that now via gene engineering?What weapon should i give him btw? I tried giving him gaki's short sword but i'm not sure if that's a good idea. There doesn't appear to be any weapons that scale off WIL and i would need to teach him a WIL spell i guess, and thats really hard with the current limitation on teaching pets spells.I dont think theres any mod that makes it easier to teach pet spells right?
>>48638669You can, have fun figuring out ins and outs
>>48638669You can start doing that from get-go. You don't really have to go further than F2 of Nymelle to recruit Farris to continue that and then follow Loytel's quest line to unlock stuff related to that.
>>48638437warning : you pretty much need to learn magic in this game, the buffs/debuffs are very strong and there are a lot of useful utility spells like magic map. Maybe try a paladin, faith bonuses are huge in this game, there are big power spikes when you get the special rewards from a god.Melee is kind of weak currently compared to late game magic though, since magic has a 100% hit chance and can scale damage to huge numbers. Melee tends to miss a lot.
>meanwhile ranged is forgottennot like this archerbros...
>>48638708Throwing weapon damage scaling nerfs are next in line after farming and paper tents.
How do I raise the breeding skill of a livestock?
>>48638690>>48638704Cool, I'll just jump to that then and learn. There a good starter class you recommend?
why are all my tools vanishing when I'm not fighting people?
>>48638791Are they in shared containers?
>>48638802no they vanished out of my hotbar
>>48638809Press Ctrl? There are two separate hotbars
>>48638813yeah already checked that. lost my steel pickaxe fuck
>>48638705wait so being a retarded hillsfolk warrior is actually bad? I've been bamboozled?
>>48638708If ranged gets any changes at all I'd expect it to be stricter formulae for throwing and/or ammo, and throwing getting a Best Range: 1 or 2 slapped on. It's already really strong. Skills could be cool, but for crossbow/gun at least sound bolt/ball easily solves anything that shooting doesn't.
>>48638820bro your blankets?
>>48638823Don't worry, until you get to this level you're going to be 200 hours in and Noa will drop updateYou're futureproofing yourself
Any anons want to try slopping the hair out of this sprite?
>>48638708Everything ranged that is not magic will probably be nerfed to the ground
Would Noa really nerf every other source of dps before fixing melee...?
If ranged is nerfed I'd just wait until Elin+ GX is released or something.Figure out how to balance shit that's underperforming before fixing things that are already working.Magic is already powerful enough, let everyone play on the same field.
>>48638973>Would Noa really nerf every other source of dps before fixing melee...?>He doesn't know
>>48638986Good, hitting things without magic is obviously cheating, because Noa never intended you to do that!
Elin finally releases its 1.0 version in which the only way to progress is to play as a snail tourist
literally me in the book
>>48638482That's a bizarre interpretation of events. You're retelling that as though someone put a gun to his head and demanded that he change the way psi powers worked while twirling their villain mustache. People gave honest critique that pure psi was overpowered and almost mindless compared to other builds because you had a Go-Go-Gadget tool for every situation ontop of it being the least gear-dependent and resource-intensive build. Styg agreed and even admitted that he was struggling to add new content because he had to actively think of how how to create encounters that psi users wouldn't steamroll, and he didn't feel like he could add any new psi powers because he'd be compounding on the problem even further.He made the changes that he wanted under his own will.
This basebuilding dogshit system is the worst Elin feature.Elona+ is better
Making a tourist trap base makes it a bit easier to suspend my disbelief of having these guys around
>a fanatic of Kizuami of Trickery (Overmatched)>a follower of Horome of Moonshadow (Overmatched) (Higher Ground) (+1 other item)Weren't they siblings? Are their followers doing some kind of BDSM play?
>>48639206Gods can be nice, while many of their followers can be retarded. The best example is Jure. Her followers are trying to relly hard to whore their goddess.Or they just caught an impostor.
I saw this in the last thread, what is this screen? I've never seen it before in stable diffusion.
>>48639282That's ComfyUI, a different frontend for sloppin (not them, but I use it too)A bit more awkward to set up but I like it.
What's the watch fire actual lightning area? 2x2?
how does the fighter guild reward work? ive been killing rare and evolved monsters and i havent gotten any orens lately
>>48639503What rank are you
>>48639543rank 5
>>48639550You should hear the cash sound when you kill nefia bosses
>>48639562is it random? i havent gotten it on the nefia boss either, i swear a week ago i would get like 3k/5k orens per evolved/rare/boss mob killed
Is farming supposed to be shit in the beginning? 5-6 days to grow crops, can't have more than 25-30 at once because of fertility, can't make anything even when you get the crops because you don't have recipes, etc.
>>48639632mushrooms grow in 1 day, try farming this first
>>48639590Seems to always happen
>>48639671Phil...
>>48639632Don't forget to water and fertilize your crops.
raping corgon in front of qui
>>48639739Raping both at the same time, one on top of the other style, fuck yea
uooooo
>be me 10 hours into game>"Finally I have steel pickaxe! It was hard but I can't wait to upgrade it with something stronger">it's been 50 hours since thenbros I'm gonna cry,,,,
is elona+ endgame worth it?I've never went past southern tyris, I think the hardest thing I done was killing Yerleswood. Is the third continent fun?
I've been living in the capital for a few days now. Clean beds, good food, plenty of opportunities to earn money with my lute.Why go back to digging in the dirt?
>>48639786Chromite tracks from copper nefia, you will need shovelTo turn chromite scrap into ingots, you need to craft scrap into lanterns that you will dismantle with hammer
TOTAL MYSILIA DEATH
>>48638437Juere, yerles, and demigod are good general use races. The strongest race is almost certainly executioner. Priest is solid all around if you don't want to run the most OP option. Class isn't too important, pick whatever you want to play. A warrior can still become good at magic if you change your mind.
We need to have the "Drop a nuke on Mysilia" quest NOW!
>>48639786If you have a decent mining level (at least 31) you could try to visit the coast on the south-west of the little garden. You can sometimes find Mithril/Adamantine deposits out in the open to mine. Another option is digging the rails in the machine nefias (they're made out of chromite), with a steel shovel you'll want around 25 digging, and with the chromite scraps you can make chromite lanterns, which in turn can be hammered into chromite ingots (you'll need a steel hammer + 20 crafting). It's kind of annoying as it's quite convoluted but it's never a waste to level those skills.Last option would be gathering rubynus/diamond gems from wrecks in nefias, but that's kinda random and I'm unsure if you can find those under danger level 30 nefias.
>>48639832I wish there were at least more quests available on each quest board.It sucks starting on oath of eternity, going to mysillia, and seeing that all quests are fucking garbage.
>>48639850Elona had like double or triple the quests
elin plus cant come soon enough
>>48639859Don't worry, I'm sure piss and scat fetish mods are coming
>>48639821i make double that amount harvesting a single sunlamp worth of blueberries
>>48639871Who cares about money? I'm just having fun and collecting platinum coins.
Palmia and its alive King are cool though
I hope Noa adds charisma vs will stat check on seduction.
>>48639823>>48639849>>48639888thank you fellas, have this funny screenshot of a wisp with a robe
What did I walk into...
>>48639671i didn't know hp lovecraft played elin
>recruit Farris>sells 8x scroll of evacuation and 8x scroll of return>buffs and heals when in the partyI haven't had her for even one day and I'm already S2 loving S2 her SO MUCHgod, how is it possible that she knew EXACTLY the things I wanted?? And for so cheap too!That's it. I'm going to marry her now.
>>48639940I will also train symbiosis and always stay together forever with her (except when I need to purchase things from her).I don't care about the loss of accuracy, speed or whatever. Together, I will be her and she will be me.
Oh yeah? You ain't seen nothing yet, bitch.
does anybody unironically play this using rods and scrolls and such, seems like such a pain in the ass to playu like that
>>48639975no
>>48639975evac and return are needed but everything else can get sold
>>48639975item magic is based off your magic device skill so if you just pump that you can do competent magic without having to grind individual spells or whatever
So how many years do I have to wait until mods pervert this into a pseudo-Violated Heroine/LonaRPG clone?
>>48639975I caught Loytel playing with his rod late one night in the Meadow...
>>48640032was your little girl also there?
does Noa hate snails and also tourists?
>>48640085Yes, and you should too.
>eye of mananoa why
Noa really need to reworks on the quest asap.Why the fuck this shit keeps happening? I don't want to play music.
>>48640291i'm not getting music quests enough
>>48640291Maybe you should be taking requests somewhere other than Palmia or Lumiest then.
>>48640291as a War quest only enjoyer it hurts to have to stick to palmia for the good shit
>>48639859Yes, I can't wait for the rare loot trigger, bring forbidden from holding more than 100 plat, level 6666 mobs that spawn if you grind too long in a map, speed ratio being locked at 5 to 1, the chain hit penalty, being not allowed to earn xp unless I play the main story, and forced investment in shops.Sounds like a blast!
>>48640381>speed ratio being locked at 5 to 1bitch you're so butthurt at e+ you're whining about stuff that wouldn't even affect elin
>>48640291The fuck, anon? Go somewhere else, different towns have had their quest selections weighted differently since Elona.
does anyone have that noob05-pixelart-unet only-dec29 lora that was posted in the previous thread? the catbox files say its corrupt and i can't open it.
>>48640383Nta but I'm getting 1.2k+ speed on my void scaled spiral king mount. It would definitely affect combat. Also, with ice, slow and gravity it's very possible to slow monsters by a lot.
>>48640392What town should I go if I want those quests to defeat enemies in a map? Defeat X enemies quests work too.Defeat X of Y quests such though.
>>48640381Cant wait for Elin Custom-GX!
>>48640405you know how segmented zips work? catbox force renames files so you have to make both parts match
>>48640470I thought I knew how they work, but i think I'm just retarded and its never working for me.I'll figure it out eventually.
AaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaWhy can't you go down stairs while blinded?I don't care if I fall down and break my balls while doing it, just let me do it already
How many bone powder do you have to offer to Mani to get the follower? What about if I also want to get the artifacts?
>>48640967make pipes instead
>>48640973And how do I get the recipe to make pipes?
>>48640978wheel shrine or by dismantling pipes with at least 7 blacksmithing
why do people hate balancing? this is a roguelike as much as it is a sandbox, i feel like noa is doing a good job as the judge and patching out the real stupid retard shit. just keep adapting and finding workarounds.or you can simply add another mod to your pile, plenty of players use cheat mods like GanExtendDisplay and moongates so your run is already "tainted" anyway>inb4 "he's wasting time doing this instead of adding shit"i doubt this takes any meaningful time away from him
Moongates are fucking useless because to this day I haven't found one with all god altars to make my life easier.
>>48640991you haven't found mine theni also had all the apostles out and a bunch of golden snow putits when i published it last week
>>48640985I'd be pretty pissed too if something I invested tens of hours into setting up got wrecked so I get it, but I agree with you completely. The changes so far have been good and/or reasonable, and it's expected there'd be loopholes considered a bit too big in early access
>>48640985There is no right way to play a fucking sandbox game. Killing certain ultra specific exploits just to spite the top 1% players is a massive display of faggotry.
Game will never be released on consoles anyways so why the fuck care about balance.Everyone, including (You), is a fucking cheater anyways.I'm the only honest player in this godforsaken world.
>>48641032The game needs to balanced in a way you cannot have fun. This is the way of the eleven game dev.
i would publish mine but every day i find something to work on in my town and decide against it because it could still look bettert. 400hrs
you'd have to be a bit silly to think rainbow fruit spam in tents was intentional behavior
does farming trees not work like with crops? i have a sign down but they dont seem to be getting auto harvested at all
>>48641243yes it does, they might just take longer
>>48641173>NOOOO!!! you're supposed to leave everything broken! the only way i have fun is if im at void level nigger999 by using exploits left and right! who's going to feed my 300 little girls?>you CANNOT fix things after they're added even though this is an early access game>if i use the console then i cannot apply mental gymnastics to not feel like im cheating! NOA YOU HACK!!!
>>48641265Who are you quoting, nigger?
>he's a cheaterHow does it feels? Using the baby walker?
Oh my. I just learned you can catch little ones (not sure why I thought you couldn't catch humans). I have been killing them and eating the meat this whole time. I feel bad now.
My hathawanon, where are ye?I want the portraits...
>>48641597Worst character in the fucking game
I've been using Putit In Amber since I started.
I understand why Noa is balancing and nerfing things. It's simple because people will inevitably get bored of the game due to broken things.
>>48641679>It's simple because people will inevitably get bored of the game due to broken things.People get bored of the game because there is NO NEW CONTENT. In any case, these nerfs only give me less reasons to play the game because I'm not just going to dive the 6 nefia designs with the same 20 enemies forever
>>48641704New content was recently added.
i left my chest in tinkers camp that had a bunch of good items while i tried i tried hauling a stone bed all the way to mysilia, it took me over a week to make it back and now my chest is gone. what happened to it? im about to kill the entire village.
This is too powerful
>>48641715The game is about diving fucking dungeons.There is barely any new Nefia content
i just want Kumiromi to be summonable in game so I can make him mpreg.
>>48641741The game is not about diving dungeons when you have to spend as much time farming, crafting and doing quests as you do currently.Dungeon diving for real only comes later.
>>48641885ETERNAL LEAGUE OF NEFIA
Is using Moongates on Oath of Eternity considered cheating?
>>48641906Yes. But cheating is good for you.
>>48639159>That's a bizarre interpretation of events. You're retelling that as though someone put a gun to his head and demanded that he change the way psi powers worked while twirling their villain mustache.Stupid strawman. I'm only pointing that the dangers of having a private echo chamber and doing everything in your power to either spite or appease them (again, it goes both ways). Don't even need to address the rest of the post because it's obvious you don't know shit. Bear traps/caltrops/molotovs/gas grenades are all more heavily indicative of Underrail's failings as a game than a completely optional, funny cave wizard build.
>>48641906Yes. And >>48641913 is also right.Why torture yourself? If you think it's necessary, just do it.For example, if I was playing on Oath of Eternity, no way I'd make the fucking trip to Truce Ground just to worship Kumiromi, since for some reason there's no shrine on Yowyn of all places.
I like Moongates because they allow me to quickstart my character's build (and also my party member's items) as soon as I get some initial dosh (from selling flowers, floors, powders etc.)
I like moongates because I get to see fun things other people have made.
Created a Juere Thief for the roleplay aspect.What are some good things to pickpocket early on?
>>48641995Tinker's Camp hammockFortune Bell panties posters and trunksNefu Village/Somewhere futons
>>48641887Never heard of it.
How is the chance of someone spotting you pickpocketing calculated? I read somewhere that it's to do with the combination of your Stealth and Pickpocket skills vs how many witnesses there are and the target's (and maybe surrounding witnesses') Perception stat, but is there a point where you can pickpocket people in a crowded area (say, the Golden Bell 'outside' area) and no one notices a thing? I've seen some funny JP min-maxer streamers where they've gone so far that they can do stuff like just take paintings off Palmia Castle in the reception room without anyone catching them in the act, without needing to teleport/'push' them away first. And speaking of which, do artifacts from unique adventurers 'respawn' if you steal them, or do you need to kill them to forcibly respawn their inventory?
How do special mobs load their unique portraits? Like little sisters. Does every mob check if there's a special portrait with their name on it when loading in? Or are only special mobs hard coded to use their portraits? Are monsters hard coded to use no portrait? I was thinking if I made multiple variants for a sprite, and matching portraits, I could use texture expand to have mobs pick one of their sprite variants based on which of their portraits they get.
How effective are ranged weapons and throwing weapons when starting out, in early-game, if you have no skills associated with them?I'm talking about using a wooden bow + stone arrows or stone boomerang while being a wizard/warmage.
>>48642187My pickpocket is 81 now and I'm pretty much guaranteed to get away with it, even in crowds. I do have to be careful around the higher level adventurers, so I think it is something like your pickpocket level must exceed the perception level of everyone around you.
>>48642187Don't bother being fancy, just kill everyone so noone can stop you.
>>48642219boomerangs (and mic/panty/gong) are immediately strong regardless of what you start as
>>48642187You can check AI_Steal.Run() if you want to see the exact details, but basically every NPC within 4 tiles checks if "1dX > Y", where X is their PER stat with several multipliers (2.5x, 2x if the NPC is unique, 2x if stealing something that's at least legendary-tier, and another 2x if it's an artifact), and Y is your DEX+Pickpocket, +30 if the NPC can't see you.
Is Dream Waker a noobtrap? I had better results on my resets by by ignoring it and taking party animal instead (after making a rudimentary mushroom farm ofc)
>>48642259You should pick DW if you need it to get Farris, then grab PA if you need it to have her in your party. I don't think Poppy is worth PA.It's not noobs that it's trapping though. More experienced players seem to way overvalue DW. You see people talking about limiting starting Domains to optimize the spells you get from it when DW becomes mostly irrelevant by mid game when you should have enough investment in magic shops and memorization to never have to worry about your spell stock.
I'm almost out of townbuilding hell, never expanding my home base again
>>48642353I made the mistake of doing that and now I wish I stayed with the original size
>>48642353I'm in a perpetual loop of buying deeds to make newly themed settlements before the last one is fully finishedthis one looks kind of neat but wasn't very practical in the end
>>48642417>perpetual loop of buying deedsI wish I had crazy money like that, I'm struggling to invest in my library of mages. Unless you've been going broke buying deeds
>>48642429I'm breaking even with honey and resident taxes but I'm not investing in anything since I keep town hopping, very inefficient
>play with my rod anon
Is a generator the only option for power?
>>48641722If you can't find it using ctrl+f then the town was probably reset. Only thing that "survives" that are tents.>>48641173Would you consider gacha machine+hammering down stuff an exploit? There's a lot of sandbox elements to Elin, so I can understand why some people think it was totally normal, if making the tent paper was reducing the weight of items inside was considered ok, why would it not be ok to have a farm in it? In any case, I think Noa should make a pass on all harvestable elements at some point to balance things out, and maybe have a way for us to make more crops to cook. Right now I think too many people rely on kettle duping their foods,>>48642630Generator is the only "independent" option for power. You can wish for more if you want (wish for snowman generators, they are lighter). After that you have the wheel of pain and the there is another one similar but those require you to leave residents there to provide electricity, and I think you have to box them in with training dummys or something. Personally I use strong residents/animals (say for example a shiva) with a job that provides electricity like smoking, exercise, meditation (there are others). You can easily get 30-40 kW per resident with one hobby/job, and that's usually enough for me.
>>48642695For Wheel of Pain and such, can't you just make a really tall pillar of dirt blocks that can't be reached by normal means and then use the Build Board to move the Wheel of Pain and the vict- I mean, resident onto it? That way they cannot get off the 'dirt pillar'.It's in this same way that you can set livestock onto a single tile so that you can have like 30 NPCs for shearing all on one tile, so that you don't need to run around looking for your livestock in your ranch
Any tips for using a carbuncle? What weapon should i give them? How do i get them to cast good buffs?
>>48641265But the little girls and older younger sister that calls me onii-chan~ are the only good thing about the game tho
>>48643002>What weapon should i give them?Polearm and adamantite boomerang because your healer shouldn't be on the frontline, ideally you would be riding/hosting them.>How do i get them to cast good buffs?You put WIL gene in them.
>>48643002Carbuncle only uses (Minor?) Cure Wounds and Holy Veil. Preferably you would either be riding or hosting the Carbuncle (riding if you're not a fairy because they're pretty fast), so unless you always go into melee, a stat stick works for them but otherwise a ranged weapon. Also make sure to keep them fed while they cast spells to heal you so that they recover MP, and thus level Meditation (Starving pets do not naturally recover HP or MP, and thus cannot train Regeneration or Meditation).
>>48643066>>48643069i was hoping to get it to cast spells like holy shield and hero. the only mob that i know of that casts holy shield is the knight piece but i dont think its sold by trainers.
Mani keeps telling me to get a machine body but I'm guessing that's not possible
>>48643099it casts holy veil, minor cure and resurrection, if you want it to do more than that you are gonna have to play with gene modification or catch someone with those spells because as of now they wont learn new feats/spells any other way
>>48643099You'd have to capture it with a ball. Other than that, only gene engineering will provide the carbuncle that spell. Alternatively, if you're using the gan extended mod or whatever it's called, you can check peoples spells, and adventurer's have randomized spells, so maybe one of them will what you seek.
how does this even happen
If you dont like exploits getting patched out so much why not stop updating the game
So do I really have to keep paying taxes forever in this game? I know it's a trivial amount later, I just don't want to pay taxes
>>48643616That depends on how much you like not getting invaded.
>>48643408It's because the entire attack process is full of spaghetti code. Attack target is a global variable that's modified by a bunch of different functions between each consecutive attack.Even the bugfix adds more spaghetti, where he just resets the global variable back to the original attack target instead of not using global variables to begin with https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin-Decompiled/blame/main/Elin/ActMelee.cs#L207
>>48643616You could always not pay taxes and take the ever increasing karma hit (and all that entails). I've read at some point you get hostile npcs raiding your home but I'm not sure if it was a shitpost.Alternatively I'm sure there's a mod or a way to mod it out if it really bothers you I guess. I find it pretty painless once you get a taxbox in your bases so it's never really bothered me.
>>48643668You don't even need a tax box at home. You can have your taxes pay out of your bank account; just make sure there's enough money in there
I've got 125 public safety and it feels like attacks just keep happening regularly. If there's a cheat mod to get rid of the entire base spawning system I'd use it, for enemies and neutrals. Llamas will be culled once and for all
>>48643664the japanese yanderedev...
>>48643697I personally find that even more annoying but I also have to admit I like opening the salary and seeing how much I get from it. Is there any benefit in putting money in the banker npc if you don't use automatic payment for taxes/mailing and you always use the buried option (so reloading) upon death?
>>48643735What "solved" it for me was placing the monsters (be they natural spawned or through summon monster scroll) in tiles that are +10 elevation compared to the rest of the adjacent tiles. After that I usually try to round them up in a form resemblin a circle or C (make a pathway of elevated tiles and check every so often to see if they've moved and you can lower tiles to bring them closer together over time).After that, you can use that spot to train stealth+pickpocked and any other crafting/fishing from that spot (that way you get stealth xp while crafting and fishing). This also has definitely lowered or stopped the spawn for me. Don't do this in towns that are open to tourists though, because they will spawn inside the same tile as those monsters and if it's a strong npc it will clear the spot of monsters.You can also recruit fiama and ashland, I think their unique jobs help with spawning.
>>48643664How is he still shit at coding after 20 years?
>>48643735>a cheat mod to get rid of the entire base spawning systemhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3385438542
>>48643664>Attack target is a global variableHSP was a mistake
>>48643832Thank god, it doesn't really add anything to the game for me when I'm just trying to make a comfy town, just weird ass animals loitering around and inconvenient attacks that get reversed by a nurse the next day
>>48643740This isn't even the worst code you'll find in an indie game (especially a japanese one): a lot of popular games are built on top of layers upon layers of pasta that has somehow reached an equilibrium by sheer volume. You can write some absolute dogshit and it'll still work because modern computers are powerful enough to handle it.>>48643790It's basically Hot Soup Processor. It's presumably how he learned to code back in school and, since most game devs don't really have an incentive to become a better programmers, he's just stuck with what he knows.
That's it, you guys motivated me to learn how to code, if others can succeed with 1000 folded rice spaghetti code then so can I
indie dev moment
>>48644312>alchemy isn't even in the game yet(melee update... melee update!)
>>48644312I don't get it. Why did this need to be a hotfix?
What do people even expect from the melee update? What's the big deal?
when are aliens going to actually rape me noa
>>48641722use the damn delivery box
Do shopkeepers keep their investment level in moongates?
>>48644568cool shwinging and swooshing.some kablam and kaboom.a few *teleports behind you* backstab.a bit of parrying and countering.not sure how he's gonna do it though. sp can only be regained via sleep or lucky dagger unlike mana. which means, magic is inevitablly superior again.
>>48644617nope
>>48644640Dang, does hiding objects work in moongates at least? I notice a lot of people have their signs visible. I made a lot of use of hiding visibility to make my own town look right, would look stupid as hell if everything is forced visible.
>>48644637just make it use hp
>>48644637Shield bash and rush already exist. Most melee characters should have access to at least Cut and Nether, which scale with STR/END and have touch spells you can use for utility with minimal mana cost. If you have decent DEX or PER you can add Poison or Sound to that, which give you an arrow spell and the ability to Sound Bolt Dim on opponents respectively (alongside rods through magic device).
Spells aren't that good for melee characters because of the cast success chance.I'm not going to spend ages training my casting.
>>48645144Really doesn't matter much, sound bolt/ball took little effort to be reliable enough for use on a dual shield heavy armor gunner, and there's even less incentive to use spells with ranged weapons and Winchester Premium aoe+cc than there is for melee.
So, I have a party member.And there's a trainer that can teach a skill I want that party member to learn.How do I make the party member learn it?What's the minimum gold I need to give it for it to train? Should I give it in bulks or give it each time it trains a skill?
>>48645169You need to give that party member the related skill book. Alternatively, change the party member's hobby/job to ones that give the skill and leave them at home for a bit.
What is Public Moral and Public Safety?
How do I train my NPC companion? Currently I only have little girl, sometimes I also bring Farris. I'm not really that strong, either, but I still can tank few hits from Fair enemies
>>48645245https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Housing
>>48643790He probably just converted old Elona code. Elona was made on an old version of HSP which only had global variables. Even newer versions barely support local variables. And there are no structs.
>>48645295They get stronger just like the player would. Eating good food, getting better equipment, doing things that raise their skills, for NPC this is mostly combat related skills. So bring them along with you when you do nefias, put them/yourself on the gallow for others to gang up on.
I can't stop brushing everyone.I've already leveled taming 30 levels.Is this the power of ranching?
>>48645096>Shield bash and rush already exist.A rocket tag spact and a passive CC whoa. Melee builds don't want too many OPTIONS now, surely.
>>48645421any tips on stopping them from being afraid of the brush?
For starters, allowing you to coat weapons with potions to give them additional effects that activate on a proc (unlike talismans) would be good.
Melee weapons and bows need a sharpness meter!
>>48645437So you literally just want spells without needing to train them?
Noa should just rip off shit from D&D 3.5e like adopting Cleave, Power Attack, Trip, Grapple, maybe Sunder and Disarm.
>>48645449No no no, not spells.Potion effects, potions.Those are different.
>>48645445And durability. Everyone loves weapon durability.
>>48645164This, doubly so. Warriors are supposed to be casting spells, there are a whole bunch of them like bane, hero, holy shield and weakness that are strongly tilted or outright useless beyond a physical damage perspective.Judging by the first steps taken with warmonger and firearms and the direction of the games all the way back to Elona, those expecting spact spam are going to be sorely disappointed. Plus and to a lesser extent omake shit was predicated on stamina being a readily recoverable resource that was made even more so by the piss system heaping stamina on you to the point you can indefinitely spam ensemble. War requests make it clear that using stamina as a resource is a non-starter.What we're far more likely to see are passives, better equipment selection and management, living weapons, equipment intrinsics like polearms' reach attack and invokes. That kind of thing.
>>48645468Also make it so when a weapon with durability is destroyed, it deals bonus damage on the hit that destroys it!
The best compromise is adding magic tied to weapon skill.
>>48645461So melee will die helplessly grappled by tentacle monsters while mages will be able to safely burn them from afar?Let's not forget that all the melee balance changes will also work on enemies against anyone who stays in melee range.Getting close to enemy warriors will be even more dangerous regardless of whether you have the same abilities or not. You'll be outnumbered most of the time. And it'll likely cost you resources like stamina that your enemies won't even have to manage.
I don't think it really makes sense for swords/guns/bows to not make the target bleed on hit.If you shot at someone irl, no matter what the body part, that person would probably die of bleeding in 99% of situations if not taken care of.
>>48645469Could also just pull from other JRPGs, rename mana to like TP or SP and just have spacts pull from it too. Magic having stocks and not missing is enough to make it unique
>>48645544If we're spitballing. Often superhuman strength/skill may as well be magical in fantasy settings, perhaps have physical abilities use a flat MP cost + percentage MP cost so they're somewhat divorced from mana pool size but you can still raise your MP pool to get some benefit with the flat cost.Someone also mentioned just having skill trees before, very unlikely but I can dream of builds
Thanks to the guy who explained cobwebs and thread/texture mixing. Time to upgrade beds and bandages
>>48645499>So melee will die helplessly grappled by tentacle monsters while mages will be able to safely burn them from afar?Fair point. I still feel the game could benefit from a cleave spact though. Wouldn't really mind it if its just an innate weapon property to huge melee swords/axes though.
Anyone have a copy of the artbook?
Whats your strat for weighlifting leveling up?I currently have box with bunch of stones i take with me, that gets me to Burden! and when i pick item i want i just remove stones.Was wondering if there is smarter way
>>48645751Can you explain this to me now?
Any ways to permanently increase speed/life/mana?
>>48645881Sure. Recipe is hard to get, but if you're lucky enough to have it from a dream or something it's pretty cool.I didn't use grown cotton from the pic but had very high level silk from an overmatched neutral evolved beetle I was able to shear in the void
>>48641917> I'm only pointing that the dangers of having a private echo chamber and doing everything in your power to either spite or appease them (again, it goes both ways).And I pointed out that the situation with Underrail didn't mirror that at all. You're dramatizing events and making claims of appeasement when that didn't actually happen. If you going to try to make a point, then use an actual example of what you're speaking of.>Don't even need to address the rest of the post because it's obvious you don't know shitThere's no reason to be a booty-blasted faggot.>Bear traps/caltrops/molotovs/gas grenades are all more heavily indicative of Underrail's failings as a game than a completely optional, funny cave wizard buildHow are those things similar at all? Why would you not only try to equate universal tools that everyone has access to with a build, but do so after the specific issues with the build were explicitly pointed out? Faggotry is the obvious answer, but I'm not going to draw out the Underrail-specific side of this when there are more appropriate paces to screech about this.
>>48645901>life>manaJust play the game>speedEquipment, such as speed boots and rings are "permanent", that's it until you take them off.Lulwy and Kizuami? Permanent as long as you don't convert to another faith.There are mounts too, it's speed at will.
HP and MP increases from food isn't permanent because if I eat some shit made with vomit, feces, rotten food or troublesome soup and other gruels they will go down.
game needs a criminality update
love the feature where when your fishing level gets high enough it cancels itself every other cast because the fish is too big
>>48645993>fish is too bigI haven't reached that point yet, but wait.Are the fish you are able to catch on higher levels based on your carry weight, STR or something?
>>48645993Are we at the point of just making shit up or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?
>>48646008No.
i dont even know what higher level fishing does, i get the same rate of sharks, whales, medals as I did back at level 1
Love it that you have a chance of getting squashed when fishing at higher levels.
>he lies as he breathesYou can't cash whales and sharks at fishing level 1.
>>48646109you can catch anything at any level bro
Requesting help, anons.This is my first farm, i got base to level 2, have barrel with max priority for food, got farmer (which is also a gardner) but for some reason he just doesnt put mushrooms in the barrels
>he's unawareFarmers don't actually produce anything.
ew
Finally a good alias
>>48646162ok, so how do i actually automate my farm?
>>48645919>And I pointed out that the situation with Underrail didn't mirror that at all. You're dramatizing events and making claims of appeasement when that didn't actually happen. If you going to try to make a point, then use an actual example of what you're speaking of.Anon stated that Noa shouldn't have have interacted with the Discord echo chamber, and I agreed for reasons I've listed, which was derived from my own personal anecdotes of witnessing a similar pattern occur beforehand with other indie devs that felt the need to form a symbiotic relationship with the circlejerk (an extremely tiny minority of devoted players).>How are those things similar at all? Why would you not only try to equate universal tools that everyone has access to with a build, but do so after the specific issues with the build were explicitly pointed out?It's a build that still requires dedication and focus to utilize to its fullest extent, whereas those options I listed break the game with absolutely non-existent investment. In the end, (dedicated) PSI being OP was a non-issue since it was its own thing entirely.Funny how TM hybrids (which are almost entirely unaffected by this nerf) are still the most central builds in the game.>Faggotry is the obvious answer, but I'm not going to draw out the Underrail-specific side of this when there are more appropriate paces to screech about this.I'm not interested in rambling about Underrail either, but its disingenuous to say its not a perfectly comparable situation.
>>48645868If you have the golden knight I just have her carry at least one ekehalt shrine and some capture balls for little girls, those make it easy to get a good amount of weight on and off whenever you want. If you don't have her, but you have a pet with weightlifting leveld (due to it's job/hobby being excercise or chores) you could have them carry granite stones I guess. The more encumbered you get, the more weightlifting xp you get, so if you're in your base it's best to be "Burdened!", and if your using the gallows you can also make yourself squashed without dying as long as you're on the gallows (so the damage from squashing doesn't kill you, you can also level swimming from that too, just be careful when the beatings stop to drop all your shit on the tile you're in and move outside a tile that is considered swimming tile because you could instantly die)
>>48646210Level 2 hearthstoneDelegated farming policy
>>48646153Is the barrel shared? have you enabled the delegated farming policy? If it's mushroom, then it will need a week or two to harvest with delegated unlike manual harvesting. Farmer only help to give you more fertility, auto farming only need the delegated policy and in range of farm sign.
Itzpalt worshipers are my eternal enemy and I have had enough of them. It's so late to be doing this at level 50+ but I'm getting a new inquisitor pet to fuck them up, I will not suffer 30+ lightning resistance anymore.It's going to take so fucking long to train this bitch up, any tips to go faster?
>>48646276>>48646289>Level 2 hearthstoneCheck>Delegated farming policycheck>Is the barrel shared?No, thank you very much anon>If it's mushroom, then it will need a week or two to harvest with delegated unlike manual harvesting.daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn, this sucks, what would you suggest to farm instead
Does furniture store policy stack with general store policy?
>>48646306For money? berries. There's also honey farming with beehive and flowers, but i can't be bothered to process the honey so i'm selling raw berries instead.
>>48646349No, assuming you're trying to sell furniture.
>>48645751can't believe i forgot about making bandages with that stuff, how strong is the lvl 10 stuff?
What's the recommended size for a killbox assuming I won't expand my map?
If I make my house have no roof, will it still be a house?
>>48646196>mfw
>>48646305(me)I just gave my new pet 3 spiral king milks +45 and it got 135 feat points and some substantial attribute gains. I thought super milks got nerfed or something(I just freshly acquired them), a bigass endurance gene should keep my new pet alive now though, so that's nice I suppose.
Oi! This isn't funny! Why are strong enemies like this spawning on my doorstep?!?!
>>48646754Tried baiting him to Fiama and Ash, and for some reason the fucker kept hitting me even though they were doing much more damage to him. Holy shit, one hit from him took more than half of my life.
>>48646767Just boomerang him into teammates lol
>>48646770Well, I tried. My little girl died in two hits while I was running away (tired) so he was chasing me faster than I was running away.Also, why did my character got himself furious and I lost karma? Is it because she pegged me while drunk?
>>48646808Also, does Fiama carry some STD or something?
>>48646306>>48646153Thank you anons, it worked, i now have free shrooms.Another question, my small girl is lumberjack, i made sign for her and planted some trees. Will it work without Policy? Also where can i find this logs? Will i get logs that correspond to trees i planted around sign?Thanks a lot bros, leaving my isekai fantasy
Wish there was a toggle or something to see anything that might be consuming fertility, because there's something consuming 2 in my base that I can't find at all, and it's driving me crazy.
>>48647135Have you unlocked buildo mode for your base yet iirc its hearth 5 or 7 and you basically can strip every plant for a small oren fee even outside your current borders
>>48646880lumberjack is basically 90% unimplemented, if the sign's on your property somewhere then lumberjack residents (not party members) will generate logs from thin air and put them in a shared containerit ought to be more like you envision it, but noa's letting himself be mindfucked by a tranny cabal into wasting all his dev time on retarded nonsense, so it'll probably remain unimplemented indefinitely
>>48647248You don't need hearthstone lvl6 or 7 for thatLoytel sells the build board and you can chop and mine shit with it at level 3
Ehekatl's stupid big boobies
So, what can I do with butchering? Something that won't get patched like tent farming?
>>48647572butcher unique npcs like Corgon for marbled meat2 months between respawnsplus you need high anatomy
>>48647614Are you trying to get me to caniballmaxxbecause there are only 2 unique non human NPC's
>>48647632nuh uhget some good livestock like fairies or ancient crabs then start butchering them once you have a stable supply of fertilized eggs
>>48646097....just change your strategy back to "don't automatically grab fish"?!?!
wtf... did noa stealth nerf taming or something?Not getting marbled meats anymore out of my slaughters, at 114 anatomy 52 taming with equips...
I'm just going to not pay it.
>https://rentry.co/7tkxqw3iIf the rentry anon is here, could you list all the extensions you are using? because using automatic1111 webui cannot correctly take the metadata from the images (but comfyUI can)
>>48647877Try clip skip 2
>>48647929stillll sameoh well, i'll just use coomfy
What happens if I use an cursed scroll?
>>48647877I use a fresh reForge install with no adjustments. I believe the vpred version of checkpoints have some dependency that reForge has built in but I dunno the details. Supposedly other versions of the same checkpoint will work on a11 but reForge has dramatically improved performance too.
>>48647877retarded anon from earlier, what the hell do i rename those catbox files to to make the extract properly, I messed around with it for like an hour but apparently I'm more retarded than I thought.Side no AI bros, i found this, it seems pretty cool https://civitai.com/models/1084875/pixel-art-sprite-elin-style-illustriousxl-noob-lora
>>48648135Make a fragmented zip with 7zip or whatever you are using and rename the downloads to whatever it makes. IT needs to have .part1 at the end.
>>48638984is this about melee specifically
>>48648135rename files like pic related (make sure filetypes aren't hidden), smaller one is 002, and open with 7zip. install 7zip if you dont have it.that other lora was made by an (no longer) anon from /v/ at my request. I was asking around several boards before I settled on the one I use now. it looks nice, I think it has better color/palette then the other one, but I couldn't get it to consistently generate at the right size, they're too big. with some more experimentation/retraining, it could be the defacto model.
>>48648197huh, really weird, thats what I was doing but I didn't have 7zip, I used winrar, and it just wouldn't work.Installed 7zip and was able to work, I guess I'm not as retarded as I originally thought. just used the wrong program
Is this worth giving to anyone? Fast learner + heavy eater seems a good combo?
>>48639850Kinda have to choose your town >MusicPalmian>Gathering Yowyn>Fighting Aqui TeolaMost of those are old knowledge but Aqui Teola is a new addition
Hmm.... just dicking around and made asuna, i think its pretty fine for slop? i dunno, I'll dick around some more.
>>48646819Fucking kek. Anon, you can only imagine what Fiama has spread her legs for. A better question is what Fiama HASN'T let plow her Doomed ether-diseased hellhole.
>>48648558maybe if you turned off those god damn filters we could give you an actual opinion. try dotting the eye with a white pixel like the imouto has. inpainting also works pretty well with it. copy pasting misc details from various gens is viable since the pixels have clean divisions you don't have to worry about blending pieces together, one of mine had a good arm/hand so I just chopped that off and put it on the final result.
>>48648600filters? Forgive me anon, I didn't know you could even do filters in this game? I just screen snipped my game. I noticed a few things so i fixed a bit, did a bit more work on the eye.
>>48648637>filters?looks fine. I recommend a slightly more distinct outline on the hair
The first thing you should do when you open ANY GAME is to check graphics settings.
>>48648676also map zoom will fuck sprites if it's not 100% or 200%
>>48648664>dead fish eyes
>>48645469I'd like for better equipment variety to be a thing.>bring a hammer to smash mechanical enemies and ko them>use a spear to run through two enemies at once>channel berserker rage through your battle axe and bisect a spiral kingI'm spitballing but the thing I like about Magic is that it's very fun in the sense that you get a set of tools and can apply them as you see fit in the situation at hand. The other fighting forms could use more variety.
everyone keeps calling me scum everywhere i go and throwing stone at me and i have no idea what i did wrong
>>48648826Apply gun.
>>48648826You're a bad person who's done bad things, aren't you, Anon? I think you know what you've done wrong. Complete quests from quest boards or buy Indulgences at festivals and people will stop throwing rocks at you.
>>48648826scum
>-100 Karma>Enemy of All Living Things + Hunger for Slaughter>Cannibalism>Gourmet 2All is good and fine with the world.
>>48648826you're viewed as a subhuman in civilized areas if your karma go into negative but not negative enough to kill you outright, conversely derphy niggers will throw rocks at you if your karma is high enough.
Is melilith worth getting? Im playing a wizard and i have the itzpalt pet, and it seems like melilith wouldnt add much to the party. Miasma doesnt do much against bosses with huge hp pools and summon undead younger sister doesnt seem very useful.
>>48649200Im hosting her for the free resurrections.
>>48649200She's a free resident and being unique doesn't count towards the cap.
Why have my taxes almost doubled from 2.3k to 4.2k when fuck all has changed about the base? I wish it was broken down.
>>48649786You pay taxes for your character, not your lands. It's your basic tax that goes up yearly + fame tax based on your character's fame. No other factors affect it (beyond any voluntary extra you ask to pay).
>>48649786Unless you mean the taxes your residents pay to you. There the easy answer is that your land skills have gone up.
>>48649835Fuck. Do I need fame for anything? Can I get rid of it? Taxes are theft and I loathe them so bad. I tried passing the cost onto my freeloading asshole residents but only got like 6 orens from resident tax wtf.
>>48649876You can sell your fame. All lowering your fame does is give you low level Nefias and quests. The only content that is 'Fame locked' is probably the Battlefield quests and possibly the Void as well? I've never tried entering the Void with low fame despite having the license, so I have no idea.
>>48645433They never seem to stop fearing it. If you corner them then they cannot run very far though. And they only seem to go hostile at a low rate and never when they show a green heart.
>>48649786You can find a simple breakdown of it somewhere, I think on one of the boards. It tells you the base/fame/property values but does not go into any more detail.
>>48649876You don't actually have to pay taxes. There is no penalty for not paying them except for a little karma penalty.
>>48648387no
>go to ruin>get ruinedpoetry
time to finally make an automated blueberry farm, do i just make a bunch of for sale labelled shared barrels and no ship box or is there another strat i dont know about?
So, why aren't paties also considered head gear? Makes much more sense than them being an instrument
>Mifu NPCs also have Fox WardIs it just an on/off toggle, or does Mifu PC + 8 Mifu pets lead to absurd buffs and debuffs?
Does anyone know how to make a NPC use a different sprite? E.G. I want to change the exile pet to use a different sprite.
>>48651908Esc->tool->Texture Viewer->click exile, make replacement, edit/overwrite the generated PNG.If you want to replace 1 unique monster instead of a whole species you'll need the Texture Expand mod and some finangling with conditionals such as portrait
>>48647299Thank you anon, so i assume logs will be random and wont correspond to trees i planted.So no way to farm expensive logs.This fucking blows, yo
>you can gift human flesh to NPCs and watch them eat itYou mad? It was just a prank bro.
>>48652459i think planting trees in a farming area will get you +quality logs, it worked for me
>>48646392It heals about 3x more per tick, and lasts twice as long. Seems worth the trouble to kettle dupe this stuff
>>48651871Upon testing, it seems Fox Ward is only considered if the player has it, mifu pets have no effect.
>>48652476
>pirate game>cant download mods because steam workshop is locked and nexus is more barren than Kumiromi's boy pussyWoe is me
>>48653459just buy it anonmore money means more elin
