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Last one dead. These threads need to be more common.

Between a Mossberg 590 and a Remington 870, which should I keep? Recently was given an 870 and I don't really care to have two shotguns.
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As far as just goofing off range toys go, are there any decent semi-autos out there?
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>>64682125
>and every gay ass range is slug only around me.
one of the big reasons shotguns are gay if you don't hunt or have access to a clay range
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just drunk purchased a 46" 10ga muzzleloading barrel from rice
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The 870 is the best pump shotgun on the planet IFF you replace the ejector with the Sully device from WeaponsArmorer.com.

The 870 used to own 90% of the police/tactical market, but the riveted factory ejector is shit. It's not only the most common point of failure, but a bitch to replace. This weakness allowed Mossberg, Beretta, and Benelli to gain a lot of ground in the past 20 years or so.

With the recent invention of the Sully ejector, which is stronger, more reliable, and much more easily replaceable, the 870 goes back to the top of the heap for pump action "riot guns", and with all the other aftermarket parts that can be had, it's easily the most versatile for people who want to hunt or shoot clays too.

You can get an old Police Magnum for under $500. Along with the Sully ejector, add a Volquartsen extractor, Chisel stock, Wilson ghost ring sights, and a Vang Comp magazine extension, if necessary. If you want an optic, use the Aimpoint H-2 with 6 MOA red dot. You will then have the world's best tactical shotgun.
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>>64687606
or you could just buy a Mossberg 590a1 off the shelf.

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it's BS that the pope nerfed these because the sweaty tryhard knightfags whined about it
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>>64686226
It was unrelated to knights but the clergy (a social class). The Vatican was the closets thing to the UN/Hague during that period and tried to deescalate the brutality of war for centuries.
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>>64686226
They were everywhere, papal ban or not, and no one gave a fuck. Also, like >>64686243
mentioned, the ban was more about the properties and princes of the church than anyone you’d call a knight.
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>>64686226
The Second Council of the Lateran decided in the canon 29 that any sort of missile weapons were forbidden to be used against christians
>We prohibit under anathema that murderous art of crossbowmen and archers, which is hateful to God, to be employed against Christians and Catholics from now on.

The canon 14 also said that jousts are bad
>14. We entirely forbid, moreover, those abominable jousts and tournaments in which knights come together by agreement and rashly engage in showing off their physical prowess and daring, and which often result in human deaths and danger to souls. If any of them dies on these occasions, although penance and viaticum are not to be denied him when he requests them, he is to be deprived of a church burial.
Which to be fair. they were basicaly just massive hooligan braw during this time period

Needless to say, nobody cared (although joust did eventualy changed into something with less collateral damage to the poll of knights of kingdom).
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>>64686226
>it's BS that the pope nerfed these because the sweaty tryhard knightfags whined about it
Nah. Pope banned all ranged weapon *when fighting against fellow christians.
Bow, sling and crossbow all were banned at same time.
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>super common factoid turns out to be pure chinese whispers yet again

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Finland still uses costal artillery, thoughts?
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>>64687567
>no undesirable humanoids
>no bugs
>quiet
>cheap
>hyper comfy sleeping
>infinite free snow
>infinite free snow angels
>can own guns
It's comfy as fuck.
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>>64687591
>finland
>no bugs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzh52Ap5d10
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>>64687567
Having grown up near coastal marshlands its a nostalgic feeling. In New England we even had an Artist's movement about a century ago of seasonal squatting in seaside shacks so you could paint. You can still find some of these shacks today on the coast.
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>>64687506
>Why does anyone live there, are they poor?
Yes. The Canet gun was in service in the Finnish coastal artillery until 2003, let that sink in
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>>64687572
The Army is already a Peoples army

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How is Ukraine able to receive this quality of video feed and send controls to low fly drones targeting airbases inside of Russia?
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>>64687692
It's a good thing that Merkel hasn't been in charge for quite a while now.
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>>64687692
I hate this cunt so much. I'm glad to see that her legacy and reputation has gone to shit so quick.
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>>64687705
>>64687707
> Hasn't been in charge
A leopard may lose it's spots, but you're foolingno one with the "Kazakhi" oil in Druzhba pipeline
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>>64687714
The Poles shut the lines that go through their territory. The Ukies, from my memory, will keep the pipes in their territory running until the contract expires in 2027.
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>>64687692
>King Nigger sided with Migrant Merkel
Like pottery

Why was the Longbow in use for literally 300 years when it simply could not penetrate armor? I have watched several experiments with modern reproductions and never once has it achieved penetration of plate armor. In this latest one they can't even pen at point-blank range a late medieval brigandine and cheap Sallet helmet which was worn by poorfag troops. Rich nobles wore high-end bespoke plate made from tempered steel with every surface calculated to deflect blows and it would have zero chance against that. The amount of training that went into using the bow doesn't seem worth the results.

https://youtu.be/SFFgcTzCvMo
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because horses don't have armor
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>>64684834
>literally 300 years

more like 100 years and then the english lost the war. crossbow was used for like 500 years both on land and at sea, from the first crusade to the taking of teotihuacan, but has 0.1% of cultural coverage that longbow does. somehow a single defeat at crecey is enough to humiliate and annihilate the entire crossbow legacy, but the disaster of patay does nothing to the reputation of the english archers. hmmmmmmm
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>>64684834
People back then thought it was important, but this faggot in 2025 says they could have done better
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>>64684834
>Commoners can afford it
>They can shoot a bunch of arrows into other commoners, who don't have complete armor and will take losses
>They can force opposing men at arms to bunch up so badly they lose to your men at arms
>They can still fight effectively in melee when the time comes
>The English are generally retarded and CANNOT let go of traditions, so they retained the longbow long after it it stopped being useful
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>>64684834
Legs, face, forearm/hands were unarmoured on regular soldiers, see tods video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFFgcTzCvMo

But then you might ask why the english used very heavy drawweight bows when 40-60 lb drawweight would be enough to wound the unarmoured body parts. It is also a kind of area denial weapon, i read one example that the romans had to lift a siege of a gallic town in the war against vercingetorix because the gauls had bowmen who prevented the romans to build siege engines/equipment. Whereas the gauls had no or not enough archers in the siege of alesia and thus the romans succeeded.

Its always a good option to be able to hit from a distance, even if its not very powerful.

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what if we vibe-coded the next NGAD?

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How Was Your Christmas Edition

Old: >>64674136

Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhT8aI9-X5I
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>>64687664
ScatzooSNAPantifabin
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hi carbon
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>>64687680
Did your hands tremble while typing this?>>64687680
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>>64687668
Functionally retarded individuals such as yourself get filtered by my 135-IQ posts regarding AR's
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>>64687724
You only post that babble to avoid being banned for off topic. Everyone here is aware of your games

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Speech: http://kcna.kp/en/article/q/5ceed4f1eb2058145a9bbbc60fcf07dd.kcmsf

tl;rd: Basically they want a nuclear sub fleet and are building a Blue Water navy, new surface ships explicitly referred to as 'Attack Destroyers'

1/4: It is large.
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>>64677213
tl;dr: Islam is still by far the most dysgenic of Abrahamic religions (with secular strains like communism and its sects accounted for)
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>>64676403
> The DPRK has a program to replicate the S-300/Patriot as a native system but it hasn't worked out well which they fully admit. It's a major source of frustration and annoyance for them, they are good at making missiles but an advanced long range AA missile is a problem.
Creating a modern Air Defense system is no joke.

It's one of the toughest fields for a nation to establish. If all the knowledge of building a modern AA system were comprised into books, it would likely be larger than most libraries.

Modern AA systems are very abstract in how they work and is heavily dependent on chain of command, but not at the same time. Since it's designed to still function and defend even when multiple sensors, radars, and launchers are down. It's also extremely software heavy which is arguably even tougher than building the hardware, as with hardware, you can be guided by physics and other designs.
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>>64680127
If you arent american then who cares if we kill you. Go cry about it. Agree about the jews
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>>64687519
I wonder if the DPRK may be attempting to integrate large numbers of legacy systems into their modern IADS. There have been hints in that direction for years. I wouldn't be shocked if they took a page out of the Russians book and even integrated MANPADS. They already have radar guided 14.5mms.
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>>64680200
Checked.
How else are you gonna put the balls in?

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Is this the most accurate portrayal of BMD in anime?
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>>64687522
>Haruhi
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>>64683816
You guys know what to do.
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>>64687527
This guy knows.
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>>64679234
Uhh, no? I can count on one hand the number of zombie outbreaks PACFLT deals with annually, it never gets this bad.
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>>64687378
>Konpeki no Kantai
>Yamamoto somehows goes back in time and changes history
>Japan absolutely stomps on the US and Germany and just keeps winning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQfwwX1o2Qo
It wanks the japanese to unheard levels.

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would a starship-based gunship or dragon-based gunship work?
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>>64681299
We're already decades past the first armed, manned spacecraft. Space has always been militarized, despite the rhetoric.
>>64681328
That's how ISS was built, launch modules then have astronauts do the required hookups.
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>>64670128
RODS FROM GOD
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>>64670128
No, because neither of those two things works anyway.
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>>64670128
ChOADE devolved into laserstars which simply outranged everything including shooting down drone and missile swarms.

I suppose an antilaser coating might work, but you're going to end up mirror fighting laserstar v laserstar with some missiles thrown in
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>>64685622
i never understood that idea just shoot ballistic missiles that go up higher

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Horsie is safe :)
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>>64687498
>Are these regular Russian units, or Luganda and Donbabwe
Anon, I... The donbabweans...
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>>64687498
almost all the donbabweans and lugandans got mulched in battle
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>>64685402
hard disks full of stuff?
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>>64683870
>>64683313
>>64683898
I can't remember the last time I've seen footage of a GAZ Tigr.

I guess tigers went extinct in Russia :^)
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>>64687498
Luganda and Donbabwe units are manned by russian conscripts since late 2023

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what 10/22 should i get? i like the wood carbine with iron sights but the slick one with receiver rail looks cool too. will i miss not having iron sights? is there any accuracy advantage to stainless barrel?
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>>64681797
The appeal of the Summit receiver is the parts commonality with 10/22s, I can add any 10/22 barrel and trigger, and chassis I want.
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One day, maybe. Or at least whenever they sort the suppressor tax stamp stuff
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>>64680810
>>what 10/22 should i get?
>One that you build yourself. A basic 10/22 is a solid gun but everyone ends up replacing parts - might as well cut out the middleman and build exactly what you want from scratch.
Not OP but I just recommend finding the cheapest model you can and starting from there. A receiver, bolt, and trigger group will cost you what a regular 1103 would last I checked, even just take-offs (usually from builders who toss the OEM parts). Also what the FUCK did Ruger do to their catalog? There's only the 1103 left for the carbine tab.
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bump
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>>64681809
I was so excited to try out minimag after everything I heard and read about it, but apparently my rifle hates it. Top is your common Blazer slop, bottom is minimag.

What's the deal with the ISV? Does it make any sense? Is it retarded?
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>>64681264
No. Some signifcant percentage of parts for the ISV can be bought at NAPA.
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>>64681460
>>64681538
That's with maintenance for life of vehicle.
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>>64686365
No, if that were real (some fixed price contract for x years) it would be itemized with its own code and price. Even upgrade kits have their own items.
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>>64681140
>>64681263

It's a stripped down Chevy Colorado.

The US Army's Infantry Squad Vehicle (ISV) is heavily based on the diesel variant of the ZR2, with 90% of the vehicle coming from Commercial Off-The-Shelf (COTS) components.[47]
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>>64681264
The current Humvee fleet is like a nursing home. Giving them heart transplants isn’t going to fix diabetes, kidney failure, dementia, etc.

>>64681146
Picrel

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Will laser guided missiles and Bombs still have a place or is it all going to be fire and forget
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>>64687607
>IMHO key step is moving from 2D tracking to spatial reconstruction. Missile should be aware of locked object in 3D space, it's speed, direction, maneuvering capabilities, 3D shape from database or measured during acquisition. Then most counter measures become apparently false allowing missile to track on expected path.
Isn't this already a thing with recent missiles? Very important to implement and immediately makes any flares/chaff and everything that doesn't follow the same trajectory as the jet completely useless.
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>>64687660
>Very important to implement
*easy
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>>64687512
Ukraine showed that GPS rounds are nice and all but you still want laser guided for direct fire support so laser isn't going anywhere.
Also laser is cheaper than fire and forget and military love cheap eqiopment.
Besides some militaries deployed laser guided manpads. Well mostly brits, and brits went full retard(more than once) and decided to make their manpad as MCLOS, so good luck hitting anything and somehow this piece of shit was more expensive than fucking Stinger.
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>>64687660
AFAIK only advanced system ground radar like PAC3 does that. The missile would only receive flight guidance and maybe do simpler terminal tracking. And nothing like it in simpler devices like man-pads. But they absolutely could. If 100$ smartphone with single camera can do 3D measurements there's no reason why 100k missile couldn't distinguish sideways falling fireworks from 20meter long 30Ton chonker moving at Mach speeds. Only greed at expense of western might and lives.
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>>64687703>
>afaik
>there's no reason why 100k missile couldn't distinguish sideways falling fireworks from 20meter long 30Ton chonker moving at Mach speeds.
>Only greed at expense of western might and lives.
>afaik
retard

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>In Moscow, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov stated that "Japan's leadership is attempting to accelerate militarization," with reference to increased defense spending under the Sanae Takaichi administration. Amid escalating Japan-China tensions, he expressed Russia's firm support for China's position on the Taiwan issue, inferred that Russia would provide China with military assistance in bringing Taiwan back under China's control, and made veiled threats about the consequences of Japan interfering.

>This appears to refer to Prime Minister Takaichi's parliamentary response regarding a Taiwan contingency potentially constituting a "survival-threatening situation," the Japanese government's proposal of a record-high defense budget for fiscal 2026, and considerations to revise the three non-nuclear principles. Lavrov pointed out that the "acceleration of militarization" under the Takaichi administration "will clearly have a negative impact on regional stability."

Source:
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c5993ae64bfc1aa80ba17f8036e6546ea4030add

I am under no delusion that Russia's much-diminished military could provide any meaningful aid to a Chinese marine invasion of Taiwan. Nor am I deluded enough to believe that this is anything more than lip service from Russia to China--probably directly requested by China--in relation to China's crashout over the Japanese PM stating that Japan would defend Taiwan from invasion as a matter of national self-preservation.

However, I hope that statements like these from Russia convince Japanese that they have skin in the game, that it is better to kill Russians in Ukraine than in Hokkaido, and that Japan should start sending real military aid to Ukraine.
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>>64687642
i'd love to see in what state languishes the pacific fleet. if the black sea and north sea fleet are a bunch of undermanned rustbuckets good only for target practice, the state of the ships docked at vladivostok leave much, much to be desired.
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>>64687647
Does Japan have anti-ship missiles?
>>64687654
Are there even any dry-docks in the Russian Far East?
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>>64687626
>Russia will help China invade Taiwan
Oh god, the Chinese are doomed.
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>>64687642
Only threat Russian fleet possess are submarines. Most vessels are old and lacked maintanance for decades, you can see it with Moscow flagship of Black Sea navy that was barely operational. Russian surface fleet is a joke even in soviet times it was first place to cut funds. This is also why first ever hard kill APS was developed for Soviet Marines, because they had no money to switch T-55(steel armor) to T-72(composite armor), so hardkill APS was band aid solution so marines tanks won't get blown up by any retard with at weapon.
Submarine fleet on other hand got multiple upgrades and is more or less well maintained(for russian fleet that is).
Subs are great for sinking other ships but not much else. They can preform limited missile strike but that's it. And of course there are balistic subs.
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>>64687671
>day 602 of the 3-day taiwan rebellion suppression operation
>a russian ballistic missile putters out during boost phase, falls on a city block in coastal china killing 10000
>chinese officials claim zero casualties


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