>I need a beautifully designed and reliable shotgun Say less.
Hello
>>64768249>All kommandos should go to Richmond, VA on the 19th for the vcdl lobby day to protest anti gin legislationnot really a big gin fan myself but "first they came for the gin and I said nothing and then when they came for the rye whiskey there was no one left" etc etc so would still show up.
>>64768240nice italian shotgun
>>64768240I like this one better
>>64768240The three bass pros I went in north Texas this Saturday all had at least 5 Beretta 1301 tactical gen 2 for $1299. They said Beretta had a glut of 1301 and sold them to Bass pro for a good price.
There is nothing mechanically wrong with this grip.>one hand is going to take the recoil>recoil force is transmitted along the other hand as wellThis is useful especially for larger calibers or smaller shooters.With the stupid grip which is considered "right", the other hand simply doing nothing other than pushing the firing hand sideways.
>>64765672> support hand placed behind a fucking fulcrumEnjoy your massively increased muzzle flip I guess> support hand compressing tendons, forcing you to flex firing hand to pull triggerAnd just literally everything about your shot being trash
>>64765672My boomer dad gripped his semi-auto like this a few times until I got him trained otherwise. The slide bloodied his thumb at one point and he didn’t do it again after that.
>>64765672sorry to hear about your anisomelia, OP.
Perhaps if you are using your other hand to protect your firing hand's wrist, you should move to a lower caliber or pick up heavy objects more frequently. Another good alternative would be to place the supporting hand in front of the firing hand like a normal person.
>>64766338It doesn't.
Whatever happened to the patch threads?
>>64763770>The patch thread and /ak/ have the highest percentage of hasguns of any given thread on this board/prg/ was always pretty decent too but like 10 anons or something in it so dunno if that counts
>>64768525Fair.It is a but of an outlier due to the low population, it also occurs every month or so. While the /ak/ consistently rolls into a new thread and the patch thread used to do the same.
>>64768413he turned me into a newt
>>64767816he's never coming back, is he?
>>64768852RIP
"Fackin' cunts" edition>Image limit hitOld thread: >>64746248>Simulate schizophrenic auditory hallucinations with the sound player plugin!https://github.com/rcc11/4chan-sounds-player
>>64768617Didn't they set the hilariously low goal of like 200 guns and only got a third of that with majority of them being from an estate sale?Coupled with them also scamming a guy who was owed like 3.5k but was only given 500 bucks and told to go fuck himself
>>64768751>assault style type capabilitiesThe mesa tac fags better ship some of their shotgun pistol grip stocks up here so I can get one before they try to ban those as well
>>64768765>hilariously low goal of like 200 guns and only got a third of that with majority of them being from an estate sale?No, they got 1/10th of that, 25 guns in total. If the nationwide buy back has a similar turn out, they'll snag like 9000 guns total when estimates say the total number of banned guns out there is close to a million. It's hilariously retarded.
>>64768617Once we handle the Greenland situation we may as well come rescue you guys as well.
>>64768825fuck no, I'm sorry leafbros but we are NOT taking in millions of jeets and faggy liberals
What does /k/ think of my new duck gun?
>>64768011yes
>>64764551>>64764893>>64766456>>64766470What a sexy hunk of man.
>>64764899>what language is that? stop doxing people, you indian homoIt's a vpn located in sweden so it's probably swedish
>>64768772so indian
>>64768790NordVPN released stats a while back and the highest users of Swede VPNs were in Detroit, Michigan.
>$999>aluminum>twisty knobs>shakeweighkSo what’s the koncensus?
>>64762362cry about it unc
>>64760955>>64763337>>64765477>>64765484>>64765501>>64765983Question is are they actually good? Or are they even worse as Chinkshit often is?
>>64768091Right, this is the core question. I have nothing inherent against buying cheaper clones (or even improvements) if they perform, and it's plenty of foreign players produce extremely high quality stuff but without the US MIC bullshit markup. But implementation details matter a lot for a holo sight and I wouldn't get something crap JUST to save money because they're still more expensive then a basic red dot, so if I purely wanted something budget I wouldn't go with one in the first place.
>>64766192can you post a pic of your t2?
>>64768091I wouldn't trust Chinese holosights unless they're established and have a global presence like Holosun. A reason why Holosun is so good now is because American consoomers essentially did most of the R&D for them.
Post some gun ideas you've had. Bonus for KelTec levels of madness.>modern SA/DA cartridge revolver w/swing-out cylinder but designed on Colt 1860 lines.
>>64757600That’s a cool idea
>>64757754>>64757758>levelToo late. Kel-tec is already putting a bubble level on a tube fed semi auto bullpup. Now you have no excuse for missing.
AK 108 but working and real, in 7.62x51USP Factory 10mmSteyr Scout but titanium, lighterXM8 but modernized
>>64758020>top break>martini Henry clonesMy nigga
>>64759371Can you wish for no jews next? I’ll buy you all the 10mm you want.
Why is it 9 pounds
because they hate you
heavy bull barrel, big stock with thick rubber spacers. Beyond that, 9 lbs is on the upper edge of a standard weight for a 5.56, most of them are about 8lbs.
>>64768758bull barrel. it came out during the awb so they sold it as a target rifle similar to an hbar ar
Will it ultimately be a cult hit like the AR-15?
>>64768745lmfao I remember when people were arguing for carrying around CQB uppers, like you'd be lugging around half of a rifle and be changing it in and out in the field. fucking fantasy bullshit that only a desk jockey would conjure up.
>>64768745Looking at a lot of the ideas behind the SCAR program or the marketing of the ACR, the notion that SF teams can configure their rifles to use the same AK mags as partner forces or that you could change your assault rifle to shoot 7.62 and use it as a DMR; it all sounds good on paper but the reality is that locally-sourced ammo cant be trusted and your want fundamentally different things from a carbine and a DMR. Certainly it can all be done and was, but you change so many things in the conversion that just carrying around complete ready to use guns becomes much more practical than lugging the conversion kits.
>>64768745I wouldn't say modularity is completely a meme, because I can just go and pick whatever stock and grip I want to perfect my ergos, and that's good. There's probably WAY more emphasis put onto it than actually makes any real sense, however.Swapping uppers? I could see a hypothetical appeal in that if you own a transferable/sample lower, but otherwise it's not that much extra cost to just put together that extra lower for a complete second gun.Ironically, then, swapping uppers is basically the best alternative to being able to just quickly swapping barrels for calibers, because if you've probably got differently zeroed sights and stuff for if you wanna go from .223 to .458 or whatever, maybe a different gas block and all...But why not just spend that little bit more money to give that upper its own lower anyway?It makes me think of the Stoner 63, how it could be assembled into all these different configurations, but what people using them really wanted the very most was the belt-fed LMG one (because they already had all the other stuff), so the Stoner 63 would have probably done WAY better if it had been designed around that single config and thrown that modularity gimmick to the win.Similar for H&K trying to mirror that a bit with the XM8, or the MagPul ACR having that quick caliber change setup (which Remington eventually dropped the ball on, lol).
>>64768756Bruh it lasted like all of a year in the civilian scene too, people would have their mk18 or DMR uppers that they insisted would just be casually swapped onto the actual lower they have but then they all realized that you could just buy a complete lower assembly for like $90 so....why not just skip the bullshit?
>>64768756That idea was 100% conjured up by a marketer, because he knew it would make the mallninjas cum.>>64768768OH RIGHT! I remember the fucking thing about sourcing goddamn 7.62x39mm in the field, BRO, OUR OPERATORS WILL BE ABLE TO USE CAPTURED AMMO! T-A-C-T-I-C-A-L!THEY'LL RESUPPLY THEMSELVES AS THEY FIGHT, JUST LIKE IN A VIDEOGAME!Testing random captured ammo from Derka-Derkas then shows that it's very often extremely sketchy indeed, and at no point did anyone stop to ask why the military with the strongest chain of logistics in history would ever need to desperately scrounge for garbage ammo from insurgents. I half suspect that this was an attempted backdoor by idiots who simply thought 7.62x39mm was a better cartridge and were hoping this could lead to further adoption.
which weapons would a modern day vampire hunter use? no wooden stakes, no crossbows, silver blades, no holy water flasks or garlic necklaces allowed, just modern cutting edge tech.
>>64754988UV cannon
>>64767737NTA but if they're fun? Hell yeah, motherfucker.
>>64767737where the fuck do you think you are? we watch cartoons if it has an enchanting plot and good voice acting. that's why Avatar Aang beats the shit out of Avatar Pocahontas despite all the billions of CGI and James Cameron knows it
>>64765634>>64765662Reckoning was shit, Vigil was way better.
>>64755096In Ultraviolet, you had to shoot them in the heart with the carbon-tipped bullets in order to dust them. Which wasn't easy to do with an old, powerful vampire.
USA spent on average 250 000 bullets per kill in Afghanistan & Iraq.
>>64767380that's the Taliban killing their own so that doesnt count
>>64764711haha right
>>64758657
>>64767065A tripod and a bipod are not the same things and are made to accomplish different tasks. They're at the opposite ends of the maneuverability and stability scale. A lighter tripod might do the job of a heavier tripod but no kind of bipod is going to do that same job.
>>64767380I honestly can't tell if this is bait.
Wish people talked about late-war allied ''wunderwaffe" more often, and not only about muh ''gaymun weapons''.>ASM-N-2 Bat>VT fuze>M3 Carbine>Sikorsky R-4>T26E4>Ryan FR Fireball>Centurion I>Comet I (A34)>F8F Bearcat>P80 Shooting star>Gloster meteorGet it through your fucking head Weheraboo niggers. Germans never stood a fucking chance.
>>64763430>this level of dogshit opinions Holy fuck how did you survive childhood.
>>64767889Nazis stole so little art Allied command was issuing guidelines on what to do when units would uncover caches of them
>>64768527>cosmic bomb>>the USAAF originally called cruise missiles "drones" before briefly switching to "pilotless bombers"that's new to me>robot bomboo yes I've heard that one
>>64768693Fun fact: the Titan I was originally the B-68 and the AIM-4 Falcon and the CIM-10 Bomarc the F-98 and F-99 respectively, because after all what is an air-to-air missile but a small pilotless fighter?
>>64768672inb4 the only reason anything was moved was to protect it from bombing or some other cope
What causes slavabooitis and how can it be cured?
>>64768496>artillery is its queen anywayspoken like someone whose country doesn't have a real air force
... i just like digiflora...also the correct answer is that the energy of their militaries is that of perpetual loss and Pyrrhism. Afghanistan, Chechnya, even Ukraine. it always looks like they're losing even if they're not (not a statement on the current war but idgaf this thread sucks already). the bleakness of it all coupled with the humanity of those in the meat grinder, there's something terribly attractive to it. it's not just about the country fighting, it's about the individual men fighting for their own survival in a system that treats them as expendable.it's definitely a feeling you also get in stuff like Stalker. you just don't get that vibe with western militaries.
>>64766982case-in-pointthis anon understands some psychology.I daydream and doodle about pop culture mil sci fi slop with this contrast among others, wishing to educate simpleton spergs about many things.Mainstream media makes this didactic cringe and faggy. But I believe it can be done well.Just have to make sure grownup Theater Kids aren't running the project.
>>64768763you say that like russian artillery hasn't been total shit since the Napoleonic wars
What causes slavabooitisThe inability for the human mind to grasp just how completely fucking bad ass the US is.and how can it be cured?Yes. Pay attention.
OH-6 Cayuse EditionOld: >>64759721
I didn't go shooting today but I cleaned my ar15 because I shot it like 3 months agoWon't go to the range tomorrow
>>64768704I need to rocksett my muzzle device to my barrel and hub adapter to my suppressor but I won't because I'm lazy and basically I'm never going to do it and I'm never going to the range, fuck it.
Fuck it, I might just smash the fuck out of this fucking piece of shit, too lazy to do anything with it anyway
>>6476859311.5 Dot + Mag with a can. Most gun fights you would ever be in would likely be with 50 yards making 1x ability the most important. Since your ops will look very similar to friendlies a magnifier will allow you to better identify friend from foe and allow you to scan further away while taking the rare shots out to distance as needed. A suppressor is needed to help occlude your shooting position. Return fire is a bad time. For a magnifier a 5x or 6x is going to be ideal since you can gather more visual information compared to the naked eye or with a lower powered mag. A 3x will allow you to focus on taking further shots better but does not really give you more visual information. I would still recommend a 10x bino for proper scanning but being able to scan with the gun ready to rock is important as well imo.
>>64768593any form of M16 clone
What is the best in class for each category? >HMG>MMG>LMG>GPMG>SAWyou can choose the same gun for multiple or all categories.I'd stick with>M2>M240>HK21kinda hard to choose a SAW I like all around more than aforementioned choices
Also the m2 is dog shit. The US just made a bizarre number of them so they became widespread gpmg.The m2 was never good in a gpmg role either, it's just that the US looked good for having so many mgs, fighting peasant forces who couldn't even field SAW.50. Bmg is not a good cartridge, it's not a good AM cartridge, not a good HMG cartridge. 7.62x39 is far better in all respects, and the M240B was far better then the m2.So the m2 was outclassed so badly that they all became gpmg, the role where their performance matters the least.
>>64761461>>64762851>own categoryThey fall into the LMG category
>>64768601>They fall into the LMG categoryAll SAW are LMG.
based on what I know about these not having shot any of them...>HMGprobably kord, m2 is good but it has weird quirks with headspacing/being heavy and whatnot. not sure how much m2a1 fixes that but it's still 30lbs heavier >MMGprobably mmg338 but i don't know how reliably they actually run. if they're no good, mg3/m240>LMGsame as above, but the m250 and hk4. i don't know how actually useful an m27 would be as a base of fire but they're also cool >GPMGm250/mg3 >SAWm250/hk4some chinese stuff might be pretty good too but nobody but the pla knows how good their stuff actually is for the most part. qjz-171 might be a contender for a very good mmg/hmg if it actually is good
>>64760470>>MMGStoner 63>>LMGStoner 63>>GPMGStoner 63>>SAWStoner 63
