Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkawNew child mechanics guide for Elona+: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NFElona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GXExtra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htmElin EA (use a Steam Emulator like Goldberg): https://gofile.io/d/JiSjhhElin Wiki: https://ylvapedia.wikiElin Player Guide-Compilation: https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Player_GuidesElin Modding resources/code: https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin.Docshttps://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin-DecompiledPrevious Floor: >>50377198
And I just bumped off the old thread so I can't link it to here.
No homo Ashland, buy you looking kinda tasty.
reeeee >>50397020just bake it before it diesss
>>50397015Roran Safari edition!
Yeeks....
>ghosts now get ashbornI wonder if that's specifically the singular mob named ghost, or all ghost-like things like my wisp pet>>50397020wouldn't matter, the hololive threads spammed the catalog again right when you were posting anyway
>>50397020I was really hoping to have one of my posts be in the new OP :(
>>50397281>the last thing you see before you are jumped by a roving band of children and beaten to death for daring to step into their sacred forest
>get jumped by some pudits>murder them>decide to take a break and look around the area and maybe read some magic books before continuing>this bitch pops out of nowhere>she's level 42 and my level 16 adventurer wizard that I hired and my warrior Little Girl run to meet her>ohfucktheyaregonnadie.png>whip out my shotgun that has double shot and start mashing the trigger>Little Girl does a big brain move and steps in front of the wizard to shield her from the angel's arrows>somehow we win>automatically resurrects and joins my partyUhh... What...?
>>50397298Ghost race mobs.
>>50397348special eyth of infidel event, congrats on your archangel waifu
You little slut
>>50397359Is "ghost" really a race and just not a state of being that all races could have?
What am I even supposed to do here.
>>50397493Wield two dragon slayers or something
>>50397493gravity + meteor?
>>50397493catsister has it under control
>>50397493Obviously steal the cat outside of the building and be done with it.
>>50397297WHAT ARE THEY GOOD FOR?ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!
>>50397618>yeeks with balaclvas and shotguns
>>50397618
Do you even lift, *woof*?
>>50397873
fairy nerf?
I've never seen this shit trigger miasma. Is the chance very low? Or should I dual-wield these?
>>50399039Forgot pic like a retard.
>>50399047some anon said last thread that it happens when you get hit
>>50399016Fairy adjustment for new feat requirements.You wasn't able to train heavy armor as a fairy and so can't learn heavy cast that now requires heavy armor skill.That feat reduced casting penalty from being dimmed or wearing a shield, so it was useful even in light armor. Now fairy can train heavy armor with just 7.5s gear instead of 30s and use the feat.
>>50399098oh, heavy as in heavy armor and not too heavy to wear, my bad
When will there be a Dog Person Feat or World Law, where instead of [Cats] being a terrible thing you inflict undeserved violence upon and eat, it's [Dogs] instead? I always keep some [Cat] meat around to feed people requesting for meat-using dishes.
>>50399016>Added higher-tier materials and several new top-tier materials (internal, experimental).I hope this means actual material progression down the line. It's dumb how 90% of materials are practically meaningless because rubynus is so easy to get.
>>50399448I would rather use scale or iron than rubynus for equips. Unless you mean for tools but then there's 0 need for progression since lmao no equipment crafting
>>50399508This. The game needs gear crafitng/customization of some kind mid->endgame at least. Otherwise you can add all the sprinkles you want, it's all just going to get brushed off regardless. People can have their own opinions/things they enjoy, but the game needs/should have more than uncle noas nefia slot machine. Even if whats added is based around doing that for materials/runes/dismantled bits and bobs.
>>50399600>nefia slot machineyeah, especially when you can just buy better equipment than whatever garbage low level nefias will give you
>>50397015So, I have the quest to kill the thieves' guild or the fighter's guild master. What I want to know is can I join more than 1 guild at a time and if I kill one of the guild masters will they respawn and allow me to join?
>>50399704 (Me)I just found out that you can only be in one guild at a time so I guess I'll join the thieves' guild once I beat the main quest and do all the end game stuff I want to do.
Sailors Guild when bros....Explore the seas...
>>50399730>one guild at a timegod damni havent played elona since it changed handsis this the kind of dumbass that got ahold of it, or is this some big sperg-mod thing?
>>50399747I think it was always 1 guild at a time, which makes sense because all the guilds in Elona are hostile to each other, so much so that they are all in cities as far away from each other as they can get. This isn't to be confused with the Adventurer's Guild, which basically all Adventurers are apart of.
>>50399759you sure bout that?swear i remember being in more than one back in 'daycould just be retarded tho, been a while
>>50399765I wouldn't know I'm "new" in the sense that I knew about this game since the sseth review and was interested in it but took what... 8 years to eventually start playing it?
Where's my summoning class that boosts summon spells Why is Pianist basically the only Charisma class.
>>50399765It's always been one guild at a time in Elona and Elona+. The difference was that if you wanted to make use of another guild's services, you had to Teleport away the NPC standing guard over the stairs and then when you entered, use Incognito to make the hostile NPCs non-hostile.The main change that Elona+ did regarding this was that the Guildmasters remained hostile even if you used Incognito and will beeline towards you like any Nefia boss, tunneling through walls and stuff to do so. So it meant that anything you wanted to do in there had to be fast or close enough that you can exit before the Guildmaster can get to you. On the other hand, because only the Guildmaster is hostile to you, it meant that if you were strong enough, you could farm the Guildmasters of other guilds for stuff.
>>50399953>Warrior/Archer: Insignificant 10% dmg bonus>Thief: Doesn't actually do anything>Wizard: Makes your spells weakerNot missing out on much here
>>50399098>That feat reduced casting penalty from being dimmed IVE BEEN AVOIDING THIS SHIT FOR HUNDREDS OF HOURS THINKING IT WAS USELESS
>>50400173If you were a Golem Wizard that managed to make it work, then it didn't do anything for you at all back then. But the 'no casting penalty from shields' is useful these days, especially if you wanted to go dual shield caster or something (one shield for Counter, one shield for Block Ranged). Or do you get a casting penalty for using TWO shields as opposed to one, even with Heavy Cast 3?Still, I'm waiting for the Pervert Hero Feat. The one where the more slots you have unequipped that isn't a weapon or shield, the bigger bonuses you get to damage and Perfect Evasion and stuff. Cast off all your gear and fight naked! You know that's when a true Hero really gets serious. It'd also be a buff to Chaos Shape on a side.
What if you could enchant an item to have the boomerang trait that returns to your have? Boomerang piano...
>chance to cast is 93%>equip shield>down to like 50>take feat>63nah still fuckin useless
>>50400316I hate that casting can still fail like half of the time even with 99% success chance
>>50400320That's X-COM BABY!
Oh shit, what do I do now? It's the first time I'm getting a fertilized egg of a unique character and of course I never bothered with random dog eggs from nests. It's a completely unplanned pregnancy bros. I just bought food with bug mix from Rodwyn and gave it to Melilith because it had 10 MAG.
>>50400332That front facing little girl is disturbing me.
>>50400332Enjoy your chicken.
>>50400352Yeah, I just realized Melilith is a『』character. Oh well, I'm not ready for this kind of responsibility anyway.
>>50400211>>50400316You still get a casting chance penalty, heavy cast just removes the success chance cap so you can actually reach 100% if you level the skill enough.
>>50400442>says it removes penalty>does notthanks chatGPTvery cool
>>50399998>On the other hand, because only the Guildmaster is hostile to you, it meant that if you were strong enough, you could farm the Guildmasters of other guilds for stuff.If you force yourself into a guild you aren't supposed to be in the moment you attack the Guildmaster, all non-vendor NPCs also turn hostile as well. Its what makes the Mage's Guildmaster a pain in the ass, you have 10 shitty wizards spamming lighting bolt at you while the Guildmaster himself is.
>>50399998I remember I had to go incognito to train the the enemy guild
When it comes to equipment with Water Breathing, does the level matter? Like I can see that I should make gear out of Coralwood if I want to jump into the ocean, but could stuff made out of Coral or Lapus Lazuli, Mica and Turquoise work the same if the equipment have the trait? Or do they only give the ability to operate in water for a long duration and what I actually want are equipment with 'You can breath underwater' from Nefias and such?
>>50400641Just buy the ribbon from dwarf shop. It saves you from lots of hassle.
>>50400653Yeah, but my pets would also require water breathing, right? That's a lot of Small Medals for 6 pets plus myself.
>>50400673Nope, they dont. Only you need to have it. Only thing it does for them is to protect them from "drown" attack that inflict suffocated stacks.
>>50400680... What, really? I thought they needed it as well because on beach and some land maps, they'd pretty much refuse to move if I entered deep water. Was that just a pathing AI thing for them because I didn't have water breathing? They're not going to also do the same thing when I actually go into the ocean and stand still, are they?
>>50400706Nope, NPCs just behave oddly near water tiles. Unless they actually like them like mermaids etc.
Is the game close to completion yet?
>>504008051 to 2 years of early access = at least 5 years in early access
>>50400805>>50400890I'm sure noa is working hard but at the rate the game is developing it'll take at least a decade before any of these promised goals are realized.
>>50399746This but the skies
I hate how walls work so fucking much, I don't care if they work like blocks but with an almost invisible skin AT LEAST LET ME CHOOSE ALL THE FUCKING DIRECTS AND SIDES.
>>50401065>AT LEAST LET ME CHOOSE ALL THE FUCKING DIRECTS AND SIDES.No... :3
>>50400958lmao those are never getting finished to anyone's expectations
Does delegated replant even already harvested bushes?
>>50401100Dwarf Fortress and Elin should share notes and do crossovers, Caves of Qud can come too, but I'd rather Elin just steal the game wide faction mechanic, I think that'd be pretty cool.
I hope nothing sends Noa into a depression spiral again
>>50401065Support platform, niggy
>>50401114He is Japanese so most likely he will eventually spiral and I don't even mean that in a hateful way. Japanese society is fucking rough.
>>50401118Considering he's surrounded by d*cord fags, any moment now he'll go into a melty like every Japanese creator that interacts too much with westoids
>>50397015Games like Elona or Elin recommendations?
>>50401065uhm likedo you know how STUPID it would look the OTHER way around? you IDIOT? like what if i wanted to WALK there or something on the OUTSIDE you MORON?>we really need to start killing children that test positive for autism>or anyone who uses discord really
>>50401129I hate walls so fucking MUCHHH
>>50401114At least this time it's possible to finish the game with mods without learning some obscure Japanese scripting language.
>>50401135i mean anyone with half a brain would have just put them on the edge and allowed full rotation and not blocked the tile, but no>muh autistic retardation because muh style or some shithe flat out just didnt want to code more than "wall is item on ground lolz"
>>50401141The game is on fucking unity too which makes it even more retarded he just doesn't make the walls go on the grid lines.
>>50401146so shorry anchent nihongo warr pracement forded 1000 times baka gaijin wiw not mock
haha benis farm
>>50401174>microdick self-reportbro you good?
>>50401180This good enough?
>>50401146I'd say it's probably from the time it was known as Elin's Inn and it hasn't been revisited since. If attention is put on 'fixing' stuff like that instead, I bet there'll be people angry that stuff like that is being worked on instead of fixing 'current issues' like Vampires still.
>>50401247>building shit that makes fucking sense logically isn't a 'current issue'>in a game where you build a god damn townyou a retard
wait a fucking minute, i just discovered that remnants can be donated just fine
>>50400304https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Kill_Kill_Piano
Is there a way to turn off Mani's dominate machine on pets? It's so annoying.
>>50345000>>50359440here's a mod, this was way more difficult than expectedhttps://files.catbox.moe/ey5tc4.zip
>>50401255It's not an issue, it's a quality of life improvement thing. Low on the priority list. If you want to make it an actual issue, go bombard Noa's feedback channel(s) until he 'fixes' this for you.
>>50401886eh. a dll for nerun? normal replacement wouldn't work?
>>50402008strangely no, there's a file with her sprite in the _Elona package widget folder, but the game ignores it. I had to manually dig into the unity layer object for the title screen, find the texture in the news layer, and then replace it at runtime.
>>50402025nice job anon. by the way, it's not that it's ignoring the widget folder, the tooltip nerun and widget nerun are seperate. if you add the nerun UI widget it will use whatever png you have in there.
>>50402044ah i see, that makes sense! i haven't messed with the ui too much, but i'll check out that setting, thanks!
Did Noa change something about tents? I cant enter my tent while in a Nefia.
>>50401886Is there a size restriction? or is it autoscaled like the portraits?229 x 255 from first linked post280 x 312 in the mod folder
>>50402283You still can, I think it's just that you can't enter your tent while in combat as a quick escape & heal cheese mechanic
I use the tent as a way to reroll nefia bosses. unfortunately it saves after killing the bosses so I can't reroll the rewards...
>>50402284not autoscaled, i tried with the original smaller image before and it broke. I can try to add autoscaling in, but with the current dll it has to be 280x312. that's why that image has so much empty space i just increased the size lol
>>50401114It's coming.
>>50401136Yeah, at least this time Elin+ will be possible to the average person instead of modding only being possible for archeologists.
Is pet arena a thing in Elin? I wanna send my bahamut in to rape everything.
>>50402651In Elona its in Port Kapul next to the Inn, try there first.
>>50402651Nah. NPCs make reference to it in dialogue so it will likely be implemented eventually.
>>50402651That's a rough 10...
>>50402587I'd rather work with Assembly than HSP. At least Assembly doesn't use the same operator for both assigning value and comparing values...
>>50392116My trap disarm skill is at 29 after 1900 days900 ish hours on this characterBtw I have never been hit by a trap after I unlocked my first level of scavenger/trap detectionI do not understand, or maybe I just forgot, why traps are a big deal.
>>50402934What is Noa or Ano that added the demon fragments to make placeable traps? I think that was the biggest waste of time ever, but I guess I also don't have a dream to play as some sort of Ninja, Rambo, or a 1 man swat team.
>>50402963demon framents are Ano shityou can just dig down where you are standing to place a trap in normal elona
>>50402970>you can just dig down where you are standing to place a trap in normal elonaNo point since your pet will just come and disarm it like an asshole or set it off lol. Being able to place traps isn't worth the exchange of extra damage and storage space.
Why do bows and crossbows have ammo capacity if they never reload.
>>50402982ammo types, once you run out of that type you have to go to a smith to "reload" so you can't just switch to double shot or penetration rounds and just be OP all the time.
someone explainis this something I will need to wikiIt used to read potion of critical healing last time I crafted these but now its all putit?
>>50403037The type of potion you brew is decided by the highest relevant trait. Use a green herb instead and you'll be able to to make a healing potion.
>>50403191ehhh its still seems a bit weird. I swapped around my neutralizers and now it's back to cure
That's a big baby
>>50403342SHE'S ONLY 17 YOU SICK FUCK!
I really need dark mode elinthe bright tan menus/UI flashbang my eyes at 3AM
What's the highest recipe level ?
>>50403373If they're old enough to knock back a Crim Ale after work...
Is blueberry farms still the king of cash crops?
summon WHAT?
I sunk 100 hours into Elin on release and then stopped playing to wait for more updates. Is Succ Pianist then spending your first year doing music quests in Palmia still the most pain-free start?
>>50403728Tentacle dog.
>>50403728Just like my hentai games
>eat cookie>start bleeding internallyWhy are they spiking cookies with anticoagulants?
>>50403315very esoteric
Is it worth to invest in Looter feat early on? 25/50/75% higher chance to get a better loot sounds good but I'm guessing it doesn't affect chests?
>>50403958Pastries and cookies from a certain witch often contains hidden surprises if you're not a Gourmet
This nefia was a stuff of nightmaresAboveboard (??) modifier: No buffs or debuffs for all entities inside, including status effectsFearsome: many『monsters』Magic Affinity: enemies gain Anti-Magic –80.kept getting raped because the bosses kept ending up as the Aya girls
uuuuhhhhhhmmmmmmgiggidy
>>50404673>Younger Vampire Sister, please suck me, I taste like a high class cream grand parfait
not a fan of Elin, too much simulation Are they going to make a new Elona game?
wow vampire npcs are unbricked
>>50404410Where do I find this corpse replacer?
How much worse is DWing than 2H?
>Vampires burn when exposed to sunlight without protection>Undeads burn when exposed to sunlight without protection>Ghosts burn when exposed to sunlight without protectionThat's great and all, but when will this also apply to Liches and Wraiths, who both actually have the 'Undead 1' Racial Feat?
>>50405225You should burn when napping in exposed sunlight as "napping temporarily grants the undead trait while sleeping", just to be a meme.
>>50405225>random lich adventurers would just burn to death prob thats why
>>50405256I'm not trying to dictate someone else's fiction or video game but imho, if you're a Lich you should be automatically unwelcome in polite society unless there is an extreme reason to tolerate you like an apocalypse, as soon as you hit Lichdom you should be locked up in some forbidden or forgotten corner of the world studying domes and doing forbidden magic, unbeknownst to the rest of the world.
>>50405277>domeskek, tomes
>>50405277Mysilla is extremely progressive so that any race is welcome apart from sn*ils
>>50405304>Lich turns you into an undead against your will>You're only upset because now you'll be taxed more for people having to put up with the stench of your decay>Otherwise your life continues on as normal and no one has any problem with itSuch is life...
>>50405277NPCs should have a racist personality trait, which makes them throw rocks at Eleas (low racism) or all other races (high racism).
>>50405225Because it's not part of the undead but ashborn trait.>>50405277Properly made liches in this setting are indistinguishable from regular people. Even Issizzle has a prettyboy guise he puts on when going out into society.Obvious rotting shamblers are the result of poor craftsmanship and "naturally" occurring undead.
>>50405349I like that actually>>50405387Isn't the whole point (lesson?) of the Lich is that when you try to unnaturally bend the natural world to your own selfish desires (immortality or fear of death) that it basically warps you into a monster? If you can become a Lich and just look normal wouldn't everyone do it?
>>50405422I dunno, that hot milf lich from exile town would like to disagree.
Race/class that is immune to being taxed when?
>>50405478Cool it with the anti-semitic buffs.
>>50405478golem made of overdue tax bills
Which god is ideal for vampires to end with? I was mainly thinking of Itzpalt for the fire resistances to plug up the huge fire weakness much easier, especially if I go caster style. But then I though that I could go with Kumiromi still, because even though Vampires don't really need to eat and can just suck dat seventh heaven blood instead, I could eventually just make a lot of food with a ton of ketchup instead while making food for my pets on the side. Or perhaps to leverage the pet army I'll eventually end up with, perhaps Kizuami for that support sword? Or end up with my usual one and only goddess Jure, though for Vampires it'd be making up for the Will hole with her bonuses, I guess.I still feel like I might do my usual Opatos -> Kumiromi god switcheroo before settling on a god, because having the Golden Wife can be such a huge deal and the Earth Hammer is always great, and Kumiromi's Scythe gives that Farming and Cooking bonus. Though for the Golden Wife, because I have the Ayameduki mod, I know I can just bear with it and grab a Xenoorca instead if I don't want to deal with Divine Punishment. Xenoorca from the Artificial Race has the racial Feat attribute that lets them carry a ton of stuff like the Golden Wife. But they're not the Golden Wife.
>>50405952the fox that gives you infinite stamina so you can grind bloodsuck level
Speaking of gods, it's been a few patches since i've done the religion shuffle. Is there any downside to saving up tributes for gods, and then swapping one after another with no time between? That should let you deal with the penalty debuff the shortest amount of time between right?
>>50406011meant to write kot, guess fox pheromones got to my brain
>>50406011I'm guessing how that'd work is to put someone onto a gallow and just stab them a bunch of times with the Lucky Dagger when needed for stamina recovery, until you hit Blood Suck level 30?
>>50406090yeah but change the blood suck level to 3000
>>50406090There's no reason this wouldn't work for succubus making larva, right? You could theoretically end up with a like, aphrodesiac level 400 thing and level 50+ or whatever for mischief upgrade?
>>50406025If you swap within the same day, you should only need to deal with either 2000 or 2020 turns of Divine Punishment (depending on whether they count 'day 1' as '1 day' or '0 days'). Though you can always just go with a Demigod and switch through all the gods in one day if you wanted to, but that'd require you to play Demigod.
>>50404780the usual blogit's a remains/wreck replacer actually so you see them a lot
Is there any logic to how god statues spawn? Or is it just run void from the top floor until you get what you want?
>>50404780https://amaebiworld.web.fc2.com/rkgk/elin/elin_replace.htmthe fanbox link at the bottom, there's a zip file
>>50406492or you can just run down vernis floors every week while you have a detector equipped
What are the chances we get to visit the moon(s)?
>>50406817https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9MZNEXrElwYou don't want to go to the moon in Elona apparently there is an old man farm run by little girls up there.
>>50406817AIEEEE
>>50405422>Isn't the whole point (lesson?) of the Lich is that when you try to unnaturally bend the natural world to your own selfish desires (immortality or fear of death) that it basically warps you into a monster?There is no Christianity in Ylva.I'm sure some people here see death as a natural part of life that everyone must participate in, but immortality is relatively common, and not just in the form of undeath.>If you can become a Lich and just look normal wouldn't everyone do it?The problem is how complicated and difficult it is.A mage becomes a lich not for immortality, but to rebuild his body anew, making it more durable and capable of wielding his immense power.There's no downside here, other than it's fucking hard to do right. And if you fail, you'll become a regular undead monster like the liches we see in Nefias.Except Wraith, who seems like a revenant, too angry to die. There's no wraith lore to say for sure yet, but I'd bet you can't control it.Compared to becoming a greater undead, immortality is piss easy. Just study alchemy at a relatively advanced level and drink your rejuvenation potions until you can create a potion of eternal youth.No risk, just hard work, unless you want to seduce some witch into doing that for you.As for vampires, there's no vampire-specific lore in Ylva (yet?). Like, why do they burn in the sun? Does Itzpalt, the sun god, hate them? Why does he hate ghosts and zombies, but not all undead? And so on.For now, Noa is implementing vampires according to some generic vampire myth in popular culture. I hope he will eventually give them some connection to his world.
>>50405952Itzpalt + any undead is too good for all the resists. But I'll stay with my fox mother-wife.As for stamina, you can just sleep to recover it and eat more. Days are not limited.Also, your biting action exp is heavily tied to your learning stat, so you'll probably don't want to spend your first year just for biting even if you have infinite stamina.You need to build stats to train your bite and you need to train your bite to build stats, so I wouldn't bother with it at least until I'll find the best learning blood with other useful stats as extra. And then it's just normal train, sleep and eat cycle.
>>50406883>There is no Christianity in Ylva.There are no Liches in the Bible...
>Feel weird bout characters aging and getting old and shit>Even in game that doesn't do anything with it>Friend tells me about eternal 13 >Tell him thats a mod and hes an idiot>He says scroll down on the expanded laws page>Oh no I've been retarded this whole time
>>50406923To put it simply, a significant part of Christianity is about victory over death, and achieving this through anything other than God is heresy. Vampires are also tied to Christianity, and drinking human blood is a perversion of Christian rituals.It is everywhere in Western culture and most people are so used to it that they don't even notice.
>>50406941>Vampires are also tied to ChristianityNo, Vampires are a pagan folk monster that was actually very smartly adapted to Christian lore, you can read about Vampires both in plays and in "travel logs" from humans as far back as the Mesopotamians, Ancient Greeks/Romans, and Hebrews.
>>50406951>No, X is a pagan YYea that's literally 98% of christianity.
>>50406964So then its not Christian, its just adapted to Christian culture, much like how Jesus in China and Japan is constantly depicted as a buff asian man.
>>50406967>So then it's not-Correct. I was agreeing.
>>50406951Well, the vampires of popular culture are based on later stories that were already modified by Christianity.But you're right. That's what Christians did all the time.The pagan evil spirits you drive away with curses and insults? Yeah, they're demons from hell who turned against God. Prayer and holy water work better!
>>50406972That just brings up another question, why bother being a Lich when you can just become a God by apotheosis?>>50406975Kinda disrespectful but I'm not gonna try and turn this into a shitshow.
>>50406967>its just adapted to Christian cultureThere are some funny examples.Like, we haven't figured out yet how this Christmas thing works, but we're trying.
>>50406988He died for you presents....
Jure is literally jesus
>>50406996I know this is "Japanification" of language where Juere sounds different than Jure, but its always been my headcannon that the race and the god are connected some how.
>>50407006Jure is a spic?
>>50407083Yes, it's pronounced like an H instead of J. It's fitting between all her gifts sent to heathens and the warm welcome of her festival.
>Paladin only gets something from jureNOAI WILL COME TO JAPAN IF YOU DONT FIX THISI WILL COME TO JAPAN AND POLITELY ASK YOU TO FIX ITDO NOT MAKE ME PROVE MYSELF
>>50407173Do it nyaa
>play as vampire>craft two things>fucking explodeyep im going back to succubus this is ballsacks
>>50407455why did you craft the demon core and a sunlamp
>>50406978Because becoming a god is hard. There are only two recorded instances of people making it to godhood, in the hundreds of thousands of years since the age of beginning.Let's review the origins of the known gods:Eyth, Itz, Opatos: personified primordial forces Lulwy: Ascended wind spriteJure: reincarnated goddessElin, Yakasha, Ehekatl: children of godsKumi: ayylmao Foxes: mystical shinto woo-woo bullshit Mani, Yevan: actual humans who ascended Only Lulwy, Mani and Yevan could be said to have achieved apotheosis, and Mani's case highlights the fact that adding yourself as a god without an invitation to the club is frowned upon by the others. Without the eternal league of nefia forcing a ceasefire, it's likely that Mani's apotheosis would have caused fighting to break out.Lichdom is far safer in comparison.
>pick vampire>sleep because stamina is out and youre fucked trying to over-work with 5 hp>wake up starving>nothing in site but fiama and ashland and your little girl >snack on little girl>fiama kills youthis shit needs more time in the oven it aint fuckin done
>>50407570Wait. I nibbled the little girl, fiama murdered meBiting either Ash or Fia...makes them like youWhat the fuck is happening
>>50406978>Kinda disrespectfulBad writing on my part, sorry.That's not what I meant, but then I reread my post and laughed for five minutes straight.There are jokes about how curses and swearing were replaced by prayers, but they were completely out of my mind when I wrote it.To be fair, there really are East Slavic pagan evil spirits that were scared away by curses and insults. So if you encounter something weird or unnatural, start swearing and it won't be able to harm you and will go away. It's pretty funny that this is the most natural Slavic reaction to any kind of weird shit.After Christianity, this all smoothly transitioned into Christian ideas, so evil spirits became demons. Sort of. They're not like European demons - powerful fallen angels, who will try to tempt you into sin or a deal in exchange for your immortal soul. No. They still want your soul so they can drag you to hell and force you to do all sorts of humiliating things, but they're mostly petty and mischievous, perfect for just telling them to fuck off without too much drama.
>>50407532Would trying to become a small god work though? As long as you don't tread on the others you'll have enough time to be accepted into the pantheon or just have them ignore you.
>>50407173Imagine worshipping inferior gods like Mongi, Eheskatl, Yevagina, Kumsockiromi or Opisstos lmao
>>50407695>When you worship Ehekatlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPFiKEm-oNI
>>50407703Paladin of Ehekatl should get like +1000 luck for 3 days and higher chances to get jackpots/rare materials while doing gamba and gacha
>>50407710She knows if she pays out people might just use it to turn apostate so you have to continuously gamble for that 1% blessing drop
>>50407713Truly the most evil goddess...even Mani, Lulwy and Yakasha can't compete
>>50407715I think that's Kumiromi because if you have negative karma he lies to you and says he is a girl.
>>50407703ehkatl lorewise is the only goddess where you can put in almost no work and get a blessing off of, she also is probably the only goddess where you put in a lot of work and never get a blessing. I like to think she just has a huge wheel of fortune wheel she spins every morning.
>>50407720I have negative karma and I will treat him like a girl if you know what I mean.
FACT: Yevan is basically Khorne, and it is customary to give him meat and corpses.
>>50407728Kumiromi accepts corpses and he is the god of farming.>>50407728In Elona all the gods have gods inside of them, meaning that each god is not only a god of the universe they are in, but they all have universes inside of them that houses a god. To me that is metaphysically fascinating, is the god inside the gods just another aspect of them or is it another entity all together? The fact that they are stronger than the gods has some really dark implications, as if they are being puppeted by an even higher being. Maybe the God/Gods of the Gods? Cthulu? Do they even exist at all or are they just some sort of projection by a more powerful and sinister being? It could just me a metajoke about the devs themselves but stuff like this is basically head canon crack to me.
>>50407728Nope. He is a war nerd.Ivan is very far from any classic, cliched war god. You could argue there's a bit of Odin in his style, but he's more of a representation of actual, real life war than anything else. And real war is serious nerd shit where supply lines, technology, and economics matter more than testosterone-fueled axe-wielding monkeys ever will.This guy may enjoy fighting on the front lines for fun, but it's easy to imagine him taking control of large-scale military operations and coordinating various units when it matters most, using every advance in tactics and technology to win, while actively creating more.He's about the evolution of war and evolution through war, but at the same time, he genuinely cares for his followers. He wants them to evolve, not die. It's the same with humanity as a whole, but unlike that traitor Mani, Yevan doesn't want to turn everyone into robots so they can fit into his perfectly calculated artificial world.
>>50407894Yevan has deep respect for Kumiromi and Jure as well, being perfectly aware that it is the blessings of the former that keep the armies well supplied, while the latter is what keeps them alive. Even when you give offerings to him, he's always concerned about whether you're making sure you have enough equipment for yourself to stay alive.But Jure isn't some sole raid party healer. She's not! Stop giving her so much work because you keep telling all your followers to just go to her if you get banged up! But being a Goddess of Healing that's new to the job, she still tries her best (*exploited)! That's why Jure is my one true Goddess, she's such a hard worker (*exploited newbie at the workplace)! Convert to Jure at the Holy Night Festival of Noyel and get a free (possibly unsanctioned) body pillow of Jure!
>>50407173It's a backer class, so there are two options: convince that backer to ask Noa for changes, or make a mod with whatever you want.
Do Void mobs give huge gains for Vampires?
>>50408038you'd still be capped by the 1 level / 1000xp limit unless you use a mod to uncap that.
uhhh if I have a rune with +20 farming and I add it to another equipment that already has farming, will it be added or replaced?..i could just try it and reload save nvm
>>50408104it's a replacement, fuck
Have they added more story to the game since launch?
>>50408207You can get up to the point where you can find a village that also has !female! Exiles in it as well as a Lich with huge boobs
I kept slamming my face against a wall because I couldn't figure out why my mods didn't work, until I realized that converting xls to xlsx by adding the x manually didn't work and I needed to use something like libreoffice. Fuck me, I'm so stupid. At least creating mods is really easy.
>>50408045>the 1 level / 1000xp limitThe what now?
>>50408316Just so that you can't abuse certain mechanics, there is a limit of obtaining 1000 exp per single action. I'm assuming this was put in because if you had pets and/or residents with Lay On Hands, you could power level like crazy by say crafting a whole bunch of stuff that'd put you into -800 Stamina (thus instantly killing you), but because of Lay On Hands, you don't die. Because crafting exp is based on how much Stamina was used for that single action, doing a craft that cost 900 stamina would probably give you 5 digit exp for that specific craft.There is a mod that removes this, of course.
>>50408316You can only ever level up once per meal for each stat. Before I uncapped it, I'd always get 1 and a half level of STR when eating corgon burgers, but after uncapping, I can get 2 levels since it's not arbitrarily capped to 1500 expSimilarly, you can only gain 1 level of piety at most per offering, but after uncapping you can go from 59piety to 63piety with one dodo corpse when converting an altar, provided you have enough faith.
>>50405952>I could eventually just make a lot of food with a ton of ketchupKetchup blood multiplier is bad and doesn't scale. Blood pack multiplier is slightly better but also bad compared to biting.
>Added a message when the state "Bat Form" is applied or removed while being watched by someone. (Losing Karma when the PC is exposed as a vampire by anyone other than companions outside the base is intended behavior.)So, now vampirism is a crime.
20k fame and resident taxes and such from my 4 lands seem to be able to cover the monthly tax +20k for barsHow will this scale with 30k or 50k fame? More properties?
>>50408245does creating sheets in excel count as making mods now?
>>50408577>talking bats are ok>walking around as normal vamp is ok>changing between two is a crime for some reason>hormone potions aren't a crimemysilla laws truly work in mysterious ways
>>50408722Yeah. Logically speaking, vampires should be exposed when they spontaneously combust under the sun as well. You don't look like a ghost or a zombie, right?Imo, that bat thing is kinda meh.It would be better if Noa settled with something less obvious like stopping regeneration under the sun, etc. Or if vampires were outlawed completely, so you would have to use the incognito spell all the time.Not to mention that the bat is somehow wearing full armor, fighting with weapons and doing all the tasks like mining or crafting. It's hilarious.You can also do bird watching as a bat and no one cares.
>>50408742I don't even get why they are outlawed really, to me it feels like a stretch. Most monstrous races are already ok, the only different thing I guess vampire has is blood suck but as long as you succ your party members why would anyone even care?Maybe Noa has some lore idea for it though
>>50408823>I don't even get why they are outlawed reallySame.>Maybe Noa has some lore idea for it thoughI hope so. Maybe he'll somehow tie their origins to negative gods or something.
>>50408823>as long as you succ your party members why would anyone even careDon't know but sucking party members in town has been a crime since vampires were added.
>>50408673ye, content modsyou have asset replacement mods that are supported by the base game or other mods, like custom sprites/portraits/characters and then you have conversion mods of varying complexities like Elona+. been that way at least since doom/half-life.makes it possible for artists to contribute to the modding scene without having to learn programming, it's pretty good
>>50408857yeah and I don't get why it's a problem, you can do a lot of weirder shit that isn't a crime
i recall something aboutb eing able to grow our own seaweed crop? not possible?
>>50408902Deep seaweed, can't be used for basedsauce, but more profitable than blueberries for full delegated since it grows so fast
>>50408621That's a lot of taxes. At that point, is tax evasion worth it?
Vamp seems way too annoying and weirdly restrictive at the moment. Needs a lot of sorting out still obviously. Hope it gets there because the idea is neat and the mechanics could be fun, seems more intended to be a lategame race? But starting out, drinking from fia a few times, she randomly loves it or 1shots you for trying. Bat form is also kindof horrid overall. Also fuck food XP cap, what's the point of the entire farming/food mechanic if it just gets cut off at the head?
>>50409292>Vamp seems way too annoying and weirdly restrictive at the moment. probably because you are trying to play it like a normal race. why would you drink from fia instead of an animal?bat form is great idk how you can think it's horrible
I love tsunderes.
>>50409328>Why would you drink from fia instead of an animal?What fucking animal? There was literally 4 NPCs on the lot when I woke up almost starving. Ash, Fia, Loytel, and the little girl companion. >Like a normal raceLiterally succubus can rape both of them retarded with 0 downside. >Bat form is greatYes I love not being able to over-craft, having 5 HP total (but muh -damage) ok 10 effective HP wow holy shit. No mana at all, in exchange for some pitiable dodge and speed. And now apparently you lose karma for turning into one in public despite all the other shit you can do without penalty. Which just smells like "Lore Vs Mechanics" >Rape a child fairy to death? (Before the NPC instant stamina refill every tick change anyway)A-ok>Turn into a bat in a world that has shapeshifting in world already? HOLY SHIT EVIL ABHORRENT CREATURE. NAAAAURRRTYYY.It's just wonky.The whole thing really just seems like hes trying to deal with race fantasy vs what makes sense in the game.
>>50409382>when I woke up almost starving.turn off your fucking cheat mods then retard, you don't start the game starving. If you mean at the start of the day then eat normal food that you get at the start of the game, eat fucking berries, go to field next to your base, this seems like an IQ issue>Literally succubus can rape both of them retarded with 0 downside.succubus isn't a normal race, and it should have fucking downsides>Yes I love not being able to over-craft, having 5 HP total (but muh -damage) ok 10 effective HP wow holy shit. No mana at all, in exchange for some pitiable dodge and speed. then make a fucking house and change back? buy a fucking tent? the dodge makes you immune to all sources of early game damage, saying 80 speed is bad is literal brain damage tier. I don't know you are able to even play this game on your own
>50409417>Turn off your fucking cheat modsWhat the fuck are you talking about you retarded mong? I didn't say the first time I woke up, I said woke up starving. After sleeping. >Eat berriesVampires don't get food from berries you dumbass. >Retard hasn't played in forever65% dodge is shit. It's 60 speed.>Succubus isn't a normal raceNeither is vampire. Which is why you don't compare it to one. Obvious troll or retard or something. >Not even giving a (you) at this point.
>>50409445>Vampires don't get food from berriesthey don't get nutrition you retard and you would know if you even tried playing the game instead of crying after 2 minutes>65% dodge is shitagain, play the fucking game, yeeks and other garbage won't hit you so you can feed on them>Neither is vampire. Which is why you don't compare it to one.you should be comparing vampire to fairy but I don't think you are capable of figuring out how to equip items so you probably wouldn't notice any difference in playstyle
>>50409292There are also are time-based stats (fucking awful as a game mechanic), so if you want to be extra safe, you'll have to wait for the night to fight. At least, it's optional.>Vamp seems way too annoying and weirdly restrictive at the moment.Way less then it was before.Now you can cast mist, go out of bat form and fight if you have to.Weak ass bat can be a problem, so it's better to avoid monster hunting quest during the day early on, but you can do everything else and even combat with your pets.Also, with all new restrictions you'll probably take 5 ascetic feats and your health will be fine even in bat form (just pre-nerf).Fire resist is easy enough to get from shops.>Hope it gets there because the idea is neat and the mechanics could be fun, seems more intended to be a lategame race?In the endgame you'll be immune to the sun, so it will be just another race with 130-150 life and mana and somewhat useful learning stat. Nothing special, since there will be no major problem to build the gameplay around.>But starting out, drinking from fia a few times, she randomly loves it or 1shots you for trying.Get grindstone at day 1. Mine 4 clay and use 4/6 starting potions to make mixer. Now you can cook corpses for safe blood.Or just bite whatever animal you can find without (stinky) food trait. It will be fine 95% of the time. But my personal RP restriction is to only bite cute girls I like.Now, kill 100 whatever critters and learn riding. That's it. You can now feed on your roran and ride her, so she will survive your bite.For your troubles you get:1. Somewhat fat ass, even fatter at night. Up to 150/150, just not 100% of the time.2. Good stats, even better at night.3. Great resists (undead race).4. Great early game recruitment for your free night charisma (+7 from day one, but idk how far it can grow later)5. Amazing progress from intimate to bento and further (pet exp boost), since your pets now love being bitten if they are already like you.6. A bit random, but nice way to bypass early game food with blood and still use maxed food later on if you want for just seasoning slot (ketchop).7. Infinite amount of great food if you're lucky or trained your alchemy.8. Your bite is a combat skill you can use to rip someone's throat if you want.I thing it's good. The only thing his vampires really lack is lore. Unique, Ylva-specific vampire lore to be exact.
>>50409417I actually like using the Bat Form for when I'm moving around on the world map, because of the big speed boost. It only costs 1 stamina to switch back and forth, and you get back all the Life 'lost' for being in Bat Form anyway. It's all about taking advantage of the transformations. People already used the Putitification to recruit NPCs off the Charisma boost for being a Putit, and Catification has melee combat applications (though it doesn't give you free Cat Eye, even though you turn into a cat. Fix this, Noa!). Even the Hand of the Magician uses Broomification on itself for the +40 speed, +20 DV and free Levitation to fling out spells faster. Pre-nerf Bat Form was the same but better, with the fact that it lasted forever was why those pre-nerf Vampires ended being in perma-Bat Form, because it was that good, especially for Vampire casters.
werewolf when
>>50409468Vampire is perfect for when you want to go full autist base building or crafting mode (or be a NEET). You don't even need to stock up on food, so just dump all your corpses (and fish if Ehekatl) on offerings. Your pets never starve to death, and them starving doesn't mean you get less gains from their blood. And you can already do this from the start of the game if you want; just save and reroll the pet offer from Fiama until you get one with great blood by just moving a bit away and then taking a bite. See that they have [Stinky] or [Rare] next to their name up top? Just reroll, it means it's terrible ([Rare] for me is most often a Fortune Cookie).Note that if you have mods that introduces additional food like the 'Add sushi toppings' mod, your starter pet can start out tasting like something from that as well (that is to say, modded food is also added into the pool). My Little Girl tastes like seventh heaven Salmon Roe Sushi, for instance.
>>50409526>Almost regular human stats but turns into beast during the nightUnless at one point you get to force the transformation (Let's say you craft some midgame vial through alchemy) it'll have the same problems.
>>50409526If there's going to be a next playable race, it's most likely going to be a Machine race. One of the Nightly build patches had done some adjustments to the Machine race with an additional note stating that though not yet confirmed, those adjustments were being made for a possible future playable Machine race
yakasha worship for PC when
Eventually you'll be able to summon gods and bite them for [god] blood. I hope.
I want to bite Jure on the lips
TotalJureLOVE
>>50409591That'd be terrible, mainly because:- Kumiromi would probably either taste like the most delicious vegetable dish or taste like the dirt of the earth (great if you're a plant), but it'd also drive you insane and make you hallucinate for a great many turns- Opatos would taste like a great high protein bodybuilder meal that also tastes like ore, assuming you can even bite him (your fangs might be too weak to pierce his adamantite skin, aka Cut Resistance)- Itzpalt would probably taste like the spiciest meal of your (undead) life and also set you on fire from it. But other times maybe he'll taste like a grand parfait- Mani can't be bitten. He's mostly machine, after all. If he could, he'd taste like oil.- Ehekatl would just taste like a fish meal that causes you to lose 5 Karma every time you take a bite because how could you eat a [Cat]???- D-don't come...! (Jure would taste like seventh heaven pastry. But you wouldn't do that to her, would you? She might go Elona+ mode and decide that the only way to 'fix' you is to full blast you with a Goddess of Healing's power to heal. Only Elona+ players would know what that means.)- Would you even be able to bite Lulwy? Would she even taste like anything? It could be like eating air. Or maybe it'll taste like the cheap ales and wine that her followers often offer to her.- Kizuami and Horome would probably taste like sake. Whether it's noodles or rice, it'll be drenched in sake. It'd make you drunk and vomit all over the place because you wouldn't be able to handle the sort of drink these two regularly handle.- Yevan would taste like... blood. What does the blood of blood taste like? Would a vampire, masters of blood cuisine, even know? Or perhaps being the most 'human' of the gods, he just tastes like a regular [Human Flesh], except taking his blood guarantees the [Cannibalism] Feat.But yeah, terrible idea. Especially for Jure. You wouldn't do such a thing to such a sweet goddess, would you?
Is there any way to remove a brain cell from a pet? I was testing the predator AI but it didn't do what I wanted, and it won't let me use another. Inferior gene didn't seem to help.
>>50409812I haven't tried it, but shouldn't they overwrite each other?
>>50409824unfortunately no, it just says pic related
>>50409468>free night charisma (+7 from day one, but idk how far it can grow later)Vampirism gives base charisma / 7 + 5. Same for other stats, except life/mana/spd which always cap at +20.It's better than people give it credit for.
>>50409859I saw a Vampire that went from around 142 Strength to 168 during the night, so it checks out. Their second highest stat, Charisma, would also go up by nearly 20 in the same way.But that 'at least +6' (from experience it's rounded up) is a lot of stat points right at the start of the game, when those gains might be more than the total of an individual stat (e.g. Will if you picked a class that didn't give a bonus to it, like Pianist). Especially if you're going around recruiting NPCs and such, just turn up in the dead of the night and you'd be able to grab someone you otherwise wouldn't be able to do so at the time, especially if you combine it with the Putit potion to give you an additional +5 Charisma on top of it all.>A strangely charismatic snow putit appearing before you at the stroke of midnight asking if you wanted to join them by singing a contract
Jure ACKBAR
>>50409848You probably need another 4 FP points on the Little Girl to give her a new one
did gods always have height and weight in the journal
>>50409859>It's better than people give it credit for.I just hate it when my stats depend on time of day. It is really strong and useful, but I'd rather not have this bonus at all than have it half the time.With the latest patches it has progressed from being disgustingly terrible to just bad. Maybe mods can improve it further.
>feed vampire my blood
>>50410121Yep. You can make your blood taste bad so when vampires will bite you in combat, they will feel your hatred.
>>50410121>A vampire dislikes you.>You feel heroic.
I just dont understand why being a vampire is considered a crime in Ylva. We have wraiths, liches, succubus and chaos shapes walking around, but they dont get any trouble for what they are.
>>50410010I have like 20 unspent FP, I don't think that's it
>>50410131Some ideas:1. Regenerator race. Genetically modified human, optimized to fight vampires, werewolves and leprechauns where superior fire power is not enough.Yerles base, but with melee potentials and lowered magic. Regeneration ticks every turn. Reboot with cd tied to regeneration skill.2. Witch Hunter class. Melee/crossbow hybrid. Can apply potions to weapons and arrows like Sword Sage do with spells.3. Potion of silver blood. Your blood will harm vampires if they bite you. Cause bleeding when thrown at anything that weak to silver.
>>50410312Isn't 2 just Inquisitor but without the religion?
How do I actually USE defertilizer on my flowers? I am holding the bag but no option pops up to use it when clicking on the flower.
There should be an option to 'bite gently' for Vampires, which can only happen through Talk dialogue. Similar to 'suck me (blood)', you should be able to ask someone who likes you enough for their permission to suck their blood. The difference being that they won't hate you for it (why would they agree to something they hate?), and while taking longer, isn't like as if you're trying to rip their neck off at the same time. This 'consensual sucking' shouldn't be considered a crime if done in public. Please give option for consensual sucking.
What about a Hivemind race?>You can spawn an ally>it divides your stats, this ally scales with you, has % of your stats>you can keep subdividing to some limit>you can also reincorporate them againSlime race.Have a party entirely made up of (You) based on a % of your stats depending on how much you divide.
>>50410342It's more about the gameplay, but yes. Inquisitors hunt heretics, and witch hunters don't care about your beliefs.
>>50410390Make playable centaur race but you have to start as a human and have sex with a horse to make one and if you have sex with a centaur there's a chance to make: a horse, a centaur, a reverse centaur, or a regular person.
>>50410431>>50410390What about a race that can shapeshift into animals (a fucking BEAR)
marriage doko?
>>50410539What would it give you? More growth %? Pets *in love* already outgrow you.
>>50410582official harem!
Forming my kitsune harem. Damn she was so fucking strong. Pretty sure she's immune to blind too, completely wasted my 5 potions. She also teleports during the fight, fucking annoying. Kinu pulled her weight in this fight gloriously, without her I'd be a mincemeat. I was definitely too low level for this fight.And now I can't even recruit her yet, even with all my Charisma boosting gear and putit potion I only get 74 and I need 80. Oh well, I'll get that red fox pussy later.
>>50410582Part of their stats applying to the PC would be good
Oh hello everyone, i was passing by and noticed you guys were discussing possible future races. How about Orcs? I do believe there is quite a big interest in playing such interesting and fascinating race as Orc. I heard many fellow Elin players complaining about lack of playable orcs for a while and i think game would benefit greatly from not only adding them as playable race but also expanding on their lore, and perhaps even adding some recruitable NPCs. My friends who play Elin said about elusive orc captain npc that many players dream of adding to their party.Not to mention that orcs are simply a staple race in every fantasy setting so giving them much deserved spotlight would be a very welcome addition. What do you guys think?
>>50405387Canonically speaking, how do liches have sex?
what about playable norland
>>50410817More like SNORLAND
>>50410817>you can be anything>"Yes I would like to be the most boring thing imaginable."Are Norlanders the majority ethnic group of North Tyris?
Mermaid raceif you're not constantly wet you start dying-50 speed on land
HmmmmPlayable yeeks, perchance?
>>50410907Yeek RaceYeek GodYeek ACKBAR
>>50410907What are the yeek stats?
>Dual wield never gets good.>Just like Vinland saga season 2.
>>50410937>Dual wield never gets good.Dual wielding with Guts sword and Kyrias says otherwise.
Just go 21 Hand Chaos Shape to make Dual wield good.
>>50410930Regular baseline Yeek is>5 STR>9 END>8 DEX>9 PER>8 LEA>6 WIL>8 MAG>8 CHASo basically so long as you aren't trying to go full berserker you're a less shitty snail that also has a modicum of smoochability
guess even exiles have to pay their taxes
>>50411020NOTHING escapes the IRS, not even the gods themselves.
>>50411020sex with exile
can someone update the elin mega please...
Buff Demigods
>>50411458>3 apostles>30% worship buff
>>50411458Just worship Eyth for massive stats.
>"massive" stats
If one of your pets cook for you, do you get penalised in some way if you give the bento to another pet? Would that other pet eat the bento?I'm mostly thinking in terms of a Vampire. If the bento doesn't have any Blood Meal modifiers in it at all, would you even want to eat it, except to be nice? Even if it did, would the mish-mash of random meals put together into a bento be worth it over sucking some good blood? The only bento I can think of that'd still be 'worth it' in this sense is the ones you can buy from [Big Sister], at least until it stops being worth it.
>>50410033Yes
>an snes game from 1994 let you put ketchup on something you were eating just before you ate it>a pc game in 2025 cantidiocracy....is real
The worst part about vampires is that you can't make others also vampires so you still have to set up a food industry if you want to raise your pets up.
>>50411458Demigod godly awakening wen
Is Mifu/Inquisitor still the best for late game Void runs?
>>50411629Is inquisitor even good?
>>50411388There's an Elin mega?>>50411955I'd say so just for the roleplaying but I haven't played Elin, I just gravitate to classes like "farmer" or "Inquisitor".
>>50411527A snes game also has way less memory and processing so that means less game and less assets so of course for what little there was they would be detailed as they could. Back then it was the little things you could do like that, that would make or break the game.
>>50411521If you are a vamp, bentos given to you will always be tagged with blood meal.
Been a long while since I last got this thing. What do you guys usually do with it? Do you just sell it because it's worth that much money, or keep it with you in case it's actually useful in the super long run?
>>50411955One of the, if not the, top tier classes. Which is not hard considering the majority of classes do nothing useful and this one can at least contribute *something*. You can also take inquisitor allies but they have a tendency to cast bane on the wrong target.
I'm playing Elona+ and I made the grave mistake of hiring an adventurer for a fucking month, I found out you can't dismiss them or suspend the contract while you go out and do other things, so should I just take this retard to the puppy cave and let her kill shit for me so she for some reason falls in love with me?
>>50412018Save bricked, load the last backup.
>>50410937If you just unga bunga like a retard, then sure.Dim? Blind? True sight? Flurry, chase, frustration? Accurate weapons instead of trying to dual wield adamantite hammers?Half of the "melee is weak" retards don't even gear properly on the gear dependent archetype, let alone have a spare weapon or even gear set for different situations.
>>50412018
>>50412039Melee: Have to tirelessly grind in nefia until you get a good weapon and armor (you won't), or have to farm like crazy so you can level up a black market vendorMage: spam Ice arrow
In Elona+ what do I do with extra food before it rots? Should I cook it and sell it or should I just sell it?
>>50412178Oh also, how do I make specific food items for quests? For example if a job board wants a "soup of animal egg" would an egg cooked at higher value also be available to turned in or does it specifically how to be of that value category?
>>50409848did you delete her previous brain cell or not? click the garbage icon
>>50412202I think deleted his own brain cells by accident.
>>50412189it has to be that specific foodwhich is why I ended up carrying all cookers because BBQ table always made the highest level foods due to my cooking level.>>50412178If you buy a shop deed you can sell all of your extra food for insane prices like 9000z for a cooked dragon or 12000z for some high level egg foodsthe real issue is farming the ingredients
>>50410582NG+ system like Elona.
>>50412482Imagine being able to keep your current character as a resident, or being able to hire yourself in your child's playthrough
>>50410166Nothing too unusual there, Irva has weird laws
>>50411987"break the game" is appropriate considering the infamous condiment glitch that lets you infinitely reuse consumable items
>>50410356Place it on top and it will be used automatically.
>>50412413I figured it out, but you can never choose to make a type of food when you get good enough or is the type of food you make based off of the utensil you use?
How do I add my custom Tachie-e to Elona, I can't find the folder to save my life.
>>50412899lower tier utensils cannot make higher tier foods, there is a cap. so a cooking pot /stove will make lower-mid tier dishes while BBQ table will consistently make higher tier ones
Sometimes I read the shit in this thread and I get confused as fuck, before remembering there's also Elona+ being discussed. Those brief moments are a trip.
>>50413055The more I play Elin, the more I want to play Elona+ again. Many game mechanics are still better there.
>>50411458Cheats, mods and save-edit can fix 99% of "Oh, X is bad/underpowered Noa pls buff!" problems and also half of your RP problems.Self-imposed rules and restrictions can fix 99% of balance problems and the other half of your RP.Just put elder race on a demigod. Now it's great.Just put Sacred Twilight on any race you like. Now you're demigod with a backstory.Want to play an archer with centaur feats, but hate being a centaur? Start as Norlan, add your feats.And so on.
I shan't cheat.I shan't modI will beg.
I shall cheat.I will mod.I will not beg.
Artificer class when
>4chan is so bad at casual early access games they resort to modding and cheating for cloutlollmao even
>>50413034Oh okay, so if I want to make something specific I need to find the same level of utensil, that kinda sucks I sold my kitchen for a food processor :(
>>50413328just steal one from palmia you did level up your STR right?
>>50413203> the game must be made to cater to me, and everyone else must play the way I think it should be played
>>50413152That's cool and all but I want official changes
>>50413152you shouldn't need to save/cheat/mod game to fix balance. I do agree about char creation stuff though and kinda wish we had some point buy mod for it
Noa's intended vision is overratedyou know that he adjusts shit on the game based on discordfag's feedback right?
>>50413518You're so right bro. Noa should hang out in these threads with the auto update on and wait around for 4chan's criticism. He's completely in the wrong to listen to people who shed their anonymity and use a modern chat system for quicker feedback.
>>50413518Not this again, plz, the game is so moddable that eventually we'll get Elin+ and then it doesn't really matter what he does.>>50413529I honestly agree with him that discord is awful, but... Like I also said... Eventually development will slow down and Piss Wolf 2.0 will take over and rebalance stuff and make it playable so I don't see the issue.
>>50413351Sorry anon....my spine can't handle it......it cries out in paint from one mice Luck shrine alone.....my poor frail 42 STR bones'll get turned into a fine snortable powder....it's so fucking over....
How do I check what my current Elona+ version is? I'm suspicious that I actually have 2.4 and not 2.9
>>50413540main menu? top left?
>>50413535>Anon seriously waits for the day a mod will magically appear out of nowhere and fix everything about an early access gameWhat a sad existence, never being satisfied by anything.
>>50413535>Piss Wolf? Nah, it's Scat Wolf now. Get playing.
>>50413569Doesn't have the version numbers for any of the programs lol>>50413590I can wait cause I'm playing Elona+, so yes, I have all the time in the world.
>>50413599At this rate its gonna be Brap Wolf or Feet Wolf
>>50413599Scat wolf is just Noa himself. Shit wines and vomit wines were a delicacy from him
>>50413529>implying he's not watching the thread right now
>>50413638Wait... Have I been noa the whole time... Or has he just been pretending to be me the whole time without me noticing?
>>50413638When is he going to make a character with massive fucking tits?
>>50413720Nyo
>>50413638Haha it'd sure be funny if Noa added proper weapon and armour making, that'd be soooo silly.Almost as silly as worshippable Yakasha + negentropy gods.
>>50413638I'm inclined to believe it to some degree, since I posted this image and the title Rawhide was pulled from the random generation. But it's more likely a snowflake JP player who internalizes everything they read on an anonymous image board probably cried to Noa.
>>50413529I mean right after someone complained about vampire npcs being shit here, next nightly fixed them so... tho maybe discordfags also complained
>>50414005>complained about vampire npcs being shit herePeople in JP dicksword thought they sucked.He doesn't look at the EN side. He thinks they're weird.Not like "space cadet from another dimension" weird.More like "bird with a backwards wing flailing on the ground" weird.
>>50414078to be fair most people on EN side couldn't differentiate between elona and elona+ so I don't blame him if true
>>50412202late reply, but how do you do this? I don't see it in the interface
>>50414257ah I'm retarded, it only shows up after using an inferior gene, thanks anons
>>50413535>Holding up E+ as some kind of standardYou mean the control freak who tries increasingly complex means to try prevent people from savescumming and afk grinding? The no fun allowed guy who "rebalances" constantly and keeps nerfing everything from speed to multi-hits? The hack so enamored of his vision that he bans from his blog anyone who mentions cgx as a mod of his mod?That kind of petty imbecile is going to make "fixes" that other modders have to undo?God forbid. This is no longer a small pond protected by virtue of an obscure programming language, allowing the company store to do what it wants because there's no other choice.>>50414085The Japanese are right to ban all foreign ips from places like shitaraba.
if home story is on the "lighter" side then I guess main story is gonna be world war I tier with chemical warfare and everyone getting ether aids
>>50414921I'm guessing the main story will end up being that:- The Empire finally moves again with their airships and magitek army, Mysilia responds- Ashland and Fiama runs around more looking for fossilised trees- Efrond, working with the Empire again, has Eluminaire activating the trees- Ends up being a race against time as both sides race to activate trees to use as a superweapon- Efrond and Eluminaire eventually succeeds in activating more, and probably after a 'this world sucks' speech from Efrond, in a dungeon deep in the Vindale Forest, has Eluminaire unleash the Etherwind on Mysilia, wiping it from the map- Player fights Efrond and Eluminaire in the Etherwind- Somewhere in between Efrond casually reveals that acktually he's the bastard son of the Witch that's out to kill all the gods (and Elin) and he's just doing what he's told- Eluminaire loses control and from the surge of power, is unable to stop the Etherwind from blowing and it also destroys the Empire and the Mysilia remnant army- Efrond gets smashed with multiple Ether Diseases from the Etherwind and is suddenly all regretful and somehow manages to run to the Empire to secretly pass on the truth of the Etherwind, leaving Eluminaire behind- Eluminaire dies somehow, and big moth thing appears saying that without anyone to control the Etherwind, it will wipe absolutely everything as intended- Fiama suddenly gets the ability to control the Etherwind and does so, but she's now stuck down with the activated fossilised tree to keep it under control- Being an Elea, Fiama is immune to the Etherwind and tells Ashland to get out, but he refuses, so they stay down there forever while Ashland is dying from point-blank Ether exposure- X years pass for the player as they receive 'rehab' from so much Ether exposure (even if they're Elea)
is Noa going to add south tyris?>>50414921i am glad that he starts improving the dungeon crawler aspect of the game. it desperately needs more variety
>>50413518>>50413529You dipshits do realize there's an in-game feedback method, right? Is it really so hard to believe that maybe, just maybe, they whined on discord but then also sent feedback using the feedback tool?It's far more likely noa only listens to shit from the feedback form, since at least then he knows what garbage mods you're using to invalidate your shitty opinion
>>50415455Soon
>>50415219You can already read the main storyline in Japanese dev mode.>>50415455South Tyris, Zanan and Mayroon are already on the map, just under clouds. Honestly there's no need to add more map before the current playable field is populated.Note that E+ South Tyris is a completely made up fever dream, so expect something closer to Omake's portrayal.
Do we now by how much the good trait increases statue/shrine spawn rate?
>>50413927Isn't this a copypasta of the weeb who wears a kimono and walks around LA or something?>>504143801) I'm not holding E+ to any sort of standard, I'm just having fun. You should try it.2) "OMG PEOPLE WHO MAKE HUGE OVERHAUL MODS TO VIDEO GAMES ARE SPERGS?!?!"Yes, where have you been for the past... All of video game history?
>>50415581Yes.
>PEOPLE WHO MAKE HUGE OVERHAUL MODS TO VIDEO GAMES AREUsually have terrible taste.Zero understanding of game balance.Obsessed with their "great" idea and incapable of accepting any criticism of it.Surrounded by a gang of retards who kiss their ass because they ban everyone who doesn't.The larger the mod, the more pointless, useless, and inconsistent shit it contains. No exceptions. Why? Because an average "big" modder is an idiot who can't stop.That what makes them big. Not quality, not passion, not ideas. That one thing. Even if they start as good modders, they keep going until their work is completely ruined. But they're physically incapable of admitting it.So many games, so many mods, so few exceptions. They are karens of game modding.
>>50415733It's weird that you're acting like one over an opinion, it's like your the BPD woman of gaming.
stophavingmelties!!
Jurehandholdingnow!!
>>50415820best class/race to worship Jure?
>>50415581Because of all the people coming in claiming "Elin+ will fix everything".E+ didn't fix shit. It had a lot more content to entertain people with, but it was even more anti-fun than vanilla to the point custom was partially made to undo said anti fun changes. I mean, forbidding you from holding more than 100 plat and level up points just because he thinks you aren't spending them properly? Forcing investment because of "stingy players"? Docking your xp because you're not interested in his fanfic and just want to run around doing your own thing?Yeah, that'll fix things all right.E+ worked because it was the only game in town for English speakers. The reason the piss dog is will never touch Elin is because he would have actual competition.Why anyone would want to willingly put their modded experience at the mercy of one egoistic tard instead of putting together his own modpack is beyond me.>>50415733Starbound. Rimworld. Starsector. Ck3. A tard comes in, tries to capture as much of the modding scene as possible, entrenches himself with frameworks, forms a clique, causes drama. Story old as time.
>>50416073If Elin+ ever comes out it'll also get forked 100 times faster so you won't have to bother with the dev's faggotry.
>>50416073You know that mods aren't mandatory right?
>>50416073>Why anyone would want to willingly put their modded experience at the mercy of one egoistic tard instead of putting together his own modpack is beyond me.time
Hmm. So pretty much a pre-nerf Exile, aka Elona Exile?
>>50416211titstoobig
Doesn't sound so bad, but it's a spear. I guess it'd work out for someone wanting to dual wield this and the (real) Holy Lance?
>>50416226>>50416211is that from ayameduki races or a different mod
>>50416223If you're using Ayameduki's mods from Rimworld, you'd already know that they all have huge tits. Except for the Littleluna and the Kira Friends.
>>50416239>huge titsyuck
>>50416236It's from the Artificial Race mod that Ayameduki made for Elin. It brings in all the Aya races into Elin, with Storyteller Idea being a Goddess instead. Her interests are similar to Mani's in that you can just dump heavy pipes on her like you would for Mani.It also brings in a Silkiera Corporation shop into Mystilia, which sells some of the Ayameduki race weapons from Rimworld. They can be OP as heck if you really want to work on making them into a good material, but they are generally expensive (they tend to start from about 60k orens to nearly 1mil if you invest in the shop for high end materials to appear). These weapons won't drop from any of the Ayameduki race mobs, I'm pretty sure, so if you buy them and then Adamantite them and 'break the game balance' because of it, that's totally on you.
>>50416239Disgusting udders
>>50416211>>50416239Based massive titty mod, but they need to be (((BIGGER)))
>>50416253I should add that Idea of Chaos is like Eyth of Infidel in terms of what bonuses she gives you, in that no special Feat or anything, but bonuses to all the base stats starting from +5 each and Speed. Also if you hate that you have to worship Opatos to get the Golden Wife because no one else is able to hold stuff as much as her and willingly hold furniture as well, the Solark at least can do that too. Maybe some of the others can as well, especially their 'better' version in high level Nefias
>>50416288Tits to big, I'll stick with golden wife.
>>50416288wtf is a solark?
And so, until Yakasha of Oblivion and Elin of Harmony becomes Goddesses that the player can worship, it's back to the Eyth of Truth, for I've finished my cucking circuit of all the Gods and Goddesses.Though I can switch it up at any time, which God Artifact would you activate the Faction effect for under Eyth?
>>50416332Though written for Rimworld and probably most of it is written up by the guy who did the English translation for Ayameduki's mods based on whatever in-game text and stuff there were about them, it's probably better to refer to this:https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2839583685
>>50416348I will rape Lulwy until she regrets sending Eyth to the Void.
>>50416358She'd probably like it
>>50416211>>50416226>>50416288>open thread>see new race and weapons>"oh shit was there an update?">it's just someone's oc doughnut steel mod>"i-its totally not immersion breaking and balanced guys... ..."Thinking it's not even worth the ecopo from being put in the trash. Sad!
>>50416358I liked the ambiguity of Eyth being a god or not in Elona, I'm not so much of a fan of Eyth being a god. Then again, I also like the idea where in a world of active gods there is 1 that basically acts like god does in our world. Inactive and vague on if he exists or answers prayers. I mean game mechanic wise I don't know how you would do that but to me its interesting lore wise.
>>50416456You thought Noa would release new races with portraits that look like that? Noa will stick with his artist until the day his time with Elin ends.>>50416468What if the reason Demigods are around is because Lulwy tricked Eyth into having sex with 'life-like' machines made by Mani until the other gods, wondering where Eyth had disappeared to, walked into him drunk and naked surrounded by pregnant machines
public const int AI_Bladder = 5054; https://elin-modding.net/diff/c2263d9bc0fb9b214a8003c0e42aa0cd2005fb25#ea-23-245-nightly
>>50416588What is this?
>>50416607you can make an educated guess, no?
>>50416643My guess is that you're European.
>>50416643Just keep vagueposting and being generally unhelpful to your fellow anon. It brings out your true nature.
>>50416677>>50416688'm in the US but lol? You can tell from the URL that it's a diff of Nightly changes...don't need to highlight your lack of deduction
>>50416643The amount a NPC has to be in Hot Springs water to be considered Washed
>>50416588ANOOOOOOOOOO
>>50416588You can already pee in the bathtub and nothing got added, the line just got moved.
>>50416776why does it exist.
>>50416787Think it makes NPCs visit baths occasionally or something. Which are marked as toilets for some reason.Vampire bloodsucking is a descendent of AI_Fuck so i wouldn't think too much of these names.
I found a paper hammer, what to use it on? I already have paper wood i can duplicate, is it possible to get paper ingots in mass production scale? would paper hammering an ingot floor, then duplicating them, then laying paper floor and digging it up, give me paper ingots? I already have a paper tent too...
>>50416873You could have TWO paper tents. Or if you grabbed a Large Wagon for the space (and weight to train your Weightlifting), you could Paper Hammer it as well.
>>50416884oh i forgot to mentione i have a large wagon too, it holds all the gear i collect from nefias then i sell it at mey shoppe. but it doesn't have tent weight reduction or anything...i guess yeah another tent to hold the wagon would be good, or I could just use my original paper tent. really thought I can't find much use for paper hammers anymore. I looked it up and it seems I can make paper stones by crafting and hammering paper wood tools, and it seems the material dirt + digging was removed a while ago and nobody made a mod to restore itnothing for ingots either
>>50413540bumping
>>50416717>bro just read a bunch of numbersThis anon confirmed to be a bot or NPC IRL
>>50416928 (Me)Nevermind I just figured it out I have 2.28, time to upgrade to 2.28 E+pmgpgx
>>50416940>numbers>not the wordsyou're clinically retardeddo not reply to me again, brown
>>50416945>2.28 E+pmgpgxI guess I had a stroke, I meant to put 2.29 E+ CGX
>>50415455he said in patch notes a while back he might do it after 1.0(so never lol)it's not part of the main story
>>50416990If I remember correctly there isn't much down there anyway, even in Elona+, and CGX there isn't much down there.
>>50416954Here's your (You), Snowflake
>>50416588PISS WOLF HAS RETURNED!!! BREAK OUT THE PISS SOAKED AND UNWASHED SOCKS AND PANTIES BOYS!!!
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