Do you guys think actual dogfighting will ever come back? What technology/weapon developments would be necessary for this to happen?
>>64755276>Next step would be to ditch the canopy and go with cameras with automatic shutters all over the airframeYou probably want some shutters and stuff on the EO/FLIR/whatever but you're right that opaque cockpits are the future in this scenario.Are you sure you need optics in a dogfight though?I think it would be possible to design a sensor-fusion system that would give you situational awareness at dog-fighting ranges without necessarily needing blindable sensors.>>64755334>There's no margin where a human can see something but a sensor can't guide a missile into that somethingSure.The advantage of the fighter in that scenario isn't sensors, it's armour. Or at least having enough mass, active cooling and passive heat pumping to distribute thermal energy such that lasing it isn't very effective.>massive armoured missilesThat's a possibility, it makes your missiles chunky though so you do get back to WVR missile fights at least because your missiles need the fighter's fuel tanks to get within engagement range while still carrying armour etc. Their own fuel lasts less because of the added weight and adding bigger rocket motors means an even bigger missile and the rocket equation comes into effect.You're saying a fighter is a missile that kills with bullets but it's a much more efficient flying machine than a missile.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>64754198If we get a war between major powers and 100 planes are headed towards another 100 planes then yes, pleantly will be able to close through the BRV chaos and fight WVR with fox 2s and guns.If you mean will a flight of 4 getting into dogfights with another flight of 4 ever be common again then the answer is no.
>>64754198>F-16Reminder that the F-16 lost multiple times to the F-106 in training. In the first round they launched a Genie at them.
>>64755678Got a source for that? Probably be interesting to see how the training was set up like when the f22 was set up against the Rafael.
>>64754198The upcoming F-47 will be inferior to F-22 in pure dogfighting capabilities. It’s all about being networked and stealthy now. And having helper drones
Would going to an Appleseed course be worth it? I've never had any instruction in shooting and there's a few coming up within driving distance so the cost would be low. I'd use a 10/22 with an LVPO.It kind of seems like it's all old people and kids in the basic courses, though admittedly, that's probably better than getting there and finding a bunch of spergs my own age trying to look cool. I doubt I'll find a more accessible form of training but I'm not sure if this is the best format. Like how much is shooting and how much is just listening to the instructors give a history lesson?I also understand they put a lot of emphasis on sling use but the USGI sling they use seems pretty clunky from some of the videos I've seen so I may never swap to it but I do think having someone actually watching and give me feedback might help, especially if it's assumed I have no knowledge upon arrival.Anyone that's been to one want to give your impressions?
>>64753932>USGI sling they use seems pretty clunkyIt is only clunky or awkward if it is installed incorrectly or not adjusted for the shooter's arm length. The M1907 is the absolute best sling for marksmanship, once you grasp how to use it properly and have it adjusted for your rifle and arm. They will teach you how to do this at Appleseed. Go ahead and grab one before you go, they are cheap and readily available on ebay/amazon.
>>64755698Meant to add, and make sure you have sling swivels installed on your rifle, and loops that will fit the sling. M1907s are widerer than a lot of modern slings, IRC they need a 1.5 or 2 in loop instead of the 1in that comes on a lot of modern rifles. Don't bother trying to put the sling on before you go, just take it with you and an instructor will show you how to set it up.
Will you learn anything useful? No. But it's a day at the range and maybe you'll meet a new friend. If it's cheap, you should go. Don't spend real money on it though, if they want like 200 dollars or some shit, stay home and whack off instead
Don't do it OP there's cyanide in them! You have so much to live for!
>>64755768>You have so much to live for!Think of all the waifus you haven't fapped to?
Writefag here, I’m looking for real “out there” firearms that are advanced looking but not too impractical for my sci-fi setting.
>>64754907There are a bunch of reasons.>what they brought >what they can build>what they're ALLOWED I have a hombrew Traveler setting called Shattered Stars:Final Frontline where the Terran Hegemony (spess UN/NATO in spessss) where military technology is kept under STRICT control, the real good shit (powered armor, railguns, plasma weapons, laser weapons, particle beams, manpack hyper velocity missiles) are a Hegemony thing only, trying to possess, manufacture, or buy these items are a great way to get glassed from orbit.
Drone killer
Kel-Tek specializes in spaceguns OP, you could arm a whole separist faction from their website
>>64754660>cowboy-esque setting within a divided galaxyNo one cares about your Firefly fanfic.
>>64754777The ayylmao is old hat. The dragon is the new hot thang.
>880,000 dog attacks in the US of A requiring medical attention last year>Cannot be reasoned with in any capacity as opposed to most criminals that usually just want to steal your shit and will back off if they decide they can victimize someone else easierWhat calibers and firearms do you carry to protect against the pitter scurge? Shot placement?Keep in mind you may be in situations where you have to stop a loose shit bull from tearing some bystanders face off and over penetration is an actual concern when it's lockjawed onto that poor soul.
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>>64755536Your trash ass, pit fighting dog is inherently aggressive. It will turn on you one day. It's in its DNA. Even if you say it won't, it 100% will. Most people also feel relaxed around cats. No one relaxes around shitbulls.Not to say you aren't just baiting anyway, but I'd rather be around cats than a wild alligator-dog who would turn on you if you so much as made the wrong movement or looked at it funny.
>>64754436> These things are a fucking menace and there's no solution because white people are retarded and won't regulate poor cute little puppers. The only way to win is to be prepareYou are brown and most shitbull owners are black or black fucking coal burners
>>64752904>What calibers and firearms do you carry to protect against the pitter scurge?Unironically just carry a bigass knife. Discharging your firearm means the police will get called, and then it turns into a whole shitshow. Stabbing or cutting Fido will kill it or make it fuck off, and it will be harder to paint you as a psycho who wanted to shoot an innocent dog since the dog would obviously have to be within arm's reach for you to stab it. It gives you plausible deniability. Remember that you can cut something a little but, but you can't shoot something a little bit. You're also less likely to injure an innocent bystander with a knife vs a gun if the dog is latched onto a kid.
>>64755726>vs a gun if the dog is latched onto a kid.If a dog is latched onto you or a kid you shoot it execution style in the heart from inches away, you don't step back and play target practice. That way there's no chance you'll miss vitals or hit someone or something behind the dog.
Anyone else going to the Muncie gun show Indiana
>>64750311Was Paige worth it?
>>64750993boomers trust the boob toob implicitly
Well I hope to run into one of you guys
Indiana mentioned?
>>64752595Why 3 tits tho? I fully respect putting big ol' tiddies on smexy snake ladies, but why more than two?
This changes everything.https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/indonesia-rafale-fighter-jets-depart-france-airpower-shift-southeast-asia/
>>64751633Australians are living too good a life to want to invade your shithole, which means you will probably invade Aus in your hypothetical, which will probably mean you will be deleted from your islands via tactical nuclear weapons due to Aus being the main resource hub for not only Indonesia but the entire world.You don't attack the country sending you the iron ore needed to build your military.Given that you believe in stupid prophesies you are probably dumb enough to believe this superpower cope though.
>>64754190Indonesia has no real enemies. Otherwise, you would have seen realistic approaches, and also Indonesia is not thinking about the global security has been changed after the pandemic, their doctrine is probably still 20/30 years old.
>>64754235Indonesia is not merely neutral, their foreign policy is officially "bebas dan aktif" (independent and active), which means striving towards regional hegemony over their Southeast Asian neighbors and Australia, and to reach parity with superpowers such as the US and China, the way India is trying to establish itself in South Asia
>>64754481>the way India is trying to establish itself in South Asiakek.
>>64754481>"bebas dan aktif">independent>2/3 of the words are just mangled Dutch
Gasses you*
>inhale
>>64755642Degen shizz.
>>64755693Faggot
>>64755716>>64755744>>64755737>>64755689>>64755693Im talking about gas grenades
>>64755642Thats a man
>French army testing the Hermione hydrogen-powered UGV that refuels in just three minutes, carries up to 300 kilograms of payload, and operates for 20 hours with all-wheel drive mobility (by Polish P.H.U. Lechmar and French H2X-Defense)
>>64755672The eyebrows give it a lot of character.>>64755681I mean, violently exploding is a bit less of an issue for a drone. What's the use-case for it, anyhow? Strap a fiddy cal and an ATGM to the top?
>>64755699> The demonstrator presented in Kielce was in a drone-carrier configuration, offering a payload capacity of 300 kilograms (661 pounds). While the specific drone types it can support have not been disclosed, the capacity suggests flexibility for a range of aerial systems.>Other Hermione models are designed for medium- and heavy-lift roles, capable of carrying 600 kilograms (1,323 pounds) and up to 2 tons (1,814 kilograms) of cargo.They are also talking about mounting RCWS on it. The big differentiator compared to other UGVs is the fact that it's hydrogen-powered, I guess. Time will tell if the energy density and rapid refuelling outweigh the problem of having to load or produce hydrogen at your supply point.
>>64755672Does it give you a smug look and say "levi-OH-sa" at you?
>>64755724>RonALD WEAsley...........>it's LevioSaaahhhhhh
>>64755672looks like a coffin on wheels
chinks are selling drone jammers for like 1000 bucksis it legal to own one of these in louisiana? also how effective would these be against retards with fpvs or glowniggers flying their shit around my property?
>>64755608Only if it's somewhere that'll bother a random passersby. You could probably get away with it if the area affected is entirely on your property since it's not inherently dangerous and if someone loses a drone you can ask why they were flying a drone over your property without permission.
>>64755632yeah but you would probably be jamming yourself if you don't know enough about frequencies
>>64755637If it's a drone jammer it would only jam drone frequencies. Turn it off before flying any drones and you're golden.
>>64755632People don't need your permission to fly over your property. You don't own the airspace. The only time they might run into legal issues is if they're recording or loitering over your yard or house. Power company inspection drones fly over my property at least once per month and spend more time over my my boomer neighbor's larger lot and it pisses him off but he has contacted all manner of agency and they've all told him fuck off it's legal.
>>64755240Shut the fuck up Roger.
Wouldn't people just recognize they're soldiers just by their pants, shoes, groups, muscular build, where they came from and political situation?
>>64754175>Sperging out over patterns is a /k/ thingPerfect. Found Finnish M05 Snow that is a one-off reproduction jacket that seems my size. Might just get that to start with. No idea what I'll do for pants but I wish you didn't have to be a soldier to legally own clothes that cheap and that good. It's just not fair.
>>64753175>Since apparently asking about military uniforms is ok on /k/, can I get away with making a threadThere is nearly always a camo/uniform/milsurp thread up on /k/ on any given day, just post there unless you're opening a big topic that isn't covered.I think there's usually a camo general or something that hunters like to chat in.
>>64753447M84 hasn't been in active service for years, and wearing it sterile is unlikely to get any frowns, let alone fines. Wearing the desert M01 under any circumstance is autistically frowned on by the vets unless you got it issuedIIRC, fines are only issued if you can reasonably be thought to be impersonating a soldier (so presumably full uniform with insignia). I've never heard of anyone getting fined for wearing a pair of M84 pants while hiking or his Arktis jacket off duty or whatever.
>>64754997>Found Finnish M05 Snow that is a one-off reproductionYou can get all kinds of M05 Snow brand new from sites like varusteleka and origopro.
>>64752335>muscular buildThis nigga think soldiers are UFC fightersSoldiers arent mean to be jacked, let alone modern soldiersThey arent meant for this shitEven combat sport athletes arent supposed to be hyper muscular, otherwise they gas out quickly and get BTFO apart if they are under some sort of PEDsAlso venezuelans where absolute shit but this Lmao this zoomer subhuman cuck is so retardedModern soldiers are weakling cucks who cant fightNobody is afraid of some soldier/spec ops operator apart from some retarded teenagersModern industrial war is won by budget and technology (since ww1)
The T-34 is the best tank of World War II. What about airplanes? According to /k/
>>64739437It is a beautiful machine.
>>64739430The only surviving one sat in the Smithsonian for almost 10 years with the explosives to separate the tail still inside.
>>64753203Saying the Swordfish contributed more than the Imperial Japanese Navy Air Service would be a comparison of the two, as it is comparing the contributions of each.
If I were to pick the best I'd say 109. Just overall solid. But if I were to pick my favorite it would be the Shiden.
>>64751928And it was a minor modification (new engine) by a different company, really not a new design, even the F4F -> F6F had more changes despite being just an incremental improvement.
Each had at least 100+ killshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_flying_aces#Table
>>64755035Or more importantly: Why has OP created a second thread about this when he already got the canonical answer: Russians only count as 1/3 of a man
>>64755273of course they were going back to teach.read rudels biography, he spent half the war teaching.Hitler forbade high scoring aces to fly not to lose a propaganda figure. and of course these grounded pilots were instructing new pilots then.is this germans never rotated pilots some history channel bullshit?
>>64755379nice story bro
>>64755639Nayrt but this is all borne out by comparing squadron and individual kill statistics, and in reports by concerned Luftwaffe commanders themselvesMost notably, Hans-Joachim Marseille's squadron was so busy meat-shielding him that despite his spectacular individual kill count, his squadron was solidly average and did not shoot down more planes than any other Luftwaffe or Allied squadron in AfricaThe same phenomenon was observed on average across all of the Luftwaffe, from 1940 to 45Now go away you clueless mong
>>64755335They gave their women to them>>64754844Thats a nordic/germanicAryans are slavs/sarmatians or even more related to turkics
>go to https://catalog.archives.gov/search?availableOnline=true&endDate=1949&page=1&q=German%20aircraft&startDate=1940>search some relevant term to your interests>make sure to set filters to "available to access online" and filter for the year range>bring back something cool
>>64753854>Damn those gunners had good aim for just using the MK.1 eyeballThey're targetting a rocket assisted glide bomb so it's basically a missile with exhaust and flare, probably a bit easier than targetting a dive bomb. A more horizontal trajectory too and more time to engage.
>>64754023>Horse-pack radioThere are modern Russian versions of this with starlink.
cool stuff. here's bubba with some nk soldiers
>>64751431>>64751446nicesemi-related to the thread - american officers in finland, around the time of winter war, courtesy of finnish national archive
>>64755577>around the time of winter warNot a lot of snow that winter huh
The sharpest thread on /k/.Underrated Knives Edition
>>64752048I really don't want to go overboard with excessive consumption. Socrates guides us>moderation in all thingsHe was a great philosopher from history.
>>64751939imo mushroom knives are kinda pointless, they're just a small blade with a little brush. when I go picking mushrooms i take my Spyderco Byrd CaraCara2.they're soft little things, any knife will do. and if you find something like a big Sparassis crispa ("Cauliflower Mushroom", pic related) as I have before, you're gonna need plenty of blade length to even reach under there.a curved spoon carving knife makes sense if you make use of it, it at least offers a function a normal straight blade doesn't have.
Oh shit niggershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wLVHmqNBTA
my employer is sending me to the ghetto next few weeks. I have a few boxes of match ammo at my disposal and nothing else. how viable would it be in a self defense situation?
>>64754900They're bullets anon, whoever you end up blasting isn't going to enjoy it
>>64754900I'm confused, are you too poor to afford a box of 9mm? What firearm?
>>64754900On the one hand, it's a bullet. It will put a hole in someone if you shoot them with it. On the other, that's not exactly an ideal load to carry, for several reasons.Most "match" ammunition is loaded to just above the minimum velocity and energy levels required to meet most "power factor" requirements, so that the shooter can focus on pulling the trigger and not managing recoil. They're also usually loaded with light round nose bullets. They won't expand, and they won't have a lot of ass behind them.If you're really worried, just go buy about 50 defensive loads, shoot a couple magazines so you aren't surprised by the recoil in an emergency, and then carry the rest in your gun. They're not that expensive if you aren't blowing them in bulk shooting drills with them.
You have a few weeks until you do this and you don't have time or money to go buy a box or two of hp's?
