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Do you guys think actual dogfighting will ever come back? What technology/weapon developments would be necessary for this to happen?
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>>64754198
Stealth and metamaterials. Make it so radar just can't pick up planes anymore so engagements all happen within visual range.
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>>64754202
That was my first thought too but will stealth ever get that good? My second thought is why not just detect planes by IR signature at that point?
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>>64754198
No HOBS IR missiles make dogfighting irrelevant even when you get to the merge. All dogfighting has been reduced to winning that first one-circle fight and getting your missile off.

Why don't drones cost 1 million dollar per unit to produce like artillery shells or missiles or any kind of military thing that isnt a drone
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>>64754191
Link it, or fuck off
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>>64753944
Money isn't real and when we rolled really low on drone costs, nobody could be arsed to use their veto on it.
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>>64754177
>>64754201
https://www.fieldartillery.org/news/army-to-cut-155-mm-artillery-spending-citing-budget-pressure
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>>64754207
It's rather fucking easy to look up.
Try Army Ammunition Procurement.
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>>64754201
>>64754207
>SOUUURRRCE
>SOUUUUURRRRRRRRCE
>I DEMAND SOURCES
>NO I WON'T PROVIDE ANYTHING TO BACK UP MY OWN UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS
>POST SOOOOOURCE

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What tools for self defense would you recommend for someone in Europe to have when shit goes down. There are black powder revolvers shotguns and rifles, but you can't buy them everywhere in Europe. There are crossbows and bows but what is really their capacity to defend, and of course air rifles, in some countries they are unrestricted in some countries they are cucked and they are a hassle to have around in the case of an emergency. Better yet what should everybody own, not just weapons, in case they want to survive more than 72 hours.
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>>64750084
separate-loading black powder gun made before 1885 or their modern copies are treated basically like airguns. Only requirement is to be 18. You can even order it online.
https://militaria.pl/p/rewolwer-czarnoprochowy-uberti-1858-new-army-44-5-5-inox-16739
Black powder is trickier, you need European Firearms Pass (EFP) to purchase it, but only for purchase. So someone can just give it to you and everything will be totally legal.
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>daydreaming about le boog again (yuropoor edition)
why are goyim like this?
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>>64746990
mpre funkopops = less empty inside
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>>64753815
Because we weren't meant to live like this
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>>64746392
start engineering your own weapons

Realistically, what firearm would you need to take down a rampaging Na'vi from the Avatar films? Nine feet of solid muscle and bone (reinforced with natural carbon fibre), extremely fast-moving and agile, fighting on their own turf with very short engagement distances? There's no way 5.56 mm would cut it, would 7.62mm be enough?
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>>64754117
>Accidentally
Did you just ignore the whole creepy Ewa face pushing them away using brain wind or whatever?
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>>64754117
Their bodies have some sort of string carbon fiber reinforcement, making the “extremely hard to kill”. This is stated by Quaritch early in the first film. They are still killed by assault rifles >>64753253
>>64753273 But they do seem to require more punishment than humans.
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>>64754117
Collective consciousness analogues aren't really all that weird. It's just Japanese orange goo or the internet, but in plant form.
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>>64754140
>Their bodies have some sort of string carbon fiber reinforcement, making the “extremely hard to kill”.
I disregarded this because it makes no sense, doesn't sound like it would contribute to bullet resistance, and its effect is never shown on camera anyways.
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>>64753969
>>64753976
how the fuck does he survive a leap into a pillar of fire? Is he just the biggest, bluest bad-ass ever?

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Would you a pink gun?
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>>64753365
Only for girls
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>>64753365
According to gun lawyers the most common place your gun is going to come up is in road rage incidents, most of the time your opponents are going to tell the police you pointed a black or silver gun at them. If so it behooves you to have an obviously pink one.
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>>64753964
Unironically, it is the best for a woman with 0 firearms training.
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>>64753365
Either the gun store is being manipulative to make people think they're getting a good deal or they are retardedly advertising that their gun has zero demand.
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>>64754078
you gotta be at either extreme end of the bell curve of competence for them to make sense. It's really not that hard to train a normie to use a semi auto effectively.

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How come glocks frequently jam if you limp wrist them but other handguns don't?
https://youtube.com/shorts/FYG4aNr-b8o
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>>64751120
>trigger snobs
Concur.
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>>64740817
>Minimum age to post on 4chan is 18
then why the fuck are you posting here.
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>>64715717
Use 147gr ammo, it has less of a chance to fail if you use heavier ammo.
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>>64715717
you can absolutely limp wrist jam some other striker guns, i've done it on the range
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JaredAF did a video on this as well. Basically, light frame has low inertia/ momentum, so not enough energy from the recoil to move the slide itself. Berettas also have this issue when limp-wristed, though they fail to feed when the Glock would fail to extract.

Or you could get a revolver and bend your elbow to absorb the recoil. Just don't get one with engravings off the bat.

I am about to import 80,500 of these indian hesbee 22 short single shot handguns. They are currently in transit being shipped from India.

They have sat in storage as they were built in 1959 as gunlaws became more restricted in India.

If you were in my shoes, how do I make this business venture successful.

I purchased each pistol at 2160 rupees (around 24$) and they cost me ($1500 for import and $5000 in shipping) so i am in for abit under $2mil.

Do you think people will actually buy these or should I put my house for sale ASAP?
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>>64742644
We import winch motors from india. They are fucking dogshit; hardware, paint, failure rate and the boxes smell like cat piss. But apparently they are cheap.
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OP, you should sell these for like $50-75 a piece. You'll probably lose too much on shipping, so just go to gun shows or something. You can probably find FFLs to buy them in bulk too.
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>>64752732
>>64752870
That's just not ridiculous enough for the level of buffoonery OP is apparently engaged in.
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>>64742644
>buy name brand Tylenol
>pay name brand price
>active ingredient made in india
Race to the bottom.
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>>64754116
There's no way he sells 80,000 of these at $50+shipping+transfer. He should sell at $35 and hope to maybe make $800,000 if he's really lucky.

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>see grown masc man with one of those not-a-purse things
>immediately assume that that is where his piece is

Is this a common thought process or am I being paranoid? Is this a valid form for CC?
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>>64750040
Woobie :)
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>>64752146
Hnnng belly
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>>64751959
either you havent left the house in two years or you're feigning ignorance
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>>64751959

Naw, I've seen some millie boomers wear those things.
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>>64748142
no, purse carry is not valid

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>The Americans can no longer be trusted
>Russia is threatening
>China is threatening
>The Americans are threatening

Why don’t all countries just acquire nuclear weapons? If sufficient numbers of countries take this step then all threats of sanctions from non-compliance lose their significance. Israel already set the precedent by showing how nuclear weapons inspections and the sanctions tied to them have no meaning.

First one should build a large stockpile of nerve agents and genetically modified biological weapons so that deterrence remains in effect while the bombs are being built. Olympic pools of VX being pumped to cheap drones with spray tanks would be enough since the poison will remain in the terrain as microscopic droplets for months thus neutralizing enemy population centers even if the vast majority of launches are intercepted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGE_oMVJ50I
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>>64752919
We underestimate the impact of WW2 on the continent. It wiped out a generation of men, destroyed their empires, and made them subservient to the US or USSR. In some ways Europe has essentially been coasting on the societal wealth accumulated pre-1914.

Europe hasn't even created a top-ten company this century. Their only trillion dollar company is a luxury conglomerate that sells Cognac and Hermes bags. It's only growth for 30 years has come from rebuilding the countries behind the Iron Curtain, living standards have essentially been flat otherwise. It's a pathologically fucked place in a lot of ways, and that's before importing the cultural suicide that was birthed on American college campuses (sorry for that one).

And people wonder why the U.S. is maybe trying to uncouple from the continent. I'd like them to be doing well, but the outlook is real fucking grim, and I'm not sure I can tether the fate of my countrymen to European societies, however harsh that may seem.
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>>64754036
I have and it always gets you and the janny mad.
>>64754038
Germany hasn't won a war since 1871
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>>64752919
It’s hard to be an empire when your nation is losing its native population to aging and lack of births and the only immigrants are hostile to your culture.

The US is able to bypass this to some degree because the USA is not a nation-state in the traditional meaning of the term, it’s pretty much a post-national economic zone with a set of rules slapped on.

But Europe still is nation-states, and these nation-states feel the duty to provide for their aging citizens who won’t make babies, so their economy stagnates and they don’t assimilate the newcomers.
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>>64754051
arent there restrictions on selling fissile stuff? plus germany is pretty dumb. you can make a dirty bomb pretty easily. also nuke grade stuff is more enriched than reactor grade stuff
>>64754057
you literally started it. I didnt call anyone brown or thirdy until you did first.
also what would you call the no gunz yuros if they arent nafo?
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>>64754069
>and that's before importing the cultural suicide that was birthed on American college campuses (sorry for that one).
that shit came from France, Belgium and Germany. not us

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All things precision shooting, no experience necessary.
Discuss rifles, barrels, action, glass, loads, groups, competitions, and anything else related to the pursuit of tighter groups and longer shots.
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>>64752980
couldnt you just also put the bubble level on the elevation turret after the gun is leveled?
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>>64753049
You could but your assuming the turret is level and square and the retical is level and square to the turret
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>>64752980
Wheeler has a scope leveling kit that's really easy to use and inexpensive. You can also pick one up in store instead of ordering it from chyna and waiting 6 months for a cardboard prop like this nigger
>>64752980
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>>64753172
>you could but that would assume you're doing it correctly
I mean, ya?
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>>64753758
Reticles and turret caps aren’t always plumb to the body

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How are they still in business? shotgun sales are in the shitter and even if they do sell someone a shotgun, how many shotguns do people buy in their life time?
>but they sell .22s
are you really going to buy a mossberg .22 over a 10/22?
>the patriot
are you going to buy a mossberg patriot over a ruger or savage at basically the same price point?
>handguns
they sell handguns? have you ever seen someone with a mossberg handgun?
Henry's another one. Are there really that many people buying lever actions and single shot break actions? It's even worse than car companies because guns are cheaper than cars and .22s and hunting guns last basically forever
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>>64753950
>shotgun sales are in the shitter, retard. so bad no one stepped up to fill in for remingshit and they're trying to sell meme shotguns
You keep bringing up Remington, but Remington failed at everything. Not only had they cheapened their 870 design until their most loyal fans abandoned them, but they couldn't make a good handgun or rifle either (remember the RP9 controversy with the slide stop, the R51 controversy because they could barely get through 1 full mag and were falling apart after a very small round count, the Remington 700 controversy where they had to voluntarily upgrade everyone's bolt gun because they were firing without the trigger being pulled?). You'd know this if you lived in the country you claim to live in.
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>>64753974
I'm an American, you troon. remingshit and marlin got bought by Romney when they had terrible hunting gun sales. and then he shat them up.
I'm saying no company has tried to replace the 870 even after all these years. so there must not be a market for henry or ruger to want to get into and savage pumps are imported turkshit. like you
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>>64753984
>I'm saying no company has tried to replace the 870 even after all these years.
Successful gun companies don't have to penetrate that segment of the market. Mossberg has the shotgun market in the US on lockdown, and Benelli and Beretta are ahead in the European market but are slowly losing ground to the Turkshit (not because Turkshit is better, but because they are so cheap that they tempt people who don't know any better).
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>>64754003
benelli/beretta make turkshit. stoger is the same company as them and is the turkshit branch
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>>64752974
>He doesn't know how to read a graph
This is called a compound line graph, anon. You can recognise it by the shaded area between each line. It's different from a regular line graph. There's no overlap. So for example, in 1993(?) on the graph in question, when the total amount of firearms manufactured was about 5,000,000, pistols and revolvers together made up about half of that (2,500,000), while shotguns and rifles were each about a quarter (1,250,000). With this, consider how skinny the green line is for shotguns compared to the rest of the graph in recent years.

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Wouldn't people just recognize they're soldiers just by their pants, shoes, groups, muscular build, where they came from and political situation?
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>>64753696
It allows me to forgive phone fagging out of a desire to help, and I'm getting the information I want quicker in a relevant thread as opposed to having to try and hunt down that anon/some other one who can help me.
>t. anon they were replying to
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>>64753772
>t. brown
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>>64752335
Any chance is better than no chance. People will do anything in desperation, fleeing capture or execution will lead most people to try anything to up their chances of escape.
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>>64753175
Milsurp having is a based tradition and a phase that old boys should go through. Sperging out over paterns is a very /k/ thing, you'll fit right in. Welcome.
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>>64754175
>Old boys
All boys

why didn't the vector catch on?
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>>64753470
>we
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>>64753836
yeah, I'm American, you thirdy
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>>64753882
Why don't you post guns in any of the threads you spam then?
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>>64753884
it makes a certain tranny janny very mad when I post my henry and ARs, jew
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>>64753506
Thats so based

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Old thread: >>64739370

>Simulate schizophrenic auditory hallucinations with the sound player plugin!
https://github.com/rcc11/4chan-sounds-player
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>>64750853
Happy birthday. It's okay to stay inside a bit, just make sure you're still working out.
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>>64750853
Happy Birthday, Anon!
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>>64746315
You have my sympathy, BRo, Everyone deserves an opportunity for IQ tests
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>>64752985
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>>64746317
Sometimes you have to clear the cache because dynamic IP lands on some retard getting banned and after that it is pretty bad: harder captchas and shit

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Obviously it will be far worse than a dedicated option, but this could suit some people. I'm sure alot of poorfags trying to get into night vision would buy it before eventually buying something better and more focused.
Its fucking hilarious how we circle back around though. I remember the shitty 2000s guns and and all the ebay scopes with lasers and stuff attached to them like this.
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>>64752854
>fodder for PSA review photos.
I should get one.
>>64753295
Wow, what ever this is, I want this! What is it?
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>>64753541
Fug, this keeps getting better! Wtf is it? Do I need this? How much? I hope it's cheap.
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>>64753241
Which is fulfilled by other Chinese companies nicely. Infiray's thermal reflex sights seem to be doing well there.
IMO, Holosun is basically just reddit fodder and while they make nice stuff they have no business being this much of a go-to.
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The best optic on the market for PDWs. No worries about the lasers’ height over your thumb since it’s being mounted just behind the muzzle. It can be improved/better optimized for PDWs if they incorporated a white light into it, so you don’t have to stick a giant flashlight on the side of the gun.

Edit: was gonna delete my post once I realized this thread is not about the AEMS with the integrated lasers, but I’m gonna post it anyways. Picrel is the new AEMS I’m referencing.


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