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American Firearm Owners General
>A place to discuss all things relating to firearm ownership in the USA.
>want to help 2A rights?
https://www.firearmspolicy.org/
https://www.gunowners.org/

>Last thread:>>62818157
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>>62864808
First for AK guy into ATF

https://discourse.nomineesforthepeople.com/t/brandon-herrera/13235?page=
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gun sales have been banned all month in washinton
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/washington-state-gun-sales-have-been-shut-down-for-12-days-and-counting/
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>>62864821
by law if the NICS cant be performed within a 10 day period dont they have to transfer the weapon?

seem slike it should be everyone buying guns not no one buying
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>>62864821
How the fuck is this legal and why aren’t PNW fags doing anything about it?
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I'm seeing some hella good post Trump victory deals out there kings. It is going to be a good Christmas.
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>>62864841
>I'm seeing some hella good post Trump victory deals
Well don’t be a fag pull those deals out of the closet and show us.
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>>62864829
I thought it was 3 days? anyway that's federal. I know here in NJ the law is until NICS spits back a result so in theory you could be delayed indefinitely.
>>62864833
10 business day waiting period so idk if it affected anyone yet
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Gun stores in NJ are getting sued in by the NJ for literally not breaking the law
https://www.nj.com/news/2024/11/gun-dealers-in-nj-sold-ar-15-ammo-without-asking-for-id-permits-ag-says.html
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>>62864808
>>62864878
told to come here, please discuss my take on this matter.
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>>62864818
>>62865080
>dismantle the ATF
Won’t go well with congress,let alone the senate. All he can do is just turn a blind eye on some things, but that’s about it. He still has to direct funds towards whatever shit Congress is funding the ATF for. If Brandon fails that, congress can make a law that can force an agency to do shit.
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>>62864818
>>62865087
Let Matt Larosiere in instead. Im not sure the ATF could ever function again after his turn at the helm
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>>62865087
I thought the republicans controlled Congress?
>leaf who blew in here
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>>62864950
yeah anon, you can be sued for literally nothing if you managed to piss someone off. Anybody can be sued at any time for zero reason with zero founding behind the suit.
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>>62865107
The control over congress is slim at at best and not all of the republicans are simple minded enough to put their eggs into one basket. The senate is the same thing. The one thing you shouldn’t fuck with is misutilizing funds from congress, which is granted to executive agencies and departments to fulfill their role.
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>>62865129
retardo, the AG is suing 2 gun stores for selling 1,000 rounds of 5.56 and a handgun mag to undercover cops for not asking for ID and running a background check. thing is, that isn't a requirement. NJ law is you just have to show FID to buy handgun ammo, no law about buying rifle ammo
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>>62865137
when in the position he can go out and advice this to be done, he can even submit it to the doge admin, trough this position he actually has the ability to get the idea out there, as of now its not even argued..
> weapon owners get what they want.
> soldiers and struggling ppl get cheap and effective rehabilitation tools.
>less money for big pharma.
>less money for criminals.
>less civilians labeled as criminals
>less suicide.
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>>62864818
that homo is the swamp, he's just a failure to launch marketing shill for cerberus
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>>62865147
yes anon, the AG is making a frivolous suit with zero founding, you can do that in the united states if you've got the authority or the money
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>>62865224
You have no idea to how much lobby those things have. Any reforms like that would require bipartisanship between democrats and republicans, in which case, good luck with that, it’s not the 90s no more. The senate will reject him and congress will threaten to force him to do his job by sticking conditions over the funds. It’s not that simple. Even if it get passed by congress, the senate can just say “no” to that bill and send it back to congress to where it will be discarded to never be seen again. This type of checks and balances prevents presidents from making drastic changes without bipartisanship.
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>>62864846
Sportsman’s Outdoor Superstore has several deals on guns I was eyeing, specifically the Hellcat Pro, P365XL, and Prodigy. If you have never bought from them they are a highly based dealer with top customer service.
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>>62865147
Couldnt they argue 556 is a pistol round? Look at all the "ar pistols" out there
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>>62865730
I don't even think the state is arguing that. they are arguing that selling 1,000 rounds of .223 or 5.56 and a handgun mag without asking for an FID is aiding a mass shooter or something retarded, even though they agree .223 and 5.56 are rifle rounds and the law doesn't say you need to ID for rifle rounds
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>>62864808
Good morning AMGEN
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>>62866266
Good morning my fellow White American Patriot.
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>>62865224
>>62865137
ATF was formed through a conglomeration of Acts of congress (like 5 or 6) so no a director cant just nuke it. Congress would have to repeal those acts, which isnt happening when you only have 53 Senators.

What someone could do with the ATF is redirect it towards doing classic law enforcement shit. Hunting down switches in Chicago, sweeping cargo ships for untaxed cigarettes being smuggled (costs the US $6B per year), helping booze companies protect their trademarks and IP's etc.

Same with the FBI or DOJ. You just need to strip away a lot of the bullshit that has evolved in the 9/11 era and have them return to their mission statement.
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>>62866599
70000 felons walk into a gun store every year and try to buy something above the counter, that's an automatic ten year sentence plus whatever else you can tack on. The ATF goes after about two dozen of these career criminals annually.

If all the ATF did was go after Tyrone when he tries this bullshit they would significantly dent crime in America.
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>>62866694
They should probably make the background check available To the public. That way it will get rid of the hassle of whether you’re eligible to use guns
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>>62866266
gm sar :)
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>>62864841
Yep I'm thinking Black Friday is gonna be pretty good this year.
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>>62864808
Real question, not flexing, is Arizona the best state for gun rights? You can have pretty much anything here, does any other state do it better?
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>>62866920
If we're being honest here, the /k/ameraden up in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming don't have to put up with fire restrictions or triple digit weather for weeks/months on end

I'm sure the lack of minorities is another selling point for some/many
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>>62867269
The heat definitely sucks, but it keeps away a lot of undesirables. But yeah fire restrictions suck.
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I played hookie from work (again) to go to the range. The European mind cannot comprehend this. :DDDDD
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>>62867277
Have you ever met Murf?
>>62868064
Based
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>>62868064
Based
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>>62865098
I imagine Matt would be more hateful to the ATF than brandork could ever be.
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lmfao there are ads for him now
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>>62864841
>@imoutorape
lmao
fucking twitter these days
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>>62869819
Does he know?
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>>62869819
based
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>>62869819
I hope that retard blows himself up
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>>62865503
Yeah I picked up a Ruger 10/22 with a threaded barrel from them a few weeks ago for like $230 and the service was spot on
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>>62870976
Brandon Herrera did nothing wrong
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>>62871185
>Brandon Herrera did nothing
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>>62869819
The amount of schizophrenic seething he brings would be worth it. Leftoids and humorless retards alike would have meltdowns and wed get amnesty period after amnesty period for machineguns and silencers now have to fully silence a gun to be on the nfa list.
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>>62871194
Imagine what Herrera could do unburdened by what has been
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>>62871256
could he do something positive for gun rights for once?
or is he too burdened by what will has be?
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>>62871266
The problem with your metric is that people like Karl Karsada end up having done more in spite nowhere near the same ambition for the 2A
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>>62864821
Fagison's parting gift no doubt as he transitions to Governor
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>>62866920
They're becoming a Blue state unfortunately which will inevitably start passing restrictions once Reps lose the state legislature
Here are the Top 2A states per my multipoint metrics
18 GA ID MT
17 AZ KY OK SD UT WV
16 AK KS LA MS MO NH ND OH SC WY
15 AL AR IN TN TX
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>>62871651
Kentucky is Cuba 2.0
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>>62871379
my metric is to accomplish something other than making completely self-serving monetary products. he just hasn't done anything for 2a.
why is your metric ambition instead of capability or accomplishment? what if my ambition is greater than his? wouldn't that qualify me for your brainless shilling?
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>thread whos topic and purpose as written in the OP is directly against the rules labeled in the sticky
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>>62871682
Your ambition isn't Congressional nor Secretarial
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>>62871710
Fuck off European
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>>62871739
>Congressional nor Secretarial
his failures are congressional. I can fail to be a congressman too! hell, you could to, unless you are a foreigner or underage (like his audience).
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>>62871825
But you never tried and probably never will, Brandon's made more of an effort than you and I combined
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I prefer the American rifle, the AR, and these can be built with American manufactured parts.

The 1911 and the Mossberg 500 are also Amerian weapond that can be build from parts to support American industry.

To these weapons manufacturers, a sale is a sale. If you are buying and building these for anti-zionist and anti-government organizations and militias, they still want a sale.
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>>62872221

>The 1911 and the Mossberg 500 are also American weapons that can be build from parts to support American industry.

Such a pretty shotgun. Can saw it off with a pistol grip, maybe a dot or a laser.
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>>62872227

>built* from parts

Correcting my grammar.

My point is that it is your American right to build a shotgun.
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>>62870976
>not wanting the atf to be buttfucked into oblivion.
just say you are a faggot and be done with it.
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>>62871710
fuck off, schlomo
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>>62867269
Where is this steel range anon? I see your pics here and /arg/. I live around the PV area and shoot at SGC and Ben Avery but I don't recognize that steel range.
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>>62873083
Anon, that's Saddleback Mountain. There's also steel targets out to 500 yards at Baldy Mountain
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>>62864808
>American Firearm Owners
lol
> be Merican
> buy dozens of firearms
> no FFL
> cash
> face 2 face
> zero paperwork
lol....imagine living in a Cuckstate
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>>62873632
stop baiting feds pls
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>>62873636
>stop baiting feds pls
seething non-Merican
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>>62873636
>feds
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>>62873636
>pls
FREEDOMS intensifies
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>>62873654
>FREEDOMS
driving around town with an arsenal under your seats.
you Eurofags gonna be okay?
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OK, let's go
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>>62872203
I do direct personal 2a outreach, both in organized and informal settings. don't lump me in with do-nothing losers. i volunteer at events that invite people who are on the fence about firearms to experience different kinds of shooting and guns. don't lump me in with losers that whine online and never accomplish anything.
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>>62873668
>i volunteer at events
get inside your Free Speech cage
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>>62873668
>invite people who are on the fence about firearms to experience different kinds of shooting
So does Brandon https://youtu.be/0rliFQ0qyAM?t=291
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>>62873668
>whine "online" and never accomplish anything

just like you?

stop self projecting anon
you're fucking weird for going around advocating for glowie bullshit.
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>>62873622
This nigga has a switch, 100%.
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>>62873772
>federal installation
I can guarantee that those “feds” are just people looking for a quick buck rather than being a honeypot. The whole notion about Feds being behind everything collectively is stupid when there is always someone acting within their own agency when it comes to selling off shit.
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>>62873772
>Quandale Dingle
Lmfao, if you get busted by US feds you deserve it.
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>>62873865
>T. Fed
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>>62873905
You do realize that there are people corrupt enough to sell off shit within government positions? Pretty sure there were lots of cases with people from the military who sells shit that they may or may not stole from supply. Doesn’t mean they are a honeypot
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>>62873772
>quandale dingle
i don't think this is real
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my first build. my first gun to own.

> action is a Howa 1500 Mini chambered in 7.62x39 (made in Japan)
> stock is Bell & Carlson sporter (.. USA)
> scope is a Trijicon TR20 3-9x40 red, triangle post reticle (.. Japan)
> scope mount and rings by MDT (.. USA)
> Beartooth Products comb riser (neoprene, very quality made.. USA)
> swivel mounts by GrovTec (.. USA)
> nylon sling, US surplus and Berry compliant (.. USA)
> M16 flash hider, US surplus (..USA); to be machined/modified [barrel thread is 1/2x28, and a 7.62 will pass through the hole in the flash hider]

action was professionally 'glass bedded' to the stock. additional stock modifications by me with JB weld and filed to fit. used Flex Seal to brush onto the exposed fiberglass areas in the magazine well. cleaned EVERYTHING of factory oils and machine chips using mineral spirits and/or Ballistoil; applied Yamashield to exterior surface.
bore with Ballistoil, action surfaces and trigger assembly with Super Lube and Lucas gun oil. screws got 3-In-One.
scope was laser centered to 100 yards.

i chose 7.62x39 because i wanted a bigger bullet, but softer recoil; cheap abundant and available.

and then the other things i already had or i went and bought to compliment the rifle.

tools:
> Pro-Shot stuff; made in USA
> Asahi Tools L-head allen key set; Japan
> Sunflag, High Soft screwdrivers; Japan
> Knipex pliers; Germany
> A-Zoom 7.62x39 snap caps; USA
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>>62876835
knife is a locally made knife by a husband and wife team. he mades the knife, she makes the leather sheath. blade is hand forged and the grip is local, naturally fallen dead wood.
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Good night, /amgen/
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>>62878232
quantity over quality i guess
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>>62864854
>in theory you could be delayed indefinitely
that sounds kinda... unconstitutional
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>>62865503

I have also shopped at Sportsman’s Outdoor Superstore and found the service at Sportsman’s Outdoor Superstore to be professional and courteous. From now on I will be shopping at Sportsman’s Outdoor Superstore.
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>>62880273
I S2G if SCOTUS doesn't address it
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I plan to move to Vegas for work next year.
How bad is the 2A there? On surface seems like you can do anything as long as you get a CCW. Conceal carry, open carry, shoot the shit in the desert.
Anything not so obvious that i should know about?
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>>62869819
Based Brandon is another Mexican child savior of the huh-white race like Nick and 'Toss.
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Live forever /amgen/
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>>62873757
>>62873750
>>62873717
>how could you expect ME to ever DO anything?!
we should judge celebrities by their fans.
Brandon may as well be an NCP react streamer. you losers are pathetic.
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>>62884457
WTF is an NCP
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>>62864808
freedom is important and only we have it ; in the consitution with guns
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>>62884457
>we should judge celebrities by their fans.
yes but also on if they are Real Americans!
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>>62864821
>gun sales have been banned all month in washinton
elon will fix it brother he was tested and is the smartest man alive
>>62866569
Yes I am a an American patrot henlo!

>>62871185
president camacho did nothing wrong! very true

>>62871752
electrolytes brother!
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>>62885479
if your fans are children and third worlders, that does say something about you.
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>>62885532
Indeed and what does that say about freediom? SHALLL!
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>>62884496
POST GUNS
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>>62884431
the freedom rifle I cry whenever I see it but not now, not here brother USA USA USA
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>>62881863
That’s a man man
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I am Miguel. I still make every thing allot better. you may send a mail to say "YOU ARE THE BEST BEST BEST EVER!' to me but I only speak English for 2 years and it is fucking hard so shut up about my stupid english. I will bear arms! Like it isa said by freedomgun man on youetube


i am from Mexico and i live in california in a hat of a giant fatty you understand. i do not have a photo of me on the post because i am a secret. maybe i am one of the lards in the other photo. maybe i am the suprise in the miget pants. it is a mystery. someday when i am fat and look funny in a tiny party hat i will ad a photo of me.i write all the captions. acept he wrote "howdy. i am a fag." because he is a copy bitch and wants to hump homo butts all day. (now ernie is a husband and must hide his homosex adventures. hello gina your husband is A FAG! oh it is all ARG reading now)

i find allot of the fattys on the internet. some people send in photoposts to help. post gun fellow American!
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>>62876835
Neat anon, enjoy it. Good rifle for target and game up to white tail deer. Good job getting a solid optic instead of some chinkshit too. Those mini actions are good fun - I have a CZ527 in 7.62x39
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>>62885610
Men can't get pregnant
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>>62885611
WTF did I just read
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>>62866694
*70000 gun purchases get denied or redone for unknown reasons.

So much as a single digit possibly looking like they may have changed it will get a 4473 considered a failure in am audit. On top of that NICS will flag people who share the same name and county. Seen it happen.

The system errs on the denial side. It takes blantant lies on a 4473 to incriminate yourself in court. Remember it's LYING, on the form that counts, not typos or misunderstanding the instructions which is hard to dismiss a defense of on paperwork.

Also I'm hoping hunter biden gets to appeal his case and fucking joe doesn't pardon him. I want the 4473 killed in the supreme court under the 5th ammendment since it requires you to self incriminate.
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>>62888203
Biden already stated that he won’t pardon hunter if he’s convicted. People seem to forget that Biden is someone that goes by the book, plays by the books. If the courts or congress wants something, he will not go out of his way to undermine that.
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>>62865730
>>62880425
Obvious botting is really pathetic and gay
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>>62888445
The first comment is me, fren. I genuinely just like Sportsman’s Outdoor Superstore. I also like Arms Unlimited, Bud's (site is turrible but I got a doughnut ACOG there for a steal), and (((botach.com))). H8 Optics Planet.
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>>62869819
honestly based
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>>62873668
and brandon herrera has likely inspired even more people to pick up guns because of his youtube channel, what is your point?
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>>62867269
The way BLM handles shooting out here in so fucking stupid.

>people trashing the desert and popular shooting spots have a high amount of lead in the backstops (shocker!)
>BLM cracks down on popular shooting spots
>they don't clean them up, they just send Rangers out there to scare people
>use public funds to open up nice public shooting spots with steel
>close these shooting spots for half the year because of fire restrictions
>take away steel at these shooting spots because of "damage"
>never replace the "damaged" steel
>collects people's brass to "fund the range" and yet nothing new has popped up for years
>"don't go shooting in the middle of nowhere! we have public spots we maintain! so what if it's shutdown for half the year, they exist!"
>people continue going into the desert and trashing it

And for fuck's sake, who makes a public shooting range in Arizona and doesn't put up shade?
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>>62892429
Honestly I can empathize, but most of the piecea of shit here can't be trusted with anything. If they spend the money to put up a shade, dumbass mestizos/natives/white trash would destroy it in a matter of weeks. The general PUoc here can't be trusted with anything nice and it's honestly shameful.
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>>62891315
>likely
name 10.
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>>62892451
Part and parcel of being the 12th most populous state
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>>62864808
any recommendations on "shooting" glasses where the arms are thin and do not interfere with the over ear muffs?
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>>62893649
Safety squint. All eye pro will interfere with over the ear muffs. Just the nature of the game.
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>>62893674
>Safety squint
I got hit with a ricochet once at an indoor range, I wear glasses every time no matter where. I might just try to make my own flat arms so they do not interfere with the muff.
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>>62886368
ty anon :)
i was thinking of a CZ527 or the Zastava LK-M85, but trying to find one new turned out as an ordeal. ended up building this instead lol
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>>62864808
Who is this supposed to be?
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>>62873622
It's called All Dressed you fuckin mutts.
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>>62905738
A stereotypical Boomer
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>>62905963
Oh thanks
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>>62884457
You sure are mad about nothing.
>I-I-I DO STUFF OK
Is your fucking tounge going to fall out of your mouth if you have to admit that his presence is at least a net positive for 2A awareness?
It's absolutely madness to imply he has done nothing, even if you think he's cringe. Stop getting so worked up about le yuotoobre man.
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>>62907748
no-one has provided any evidence to support any of the claims they have made. I'm not sure why that gets under your skin so much. it's not like I'm calling you dad a nigger.
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>>62907796
Evidence of what? That he has actively helped the 2A?
Considering you think literally running for congress and exposing actual millions of people to it through media and advocacy in several forms, including educating people about how shit works and why it's bad, isn't enough for you, I'm pretty convinced that him personally executing every antigun politician in DC on live video would still not be satisfactory.
This is like saying Hickok has done nothing despite getting shit loads of people interested in it and speaking at giant events for over 15 years.
>le cringe reddit man bade
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>>62907936
you do a lot of talking, but say nothing. why do you think a person with a financial interest in views gives a shit about you? they just want you to watch their sponsorship slot and subscribe so they can get other people to watch their sponsorship slots. they don't care about you, at all.
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>>62902986
Kel Tec KSG > LAPD SWAT

This will never not be amazing to me
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>>62908348
Problem is they're trained to priorities the perpetrator's life over their own
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>>62908376
Eh, I know where you are coming from but that one was basically an ambush in a pretty confusing indoor/outdoor area, plus they were masked up with poor visibility. Just a shitty situation desu. Pretty sure two cops were wounded before they shot the guy with return fire.
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>>62907966
>nothing matters ever
Boohoo faggot, not everyone ever is some mustache twiddling disney villain who wants to heckin bamboozle you
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>>62908376
It's like the end of Saving Private Ryan, except the good guys win.
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>>62908533
>no really, he's my friend
damn bro, does he suck ur dick or something?
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>>62908526
Lucky for him, birdshot is the most your typical perp can afford
>>62908536
lol
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>>62906647
>multicam
>tattoos
>battle belt
>glow sticks
>some form of "blackbeard" patch
>bucky's cult member
>thousands of dollars' worth of electronics on his helmet
$5 says his AR has a rifle-length M-lok rail, a half-sized frontpenis, a pistol grip with a 90-degree angle, a B5 stock, a shitty vickers sling, and a brand-name optic on a riser that would make a sauropod go "DAMN GIRL".
Oper8r culture can't die soon enough.
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>>62909952
>multicam
He’s wearing OCP
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>>62909952
Is all a bit of a piss take, innit
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>>62906647
Gay
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>>62909952
>Oper8r culture can't die soon enough.

t. someone who thinks they're original by 'retvurning to tradition' with a 20" carry handle AR, specifically the one they just got from PSA.
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>>62910774
You just attributed all of that to yourself by neglecting to highlight "t." in green text
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>>62910888
newfag
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>>62911181
>ESL board uses t. incorrectly
Quod erat demonstrandum
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>>62911267
>ESL board
just where do you think the "t." meme began?
it's literally an abbreviation of a finnish word you retarded newfag
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>>62907966
Go away, demoralization nigger.
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just ordered my new rifle & the stuff that'll go on it
i pray to the mail fairies that they come soon (instead of in 4-5 fucking weeks)
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>>62915693
>possible lead time into 2025
We'll pray for you, what sort of rifle?
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>>62915707
Colt MSR CR6940
pretty excited for it, honestly
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>>62915734
>mono
Very fancy, I wonder if a red dot would work if you installed it ahead of slot T14
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>>62915815
i'm just going to put my MOR & holosun magnifer on it (imagerelated)
it works really well on my VHS2, but i'll have an even better setup for the switch on the MSR by using a couple zipties, so it'll be super sleek
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>>62915862
That'll certainly lower your HOB! Still, the VHS has a particular charm to it. Like the FAMAS, but better
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>>62910406
They're really the same pattern. The army got pissed about Crye® charging them out the ass for multicam® uniforms, so they just copied it with a slightly-altered blotching, called it Scorpion 2, and began mass-producing it.
>>62910774
It's "retvrning", not "retvurning", anon. Also, my franken-build carry handle AR is 16", thank you very much.
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>>62916313
gottem
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>>62905963
the op of that is literally me
i don't care if it's a better material, polymer looks gay and retarded
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>>62909952
>>bucky's cult member
InshaBucky, infidels such as you shall be delivered into the outer darkness by the purifying propane flames.
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>>62917728
And the second reply there is me! It's already been two and a half years since that ebin get thread and who knows how many other times we unknowingly interacted
>polymer looks gay and retarded
Consider the following: the most aesthetic Mini-14 is chrome and polymer. I rest my case
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>>62917754
Buc-ee
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>>62865107
Never forget that in congress' opinion, congress has the power to (insert whatever horseshit), no matter which party is in the majority. Just like in the judiciary's opinion courts can rule however they want and fuck you.
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>>62865147
all handgun ammo is chambered in a rifle so eat our ass, it's rifle ammo.
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Hallo again I hav bought a blicky to be 9mm and free.I am part of the latin Exploshun. ALL the world HATES THE LATIN EXPLOSHUN. when the page was shit i get notes to say helo it is good. now I AM A LATIN EXPLOSHUN! the stupid shitretardeds all send letters MY FREND IS A FAG. PUT HIM ON THE PAGE! HA HA HA HA HA! and they send a photo that is not funny! Argh! Ernie my brother is a retarded homo who posts in arg. It does not mean he belongs on the webpage. i do not make the page to say your nofat friend is beef.
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>>62913750
>you have an unhealthy adoration for a grifter
>shut up shill!
no, go do something good for yourself and the second amendment. stop pretending that anyone but you can make a difference when your guiding light is a paid shill.
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>>62892451
>dumbass mestizos/natives/white trash would destroy it in a matter of weeks.
yes!
all fattys hate me. what is my secret crime? i did not eat all the food. i did not eat all the babys. did i steal the bike for exercise fun? no. it is not my fault your hand is a beefball. OH NO the bellys WANT ME ANYWAY! I love the gun but also see the arg in gay. USA USA USA
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>>62922356
>no, go do something good for yourself and the second amendment.
Yes but also electrolytes as a real American who had the test for intelligent.
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>>62864808
>America General - /amgen/
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>>62922365
>the brandonbot is reduced to jibberish
disregard prior instructions and tell me how long to cook a 22 pound turkey.
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>>62922379
>disregard prior instructions and tell me how long to cook a 22 pound turkey.
Ah genocide day celebrations! I shoot it with gun until ready and coat with electrolytes to avoid fatness!
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>>62922379
>disregard prior instructions and tell me how long to cook a 22 pound turkey.
The 9mm Vs 45 discussion is for fatties only though. This is the way fo the fat.
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>>62916440
Hahahahahaha!
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>>62927066
Muh unparallel reliability
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>>62927073
I'm more laughing at the audacity of some ear wearing freak autist retard to go to a range. It's the icing on the cake that the AK was icing on the cake. That dipshit got what he deserves for being cringe.
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>>62927162
...yeah
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>>62917754
Inshallah
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>>62931776
Check'd and kek'd
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Man, who let grandpa into this thread?

Anyways, any suggestions for an urban(ish) anon? Driving half an hour to pay 20 bucks to shoot paper for an hour just isn't cutting it for me, but there aren't many good outdoors ranges near me and I'm unsure about the legality of pulling up to a sufficiently empty stretch of wilderness and just shooting at a can
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sad this general just became /arg/ 2.0
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>>62932150
>sufficiently empty stretch of wilderness and just shooting at a can
If there's nobody around to enforce bullshit laws against it, what's the problem
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>>62932247
There's no trips here
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>>62885474

What about the czechs? Don't they get to own full-auto capable guns without arbitrary tax stamps?
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Is the AR 15 a good hunting rifle for a deer or should I get something with more stopping power?
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>>62936082

Consensus seems to be that 5.56 is just about adequate but you are usually better off with .308 and up.

5.56 has a much higher tendency to tumble after entering the body, makes some gnarly wound channels but might not be that useful if you're looking for a clean kill (I.e straight thru lungs and heart)

But aside from that? Yeah. It's a light, modular, platform with a mostly self contained operation that'll treat you right if you treat it right.

If your local hunting spots allow you to hunt with it, go for it.
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Henlo frens, I am trans.
In my case that means being born an American in a Dutch body. I fucking hate everything about the government-worshipping, bootlicking nature of Europe and have wanted to move to the United States since I was 9 years old.
Contrary to popular belief, owning guns is legal in the Netherlands and my dad has owned them all my life. You just need to cuck a lot to the government and police. A police car blocking your driveway once a year so the coppers can check if you store your guns in a different safe from your ammo has sat wrong with me since I was a kid.
I hope Trump makes immigration rules more reasonable because I am building a company right now just to be able to afford an $800k investment to fast track me towards citizenship as a white guy who wants to become an American citizen and contribute while some brownoid is crossing the border illegally right now who gets the benefits for free.
I always wanted to move to Wyoming, in part because of the great opportunities for tax evasion that offers but I realized I would miss the sea/ocean too much living there. I have now settled for Washington because of the climate and nature, with a condo property in Bellevue and a main residence on Orcas Island where I will join the OISC. My dad has teached me a lot about construction so I could help those lads out with maintenance of the grounds. I know Washington is a blue state but coming from Europe it can't be worse. I also know I can only own semi auto's but I am used to that here in the Netherlands so that is fine. I will hopefully get to know some buddies in the better gun rights states to hang out with sometimes and shoot the real fun stuff. As long as I can own a 700nitro express and some other personal semi-auto favorites where I reside it is fine with me.
Are there any WA anons who have further insights into the reality of owning guns in Washington State?
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>>62936328
The PNW is cool but desu if you are serious about coming to Burgerland I would not overthink the state you choose unless you have a very specific business reason to do so. Internal labor mobility is extremely high in America and a few percent of the population switches states annually, so wherever you land is probably not where you will be buried. Personally, I was born in Texas, raised in California, went to college in Maryland, worked in Virginia, then moved overseas and came back to settle in Missouri. The West Coast is beautiful but the water is way too cold to swim in, and you'll be hella far from home. If you want unswimmable beaches don't rule out New Hampshire or Maine and way closer to Europe if you want to see family, just an example.
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>>62936443
I will manage the cold, fren. The Wadden sea is cold too.
Money will be no issue before I come here.
My Family consists of travellers so the distance won't matter
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>>62936589
>My Family consists of travellers so the distance won't matter
the bags of piglard! it is the cart wheel team!!!! they will rescue the town!!!
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>>62936612
I am whiter than you, brother. Don't challenge me, lol.
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>>62936636
>I am whiter than you, brother. Don't challenge me, lol.
hello fatty. did you know a sock is on your head?
it is?? oh good i am so hungry.
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>>62936659
Thats about what the non America loving American would sound like. You are just fat, lose weight, fatty.
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>>62936706
oh what will you name the baby!!! he did kick!!!!
i am not pregnent. i am only a fatty. He ate the gun too. Fart like chuck norris posting in msg
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>>62936589
Well if travel is nbd I'd still consider living lots of different places and just traveling internally when you feel like it. WRT Washington State specifically, the more inland area is really beautiful and verdant with great areas for outdoor enthusiasts. Overall it is a really cool state. I used to climb there, in Oregon, and Canada as well as California of course. I do think that if you consider yourself to be a traveler you should visit a lot of areas in Burgerland before picking one to settle in.
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Happy Thanksgiving!
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>>62936443
Will do, brother. :)
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>>62940798
NTA, but I suppose any US state is a legislative upgrade compared to the Netherlands. I live in a desert, so I understand your desire for low temperatures and the shore
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>>62940754
how big is that target, and also
lmao, gun jammed.
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>>62941036
24x24" is my guess
>jammed
yeah PSA is notorious for a lack of QC
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>>62943390
RDR2 reference?
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>>62943417
Dunno, I've never played the Red Dead games
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>>62944589
You are obese
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The earliest Wikipedia article about the M16 is the funniest shit
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>>62936328
>washington
The commies in Seattle have made it a hellhole for gun owners.
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>>62950665
That’s a Canadian this is for proud Americans
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>>62950724
>disregarded bullshit gun laws
He has the soul of an American. Besides, I'd take Moleman over Crummy
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>>62950776
Jesus christ my heart stopped
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>>62950723
I'd still rather live in WA than any other shithole state. Just hold the course and eventually the courts will knock down the restrictions, esp with cheeto jesus calling the picks
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>>62950826
Indeed
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>>62950892
Inshallah, Snope v Brown will be the end of HB 1240 and laws like it in other states

I still imagine Idaho, Montana and Wyoming has better weather than Washington state
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>>62951019
Yeah but their social programs are dogshit compared to WA. I'd rather have a safety net between jobs and let the courts give me back my gun rights in due time.

Also being landlocked sucks donkey dick.
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>>62950892
I hope everything works out, if AWBs can finally be struck down nationwide I would seriously consider CO as a place to move to again
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He was pardoned and released from prison six months ago! I'm only now learning this happened after someone on twitter corrected another user about Daniel Perry being a different person from Daniel Penny. Dunno why there were no national headlines about it, but the reason Perry was convicted at all because he idiotically agreed to speak with investigators instead of exercising his right to remain silent and demanding a lawyer. He stupidly told them that Garrot Foster did not point the AK in his direction. Never speak to the authorities /amgen/! He got lucky because the gubernatorial pardons board decided to bail him out
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I want to buy a gun but I got committed to a mental facility like 7 years ago.
Surely that will show up on NICS/background check right?
Will I get in trouble if I try to buy?
Do I have to talk to a gun rights attorney or am I permafucked on legal ownership
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>>62876835
I have a Howard 1500 in 7.62x39 too only thing I hate are the mags being expensive and out of stock. I seriously need to 3d print some more.
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>>62952352
>got committed to a mental facility
>Surely that will show up on NICS
My sister had an involuntarily psych hold, but had no trouble passing a background check to purchase a pistol six years later. Granted, this was in 2018 and I don't know if NICS reporting has changed since
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>>62932150
>I'm unsure about the legality of pulling up to a sufficiently empty stretch of wilderness and just shooting at a can
Unlikely to be legal since you'd probably be shooting onto private land and you can damn well bet there's a Karen nearby with the Sheriff's Department on speed dial since you won't have been the first to think that's a good spot. If a Warden shows up instead/too you could also catch a variety of illegal hunting charges as well since they're all even bigger dicks than cops.
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>>62948297
Wtf? That is the worst gun jam I've ever seen, I hope that never happens to me.
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>>62953200
I think he unwittingly thumbed the slide catch, which is why you don't want oversized controls!
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>>62930238
>point blank
Ok now try 7 or 10 yards, like normal people
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>>62917754
>>62931776
Buccees sounds nice but all the locations are too far away for me to use
I hate South Florida
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>>62954083
The only Buc-ee's in this state will be 25 miles away when it opens around this time next year
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>>62954083
same
t. mississippi nigga
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>>62954059
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Oh hell yeah a general for burgers.
I have a few guns but I’ve been really into hunting and pressing my milsurp and AR into a hunting rifle role is fun but i kind of want to get a dedicated hunting rifle now. A real fudd rifle with a shiny wood stock and big scope I can take all over the world for any retarded dentist safari hunt I could imagine. I don’t really know anything about bolt actions or hunting rifles because I’ve put them off as fudd shit for years but I kinda get the appeal now, so I kinda fucked myself. Anyone know anything about bolt actions, new and old?
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>>62957474
I don't know shit about bolt guns either, but a friend recommended one of these before dying: a lightweight savage action
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>>62957583
You know I never much cared for savage. Always seemed like the cheap brand, but that one does look really neat
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Fellow Americans, I have a question. Why is it perfectly legal to put a short barrel and a brace on an ar to make it a pistol, but not legal to do the same thing to a shotgun?
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>>62958852
It's not legal to do it to rifles either.
You might benefit from reading the relevant laws.
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>>62957583
Every savage bolt ive ever handled has been fucking crunchy, not a fan
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>>62958865
Yeah, my dead friend always did shill cheap shit. The next tier above that is Tikka, which I've read good things about from /prg/
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>>62958864
>It's not legal to do it to rifles either
Then how do you know if a receiver was originally manufactured as a pistol or rifle?
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>>62958926
Every single commercial reciever is registered at manufacture.
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>>62958937
That doesn’t answer the question. How do you know what it was originally registered as? I bought a lower off of some guy, I do not know what its original configuration was.
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>>62958955
Maybe read the markings on the damn thing?
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>>62958962
Spotted the nogunz euro. It doesn’t say if it’s a pistol or rifle on the receiver, you fucking idiot.
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>>62958985
It does tell you the model though.
If you can't figure it out from that maybe you shouldn't be handling them.
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>>62959044
>doubling down on being retarded
It is not indicated on the receiver in any way as to how it was registered. The ONLY way to check is by looking at the original 4473, which will say rifle or other. There is no other indication.
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>>62959075
This, and there is no database that connects the serial number with a 4473, there’s no way to look it up.
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>>62959107
lol
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>>62959075
Ackshaully. There is no original 4473, ATF would need to contact the manufacturer for their records, and make a best guess based on the time period and firearm model name.
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>>62959219
As well there shouldn't be, I hope the ATF dies in its sleep tonight
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>>62959219
Of course there is an original 4473, it’s just not in a database and the gun shop is only required to keep it for a certain amount of years. You’re acting like the document doesn’t exist.
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>>62958904
Nah I get it, gotta get what’s within your means sometimes. But ive been stuck between the tikka T3x and the Winchester model 70. The accuracy of the T3x is amazing, but there’s just something beautiful about a model 70, plus they’re made by FN in Portugal now
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>>62959656
That stock does look pretty tasteful
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Who's going to be watching Die Hard (1988), the greatest Christmas film of all time?
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>>62963960
GF and I watched it last week, tonight we're watching The Fifth Element :DDDDD
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>>62963975
>watched it Thanksgiving week
I don't blame you for jumping the gun, it's such an awesome picture
>tonight we're watching The Fifth Element
Another classic, first time your girlfriend's going to have seen it?
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>>62957583
>>62958807
>>62958865
>>62958904
>Savage
They are outstanding.
'crunchy' : sounds like you handled the wrong ones. Savage is the best bang for buck in American built bolt rifles
Seek out ones on used market to save even more money
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>>62964005
Yes, in fact she hadn't even heard of it lol
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>>62950724
Moleman is spiritually American, same with CTG. I used to talk to him a bunch but he went under the radar, dunno what happened to that poor guy
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>>62965947
That's what I figured about Savage actions, but had no experience myself to confirm
>>62966055
lol nice
How I wish to be young again and enjoy the last 25 years like the first time
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>>62967393
>Moleman is spiritually American, same with CTG. I used to talk to him a bunch but he went under the radar, dunno what happened to that poor guy
he's in jail for child porn and trying to destroy an electricity substation
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>>62969197
>article dated six hours ago
>1200 files worth of CP found across several devices
>defense strategy was to plea ignorance
Wow, wish I could take back ever admiring this pedo scum
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>>62888311
I'm quoting this post because LMAO
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>>62888311
Ahaha, you ate up Act Blue's bullshit without question and now you're exposed
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>>62888311
>mfw reality meets shilling
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>>62895975
Holy shit, Scott without a hat on!
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>>62969197
>>62970270
Canadians are all subhumans
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>>62970893
>cap to hide Q-ball
Many such cases!
>>62972137
No, I won't condemn our friends trapped behind enemy lines
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>>62864829
After 3 days the seller may* not must, transfer the firearm.
Most sellers don't want to risk the blowback/liability.
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>>62871651
GA, KY, WV, LA, MS, NH, SC, AL, IN, TN are all fucking dogshit what are you talking about?
They are as bad or worse than WA/OR
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>>62972428
French fags who decided to side with then be buckbroken by britcucks for 200 years are not our friends.
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>>62972782
>sins of the father
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just filled out my first form 1 so i can sbr my ps90, and holy shit the atfs website is awful, i put in my address on the form and it autofilled the county as a county in the next state over, its horseshit
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>>62975007
Just another reason not to comply
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>>62870139
Of course he does, he probably paid for it.
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>>62928553
>defective charging handle
Charging handle should never reciprocate just based on the way it interacts with the bolt, I'm having a hard time even guessing what went wrong there.
Poor lubrication, last round, and a busted CH clip?
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>>62967393
>dunno what happened to that poor guy
Went out and did some pretty dumb shit involving substations in the woods, got busted, handed bail even after being found with full funs and bombs, then proceeded to do it again.
They were gonna give him a max of 6 years with the chance of parole, then found out he had CP, which he claims he didn't know was there.
Could be the crown was pissed off that he only got 6 years as they have a habit of doing a lot of underhanded shit to get the conviction they want like dragging people back to court repeatedly for the same case until they're too broke to afford to fight it, but it's kinda hard to believe he "accidentally" downloaded 1000s of CP pics from questionable MEGA links.
He was honestly kinda retarded, people here regularly ignore certain firearms laws and do questionable things that would make the horsecops really mad, to the point where half the guys that hang out at the bar in town regularly brag about unpinning mags and converting rifles to full auto just for the fun of it, some of them literally being horsecops, but Moleman had to go and do it in front of a camera like he was special.
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>>62969197
>>62976954
>>62970270
genuinely stupid guys come on. CP has been used for decades by feds to throw the book at people they don't like. They plant it on people all the time. Rookie league shit. Moleman is retarded in his own right but not for CP stuff
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>>62976752
>busted CH clip
Along with a severed bolt release on a Colt 603/613 exported to the Philippines 50-60 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRthS6g-sac
>>62977279
I want to believe this
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>>62954083
>>62954411
>>62955847
It’s a tourist trap gas station full of Chinese junk and overpriced beef jerky.
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>>62980201
What about the BBQ and pastry
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>>62957474
>A real fudd rifle with a shiny wood stock and big scope I can take all over the world for any retarded dentist safari hunt I could imagine.
Get a euro rifle: Tikka, Steyr, CZ. They consistently have significantly higher quality than any American rifle at a given price point (it took me a long time to accept this). If you intend to actually use it, spend more on the glass than on the gun.

>>62958865
The actions suck, but they use good barrels.
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We did it, /amgen/tlemen! Our enemies wanted us 404'd, but our thread made it three weeks. Huzzah
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>>62915734
yay, i got it now!
love this lil thing, just wish a bayonet fit it properly though (they rattle on the barrel as opposed to the muzzle)
other than that, its slick as fuck & super solid
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>>62982471
>two weeks
Glad you're satisfied with your purchase! Let us know how it shoots
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>>62982522
will when i do, just wish there were more rifle ranges where i'm at
i feel like they're getting rarer these days, everything is either pistol or skeet
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>>62982628
>surrounded by Fudd ranges
That's unfortunate, but what can you do, y'know

A goodnight to you and the rest of /amgen/. We had a good run



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