how to beat mongols/horse nomads?Fortifications?focus on range?heavy cav?hold out until the current khan dies?
>>64765773Historically, either convert them to your religion (Islam) or assimilate them into your culture (China).
>>64765773Majority of horse nomads are easy. Heavy cavalry wrecks them. Disciplined heavy infantry wrecks them. Fortifications wreck them. Mostly, horse nomads just raid for food and flee when your heavies show up. They're really good at fleeing.Mongols are, unfortunately, not the majority of horse nomads. Mongols have discipline on par with 18th century European armies, unlike... well, any other pre-gunpowder army. Mongols are weird because they have half a dozen generals each on the level of Caear or Pompeius and all of them arw loyal to Genghis or Ogedai. That kinda thing is shockingly rare. Mongols have absolutely no qualms about integrating conquered peoples' infantry into their armies in a matter of years. Actually not uncommon amongst sedentary peoples, but rare amongst nomads. Mongols back the raiding capabilities inherent to horse archers with a logistical base not seen amongst any of their contemporaries, and indeed not since Rome, which enables them to campaign foe multiple years, even decades, and take fortresses, something horse nomads usually lack the ability to do.What I'm saying is, Mongols were exceptionally unusual. Mongols were horse nomads, but most horse nomads were not Mongols.Genghis' ability to inspire loyalty amongst people who would otherwise be busy carving out their own microempires and backstabbing each other, his and his immediate successors' ability to integrate conquered societies' soldiers basically on the spot, his and his officers' ability to actually discipline an army of horsemen was a literal once in history event. No horse nomad society before or after accomplished what he did. In the end, they were stopped only when their logistics gave out, similar to the Spanish in the Americas or Rome in central Europe.Stopping horse archers has been accomplished by a plethora of sedentary peoples. It's not rocket science.Stopping the Mongols, assuming you aren't sitting 5000 km from their homeland?Good luck.
>>64766767https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bạch_Đằng_(1288)
>>64768312Meant for >>64767105
>>64767120Except Mongol composite recurve bows were just as powerful as the largest English longbows.
>got 5/8 groups at 100 yards instead of 3/8. Gotta rebed the action>Gotta use a $200 worth of cleaning equipment>Everything you do ruins the gun>Gotta use 50 different tools to mount a scope>Stock flexes slightly if you sit on it, gotta buy a $600 stock>Gotta use a ten pound rifleMeanwhile I just go out in the woods and train in field positions, shoot squirrels from as far away as I can see them, and do nothing to my guns except wipe the bolt and barrel down with an oiled cloth and occasionally run patches through the barrel with fishing line. If I can hit an egg at 50 yards while braced against a tree, there is no fucking reason in real life to worry about accuracy beyond that. Bench rest shooting seems to seep out and poison everything and mislead new shooters about what is actually necessary to have suitable equipment and skills for any practical purpose.
>>64767562>I'm strictly a bolt action guy,gayest action>>64767518bench rest shooting isn't really about shooting it's like competitive reloading
You're all sick people. I hope you all get cancer. Fuck youse all. I put a curse upon you all. Fuck ya mudda
>>64767518>gets mad about other people shooting in a way he doesn't like>mad about other people shootingPretty gay, anon.>herb planted everywhere possible
Shooting steel at 1,000 yards from a tripod is fucking fun and you can't stop me, faggot
>>64767518elr prs is fun and challenging. making that perfect wind call from the grass blowing is satisfying as fuck. cope and seethe.
Post gear. Discuss gear. Late night edition. Level IV+ and 4Chan Gold required.Old: >>64732103
>>64767890looks like the issued thermal underwear top, but I doubt those were a thing in the early 90s. maybe a Norwegian shirt.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zM9hIqnGAYc
>>64767970>GAY
>>64764526Buying anything other than dual tubes is cope and buying night vision as an entire concept is also basically just cope too. PVS31s are like 15 years old now, PVS15s and PVS14s are 30 years old. Everything you buy surplus is old, beat to shit and on the way towards breaking. All the night vision companies just sift through piles of trash and put together the least broken tubes and housings and sell them for the price of a new car. Not only that, but all these night vision companies go bankrupt every few years and rebrand themselves constantly so you're completely fucked when "l33t oper8or nods llc" disappears forever from instagram and you sunk $15000 into dual tubes with a custom 3D-printed housing which broke in half after you ran into a tree in the woods once.t. nonods noguns
>>64768283>t. nonods nogunsThis guy fucks.
Guns competing to replace the L85, the "Project Greyburn". Thoughts?
>>64767941I was about to say even turks are making 417 clones, how hard can it be?But then I tried to think of some british guns and yeah. you're right.
>>64766439>4 AR-15s>2 AR-18sI get that these are peak assault rifle, but man that's grim.
>>64766439KNEEL.
>>64767812imo its gonna be a long time until we evolve past AR15 based designsits gonna be like with bolt actions - mauser 98 became the gold standard and it took a whole new generation of semi auto rifles to actually progress with something newmaybe telescoped case ammo will finnalt catch on and we will see brand new designs>>64768121yeah i know its boring but i genuinely gotta ask what do you think is the alternative? i suppose a modernized roller delayed blowback could still be viable but it would still strugle with things like getting very dirty because its literally a blowback actionwe could also have a kriss vector style action but i got no idea how strong the springs and other components would have to be
>>64768278>what do you think is the alternative?There won't be an alternative until we get a fundamental change in infantry weapon technology. That doesn't mean I can't pine for the cold war days when a competition for a new service rifle with six competitors would have had six different rifles.
>see grown masc man with one of those not-a-purse things>immediately assume that that is where his piece isIs this a common thought process or am I being paranoid? Is this a valid form for CC?
>>64749154yeah you're a faggot for knowing such termsI had to google it and almost puked
>>64763803I know snapback hats are tasteless but don't you think you're overreacting a bit, anon?
>>64761403I found some with an extra, snap closed pocket which are great for this exact problem.
>>64748142what happened to IWB concealed carry and shame?
>>64763544My subconscious probably wouldn't immediately flag a garish fanny packs as much as those zoomer purses, but the illusion would still shatter if the dude dresses like pictel.
2 more weeks CZ and mossberg patriot trannies btfo'dhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMXQ5_jTfYMthat is the loosest and most useless hasty sling I've ever seen. On the one hand, plastic sloppa stock, but they put and adjustable comb and length of pull knobs in the stock so that's cook
>>64768243they're hunting rifles. I can't really think of a good argument for x39 anymore because the import restrictions made the price go up and even if you really like the round .30-30 and .300 blacked are basically the exact same thing as 7.62x39 and hunting loads cost about the same since the commie surplus factories weren't creating hunting loads anyway 5.56 has obviously eclipsed 7.62x39 for self defense a while ago
>>64768243>>64768279oh and there is a 5.56 version https://savagearms.com/firearms/sku/32666
>>64764983>savage anythingI sleep. Wake me up when it doesn't take the force of a gorilla to throw back the bolt decocked.
>>64764983>loses zero after you look at it
It looks like they are discontinuing the 220/212 for the "harvester" which is just the 212/220 in the next gen 110 stock. One thing that's kind of odd is that the lefty bolt version is only in 20 gauge and not 12, but I'm pretty sure most people who were buying the 212/220 in the first place were in the know and were buying the 20 gauge version anyway
The T-34 is the best tank of World War II. What about airplanes? According to /k/
>>64761724>'competed with the'F4U never "competed with" anything it was a 1-single specific design contract with USN, prototype first flown April 1940.>Grummanafter World War II began and during the two years 1940+1941, all bets were off concerning any pre-1940 ideas, projects, or concepts in the U.S. aviation industry: It was a whole new worldthe XF6F-1 contract was signed on 30 June 1941, and subsequent to Pearl Harbor 12/07/1941 (official U.S. entry into the war) plus combat experience reports in first few months 1942 of F4F vs. A6M, USN BuAer requested the already-available R-2800 engine for the fighter design. The first two XF6F-1 prototypes (-2600<--used in Grumman's TBF torpedo bomber and -2800 powered, respectively) took maiden flights just a month apart from each other in June and July 1942.>P-47the immediate predecessor Republic fighter, P-43, was air cooled radial-powered (and the V-1710 would not have provided nearly enough performance or power for the new heavier larger airplane; even the P-43 proposed upgrade P-44 Rocket had a R-2180 Twin Hornet powereplant)>B-26 Marauderwas the first R-2800 Double Wasp-powered American warplane to reach squadron service March 1941, and the highest performance Allied bomber aircraft until arrival of de Havilland's DH.98 Mosquito later that year.XF4U project powerplant didn't "influence" shit, all of 1940-1943 new single fighter (and bomber) aircraft designs were going to be powered by 2,000 hp-class engines: That was the nature of where combat aircraft performance and technology was headed overall, and additionally based on early-war combat experience encounters with adversary aircraft. R-2800 happened to be the most readily available and tested design at that moment in timeComment too long. Click here to view the full text.
The answer to which tank is the best in WW2 should be self evidentDo modern tanks look like T-34s? no, do they look like Shermans ? hell noThey all look like Tigers and Tiger 2s , there is your answer Its that simple
>>64739550How much of that is sinking French ships that did not fire back and were stunned by the cowardice and betrayal in the soul of Angloids?
>>64765575>F4U never "competed with" anything it was a 1-single specific design contract with USN, prototype first flown April 1940.Look up the U.S. Navy design competition February 1938. Didn't bother reading the rest.
>>64767103>design competition>design>Didn't bother reading the rest(You) = Illliterate.
>I need a beautifully designed and reliable shotgun Say less.
All kommandos should go to Richmond, VA on the 19th for the vcdl lobby day to protest anti gin legislation
>>64768249Yeah, it's my God given right to enjoy a gin and tonic
Hello
>>64768249>All kommandos should go to Richmond, VA on the 19th for the vcdl lobby day to protest anti gin legislationnot really a big gin fan myself but "first they came for the gin and I said nothing and then when they came for the rye whiskey there was no one left" etc etc so would still show up.
>>64768240nice italian shotgun
Post your items,prices and burner
FOR SALELC Smith Field Grade 12ga double barrel shotgunSelling because I've shot it maybe twice in 8 years. The safety does NOT work and I'm not opening the lockwork of the gun to fuck with it. Price: uh, not sure how much sporting shotguns are worth so $300 or best offer plus shipping? I've only sold one other gun before please don't crucify me. Contact: quickburner2022@gmail.com
Bump. Conduct commerce in arms, you lazy fuckers.
What's a fair price for a Romanian TT33 with holster and 2 mags?
>>64763114Any patch making frens that will make picrel?
Any interest in a 20" PSA w/ a 403b that got cobbled together? Might have a sling laying around to throw in too.
>>64767568Hadn't considered P&W. A company called Lyman recently came out with really cheap cans, all under $300. Their .22 is 7.32" long. https://www.lymanproducts.com/skarv22
>>64767582wait I'm retarded. idk what that 7.32 figure on the site means, it's 5"
>>64767582Yeah normally the difference in lifetime between suppressor and barrel means p&w is eh, center fire rifle barrels usually burn out when a suppressor would barely be through a 1/5 or less it's expected life (at least in a higher precision context). Cost just doesn't work out unless someone REALLY cared (though there has been a least one effort to do better I think, that foreguard/wrap muzzle device thing that came out last year). But for a PCC that'll last ages and can run a cheap can, p&w might be worth a more serious think? Straightforward and guaranteed solution, just a question of the price being right.
>>64767593Yeah while 22lr cans should be ok with 5.7 they tend to be short given how little gas they need to handle. You might have to wait a bit for a wider variety to start dropping in price or for something aimed at 223/5.56 to get cheap. Could be a few months anyway.
>>64767582>>64767593>>64767635could probly just have any decent gunsmith who works with barrels figure out an extender thatd give you an extra inch for not much. they'll have unused bits of blank from cutting down barrels to custom lengths pick one somewhat bigger then 22bore then 1/2x28 female on one end and male on the other and p&w it all together?
Shitehawk edition Insert that one handed challenge here Guide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNikBottom text: >>64757035
>>64768075Hah, thanks!
>>64768108The difference in accuracy of revolvers versus semiautomatics is vanishingly small, so if you see a difference, it's probably placebo (or revolvers just fit your hand better). If you want my advice, you should get a gun with a red dot on it, and dry fire with it.
>>64768218Please respond
>>64768218>>64768290I don’t know much about frankenglocks, but I think most people recommend brownells for cheap Gen 3 slides.
>>64768296its more expensive but it doesnt include a barrel. thanks for the recommendation though.
AK General /akg/Chocolate Chip Chinese Chestrig Edition>Thread #2086Old thread here >>64704982
>>64766907Used to shoot my AKs every weekend but currently recovering from a pretty serious workplace injury. I’ll try and go tomorrow if I can get transport because I undergo surgery on Monday and after that probably won’t be shooting any real guns for about a month or two.
>>64767798what the hell happened to you that you need surgery?
>>64767887I’m a heavy equipment mechanic, got drug underneath the rear deck of bushhog in a freak accident at work, fucked up my whole left upper body, partially collapsed my lung. Already got my ribs and arm fixed but the collarbone isn’t healing properly so have to get outpatient surgery for it. I’m just glad I’m alive. Also thank god for workers comp. Moral of the story don’t trust retards from another department, don’t be retarded, and if you work in a risky career make sure they have good medical benefits.
>>64767183PK-A Venezuela reporting in Wife loves it for what it's worth.
>>64767332>9mm PCC>$1.9k>not an H&K or B&TA fool and his money, etc etc
>be me>innawoods>climb hill to get a better view of the sunset>find a random tree bunker just sitting in the woods>this wasn't some sloppily assembled driftwood fort you'd find on any beach>it was sturdily built, resting against a tree as its base, the wood had been cut down to give it matching dimensions, and effort had been made to camouflage it (I didn't notice it until I came within ~50 feet)>just large enough to hold a man plus a few bags in relative protection from the elements and concealmentWhat does /k/ think of my discovery?
>>64764060Looks cozy
>>64764060>What does /k/ think of my discovery?Could have been built by any child with access to a hatchet. Regular driftwood shelters can be built by any child.
>>64764756Debris shelter
>>64766013Yeah but how many kids do you really see with the skills to actually do that these days?
>>64764121heh
Holidays and winter ops. Any front, any era. Post winter /k/ino. Almost didn't make it home in time to post this year's thread.
>>64756456Maybe. 1917-1918.
https://instagram.com/croona_armyphotographer/p/CXBJFA8NTkX/
Weather at the DMZ, 2015.ROK's 12th Division Eulji Unit is hit with a late mid-april snowstorm at Inje, Gangwon-do.https://fb.com/DaehanmingugYuggun/posts/1125947344097465
United States Marines of a machine gun crew on maneuvers in France, winter of 1917-18.
Late Christmas EditionPost what you want about anything. No rules.Previous thread: >>64597464
>>64765844>Except the Russians. It was faster to just adjust the front sight.I think the Yugoslavs are guilty of that as well, I've seen so many M48s with their front sight drifted to the maximum one side or the other
>>64766657I think that with Yugoslavia, like the USSR, the refurbishment program for obsolete arms eventually becomes just typical socialist make-work to keep people "employed" rather than to produce a quality product. Thus it doesn't matter so much how well the 30+ years obsolete rifle actually performs as a weapon.
I just impulse bought a Kabul Arsenal Martini Henry carbine, should arrive towards the end of next week. I’ve never even heard of them but I saw Ian did a video on them and they’re legit. I guess I’ll have to start loading 577/450, how much of a pain in the ass is it?
>>64767542>how much of a pain in the ass is it?wouldnt know. I just risk it with surplus Kynoch
>>64767542Not that hard.
