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What are platforming games called in japanese?
>>48760168横スクロールアクションゲーム for 2d3dアクション for 3d
koto is one of those words that is so basic and completely easy to understand when reading or listeningBut using it yourself seems so unnatural
>>48760227a surface level understanding of the language is obviously easier to attain than the full understanding and 慣れ needed to naturally output
>>48760204action games? that's pretty vague. What about stuff like "platforming section" or the act of platforming?
>>48760168same as english プラットフォーム・ゲーム
what's even the point of the jlptjust talk japanese to the person you're trying to impress
i love yamada
>>48760323some jobs and education programs have it as a strict requirement not only that it also can help your application get noticed but beyond that yeah none of the jobs ive had in japan really knew what it was or cared
>>48760323>english subsfor u? no point lol
>>48760349do you really think i make my own screenshots
>>48760296I see. So platforming section would be something like プラットフォームセクション right? What about doing platforming?
>>48760110neyo ? neyo ??
急ぐdo u guys even remember it
isongu?
kyuugu
>>48760349hi unko it's nora!!have you been watching my .hack streams?!
>>48760375ああ
>>48760283They usually say アクション and only occasionally say プラットホーム when trying to be specific
>>48760355why would you post someone elses english subbed screenshots? lmfao>>48760359>So platforming section would be something like プラットフォームセクション right?i dont see why not though youd probably refer to those parts as a プラットフォーミング要素>What about doing platformingジャンプする would be the preferred term for the act itself but the actual mechanic is called プラットフォーミング>>48760418hi nora! ive been a little busy taking care of my wife so i havent had time to watch but really happy that youre making great progress with the gamekeep it up lil sis!
why are you learning japanese? for me its this phenotype
put your trip back on faggot
>>48760553who says im learning japanese?
nora here, another milestonejust finished my last pokemon red card. here's a side by side comparison of my before/after for anki cards at the time of me finishing pokemon red, to nowlook at all this progress!!
>>48760570then why are you here?
>>48760571i'm worried, this means metal gear solid is coming soon.... (涙）why did i mine metal gear solid...why....when will i ever use those words?!
>>48760583its called the daily japanese thread not the daily learn japanese thread lil loser
>>48760590what do you mean, didn't you play metal gear solid?
>>48760592so you are japanese? or have you never learned anything? or is there nothing left for you to learn?
>>48760595>didn't you play metal gear solid?i beat mgs1 in japanese.those words are coming soon...lots of kanji that talks about american politics...stuff i'll never actually need outside of playing the game.
>>48760600man you write like a freaking esl fakeshittake some english lessons lmao
>double ricehttps://youtu.be/RhTsVbrlKIU
>>48760603if you like stuff like metal gear solid you have a use for them. for example, you played metal gear solid
>>48760611not clicking sorry
>>48760617it'll help if i play more mgs games surefor now, the next series of cards coming to my anki are from ocarina of time, that was the game i played after pokemon red.i don't remember the japanese in ocarina being too challenging, but we'll see
>>48760603i also recently played mgs in japanese and i would recommend you dont do those cards atmi saw you hover 限界 on stream and 不足 the other dayyou have more important things to learn first
noras learning the language faster than fakeshit lol
>>48760631my sequence of games, iirc, was..>pokemon red>ocarina of time>ib>metal gear solid>sailor moon>megaman x>ff7 midgar>ff7 disc 1next up is .hack//gu vol.1
>>48760411noooo....
>>48760664is this your first time playing a .hack game?
>>48760744no i got through most of .hack in english when i was a kid in 2006 almost twenty years ago, but never finished them. i liked gu
>>48760780ahhh the memoriesskeith is still one of the best bosses in rpg history imo
spent a few hours yesterday playing league so i think ill double the new words i learn today to make up for my fooling aroundwas tired at noon and tried to take a nap so i could study more efficiently and its 7pm no its over
>>48761089do you actually clock how many hours you study? Like do you have a spreadsheet or something for daily hours and cumulative time spent learning? Then what do you consider learning? does reading VN slop count? does untranslated anime count?
>>48761166sort of. i just have been keep an awareness of the hours in my head but dont keep a record. i just count anything untranslated becuase my reading level is low
>>48760110I don`t normally like asking questions, but I'm kind of stuck and couldn't find any answers online.A:激務続きの諸君らには丁度良い骨体めになるだろう。B:分かりました。せいぜい骨体めをさせて頂きます。I'm somewhat confused about 骨体め and even more about the め in it. The context is A giving a mission to B, his subordinate, and his team. Both characters respect each other and are friends despite the difference in rank.If anyone could give any insight, I would greatly appreciate.
井上チャンピオンの試合があると日本の士気があがるなあ
>>48761248are you sure it's not 骨休め?>>48761089stop playing moba could save you at least one hour per day to do anything more helpful
>>48761263>骨休めI'm a retard. Thank you, anon. Well, see you guys in 3 years again.
>>48761263>stop playing moba could save you at least one hour per day to do anything more helpfulits what my girlfriend likes to do in the evenings together.
Does anime with jap subs count as listening practice?
how hard is this to read in jp
>>48761397Give it a shot and find out.
>>48761397It's easy by novel standards but it will still be hard if it's your first novel. . Not the yuzuge I would recommend personally either but a lot of people adore it so you should try it.
>七光り>おばあちゃんの七光りで どこ行っても特別扱いなのも嫌だし>benefiting from the influence of a master or parentdoes this mean benefitting from the influence they have on you directly or benefitting from the influence they wield in the world (i.e. providing connections and opportunities)?
>>48761450The latter, but not because of them pulling the strings for you, but because strangers from their own end give you special treatment because of who your family is. The sort of thing that made the creator of Beastars hide the fact that she was Baki man's daughter
>>48761470tyty
>>48761358yup
>>48761441What are the good yuzuge the only one I tried was dracuriot but dropped it years ago
>>48761564literally noneits all slop for retarded manchildren
>>48761564For me the 3 after sanoba are a hat trick but if you dropped Dracuriot there's a good chance you wouldn't like them>>48761636Not impressed
>>48761289break up with your girlfriend to even have more time to read!
>>48761651not impressed by what? lmfao all that slop seems to be frying your lil brain anon
Why is this guy here? Just to annoy us?
they played us like a damn shamisen!
>>48761129>netflix slopi wouldnt touch this with a pitchfork
good morning everyponynew N4 listening comprehension exercise just droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RVSwVAQIvM
>>48762057>IHfake japanese
>>48762057yoooo this goes hard on mute
>>48754764if you don't have someone tutoring you the best way to get a good accent is in addition to listening for thousands of hours to study phonology of the language and drill the difficult parts until the conscious knowledge becomes subconsciously used in speechit's not really a fun or intuitive process because it requires you to actively work against what your brain and mouth have optimized for and unless you really need a good accent probably not worth it
>>48761397compelling content that you have an active interest in is always easier than easy boring content
>>48762258MAJINAI KAMAJIRU MAJIRU?
ayoooooo qm is here katite? katite ??
lil q should stream muramasa to redeem himself
>>48762339yeah okay but what if he said majinau WHAT IF HE SAID MAJINAU ASSHOLE???
>>48762335>compelling contentgoonslop ftw
>>48762357yh but im not gonna allow him to cope this time tho
>>48762339>>48762345lol bros still can't get over a stream from 5 years ago
>>48762381theyre trash ignore em
bro thats on top 3 djt hall of fame of epic fails what u mean get over it
>>48762400it's fine i enjoy the attention>>48762412must not be a lot of epic fails if top 3 is something i looked up and made sure i got correctly lol
there was no ga
https://files.catbox.moe/2vxu8v.mp4
>>48762421yep took me time to find the error here again, どころか is so common only way you're reading ga instead of ka here is if you're reading symbol for symbol without your brain making the necessary work for fluent reading
>>48762432https://streamvi.com/watch/1812665307419252
>>48762432like i said before, the window where i am stuck on it and question what it could it be is the moment i look it up in my hook window and i move on when i go 'oh right' after hovering itit wasn't a very viewer oriented stream because i'm not a streamer but i understand i need to show the hook window so people see what my process is also this clip is 5 years old lmfao
>>48762441where's the mistake?
>cope >cope >cope
5 years later and people still need to nip at qms ankles out of jealousymeanwhile almost all of you cant even write the joyo from memory>>48762448lil bro...
>>48762452that's your voice in that streamable right, where was the mistake?
>>48762432lmfaooo classic
>>48762457who told you that?
>>48762472your unko right? that's his voice
>>48762479thats bongta
>>48762486pretty sure i'd recognize unko's voice after all these years
>>48762486>>48762489also bongta streamed once and sounded very different
>>48762489clearly not lol
>>48762442lil bro you thought 呪い was 交じない or some shit lmfao king dekinai
>>48762494are you just trying to mess with me lol?
i dont know why i even humor fakeshit if hes just gonna play dumb every single day
>>48762499and why is that such a big deal to you? as a Japanese learner you'll forget and misread things all the time, but at least i look things up when i'm not sure like i did in the clipbesides its like 2 years after i started learning japanese why would anyone expect perfection, show me your 7 hour nonstop clannad reading stream without any mistakes
unko punching the air rn
nah your posts are just too obviousi normally try to play along but the whole point out your own mistakes thing was too much lol
https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S40492211#p40499193this was a bunko vocaroo from 2022 sounds exactly like the voice in the clip >>48762441tell me im not crazy
>>48762531sorry fakeshit but you are indeed crazy
now i just need to find the bongta stream
should be easy given that you streamed it lol
only found this in the archive but the vid is gonehttps://kick.com/bongtaanyone have it archived?
股間? 股間?
>>48761397https://jpdb.io/visual-novel-difficulty-list?q=sanoba#areally easy looks like
>>48762577yh i remember that steam. jamel was sucking this guys balls like crazy even when he fucked up a lot of words
>>48762507lol you bragged about being n1 in 2019 and reading muramasa in early 2020. then you stream clannad later in the year and you cant even read beginner shit lmao
>>48762615yeah and i did reach n1 level at that pointwhat do you think n1 level is exactly? never having to look anything up or misreading anything?
>>48762531im bunkotheres been a guy here for the past 7 months posting every day pretending to be me making dozens of posts every day including fan fiction about my marriageim not making this up its honestly one of the most pathetic things ive seen online
i'm bunkoyou guys should stop pretending to be me
>>48762630>what do you think n1 level is exactly?better than whatever this noob shit level is lmaohttps://youtu.be/gewVqZGpwQA?t=78the stream proved all you did was get good at some n1 kanji reading quiz LOL
>>48762681if anything it proves that your way of rating someone (single clips where someone got stuck or misread something from a multi hour reading stream) isn't a very accurate way of judging someones japanese knowledgemost of this thread couldn't read two lines fluently, the most valiant attempt was by jamal with the auto furigana who reads 私の方 as わたしのかた and just keeps going like nothing happened
>>48762731nta but true i think the average djter would do similar or worse including you rndoesnt make it better
>>48762731it proves you know jack shit
>>48762756if i streamed rn i would read more fluently in general but i imagine i would be worse at difficult kanji because i haven't done anki in a few years and that's the stuff you forget firstthe real question is why it matters at all how i would do when my general level is that i can pick up any japanese otaku content im interested in and enjoy it on the same or almost the same level as a native without any lookups, some of you guys are just weird in the head regarding your expectations of how good someone should be or will realistically become, especially someone like me who has never even been to japan
>>48762783do you feel like your studying was worth the time investment?
>>48762798oh definitely, being able to just watch any anime and actually getting what they say without trannylations twisting everything around is a great experience, and the same applies to video games, manga, LNs, you just know you are getting the authentic experiencei've had less time recently to dedicate to enjoyment of such content but i do something every day like watch an episode of anime or read a bit of light novel/manga on my phone and when a new game comes out i'm interested from japan it's the full experience so yeah it was definitely worth it for mealso just consider that i didn't study that much, most of my studying was enjoying content and just making cards while enjoying that content
you would think he studied how to be a dekinai
im also bunko (real)
>>48762778yh this dunning kruger got humbled and has been coping for 5 years now
>>48762850to be honest i wouldnt even question if a native english speaker wrote that
lol wtf
>>48762824okay. thanks. that's just my goals for japanese too so your perspective is interesting to hear.
wish pisscord cocksuckers roped
>>48762928>CV.井澤んなぁ〜 ><
>>48762783yeah i think thats pretty based and i still think you are probably better than the vast majority of posters by far
>>48763045stfu
>>48763049post a vocaroo and do better than he did or better yet streamif you dont do either i have 0 reason to believe you could
dont care
>>48763076doesnt change the facts but good for you
just stfu
>>48763097this what you look like in my mind
>>48763076
>>48763117>16 second replycope
retard
今日の日本語>糺す
n6
>>48763227the lowest level is n5
>>48763277gonna have to second this statement
>>48762928>japaneseasmr.com
>>48762442rofl you're a fatass loser who doesn't know japanese 5 years later. didn't take the kanken like he boasted about either. kys
青ao真っ青massaoow i self impaled
>>48763419well i know more japanese than youand i know enough to have reached the goal i set for myself
>>48763419funny but true
>>48763419gonna need a vocaroo before i read any more of your anklebiting
>>48762614found some bongta vocaroos in the archiveshttps://vocaroo.com/1cddOtrVVRnhhttps://vocaroo.com/15ciXh0w0pXtmany more under his trip !!IRE3KTJADN0 but most are in english, but that is his voice and its much different to unkos voice>>48762644i see, he reminds me of the overly argumentative anon who would ask simple questions about japanese then once he got an answer would gaslight you for 10 posts that your answer is wrong
>>48763420赤aka真っ赤massaka
>>48763543why are you replying to yourself?
What does んだが do in the first panel?
>>48763637https://www.tofugu.com/japanese-grammar/explanatory-nda-ndesu-noda-nodesu/this plus gahttps://www.tofugu.com/japanese-grammar/conjunctive-particle-ga-kedo/
>>48763637adds a feeling of pity and implies the speaker has more to say on the subject
>>48763599黒kuro真っ黒makkuro
the reason its まっさお is because まっあお wouldnt work
> switch to fsrs> reviews are actually going down everydayWhat is this black magic?
Why are you learning Japanese?
>>48763871it's called ngmi
>>48763910エロマンガ先生やったぜ！
just finished nekoparait was fucking boringare there any good vns out there or are they just not for me?
where to buy japanese physical print media?i'd love to have kinokuniya service in my country but we don't.is amazon the best place?
do you guys frequent any 5ch or any other standalone boards?i only sometimes read nan-j and holoneet
>>48764028i ordered second hand books off suruga-ya might not be the best place though it was the only site that had an old LN i was looking for
>>48763910who says im learning japanese?
>>48764145I did >:3
filtered
>>48764282bongta...
>>48764323I believe you're learning Japanese! ;3
how goes the transition bonglard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfFbIw4MQdgnice listening
Went to bed feeling like I’m forgetting somethingIt’s over….
>>48764282>>48764332nah he actually isnt... for once he is telling the truthhes copy pasting questions asked here into llms and paraphrases the responses to act like he knows japanese
>>48764685time to uninstall anki and start learning japanese for real
>>48764910embarrassing
>>48764935>make remark about how someone is doing something wrong and ngmi>never say what the problem is or what a better method isClassic DJT
god i love anime
i hate you and anime
hate is a strong word
ahem, can I dislike you and anime? :3
fine
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>>48763910you already posted my reason
Isn't yomininja open source? Can someone just fork it and fix google lens already? I heard you can fix it just by changing the user agent.
>>48766260building seems annoying
im sure it is for you
>>48765075source? looks nicely animatedbtw, anyone have subs for the latest solo solo leveling ep?
sometimes building is harder than programming figures a midwit like qm wouldnt be able to do it
>>48766339>>48766416i could do it no problem
also seems the github code is outdateddude is shipping newer versions on his patreonyou hate to see it
it weekend bros, where's the nora stream?
>>48766392beheneko
>>48766765oh, i read the manga a bit a long time agoit's shit
YEあｈ YEあｈ ひざNiあざ Ｙｏｏｏｏ
is 裏面 りめん or うらめん why is the dictionary saying different things
りめん is correct and the counterpart 表面 ひょうめんbut many people say うらめん never heard anyone say おもてめん though
just watched this. absolute kino of the highest order. i can't believe how many kinos have been made in japan between 1990 and 2010, not just 1950-1980
>>48767146did they use this songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYC71PAuIKE
>>48767153yea, the film is about them practising it for the 文化祭 after one of their band mates has to drop out cause of an injured hand.
>>48767161is it like k-on?
>>48767179no, it's not moe, it's pretty grounded SoL with normal acting, low stakes and a very comfy atmosphere that'll make you wish you'd been a jp high school student.
>>48767192ywnbajk
>>48767198i kno
ywnb in a jk
that's a js
>>48767225the sisters arcs were so hot
best part of learning japanese is when you start to get cocky and then stray outside your comfort zone and instantly get hit by the train of dekinaithe train never stops coming. it's always just around the bend
yosh
>>48767245indeed
>>48767253first time? I've stopped being cocky, I always expect the full frontal before turning the corner.
also tsuki
fell asleep listening to the nekomonogatari audiobook and woke up in the middle of this, actually scared me
>>48764910kek theres no llm on the world that can match my understanding
>>48767292キノ
>>48767292クソ
can you read 木陰
kokage
>>48767318could u?
>>48767323yeah, it was written in hiragana
>>48767360unironically worst girl, she just got lucky for confessing first
>>48767345kek
the loli returnsi can't wait for the pokemon red cards to be fully compelte (1 year reps). i have mastered that game in japanese!!
>>48761397Not the anon who originally asked about this but am I correct in understanding that most/all Yuzuge are roughly the same difficulty to read or are any known as being particularly easier/harder than the rest?
>>48767401How far are you in your mining?
WHY ISN'T YOUTUBE TRANSLATING JAPANESE COMMENTS FOR ME.FUCK I CAN'T PRETEND TO BE JAPANESE ANYMORE
OOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>48767412see: >>48106760my next milestone is 3,598 cardsi just hit the pokemon red milestone of 1,580 cards. next up is all the cards i have mined from ocarina of time. at the end of all this is 4,500 words with recall and recognition...it will be mine.
>>48767401>lolilil bro...
>>48767450she calls me oniichan. she's a loli
>>48767461oniichan isnt gender specific
>>48767469what are you saying?
>>48767479That particular tripfag is extremely retarded and is better off filtered and ignored
>>48767479that aint a loli chief
>>48767487are you telling me...she's a shota?!
>>48767492yuuuup
>>48767508why does shota-kun ruin everything?!i refuse to believe it
kill me
>>48767253why would you get discouraged by realizing how much more there is to learn
sexo
how do i use なんか and なんて fluently like pic related? is it a sentence enhancer?
https://x.com/wasavisawa/status/1883133057017975132
>>48767948absolutely peak sentence enhancer language
>>48767948first, here's my attempt at translating the sentence:>Oi, is it the case that you unreasonably bought those items?here, nanka is hard to translate, but i can feel what it means
took a peak at ocarina of time in japanese again to see how far i've progressed...i can understand it. almost everything. these are the cards i'm mining now so here we go!
>>48767973clearly not if you think hes asking a question that nanka combined with the murisite is expressing admonition towards the action
kek
>>48768110>clearly not if you think hes asking a questionhe is asking a question. it's about the koto. i have my own definition for what koto means that i'm following and it makes everything make sense about it to me...he wants to know if the koto being questioned is correct. you can derive "is it the case that X" for X koto here.what is the koto in question?'did you unreasonably buy those items' is marked by koto, and that koto is marked by nanka
>>48768105立派になったもんだのぅ(*´ω`*)ｼﾐｼﾞﾐ…
>>48768127he is definitely not asking a question the nanka is used to show scorn towards the topic ie "doing something like that"and the koto here is just nominalizing the actiondont give me your retard logic backtalk when you clearly dont understand the grammar
yosh, otsukaresama
>>48768143>"doing something like that"that's a different koto. that's what he's asking about. he wants to know if his deduction was wrong and the koto he thought it was...i.e. unreasonably buying his guild shop items...was incorrect.i'm intentionally not learning the japanese grammar using english words/english logic. i'm a devout cure dolly follower. i will understand japanese grammar in japanese.
>When Nora's powerlevel exceeds djt'sWe will need >>48768136 you to chime in and pick a side
>>48767948these aesthetics are incredibly gay
t. logh fan
>>48768165holy shit you dont understand the first thing about japanese grammar and you thinking youre understanding it like a native is causing you to completely misunderstand what hes sayinga different koto? A DIFFERENT KOTO? BITCH I WAS TELLING YOU WHAT NANKA WAS DOINGKOTO TURNS THE FUCKING VERB INTO A NOUNNANKA EXPRESSES A NEGATIVE FEELINGHES TRYING TO SAY "YOU DIDNT HAVE TO GO OUT OF YOUR WAY AND BUY THAT"
just take the L lil tripcuck, stop embarassing yourself any further
>>48768196im so mad right now i cant even tell you
>>48768179you can learn to listen if you play games with voices, sirankedo :3
>>48768191>KOTO TURNS THE FUCKING VERB INTO A NOUNboop..incorrect. koto marks an experience. When people say -koto to mean they did something at one time... 'sono koto ga aru nda' -i did that before.>BUT THATS A DIFFERENT GRAMMAR PATTERNit's Japanese. koto means the same thing in every utterance it's possibly said in. Cure dolly would argue that.So how do we stretch -sono koto ga aru nda' to mean 'muri shite kau koto nanka'. Again, koto means the same exact thing in every utterance it's possibly said in...it's the same koto. he's asking if the koto was correct. You aren't going to break down this wall. I'm defying Genki at this point.
The tripcuck is having a meltdown like a true cuckold
>>48768220youre defying all logic at this point too kek
wtf i like nora now
Nora's done it. She's a perfect candidate for Tobira. She's at the point where she wants to acquire japanese grammar in japanese. It only took her a year.
im sorry djti tried to help the schizo but her insanity was too strong
>>48768228you like hard-working Nora too ;3
>>48768220>>48768191ok so basically “koto” is this weird black hole in grammar that sucks up your verb and spits it out as some vaguely abstract concept, and “nanka” is like a passive-aggressive scoff that makes you sound annoyed without even trying. if you think you've got them figured out, sorry—you still don't know japanese. no one does.
おはようおにいちゃん世界におはよう
>>48768248no when こと follows a verb adjective or phrase it nominalizes itit really is that simple
>>48768242our relationship deviates at this point...i'll just tell you i was like this at the beginning. I wanted to be accepted by Japan, and do everything in accordinance with Japan. Religion, Society, Language, everything Japanese. This stems back to when i first started learning japanese years ago...not this current attempt. I would argue 'the japanese sounds have meaning, and mean the same thing in every situation'. I could feel it, but I couldn't prove it.well, years passed and i dropped out of university which marks my re-entry to /djt/ a year ago, and i started with Genki. I was hoping I could learn the language in English then get rid of the English later and make it Japanese.But now i'm at the old (mistake) of assuming I know the japanese meaning of koto. This brings us to our situation here.I do not think a native japanese person would say -koto turns a thing into a noun. That 'noun' thing is an english construction after all.Unko, i hate to say it, but you're religiously bound to the english language, maybe it's something you aren't allowed to understand. That there's other systems in foreign language than the english one.
きょうのにほんフリーレン、エルダ、マルシル、マリーとエルフが続いている設定がしっかりしていて著作権が大丈夫だからお話に採用されやすいのかもしれないエルフ雄が出てきたのはフリーレンだけだけど
>>48768290language and concepts have objective meaning lil broi know that you might think "nouns" are some kind of specially invented construct designed by english speakers to keep you from learning the japanese language but i promise you theyre not lol
>>48768318>language and concepts have objective meaninglmao. are you literally arguing this?We can't even PROVE why Japanese words mean X, becuase 'X' literally exists outside of japanese written language, and is exclusive to 'Old Japanese'. Objectivity requires proof. Since Japanese was originally a spoken language only, the 'origins' of the japanese kotoba remain a mystery today. It's the matter of opinion.Did you read the Kojiki?
>>48768362>koto means 'noun'>then what does kotoba mean?unko's mind:
>>48768276well こと is semantically complex like 授業中は静かにすること signalizes an order or strong suggestion and there's many more things it can mean it's one of those things you can look in the dictionary for and see 20 different things but yeah at least one of those meanings is doesn't mean shit and it's just grammar
>>48768382kek
シチューはコトコト煮込むこと！ ( ｰ`дｰ´)ﾄﾞｩﾕｧﾝﾀﾞｽﾀﾝ?
>>48768362ok nora i guess when everyone says something you can interpret it however you wanti choose to interpret your post as you admitting youre a mentally ill tranny freak since language is subjective>>48768382never said that>>48768383i think youre missing the point lil quizzler
>>48768318well we should still be aware that all that grammar stuff is essentially just models someone made up and they apply some more some less to different languages and yeah we can definitely observe things in japanese which describing them as nouns and verbs makes sense but anything more complex and it's essentially all interpretability and arbitrary for example depending on your school of grammar you could say that 食べられる is one verb with some conjugation which would be a very western way of looking at it, another thing you could say is it's tabe and rareru is actually it's own verb that attaches to the base form of other verbs and what about pronouns? we see pronouns exist in English sure but in Japanese it's just nouns and we could break these categories even more, going back to the base verb of verbs if we look at something like 読む what is it, is it yomi or is it actually yom because that's the common connection (but you can't even express it in hiragana so japs are lost on this one) and i is actually an independent grammar structureultimately we should remember that linguists are basically full of shit and not really worth paying attention to
>>48768397https://www.tofugu.com/japanese-grammar/koto/FUCK YOU UNKO IT SAYS RIGHT THERE SPECIFICALLY THAT IT MEANS EXPERIENCESEE PIC RELATEDTHE SENTENCE IN QUESTION (the dotHack context) WAS CLEARLY IN PAST TENSE SO IT APPLIES.
gotta wait for lil j's take
>>48768410yes yes yes i understand all the complexities and nuances of classifying japanese grammar in a languistic frameworkbut if you scroll up for a sec youll see nora being a retard and misunderstanding a very simple sentence>>48768415oh boy lil nora you missed the GA ARU part of it you fucking retard
unko is a iku koto ga nai otoko so he doesnt know
>>48768421i know where my foots going to go if you dont stfu
>>48768415let's actually do a thought experiment here if we change this to 日本に行ったことなんか… what could it meanit could basically mean anythingyou could imagine the speaker to say this when he begrudgingly has to admit he never went to japanyou could imagine someone making a big deal out of him going to japan and the speaker being dismissive about itthe possibilities are endless
>>48768421he's iki gao is okawaii koto! >:3
>>48768421you mean itta
i rly didnt
dekinais...dekinais everywhere
>>48768437行くことがない is also correct :3
>>48768432just look that this sentence in pic related here >>48767948now look at noras translation >>48767973and the context in case youd like to be difficult https://youtu.be/jozsclt-8No?t=6479
>>48768449i didn't click it :3
>>48768449i didn't mean to imply the hack sentence was ambiguous at all im just playing around
>>48768455who said i wanted you to click it? lol
>>48768449perhaps a different way to interpret my message is that we should be more lenient with beginners, ultimately it will take hundreds of hours to understand the deep nuances of complex structures like こと and なんか so even though this sentence is obvious to us, to someone with a thousand hours less input it will be puzzling
>>48768459ah okay i figured as muchjust wanted to make sure you knew i wasnt arguing for some kind of regressive or overly simplistic understanding of koto
>we should be more lenient with beginnerstrue true thats why i let your shit slide
>>48768470thanks, ultimately this thread is far better off and more productive if we all treat each other as beginners who are simply prone to mistakes by the nature of being jsls, i might be an advanced beginner while the person having trouble with koto might be an intermediate beginner
yep lol
>>48768466im normally pretty patient with beginners but the know-it-all attitude is what sets me offwhen the meaning of whole sentences is getting changed because "duurrr thats just the way japanese people think about it" then i get a lil indignant
>>48768418>oh boy lil nora you missed the GA ARU part of it you fucking retardno i didn't. they're asking if the koto is there...is the 'experience' of unreasonably buying the items there, or is it something else (the domain of なにか）you can translate なにか as 'or something' here..there's multiple koto's it could be. i still won't budge on my translation.koto ga aru nda doesn't mean "is the thing there?" which your logic suggests.
>>48768482there is no "experience" being referred to in the .hack sentence hes just talking about the act of purchasing something the "experience" part of the koto ga aru expression is coming from that specific constructionkoto ga aru literally suggests "thing A has happened" or "there has been a time when thing A occurred"god youre so frustrating
>>48768482日本に行ったことがあるんだ expresses amazement that someone has actually gone to japanisn't japanese great
nothing more pathetic than seeing noobs rush to to flex at one of the few opportunities they get
>>48768519is that what you call this? feels like im trying to teach helen keller japanese
>>48768506i just checked cure dolly's explanation of 'koto' and she says it means an act.i have to do my anki reps now, only have an hour left. i will defer to cure dolly's explanation here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYlgQaK7lS4
>>48768549i literally just said that
>>48768553this is the first time i'm reading cure dolly's explanation of koto. i'm going to defer to cure dolly. she says it means it refers to an act. for example, the act of going to japan, rather than an experience. So, i'm wrong. If we consider it to mean an act, then yes it should be illogical and ungramattical for nanika to mean 'Is this your act or is there some other act here'? In other words, they're not questioning the unko, and nanka is kind of like a sentence enhancer here.sorry to make you mad unko, i trust cure dolly so i'll not question it.
wish dad- i mean jamal was here to see this
>>48768567you didnt actually make me mad i just like being dramatic lolglad you finally saw the light lil bro
>>48763910to consume all the porns eop would never be able to experience
Real replies only please: Realistically how much study should one do per day / week in order to actually see true results, understanding it’s a long term goal, I’ve seen most people say 2-3 hours is a basic benchmark
results in what
>>48768693i think 3 hours would be an absolute minimum, you'd want do more than if you're serious about getting good at japanese but it's not hard because you're just enjoying compelling content 90% of the time
does anyone have the "fate stay night changed my life" image
>>48768693I only feel I'm learning when it's pass 1 hour mark.From my experience of reading seriously 15 mins a day and still being a reddit level of Japanese I can say 15-min a day is not enough
>>48768693realistically it should be as many free hours as you have in a day
にほんといえば醤油よね海外でもキッコーマンは買えるってきいたことがあるほんとうならすごいねヤマサも手に入りますか？
>>48768105I've never played the games in Japanese. Only tried with the newest Zelda and that's pretty much it. But it was really hard. Especially all the weird pronouns and weird words like miasma. Sometimes I felt like I didn't understand shit.Your picture I understood though. You have the nu endings and the ja ending. Which I guess is supposed to be that he is an old man or tree in this case.
>>48769171Sure but I don’t really have a means of just infinitely consuming stuff in Japanese
>>48768105i dont believe you can actually really understand it at most you are understanding a decent amount of the gist of what is being saidmore than that is clearly impossible at your level but theres nothing wrong with that its still progress
>>48769396what do you mean by this?
>>48769447think he means vocaroo
>>48769458haha gotem!
>>48769458ohhh he doesnt have a means of just infinitely vocarooing stuff in japanese
>>48769353>>48768105>>48769438I tried watching ocarina of time in Japanese now just to see if I could understand it, and I could for the most part except for some rarer words I didn't know. But then the deku tree/goddesses cutscene started and it's suddenly way more difficult with kanji I don't know and the reading speed is insane suddenly. Can Japanese kids actually read this?
>>48769501you mean the gods coming down from the sky one? its definitely way harder than the rest of the game even has 叡智 without furigana (common word but im certain tons of kids couldnt read it at the time) and yea the speed is a bit high
>>48769506When I think about it I probably didn't understand it in English when I was a kid. Really I have no idea what I did and didn't understand. I think I just played it and didn't even care what I understood and didn't if that makes any sense.Also why does Zelda always use words like 悪しき. What even is that? They use these weird speech patterns. Why not use the normal words?
>>48769506i remember struggling with the opening of wind waker as a kid in english
>>48767948in cases like this you have to feel out what should come after the なんか if the sentence was completesimple exampleお兄ちゃんのことなんか (大嫌い)in your sentence its probably 必要ない or 望んでない or something like that
>>48769583of fucking cause an autist like you had a gamecube as a kid lmfao
when adding cards with yomitan, is there a way to trim down how many dictionary entries it uses? i always get like 5 redundant ones. this card has 17 definitions.
>>48769668yeah use {selection-text} and mark the definition you want to add to the card before clicking +there's also {glossary-brief} but i don't like it
>>48769667lil bro had a stroke when writing this lol
pro tip: get an emotional support loli to cheer you up on your commute back home from workthis will help you stay motivated and immerse more
>>48769748oh man thats creepy
japanese is so hard that even my chinese friend gave up
>>48769753it is an unbelievably convoluted language
i think it must be even harder when you know chinese and all the kanji are suddenly read differentlyat least as an eop you start with a blank slate
>米＾-＾米
shame there werent more ds vinnies its the perfect system for them
>>48769764me in the middle>>48769765c-cero bro?
>>48769766vinnies dont have to be 18+ and dokimajo managed to release on the ds
>>48769748naisu, but i already have an emotional support loli tulpa so getting a doll feels weird
>>48769784uh oh crazy alert
>>48769784a tulpa sounds like too much time investment for me
>>48769748>get an emotional support loliwhencefrom
>>48769798it requires round-the-clock psychiatric evaluation
>>48769786
>>48769798maybe but i havent had a flesh-friend in probably a decade or so, so i stood to gain a lot from having a tulpa
>>48769800not sure exactly but the guys on >>48757520 should know
>>48769811黒川健 btw
>>48769844>>48768519
>ctrl+f !!3VCzpXAaV7snothing more pathetic
>>48769866she says it in the video just thought people might want to know the answer
>>48769844>>48769881i see its horizontally flipped
>>48769880you probably post more than me plus im the threads resident expert
nice cope
>>48769893i didnt see you jumping to help nora
>>48769888but you cant even post a single vocaroo so your words have no weight
>>48769899ive posted hundreds tho
>>48769902no you havent those werent yours and thats why you cant post a new one to prove they were
>>48769909those were absolutely mine and the only person who doesnt believe me is youanyway ill post one right now for a wife vocaroo
>>48769915why would you suddenly stop being able to make any
>>48769942idk why cant you make any more wife vocaroos lol
>>48769897i was sleeping lil bro
>>48769962suuure buddy suuure
>>48769952can you not see how asking a woman to record something for an online troll is not worth it
>>48769977yeah i can imagine how awkard that would be considering she doesnt exist
>>48769982so how do you explain my zairyuu card saying im married to a japanese citizen
how easy would japanese be if kanji were not a problem?
>>48770039how do you explain why you blurred out details like the name?
>>48770062a hell of a lot easier than it is now
>>48770071>>48770071>>48770071
>>48770063>just doxx your wife online broare you retarded perhaps?its a wonder he even posted something
>>48770063i didnt blur my whole name and its pretty unique especially considering the timestamp, newspaper and djt written
>>48770074early malicious
>>48770079he already did lil bro>>48770084why blur it at all if youre just gonna post your jlpt test results with it unblurred?
>>48770123i dont see how that invalidates anything
>>48770176it shows that youre hiding details on some of the documents due to them being fake
whats this mf up to now
>stubs
forgot the stubs lil bro
>>48770204that doesnt make sense
>>48770446you blurring it out makes no sense
>>48770240Singlehandedly justifying post-birth abortion up to 40 years
>>48762057>Wipes down delicious tallow left behind>Pours shittiy olive oil in its place to fry the onions and mushrooms inアホか？
>>48772205the olive oil marketing in japan is strong
>>48760110
>>48762783nooo, you are supposed to autisticly do AJATT 8 hours everyday, like our messiah katsumoto or it's not worth it.
>>48774922tbf the khatz output video still btfos anything matt ever made
is it possible to learn 日本語 without ever touching anki?
>>48775358yes but you need to ask djt first
should I just brute force my way through games and books even though I barely know like, 80 words, kanji included?
>>48775442idk do you want to?
>>48775451yeah, just not sure if it would be worth it. for games, it would probably be something simple like pokémon, maybe legends arceus with furigana
>>48775461try it
>>48775442so long as you look up and understand everything i dont see why notbut if youre planning whitenoise everything and expect the language to learn itself then no
>>48775726understanding everything from the start is impossible
>>48775730it is not actuallyliterally every word and piece of grammar is available online
>>48775781you still wont be able to truly understand nuances at all though
>>48775806what actual nuances would be lost? i doubt it would be any more than reading a translation would
>>48775826i remember tons of sentences where i just didnt quite understand the meaning because my understanding of a word or a particle was limitedsure i could have looked at a translation and i did sometimes but that doesnt make you understand it it only tells you how you should have understood it at bestgoing back to those things now i do understand them so i think the idea you should understand everything from the start is dumb and actually hurts learning
>>48775844thats because you didnt bother to actually read and learn what the dictionaries and grammar explanations were trying to sayyou probably roughly skimmed everything acted like you understood
>>48775889well yeah reading grammar is less fun than partly understanding media so i rushed tae kim and started immersing
>>48775905yup and thats why youre wrong in thinking a beginner couldnt understand anythingthe truth was YOU didnt understand anything because YOU didnt study
>>48775936i said everything not anything at least follow the conversation and my point still stands thats its not necessary like you said it isid also like to take this opportunity to yet again point out the lack of vocaroos from you
>>48775945you said "truly understand nuances at all" which would imply most if not all nuance would be lost on the learneralso wheres that wife vocaroo if youre so desperate to hear my voice again?
>>48775968i think its much more understable that i dont want to get my wife on vocaroo than it is than you cant make one
>>48775981shes your wife my dude not the presidentis your wife a famous youtuber or something? lol
>>48775990its not about her being doxxed its about not wanting to tell her about this thread it would honestly be embarrassing
>>48775997just tell her its a discord server for you and your buddies
>>48776038just lie to your wife bro
>>48776062sure i mean you lie about everything else
>>48776077like what
>>48776094coming here for one
