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Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkaw
New child mechanics guide for Elona+: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NF
Elona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX
Extra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm
Elin EA (use a Steam Emulator like Goldberg): https://gofile.io/d/JiSjhh
Elin Wiki: https://ylvapedia.wiki
Elin Player Guide-Compilation: https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Player_Guides
Elin Modding resources/code: https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin.Docs
https://github.com/Elin-Modding-Resources/Elin-Decompiled

Previous Floor: >>50397015
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>>50417083
The edit makes it look like Noa DOESN'T see the EN side like that.
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>>50417095
Noa loves us
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Completely normal Elin player here. When is Noa-sensei going to add pissing when in fear? The entire community wants it!
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>>50417095
I can't do anything right.
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>>50417110
You call this music?!
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>>50417110
No, you can't. But that's what makes you among friends.
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>>50417106
Hopefully soon. It's basically free Disarm Trap exp.
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>>50417095
At least my comment about not being in the OP made it. Complaining always words :^)
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>>50417106
Oh hey Ano, didn't realize you were here.
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>>50417083
gofile is broken btw op
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>>50417222
>age 13
What makes her disappointed also I don't get the naming conventions in North Tyris, I once met a Little Girl named Jamal.
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>tfw using the no xp cap mod and hammering 100k casino chips at my turtle farm
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>>50417227
>What makes her disappointed
having to pay taxes probably
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>>50417227
she was probably born old, just another reason why old people farms and old people sex should be outlawed.
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I really appreciate whoever drew this map for Elona its very charming and helpful, unlike me.
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>>50417251
>jail is misplaced it should be more inline with Derphy.
>bad and vauge depictions of mountain ranges to make them look more like elevation than impassable mountains, which is fine, but not practical if you aren't using the roads
>minotaur lair, yeek lair, witches hut, and the academy are all missing
>also missing the two evil/spoopy castles but I can understand why.
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>>50417267
Isn't the Witch's Hut and Academy an Elona+ thing? The map looks more like for the Elona Mobile game than anything, really. Though I have no idea if the Elona Mobile game looks anything like that map.
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>>50417251
It's the mobile map, yeah.
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>>50417281
I don't know, I never really bothered with what was and wasn't Elona and Elona+ when the devs abandoned it in the state that it was in.
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I finally did the Nanasu quest, idk why anon was having a melty few threads ago she's pretty qt
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>>50417325
>devs
you mean noa
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>>50417392
noa is just ano when he is outside. All he did was rearrange his name and everyone bought it.
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>>50417400
>i can b your gentllesist angle, or the most eebil devol
noa playing both roles...kino...
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Miscreation upgrades giving skills instead of traits is so annoying.
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worship Jure
as a Chaos Shape
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>>50417325
>Finish 1.0 in 2008, game completable, Zeome beatable
>Stay on for 4 years until 2012 to add content and features until 1.22, last update comes with a big seasonal festival
>Run up against the limits of what shitty Japanese basic fork can do as an engine, decide to wind down development to work on something else in another engine
>Internet tards repeat an "abandoned" meme

There were three features in dev when vanilla wound down: pot for fusion (complete, but only 1 recipe of puff puff bread), south tyris (only smoke and pipe existed as a landmark), and artifact fusion (a bunch of symbols next to random merchants). All were bonus stuff that if they never existed, no one would be the wiser.

But abandoned. I suppose moving on is alien these days when milking a bajillion dlc from a successful title forever is standard.
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>>50417344
fairies are cute
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>>50417344
Poina beat my ass for far too long, I just beat her recently after showering her in cursed alcohol and Weakness and various debuff potions and she still took 3 tries and with the rest of the party dying. These fairies are powerful.
I WILL have all the cute fairies in my squad soon enough
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>>50417865
>There were three features in dev when vanilla wound down
Yup, abandoned.
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>>50417961
You try making a full on roguelike RPG in fucking HotSoupProcessor without abandoning it
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>>50417999
>HotSoupProcessor
Well I didn't know this existed until now so thanks for the heads up.
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>>50417999
Do you know if Etherwind has been canned for good? I know Shade is RIP due to a hard drive crash but he really hasn't said anything about Etherwind.
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Why is this dumbass complaining when hes fire immune.
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Mermaid Race
think about it
>need to be Wet constantly
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I made a thing.
https://spinthewheel.io/wheels/NO5xlkAo0WL8JT6gkPqzcz0xJmU9MA%3D%3D
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>>50418067
That sounds funny
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>>50418067
Unless you're going to suggest that the Player version of a Mermaid is totally different to normal Mermaids, there are stats and stuff for them already:
https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Bestiary/Mermaid

Assuming that a playable Mermaid is exactly the same, that'd mean the Player will:
- Gain Feats 30% faster (Rare Race Feat effect)
- Have no Waist or Feet slots, but gets +15 DV and +5 PV to compensate
- Weakness to both [Man Bane] and [Fish Bane]
- Can be sheared for Scale Fiber

Is that a good compromise for the Player Mermaid?
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>>50418074
Thanks, I hate it...
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>>50418109
Should have a "spear, arrows, and javalins do 20% more damage" debuff for ebin spear fishing meme
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modders losing their minds because Noa keeps programming as if he's still using HSP and throwing away all the object oriented approach and modularity that C# allows
another monday...
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>2025/12/08 吸血鬼、A.I.R.追加
http://amaebiworld.web.fc2.com/rkgk/elin/elin_replace.htm
dude updated randomly again today
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>>50418198
>throwing away all the object oriented approach
His C# makes extensive use of virtual inheritance though. Alas, this is one of the few games where ECS would be much better than inheritance.
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>>50418109
>Have no Waist or Feet slots, but gets +15 DV and +5 PV to compensate
what a shitty trade off
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>>50418053
Being immune to fire doesn't mean it can't FEEL uncomfortable
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>>50418053
If you have Lesser Immunity you still feel the pain of the burn but no you can't die from it. Greater Immunity means you don't feel the pain at all.
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what the fuck is a bibimbap
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>>50418524
Bibimbaballs
It's basicallly just a Korean rice bowl with mixed veggies and some meat
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>>50418297
You say that, but have you looked at the code for DramaManager or DramaOutcome?
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My Melilith is constantly spawning free spellbooks in her inventory. Is this intended? She reads them too, although they're kinda wasted this way so I'm taking them away for my own use.
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>>50418723
maybe it's her job
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>>50418736
No, she has Gardening/Meditation. She even spawns books while riding me.
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>>50418864
It's pretty much her 'default AI', so to speak. Prior to recruiting her, that's what she would do as well at the Cursed Manor, start reading random books. She'll even level her Literacy and stuff from it, getting exp for Feat Points, though it doesn't mean that she'll learn new spells.
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>>50418864
>she even spawns books while riding me
Sounds like she's getting bored with you.
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Official fox PCC doko?
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>>50418973
Not needed, adding PCC graphics is easy and there are already good mods for this.
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>>50418231
Is there an updated pre-packaged release somewhere?
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A shame we can't bless stacks of stuff now.

>>50410944
>Kyrias
What's that?

>>50411981
Current Mega version is 23.243.4

>>50417230
Why a turtle farm?
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>>50419827
Turtles are Paladins of Jure so they can Lay on Hands so you can not die from exhaustion.
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>playing Elona+ CGX
>Elona+ is 2.28
>find out there is a 2.29fix
>download it
>merge folders
>elochatcgx no longer works
I that sucks, there were a handful of people still on there that I would talk to now and then.
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>>50419332
Yeah but not having a fox PCC when you have a fox race in your game is just weird
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How many settlements do people establish and what do you use it for?

My Meadow is a honey farm with caravan masters, Hill Cave is currently a berry farm and Vernis is kinda a museum/ Gold Snow Putit & Black Widow ranch with an empty farm.

About to get all Vernis map unlocked.
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>>50419948
I put every non wageslave npc in meadow
Vernis tottaly ignored
One specialized farming plot
One specialized beach sailor treasure hunter plot
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How do you see what level your allies are? You level them up by unlocking skills and having them train in towns, right?

>>50420115
Which NPCs would you consider wageslaves?
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>>50420282
>wageslaves?
farmers
sailors/captains
no idea if any other jobs are good
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For armor should I favor attribute increases or damage reduction and why?
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>>50419827
robot girl w/gunsword
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>>50420684
Oh, she's already riding me.
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>>50420444
be naked
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>>50421175
I do that when I go home, it's not really helpful outside of that.
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I thought you needed taming for milk to give decent stats to babies? Or is that shit only relevant in the like +10 milk range or whatever? Just fed my new ID mage two of vernas and hes got like 70 magic 56 will. Not bad pre adventure license earlygame.
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>>50419726
Are we really so lazy we can't do this?
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>>50422204
Yes, do it for me or make an AI do it for me right MEOW!!!
Also, at this point if you don't know how to do a 8bit sprite art on some level you should not be allowed to graduate high school
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What's up with paralysis potions? They only stop most enemies for about 1 turn.
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>>50422248
you're throwing them at enemies that either have high perception or are just getting really lucky on their perception rolls that diminish the amount of turns they are paralyzed for.
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This game needs battlefuck mechanics
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>>50422204
No, that's what I did when I built my load order and overrides around the previous pack the creator released.
Rather use an updated version of that and avoid too many visual changes in an ongoing game triggering my tisms.
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>>50422365
make it yourself
https://gitgud.io/aoinasuko/morelovinlibrary
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>>50420444
bump
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What's the difference between "Generates Shockwave" and "Generates Earthquake"? I mean, I know what Earthquake is but what the hells shockwave do? Just..smaller earthquake or...?
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>>50422910
sound damage
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hmm
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>>50422910
basically a sound earthquake or a loud earthquake, everything rattles and you might hear a low drone or some sort of lout whoosh or noise, if you live in a bit city you'll get them now and then due to the skyscrapers.
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>>50422910
One creates a 3x3 physical damage aoe about the target. The other only appears on the Opatos hammer and literally casts the 11 tile radius earthquake.
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Next wish do I ask for yet another speed ring or a railgun, or a monster ball so I can try to capture a high level mob for shearing...
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>>50422924
He's a norland, not a cat
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what's the best END food? I recruited a fairy but she got like 19hp
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>>50423010
9 out of 10 times the answer is burger
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There is NO reason for feywood trees to cost TEN fertility what the hell
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In Elona what is more important or powerful in food?
>A +7 fruit sherbet (Rank: 5)
or
>A +5 fruit cake (Rank: 8)
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>>50423033
Gay Green energy is never efficient.
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>>50422204
nta but I have to go down the list and try to re-save almost all of them until I stop getting duplicate file warnings because I don't know what updated because its not in any particular order that would make sense
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>>50417251
Kinda fucked up that they put the jail in the middle of desert lmfao, is that what its even supposed to be? A desert or a wasteland?
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>>50417251
Does this map kinda look like a warped version of Europe or is it just me?
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This bitch will not die.
The whole party leveled up
She keeps healing and doing fireball AoEs while also buffing herself with haste and this brightness of life buff, which I assume is giving her infinite regen.
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>>50423142
huh, what mod?
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>>50423148
nvm it was the Brightness of Life dungeon status effect from SpecialNefia mod
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>>50423037
Wiki says that +X gives speed potential and rank:X increases the XP values that the food innately gives. I guess the direct XP from high rank is better since speed mostly comes from AP anyways.
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>>50422986
Why is he a cat then?
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>When the Neckhunt triggers and she steals the kill
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>>50423249
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ether disease
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>>50422040
usually people are talking about stats in 200-400+ range when they are trying for super pets. you can reach it pretty early by surviving to wave 20-30 in war quests, then spamming pots on the bosses. I never bothered with it because my team, despite their constant deaths, are okay enough for most lvl150 nefias.
I doubt the story is even designed for 200+ stat range
>>50423258
that's a lot of pets not doing anything, maybe debuffers or summoners ? eureka should be putting in more work
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>>50423258
idk how you can deal with clashing artstyles on the portraits
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>>50423366
I don't have a point stick up my ass so it doesn't matter to me.
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>>50423427
Lol
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>>50423181
alright, but whats the big tiddy dragon mod called?
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>>50423427
>/jp/ is a shitty grass shack
this image gets better the longer i look at it
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>>50423568
Ayademuki... how do you not know of the famous rimworld modder...
search for aya on workshop
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>>50423634
not everyone plays rimworld anon
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>>50423427
Tiny-ass Meadow grass crackshack my beloved
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>>50423636
lies!!??!!?
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>>50423634
ok thanks, so she is part of the artificial race mod. I have it but I still haven't encountered that enemy.
I know about those mods in rimworld but I never used them. I don't like ruining the spacecowboy aestethic with big tiddy anime girls
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Be honest, would you like living in the Elona/Elin setting with all the good/bad things that came with it?
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>>50423944
Elona? Sure.
Elin? No, I don't want to accidentally touch a used doujinshi and become pregnant despite being a man.
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>>50423944
Depends, am I the player character or a random guy?
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>>50423976
Adventurer npc
>>50423954
Dang
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>>50423954
Imagine using a magazine to jerk off then you accidentally get yourself pregnant
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>>50423944
>Elin
yeah, it seems like heaven compared to real life
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>>50424014
You want to get taxed?
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>>50424058
I already have to pay VAT which is basically robbery
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>>50423944
Yes. The game mechanics are not indicative of the setting as a whole.

The overall bent of history may be extremely nihilistic, but for your average dude so long as you don't live in a tumultuous time life is pretty ok.

Sure, you have your occasional world ending apocalypse where the gods decide to purge all life or you duck up yourselves and cause a volcanic/nuclear winter or release a death bacteria because the people responsible were little shits about taking responsibility, but those were reasonably spaced and it's not like people irl are better.
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>>50423944
I don't want to pay taxes
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>>50424274
>Sure, you have your occasional world ending apocalypse where the gods decide to purge all life
not like they are even good at that since you can have undead that lived before the apocalypse
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Do genes with negative levels actually hurt you? Like if a gene gives <Memory of Spell> (-50) what does that actually mean?
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>>50424391
negative level does hurt you yes
Y'molonac has Beast of Possibility -2 and it is like -2 gene slot
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>>50424407
So if you give them a spell with a gene and it's -big number will they basically be wasting turns casting an extremely shitty negative rank of that spell?
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>>50424355
Ashland, Fiama, string this man up by his testicles and force him to drink 500 bottles of dirty water
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>>50424433
i think i misunderstood what you said
it is either
<Memory of Spell>
<Memory of Skill/Attribute> (level)
<Memory of Body slot>
<Memory of Feat>
the spell one doesn't have level
and I don't think it could go negative for Skill/Attribute either
about spell priority it depends on the AI i think
you could refer to the table at the end of this link
https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:DNA_List
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>>50424457
Nyooooooo
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>>50423033
Well they do generate 20 units of electricity each.
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>>50423366
for me, it's when the portraits match but are angled at a slightly different degree
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I played elona plus 2.06 before this and decided to come to Custom-GX. im enjoying it so far but WHAT IN THE FUCK IS THAT CRITICAL ANIMATION? WHY DOES IT EAR RAPE ME? WHY DOES A RANDOM SPRITE OF THE LITTLE GIRL FLY ON SCREEN?

in short how do i cut it off, ive been all through the settings and im too retarded to find it
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>>50425419

Im an even bigger retard, its the gauge action auto triggering

anyway how do i get rid of the new animation annihilating my sense?
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>>50425441
You don't like it when your little girl limit breaks?
The picture is specifically there to tell you what pet is limit breaking if you have more than 1 without having to pause and look through the log.
And yeah, the sounds they use are literal ear-rape. I actually have a quick question for you, does elochatcgx work for you? What version of E+ (not CGX) are you using?
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>>50425493

Im using 2,29 for mine. Most of the time i could see a character flash when they would limit break then it would play so i could typically tell. The ear rape is absolutely nuts tho

might leave the picture on for clarity but man that sound effect blows my ears to hell everytime

also of course i love her limit breaking and wiping whatever was on the other side off it off the face of the earth, just wish it didnt break my ears
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>>50425520
So does elochatcgx work for you?
I might go into the file and actually edit the volume of the limit break sounds sometime this week and if you want I can post them here.
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>>50425541

Yeah it works for me, i can see deaths and wishes. I never really touch the chat that much though

Also thanks btw
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>>50425553
Huh, weird, I'm always getting the "need an internet connection error" when I try to chat in it. Where did you download your Elona+?
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>>50425560

https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/releases/tag/2.29.1.0

^ Custom GX download

https://mega.nz/file/0HMkkDQa#Nb-0hBDOkbLAo9k7iHSKS6rMPYgTRLdH-Bpi0OOJM3E

^ elona plus Mega link
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>>50425580
I don't need the links, I'm aware of the github but a huge thank you anyway. You helped me figure out my netcode problem and now I can chat again.
Apparently the netcode is not tolerant to copypasting to update. I could describe the bug but the gist is:
>playing on 2.28 E+ with CGX
>everything works
>downloading the update for CGX
>see that there is apparently a 2.29 E+
>"Oh I should update"
>download
>drop 2.29 in Elona folder to merge and replace
>chat just stopped working
Also for the audio edits, it is xmas time for me so if I don't get to it by the end of this week I'll post them sometime next week, you know how it is being busy and all, I'm probably also gonna edit the cicada sound as well during summer because that sound literally is worse than the limit break noise
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>>50425634

Yeah I appreciate it man ill lurk in the threads and see it at some point probably, figured when you said you would edit them that that meant after christmas or something. I didn't have any chat issues i guess because i fresh installed around a hour or 2 ago and just started doing stuff on CGX.

Big thanks though man, im liking the other CGX changes so far though compared to what i was playing
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>>50425677
Are you still around I need you for a quick audio test.
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>>50423427
missing the trash (threads) all around
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every time I go visit the moongaytes I feel a crippling sense of inadequacy walking though all these cool bases then mine are all just slapped together and expanded as I gain resources slowly
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every time i visit the moongate it's always greenwood or a deathtrap designed to drown my low level character
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every time I/i visit mungaets in Elona I feel a violated because I always step into a panty collection and some high level monster or trap that then murders me.
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Elin needs invasions.
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player "notes on the ground" and ability to meet other player "shadows" in towns when?
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>>50426830
>notes on the ground
Well we already have the corpses.
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>>50426830
How is that even supposed to work? Isn't 99% of what we see randomly generated?
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>>50426872
>send packet to server
>next anon to enter a nefia has a chance to spawn said message saved into server
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Would it be possible to have some chess-like multiplayer arena? I think it should be possible. Of course Noa being capable of it or caring is another thing.
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>>50426899
pvp autism is cringe
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>>50426915
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>>50426830
>Meet player 'shadows' in town
>One of the player 'shadows' that is generated in your town is one of those people with 1000x exp and drop rate modded characters with extreme end game gear and stats
>They also deliberately make sure they have the 'Enemy of All Living Things' Ether Disease
>End up with a player 'shadow' that is designed to annihilate entire towns if they appear, possibly the PC as well if the Ether Disease also makes them hostile to them
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>>50427470
just have stat/level caps and filter feats/mutations
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>>50426830
I thought GOMPS died?
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>>50427514
Yeah...
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>>50427470
their stats would obviously be capped by your fame level. probably
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>>50426930
Thank god the chinese soured Noa on the idea of adding gacha into the game
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What do Roran pantsu smell like?
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>>50428441
Strawberry if the Soup of Wonderland is to believed.
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>>50423944
I play Omake Variants and OG elona and I can say it's a wonderful place to live. This is from a no pet, 1 life, no time travel, Prostitute Goddess that believes in no Gods because she is a God herself. You can live in a nice house, eat nice food (eggs if you want power) and play game on a Computer you buy from the shop. You just need to fuck shopkeepers with your beautiful body for money and do some escorting jobs to raise your karma to positive.
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Is the Vampire race they added any good at anything, or is it just a worse Succubus that can transform into a slightly less minmaxed Fairy like I'm reading it as?
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>cant find a table that doesnt look retarded with alchemy tool on top of it
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>>50429696
hold shift to adjust the tool's position when placing it
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>>50430240
It doesn't fit either aesthetically or pysically
the problem is the alchemy tool looks fucking retardedated
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>>50426513

Went to work last night, im back after sleeping. Yeah im down post it whenever
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>>50429696
Does this look retarded?
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>>50430764
Looks comfy.
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lewd
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>>50431157
what does it do
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>>50431219
no clue it's prob boss/adventurer only?
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is there a better way to get plat or are you really supposed to spam music quests to get 2k of them every year
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>>50431319
The alt methods are filling a base with treasure hunters and giving them lots of maps, or spam monster den/kill X monsters quests. Aquli Teola tends to bias towards them. Sell off your fame if you just want the fastest clears for coins, but music quest spam really is the top method for plat if you make the investment in it.
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>>50431379
ye I tried aquli teola but there's like no good vendors and money income was pretty shit compared to spamming music
guess 1/3 of every year will now just be spent in palmia
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I think trying a thief that grows into spellcasting was a bad idea
all the spells I ever get are dark/poison, which everything and it's mom seems to resist
shid sugs
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>>50431408
shadow arrow is the best spell in the game
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>>50431387
The other option is to just sprint to the bottom of low-level nefias ignoring the monsters once you're overleveled for them. Even slower than quest spam but you can do it anywhere.
>>50431408
Shadow Arrow is fantastic and your third domain is Chaos, which is a domain so good it's basically an auto-pick on anything that can pick extra domains.
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>>50431421
that's not ice arrow
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o the new mob is qt
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>>50431562
Marriage with spoder.....
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>>50431421
>best spell
>when mind bolt exists
lmao
o
lmao
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>>50431473
>>50431698
At higher level scaling blind is a much better damage mitigator on any physical enemy compared to a slight slow from ice or a very spottily applied and short duration confused or asleep.

I have all those spells and use them all extensively, but shadow arrow is still the best by far
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>>50431741
>caring about physical enemies after the first year
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different classes and races have different play style and strengths, wow, who'da thunk?
you guys are autistic and retarded
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>>50431767
>Different classes and races have a slightly different path to a mega-farm and slinging debuffs endgame
fixed
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>>50431755
Talk to me after you've run into an 800 speed level 2,000 murderball in the void
Hell, applying silence is piss easy compared to dealing with some of the physical kits at high scaling, even a non-elite lizardman boxer is a run-ender
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>spider has 2 fucking slots
uh
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>going through a piss easy lvl 150 nefia without a problem
>just braindead right-clicking with debuffs/spells and spamming melee bumps
>CLANG CLANG CLANG SCHWING SCHWING
>HUH-
>DEATH
okay this is pretty fucking retarded, I need to watch out for these parries and chase skills now? my Dodge is so high im dodging most attacks but this shit negates it all? what's the point?
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>>50432193
>what's the point?
making you finally play mage
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>>50432206
but I had exclusively played warmage in Elona, why is melee still a meme?
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>>50432235
ask Noa
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holy shit the lore drop in the new home quest
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If I want to build around guns, should I start with Gunner, Inquisitor, or some other class and staple guns onto it later? The Vampire chat in the last thread is making me think of doing Bloodborne/Code Vein bullshit by being an Executioner or Gunner.
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Erm
Seems promising?
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>>50432869
>danger 135130
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>>50432881
It's a rookie, don't tell me you feel threatened?
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>>50432881
They're just a very cautious person. See, they just really made sure to powerlevel hard until they reached level 135,130 before deciding to finally sign up at the Adventurer's Guild, so that they won't get ganked by clowns throwing stones and kobolds in the fields.
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Does restore body potion +10 when blessed have ANY difference between blssed restore body potion +0 ? Both give same amount of +25% stats?
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How fat does my GK need to be to carry Lulwy's FAT 3600s ass out of the water? At 2800 carry weight she wont do it.
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there really is no other game like this huh
to let me do stupid fun stuff
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At what quality would I get more profit selling my honeycomb outright over making it into wine?
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>>50433178
I tested my +8 combs recently and it was still worth wining. It's a shame making sugar first takes so much stamina.
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If 'm riding a cat (the god pet) what wearpon should I give it/her?
Double shields ? goes unconscious too fast...
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>>50433250
would you ride a cat irl?
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>>50433265
Don't you know they come equipped with the V8 Purrengine ?
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>>50432235
Noa is finally standing up to the Human Warrior menace and making you embrace magic and silly class/race combos as a concept
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Slime Race
Can equip anything in any slot. But only gets % of the equipment bonus. Like Chaos Shape, it can increase the number of equipment slots it has.

Literally a blob of equipment.
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>>50433329
there already are slimes in game and they dont have slots... :(
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>>50432950
honestly mostly sane
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>>50432505
Centaur/Inquisitor of Mani
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>>50432193
>>50432235
>Waaaaah I cripplingly overspecialised my character and have no backup plan when meeting a counter
>Baaaaw I didn't bother to gear properly on a gear dependent archetype
>Archetype broken!!!!!one!!!!

Guess what? When melee gets buffed, that means the enemies get them too. And unlike you, they actually gear properly in their equipment definitions to take advantage of them.

This is behaviour that would get you rightly killed on any other roguelike. Problem exists between chair and keyboard.

Throw shit. Incapacitate with statuses. Reach attack. Shadow slip. And much more.
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>>50429365
Slut!
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Thief buffs doko
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>>50433534
30 luck not good enough for you?
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what is field effect
is it the same as that recent special nefia mod
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something seems amiss?
only 4 levels, is that the cap, even with the uncap mod? i suppose it would be 'OP' have crafting lvl 200 from dismantling 100k chips in a day? but just spamming sleep and splitting in 1000 stacks is mind numbing
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>>50433442
What is the counter against mage characters again? I seem to have forgotten.
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>>50433705
I guess antimagic, which only one monster even spawns with.
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>>50433660
Welcome to craft grinding.
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>>50433712
Doesn't those prevent teleportation?
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>>50433705
Resistances, antimagic, eye enemies that instantly nuke all your mp, dim, silence, confusion. Probably some more I forgot.

Any monster which has equipment can have resistances and antimagic.
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>>50422676
Anyone done anything with this?
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>>50382258
Seems there's a mod out but it's rather rough around the edges. Missing assigned crafting station and the default beach parasol is too big for the character. Believe there's a folded paper parasol/umbrella among the junk sprites that could be used instead though.
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>when you've spent an hour shoving your mushroom into your bases trainer to try and get him to make a clone of himself and all hes given you is milk
im tired boss
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>>50435883
maybe try with a woman instead
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Are you supposed to be able to kill Forshizzle? Dudes at 0 HP and refuses to die.
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>>50436197
he probably has mana body? drain his mana
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this bug is insane
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>>50436421
wtf is it
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>>50432193
They buffed shields and martial arts (via claws/chakrams and such) because prior to it, if you were to ask 'what should I use as melee?', it was almost always 'go two-handed'. Dual Wield? Still kind of has the issue of 'can't hit for shit' (though these days not as bad as it used to be). Shields? You were pretty much dropping your DPS for some extra DV/PV; if you were using it for the enchants, you might've as well have gone Dual Wield instead. Giving an incredibly fast pet like Younger Cat Sister an Earth Hammer to Earthquake spam was super popular.

Now? If you did the same thing, you experience what you did. If the enemy carried a Shield, they could Deflect and Counter you. Some weapons like Chakrams (for Martial Arts) and Parrying Daggers (for Short Swords) also allowed you to Parry and Counter as well. Pretty much all Martial Arts weapons allow you to do multiple attacks, so there's no real reason why you wouldn't want to go Dual Wield Martial Arts these days if you're maining Martial Arts. Chances are, the thing that you died from is probably a Martial Arts enemy, like a Lizardman or Minotaur Boxer. They will eat any two-handed ungabunga character like crazy, to the point where the old 'Younger Cat Sister with two-handed Earth Hammer' build just makes her self-destruct against those enemies. If something is carrying a Polearm or any other weapon that allows for 'remote attacks' and also can Deflect/Parry Counter, they can do that to enemies two tiles away as well.

There are counters to those. It's pretty much either Magic as mentioned - because Deflect/Parry only counters physical attacks, ranged weapons (but from a safe distance), or... use a shield. Specifically, a shield with the 'It forbids enemy retaliation' enchant on it. I think it can also show up on Arm slot armour as well, but more commonly on shields. If you want to ungabunga two-handed style, you'd have to go look for that specific enchant on Arm slot armour.
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>>50436520
>Dual Wield? Still kind of has the issue of 'can't hit for shit'
It's way easier to hit shit with dual wield than 2h
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>>50436421
What the fuck is going on here.
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I haven't played Elin in about a year. What were the most notable additions? How's the game's trajectory looking?
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>>50436255
How do I do that without sucking Horome's fat tits or outlasting him and RAIN OF SPIDERS
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>>50436935
be yourself (or a mage)
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>>50436766
Game's trajectory is going about as well as can be expected. No huge red flags, no meltdowns, and Noa is still going at a steady pace.
In the last year, almost everything added has been relatively inconsequential with a few new quests, underwater nefia, a few side quests, and an assload of new items. A good 30% of the updates were balance adjustment and bug fixes just to make the core more solid.
In summary, moving forward with sturdy steps, but not going very fast.
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>>50436942
I'm a warmage. How do I do that?
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>>50436958
can't you just slow, silence him and then just murder him by spamming holy bolt for like 2 minutes
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>>50436961
Debuffs aren't really leveled here.
I've got a level 96 Magic Arrow, 110 Magic, 156 PV, and I legitimately cannot outpace him.
I also have scaling off.
Giving it another try, and as it turns out this fat fuck has an MP pool about 20x the size of his HP pool and I have 600 and a prayer.
Does Noa really expect people to beat this at 35?
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>>50436520
so now melee is even worse to play and mages get a free fucking easy mode pass still? not what I asked for with melee rework -_-
if enemies are going to be buffed with the same skills and enchantments, there has been a net 0 improvement to melee!
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>>50436999
His mp pool is just his HP after HP runs out.
You don't need to use anything special, just keep hitting it till it until mp goes to 0. if Eye Of Mana from Elona+ were added, it would make it so easy and fun.
You could explode bosses with millions in hp if you cast eye of mana on them, the overcast damage ramped up slowly but it was guaranteed kill (assuming you survive that long)
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>>50437025
Brother, I don't think you understand what I'm saying.
Even with what I have, I DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH.
I blasted this fucker with EVERYTHING, topped myself off, blasted him again, and he wasn't even at half.
By my calculations. I riddled his ass with 20k in magic arrows (and yes TO HIM not spiders) and he still was above half.
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>>50437025
Nevermind.
He died.
With 80% of his health bar.
He just died.
I don't know what was going on.
I don't want to know.
But he's dead.
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I really don't want this creepy asshat in my base, but I forget to go to vernis to get my book copies constantly. :(
#justretardthings
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>>50437042
He is best husbando. And nice source of rapid cast juice.
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>>50437042
Kettle is the creepiest, the dude is living for several eras and his stats aren't even in the hundreds
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>>50437078
maybe he's using a limiter
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>>50437071
>rapid cast juice
wat
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>start picking a lock
>realize its going to kill you
>cant manually stop
good shit a+ 11/10
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>>50437119
If you're at the point that picking a fucking lock will kill you, then that's a definite (You) problem.
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>>50436946
Thanks. The patch notes are so exhaustively detailed I couldn't get much of an answer. I think I'll start over from scratch as a priest
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>>50437119
Right click?
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>>50436197
Spoiler alert!
He has mana body 3 like wraith+executioner (50% mana damage resist, i.e. when his HP is low, all the damage he takes to mana is halved). And his mana is 500.
>>50436935
>How do I do that without sucking Horome's fat tits or outlasting him and RAIN OF SPIDERS
Spoiler alert!
I don't think the gods can help you here. He has bane and inquisitor's feat, so unless you can resist bane (idk if you can), you're on your own.
His 180 base speed and immune to gravity doesn't help either.

Funny enough, his staff is a reference to the Dragonlance series and probably his red robe too.
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>>50435241
no, not enough cumbrains with technical knowhow to put together a mod for bare bones sprite sex
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>>50437444
Again, I dropped over 20k in damage and he was still walking.
Then I dropped 10k and he died.
So I have zero idea what juice he's shooting.
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>>50433394
>Centaur
Oh shit that's a thing now. Wonder if someone's got Umamusume parts for the PCC somewhere, I couldn't find them in the workshop, just two NPCs and near as I can tell you can't use those to get player features. I can try using dog/fox tails until then but it won't really look right...
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Is there a way to get a lot of iron ore fast? I need like 1k for building.
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>>50437572
all I need is a system where a dialogue option starts a "scene" where the sprites bump against each other, some sfx/bg voice plays, little hearts and maybe motion lines. have a little ui popup of sex pngs if it finds one for the target mob in the sex folder. I'd generate scenes for all of my booba characters.
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How do I make him do a violence
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Does the Eat > Dirty Water > Vomit > Repeat really work?
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>>50438187
Ye but you can only do it few times per sleep before getting anorexia.
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How come mage is the most brainless class?
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prove it
kill 50 mages
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>>50438268
Because they tend to overcast and kill their selves before getting a chance to double their stats
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>>50438108
Try calling him a robot slur
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>Take a break
>Get taxed in yet another game
I CANT ESCAPE TAXES
MYSILIA I CURSE YOUUUUU
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What's the highest max fertility you got on your farms?
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Why is Gaki the only waifu the artists draw lewds of? Also, jesus christ how are so many japs so gay. The amount of Loytel thirst in the jp side is extreme
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>>50438496
Thats just women?
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be the change you want to see. Pick up a pencil
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>>50438392
I shall use the racism stick
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>at least 3 people were used to make this.
Holy shit Rorans are fucking crazy. Is this what they were feeding me all along?
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Why isn't my travel skill going up wtf
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Are Fortune Drum rewards predetermined? I was savescumming to see what the odds were like and I noticed I got the exact same rewards in the exact same order each time.
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>>50438948
Explain these numbers. How does a +3 bonus become +73?
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>>50439378
Seed-based.
You can't reroll, but you can reload to return the tickets if you didn't get what you wanted.
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>>50439378
The RNG of what you win is set when you enter the cell with the Fortune Drum. The seed changes when the month rolls over so if you didn't get the prize you wanted that month you can load and then spin again next month.
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>>50439388
The stars are a lie.
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>>50439378
>>50439405
Also note that this is per cell, so if you can zip to each town fast enough you can check each place's wheel that month. This does *not* apply to the scratch-off tickets or the gacha machines that use the gold/silver/copper coins though, you can reload for those and get new stuff every time.
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>>50438948
flat damage bonus and accuracy are global
probably his gloves slot gives him that number
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>>50438399
Taxation is theft
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i wish we have an actual bard class with unique mechanic
pianist is just a meme non combatant class
sound domain is nice i guess but i am still a mage
kill kill piano is a meme
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>>50439603
I thought Noa was just going to make the bard spacts unlock with high music levels
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>>50439603
There is a mod on the workshop that adds a bard playstyle. No idea if it's any good tough, never tried it.
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>>50439603
>>50439618
Noa is (probably) waiting to see if he adds another points bar just for combat abilities so you don't have to use stamina.
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>>50439603
Pianist is the secret throwing class since panties and mics can make for potent throwing weapons
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>>50439603
Just DIY with mods.
Change your class to a bard, give yourself feats and domains you like and play.
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>>50439603
>>50439699
The actual bards in game (Farris, Barrich) have song stances that decrease max mp while in effect, so that's not the reason.

As >>50439806 said, DIY is not hard.
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>>50439603
If you play music with an instrument made of a material that has damage types, you can cause the related status: e.g. playing a topaz instrument will set everyone listening on fire.

There's your bard class, get a bunch of different instruments.
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How much of this game is basing vs combat
Whenever I've played an rpg that has houses I just throw things down anywhere if they're needed for whatever to raise my lvl higher
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>>50440587
you can play it 2% basing 98% combat
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>>50440587
you can play it 98% basing 2% combat
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>>50440587
you can play it 96% sexing
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>>50440587
best way to get rich and strong in this game:
sit in your base and fish
sit in your base and farm
sit in your base and cook
sit in your base and hit training dummy
sit in your base and gallow yourself
sit in your base and do easy delivery quests
sit in your base and do crafting/hammer loops
sit in your base
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>>50440744
yeah and then it's year 599
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>farming flowers
>have them all on my little girl
>she fucking vanishes for some reason
>doesn't appear in "call back my ally" list
>go home
>she's there but all the flowers are gone
The fuck would cause this to happen? Everything else in her inventory is fine. It's only the flowers that vanished into nothing.
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>>50440993
she might have dumped them into a shared chest, nothing in ctrl+f?
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>>50441001
Nah, only a few in the chest from earlier.
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>>50440587
The Vampire and Succubus race can skip a ton of the basing by just finding, recruiting and feeding from/fucking strong NPCs. Vampire in particular doesn't even need to make regular food for themselves, and if you just reroll til your starter pet and the elf lady at the starting base have good traits you're set from minute 1.
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>>50430463
Sorry I got busy but I want you to review this for quality as well as if it should be quieter or louder.
>original
https://files.catbox.moe/2s99g9.wav
>redone
https://files.catbox.moe/mwq7gw.wav
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Did they remove the ability to copy chest configuration or do I have a mod interfering with it? It was under "config" in chest settings I think but now I just get change name/exclude from crafting and if in inventory, exclude from auto dump.
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>>50441048
Np, bud :^)
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What cheat mods are ethical?
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>>50441054
see abilities of your pets
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>>50440758
You waste most time running around on the world map so this would actually be faster.
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Dude's got his rod out with a porno mag
Man to man, I don't wanna interrupt him jacking off
But I do need to get down those stairs...
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Why is my MP so variable? I'll keep everything the same, then my MP is down 20
I'll swap gear our and swap it back and my MP is lower than it used to be
What in the ever loving fuck goes into these calculations?
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>>50441145
Do you by any chance pray to certain cat?
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>>50441150
Nah, I pray to her ex BF. Even then that'd be MP consumed, not max MP
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>>50441128
>waste time
No such thing - time progression is only good
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>>50441128
nah I worship Lulwy
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>>50439406
Think he's asking about the hit bonus BUDDY
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>>50440910
Yeah, it's a painting.
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>>50441186
ohhhhhhhh
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>>50441054
Allies auto-act with you so you can have a traveling band.
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>>50441145
You probably got badtouched by a ghost or rat. Go see a healer.
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>>50441194
Also nah, my stats aren't lowered.
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>>50441145
Do you have an equipment that says something about 'it has anti-magic particles'? While it makes magic less effective on you, it also reduces your Mana.
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>>50441200
Not on me, no.
Also does antimagic affect getting healed too?
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Is there a way to make the shockwaves weapons have as an enchant not hit neutral/friendlies? Not as in group members but like the soldiers in war quests, or cats that wont fugoff.
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>>50441054
Adding some feat at the start of the game if I play a non OP class or race and Farming Legs 2 no matter what.
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>>50441048
enable advanced options
I don't fucking know why he put them under advanced options when I asked him for this very basic thing
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>>50441223
Ah fuck I had experimental turned on and didn't realise there was another one on a different goddamn page.

Thank you.
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>>50441203
All magic. If you want healing it's bandages, potions, rods and praying to Jure.
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>>50441203
Yeah, that anti-magic effect not only reduces damage from magic, it also makes buffs (and debuffs?) and healing spells on that character weaker. It also makes your non-elemental attacks stronger as well.
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So the only real items worth a damn in 100+ nefia are the boss drops, right? Since the boss, some evolved, and big daddies are the only ones that actually scale?
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>>50441247
you can steal good stuff from evolved/boss/shiny enemies too.
i have a set of armor I can wear with high stealth and high pickpocket (like 150+) and I can cast invis and steal mid combat
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>friendly spider queen lays cocoons
>cocoons hatch into enemies
uhhhhhh
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if you are playing melee what's the counter to pursuer spawning 10 sound hounds and permastunning you? leaving and never coming back?
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>>50439603
Just mod the game by not playing the game and imagine the whole thing in your head.
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How the fuck do you get the rune recipes now?
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>>50441412
home quest where you capture/kill the sea dragon
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>>50441417
Are you shitting me?
Whys this autistic fucking cunt hate player agency so fucking much?
>oh right
>japanese corpo slave husk
God fucking dammit.
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>>50441431
maybe you can get it from wheel shrines or dreams too but idk
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>>50441431
why are you so averse to the game's story, retard?
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nigger if you want attention do something besides post retarded one liners to random people
like maybe jump off a building or step in front of a train instead

>>50441438
imma savescum one just to test, not keep it if i get it tho cause i only do it for NAWLEDGE
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What's the current state of the main story for Elin?
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>>50441454
>Plays a an autistic game for autists made by an autist
>throws a shitfit like a nigger when he cant reach lvl 9999 immediately
lol? just use cheats
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>>50441457
one anon keeps saying it's there in jap debug mode
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>>50441457
None of the Gods believes Kumiromi is male so they enlist the help of the local farming sim hentai game protagonist (IE: you) to figure it out.
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>>50441457
the story boils down to "can we breed the perfect nontaxable entity".
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Quest: Raze Mysilia.
Leave no witnesses.
Plant evidence the Elea did it.
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>>50441457
If Elona's plot was "What is the final solution of the Elea question?" then Elin's plot most likely will be when the Elea question was first asked.
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>>50441457
Kissing Quruitzia and Melilith
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The timescale of everything in game is fucked
It should not be set 30 years before Elona
Given the fact we have entitities several hundred million years old living with us in our homes
I think Noa just got lazy and did not want to create a new map/world- I mean 30 years is such a SHORT time for all these major events to happen and then to be never once hinted or mentioned in Elona

Unless, maybe noa will go back to Elona and push out a shitty retcon/story patch (doubtful, HSP lOL))
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>>50441490
>Nuke Palmia
>You can be forgiven
>Being the race accused of creating Etherwind
>You can never be forgiven
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>>50441520
to be fair in elona the fucking ELEAN DIPLOMATS trick you into being a cannibal because its funny to them EVEN AFTER THEY SAY YOU SAVED THEIR LIVES.
the reasons for hating them are 100% legitimate and if you tell them to fuck off (aka you don't do the tutorial) they don't even give you a reward for saving their lives because you were (((rude))). also the fact that even after you save them they just want to abandon you and not let you tag along or something.
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>>50441501
the only events that don't make sense to me is what happens to sizzler, quruitzia and corgon but I think Noa is actually giving some player choice this time
apart from that what really happens in 30 years? we built up vernis, mysilla, mifu&nefus(if we count them as canon) get nuked
elin and yakasha get erased for some reason or they already left??
the home quest talking about gods also is pretty confusing, did gods leave like in funger where fraction of their power remained and that's what's talking to us? but then why is the exile seething at them stopping progress?
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>>50441525
I've always liked how basically everyone is so casual about any and all crime BUT cannibalism and being bad at performing arts.
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>>50441525
The Elea are like regular elves, they are snooty and look down at humans as inferior but not all of them are imperious. Larnneire is carrying an urgent message for King Xabi and wants to get on the road asap, but she doesn't hate humans. Lomias does hate humans which is why he is trying to trick you into eating the begger meat.
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Do you suppose Heating/cooling systems would be implemented, considering there are heaters/incinerators/aircon/pipes ingame
Maybe if they affected crafting stamina/material usage or speed.
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>>50441579
>increases speed of marital sex
>decreases conception
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why were bits renamed to funnels?
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>>50441562
Is Famia the Elin version of Lomias? She did put a beggar into a chest and locked it, later giving it to you as 'lockpick practice'.
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>>50441780
/m/ reference
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>>50441788
>Famia
You mean Fiama? She isn't an elf, she is a Norlander which is the majority ethnic group of Palmia. But that is a very Lomias thing to do.
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>>50441788
yup, Lomias teaches you how to play but he is a dickhead the whole way through with Larnneire reigning him in now and then before they leave.
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I only used 100 stamina and 80 putit eggs
pretty efficient I'd say, I don't need to increase my mining skill much anyway since there's no real incentive...
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>>50441876
>80 putit eggs
do putit eggs restore stamina
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>>50440587
>How much of this game is basing vs combat
However you want, really.
There are people who play Elin like Stardew Valley or like some dungeon crawler. Both are doing well.
Whatever your ratio, it's balanced by the fact that every skill has a stat assigned to it, so you can farm and eat good for stats, and when your stats are high, your skills and spells will quickly catch up.
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>>50441882
>do putit eggs restore stamina
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>>50441901
force him to watch Aldnoah.Zero, he'll quickly learn what the main character is teaching lol.
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>>50441876
What the fuck? Where are the huge naked tits? Where's the pissing loli? You have to use the same thing everyone else uses.
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>>50441901
>>50441912
???
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>>50441937
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>>50441932
But I do use them :3
I censored them
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>>50441525
It is pretty funny how literally everything important in the plot until the very end in Elona is being done by these other people you met at the start of the game while you're just some random errand boy.
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>>50441955
Elin has it's moments like that too, I laughed when home quest storyline was saying we are in trouble because of Issizler but you could have already beaten Innos at that point
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>>50441955
More games need to do that. Let me be some autist genetically engineering food and making picnic baskets to become more powerful than a god to deforest half the continent for the purpose of creating a massively profitable carpentry empire. Fuck politics. I want to fill my artifact museum while some asshole ruins the world.
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>>50441955
>>50441971
You're also talking about a game series where you can beat the final boss to death with a fried shrimp
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Do you guys tend to run a bell/metal putit ally or nah? Particularly early game.
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>>50442008
I'm not into slime hentai so no.
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>>50441525
Hey, leave Larnneire out of that, she's innocent, and also she interrupted her fate-of-the-world quest to drag you to safety and nurse you back to health when you nearly drowned.
Lomias is the one that constantly fucks with you throughout the tutorial. He's a total dick and completely deserving of any and all scorn.
I dunno what's with elfs in general. Ignoring diplomacy entirely and then being surprised when war happens is the kind of mistake I made playing strategy games when I was a child. You'd think they'd be better than that, but apparently not.
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>want to worship Jure
>want to worship Lulwy

what do?
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So is martial arts actually good now?
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>>50442059
yes
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>>50442052
Well you can always get your mount worshiping Lulwy for the speed. Jure never appealed to me and I will never ever play Paladin because of this. What's the appeal?
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>>50442060
What about dual wield?
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>>50442072
she's waifu material
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>>50441399
Not being a retarded purist and using a teleport scroll or rod to reposition, then taking out your shockwave or cleave weapon once you've found a decent chokepoint.
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>>50442097
I don't think I could do shit in a chokepoint either because the dogs are levelscaled for some ungodly reason, even two were enough to permastun me
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>>50442074
Good if combined with martial arts
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>>50441977
People by and large hate that shit. Games like White Knight Chronicles and Xenoblade X did it and people were fucking pissed.
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best way to get higher quality sheared materials? Capture a high level one probably? I dont know where to get lvl 150 monster balls though
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>>50442120
Investment.

You can shear enemies by the way, use invis, you're not gonna get much per enemy unless you use the fluffy pots.
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For Efficiency, would 100 Emergency Rations eliminate the malus for going overpop?

Is Delegated Farming affected by efficiency?

Wondering about if I can setup a massive vendor base and still grow stuff or if I could tack it onto a berry plantation.
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>>50442140
I can't answer the first two, but Fertility is static per location, so you may as well have a farm on every single place you own. Even the basic fertility rating without any boosts could be used to plant flowers for beehives or something.
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>>50442140
I never tested but I don't think emergency rations is worth a damn, better off just discounting production entirely for a vendor base. Meadow is a good candidate I think.
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Has anyone ever tried abusing the 100 gold shipped to gold bar by ignoring shipping until they can ship a million's worth of crap for 10,000 gold bar or does it update on the fly during the night?
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>>50442050
iirc it was entirely self-serving logic. "We agreed to ally with the others before the war, but when the war happened we refused to participate because our population is low and we don't consider imperial conflict to be worth losing lives." Which is entirely utilitarian sure, but is at the same time a total breach of trust. If the Elea expected consequences, it was probably "Don't bother the Elea with alliances" and not "They're subhumans who should be eradicated." Refusing to explain the Etherwind and the Forest's role in it until it was too late to save their rep was the truly suicidally arrogant move, but honestly there's a good chance people would've just killed them anyway just because of how disliked they were for the treachery.
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Found the guy who painted the Larnneire porno in Port Kapul
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>>50442116
>White Knight Chronicles
I think people hated that game for a lot more reasons than just "I'm not the main character of the story"
Not saying that didn't factor in, just... that game had a LOT of problems
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>>50442182
They found out about etherwind and forest way too late, Saimore already put the blame on Elea back then for killing the king of Palmia
Like maybe at best they could have told it to Yerles and caused another world war
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>>50442182
literally facing extinction because they weren't smart or sly enough to send only a few elves and then respond to any criticism by whining about their low population
not knowing the "token force" trick is a total diplomacy failure
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>>50442261
I think that's supposed to be one main points of the race, I think Lanneire in Elin even says the Elea don't have ambition and don't give much care about politics
If anyone fucked up during the story it was Xabi or Bethel really
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i know there was already this question in the thread but
coming back to this game after a year
what mods should i pick up?
what mods facilitate boosting my stats with an incubus playstyle
and are there any guides/mechanic explanations for getting into things that are current? all the ones on the wiki seem to be from 2024.
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>>50442274
King Xabi is a good man who did nothing wrong, but he didn't really himself any favors by having the Baron of Derphy as his advisor and entertaining anything the Prince of Zanan says, explicitly because Zanan is a Eulderna ally that is also currently at war with Vindale Forest.
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>>50442395
Zanan is an implied Euldernian puppet/proxy state.
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>>50442395
He kinda did nothing in general. Instead of sending Elona adventurer to explore he should have just sent us to kill Saimor or something. Having competent guards that stop him from getting assassinated by the guy he openly provoked would have been good too.
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>>50441054
Cannot become overburdened in base is core in my game. Yes I am cheating and I would do it again.
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Do Ether Diseases scale or something? I see different values on different people.
Should I undo all my ether diseases I got on day 1 and try to get them again???
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>>50442497
those diseases scale based on level yeah
https://ylvapedia.wiki/wiki/Elin:Ether_Disease
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>>50442497
>ether diseases
>day one
Unless you gave yourself aids it usually takes a year for ether disease to set in.
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>>50442595
Don't take everything literally.
>Monsters defeated by infected characters have a high chance of dropping “Remnant of what once was life (monster).”
This was my first ether disease, but I guess it was too good so Noa had to nerf it? I can rarely get good meat nowadays.
Crab and dragon ranch might be ideal
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>>50442650
Hunger for violence has a 50% chance to turn meat into remnants.
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>>50442116
>and people were fucking pissed
If you are not the main character of the story, the story should be completely optional and not very noticeable. You should never know the whole story unless you have been intentional, serious and very persistent in your search for answers.
It may be normal for jrpgs to have a completely linear story, but, imo, if you're not going to add player choice, it's better not to make any story. But games without a story are ten times more difficult to make.
Regarding Elin, the only serious criticism of the main quest that Noa shows us events that happened without our character. This is immersion breaking. You either have to ignore this like in dnd, where you can't use something you know as a player, because your character wasn't there to see it; or come up with some makeshift explanations like your character has visions and is trying to understand what it all means and how it relates to him.
The story itself is good and it's not hard to relate what's happening to your character if you want. At the very beginning, when Fiama found you in the ancient forest, maybe you both felt called to the same place at the same time? Boom! Now this is your story too and you didn't even have to be too chuni about it.
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>>50442395
On the other hand, since Xabi died without heirs despite having 30 years to produce one, Mayroon now has a claim to Palmian territory through Stersha.
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>>50442676
Not if I have anything to say about it!
*plap* *plap* *plap*
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>>50442676
That's not how Regancy works, generally King/Queen/Prince Regants are temporary de facto rulers until the true ruler is found, elected, or returns to the kingdom. She is outside the line of succession. Also she is a Norlander and a Palmian in Elona unless they changed that in Elin.
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>>50441054
>What cheat mods are ethical?
Everything used for character creation is fine. Options are limited, RP is not.
There are many impossible combos in the world, inaccessible spells, misplaced feats and so on. You don't have to restrict yourself to available content, unless it's a challenge run.
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>>50442685
If you want to hag max that's on you.
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My pets are a bit too strong for me to gallows now. My stamina went from 150 to 0 in just a few turns. Watdo
I need a proper training dummy but its quite hard to find one. Maybe hope for a lvl 200+ nefia boss to be a golem or a hermit crab?
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>>50442689
What if King Xabi married his daughter?
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>>50442673
>Now this is your story too
It's not though, we barely do anything relevant to the story. You can argue we're super important to the region for founding most of their shit, but not really to the story.
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>>50442673
I honestly appreciate the scuffed game of thrones story in between me running errands, farming turnips, and fucking my harem of wife-horses.
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>>50442709
>we barely do anything relevant to the story
Then we can do nothing and watch how the story progresses without us. I hope Noa adds this someday.
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800+ bait and counting, I have yet to fish up a statue in my danger lvl 50 demon invocation home....
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>>50442760
Maybe they're not hungry
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Jure's Bathwater
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>>50442783
Everyone talks about Jure (or maybe its just you) but no one talks about how Ehekatl is fucking stacked.
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>>50442740
This can be easily fixed with a couple of lines. A carrot!
The player is an adventurer, so why not hire him, and when the stakes get really high, promise him a noble title?
I could wander around Nymelle for years, but pay me and I'll be digging up the lower level tomorrow.
You already get a lot from story quests, starting with two free land deeds and rare items like the stroage chest, which you can't just buy, but it's like a hero's journey, which doesn't work unless it's your story, whereas being a mercenary works no matter what.
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>>50442804
nta but I think its funny that in Elona the diplomats save you, you go on to live your life, they continue with the story and don't bother mentioning you and by sheer chance or providence you end up getting roped into the store as well as a low level figure at first and I find that kind of story telling interesting, especially in a life sim/roguelike because you might have little stories with a lot of the characters by then:
>Loyter keeps killing you when you perform in Vernis
>King Xabi asking for my help after I've repeatedly accused him of being a Werewolf
Stuff like that is fun if you have an overactive imagination because your mind starts to generates reasons and explanations for why the King would trust someone that keeps on accusing him of a Werewolf while also "pretending" to never have met you.
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>>50441876
This tiny fort nefia was 2x smaller than Mecha nefia but gave 4x the rare gems, the heck
only cost me 20 eggs
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Has anyone experimented with sculpting high level meat into high tier statues and then material changing it or is even a +30 quality not efficient enough to warrant a high tier hammer?
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>>50443035
only worth it if you luck out with godly innos figure
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>>50441457
Basically non-existent at the moment.
Noa is breaking the story in two with Home story and Main story.
Apparently the questline of stopping a gnarled, cursed creature from spilling the blood of an innocent child is the light-hearted romp meant to contrast with how depressing the main story is going to be.
So to put it in perspective, there hasn't been a Main Story quest since Nymelle.
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What the fuck is "weight alternation"?
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Is there a hammer alchemy flow from ingot->gem ?
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This is what Lulwussy does to a man
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>>50443267
the secret origin of sonic the hedgehog
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wtf
aaaa5am
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>>50443690
[Exhausted]
[Very Sleepy]
[Euphoric]
[Dim]
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>>50443690
gotta restart your game anon noa pushed Nightly to Stable
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Do "Increase the maximum number of fish that can be caught at one time" land feats stack?
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It looks like vampires have finally lost their (experimental) status.
No night vision, sadly. No red books or lore so far.
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>>50444015
>No night vision
it's over
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>>50444015
>>50444075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aejZhKnNgmM
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>>50443962
Yes.

>>50444015
Try being a backer race, succubi got a red book and the fucking foxes have like 5
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Is walling off the perimeter 3 spaces from the exits a viable way of keeping monsters away?.
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>>50444310
The surefire way to stop monster spawns is the hardcap of 20 monsters at a time in bases. Use the Build Board to enter build mode while a monster exists, then raise the ground underneath them by 10+ tiles. Do this to 20 mobs and nothing will ever spawn again.
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>>50439603
>pianist is just a meme non combatant class
and that's a good thing, we don't need MMO design in this comfy fantasy life sim roguelike.
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>>50444846
I was going to say that there should be a 'crafter class' in Elin, but then I remembered that Farmer exists. That reduced stamina usage is literally the best thing any crafter can ask for and it can't even be replicated by any other class or Feat at this time still.
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>>50444980
I'm playing as a farmer right now in Elona
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Stable update
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