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AR-15 General
back to basics edition pt. 2

Old >>62865809
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>>62869025
But really how do I make a .357 mag ar15?
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About to buy pic related for $1800. Any alternatives I should look at instead?
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>>62869027
Maybe Tromix can make you one
https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Bored-at-the-shop-today---built-a-357-Magnum-AR----pic-/121-780860/
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>>62869035
A Geissele during Black Friday sales
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gives off same vibe as picrel
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>>62869025
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>>62869035
rifle is gtg but please don't pay $1800. consoom the upper from brownells and put it on a cheap lower
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>>62869035
You can build pic related for less than that and get a better rail, trigger and furniture in the process
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>>62869040
Is payment via dicksucking or cash?
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>>62869046
I miss my old 870.
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AAAaaAaaAAAhhhHH IM GUNSOOOOOOMING
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>>62869092
>tfw no money
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>>62869084
I never shoot mine
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>>62869035
Buy Brownell's DD or Geissele upper on sale. Combine with serviceable lower. Saves you about 800 bucks.
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>>62869102
I shot it all the time mag dumping into trash. You should try that it's fun.
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>>62869035
>>62869057
Seconded. You're going to throw away all the trash DD furniture anyway
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Gunsooming gives the same dopamine release as porn.
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>>62869176
I wouldn't know
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>>62869060
how badly does .22 diminish the life of an RC2?
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>>62869196
I see your furry porn tab open right next to that gunbroker auction you’re keeping an eye on bud
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is that gtg?
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102566788
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>>62869219
No
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>>62869176
Nothin hits better than the sweet release of gunsooming after a long edging session. I'll go days just checking & rechecking prices, checking ebay, adding to cart to calculate shipping at different vendors, trying various discount codes before finally busting out the credit card.
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>>62869025
contributing to basics
>>62869084
I sold mine, replace it with an A300, and regret it desu
>>62869207
fills it with lead. Having a 2 pound RC2 is badass!
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>>62869145
What’s with all the AI slop pics this dude keeps posting
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>>62869233
I do this unironically
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anon where should i buy more steel targets/hangars? etsy has always been my choice
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>>62869097
aaaaah i'm projecting
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>>62869232
that means yes
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>>62869145
So perfect for you then right?
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>>62869255
I like their fun shapes https://dragontargets.com/
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>>62869236
>and regret it desu
Why regret getting something better?
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>>62869255
Bring a cutting torch to the landfill's scrap metal pile
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>>62869241
its some cuck tourist dont even give them attention
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>>62869219
Just buy the Midwest industries quad handguard at that price.
>>62869236
I really want to build a 12.5 disappator with a c7 upper and then I realize that it would probably be retarded.
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>>62869035
It would cost you about $400 less to do this upper (free BCG)
https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcm-bfh-14-5-mid-length-enhanced-light-weight-upper-receiver-group-w-mcmr-13-handguard/
with this CH https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcm-ambidextrous-charging-handle-5-56mm-223-mod-3x3-large-latches-cosmetic-blem/
grip
https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcm-grip-mod-3-black/
nut
https://bravocompanyusa.com/receiver-extension-nut-castle-nut/
lower
https://www.dsarms.com/p-17303-dsa-ar15-zm4-lower-receiver-complete-internals-no-stock-assembly.aspx
charging handle
https://www.dsarms.com/p-15799-dsa-ar15-forged-alloy-charging-handle-with-standard-latch.aspx
receiver extension
https://pof-usa.com/product/6-position-anti-tilt-buffer-tube-kit/
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Oh, right, and the stock https://www.dsarms.com/p-12731-magpul-ar15-ctr-mil-spec-buttstock-black.aspx
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Talk me into buying nods
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>>62869352
Okay. Buy nods.
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>>62869273
the charging handle keeps flying off and hitting me in the face. Maybe i assembled it wrong who knows. Really I just dont need it, I got the patrol model and I really should gotten a longer barrel one. Ill prolly sell it and just keep shooting my trench gun for skeet
>>62869317
>I really want to build a 12.5 disappator with a c7 upper and then I realize that it would probably be retarded.
wow that really sounds like the worst idea, definitely dont do that

anyways enjoy my stupid idea that I actualized coincidentally right when it became a cringe meme to do so
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>>62869352
Furries have them, don’t buy them
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>>62869357
>became a cringe meme
When redditors started doing it?
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>the masses still haven’t discovered Lucas’s deviantart account from when he was younger
Gonna pop off harder than this GT thing
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>>62869352
It's cool and stuff
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>>62869375
nah, redditors have NEVER done the Service Rifle correctly. I think mine is about as close as you cant get. I mean when every zoomer started yabbering on about FNV and then it very quickly became a tranny thing, this was a couple years ago. Had been planning this build for awhile before that
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>>62869357
I like it. My father-in-law is super into wood working and keeps talking about how he wants to make wood AR furniture like that and sell it.
>wow that really sounds like the worst idea, definitely dont do that
Probably, but how will we know for sure until someone does it?
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>>62869025
he looks ticklish
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>>62869379
>F cup cortana and master chief smoking weed
So fucking what?
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>>62869391
>and then it became a tranny thing
Why do they always try to coopt all of the cool stuff?
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>>62869317
It is but it's ok
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>>62869409
its men with autism and/or mental illness, its to be expected that the autism ones would flock to circles where men with autism are
>>62869399
>Probably, but how will we know for sure until someone does it?
im rotating the apple in my head and it looks like shit
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>>62869407
You know what this guy is?>>62869241 yeah he was one of those for a short period of time
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>>62869391
>mine is about as close as you cant get
Pretty much, yeah
>>62869441
That doesn't explain how the IKEA plushie shark was appropriated
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>>62869446
lies
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>>62869409
>men interested in common men's interest
it's a mystery
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>>62869446
Nigga he even said he grew out of his furfag phase on an instagram live stream a long ass time ago it’s old news
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>>62869233
holy shit are you me
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>>62869449
you are a massive reddit faggot
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Christ even my coworkers are talking about garand thumb at lunch
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>>62869504
Let me see your lunch I really wanna see you it
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>>62869487
Just because I posted on reddit 13 years ago? GFYS
>>62869504
I hope Paul Harrel earned a lunch hour discussion amongst your coworkers
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>>62869464
Bro please he's not a degenerate furry anymore please bro leave him alone forget about all the disgusting things he's done please bro don't think about all the dogs he's violated please bro don't think of the cum
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>>62869528
His "coworkers" don't talk about someone as great as Paul.
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>>62869528
Paul Harrell was a faggot I'm glad he is dead.
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why are the overwhelming majority of f*rries pillow biters?
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Anyone sell multicam alpine vinyl wraps for my AR?
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>>62869560
no
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>>62869542
Duality of /arg/... but Paul Harrel was definitely crazy, which is understandable after killing three men not including the ones during his deployment
>>62869379
Screen caps, please
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>>62869564
Paul wasn't crazy. He just had a blunt personality.
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>>62869564
qrd on his justified homicides?
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>>62869057
>>62869062
>>62869169
>>62869337
Is the DD ambi lower worth the extra cost?
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>>62869568
how many dicks have you sucked?
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>>62869568
No. Any reason you would need an ambi lower for, you'd be dead anyway.
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Think I'll skip work tomorrow.
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>>62869609
>No goy you can't do that you need to make mr. goldb-uhhh yourself that money!
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>>62869566
You don't get eyes like these by just having a blunt personality
>>62869567
He and his wife were in a camper park when a man had an altercation with them over who-knows-what. The stranger then boarded a pickup truck and tried to them runover, but Paul lit him up with a 10/22 IIRC. It made the news https://www.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2007/06/charge_dismissed_in_fatal_camp.html

Second guy was some druggo that happened upon Paul during a hike

Third guy involved Paul and a group. I'm not privy to the details
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>>62869630
>3 'defensive' shootings
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>>62869630
Did GT think he was breedable?
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>>62869035
BCM or LWRCI, both better for less
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>>62869634
kek
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>>62869233
I hate that I agree unironically.
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>>62869633
Kek, but it's truly understated just how nutty Paul Harrel (the channel and its namesake) was. One of his most viewed videos is an hour long reply to Caleb Giddings, which Paul claimed as a legal obligation and the thumbnail (pictured) is him looking at a nonexistent screen mid fadeaway
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>>62869358
True, I have nods. I also cummed about half a soda cans worth to pokémon porn after the gigaleaks.
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>>62869025
gonna ask on the new thread for any extra suggestions
Guys couple quick questions
Got a budget of 2k gonna build a rifle
Was thinking about something less than 16in, like a dd mk18 upper, or something in 14.5. What brands should I be looking at or should i stick to 16?
Also this will be the first AR that I prob wont be buying completed, I've heard that you can skimp on lowers but that sounds dumb.
What upper lower combos should i be on the look out for?
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>>62869272
Those are fun. Fishy should get one of these.
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>>62869273
For me the fun is in working the action. I understand semi autos are better but shooting them does nothing for me.
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>>62869714
i prefer my torso target but about 3ft off the ground to simulate a grey
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>>62869409
Aparently there was some guy on /v/ that was trying to force it as a meme but idk what people outside of this site do and I don't go to /v/.
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>>62869459
Nice paint. From the thumbnail I can barely see it.
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>>62869710
Do whatever you want
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>>62869718
What if you put the face on the torso?
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>>62869580
>Any reason you would need an ambi lower for, you'd be dead anyway.
Long range precision shooting while prone, noguns
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>>62869813
no need for ambi at all
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>>62869813
You're a fag, and you don't "long range precision shoot". You indoor shoot at 25 yards, and play grab ass with other men.
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throw>flood
Not even an argument
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>>62869820
flood>throw
I will argue this for the next 12 hours and rape your holes
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>>62869815
>>62869817
Lol, okay angry fag.
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>>62869830
>okay
Glad you came to your senses and agree
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>>62869830
>you're mad because I'm gay
Good one, poop stabber.
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>>62869827
Not surprised that the homosexual apartment-dwelling deviant would prefer flood. You will never be a woman, you will never own a home, you will never own land, you will never start a family.
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>>62869827
>not even an argument
Not sure why you bothered to respond
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>>62869817
Grab ass isn't inherently gay it just often ends up that way in the heat of the moment.
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>>62869827
No you don't understand. He is going to be running up to parked cars and pointing his rifle at them. This is a good idea and if your light can't handle it then you are ngmi.
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>>62869837
>brooo I need my throw light for 100m engagements at night
You instantly die. You are retarded.
>>62869836
Wrong.
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>>62869847
Nigga you're still seething about this? I thought we figured this out like 3 days ago
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>>62869849
we figured this out six years ago
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>>62869853
Yeah, we shifted away from terrible cloud defensive "muh lumens" to high candela chad lights
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>>62869858
no, we switched from shitty malkof high candela lights to the M600df.
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>>62869287
Is this Alaska anon I have a question for you
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>>62869860
I will insert a high lumen maglite into your anus
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>>62869868
i wouldn't even feel it
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>>62869868
I am ok with that
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>>62869820
The flood are powerful and idk who the throw are
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>>62869880
they throw things
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>>62869886
Flood can like infect shit so imma still go with flood
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>>62869390
Why do you use flash cans instead of 3 prongs?
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>>62869890
cool have fun when i throw rocks at you i guess
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>>62869868
Been there done that.
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>>62869922
I mean really, who hasn't at least tried? The sharp edges can be a little harsh.
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>>62869935
Just put a condom on it ezpz
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Word on the street is A2 paid Mike to impregnate his trans wife
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>>62869981
But then I can't get buttpregnant.
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>>62869568
no. buy a $30 anderson lower (or geissele blem during one of their sales) and install an ambi selector if you really need it. Takes less than 5 mins, any nogunz can do it with youtube

>t. kac upper psa/anderson lower enjoyer
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>>62869868
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>>62869862
Yes
>>62869893
For fun
I have both
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>>62869568
Ambi bolt catch is nice, regardless of what sour grapes anons say. It's my favorite ambi feature. Whether it's "worth it" really depends on how much the extra money will set you back. My first AR was milspec, I later added an ambi safety and mag catch. I eventually wanted ambi bolt catch enough to build a new lower. The Griffin one is fairly inexpensive, could slap a Geissele upper on one and save a bit of money.
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Are there are 30 cal K cans worth a shit? Ideally something 1.70"-2.0" in diameter, 4-5" OAL no mount, hub compatible, all Inconel, and sub 13oz no mount. Anything fit that?

>>62868553
Saved image, nice

>>62868638
Nice pic
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>>62869794
ill just draw it desu
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>>62870064
What do the greys cns look like anyways?
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>>62870088
its a huge contention in the ebe community but ill try to sum it up
basically the same as humans because they cross breeded with neanderthals to create 'modern' man
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>>62870032
CAT
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>>62870105
It's bred not breeded but I don't want to be shitty. Don't they have psychic defenses? I want to learn how to train around that.
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>>62870134
they have telekenisis yes, you have to declalcyfiy your pineel cgland via dmt or lysergic acid diethlamyd in large doses to stand a chance
its easier to just patrol forests with thermals/nods flashing IR at uap's in the sky
dont go into it expecting to fight and win you have to outsmart them
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>>62870149
>you have to declalcyfiy your pineel cgland via dmt or lysergic acid diethlamyd in large doses
Alright I got puddled once and had to drive myself and my friend home. Those greys are fucking toast.
>dont go into it expecting to fight and win you have to outsmart them
I'm familiar with several forms of alien h2h combat but good point. Gotta stay frosty.
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i WILL find a dumb entrance and I WILL dome a grey or glowie come hell or high water
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>>62870169
It's really more trouble than it's worth
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>>62870014
Oh true. Do you notice a difference? I don't know anything about them or how they do
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>>62870177
>least obvious fedpost
I too would like to see aliens
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>>62870180
I'd say its very close to nox
The 7.62 version gets overwhelmed by tula tho, at least on a 12"
Biggest positive over a 3 prong is it's harder to bend if the rifle falls over or you bump it on a rock or something
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>>62870182
you have a better chance in cave systems of the appalachians than finding a DUMB
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He's returning to his roots
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>>62869753
thanks fren
>>62870032
I was trying to show the difference in size between the two, but it came out with them looking closer than they really are.
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>>62870459
>vanilla “kinks”
No mas respecto
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>>62870032
cancontrast.com
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>>62870571
>dude I just want to breed and stuff
BORING
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>>62870595
>my fetish is hetero sex with adult women for the purpose of procreation
This shouldn't be weird.
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>>62870121
I just got mine. LGS had a massive pile of cans waiting to be picked up seems like everyone is buying stuff like crazy due to the short approval times.
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>>62870600
I think it has more to do with him not being monogamous just like a muslim
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>>62870622
He shouldn't have snubbed the Mormon's then.
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>>62870600
Nobody would care if he didn't larp as some trad religious family man who talked about how things like porn are bad
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>>62869084
I loved 870s until I bought a new one. I'd always bought used Wingmasters/Police Magnums. It's such a complete piece of shit I won't even sell it because I don't want someone else to wind up stuck with it.
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>>62870642
Well yeah the new ones suck that’s why I said old 870.
Captcha pootbh lol
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>>62870642
I bought a freedom group 870 like 10 years ago and it took 3 trips to the Remington factory to get it to run right. Incredibly rough chamber, poorly shaped ejector and an issue with the lifter. Runs perfect now though.
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>>62870655
At the time that I bought it I had no idea they'd gone so far downhill, so I just assumed it would be the same as every other 870 I had owned up to that point.
Mine works but the finish looks like it was painted on with a fucking roller, it feels like the action bars and carrier are covered in sandpaper, and I had no idea about the stupid fucking dimpled magazine tubes (Nevermind that it came with the world's shittest magazine tube spring/follower) until I got home and tried to pop on one of the extensions I had on hand. I felt like a retard drilling holes in a brand new shotty less than an hour into owning it.
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>>62870610
Are form 1s being approved as quickly?
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>>62870679
Everything is, there are guys getting approvals within hours of submission even on trusts
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>>62870685
Maybe I should build that 733 clone after all..
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>>62870459
>GWOT
can't wait for another 30+ year old man to tell me that I need to set up my gear as if I was being carted around by an IFV all day pushing around hajis. 30+ year olds really be living in the past.
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>>62870689
Mine took 10 days in April and it's only gotten faster since then
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What were they thinking?
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>>62870725
"let's rip-off geissele again"
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>>62869595
What’s up dude. Been a while
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>>62869716
You don’t like shooting fast? Nothing better then triple tapping steel at 300 yards fast as fuck
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>>62870816
You get you can from silencer shop yet?
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>>62870816
Fast shooting a semi shotgun is less fun. Pumping fast is more fun
Not that anon
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>>62870459
I hope he says the comment section is wild like he used to, would hit so hard rn
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I can't breed
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>>62870816
Based
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>>62870827
>he's never mag dumped a drum out of a saiga 12
I smdh tbqfhwyfam
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>>62870838
He can beat this in the eyes of the majority of his viewers if he just owns it and leans into the meme for sure.
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>>62870725
>4000 dollars
HK are assholes, simple as. Fuck them. We have cheaper and better alternatives.
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>>62870839
Same
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>>62870823
Nope. Paperwork submitted last Wednesday with the FFL but nothing still. Pretty fucking annoying. Not that it really matters now, not sure when I can get back out to shoot
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>>62870913
It’s not even chrome lined. What the fuck is wrong with them? They have some sort of weird autism where they refuse to sell chrome lined barrels to civilians or something.
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>>62870695
>don’t set up your gear for urban combat and sustainment
>set it up for trench warfare instead
>2021 is so dated we should be kitted out like 1918
Total zoomer death
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>>62870938
chrome lining is a tool of war and has no place on the streets in the hands of stinky civilians
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>>62870938
>what the fuck is wrong with them?
Do you see those letters "H" and "K"? That means we can charge whatever the fuck we want.
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>>62870938
As I understand it the German government says CL and CHF are weapons of war that have no place in civilian hands. Also HK has a maximum export for civilian sale quota from the German government. Now the price point is completely HK.
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If HK really gave a fuck theyd chromeline stateside. They don't care. Now pay the $4k for a barrel that lasts 5k rounds.
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>>62870943
>set up your kit so you are either carrying 3+1 mags and can't go into the prone
comforting to know that in case of any emergency, 30 year old GWOT vets will be the first faggots to go
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>>62870562
This one is much more accurate
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>>62871026
>If HK really gave a fuck theyd chromeline stateside.
This is what I’ve been saying the whole time. However retarded boomers will still argue for HK and won’t care if its unlined. I’ve seen multiple geriatrics on HKPro state something akin to, I DONT CARE IF HK FUCKS IT UP IM A FAN IM STILL BUYING!
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Watching YouTube videos on the rein 3.0 and it seems like the orange plastic piece that gets adjusted to accommodate different length 18650 batteries sometimes comes loose leaving you with a light that doesn’t activate.
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>>62871050
>run a top dot on literally everything
>cant shoot from the prone
So you’ve obviously never shot from the prone with full kit on and yet for some reason you also think you’re going to be spending a lot of time shooting in the prone position
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>>62870725
The massive billboard logo is so gaudy it’s unreal
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>>62871062
That's called a cult and there are many of them around now adays.
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>>62871068
It only comes loose if you don't tension it enough. People don't read the manual and just run it.
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>>62871068
I can defintely see that being an issue if you're constantly swapping between different batteries, anecdotally, I set mine up for flat top 18650s when I first recieved it, and it hasn't moved at all.
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>>62871071
Top dot is fine for prone. What isn't fine is when your primary optic is tall. What's when prone sucks. You get a lot of neck strain and often have to float your head to use it.
>hurr durr prone doesn't matter
In any situation that matters, prone will be very important
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>>62871068
>18650
>it's not 18 by 650
??
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>>62871101
If you’re wearing plates and stacking mags or have pouches with items in front of your mags you will be higher off the ground than if you didn’t so craning your neck up isn’t the hard part it’s getting your neck down.
You would actually want a raised optic to compensate for this.
In any case you’re not going to be doing a lot of prone stuff.
That’s more of a react to contact / bounding thing where you’re looking to get to cover where you’ll no longer be prone.
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>>62871071
If I'm already prone I'm shooting through the scope.
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>>62871130
better have a bipod
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As a femboy I only use mlok because quad rails are too heavy and hurt my hands.
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>>62871075
buy-in from customers doesn't happen because some sweaty pm and coked out marketing director want it. it happens because engineering builds a good product and cs supports it. success will always be an elusive mystery to these dipshits
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>>62871126
Nah. Ukraine footage shows otherwise. There's a 15min video with someone with a standard height eotech and he was still constantly shooting the dirt in front of him accidentally. A taller optic would make it even worse, you have to expose more of your head to clear your bore.
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>quad benefits
aesthetic
all your shitty old accessories mount right up
>quad drawbacks
constantly evangelized by the most annoying manchildren in the '''scene'''
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>>62871126
>In any case you’re not going to be doing a lot of prone stuff
Why do people constantly post shit like this

Project more
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>>62871182
Saaaaame
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>>62869449
I like how even though I haven't posted Lucas in a few days it carries on through other anons
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>>62870595
you assholes are like a vinyl record stuck on repeat
>>62857328
>>62858722
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>>62871202
>a ukrainian conscript with 2 weeks of training wasn't accounting for HOB
>somehow this ties into being able to comfortably acquire a sight picture on standard height optics while in the prone wearing plates with a mag placard
I don't need a video in ukraine when I have my first hand experience.
Good luck with your monopod goals of full kit in the prone with a standard height optic.
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>>62871198
That's complete bullshit and you and I both know that.
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>>62871169
Duh? If the topic is top dotting a scope, that's a setup that uses a bipod.
>>62871204
>he doesn't top dot his t2 with another t2
When did /arg/ jump the shark?
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>>62871255
>ACOGs, ELCANs, LPVOs
>bipods
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I've successfully been psyopped into wanting an elcan. What are thr BIN prices for new and used (let's be honest ill buy it used)?
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>>62871290
$100 is definitely BIN
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I'll be on the lookout
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>>62871225
Anon, that poster doesn't even own a gun. Let him play pretend. No one who shoots is in danger of believing him.
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thoughts on the sub $200 Sig Romeo7? Thinking about putting it on my M16A4 clone.
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>>62871313
Happy FF skelly
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>>62871313
Happy FF
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>>62871323
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>>62871318
Cons:
Its not very well made and uses the worst batteries
Pros:
It looks sort of like the wrong aimpoint from a distance if you squint
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>>62871332
>not very well made

we're talking about a $200 sight. not an elcan or an acog namefag
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>>62871216
We're a fireteam now, that's what men of a unit do for each other
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>>62871363
Talkin about id much rather see you in a $200 chinese T2 clone or a used aimpoint pro for $350ish
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>>62871363
For just a little more get yourself used aimpoint pro that will actually look good and be better
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>>62871364
>southcels see snow for the first time
>better get my tactical snow shoes out
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>>62871363
That's like the worst $/value argument you can make
The same clone from other chink companies (vortex, pa) is like $100
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>>62871377
>argh I cant hit the trigger worth a damn let me expose my fingers
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>>62871364
>>62871377
>10th mountain LARP with the bros
Fun allowed
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>>62871332
A2, what’s the run down for taking off my SCAR 20 MD? Heat? Water? Kroil?
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>>62871387
>t. less arctic experience than Alaskanon
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>>62871377
It looks like 2" of snow, kek
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>>62871377
Uh is there something wrong with having snow shoes?
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>>62871387
>he isn’t monkey maxxing
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>>62870121
>>62870610
>CAT
>Lame fucking buggy website that is impossible to navigate, absent any bottom line up front information, absolutely inundated with stupid website features to wow smoothbrain gunsoomers

Okay but lets assume we can navigate past the gay fucking cartoon characters and actually find the cans of potential interest.

There is the ODB, Weight Inconel: 19.5 OZ
Overall Length: 6.85”
Diameter: 1.60”

The Model: CAT/JL/A1
Caliber: 762NATO
Weight Titanium: 11.4 OZ (15.0 OZ MIL) *
Overall Length: 8.20”
Diameter: 1.75”

And the Model: CAT/DD/A1
Weight Inconel: 16.1 oz (Core) *
Overall Length: 5.75”
Diameter: 1.60”

Nothing I'm seeing here is very remarkable. Yes yes I get it, they're low back pressure but have decent at muzzle reduction. That is absolutely commendable, but street prices north of $1000, and the weight and length specs on these... Plus the JL in my opinion isn't an option being that it is a Titanium can and liable to spark. The ODB is way too heavy if the published specs are to be trusted at 19.5oz
The DD isn't terrible, but spending $1100 for a 16oz can that is 5.75" long and 1.60" diameter... And of course they don't take the time to make this specifically clear, but I believe those specs are without any mount, so you're looking at 17.5oz and 6" total with a Rearen, direct thread, or YHM Kurz Ti style mount.

Just overall, no thanks.

>>62870562
>>62871056
Excellent content Anon, thank you. I saved both.

>>62870610
Which CAT is this? Can you weigh and measure it without any mount in it please?

>>62870816
Nice pic
I just got my 509T piggyback mounted on top of the NX8 2.5-20x on my 14.5"
Ran some reaction to contact around my car at 75m using the top dot. It did well. All the weight reduction efforts up front seemed to have paid off. With particular platforms after a few drills I feel pretty gassed but with this setup I felt like I could basically continue the drills at that pace indefinitely. Shame the barrel isn't chrome line
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Wuggy wall post
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>>62871400
What level is that and how do you like it?
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>wild CTE wall of text appears
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>>62871412
Btfo by skins
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>>62871400
Some people bitch about them being impossible to remove. I just did my standard boil and then supported the barrel and it came right off. Was I lucky? I dont know I think FN stopped mongoing them. Other one ive taken the MD off of was also easy.
The SSR package MDs were the real tricksters.
>>62871401
Whats that anon? No lockdeicer?
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>>62871368
Where do I get one readily for $350
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>>62871428
SG Pulse. I’m happy with it. My only beef is there aren’t really any physical controls and it’s fine via Bluetooth. I made a 3D printed cover for it because it can be a little bright under low light. Plenty of cool features. How did you integrate that mlok slot into the East German handguard?
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>>62871416
>>62871425
We're so fucking back
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>>62871444
Tacswap?
Wetworks had comp m2s other day for 325 and while not as good as the pro, still leagues better than being a sigger
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>>62871438
Okay I’ll just give it a quick boil and cross my fingers that it’s works. After the KAC MD refusing to come off I need an easy one.
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>>62871438
>lock deicer
Don't get that on your skin below 0, it's quite uncomfortable
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>>62871438
Sample size of 2?
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>>62871444
Tacswap
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>>62871416
I like the piggy backed 509T. Works well. A tiny bit too high imo but I can passive aim under NODs without issue and find it when I need it. I prefer it over the 45 deg mounts
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Imagine supporting sig in any way shape or form
>b-but its only $200
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>>62871451
What are those on the ground?
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>>62871493
Used dilators
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>>62871493
Brass casings
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>>62871493
A mix of simmunition. speerFX and UTMs
>>62871458
Sometimes it be like that, most people dont own a 308 SASS
>>62871456
If its below 0 you shouldnt be taking off liners at all
>>62871454
Kek, I also had an upper from KAC with the cursed 3 prong that was like throwing out peoples shoulders after several boils. Got it out and ended up trashing the 3 prong that was on there.
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>>62871500
The KAC MD was marring the wrench it was on there so tight. I dropped off at my local gunsmith and it took him a week. I had to get someone else to do it or I know I was going to get frustrated and fuck something up
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>>62871500
What are speerfx and UTMs
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I still can't decide on the turbo or non turbo Surefire
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>>62871416
What's the point of a direct thread mount? Isn't that just direct threading onto the barrel with extra steps?
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>>62871557
non turbo really good for indoor use
turbo good for outdoor use, opposing light sources, getting more light on one object
For home defense use a non turbo
For everything else a turbo is probably the way to go especially if you plan to do low light shooting because you may not know what the courses of fire will entail for that night if you aren't setting it up yourself.
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>>62871557
Arisaka 18650 or turbo if you want to blind 'people'
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>>62871520
I was legit thinking I was going to snap an in index pin on the fucker even with the proper KAC tooling.
>>62871524
Speer FX was bought out by simmunition so I guess technically it IS simmunition now. But basically speer/simmunitions are modified centerfire rifle rounds that shoot a little wax+plastic nugget down range with a good amount of force and some marking (look at paint splatter in >>62871500). This is useful for training CQB since you cant really shoot people with live ammo easily and paper targets dont fight back. They fit in standard rifles and handguns with a conversion bolt/slide, simmunition and fx use a longer than standard round so the conversion bolt/slide cant strike a live round since the live round sits deeper in the chamber. So you rack one in, flip safety off and hurt people with them.

UTM is a british solution thats similar but uses a vastly more complex catrdige. Their bolt is rimfire so it cant strike live centerfire ammunition. Their rounds are a mutlistage system that basically using a series of ramset blanks to recoil the rifle and kick a round down range.
>How much do they hurt?
Of course youre wearing PPE because all of these will eat your eyes in a sitting. So gasmask, gloves, bdus, skimask, etc
simmunition/fx feel like an airsoft gun. Like fairly soft as a whole. You will know youre hit but overall you will be fine. UTMs on the other hand, holy fuck bro those are going through BDU tops. Shooting through surefire lights, skipping off the ground and shattering lightbulbs. They hurt enough that you actually are afraid of being shot. Very much by design but holy fuck they are painful.
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>>62871557
Lights are the most overthought thing of all. Unless you're trying to spotlight deer or will never ever have night vision, megathrow is not needed. Get the regular version, which is better for indoors where you're more likely to use or need a light.
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>>62871578
>indoor
turbo
>outdoor
rein
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>>62871416
I got 562g-564g my scale isn’t the most accurate but should be close enough. It’s still slightly lighter as a total package even with mount than the putnik with mount and wolverine. My main priority was back pressure reduction since I didn’t want to have to get KNS pistons for a bunch of AKs and I just don’t like gas.
For you, I can’t really think of anything that meets all those requirements. Energetic armament Vox K2, YHM resonator K, CAT DD, rugged micro 30 are close ish.
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>>62871601
People say this then they show up to a night shoot and either don't have nods and have to shoot targets more than 25 yards away or they encounter opposing white light with targets behind it for the first time and can't overcome it to see what's behind.
There's enough options on the market where you can find something that isn't on one extreme of the floodmaxx / hyper through spectrum.
From my observation the Surefire 640 Turbo provides enough flood that you can still use it reasonably indoors but it also provides enough concentrated throw that you can do other things too.
Unless a rifle is for home defense or a specialized use case it's probably a good idea to have equipment that will allow you to train in a wide variety of circumstances.
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>>62871626
I like my Rein 2.0 for both
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>>62871631
All that stuff is range theatrics that don’t translate to real scenarios tho
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>>62871630
Forgot to mention, CAT ODB inconel and the length specs are correct.
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>>62871631
>or they encounter opposing white light with targets behind it for the first time and can't overcome it to see what's behind.
Not a thing. Thanks for playing.
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>>62870912
Mike I fuckin dare you, start your intro with "Like and subscribe, if you don't I will fucking breed you, comment section is out of control"
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I should get a scar.
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>>62870827
Lmfao no dipshit, being able to stay on target due to not racking is mo bedda
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>>62871655
>another I should buy X trAshpost
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>>62871661
Yeah Im rich so I buy a lot. Sorry you dont have money anon.
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>>62871668
Rich in calories
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>>62871589
>I was legit thinking I was going to snap an in index pin on the fucker even with the proper KAC tooling.

Kek atleast I’m not the only one here. I soaked it in a bucket for 4 days, boiled, heated it and it did nothing. I was about 2 attempts away from just cutting the MD off
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>>62869233
I enjoy edging my shit while refreshing the real time inventory and not adding to cart until there's 1 left
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>>62871655
Yeah but only if you make it sick. Get some collectible rare one and make it 300 blk, or a scar 17 in 8.6 blk. Would be raw, bro
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the AR15 is a gay rifle for gay men
the mass adoption of the AR15 by the homosexual community is a sign of its inherently queer design

Of any weapon firearm or rifle the AR15 is arguably the icon of queer self armament
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>>62871558
Mount =/= muzzle device

>>62871630
Wow thanks a ton anon really
This is the ODB?
There isn't much. The Liberty Precision Machine Anthem K2 is very light, sub 12oz no mount, 5.1" or so OAL no mount, and large diameter, 1.75" or so OD, but is a pure SS can, no inconel, and is presumably relatively high back pressure. Good price, weight, and dimension specs.
The BT SRBS 7.62 is also interesting, but long at 6.5" or so OAL no mount. Lightweight at 12.5oz, at least for the old non-3D printed version.
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>>62871689
Meanwhile in reality
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>>62871668
If you're rich why are you stealing my Elliott pics
Give it back right now
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Lonely trust fund kiddies with inheritance money and land general.
Hey at least you got online friends on /k/ !
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>>62871709
haha wow you sure showed those guys who have money, guns, land. What losers xD
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>>62871704
mirin shoe size on the right
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>>62871646
>Not shooting the aliens as they disembark
Risky.
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>>62871715
I am simply tired of the myth of a few great boys
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>>62871725
Do you always whine about how people are better than you, or only on the internet?
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>>62870816
I have that mount. No matter how snug the bolts are i can still look between the recoil lug and pic slot and see that it moved under recoil, is yours gtg? To be fair I have an LMT so it's probably not reptilias fault
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>>62871704
TCGFs ass looks like that?
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>>62871728
That wasn't me, I do find brown-nosers disgusting and subhuman, though. But I let actions speak for themselves
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>>62870938
It's hammer forged cannon steel bro it will out last stupid CL
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Has anyone done a controlled experiment to determine which muzzle device configuration results in the least visual at muzzle signature when combined with a suppressor? Muzzle brake, flash hider, or direct thread bare muzzle to maximize blast chamber volume?

Does anyone know if there is a stainless steel flash hiding end cap option for SilencerCo Omega 300 and Hybrid bravo front threads?

Thanks.
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>>62871738
No need to be shy now
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>>62871631
I use a KM2-C head which is very mid by all metrics in both white light and IR, and I find it perfectly sufficient in all regards. Of course, I actually have nods.

Using white light to engage targets more than 25m away is some real retard shit.
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>>62871694
Anthem K2 says it was designed to have low blowback on the product page and says it’s 5.5”. Honestly asides from it not being inconel it looks like a decent option but I have no experience with it.
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>>62871704
Does anyone have the link to the video my? You know the one. Asking for myself.
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>>62871746
The problem with that is ever suppressor design is different and what works well with one doesn’t necessarily work with the other
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>>62871746
I don't care I'm using a 3-prong for best performance naked, and if my can isn't suppressing well enough I bought the wrong can. All serious cans should be designed to work best with a 3-prong because comps and brakes are gay 90% of the time.
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>>62871732
Your lug should be pressed against the front slot so recoil shouldn’t do anything but push it against the pic slot. Are you sure your mount is staying tight, have you used loctite ? I haven’t had a single issue with mine yet.
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>>62871761
had it bookmarked but deleted it out of postnut regret, sorry anon
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>my ouncies!
>my grammies!
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>>62871773
You know how the saying goes, the straw that broke the camel's back.
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>>62871761
I only have the title screen
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>>62871776
Just remove one king size snickers from your kit to offset. Anyway I'm not a camel.
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>>62871761

Armalite Rifles really have heen solved.

https://coomer.su/onlyfans/user/jasminenyxjade/post/1049483233
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>>62871779
>Anyway I'm not a camel
And that's why you're not capable of carrying out a Browning machine gun everywhere you go.
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>>62871780
Damn they're both fucking gross looking. Absolute freeway underpass, bus stop tier fodder. I think I see this pair loitering next to the abandoned building next to the gas station sometimes.
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>>62871782
True jfmsu senpai iwnba camel why live
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>>62871748
Hah gay
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we almost made it to 1pm est before it was mentioned this time around, nature is healing (slowly)
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>>62871780
Weimerica
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>>62871780
I’ll do anything for you
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>>62871318
Save up for a Comp M2 off Throughbred or a used Aimpoint PRO
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>>62869337
pretty mid upper with an antiquated optic on it.
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$800-900 budget for first rifle, any recommendations?''

aero m4e1 complete lower near me for $230 and will probably bank on a complete BCM upper on black friday
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>>62873055
That's the idea
>antiquated optic
LPVO's are even older than ACOG's
>>62873399
Checked
>m4e1
Cringe, get an M16 cut
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>>62870816
I can mag dump a pump faster than you realize. Dead thread oh well.
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>>62871656
Skill issue.
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>>62871050
>3+1 mags and can't go into the prone
Skill issue. I can go prone just fine with 9+1 + whatever else I have. The appropriate amount of mags is as many as you can bring + more.



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