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/arg/ tard containment

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Gunsoom

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I just don’t like eotechs
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Pastebin
https://rentry.org/sa6c4m

Summary
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>>62765383
I used to
Then my vz58 zero moved about 1.5ft
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Good morning assault rifle 15 general. I hope you all have a happy FF
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It's Friday, it should be FF Edition thread
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>>62765376
What smoke grenade can I buy that's actually worth it?
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I side with the Furmen because their presence on /arg/ is stronger than the Animecians
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>>62765398
ATF banned them all unless you get a pyrotechnic license.

a2 used to post smoke-making guide but i think he stopped for (fed) reasons
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>>62765376
>page 3
Jesus christ you faggot slow the fuck down. Been quiet for a long time but some of you are such cancer it's hard to remain.
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>>62765417
ATF only banned specific models
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>>62765422
Raw (sewage)
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>>62765423
yeah, the ones actually worth a shit.
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>>62765398
M18s off GunBroker for $300 each
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>>62765422
You’d think someone who doesn’t even shoot but still spends tens of thousands on gunsooming to seek validation from (Yous) would at least have something cool
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>>62765422
this is the worst paint job I've ever seen
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>>62765428
EG18X is basically the same as the MIL-X but with a wire pull instead. They’re unironically fine.
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>>62765419
Calm your tits
>>62765392
>>62765394
>>62765403
>.>
Go back
>>62765398
I miss grenade-anons hijinks
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>>62765446
wire pulls will always be less reliable due to the potential for operator error. and that one isnt waterproof so it's stupid to put on your kit

airsoft-match tier
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>>62765398
The enola gaye mil-x were awesome but they got ATF’d. enola gaye still makes some pull string ones that are fine.
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>>62765392
AI is getting so realistic it’s soon going to be almost impossible to tell what videos are fake or real.
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Anyone ever use rearden for hub cans?
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>>62765477
Lol
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>>62765502
Just give it 5 years anon
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>>62765502
Go check on the Facebook boomers they believe everything
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>>62765502
When I’m gooning to an indistinguishably realistic AI trump x kamala tape I’ll have the last laugh.
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For the anon who asked about Geissele HBAR uppers
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>>62765513
For me it’s AOC
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>>62765522
Nigga he responded last thread
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>>62765522
Chat, be honest, are these retarded?
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>>62765530
>I need a heavy barrel for a semi auto rifle I will never use to make youtube goyslop meltdown videos
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>>62765522
The rail sucks, I hate flat bar triggers and their prone to snapping, they have had issues with the chrome flaking on their barrels in the past, I like the b5 stock
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>>62765527
Oh. I missed it sorry
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>>62765545
>their
yes you totally seem like a high IQ and informed man
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>>62765522
i hope they put THICK gas tubes on them or it's all pointless. agree with the flat trigger thing.
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>>62765530
Less barrel whip, possibly more consistent or less severe heat stringing, overall more accurate barrel potential. Also some ban states require hbar so you can't install le ebil grenade launcher or bayonet.
Honestly it's not necessary for spr unless you're literally splitting hairs. Any well made and lapped taper barrel will work fine, as G$ already showed.
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>>62765567
Whatever fgt I’m at work I’m not paying attention to 4chan I know the difference between their, there, and they’re. Your just butthurt cuz I’m a bendy bill hater because he’s a little spergy fgt who gets mogged by mark
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>>62765587
Oh shit I did it again!!!! I said your instead of you’re I guess that totally invalidates what I said o fuck!!!!
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>>62765571
They do, and flat triggers are gay
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>>62765579
when i was noob i thought thick barrels were retarded for AR15's. but since everyone is free floating these days barrel rigidity is way more important. especially since everyone is also suppressing which makes the barrel wobble/harmonics problem even worse.

most dudes will shoot a 5 shot group from cold and think everything is fine. ive seen a lot of guns that heatstring horribly or go to 6MOA after 2 mags.
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>>62765587
>Your
You're so triggered by Bill you can't even type straight. Go to bed mark
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>>62765612
Gotta defend muh shitty trendy purchase because I fucked up and shoulda bought a bcm blem or dd
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>>62765631
No need to say "BCM blem" you can just say BCM. G$ has the decency to charge less for blems at least
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>>62765639
Bcm does to you fucking retard, you would know that if you took bills cocknout of your mouth and didn’t just buy what Reddit told you
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>>62765631
>paying more for a worse barrel and less efficient gas system
lol
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>>62765668
>cocknout
is that like coffee or something?
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>>62765684
I’ll take Dsa,bcm bfh, fn, or dd barrels over bendy barrels any day
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this place is still exactly the same
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>>62765383
Okay so I'm conflicted. I used to HATE eotechs, vehemently. The thermal drift shit, the lying about the thermal drift shit, the not fixing the thermal drift shit, the thermal drift cope card... The size, the weight, the COST. Can't switch reticles, battery life SUCKS. They're not that durable.
But now that I'm prioritizing passive NVG aiming more, they're more attractive. IMO the Holosun AEMS does really really well both objectively and for its pricepoint for passive NVG aiming, but the Eotech is just slightly better. What really has me thinking Eotech now is that I got a G45 magnifier. I like it, simple as, BUT the AEMS dot is a pretty shitty mess under magnification, and the messy dot feels like the main limit to POA precision when using the AEMS and G45 combination. I looked at my EXPS 3-4 which is on my SBS VP12 shotgun through the G45, and I was very pleased with how much more precise the POA is with the Eotech dot vs the AEMS.

Is the more previse POA under magnification, and the slightly better passive NVG performance worth the size, weight, reduced battery life, non-switchable reticles, reduced reliability and durability, and the increased cost?
I really don't know.

>>62765587
>I'm not paying attention to grammar nor spelling
If correct grammar and spelling aren't legitimately a matter of passive consideration in your mind, then you are indeed low IQ.
>mogged by mark
Okay maybe you're actually just a poet

>>62765706
Some things are as old as time
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>>62765597
Should take that cold bore shot, dump the mag in the berm, then shoot 4 more. See where you're really at.
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>>62765705
You could, but I wouldn't
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>>62765712
Eotechs are one of the things which sound stupid on paper until you actually use them.
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>>62765597
I’ve seen this. SPRs should have a heavy barrel imo. I wish the KACs profile was a bit heavier but I haven’t had any issues with it stringing.
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>>62765706
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
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Anyone here have a Velos K? Wondering how it performs on 10.3
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is this the average AR-15 and competition enjoyer in 2024?
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>>62765735
I wouldn’t. The difference in flash performance between the full size and K is nuts. The K is very flashy while the full size is literally better than an RC2. If you want something around K sized on a 10.3-11.5 look at the CAT WB otherwise get the full sized velos.
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>>62765735
Velos K is probably a solid choice can based off of all the reviews I've seen and read, especially if you're already into ASR.
It is a bit heavy though.
Check out the CAT WB, and also I just learned about these the other day, FOR Systems Monarch Recce Inconel.
I haven't used or heard or shot or held ANY of these cans, but they seem solid in terms of what I'm seeing/reading on the interbutts.

>>62765726
All barrels should be fluted IMO

>>62765725
It is conflicting for sure.

>>62765730
How is Arizona? Did you know New Mexico literally has the lowest average IQ of any state in the ENTIRE union? And that is with Intel, Los Alamos, Sandia, AFRL, and the Air Force base inflating the numbers...
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>>62765743
Can you not, please
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>>62765763
I think that one is an actual woman
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>>62765712
Why not a t2? Tbh I’d use an sro with a jagerworx shroud thing before I’d use an eotech
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>>62765769
Eh. T2s aren't bad. Not my favorite. Expensive, and the "frame" of the window, the housing and the battery/brightness knob, occludes a fair bit of the FOV, plus the glass isn't the most color neutral, not that the AEMS is better.
>sro with jagerworx shroud
Interesting take. Why would you take that over an Eotech? Eotech reliability?
SRO certainly is going to give you the best "floating dot" look.
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>>62765761
monarch recce performs almost exactly the same as the CAT WB I could barely tell the difference.
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>>62765712
>roland special in 2024
cmon wuggy you can do better than that
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>>62765398
Anon, we need to cook
Get your notebook ready
>>62765769
Because he cant make a good decision
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>>62765705
okay
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>>62765761
Why not an 8T? Sigger memes aside it’s a better red dot than the eotech
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how do you do fellow tripod enjoyers
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>>62765790
>8t
Go go gadget forward reflection target indicator
>>62765792
Good leg choice desu
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>>62765780
You heard both? That is super cool, really. On what hosts? Do tell more. The Monarch Recce is lighter than shorter than the WB I believe, plus I like the feel of the company a lot more.

>>62765783
I think I've got nearing 15k rounds through my two iterations of Roland specials and I like em, simple as. Am curious though, what are you thinking these days for "sidearm"?

>>62765785
>A2 pre covfefe bully
smdh

>>62765790
>sigger memes aside
No such thing. There is no redeeming of sig.

>>62765792
>roach spray and alcohol
pottery
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>>62765790
That's just a holomeme 512 in a box tho
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>>62765712
i think eotechs are fine, my only issue with them has been weight and the fact that they auto-off which is bad for a bedside gun. But for NV theyre great, even better than a T2. and theyre the only truly viable way to run a magnifier imo.
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>>62765712
>>62765725
The T2 is better for NV passive aiming and I am willing to die on this hill.
>eotech gives you a massive 68 moa ring with a dot inside of it that obscures targets
>T2 is a simple dot
Passive aiming is also very finicky. The dot might look good then you put it over a target and it washes out completely.
The EOtech requires you to fuck around with the up/down buttons which you can't see and are hard to manipulate if you're wearing gloves.
The T2 just gives you a basic dial. You turn it towards you or away from you there's nothing to fuck up and it won't kick you out of NV mode into daylight mode if you press the wrong thing.

Take the battery life out of it because both are long enough that it's a dumb thing to care about. CR123s aren't hard to come by and it's not hard to change a battery. If someone can't handle routine battery maintenance their opinion is irrelevant.
The T2 is still
>significantly lighter
>significantly easier to adjust brightness on the fly
>doesn't change zero based on temperature
>better for night vision use
>a way more practical and less annoying reticle to deal with
>more versatile as it can be used as a secondary sighting system on a prism/scope set up
Try both and make your own opinion but in my experience with using both I will likely never go back to the eotech because it doesn't offer me any benefits whatsoever to the T2
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>>62765778
No tint, barely visible frame, actually looks good under magnifier, light weight, I don’t mind open emitters on rifles ymmv, I trust the durability of it with the shroud as much as anything shy of an aimpoint/elcan/acog, the glass isn’t gonna delam
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>>62765743
Gonna have to watch this later
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>>62765811
>weight
Really
>>62765828
Eokek big window
That's the only advantage for passive
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>>62765828
Tbh less glass surface on t2 also a nicer experience.
>MUH GLASS CLARITY MUDDAFUKKA
You know whats even more clear than eotech glass that has been spattered with mud and shit all day? Nothing at all

T2 is based and so is this post, case closed.
>>62765838
>muh window muddafukkkkka
Retard alert
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>>62765761
>How is Arizona?
Like anywhere else, there's parts that are super nice and some areas that are trash. Overall it's pretty good. Phoenix is growing a lot which kinda blows, but means consistent work.
Lots of ranges, and areas to shoot in the desert 30minutes from the city.
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>>62765450
I take one (1) day out of the week (not even as OP) and your reaction is "Go back"? I've had it with this unfair treatment
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>>62765805
Both on the same 11.5 using rearden hub mount. They perform about the same when it comes to sound and backpressure but I know for a fact the CAT WB does spectacularly with flash while I haven’t seen the monarch recce at night yet.
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>>62765838
>Really
11.2 ounces for a red dot. thats almost acog weight
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>>62765811
>only truly viable way to run a magnifier
Yeah I think I'm starting to think similar, especially for a higher magnification magnifier, 4x or 5x.
>auto-off which is bad for a bedside gun
Good point actually
>weight
Honestly not my biggest gripe with them. My biggest gripe is reliability and durability

>>62765828
>T2 better for NV passive
Better than what? An eotech? Why? The ring obscuring is a fair point, but when it comes to obscuring targets, the T2 housing isn't great either
>Buttons vs dial
Fair point. Adjusting dot brightness during passive NVG is definitely important. I haven't messed with my EXPS brightness settings while under NVG wearing gloves. I have with the AEMS and it is definitely a bitch.
>routine battery maintenance
Confirmed not fantasizing about SHTF enough, but not an unfair point.

">significantly lighter
>significantly easier to adjust brightness on the fly
>doesn't change zero based on temperature
>better for night vision use
>a way more practical and less annoying reticle to deal with
>more versatile as it can be used as a secondary sighting system on a prism/scope set up"
Good points, really

>>62765834
Fugg. It is hard to say. I need to get another EXPS anyway for a CQBR "Block 2.5" build so I can try it on that.

>>62765857
Very cool, thanks
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>>62765854
I appreciate your work, pastebinanon
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>>62765761
>all barrels should be fluted
I agree with that statement. I’m amazed more don’t esp seeing KAC has begun to dimple their barrels
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>>62765785
The last time I tried to make smoke I was 13 years old and bought salt peter from the CVS pharmacist. The pot overheated and ignited the mix sending molten sugar all over my arm.
General idea is perforated copper tube down the middle and ignition from the bottom up, correct? Where to source canisters and pull pin tops?
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>>62765877
Simple cost of mfg
>>62765867
>the T2 housing isn't great either
Total area of NV obscured is greater on eotech. The fabled "big window" + housing is significantly larger area than > Tiny T2 window + housing (duh). In a clean room yes the glass makes marginal difference, but bad news bro you outside.

Strongest point for eotech is the aiming point that approaches infinity but it becomes hard to modulate for precision with the 65moa retard ring around it.
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>>62765874
Thanks, KC~
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>>62765897
thats why you buy the single-dot model eotechs. not the ring reticle eotechs
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>>62765867
I really don’t understand clone builds, I just wanna roll my own to suit my needs (which are really just wants)
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>>62765834
Mud will come to visit your open emitter
>>62765842
A bigger window is a bigger window
That's the only redeeming quality
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>>62765922
It’s all about getting raw operator cred and getting to call everything that isn’t some gwot clone a reddit build
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>>62765867
>...but when it comes to obscuring targets, the T2 housing isn't great either
nigga have you ever used nods? there is no visible housing
> I haven't messed with my EXPS brightness settings while under NVG wearing gloves.
yeah wait until you do it's fucking retarded.
The most useful aspect of training with nods is nothing to do with learning your LAM holds at 10y and everything to do with finding out how much something sucks to use in the dark and then fixing it or replacing it with something that doesn't.
>Confirmed not fantasizing about SHTF enough, but not an unfair point.
In the time it takes for le boogaloo meme to manifest you could spend so much time training with any red dot that you memorized the reticle and holds and don't even need a battery anymore.
>Yeah I think I'm starting to think similar, especially for a higher magnification magnifier, 4x or 5x.
Turn the brightness down / adjust diopter and if that's still not good enough for you then just accept the reality that it's bad practice to pick the inferior red dot which you are using 95% of the time by itself so you can have a slightly less shitty experience when using the magnifier the other 5% of the time.
Also, just use a G33
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>>62765915
That's why you just get a T2 instead of taking 3 lefts to make a right
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>>62765944
I would want an open emitter on a holstered/concealed handgun but I’ve never had an issue with them outside of a fucking blizzard and all I had to do was wipe it off. I don’t know what’s wrong with me but I think I like shooting in fucked up weather more than a nice sunny day
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>>62765953
>magnifier
most red dots blob out or just perform like shit under magnification. even the t2 is kinda mid. eokek does work better with a magnifier. magnifiers cockblock passing aiming even when folded down so i dont use them.
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>>62765712
>switchable reticle
God you're such a fucking joke.
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>>62765894
>Sugar mix
All sugar based smokes (milx, iwa , taggin, etc) are wholly inferior chemical compositions that are literally only for toy smoke grenades anon. They sell you it because its much harder to die of inhaling sugar smoke in an enclosed space. The hot nature of sugar and fast burn rate gives you a wispy smoke that wants to blow up and away almost immedaitely. Fucking TERRIBLE for screening. Airsoft smokes are airsoft optic tier.

Proper M8/M18s use/used HC (Hexachloroethane) rather than sugar base. Pro of HC is that it pulls moisture out of the air around you to make the mixture cooler and more dense. HC sits over the ground like a thick peasoup fog and is blowing. Now the downside of HC is that when inhaled it will react with the water in your lungs and form acid resulting in you dying in an enclosed space. Like couple people die every other year from setting off an M18 indoors and just zonking out. As a solution a lot are moving to TA based smoke which burns Terephthalic Acid over a simple oxidizer. Resulting smoke is basically just CO and formaldehyde but is drastically thicker. Cooking up TA is also a lot easier and safer in home lab quantities.

Housing wise its shrimple. You print a PETG housing and line it with an ablative cardboard tubing inner. Think section of poster tube within a plastic can. Prime and strike with a simple mechanism to some doped time fuse. Easy ignition and production fully inhouse vs relying on surplus/fired housings from gunbroker.
>>62765944
it shrimply isnt.
Bigwindow posting originated from PVS14 mounted behind the optic allowing for a greater FOV thru the PVS14 than the M68 CCO it was replacing.

You doing that?
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>>62765974
There's no way around magnifiers not sucking and I just don't see how a slightly less worse experience with the magnifier which really shouldn't be used that much anyway justifies having a much worse experience the vast majority of the using the dot as intended.
If we are caring so much for low/intermediate magnification then red dot wasn't the right choice and we should consider other options.
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>>62765973
Wouldnt***
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>>62765790
Technically true because the eotech is not a red dot iz a lay-sir
>>62765799
They don't know what that means. They don't know it's a selling point on the eotech, they also sit in their room look at the reticle and complain that it looks fuzzy.
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>>62765990
It's easier to passive through a bigger window
It just changes the skill floor
The rest of it is a mess with the huge ring obscuring the target
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>>62766016
Do you often have issues lining the red dot up with your head during the day?
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>>62765973
i had a open emitter holosun508T for awhile, it was on a G17 and whenever it rained, the dot would fill with water. it wouldnt work until i shook it out. i think open emitter is best for CCW's. Definitely not for open carry though

>>62765999
most people who think magnifiers suck ass, used either a standard red dot, or used a cheap magnifier. the only time they objectively suck is in bad weather because you have a quad lens stack that amplifies the mist/fogging problem.
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>>62766031
No
Lenses being offset from your face 4" can introduce a parallax factor
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>>62766049
>Parallax from nods
Really anon? You line your head up with the dot by looking at the red dot?

Close your eyes, bring the rifle up and then open your eyes. Where does it end up?
If its not centered on your eye you have an actual training/skill issue and need to hit the range. If it is centered, why are you worried about a big window? You would never accept "heh just gotta move the ol head around, maybe get some new irons that are physically larger!" on a pistol draw stroke. Why are you doing it on a rifle ?
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>>62765376
Had a round that was extra spicy and shot out a huge fire ball and now my rifle wont group at 50 yards.
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Reptilia aug or badger comm (both in 1.7)
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>>62766071
>skill issue
It's a bigger window
It makes passive easier
That's it
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>>62766100
1.5 comm
>>62766101
If youre fucking up, youre fucking up
But by all means attempt to hardware your way out of it.

Big window posters the kind of retards to be dot focused
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>>62766114
Let me guess, you thing big windows on handgun red dots are a meme too?
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>>62766100
Geissele blem next week
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>>62766134
They absolutely are
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>>62766143
Look we get it you don’t shoot comps
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>>62765877
Saved image
>a very stumpy fin
Kek. Look at this picture of this "fluted" Deadshot barrel. No thanks.

>>62765897
Total area greater but that total area is further from the important real estate. Also I'm not 100% sure but I think with a basic ray optics analysis you can argue that the larger area window allows more light into the tube that is right behind the optic, at least more light of interest that is coming from around/near the target.

>>62765922
Clone builds are about fun and aesthetics and history. At their worst they're about "stamp collecting".
I like both cloning and modern optimized builds with zero attention paid to aesthetics.

>>62765953
>no visible housing
There is the blurry outline of housing, and the area down range that is obscured by said blurry outline. On a T2 that blurry outline is closer to the target area of interest, and on an Eotech that blurry window frame is further away from the target area of interest. On an SRO that blurry window frame basically goes to zero area because the frame is so thin.
>LAM holds at 10y
Yeah I don't care much about this
>sucks to use in the dark
I agree entirely, this is the main thing you're learning.
>turn brightness down
Turned it way way down, still messy. If it is 95% vs 5% then yeah who cares about the messy dot under magnification, but it might not necessarily be 95/5. Might be 50/50. I simply don't know.

>>62765974
> magnifiers cockblock passing aiming even when folded down so i dont use them.
I was messing with this the other evening. It definitely bumps, but IMO IME it wasn't unusable. That being said as you NOD up, you could easily QD the magnifier off.
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I need tripod reccs
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>>62766114
>dot focused
>skill issue
>etc
Not sure how many times we have to go in circles on this. The larger the optic, the bigger cone you've got to work around "skill issues" and awkward positions. The dot I normally use for passive is even smaller than T2. It's simple physics that a bigger window gives you better flexibility for passive.
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>>62766100
Badger for sure

>>62766143
>>62766134
On a handgun they help a ton

>>62766162
Also I believe that in terms of light collection, the larger aperture legitimately increases brightness of the target area
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>>62766154
>Total area greater but that total area is further from the important real estate
Exactly, who gives a shit about it ?
>>62766134
Give me the enclosed emitter
>>62766175
>Also I believe that in terms of light collection, the larger aperture legitimately increases brightness of the target area
Its still a red dot wugger, you should still seek target focus with superimposed reticle drifting across it.
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Window size doesn’t matter much on a rifle since you have additional points of contact that let you maintain consistent positioning behind the red dot. On a handgun you do not so when doing dynamic shooting it’s easier to lose the red dot. A2 will argue against this.
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>>62766114
>recommends badger
>posts reptilia
A2 pls
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>>62766162
>ot sure how many times we have to go in circles on this
/arg/ will never accept that personal preferences exist
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>>62765805
Probably a sig shill or pdp flavor of the month fashion victim, glock is eternal.
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>running open emitter outside of adult day care (indoor range)
oh I thought it was just a meme
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Is the rcr approved by A2
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>>62766187
/arg/ prefers 2D over 3D women
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>>62766200
probably
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>>62766195
People have been running RMRs on ACOGs outside for years and it's fine.
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>>62766200
Absolutely not because it actually works. I approve it though. Does my approval mean anything to you?
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>>62766201
And dead ones apparently
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>>62766201
>arg are trannies
Always have been
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>>62766200
>it’s bad because uhhh tint and uhhhh the mounting system just buy an acro mine is perfectly fine
There I saved him from responding.
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>>62765915
The thing that wasn't available until like two years ago that thing? Dumbass.
Inb4 muh special special special forces had it a long time ago in small numbers for a short time!
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Are competition shooters all retards?
They've all got those bigass SROs and 507comps and shit
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>>62766162
You can get better
You cant make the eotech less shitty no matter how hard you try
>>62766183
>A2 will argue against this.
Who are you quoting?
>>62766195
Its difficult man.
>>62766200
it’s bad because uhhh tint and uhhhh the mounting system just buy an acro
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>>62766234
>just buy an acro
There's no way A2 actually said this
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>>62766228
I see anons lusting over anime waifus and furries yet I don’t bat an eye. I see KCanon lusting over a dead woman and it creeps me out. idk why I’m like this.
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>>62766100
Whichever one you find at the best price first. Rooftop had a 70$ discount on the reptilia a while back
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>>62766187
>a bunch of autists rigidly adhere to notions of objective truth and the meaninglessness of impermanent subjective preference
Yes, exactly why I love it here

>>62766195
I believe eotech while indeed scoop time, is a closed emitter

>>62766188
>glock is eternal
I was sorely tempted to try a PDP but then I watched a few review where people were like yea, this shoots like shit, so I skipped it

>>62766182
Okay consider an argument from the absurd: We know from red dots of olde that you can have a truly and completely occluded red dot window, so long as there is still the precise POA given by the dot, and then use the non-dominant eye to provide the rest of the information. This works. We also know that it is inferior to having an actual window that the dominant eye can see through. Less mentally taxing, less emphasis and reliance placed upon the superimposition process in the mind. Now lets go further along the spectrum, I think we can agree that a magical floating red dot with ZERO occlusion from any sort of window or window frame would be the most ideal, and afford the least amount of reliance on mental superimposition etc etc

I am arguing that while completely occluded works, it is the most inferior, and while completely un-occluded is impossible, it is the most superior, so that we ought to seek a red dot solution that is further towards the impossible but wholly superior state than the possible and wholly inferior end of the spectrum.

For real an SRO thing with a closed emitter and a vibranium hood would be good. The new Holosun 507 Competition thing or the RMR HD all show that there is a big preference for window frames that are further from the center of the window.

>>62766183
No A2 is arguing in favor of this.

>>62766238
Really gets noggin joggin
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>>62766238
They're just minmaxxing for a specific task. And that task is shooting a maximum of 300 rounds in one day, with a pampered rifle under controlled conditions, as fast as possible.
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>>62766247
>>62766255
A2 will argue that a larger window on a pistol red dot is a bad thing
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>>62766247
>Who are you quoting?
He didn't quote anyone, anon...
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>>62766255
>a bunch of autists rigidly adhere to notions of objective truth and the meaninglessness of impermanent subjective preference
>Yes, exactly why I love it here
Except the objective truth consensus has been that you are retarded for roughly a decade. Sure about that one, champ?
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>>62766247
I was trying to save you from having to respond and you did it anyways why are you like this?
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>>62766209
They didn't have options really. You don't get it. If soldiers had the options we have now your meta would probably look very different.
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>>62766280
if open emitters sucked as much dick as all the literal paid shills in this thread say, they would have failed as a product ten fucking years ago
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I WILL piggyback a 508t on my acog and I WILL be happy
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>>62766255
SRO, 507c, Vortex XL popularity is all about dot tracking on competition handguns. for anything outside of the flat range keeping a handgun smaller is a good thing as is closed emitter.
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>>62766284
>thing bad means thing will fail
Clearly you dont understand the gun market
P320 has been shooting people for almost that long now but here we are.
>>62766293
Gold star post.
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>>62766284
I mean seriously, you are pretty fucked regardless if you are fully submerging your primary and secondary optic in fucking mud, and even if you are it's probably fucking raining so you can get some water and clean them off, otherwise, if your emitter truly is fucked, the glass on your optic is too. How the fuck do you get the mud out of the RCR front window if it's just been fucking dunked? How do you get it off your front and rear objective on your primary optic? how do you get it out of your ARD?

fuck, why is everyone turning as fucking retarded as wuggy?
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>>62766255
>I am arguing that while completely occluded works, it is the most inferior,
I agree with wuggy, while seeing the red dot is easy enough, actually being able to see your target through a pvs14 is a pain in the ass with a t2 they aren't clear enough and aren't large enough for enough light to come through for passive aiming when its dark out
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>>62765725
I had the opposite experience
It looked cool, then I actually used it and it broke
>>62765973
>>62766036
>>62766187
>>62766209
>>62766255
>>62766284
>>62766285
Eventually, the mud/rain/snow monster comes to visit
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If an RMR gets foggy, you wipe it off. If an acro gets foggy you can’t wipe it off ;)
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>>62766309
congratulations, you poured muddy water on your rifle and took a picture of it
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>>62766293
>for anything outside of the flat range keeping a handgun smaller is a good thing as is closed emitter
which is why I run iron sights on my handgun
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>>62766293
Open emitters tend to be smaller than closed ones thoughever
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I just think mailboxes are ugly, simple as
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>>62766252
I mean, at least she was real once, right?
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>>62766303
>I mean seriously, you are pretty fucked regardless if you are fully submerging your primary and secondary optic
Go outside
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>509t
>EPS carry
>RCR
Those are your options. Acro P2 is a dud.
>first one fogged
>second one had black pieces of something (sealant or plastic) scattered all over inside after under 100 rounds
>third one got sold on tacswap
Blows my mind how the company that makes the best rifle dot on earth can put out such a piece of shit joke.
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>>62766304
Oh that’s crazy because I was doing it last night with no issues.
Have you actually done this yourself or are you just repeating what someone said or wrote on the internet?
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>>62766352
okay and
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>>62766317
That's not what we do here
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Only thing I’m going to give credit for is aimpoint support they handled everything super fast. Doesn’t change that this thing is a flaming turd.
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>>62766366
you can tell from the pattern of the mud on there than you poured it over the top of the rifle, how fucking retarded are you?
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>>62766353
Sig Romeo-X Enclosed Pro exists now and it pretty solid. It's DPP footprint though.
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>>62766362
Touch grass
>>62766353
The seethe is real
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>>62766372
Are you new?
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>>62766386
explain that splatter pattern (how mud trickled from the top of the rifle to the bottom (from optic to magazine) without you having poured mud on it to make it look like you were being all hardcore or whatever
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>>62766384
so you shoved snow in your optic? and?
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>>62766403
He does this often, he just walks around his yard and adds mud to his rifle
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>>62766403
>Anon discovers gravity
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>>62766411
Not true, he lets his gf dribble the mud on because she's more artistically inclined. He just watches
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fuck, guys, I dropped my rifle and now there's an emitter in my emitter!
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>>62766403
Jfc
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>>62766413
when was the last time mud magically fell on you from above? Mud is on the ground.
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>>62766419
How was he able to get a 2d woman to enter the real world and sprinkle mud all over his rifle?
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>>62766403
Yes anon, I'm going to go 39 miles into the back country to pour mud on my rifle
>>62766411
>>62766419
>>62766429
Kekd
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>>62766451
Your yard isn't 39 miles bud, you wouldn't be able to cuddle Elliot if you left your house so you are lying.
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>>62766441
imagine if you will, not keeping it on the ground afterwards
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>>62766420
>fuck, guys
No thanks faggot
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>>62766429
Does he have legend of zelda tattoos? Would make sense
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>>62766496
Yes and he has Rick and Morty tattoo and Star Trek.
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>>62766555
This is the first time I’ve ever believed you.
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>>62766252
Averi is for pets, not lust
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>>62765392
>>62766583
I would leave my wife for a furry woman if they existed unironically
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In the past year I bought 7 cans and I still want more.
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>>62766593
Just go to italy or portugal
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>>62766612
I'm gonna buy so many cans when Trump removes them from the NFA
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>>62766612
>7
Wtf are you doing anon. I've bought three, but they have no overlap in capability. I'm considering a fourth, but only because I want a lightweight titanium option for when I don't care about sparking under NODs. Considering a B&T PrintX 5.56 (long version).
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>>62765502
Faggot, it is 2024, the transformer paper was published in 2017.
In 7 years we went from lab demonstrations of AI "capabilities" with pictures that resemble those "you can't name a single object in this picture" pictures to passable hentai generators.
You don't know what we will have in the next 7 years.
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>>62766386
>It was actually a gay cerakote the whole time
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>>62766625
It’s just not the same.
>>62766626
They would all be OOS for months.
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>>62766594
>>62766593
>>62766583
You 'people' are unironically deranged, and your lack of shame about presenting it is a sure sign of even worse things to come.
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>>62766652
whatever you say
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>>62766645
Stick to talking about your ecelebs and Ar15s, pal.
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>>62766626
>Bans bumpstocks again and super safeties too
Nothin personnel
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>>62766625
I want a hairy greasy Italian wife who yells at me and cooks
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>>62765506
>>62766645
>2 more weeks
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>>62766668
>we'll take the cans first and go through due process second
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>>62766678
ugh
>>https://medium.com/@junehao/comparing-ai-generated-images-two-years-apart-2022-vs-2024-6c3c4670b905
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Damn I didn't know /arg/ had jeets too, they really are like roaches
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>>62766638
>(long version).
Thats really long bro I wouldnt do that
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>>62766711
May we see one sir?
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anyone uses that to check their barrels?
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>>62765545
you are full of shit, on all counts, nigger. even worse, i bet you are noguns
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>>62766719
But muh dbs, it's not THAT long...
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>>62766779
Anon that was like 3 hours ago, why are you still seething?
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>>62766819
>arguing retards general
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>>62766855
We can be better than this
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>>62766779
I’m right about everything your gay too
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>>62766868
Not me
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>>62766891
>your
oh it's this retard again
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>>62766994
I did it for u baby ;)
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It's just fun bros.
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>>62766994
>not using a comma after an interjection at the start of a sentence
esl i see
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>>62767058
>lowercase i
good morning saar!
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>>62767098
That's just what zoomers do
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>>62765867
>receiver plate QD point
It's pretty funny how they go unused in every photograph or video of them after 2016, but removing them isn't worth the trouble of restaking or risk of damaging the castle nut ratchet

>>62766594
>>62766659
Thanks for the reup, my Averi folder had been depleted

>>62766652
Quit being so dramatic
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>>62766361
Are you shooting a neon target at 15yds?
Dark target on dark dirt is hard to see and even harder through a tiny tube
Using a t2 is doable but you get way less light through the optic compared to an eotech.
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fde scope mount on an all black rifle, yes or no?
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>>62767124
Yes, you can add FDE furniture later (stock, grip, panels, etc)
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>>62766366
Now this is imageboard posting!

>>62766269
I don't think he would say it is a bad thing, but he might say it isn't so important so as to excuse buying anything but a P2.

>>62766293
Closed emitter I agree is important. And too large for other constraints like holster or snag risk is a good point. That being said a ruggedized closed emitter dot with the FOV of the SRO would run circles around the P2 or 509T etc.

>>62766304
>not clear enough and aren't large enough
Exactly

>>62766378
>sig anything
>pretty sold
Not at all

>>62766451
Ignore anon. He's seeing things in the mud splatter pattern that scare him.
>marmot fight
I've seen em go at it at 12k feet in Colorado. They're nasty little fuckers fr fr

>>62766612
I have 4 and definitely want more.

>>62766638
PrintX 5.56 C is likely to be solid for ya

>>62767039
I used to lust after these then I fired one and holy shit it doesn't feel very good IMO.
Pretty sure it was an A3 as well.
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>>62767135
unsubscribe
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>>62767135
> Closed emitter I agree is important. And too large for other constraints like holster or snag risk is a good point. That being said a ruggedized closed emitter dot with the FOV of the SRO would run circles around the P2 or 509T etc
You know, that’s kinda crazy there’s basically one of those in your pic
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>>62767098
im not on trial here pajeet
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>>62767135
They fought for like 5 minutes, was pretty entertaining and I've never heard them do squeaks like that
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>>62767106
>Quit being so dramatic
Just being real. Didn't mean to put a rat in your facecage.
>>62767135
>Not at all
Yeah I get it, there are lots of reasons to shit on Sig and many of them are valid, besides being a meme to boot. The Romeo X Pro is actually without issues though so far as I can tell. Broken clock right twice a day or something.
>>62767135
>doesn't feel very good IMO.
Huh, mine feels great to me but it's also the only PCC I've ever had, and I have a short stroke buffer in it.
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>>62767167
The only people this obsessed with street shitters are paki's, Ahmed.
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>>62767193
you sure now a lot about this stuff, unfortunately not ar15s
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>>62767182
>Just being real
You don't know the first thing about me, pal
>rat in your facecage
How ironic that you make a reference to what I'm assuming is BDSM after calling me deranged

>>62767195
NTA, but familiar are you with AR-15 history? Here's a trivia question: in which year was the AR-15 officially adopted and designated M16 by the military?
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>>62767124
Gonna spray bomb it anyway so who gives a fuck
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>>62767231
>but familiar are you with AR-15 history?
i dont answer riddles, master yoda.
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>>62767237
Yes, that was completely intentional and I am not developing Alzheimer's
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>trying to find best passive aiming setup
>meanwhile, spending years arguing about it online
>always training passive aiming innawoods etc
>dome myself when society collapses
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>>62767380
I'm skipping right to the last part
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>>62767231
>How ironic that you make a reference to what I'm assuming is BDSM
Read a book nigger.
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>>62767380
Took me 5 minutes to find a good passive aiming setup.
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>>62767380
fuck aiming i got 30 rounds i'm using all of them
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>>62766764
I can safely say you retards are all trust-fund kiddies posers
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>>62767429
Nahh bro I just skipped college, went to work at 15, didn’t get a girl pregnant, drove work or shitty vehicles for 12 years, lived in a place with a cheap cost of living, job provided phone, grow some of my own food, and avoid buying stupid shit/vydia games,
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>>62766764
Check them for what? I use that when I'm installing them
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>>62767476
For barrel alignment. If it doesn't go all the way then it's over/under torqued
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>>62767456
I don’t smoke, and really the dumbest thing I buy too much is beer.
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>>62767429
God I wish
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>>62767482
Shouldn't the pin on the barrel extension ensure alignment? Or looking at the feed ramps? Not sure how the barrel nut being torqued to 20 or 90 ft.lbs (or a gorillion in PSA's case) instead of 30-80 would affect that
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>>62767508
it fucks up everything you should know that if you ever installed one
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>>62765922
it's fun. feels like a little puzzle you have to solve. its pure autism however. like wugster said, stamp collecting.
i enjoy guns
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IM GONNA DO IT
IM GONNA BUY BOTH THE BADGER AND REPTILIA SCOPE MOUNTS AAAAHHHHHHHHHH
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i torqued a scope mount to 30 ft.lbs once instead of inch lbs
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>>62767519
Enjoy your reptilia shifting in the rail slot under recoil
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>>62767514
Yeah it'll fuck up your accuracy (so I've heard) but I'm trying to picture how it would fuck up your alignment enough to be discernable with an upper receiver rod
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Please convince me to not buy an SR15 lower for $2,000 simply to match my upper.
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>>62767532
But it has a recoil lug... :(
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>>62767519
just buy badger
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>>62767541
>matchy matchy
Peak dork/not effay
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>>62767521
Pro-tip, you don't need a torque wrench for 95% of applications, use the right sized wrench and you'll naturally torque it to around the screw's limit.
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>>62767557
What about a muzzle device
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>>62767541
why didnt you just buy a complete sr15 then?
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>>62767546
It'll still slide a bit and fuck with your POI. Unless my rails are out of spec. But I've had 2 of them do it.
Just the other day I had horizontal stringing even at 50 yd, it was Jamal PSA barrel nut tight, after half a mag the recoil lug was gapped. Not blaming them it could be my rail tho
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>>62767561
Nta but it's pretty hard to over do a muzzle device... You just turn it about 1/8 and it'll stop naturally,you'd have to be on meth to crank it anymore
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>>62767557
>doesn't just lightly pull the trigger on his uggadugga
ngmi
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>>62767541
Because you could spend it on a barret, scar, nods, lam, ammo
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>>62767519
Just get a Geissele blem next week
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>>62767595
count nigger haha
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>>62767615
Huh?
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>>62766284
You must be the biggest idiot on all the chans. Stupid broke people buy cheap shit. News at 11. Bear creek arsenal pinty and Amazon red dots etc still sell in pre world War 3 2024
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>>62767587
Is the scar16 really just superior all around? I've been thinking about picking one up and cutting it to 10".
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So uhh I overtorqued the bolts attaching my ACOGs to their mounts and now I can't get either of them loose. I wanted to switch the mounts because the one mount interferes with the rear sight on my one rifle.

Am I just fucked and need to buy a 3rd ACOG as a retard tax or what?
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>>62767640
It's pretty good.
I sort of regret not just getting one as my first rifle but at least others have learned from my mistakes. I'd rather have a SCAR than a KAC desu.
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>>62767676
Is the similarity in ballistics between 10" and 11.5' close enough that the 10" scar can still be used as a GPR? That thing is sexy as fuck.
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>>62767721
>GPR
ditch this type of thinking from your mind
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>>62767721
>GPR
go back
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>>62767550
Do the nuts on the side get snagged on gear or is that a non-issue
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>>62767659
Maybe put some muscle into it? Stick the mount in a vise if need be
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>hapafacts has really convinced people that 11.5s are "do it all" rifles
lmao this is boomer-tier idiocy
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>>62767745
non-issue from my experience but your ymmv
they do look pretty big but it hasnt bothered me.
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>>62767659
heat it, then spray it with kroil, then loosen
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>>62767753
Oh it you brassfacts. Listen no one cares you're half asian or whatever. The first 200 jokes you made about being asian just made me go "What the fuck is he talking about?"
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>ESL
>Lacking in reading comprehension
Giving the third world access to the internet was a fucking mistake
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>>62767863
take your meds faggot
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>>62767721
There's no hard threshold for that sort of thing. 10" has less velocity than 11.5, which has less than 12.5 and so on. 77gr OTMs have sufficient terminal ballistics out of short barrels to be just fine. So, if you can account for drop then yeah you're fine. If you need more, swap the 16" barrel assembly in.
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>>62767749
>>62767795
Not a matter of strength, I busted two wrenches already and I'm worried about stripping out the screw heads. Heat+kroil
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>>62765376
Does anyone have an aimpoint 9000sc?
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>>62767753
Mine works fine
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This might sound retarded, but I genuinely believe there is a positive psychological effect to using iron sights. They're always on, never run out of batteries, have no potential for electronics failure, and barring some insane abuse, will always retain zero. They don't get washed out by a white light.
I own many optics and appreciate the advantages they offer, but I've been thinking a lot lately about what frame of mind I'd be in if I actually had to use my rifle, and I think I'd feel a lot more confident with iron sights than I would with a dot, god forbid an EOtech or LPVO.
Does anyone else's brain work like this? If I really had to grab a gun I think I'd instinctively grab the one with nothing but a sling, irons, and a light.
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>>62767942
>Does anyone else's brain work like this?
No
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>>62767942
sounds retarded because it is retarded
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>>62767926
any aimpoint sight that is marketed towards hunters is a piece of shit. just get a pro
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>>62765811
sadly a holosun gold dot looks better under magnification.
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This is my last weekend before I cut some weight. What sort of slop do I get?
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>>62765828
>>eotech gives you a massive 68 moa ring with a dot inside of it that obscures targets

then get the dot-only eotech
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>>62767949
But the 9000 looks better and rule of cool.
But thanks I probably should’ve assumed because no cloners use it
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>>62767974
youre not going to lose weight with that kind of mindset ash
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>>62767942
You're gonna get a lot of seethe and splash back, but I know what you mean anon. Simplicity has virtue in and of itself.
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>>62767974
you don't, you start now
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>>62767974
Guinness and lamb chops
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>>62768005
Can't a negro just enjoy the end of his bulk?
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>>62768022
enjoy a nice big steak with some mash and asparagus. alternatively replace the mash with garlic parmesan baby potatoes
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>>62765842
Whats a better choice for secondary aiming on a scoped rifle t2 or p-2?
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>>62768032
is that even bulking?
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>>62768036
nigga wants to enjoy a nice meal, i suggested a nice meal
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>>62766366
I can feel the insects killing me from this photo
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>>62767721
10 inch rifles are being used for 100 yards to 0 yards so you won't notice the difference.
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>>62767595
I thought count blemula was an arg shitpost. Had no idea that retarded pa mutt actually does this to his own brand name.
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>>62765513
Is this gross humor? You keep bringing her up and it’s repulsive every time.
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>>62768046
Yes and he has his own castle.
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>>62768046
You know they engrave The Count's face on every blem part, right?
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>>62768060
>>62768046
Like Mark LaRue said, if you have enough rejects to sell as a sperate product line, there is something wrong with your manufacturing.
Gunsoomers are absolutely retarded.
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>>62768071
lmao
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>>62768046
Once a year during Halloween the count opens the synagogue of savings for hauntingly low prices. The spookiest part, is that some have said their "blem" didn't have any flaws at all.
Boo!
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oh I feel it comin'
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>>62768128
>>62768129
OH my lmao I can't believe this is real. I am fucking dying over here.
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>>62767900
>seething
I accept your concession
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>>62768128
>super semi
Yeah that's what they called me in high school
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>>62767988
I'm glad someone gets it. Like I said, I'm not some myopic retard who thinks irons are better than optics. I'm just saying that the raw simplicity of them can't be ignored for defensive purposes (i.e. when your rifle absolutely has to work)
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>>62767753
A2Grip is a 30yo zoomer.
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>>62768013
>>62768156
PPFAHAHAHA
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>>62767974
Alright I just said fuck it and got wings. May make my own steak on Sunday though, good recommendation
>>62768032
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>>62768215
enjoy anon
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>>62768154
(•̀ᵥᵥ•́)
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I kind of want another rifle instead of a can
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>>62768239
I love this little nigga like you wouldn't believe
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>>62768241
AR10?
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>>62768239
mine was naked
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>>62768249
damn that sux. lil vampie parts are worth way more on the r*ddit markets
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reddit.com
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>>62768258
I know it well
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>>62768099
You're just retarded enough to have fallen for Mark's psyop. He happily sells you the blems and rejects for full price.
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>>62768262
you just love posting that picture in here huh, you can go back. you might get some gold for it
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>>62768241
You will regret this. There is nothing more satisfying than having one absolutely rock solid rifle that you're completely familiar with. I pared my AR collection down from 4 to only one and it just feels nice.
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>>62767942
A lot of what you're saying is wrong and tou don't know this because you're just talking out your ass and don't shoot especially not in most conditions you describe. Rarely will irons shine over a simple red dot.
>>62767988
Like a simple enclosed dot thats t2 tough and has years long battery life?
>>62768186
Fall in mud, your iron sights now have some mud on them and are unusable. When would you ever encounter mud? Lmao lmfao, you never gonna go prone bro? Never gonna go outside and touch grass? You musk be able to blow really hard if you're just gonna poof on them to get the mud out of all the books and crannies
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>>62767974
I ordered some firehouse subs I got the hook and ladder and the new york steamer. Ate half of each now I’m stuffed.
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>>62767988
>anon figures out why ACOGs and ELCANs are popular
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>>62768356

>>62768356

>>62768356
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Meant this >>62768353
For (You)>>62767988
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>>62768280
you're right anon, thanks
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>>62765743
That's probably how I'll run Brutality when my transition finishes.
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>>62766403
THIS
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>>62767974
Live fast and eat ass.



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