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>>62884221I've noticed a surprising improvement in my P30's DA/SA trigger feel. It's now at least as good as my USP Match, and almost as good as my Beretta 84BB.This is all I've done to it:>start with stock P30>shoot ~700 rounds-small improvement at this point, plus getting used to it->install gayguns short reset kit>install HK factory nickel plated sear spring>clean and lightly lube trigger components and reassemble-noticeable improvement by this point, expected->shoot ~800 more rounds-another noticeable improvement by this point-Plus sprinkle in some dry fire practice a few times a week, but on and off.It started out pretty gritty and underwhelming, but now the trigger is close to what I'd call good (and not just by HK's somewhat reduced standards). What gives? I know round count and dry fire improve trigger feel somewhat, but 1500 rounds is really not a lot in the grand scheme of things. Is that really all it takes, or is this just me getting used to it?
>>62883202kek, I don't know why, but a disproportionate number of people who like guns seem to live like heuristics are natural physical laws and anecdotes are in depth statistical analysis. Ironically, these same people are also capable of extreme cognitive dissonance, like you need 15 rounds in a defensive weapon unless it's a revolver or 1911. There are also incredible levles of brand loyalty to the point of out and out tribalism. For instance, the P320 has gained a reputation forquestionable safety, er go all Sigs are bad and so are people who prefer them. On the other side any criticism of their preferred equipment, however valid, is treated as an attack on their lineage and moral character. It's all pretty funny when you take a step back, but it makes honest discourse difficult. It also creates an environment for toxic people to revel in a toxic feedback loop and it can become tiresome.
>>62884447>t. Doesn’t own a handgun
>>62884515>t. smokes too much weed
>>62884447>kek, <insert shit take> What’s there to “kek” about
>>62884515>>62884521>>62884525Holy desprate for attention samefag geting called out HARD.>here are three (you)s for you lil man.
We like guns and anime on hereEspecially anime with guns
All this seething because of one throwaway post I made about some Indian made gun 2 threads ago.
>>62884554>gunsI like em>animemeh
>>62884565You just need to find some that suit your tastes, also manga tends to be a lot better anyway
>>62884554Dont blindly defend avatarfags dude just because its a chinktoon
>>62884560So you caused thus fuckfest by invoking the name of the PPtroon? This is your fault and I hope you feel bad. (You don't because it was your goal in the first place.)
>>62884588Take your meds
>>62884586I'm not defending anyoneMy hatred for anti-anime tourists knows no bounds
>>62884592Another original post.
>OP posts cool picture>one (1) anon replies with a discussion about his handgun (no replies)>another anon continues shitflinging fest (13 replies)I love handgonne generale
>>62884605Sperging out isn't that original on 4chan either.
>>62884632More you acknowledge his tantrum the more he posts. This is like talking to homeless rambling schizos tier dumb.
>>62884554Make sure to remind the PPfag to fuck off when he inevitably does his troony animefag avatarposting
>>62884693To be honest, I kind of regret this since it’s the pinnacle of handguns. There isn’t much reason to buy anything else now. How can I gunsoom when I know they’re inferior to the NIGHTHAWK CUSTOM PREDATOR?
>>62884632Are you saying that isn't an insightful observation about gunfags? I had the kernal of that though in a gun store while discussing AR vs AK long before 4chan was even a thing. This retarded competition for attention only confirms my hypothesis.
>>62884751does the fluting on the barrel actually help? or it a meme?
>>62884632I see you didn’t respond to the P30 question. I wonder why is that. Maybe since we fucking don’t have HK P30s we aren’t qualified to talk about it
>>62884751I hate to admit it, but on a square range paper target gungammer level, this is pretty true. IDK if I'd be willing to put my life on the line with it, but it's an extremely well crafted handgun. I wouldn't personally drop that kind of coin on a gun, but if you can properly afford it, go you.
>>62884794Mentally most adult men are not adults until 25-30, this thread and the younger gun owning community in general shows this. When someone who can't control their appetite can hold off on endless attention whore shitposting but random young adults can't that speaks volumes.
>>62884805Not that faggot, but I've never even shot a P30, and every HK I've ever fired (mostly USPenis) have been well above average. I am skeptical they had a P320 drop on quality during that design iteration.
>>62884794>Are you saying that isn't an insightful observation about gunfags?No, it has merit>>62884805Touche, anon. Touche. >The other HK P30 owners are too busy working for a living to respondYeah, that checks out kek
>>62884815I’m not willing to put my life on the line yet with it, I need to fix up the mags with some new internals and tune the extractor a little more but it handles Winchester Service Grade like a champ. A thought is in my mind that I would have been just as happy with a Staccato, Platypus, or Prodigy even but in a few months you’ll see why I purchased this thing, it’s the double stack twin to my other one. >>62884802Meme, it’s only fluted in the barrel hood. If it was fully fluted it has some benefits like reduce mass, more surface area for cooling, debris can migrate to the flutes and not get in the way. >>62884839>USPenis >above average I mean, a well worn in USP is probably above average in the SA department but my standard of DA pulls is based off Beretta 92s, PX4s, and the P226. The USP DA pull isn’t in the same league as those.
>>62884600You do realize that by using the word 'tourist', you essentially admit to being a subhuman, right?
>>62884856So its attention whoring because everyone knows trying to epin trole 4chan is a waste of your time.
>>62884351It’s not a meme that trigger components wear in after enough rounds/dryfires. My first gun which was a M9A3 with a LTT trigger job I later installed has a fucking amazing trigger after thousands of rounds and tens of thousands of dry fires. During Covid I just sat and dry fired it all day
>>62884828Kek, wrong thread.Yeah, this is a pretty good lesson in punching down. Maybe bullying the maladjusted gay guy into killing himself isn't the victory we think it is.Maybe the real win is being kind to your fellow man and trying to guide him to truth and enlightenment.Bringing people up is much more rewarding than pushing them down.
turkshit while turking a shitjokes aside, i genuinely love Canik. amazing pistols with great triggers.
I have a mighty need to rice out a polymer 9mm into a stockless PDWMy idea was a frame mounted compensator and a picatinny mounted "spare magazine holder" (totally not an angled foregrip, please do not shoot my cat Mr gAyTF man)Anyone know of some products that could help me build this abomination? I would probably have to start with a glock.
>>62884951Why not just buy a PDP?
>>62884951>You never know if the weird guy at school/work has a cheap but effective heater in his pants.Be nice to everyone, folks.
>>62884956A stockless PDW is the only thing dumber than a regular PDW. I love it. Doesn't flux have something just like that for the P320 or maybe even a glock?
>>62884983poverty, the PDP is realistically not much more, but the PDP SF is overpriced
>>62884865>t. Butthurt Tourist
>>62884588You can’t even explain how in a troon, schizo
>>62884983i don't like walther and i don't want to be like you. simple as
>>62885183>poorfag cope
>>62885183What do you mean "like me?" Racist and Germanic?
My Inox brigadier came in. Gotta go fill out paperwork then wait three days later (gay)
>>62884899Bullying is good when its saving someone from using shitty old guns in a botched self defense situation.
>>62885234Imagine having to wait 10 business days like some people do, imagine that the state system for background checks goes “down” so effectively no one in the state can legally buy a firearm
How many handguns is too many? I have 17 handguns now. I have no desire to buy any more. I have a slight desire to downsize though. Just the amount of boxes and space the mags and everything take up is kind of chore to manage.
>>62885267If you can justify the gun, even a “it’s fun” or “cool looking” then it’s never too many. When you can’t justify it at all, get rid of it
>>62885267stash them loaded around the house, bury a few, throw one in the bottom of a lake
>>62885267>>62885276And here I am, feeling like I should downsize my collection of <10 handguns.
>>62885188a canik rival is 2x the price of a PDP faggot
>>62885306Can you justify them?
>>62885316All except one or two, realistically. It's sad because one of them is the first pistol I ever owned, even though it's just a Glock 19. I don't shoot it at all anymore since it's my only striker fired gun and I really just prefer to carry and shoot DA/SA pistols and revolvers. On practical grounds, I feel I should sell it to free up some space and cash for things I care more about. I just haven't gotten around to it and sometimes I give myself a hard time with "oh but it was my first pistol, that's important for reasons"
>>62885313>pay more>get worse gunpoorfags really are a special breed
>>62885336Never sell your first gun you cocksucker
>>62885351Even if it's not unique? It's not like it was given to me. The only thing special about it is that it was my first pistol. It wasn't even my first choice but I needed a pistol and that's what was available.Now that I spell it out, that could be reason enough to keep it...
>>62885383That gun was there for you when you had no gun. You went from noguns to hasguns because of it. Even if you never shoot it again, it's worth keeping as a milestone. Plus it's not like you'd get a lot anyway for it and it isn't taking up a lot of space.
>>62885393...you're right, anon. Fuck.
>>62885339compared to the Rival's 2.3lb trigger pull. lul. luhmao even. you're just seething that a turk built a better pistol than your glorious arayans in germany
>>62885414the canik trigger has 3 miles of pretravel and overtravel, it being """good""" is nothing short of you being ignorant to what a good trigger really is lmao>turk simps seething
>>62885414also the rival pull is only ever anywhere near 2lb after modifying the piss out of it so cope harder
>>62885439>>62885430i've shot a pdp before. the trigger pull is noticeably heavier. it's okay to admit you're wrong and pulling shit out of your ass, anon. the canik doesn't need to be modified like your deutschschlop.
25 acp bros wya?
>>62885464>25 acp bros wya?6ft under for a half century.
>>62885464Jetfire Jim is too pure for /hg/
>>62885451the difference is, AT MOST, a half pound, the factory canik trigger is not great> the canik doesn't need to be modified like your deutschschlop.it absolutely does, if it didnt then freedomsmith wouldnt make aftermarket triggersagain, cope harderif you had a trigger gauge (you cant afford one) then youd be able to prove your point, but you cant, since you havent a clue what youre talking about
>>62885038Nah, flux is a full blown PDW chassis with a folding stock.I'm looking do something even more retarded like pic related
Yeah I bought a Canik when they were $400 and I'm quite pleased with it.
>>62885253>That shitty old gun will get you kilt in da streetz>You should use that shitty old gun to KYS >t. helpful
>>62885601>Im going to ask anonymous people>Oh no they're anonymous
Canik and Walther are both built by Turks. The key difference is the ones in Germany get better compensation.
>>62885626So you're saying you should buy Canik to prevent Turks from having a good lifestyle in Germany? Canik seems based.
>>62885632IDGAF what gun anyone buys.
>>62885405Well, I see you came to the right conclusion. I regret selling pretty much every gun I've sold except the ones that didn't work. Unfortunately, my first gun was a piece of crap and I only regret buying it in the first place and I certainly don't miss it. If that Glock has been a good gun the entire time you've owned it, I can't see a reason to sell it.
I'm going to get some PSA Dagger frames because they are blowing them out for 50-70 dollars apiece so why not?Will the ATF kill my dog for getting like 5 of these?
>>62885700No but your White Claws may be in trouble now.
>>62885546But why? Flux is alright shooting and still allows you to mag dump from the hip. You can also theoretically shoot it like a pistol.
>>62885677I don’t regret selling guns. I sold a Remington 783, mossberg 500, sporterized mosin nagant, sig m11a1 (only gun I maybe slightly regret selling, but it was baby poop fde so that’s why I sold it). I’m trying to unload a zastava m70 .32 On my bro for $250 now and also thinking about selling my Beretta 84 because I’m not crazy about getting covered in unburnt powder that also gets in my eyes. It’s a beauty and I’m accurate with it, so might end up keeping it.
>>62885776FDE is beautiful
>>62885776https://youtu.be/Cv1RJTHf5fk?si=4K252e8WxwyeNP_W
Is a Springfield garrison a good buy? I’ve heard mixed reviews. If not a garrison what should I consider? I want a 1911, but there are a lot of options at different prices.
>>62885546Embrace pdw
>>62885811Depends on your situation. Do you want a 1911 because:Cheap gun just to say you want a 1911 (most common):>TurkshitGun you want in your carry rotation and to take to the range often (most retarded)>springfield garrison or any other 700-900 dollar 1911 from sig, colt, springfield, etc.Gun you want to perform decently well, carry it exclusively, maybe dabble in competition, and post on instagram covered in snow (retarded but fine if you're honest to yourself)>2000+ dollar 2011 like a staccatoGun you simply want because you like to spend money and look cool, never fire it, keep it in a shadow box and show it off to guests to your dinner parties,>4000+ custom guns, nighthawk or atlas or whatever those fancy 2011s that are for "competition" but never actually use themAs an aside, Kimber has a very large stranglehold on the 1911 guns that are available. They're always around 1000-1500 dollars, and half of them are actually dogshit bordering on non-functional. Just skip them entirely at this point.Modern made kimbers are fine, but their reputation is cratered so NOBODY will be impressed at your amazing looking kimber, they'll be impressed it actually works.I did my research and I'm ok with people rolling their eyes if i talk about mine. It does exactly what i want it to and was at the exact price i was willing to pay.
>>62885811In the mid range of 1911s I put it you’re paying for >place of manufacture >finish >specific features Since Tisas deliver extremely good (for the price) 1911s in the 300-400 dollar range. What the Springfield Garrison brings is a blued finish and modern features. Garrison is a good choice, beavertail safety, Novak sights, good looking. If you don’t care about place of manufacture I would recommend looking at the Tisa Enhanced Duty, it has a checkered front strap, stainless steel frame and controls and a fiber optic and blacked out rear sights in a “ledge” or “battle sight” configuration where you can use the rear sight to rack the slide one handed against a hard surface.
>>62885811Hello, freind. I am the anon who was looking for a 1911 in the last thread. I looked at the Garrison briefly, but it wasn't exactly what I was looking for. It is about the same price as the Colt, but it comes with a bunch of upgrades, including a skeletonized hammer and trigger, an extended Beavis tail and Novak style sites. It's a really nice gun and I'm looking for something a bit more basic, but if you are looking for those features it is a great value to have them already installed.I don't have any time with one, but someone in the last thread said that if it gives you trouble, you can send it back to Springfield and they will tune it for you. I'm sorry I can't help more. Good luck.
>>62885905What's wrong with carrying a 1911?
>>62884751Atomitronx (Fred Craig, guy who designed the RIA 5.0) is starting production on a new series of Merc pistols. He mentioned one will have a rotating barrel and one will be gas operated and he's doing a limited run of one with dual gas pistons. idk what form these will even take lol they're not on the website. But he says they start at $4,800 (yikes) up to $6,500 (1 large yike) and shoot flatter than a limited 2011 weighing almost twice as muchI guess that Ayy will have to go on hold>>62885267Totally subjective dude. Even to my crazy ass 17 is subjective;17 Walthers: NOT ENOUGH17 dutyslops: what a waste
>>62885945Nothing compares to the NIGHTHAWK CUSTOM PREDATOR
>>62885943>What's wrong with carrying a 1911?If we are being completely honest with ourselves here >I just like it. is the only real reason to carry one over something else and it's not an extremely compelling reason. It's serviceable, but there are smaller, lighter guns that are just as if not more effective. It's now the "wrong" choice, but it's not the best either.
>>62885943Not him but only issue would be capacity and drop safety. Most 1911s is drop safe EXCEPT if dropped muzzle straight down where the firing pin has enough inertia to penetrate a primer. 1911s carry well since they’re naturally slim since they’re single stack. 5 inch 1911s are rather long for carry since it’ll make sitting uncomfortable depending on carry position. A shorter 1911 would be more comfortable, but below 4 inches it becomes harder to get them to run right due to the cycling window being smaller or whatever.
>>62885977now=not*
>>62885234Based Caravaggio enjoyer. I recently saw some of his piecesnin person in Vienna and yes, I love my 92FS
>>62885945when did you get that star wars box set? I got the dvd box set. They even digitally added Hayden Christensen for episode VI at the end. Is Anakin's ghost at the end the OG actor?
>>62885995Whan they originally came out, I want to say 1997 98 maybe? I haven't had a VCR hooked up for a lonnnggg time but my recollection is that that change hadn't taken place yet. The Special Editions were still in flux at the time, I recall Greedo's scene being altered several times and the ROTJ end music changing a couple times and other changes afterwardI have the final pre-Special versions on VHS somewhere but I can't find em...Anyway yeah that's the second most jarring change. Like why would Luke see someone he's never seen? He saw an old man die. Wouldn't he be like "who the fuck are you?" Obiwan doesn't look like Ewan McGregor. Yoda doesn't look like Grogu. Luke himself doesn't look like the mophaired moisture farmer.
>>62885945Shit I got that exact VHS set somewhere but doubt its in good condition.I also got a DVD version later that fucked up Vader's helmet/facemask and its too fucking narrow. Thanks for reminding me.
>>62885729>But why?Because I have autism
Kings, I'm looking for a budget light for my budget pistol. I really like what I have but I would like it even more if it was the exact same thing with an exterior opening for a USB cable. I've found something that I believe is the same length ( I don't want it to protrude past the frame ) and has an opening for charging but it's probably gonna be wider. Do you guys have any suggestions ? Also looking for something for 92A1 but I'm going for this pistol first.
>its been 11 months since I ordered my Single Action ArmyItalians really be lazy as fuck
>>62886193Streamlight TLR7X has USB recharging, perhaps it’s just a rechargeable battery you have to remove to charge
>>62884221Is this considered SBR?
>>62886223No. You would have to attach a butt stock to it.
>>62886226>buttHeehee hee, butt.
>>62886200Interesting but looks like something more for a compact pistol. I was hoping to get something that is roughly 80mm.Still gonna keep it in mind though, thanks.
>>62886140Very well. Carry on, king.
>>62885825Unfathomably BASED
>>62886320Inb4 the canik cuck chimes to blindly claim the turkshit clones are better than a real Benelli
>>62886193Do you have a dollar amount in mind? For about $150 you can get a TLR-1s I know it's not going to set someone's clothes on fire, but it's tough and pretty damn bright. I also know that's kind of a lot, but /hg/ would buly me into the ground for recommending O Lite or similar. https://www.opticsplanet.com/streamlight-tlr-1s-reg-with-strobe.html
>>62886222Finally, someone with taste. So, I see a gas pedal take down lever, custom trigger, and bade plate and after market sites.QRD on the build base Sigger. Personally I find it difficult to find areas that need improvement on them, but I'm interested to know what you did, why and how much of a difference it actually made. I see it's a DAK which isn't my thing, but I'd be interested to know why you went with that trigger system.
>>62884707>>62884588It’s funny because I wouldn’t be shitposting with Chinese cartoon doges if you hadn’t kept calling me a troon.I’ve dropped by ARG and since they haven’t sperged about me other than the spamming my pics that one time I’ve behaved there. You should be less /homogay/ and more normal like /arg/.
>>62886395Not really, I was hoping to stay under 60 euros. I'm talking about serious budget shit, but to be fair, maybe I just accept twisting the lens off and recharging the c123. I just have a cheap handheld flashlight that came with a usb cable and it kinda spoiled me.
>>62886418The rechargeable TLR-7 uses a standard rechargeable 123 battery and taking the front off actually beats taking the whole thing off as far as I'm concerned. I actually like that light a lot.>>62886417As long as you compete for attention with the PX4 faggot, you will never know a moments peace PPfren.
>>62886417holy shit shut up
>>62886417You were posting those faggot cartoons before people started calling you a troon. You were always obnoxious. That's why everyone moved from trying to help you to just hating you universally. You are just a shit person.
>>62886417Faggot
Report the freak and move on. Replying to it invites more chaos. Which is what it wants
>>62886502It also invites yourself to be banned for offtopic replying to it, happened to me a few times
>>62886448I was low key about it till everyone went hysteric and mostly just posted cheems>>62886453Sneed
All you have to do is follow the goddamn sign /hg/!
>No guys he's on topic most of the time he's not cancer!
>>62886411I bought it as a good condition LE trade in. At first I was going to convert it to DA/SA, but my previous carry guns were striker fire so I like the consistent pull of the DAK trigger. The flat trigger was intended to reduce the trigger pull by adding more leverage being farther forward. I had to have it hand fitted as it didn't drop in. The mainspring cup is titanium, the spring guide rod is stainless. The locking block and barrel feed ramps were polished. It's a great carry gun and I already want another project P220, probably a DA/SA next time and get a hand fitted match barrel with intent on use as a target gun. Probably getting an RMR cut on the next one too.
I like revolvers more than auto loaders
>>62886618I’m sorry.
>>62886618Ok grandpa.
>>62886633>>62886637It's a comfy firearm
>>62886648Whatever you say Pops.
>>62886502His last two posts admit he intentionally and specifically trolls the general out of spite. Once he’s banned for trolling every post made from from now on can be reported for ban evasion. Jannies do your fucking job.
>>62886652You'll understand one day, son.
>>62885825>the pistol brace off the railthats fuckin great and stupid at the same time
>>62886653He shares a bit in common with the other people who shit up this general just to spite it. Its incredible how rent free we live in so many people's heads.
>>62885921>Tisa Enhanced DutyDamn, that one looks nice. I've been skeptical of turkshit before and I'm happy with my TRP but that has pretty much every feature I'd want on a railless 'tactical' 1911. At this point Tisas is probably going to wipe out the entire low-end and entry-level 1911 market.
>>62885776>and also thinking about selling my Beretta 84 because I’m not crazy about getting covered in unburnt powder that also gets in my eyesI am interested.
>>62886720They won’t, people buy 1911s because of patriotism since it’s an undoubtedly American firearm. Iconic. So there’s this major “it has to be made in America” thought to it. I was pretty close to calling Wilson Combat and Nighthawk to see where do they get their steel or at least who do they source slides from to find out if the steel used is American.
>>62886756Well they could just start a new brand with a sufficiently legacy brand-sounding name and continue importing that way. Rock Islands are made in the Philippines after all and Springfields were either fully made in Brazil or imported the forgings and then finished them here until the mid 2010s.
>>62886774>your face when Tisas buy Colt after CZ sells the brand in a corporate bankruptcy
>>62885464Sometimes here. Sometimes lurking. Always...baby >>62885945>Not in at least 45 or 10>Dual gas pistons, rotating barrel, low bore axis, 38 oz all just to shoot 9mm. Tell Mr. Fred atomic that he better market these heavy to competition shooters because I (anonymous) will not be purchasing one.
The Sig P220 10mm, does anyone here have one? I was doing research and I have saw a few P220s that broke the takedown lever and one that the decocking lever broke. I looked into it more and the takedown lever is made in India along with a few other MIM parts. Have you had any issues out of yours? Is it foolish to think parts will still be available in 10-20 years since some parts are different from the more common 45 ACP variant? Also is the finish/coating on it durable? I wish it was not coated with anything, I think stainless looks great. It's the only all steel 10mm besides Dan Wesson or Tangfolio I have saw in current production. Do you guys think this is a poor purchase?
>>62886788Ah yes I too like as much recoil as possible. For me it's more enjoyable the more recoil there is without also benefiting from the additional muzzle energy of larger calibers. Yessir I'd like to design a .22 with a compound pulley system and electric motor that increases its recoil to .45 levels and agitates the gun substantially while maintaining the same bullet weight and velocity. More recoil, more muzzle movement, more disruption, that's the key to a good shooting gun as well as enjoyment and success in shooting. I can't fathom why anyone would desire less recoil per caliber. CRAZIES!
>>6288682610mm specialist anon has one, he no longer posts in here because of the trolling, he likes it. I think he’s only 800-1000 rounds into it but for a 10mm that’s a decent amount
>>62886826None of the parts are necessarily made in india. All the small parts are made in a number of countries, including india, but most parts are made in the US. It's impossible to know which ones are made where in an assembled gun because they're not marked like aftermarket baggies are.Also I find it hard to believe a decocking lever broke, how did that happen? That's an extremely low stress part that's made from stamped sheet metal which is not typically a manufacturing process sent out to india (not that it can't be). Despite this I think as long as you don't overpay it can be a good buy.And yeah there's at least one among the regulars maybe 2. They didn't respond last time though
>>62886840Kek sign me up
>>62886840Burt. I specifically only shoot Winchester Service Grade because it has more recoil. It has more recoil than the JHPs I carry.
>>62886826Unless you love the looks idk why you'd buy a single stack that isn't a 1911. Bonus for the 1911 is you'll be able to get parts for centuries. Also don't support Cohen but that's just my opinion.
>>62886891And if you could push a button that would halve its recoil you would. I know you would because you bought compsHomeboy is pretending like less recoil isn't universally good and preferred lol>.45 with the recoil of a 9mm: :O>9mm with a recoil reducing mechanism: >:(((
oh shit
>>62884853>more surface area for coolingThis is only true if there’s airflow.
>>62886653You keep getting banned for backseat modding and then evade…
gj fatboy, this is what you get for defending the daniel h9
>>62886908>Trying to rationalize the thinking of someone with a literal box of PX4s
>>62886826I only had the .45 variant but I wasn't really a fan.>Also is the finish/coating on it durable? I wish it was not coated with anything,It's cerakote and because it's all over the rails (at least on mine, Sig is inconsistent about cerakoting the frame rails on their guns that have them) it basically had a break-in period on mine and had some failures to return to battery. I wish they'd just tried to get their PVD right instead of just deciding 'fuck it' and going for cerakote.>I think stainless looks great.They did use to do stainless elite guns, you might still be able to find one but they won't be cheap.
>>62884221hows the Calico 22? Anyone have the 9mm? Kinda want
>>62886930Fatboy mccfloofer >>62886908I associate too little recoil with failure to cycle and now try to get hotter ammo. Especially for heavy 380 blowbacks
>>62884693What optic?
>>62886908I bought comps to see if they work. I do not use them on any of my guns and I don’t bring my comped 92 to the range. Also on that note, it’s enjoyable and thought provoking to try to tame higher recoil through skill/comps/spring systems/inate firearm design versus buying pipsqueak baby loads. I brought my Sentinel .45 to the range the other day, the huge muzzle flash brings a smile to my face. >.45 with the recoil of a 9mm: :O>9mm with a recoil reducing mechanism: >:(((Yes. One of the “bad” things about 10mm or .45 is their recoil and slower follow up shots. If you could tame that recoil then those rounds would be more practical. If you made 9mm easier to shoot, you don’t get that much more out of it. Like if you had a super easy to shoot 9mm, training with it is just poking perfect holes in paper, it’ll hide issues with your shooting technique. You need to shoot it versus other guns, shoot higher recoil ammunition to see what you’re really doing. If you handed an open gun to a new shooter, they wouldn’t even be able to use it to 1/4 of its potential. I think having a super low recoil gun in your arsenal is important for training, so you can train the other parts of shooting at speed while having to fight less muzzle flip vs your duty style pistol. I just don’t see the point in a super duper recoil reducing system in a caliber you can just buy super lightly loaded ammo in.
What is the most AESTHETIC Glock trigger shoe?
Is a modern kimber commander length a garbage unreliable piece? Price is right and it looks the way I want my 1911 to look.
i enjoy dvds
>>62887113Kimber has a reputation so bad it’ll never be shook off even if they made good guns, so no one really knows. Apparently the pro shop pistols are better and made in a completely different place.
>>62887142Post a wheelgat with your copy of Ram Ranch
>>62886618I understand why some people prefer them but semi autos are just far more useful
>>62887142I just stick to blu ray because they're more durable
>>62886960It's vey strange, but fun to shoot. I don't have a 9mm, but I'd love to have one some day.>>62887142Very nice anon.
Reviews are coming in on the RIA Melik, the Turk M9 clone. Apparently it's a straight up 1:1 copy and it's pretty good.It's over, Berettabros. The Turks claimed another American icon.
>>62887214Is your 22 threaded? Did you get it direct from them?Looking at website. Doesn't mention it for the pistol. but the extra 9mm accessories page has the muzzle in two different thread pitches.
Holy shit no wonder you nerds never shut up about guns. This hobby is fun as fuck.
>>62887250No, it's not threaded. And I bought it secondhand. Mine is pretty old and abused.
>>62887303I find handguns the most engaging to shoot since they're the hardest to shoot. Also because shooting trap or long distance shooting isn't easy in my area.
>>62887315nta but bro rifle go BOOM!
Thinking of getting a P30 as my first H&K.Is the hype real or is H&K like the Supreme of guns and I'm paying for brandname prestige and mediocrity? My only H&K experience is with the VP9 which is OK and the USP which I thought was kinda shitty and dated.
>>62887335I’ve owned a P30, USP, and HK45CT. I now own zero of them because they just weren’t that nice to shoot compared to a 1911 or Beretta 92.
>>62887335>Is the hype real or is H&K like the Supreme of guns and I'm paying for brandname prestige and mediocrity?Yes and no. The P30 is a very reliable firearm, but everything other than that is meh. I think the ergos might be good, it has a nice decocker location, but if you were looking for a good trigger out of the box then you bought the wrong gun. Apparently the trigger gets better over time, or that's a cope. They used to be super cheap until John Wick used one in John Wick 1. >first HKmeans that you have other guns, if you have other handguns then the P30 might not measure up as good.https://youtu.be/PDrZ155hXuY
>>62887360>>62887368This is disappointing but it will save me money.
>>62887335What hype? lol HK gets dunked on almost nonstop in /hg/. It's extremely overrated dutyslop with an insultingly high price borne only by diehard fanboys and vidiotsThey're perfectly usable duty grade guns, at a 140-220% markup.
>think about cajunizing a 75>watch video>30 minutes about tiny fiddly shit inside the sear cageit's not fucking worth it, is it bros
>>62887375Just pay your local gungoober $50 to do it for you
>>62887335the p30 is EXTREMELY mediocreyou wont be impressed by ANYTHING on the pistol. I've had two and they both sucked. They're not high quality nice, they dont look cool, they dont have any neat features, they dont come in optics cuts, they dont have good aftermarket, etc.However, the p30 is probably the best HK gun to get if you're a carryfag.The hk45? Nobody will believe you that its a real gun or care. I used to own an hk45c but gave it to my dad when he moved to a 10 round state.The USP? Wow bro you're shooting zombies and die harding and evangelioning with collateral so hard with this gun bro its so awesome, good luck putting it in your pants to go to the store, fuck you. Anything else? the p2000? Literally who? Thats not a real gun shut up. The MK23? you obvious dont carry your wallet since its literally empty.and the VP9 is >striker fired so its opinion is invalid
>>62887377>trusting the local gunsmifnever ever, anon>>62887374ok i agree on the handguns but you leave the mp5 out of this
>>62887375The sear cage is a nightmare yes, and so are the hammer pins. It's not as plug and play as a Langstein Trigger Con in a Sack but it DOES make quite a noticeable difference to the gross CZ factory trigger. I opted not to get the whole kit but I think I went too far with the short reset kit which did almost nothing. The $88 hammer made a yuge difference though and a $10 hammer spring is a no brainer improvement. As mentioned I don't have the whole kit but from what I feel out of the hammer, spring and reset kit I think it's massive diminishing returns after the hammer and spring.>>62887377lol Nobody would do that and why would you trust some melanoma'd boomer smoking on a stool with your gun for $50. They charge more than that to hammer in sights now (those marks were there before you gave it to me)
>>62887383>>The hk45? Nobody will believe you that its a real gun or care. I used to own an hk45c but gave it to my dad when he moved to a 10 round state.>The USP? Wow bro you're shooting zombies and die harding and evangelioning with collateral so hard with this gun bro its so awesome, good luck putting it in your pants to go to the store, fuck you. >Anything else? the p2000? Literally who? Thats not a real gun shut up. The MK23? you obvious dont carry your wallet since its literally empty.This is a top tier post anon.
>>62887395But there again they get dunked on. Like most of their guns it was relevant (and overpriced) when designed but now it's WAY overpriced. The roach copies are now Just As Good™ but at 1/3 the price. Anon here has an SP5 where the bolt carrier rubs so hard on the shell defjector it causes him malfunctions. I think he sent it back to HK for fix
>>62887396interesting. can the hammer be replaced without removing and fucking with the sear cage?
>>62887377>$50former paid goober, id never do a cajun kit for $50, try 150, anybody who charges 50 is going to do a piss poor job or reject it once they realize how painful it is
>>62887425I believe so, it's been awhile since I did one. The hammer pins on the two I did were excruciatingly difficult to swap from the factory hammer to the CGW hammer though, I advise buying hammer pins and a strut from CGW. I was pounding those tiny pins SO HARD my workbench was bouncing things onto the floor. WAY too tight, on the verge of bending the hammer (maybe it even did)
>>62887395>>62887424Even Zenith's clones are coming down significantly and are Just As Good™.Thank god I got my HKs for dirt cheap over a decade ago when the used market prices were still fairly reasonable.
>>62887424what you failed to notice BURT is that >>62887395 is a ptr which was made in AMERICAhk still deserves some credit for the design though. americans just did it better (many such cases)
>>62887482>hk still deserves some credit for the design though. americans just did it better (many such cases)CC9sisters? Are we back?
>>62887482>PTRwelded rail though.
>>62887287Why didn't he do this for the tactical? Is the USP really not meant to be suppressed bros
>>62887499>muh purity>muh clone correctnessptr makes a model for autists who care about such things, i personally don't
>>62887383>The hk45? Nobody will believe you that its a real gun or care.The HK45 always annoys me because HK is all about 'no compromise' and they very clearly compromised on the magazine capacity in favor of the ergos there.
>>62887383>you obvious dont carry your walletWow, imagine being poor...
>>62887482>american HK copies>good
Best first group from my recently acquired Five-seveN at 10 yards. I'm kinda shit at handguns, but trying to git gud.
do you guys think we'll ever see another paradigm shift in handgun calibers like .45 to .40 to 9mmor is the meta just going to stay at 9mm forever
>>62887625that's decent enough, you're grouping which means you're doing something right. you're on the path to gitting gud
>>62887576I felt that pic like you wouldn't believe. Our Snap-On T-20 bits have been warping within 100 torque repetitions, so they replaced them with shitass Bluepoint bits, and now they break off within 50.
>>62887156I got the impression the pro shop ones are nicer as well. Younger folks working at my lgs (that i trust a great deal) were adamant that Kimbers got returned more often than any other 1911 and had a history of problems like rust and malfunctions on new guns. they decided not to be a master dealer after enough bullshit from the company. Then at sportsmans warehouse the boomer at the counter told me he personally owned 40 kimber pistols and sold them at the store all the time and got visibly unnerved and ticked off when I started asking questions about the reliability. Online forums seem to suggest that old kimbers were fine, and post covid ones are 50/50 on whether or not the gun is a lemon out of the box. Apparently kimber makes more production 1911s than any other company, so I wonder if the reputation has something to do with there just being more of them out there.I must admit that aesthetics play a big role in what I want to buy, but reliability is a non negotiable for me in this purchase. I don't like the looks of the turkish guns, springfields, or RIA. I'm not a fan of the big 'DESERT EAGLE' on the slide of the magnum research. Kimber just looks right to me aesthetically. Anyone here bought one in the last year or so that can chime in with your experience? Would you ever carry one? I'd like to spend less than $1200.
>>62886840I’d pay for a .22 with the recoil of a 9 just to practice recoil control cheaper
>>62887112All comes down to personal preference I like the killer innovations shoe
>>62884351>that dudeLol post the webm or sauce pls
>>62887795Well shit
>>62886541>>62886448You know what. I’m sorry and actually want to make up with hg. I’ll focus on guns more. I ultimately want to get more straight acting, continue getting fit and get to a point where a recruiter wouldn’t laugh me out. I’m not proud of my past weakness.Have a handgun and rifle reloading boom full of tables as an apology https://files.catbox.moe/3smrvy.epubAnyone with 44sp, 38sw, 32 mag will probably need this
>>62887631meta's shifting to .380, amigo
>>62887859No it isn't.. 380 is only slightly less recoiling than 9mm but far less effective and versatile. And it's more expensive.If they can un-shit .22 mag or make 5.7 half the price and effective out of 4 inch barrels, that is the future.
>>6288763130 SUPER CARRY BROS WE ARE SO FUCKING BACKTHE METER WENT FROM "ITS SO OVER" ALL THE WAY AROUND TO "WE ARE SO BACK" I PROMISE
>>62887859>.380 for carry
>>62885945>>62886096Han shot first. It was cold-blooded murder. Everything else is a lie, was always a lie.
>>62887867>>62887884Laugh all you want, but modern loads have lessened the gap considerably between 9mm and .380 to the point where you're easily hitting the FBI's requirements with most premium defensive .380 rounds. If I can get that in a lighter and more compact form factor with the same capacity as 9mm, I'm all for it
>>62887884carry what you want but don't be a metafag. Goes for you too dumbass>>62887859
>>62887890At some point shit is too small.I groped the Bodymeme 2.0 and it was too small. I didn't even shoot it. Just touching it was enough. Shield Plus is better because you can get a grip on it without being gay or a woman.
>>62887900>didn't even shoot itinto the trash your post goes
>>62887885Not murder, self defense. Greedo had him at gun point and made it clear he wasn't there for a social call.
>>62887859>>62887890>Laugh all you want, but modern loads have lessened the gap considerably between 9mm and .380 to the point where you're easily hitting the FBI's requirements with most premium defensive .380 rounds.lolno you aren't.
>>62887906I thought my glock 43 was too small and on saturday I went with my half brother and his family to help them and their kids learn to shoot. During the whole thing I just thought to shoot it for the first time and surprisingly it was very soft and accurate. Also felt really proud helping my half sisters son who has adhd and see him do better than everybody else in the group.
>>62887926This ammo gets 30 inches in an LCP
>troon retard shitposter is the one saying .380 is justasgood as 9mmI'm so tired
>>6288797730 inches because it’s not expanding any and therefore almost worthlessI will tank however many of those fit jn your mag and still take that virgin bussy
>>6288797730 inches is the exact fucking opposite of FBI standards
>>62887890>you're easily hitting the FBI's requirements with most premium defensive .380 rounds.gtfo, most .380 defensive loads either under-penetrate and expand well or over-penetrate and not expand for shit. .380 auto is a compromise and a shit one at that when micro-9s and subcompacts chambered in 9mm exist.
Got the brass backstrap on the PX4, gun feels a little more balanced but it's not that heavy. It's not retained with that stupid spring anymore, it uses a roll pin like god intended. Might get the gayguns trigger even though I dislike that boomer. I'll definitely be getting it circumsized for an optic by our favorite rabbi next year.I realize this gun looks even more dysgenic now. I'm sure all the gay people ITT can appreciate this ugly duckling like they do you know who.
>>62888026Perfection. Is it more aggressive/grippy than the stock backstrap?
>>62887631Canadian here, this photo makes me kek. Americans really are great sometimes:>3,000 calories of deep fried garbage>2 cups of ranch dressing for no apparent reason>but please give me the Diet Coca Cola
>>62888026I really wish the gaygunz trigger didn't look so stupid.I really wish Beretta just sold an OEM metal trigger.
>>62888041Can you go be a noguns somewhere else? Mayhaps in your containment thread?
>>62888041Canadians have poutine, a fucking basket of fries drenched in brown gravy mixed in with cheese curds
>>62888052why don't you tongue my anus burger boy
>>62888058Yeah and we wouldn't pair it with a diet soda either, we'd wash it down with a FULL FLAVOUR 140 CALORIE CAN OF COCA-COLA ORIGINAL. I think you missed the point of the original post.
>>62887885Maclunkey>>62888026Is that TWO RECOIL REDUCING DEVICES? lol get a load of this pansy who can't even take 9mm recoilI wanna try one of those weights but I JUST replaced my rainbow grip and I don't want to cut it up:(
>>62888069why does this gun exist
>>62888041>2 cups of ranch dressing for no apparent reason>no apparent reasonChicken strips and fries are merely shovels with which you can transport ranch into your mouth.
>>62888036I couldn't really say because I put talon grips on mine. Let me see if I can fish out the other OEM ones. It at least feels grippy enough to not need talon grip tape on it.>>62888042Same dude same. Well apparently they did but it broke a bunch and they just were too lazy to fix it I guess. Probably because they hate this gun and refreshing the lineup is some sort of a sick joke they had.>>62888069What's all this about recoil? If you cut it you won't really see the lines, it's not that bad. If I was really motivated I could transfer the tape over, I might do that eventually.
>>62888084>Chicken strips and fries are merely shovels with which you can transport ranch into your mouth.See this is why I come here, I enjoy learning about the vast depths of American culture - including cuisine. At no point did it ever cross my mind to dip fried potatoes or breaded chicken into RANCH DRESSING. I assume it was for a salad off-screen.
>>62888077Weird guns matter!You literally want to exterminate weird guns!Protect weird guns!>>62888085Some guy implied earlier that less recoil out of a 9mm isn't a worthy desireI messed with my old Talon grip on the PX4 when I was frigging with hammer springs and it lost a lot of its sticky the first time I peeled it off. Maybe I'll get another oneEhhh
>>628876319mm is gonna be the peak for a long time until massive leaps are made in ammo/handgun tech. 9mm as it stands is the best "bang for your buck" with minimal recoil, good capacity, and acceptable wounding capability. It's also rooted in the firearms industry like the Tree of Yggdrasil, so it's going to take something absolutely incredible in the world of handguns to dethrone it.Within the 21st century, I expect a SCHV round similar to 5.7x28 to overtake it, but it's going to be in a gun vastly different from the current polymer framed striker fired pistols we have now. It'll need some kind of recoil mitigation tech when you're throwing a ~45gr bullet at ~2600 fps, because that's what it's going to take to finally ditch 9mm.
>>62888085see >>62886840>>62886891>>62886908then me rationalizing why I don't want to spend 6k on a low recoil gas operated 9mm gizmo that'll probably not work >>62887097
>>62888105I guess maybe I do want to exterminate things that are abnormal. That gun should be like $900 though.
>>62888119They originally were $900 (for the non-optic model), the list price of the new E models is frigging reduckulousAnyway it's just a novel way to do things that other guns do. Recoil impulse is different Ergos are different
>>62888036>>62888085Hard to definitively judge how they compare. The lokgrip texture gets more aggressive closer to the spine, which does feel slightly more grippy but the sides almost not as much. However, there is texture on basically the entire lokgrip where the OEM one is slippery on a decent chunk of area. I'd say it feels slightly more grippy but that's pretty subjective.>>62888105Interesting. 9mm is pretty easy to control but the less work you have to do the better.You don't need to peel it. Use a razor. Start with the seam at the bottom then work the blade up the gap little by little on each side. Once you cut an inch up it becomes easy to get to the top seam. Then peel one of the backstrap texture leafs back to find the top seam and cut, then it will come off. Also the trick to fix the peeling is to use a heat gun.>>62888113Oh. That's different than what he said. Training with pissin hots is nice sometimes. Most of my range toys are comped or heavy so it doesn't really matter that much. It's fun having it be way louder and not much more recoil on my Staccato. On my lower mitigation guns and carry it's good for training what self defense ammo will really shoot like. My carry is ported though because I'd choose no recoil if it were possible.
>>62888135Have you shot the ported Scatt and ported Mimfield recently enough to compare comp effectiveness?
>>62888154No, but the Staccato is pretty effective and it's a bigger gun. I've been meaning to shoot the prodigy though.
Some guns use dimples instead of serrations on the slide. Is that actually effective?
>>62888154I saw one of the ported Prodigies in an LGS yesterday going for almost 1.3K new and was highly tempted. Really the only thing keeping me back is the cerakote, I can live with MIM but I would much rather have some kind of QPQ coating or DLC.
>>62888185No guns do that
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>>62888196Is it any good?
>>62888218do you like golf balls
>>62888191It's kind of a bummer, would have been nice to have nitrocarburizing at least (DLC is probably too much to ask at this price) but cerakote does have the benefit of being a "eh who cares" finish where you're not disappointed by a ding or wear
>>62888227I thought about buying one anyway and then just sending it off for nitriding or DLC but at that point I'm only a few hundred more away from Staccato money.
>>62888185Serrations are the optimal choice. They create the maximum amount of friction for a single direction. Since you exclusively pull the slide one way, it gives you maximum grip in 100% of uses. Any other slide texture is either a stylistic choice or an attempt to reinvent the wheel.
>>62888230I'm not even sure if that will fuck with the tolerances though. The annoying thing is it's carbon steel and not stainless so raw isn't an option either. I want to make mine two tone next year if PVD coatings are possible.I've got a sick ass build idea for my Apollo but that one will probably follow the prodigy.
>>62888230idk if you can coat anything over paint, or if you can idk if it's wise because the paint under will be softer than the new coating. You can't really remove it either, it's too tenacious for anything but sandblasting and then you're losing tolerances on all surfaces "cleaned"I think the Prodigy should be a turnkey gun. I spent a lot of EGW stuff and it was totally unnecessary. If the gun works, use it as is, not as a bed for modification, because unless the factory parts break they actually feel really good
>>62888234It looks so cool though
I took two girls to the shooting range and they were impressed with my shooting. One of them it was their first time and her first shots with a .22 glock pistol were amazing. First shot hit way too low, every follow up shot was clustering around the center area of the target she was shooting at.Other girl had some pistol experience but it was on revolvers and she was holding the glock all wrong but I corrected her grip and she did well also.Then I had both fire my Hellcat. The girl who had never shot before nearly dropped the thing on the first shot. Her grip on it was so poor and it never malfunctioned. Both of them fired about 20 or so rounds through the Hellcat with 0 malfunctions despite them not having experience on shooting such a small micro 9 and one of them having no experience at all. Was really happy about my Hellcat not malfunctioning despite the very obvious limp wristing.
>>62887998That anon isn’t me Coombrain. I just jumped in to give an example of an advanced 380 round since you asked and I collect them.>>62888009>>62888001It’s still useful since that means shooting through a windshield or being able to cripple an attacking bear.They sell expanding versions but I don’t feel like it.
>>62888310Did you have sex?
>>62888321>It’s still useful since that means shooting through a windshield or being able to cripple an attacking bear.>They sell expanding versions but I don’t feel like it.goalposts:moved
>>62888322Yes, with the girl who never shot before. The other one is her friend and is married.
>>62888323How? Someone asked for examples? It’s a futuristic barrier defeating bullet.
>>62888342that's not what FBI standards are you fucking idiot 12-18 inches of penetration through the clothes and maybe light barrier, nothing more since over 18 inches means it FAILS FBI standards
>>62888349When did I mention FBI standards?
>>62886826The guy that runs the LGS I go to has one and it sounded like he likes it but I have no idea how much he had shot it when I talked to him about it.>It's the only all steel 10mm besides Dan Wesson or Tangfolio I have saw in current productionThere are several steel 10mm 1911s. Springfield, Rock Island, Tisas, Girsan, maybe Colt and others.
>>62888349I give your mom FBI standard every night, fag
>>62888357Whatever, I don’t like being to harsh. But we were specially talking about FBI standards. 30 inches in gel is FAILURE since the penetration could then pose a risk to bystanders, if you ever watched Paul Harrell’s meat target you’re significantly into the fleece bullet stop. If there was a second meat target your probably blow through that one too. That’s not good.
>>62888361NTA, Overpen is a very minimal risk within reason. Up to 24" is acceptable before you've made a critical error in ammo selection (like using hard cast). If you assume you exit the body at the 18" equivalent, the bullet only has 6" of penetrating power left, which is non-lethal. Regular .380 FMJ hits 24" consistently, which actually makes it a pretty good option.
>>62888249I'll personally get a 4.25 model and hard chrome it, then throw on an underworld comp. These things look sexy as hell.
Oh god is PPfag trying to justify 380 because of his shitty guns again
>>62888400that thing looks like shit, im porting mine
>>62888406380 is a dogshit caliber for a main carry pistol, fine for "i need to carry something small" but there's zero point to 380 when youre carrying an out of date single stack POS, especially if youre going to be carrying dogshit rounds that have 0 expansion
>>62888439If they make a steel version it could end up being pretty sick due to the added weight.
>>62888474steel grips are available, most popular being the cheely which is my favorite, my Prodigy is an IDPA gun so I cant do steel, but could go for an aluminum
>>62888400>>62888439Why would you do either of these things when they make one with a clean, effective integral comp??
>>62888559Already have a prodigy, no need to buy a 2nd
>>62888564Sell for full used value and buy a brand new comped one for the difference you'd pay for the bolt on gimmickery
>>62888600I’m not doin the bolt on I’m porting, the difference between my used one and a new AOS COMP is greater than the porting service, and it’s a gen 1 so I’ve already swapped out a ton of shit on it from all that MIM garbage
>>62887287>You NEED an LTT HK USP in your collection.They aren't even being subtle anymore.
>>62887631Give it another high profile failed cop shooting and they'll start moving back to .45acp.>.45 will always have better aggregate terminal performance>modern .45acp pistols make the 45acp ezpz to shoot>modern pistols easily hold 15-18 rounds of .45acpWhen seconds matter .45acp will bleed em out faster.
>>62888406Every single time you see some retard prattling on about how .32 or .380 is justasgood its that retard. Just don't reply
>>62887859This bait is so low quality, yet so effective. >>62887853Thanks, I actually needed a reloading manual for 8mm and 6.5 mm Mauser.
>>62889004Then when cops get outgunned by some zoomer with a stendo and switch they'll want 9mm again for muh capacity in gunfights
>>62884351lol handsome truth has the toll payer in shambles
>>62888321>cripple an attacking bear. You really don't need much to get a black bear to fuck off and anything short of a .357 to the dome of an angry brown bear isn't going to help much.
>>62888439>looks like shit, im porting mine
>>62887631I highly doubt it because 9mm has pretty much cornered everything from full size to compact to subcompact to micro.Never mind that it is also the ammo for subguns like the SP5, Scorpion and whatever Beretta is making now.I like shooting .45 from my USP and 1911, and .38 and .357 are great to shoot (.44 is a little too nasty IMO) and eventually I'll have something in .40 S&W but at the end of the day I'm crawling back to 9mm, particularly 9mm being shot out of the 92FS family.Of course everyone is forgetting about the power behind the throne: .22LR
>>62888249>You can't really remove it eitherI have yet to see Navy Jelly fail to remove anything from metal, including rust. Even nitride coating. It's really weird because you just smear it on and wait. Then you just wash it off with water. You can't use it on aluminum or really any nonferrous metals though. Be careful with it.
>>62886840Unironically yes. If I don't need a hammer to drive the brass out of the cylinder it wasn't loaded hot enough.
Burt just can't help himself. He just HAS to gunsoom weird guns and post professional quality photos of them juxtaposed with some media and or goyslop. It is his nature! As for me, I'll continue gunsooming vunder9 doodyslops for when SHTF and we're WROL as we slide into TEOTWAWKI and I feel fine.Got a Gock tool coming today so I can install the front supressor-hight sight. This is my first time buying 'Merican manufacturing for my dot and lol, lmao even. The Trijewcon isn't even flat on the bottom, kek. It has a slight bow shape to it that results in a sliver of light towards the back and an ever so slightly small sliver towards the front. At least it has a heckin Bible versearino on it though, so baste amirite!? :V
>>62889112This did get a little tighter once I installed the sight-to-plate screws, but lul. How hard can it be to make a piece of aluminum flat, especially for $600-$800? The window is also very blue/green. Feels like I'm watching a digital movie from the 20 teens. I'll see how I like it when I shoot with it some. I'm mostly curious about the auto adjusting brightness when used in conjunction with a WML. My initial impression though is that Trijewcon is a meme brand BLOATed from US government contracts and no questions asked porkbarrel spending, whereas Chynasun is GOATed with the sauce, bussin it down sexual style.
>>62887374How diff does a Hk45 and Usp45 and Mark23 feel from each other?I've avoided buying either but bought enough cheap shit to prob buy a Mark 23 by now.
>>62889150>How hard can it be to make a piece of aluminum flatDid you put the base of the RMR on a mirror? It might be your optics plate or slide cut or even just the tension of the screws or lugs. The front of the cut doesn't appear to be in full contact with the slide in some places. Making things is hard, especially if you have to hold tight tolerances.
>interested in the finest beretto px4>go to langdon tactical>basic px4 with just the trigger job and cut is over $1600 + tax and tipIs this nigger Langdon serious? The gun is like $600.
>>62889191I didn't think to put my pistol dot on a mirror, because none of my other dots have needed such a bizarre validation prior to install. Once I got the RMR HD on and saw the light gaps, I thought about doing such a check last night, but I was pretty annoyed with the whole thing by that point and the thought of prying the dot off (it's in there very snug, even without the screws) sounded like I'd be more likely to fuck it up, so I just left it on and screwed it in. The plate and the slide cut fit perfectly, with 0 light shinning through between them. I emailed the guy who made the plate, Forward Control Designs, and he told me SROs and RMR HDs aren't always flat on the bottom and I could set it on a kitchen counter to verify this. Again though, by this point the dot was on there SNUG and I didn't want to damage it by trying to pry it off, so I just said fuck it and screwed it on at this point. He says this is purely cosmetic and nothing to worry about. I didn't know how good I had it with Ping Ping ×:
>>62889225So this is why the RMR sealing plate exists
>>62889231It's not. The sealing plate is for models that have open access to the batteries on the bottom (i.e. not SROs or RMR HDs). It's also laughable that Trijewcon doesn't include that as a part with the models that do require it.
>>62888977I do go over there and look around once in a while, this meme is dead accurate
>>62889225>He says this is purely cosmeticDoes the HD have the battery load from the top? My old style RMR has a seal on the bottom and I would be concerned it might affect that.
>>62889311Never mind...
>>62889311Correct, the SRO and RMR HD have top loaded batteries. At some point t in the 21st century the neanderthals at Trijewcon figured out that bottom loading is fucking retarded.
>>62888084Ranch is fucking disgusting.
>>62889401RETWEETTHIS IS A BLUE CHEESE HOUSEHOLD
>>62889467>blue cheese dressing
What gun and fast food combo exemplifies this image?
>>62889467>>62889476I would like to eat a buffalo wing that's been dipped in blue cheese dressing and then fondle my handguns with buffalo sauce hands.
>>62889491Bren 10 and McDonald's when it was fun.
>>62889032>He thinks its baitStop glazing the retard chaser
>>62889491S&W 1006 and chicken tenders from the Family Express gas station
>>62889600Okaaaaay...
>>62889605What is it about this gun that projects 80s sleaze so easily?
>>62889150Blue green tint makes the red dot more visible, it’s a notch filter. It’s unnoticeable when used properly
>>62888406>>62888441The guy who brought it up and said it was the new meta wasn’t me retard. He’s probably right though.I just posted modern 380 once someone brought it up>>62888441Why does 380 need to expand when it’s leaving 9mm holes as is? And I like the 1908. It’s very stable when firing but can still vanish in a pocket.
>62889753Retard
>>62889753Don't try to reason with these people. This is absolutely spot on.>>62884447
>>62889755Deal with it. It’s a steel frame rated for +p so you can pick from 9mm analogues underwood sells and the +p recoil isn’t too bad because the steel make. 1908 is honestly a very good pistol and the perfect large blowback.
>>62889798Kill yourself
>>62889849NTA but why don't you KMS yourself instead?
>>62889804Yeah, it's a nice gun in a small form factor but with enough mass to make up for the blow back systems recoil. Still, you should just get a micro 9.>>62889849>Kill yourselfThis is literally the best you can do. There is no reasonable way to refute those observations and rather than use this as an opportunity to reflect upon your own shortcomings, you lash out with a low IQ, low effort post as per usual. I would feel sorry for you if you weren't such a nasty little turd.
>>62889896Nah, you’re just a troll who wants to shit up the general. Only a hateful little loser like you would latch onto PPanon.
>>62886096I drank half a can of the oreo coke and threw up
>>62889908OK, be mad and don't work on yourself then. I noticed that stuff about the gun crowd before 4chan even existed and if it isn't self evident it should be easy enough to see once it's poined out. That is unless you are exactly the kind of person that post described. Which it's starting to look like.
>>62889915Congratulations anon, your body's natural resistance to poison is working properly.
I just purchased a new S&W handgun. I keep track of anything I buy if it has a warranty. I want to add my new gun to my warranty list but it looks like you need to register the gun with S&W to use the warranty? I don't like the idea of registering my guns.Does anyone know if I actually need to do this? And if I do, can I just do it if the gun has a problem in the future? Like 10 years from now if it has a problem can I just register it then? Or does it need to be registered soon for the warranty to cover it?
>.380 is just as good as 9mm retardation again
>>62889994Would you even believe me if I said I wasn't?
Reminder the losers that shit up this thread are absolutely obsessed with the anons here because they embarrassed themselves here and hold a grudge at people for laughing.
>>62888092>be canadian>no guns>no dipping sauceswhy live?
>You guys are bigots stuck in your ways, which is why I spend all my time posting here complainingPlease you're like a jilted ex. No we don't want you back.
>>62889999>>9mm is just as good as .45 retardation again
>>62890119never said that. they were comparing .380 to 9mm, homo simp.>can't into 4chanreddit might be more your speed, new friend.
>>62890131Try as you might, you can't gate keep this thread. Ironically, the harder you try, the worse you make it.
>>62890151>gatekeepingokay sure
>>62889999>45 is just as good as 10mm retardation again
>>62889949Sorry, might have had you mistaken for another poster who’s very aggressive “Work on yourself” while he>posts Yaoi in /hg/>doesn’t know what FBI requirements are despite using the FBI as an appeal to authority all the time >asks “why does bullets needs to expand” like as if he doesn’t understand that icepicking is not ideal >posts random offtopic bullshit all the time, I know his entire life story
>tolerate gays in your thread, even try helping them>this happens Bigotry is good, actually
>>62890151Arent you upset because people keep making fun of you? No one is gatekeeping you, you're just stupid and vindictive, a nasty combo for personal growth inhibition.
>>62890169>posts Yaoi in /hg/ Oh heeeeeeellllll no, that's not me.>doesn’t know what FBI requirements are despite using.....Also not me.>>62890172that's a lot of words to say>no u
>>62888977I fucking hate this.
>>62889981anyone have an idea on this?
>>62890162>10mm is just as good as .44 Magnum retardation again
>>62890191Who is gatekeeping you? The people laughing at your foolishness? You're self inflicting injuries bro.
>>62890191I said “he” I’m not talking about you, I’m talking about the faggot that started this all Why did you butt into this >>62890200You have to register the serial to you, if you filled out a 4473 for the gun then the serial is already associated to you but it takes extra steps. The atf knows that serial was sent to that gun store, they do a records request to that gun store asking for the serial, the gunstore will comply and give your name and contact information. Registering a warranty is no issue, they already have their methods
>.44 Magnum is just as good as .50 AE retardation again
>>62890171idk man most of you guys are gay and we ain't had that many problems. It's really just the fringe weirdos (as usual)
>>62890232Both my favorite and most disliked posters are gay
>>62890228>>62890232You're retards that keep making fools of yourselves and then try to hide behind your sodomy as a shield. No one here is complaining about you being gay, you were retarded and gay.
>>62890200Well, if you do end up sending it back to them, they will have a record of it then.Also>Eligibility for this Lifetime Service Policy requires returning the Product Registration Card within 30 days of purchase.https://www.smith-wesson.com/customer-service/warranty
Remember when this troon retard spent over a year saying how his shit ass 200 year old guns were just as good, if not BETTER, than modern CC handguns, then it turned out he can't fire his revolver because of its shitty metallurgy and can't carry his 1908 because it isn't drop safe? Then he got some other stupid piece of shit that stovepiped every other round after he spent months glazing it.Yet this dumb nigger keeps posting here thinking people only hate him for being gay. There's no value in the life of something like this.
>>62888482I did that with mine. I was talking about a steel version of the comp though which would add more weight but I don't think they make it. Since you're limited by weight though I'd say there's probably no need to change the grip.
>>62890262He can't even own revolvers anymore because he keeps trying to insctinctually 44% himself and the other guy lost a revolver in a forest. Clearly being trusted with a revolver is the sign of a good poster.
Uh, I don't think PPanon is ITT right now. He usually posts some kind of image that identifies himself.
>>62887884>>62888022>>62887926>>62887867You guys are acting like there's only a single loading of .380 and 9mm. There are some .380 loadings that perform better 9mm loadings. However, the best 9mm loadings will outperform ALL .380 loadings even the best .380 loadings.The point here is there is nuance. You can select a .380 loading that performs better than many 9mm loadings, about as good as an average "acceptable for self defense" 9mm loading. This will serve you absolutely fine and let you carry something like a BG2.0 while retaining the firepower of an acceptable 9mm loading. Yes, it will be weaker than the better 9mm loadings, but it wouldn't be dishonest to say "it will perform similar to 9mm if you shoot a human with it" because it actually will do that if you selected the right loading.Pic related is one such loading.AGAIN I AM NOT SAYING .380 IS BETTER THAN 9MM OR JUST AS GOOD READ THE POST AND DON'T SKIM IT.
>>62890279That's because there's more than one retard here who has been buckbroken by passing comments. PPanon, his simps, the weed addict all are upset with us and want to constantly shit up the thread and they glaze eachother.
>>62890287>Im not saying jusasgood buuuuuuuut tl;dr can be jusasgood in cases maybeNo one benefits from your "analysis"
>>62890295
>>62890303Found one of them. Go on say the line simp.
>>62890301Did you not see the image I posted? Are you going to deny the right loading of .380 can perform at 9mm level even though it's not the BEST 9mm level?
>>62890295Weednigger is the simp
>>62890314Don't say you're not doing something then end up doing what you said you're not doing Jesus Christ anon think for once...
>>62890311IDK what you want, but arguing with trolls is the best way to get them to keep coming back. (you) denial isn't the only thing that works to get rid of them.
>>62890324Thanks for admitting you're trolling simp, we know you're butthurt and obsessed (Gosh I said your favorite word!).
>>62890287>clear gel Oh no no no look at the top of his head
>>62890334I'm not sure I'm the person you think I am and you are really exhibiting evey sign of trolling yourself.
>>62890295>>62890315>broken bucks say I'm the buckNo, you're definitely the broken buck here
>>62890353Lol, you lost your gun and now you're like an angry ex girlfriend stalking your former Boyfriend who's moved on.
>>62890353Sup, weedgineer. How is the Bulldog holding up?
There is just 1, maybe 2, chuds who are utterly captivated by PPanon and though of 2 males having sexual intercourse together. He/they are probably incels, so the idea of sex holds extra captivating wonder to them. Their hate boner probably sneaks into their mind during their daily masterbation sessions and they probably fear the ramifications of this. They take out their seething insecurity and virgin rage on this general. Top fucking KEK!
>>62890369Weed addict lmao
>Weed addict returns at the end of the general, totally not here all the time guys!
>>62890369Buck broken onG frfr>>62890367It's way smoother since i tore it down, cleaned it, and oiled it with silicone oil
>>62890383It's the middle of the day, why is the gen ending now?>lost my gunYou're not a real adventurer unless this happens to you at least once
>>62890406If you didn't smoke weed and lose guns all the time you'd understand how 4chan threads work, lmao
>>62890262I shoot the PP all the time and firelapped it recently Also the 1908 was fixed within a month by warranty at their expense and it’s been perfect since.It needs hotter 380 to ensure good cycling because the heavy slide but this is a good thing. It means it can handle +p.
>>62890391>It's way smoother since i tore it down, cleaned it, and oiled it with silicone oilThat's cool. Was it full of grit or was it dry? I hear the Charter revolvers are hard to work on. Is that true?You are quite the boogeyman, here. I get accused of being you all the time, kek. You are a legend, living eternally rent free.
>>62890409Hey now, I only lost one gun so far. And it was a tiny little 5 shot DAO snubbie. Who cares? Besides, I looted it off a dead body in the first place anyway, so you could argue I wasn't the gun's true owner. That gun's true owner is long gone to the shadow realm.
>>62890421Well, I'll be damned, he is here. What was wrong with the '08 that it needed to go back for?
>>62890449>I looted it off a dead body in the first place anywayThat's bullshit, but I believe it.
>There are now 3-4 anons here obsessed with this general because I bullied themI'm actually impressed
>>62890437The teardown was difficult, the gun had years worth of dirt and carbon, but it was working fine before. I struggled a lot with reassembly once I cleaned the shit off, but it was all worth it. Now it cycles way better because of generous lubrication. >was it difficultYes, harder than other revolvers.
>I don’t exist, I’m a boogie man>im also right here shitting up the general too
>>62890478All because we called him names lol.
>>62890475Well, that's good to hear. I think it's neat to keep old and weird guns running. Do you know how old yours is? They have been making them forever.
>>62890478>>62890491Here's a better question, does the boogeyman really exist?
>>62890495Reported your IP to the MA police
>>62890506He doesn't have to. People just have to believe he exists. In fact it's better if he doesn't.
>>62890503It's not a weird gun, it's a very common gun. Mine is probably at least 25 years old, and maybe older.
>>62890495Complain? I engineered you. Just the right amount of prodding and now you're a jester for /hg/.
>>62890514I really, REALLY hope they shoot me 20 times and get it over with. Too bad I don't live in MA anymore, I'm in NYC. Which is actually even worse.
>>62890549>Grandmaster engineerBased, I kneel
>>62890549I think you have actually created a clown army. It's pretty impressive.
>>62890581All you have to do is tickle their ego and they will spill their life story.
>>62890452US armament co got the barrel wrong or something since it didn’t go into battery and wouldn’t field strip easy and they replaced it. TBF they paid for return shipping and I got it back the next month and it’s run perfect since.You just have to use hotter rounds since the heavy slide won’t cycle with federal and lawmanI use fiocchi and Remington
>>62890449Why don’t you buy hoppes oil from Walmart?
>>62890614>it's run perfect ever since>you just need to use cope ammo or it doesn't run
No shotgun thread but the 1301 tactical is being banned from import by the ATF
>>62890623>you just need to use cope ammo or it doesn't run>1911s get a pass on this
>>62890623Isn’t being compatible with hotter ammo a plus? Why would you brag about running under loaded ammo no better than hot 32?Obviously the steel slide means you should run hot normal pressure or +p. That’s not a bad thing because it gives the colt decent power
>come back after a few threads>it’s a ppanon seethe episodeAnyway, ppanon is correct in my opinion. The difference between a sufficiently penetrating .380 and 9mm will be negligible. Two .32 or .380 fmj will outperform a single “greatest” 9mm hollow point.Most of these rounds are just hole pokers so a gun you can shoot fast and accurately with while meeting penetration standards is all you need and ppanon’s choices are fine for that.Capacity is important too, but it certainly isn’t everything.
>>62890672Yeah sorry everyone in the business of killing things uses expanding projectiles. If you use FMJ to hunt, people will call you inhumane.
>>62890706If I’m hunting with a handgun, I’m using hard cast, wide(r) diameter cartridges like .45 and 10mm.I’m also not taking any shots unless they’re close enough and in proper alignment for me to almost guarantee a well placed shot in the kill zone. Hunting is a completely different world than self defense.But, I agree that professionals are using hollow points for defense because they are better, but that doesn’t make a .32 or .380 ball any less effective, they’re just not the ideal choice. If you’re using a 100 year old gun, the “non ideal” choice is a given, but it really doesn’t matter that much in the end id the gun is reliable and you can hit where you need to hit with it.
>>62890733>But, I agree that professionals are using hollow points for defense because they are better, but that doesn’t make a .32 or .380 ball any less effective,That's exactly what it means, tranny
everyone in the business of killing things uses expanding projectiles.I am pretty sure you don't know what you are talking about.>>62890733The 1899 Hague Convention, Article 23(e)Signed byAustria-HungaryBelgiumBoliviaBrazilChileChinaDenmarkFranceGermanyGreat BritainGreeceItalyJapanMexicoNetherlandsNorwayOttoman EmpirePersiaPortugalRomaniaRussiaSerbiaSpainSwedenSwitzerlandUnited States
Show of hands, who among you hasn't ever lost a tiny little pin or screw?>being le epin trole on 4chan is not effective>get banned for trolling literally every dayIf it wasn't effective, how come you have to resort to censorship? Some other anon mentioned a backseat mod, that makes sense. It's one of the Berretafags I think.>>62890672Why are we even having this debate still? They're functionally similar, with 9mm offering slightly better performance on average.>>62890621Wal Mart is OG frfr, i know that aisle kek. Did you know not all Walmarts have it?
>>628906651911 does not get a pass on thisAnyone serious will tell you there is no real reason to carry a 1911
>>62890759People who carry duty weapons demand more versatility. Auto glass and barriers become a factor.Pure self defense is much less hampered by smaller, less versatile rounds.I personally wouldn’t even carry expanding ammo in my pea shooter. I want many deep holes in the bad guys critical areas. They will be just as dead as a 9mm.With that said I’m a believer in the good old .45 acp. Now that a round that will put a man down. Yes sir.
>>62890671>it’s on the edge of cycling with +p so that means it’s goodIf it can’t run standard pressure it’s an unreliable design
>>62890779Just another example of how unreasonable large swaths of the gun community are.
>>62890789Why can't you get get a reduced rate spring?
>>62890775I lose tiny pins so much I tend to buy 3+ of anything tiny to account for it.
>>62890768The Hague convention? What the hell are you talking about stupid boy?
>>62890804Ask pp anon thisAll my guns (except the eternal project .22 pistol) run standard and under pressure just fine
Weednigger shitting up the thread again.He always comes at the end of the thread to avoid getting jannied and shitposts by defending dogtroon.This is why we need forced IDs and absolutely nazi moderation.
>>62890808That's de only way>>62890825If your gun doesn't handle ultra nuclear rounds, then what are you even doing with your life? >expanding vs non expandingNon expanding is better for vehicular combat
>>62890768now look up who actually ratified which articles
>>62890837>defending dogtroonThat's literally a different anon, I mention that dogtroon is untermensch in every thread you actual retard. Quit acting like I'm friends with him just because we are both trolls.
>>62890844>vehicular combatretard thinks he's mad max.
>>62890815I gave you enough information to figure it out.
>>62890860#1 best use case for a gun is actually road rage, when you live in NYC
>>62890733>wide meplat projectiles at significant velocity means that .380 small meplat hard cast is good
>>62890648Wtf!!! Guess I gotta get one from LTT now. Fuck my wallet man.
>>62890869that shit was all the time this summer in Philly.
>>62890871Here’s where your confusion takes place.Everything before the “hunting is a completely different world than self defense” is purely about hunting. Everything after is purely about self defense against people. That’s how you were able to get such a retarded takeaway and even then that was a stupid interpretation.
>>62890873Gen 1 1301s were imported with 5 round cucked tubes and then LTT did their thing putting an extended tube on it and other upgrades as a package, when the 1301 tactical gen 2 was being imported there was very little reason to get the LTT 1301.
>>62890648>atf twats want to ban spaghetti shotgunswtf mang. Not even remotely interested, but wtf.
>>62889004Gee Bill, TWO 545s? Did you just get a blazing deal on one or do you have them set up significantly different or something?
>>62890768You mean expanding projectiles being fucking banned because they were worried they were too effective? Or how the U.S. Military currently uses hollow point 5.56 mk262 under the guise it’s for ballistics and not terminal ballistics
>>62890867The Hague convention outlaws hollow points in war correct?Now how does this apply to the usage of hard cast handgun ammo for hunting is what I’m trying to gather.Or did you perhaps mean it in regard to the “professionals (people in the kill business) use hollow points” statement which I agreed with in which case would oust you as a retard?I simply said .32 and .380 are fine if you can hit what needs to be hit. If you can shoot them better than 9mm they are in fact better… for DEFENSE, not a duty round which requires versatility.
>>62890897I didn’t even read your post, I vaguely assumed that you were defending him carrying hardcast .380 for self defense and how he brags about it penetrating 30 inches in gel like that’s an acceptable thing to carry. It’s very inconsiderate to the rest of the population.
>>62890967Forgot to say “I’m sorry” at the start.
>>62890974You shouldn’t apologize because I was in fact, defending his choice of gun and ammo to a degree.
>>62890912It's too late, I bought. Now I gotta find some good ammo for it.
>>62890886Good goy!>>62890960OK, first of all, I'm not reading all that. Second I was only refuting the statement >>62890706>everyone in the business of killing things uses expanding projectiles.Because a majorly of them do not. It wasn't a statement on the effectiveness of expanding ammo, which is incredibly marginal in hand guns anyway. It's mostly just to stop over penetration.
>>62890967I said it’s for car and bear defense. I run fiocchi ball ammo most of the time.I do run buffalo bore 32 hardcast but it’s literal 32 magnum SWC and that doesn’t overpenetrate and is known to bounce inside a man (which BB 32 did in gel) so I’ve done nothing wrong
>>62890974Im not defending his usage of it for car and bear defense. There are way objectively better choices.
>>62891001>marginal There is a big difference between ice picking FMJ and JHP. Difference between JHPs of duty calibers is marginal, but ask any ER or trauma physician, JHPs matter.
>troon runs ball ammo in his 100 year old .380 because it won't cycle otherwise>claims this is as good as modern micro9sThis is the faggot you guys spent 2 years trying to help
I run FMJ in all my carry guns. I can't afford to train with 2 dollar per round ammo so I just train with my FMJs then carry them for self defense.There's never been a case where a person went to prison because they overpenetrated a bad guy and killed an innocent bystander.
>>62890844Most guns will handle +p just fineThat’s a non issue with almost anything modernBeing able to handle +p isnt a flexBeing unable to cycle standard pressure is a problem in any serious gun
>>62891015Pretty sure one pellet from my LTT 1301 will be more deadly. I don't have any handguns that shoot weak ass .380 to compare.
>>62891025>There's never been a case where a person went to prison because they overpenetrated a bad guy and killed an innocent bystander.>I only care about the legal ramification, innocent bystanders can get fuckedthis is a literal sociopath.
>>62891015No, he doesn’t run ball, he runs hardcast +P buffalo bore
>>62891014>FMJ and JHPWhat's the difference between a JHP and a HP?
>>62891030It's weednigger
>>62891030You're a literal retard. The point is, FMJs penetrating bad guys and hitting bystanders almost never happens, you can probably take the last 10,000 shootings with FMJ and find less than 5 examples of a penetration hitting a bystander.And when it does happen, you don't go to prison for it. The odds of this happening are so low I'd rather just carry what I train with.
>>62891025You don’t have to train with HP every time all the time to carry it you goober
>>62891030Yeah, and the threads have been noticably worse since people started replying to him again. Just ignore the secret european and he will go away again.
>>62891048HPs don't shoot like FMJs though. There's a noticable difference.
I also carry fmj in my guns. I’m skilled enough to shoot someone in their critical spots and if a bystander happens to be there sucks to be them I guess. I will be vindicated.
>>62891041You sound poor to me. They should arrest you for just being poor, I wish that were a crime. You're already in the poverty mindset so it's too late for you. Just get some nice ammo to train with on occasion and carry it and train with FMJ like the rest of us.
>>62891033HP would be bare lead and gum up the rifling and feedramp. >>62891025More like shootings, self defense cases and court cases are not reported properly. They only report on the initial reports from police and witnesses and barely report on the actual judicial outcome. They never sit through the court case and correct the story using the facts and evidence from the investigation. No one will know if it was an over pen or a missed round that hit a bystander until a through investigation that’ll conclude after the story has left the spot light.
Garand Thumb has said on video he carries NATO spec 9mm FMJ in his carry guns and doesn't ever use HPs.
>>62891053No because he will samefag to seem like 5 people and suck off dogtroon and they form a faggof feedback loop.What we actually need is universal /pol/ style IDs and flags, which cannot be changed to a memeflag. Then we need more moderation, but I guarantee the IDs and flags would wipe out half of shitposting overnight.
>>62891056You do not have qualified immunity like a cop. It’s disgusting that you’re even meming about the death of an innocent person being “okay”.
>>62891060go find it and post it here retard.
>>62890789It runs fiocchi and Remington standard pressure fine, and gets low recoil (both are nice since they get over 1000fps and penetrate deeply). I’d rather than than not being able to run over pressure and high recoil.>>62890804It would be a downgrade. I could put a 32 spring in but then it would add frame stress and make it bad to run over pressure. I do have the spring but it’s not worth it to run shitty ammo. Weak 380 will often under penetrate anyways.I switched out the spring in my PPK for a 380. I would rather drop the recoil and make running European and +p 32 less stressful on the frame than run shitty underloaded 32 which won’t wound well enough. This way it has better wounding potential than my LCP, isn’t much bigger, but still has lower recoil and better handling.Big spring, big bullet. You need that to maximize the limited power of 380/32.
>>62891069I will be vindicated. You will be dead when your hollow points got stuck in the niggers fat deposits.
>>62891057I make 100k a year and I currently have:1 BTC20 ETH11k LINK60k cash sidelined to buy more if there's a good dip.Not blowing my money on HPs when FMJs kill people just fine and over penetration that hits an innocent bystander almost never happens.
>>62891060Garand Thumb is also a retard, cheated on his 2nd wife, lost the rest of his crew and sponsors. Don’t listen to the tapes.
>>62891036No it isn't retard, I'm 5% of the posts you think I am
>>62891055There really isn’t inside of 25 yards
>>62891083lmfao stop smoking weed
>>62891084>lost the rest of his crew and sponsors. He still has his crew they're in his latest vids>Don’t listen to the tapes.What tapes?
>>62891094I don't smoke and I don't drink either.
>>62891027>Being unable to cycle standard pressure is a problem in any serious gunRevolvers can be serious, and not just for this reason. They don't have this issue.
>>62891088This. Almost every time I post in these threads like once every few days someone calls me him when all I made was pretty reasonable fact based statements.
>>62891015No I run screw “+p” underwoods or flat nose retardAnd I say I’m a man and demand I be called one so how am I a troon? Faggot
>>62891126> And I say I’m a man and demand I be called oneThat’s exactly why lol. You clearly have gender issues, plus you told us how you get mistaken for a woman/tranny all the time. How a star bucks barista made sure to call you her/she in front of your mom.
>>62891133That’s a man bro. You are gay for liking him.
>>62891015It is very kind of you to be so concerned with his personal safety.>>62891084>Don’t listen to the tapes.What tapes?>>62891076Man, I think you are over thinking it. Handguns are all kinda shit. The most important thing is putting bullets where you want them. A few extra FPS is really pretty marginal, even if you can test and quantify it.
>>62891027Run non joke ammo and it’s okay. Fiocchi and Remington standard and anything not underloaded doesn’t have this problem.If you want to pay more for low recoil ammo use it on an LCP. Recoil is already low even with hot 380.
What's some good ammo for the new bodyguard for both training and self defense?
>>62891126>And I say I’m a manbut you don't act like one. You have no honor or respect in general. You act like a gaslighting womanly faggot. stfu retard, youre not a man.
>>62891110Kek, I also say rational things and get called weedgineer. This place is fun like that.
>>62891150I really like the Hornedy Critical Defense 90 grain FXT.
>>62891198Why do you like it? And that's for carry. What about for training?
>>62890936One for my right hand and one for my left hand.
>>62891150Oh, and for training, and I'm not joking, I like steel cased stuff because its actual the hottest ball ammo I could find. I have a bunch of Tul allo, but I think it's been rebranded as Sargent Major but it's the same stuff with a zinc case, so its actuallybetter. It's also cheap as hell, so that's cool.https://www.tulammozone.com/products/380-acp-95-gr-bjb-zinc-plated-box-50-range-friendly?variant=41170864505027
>>62891133I said I’m a man that means I have the opposite of gender issues Reeeeeeeeee!I’m even trying to get muscular so fuck off!>>62891143Idk. That Paul Harrell 32 video showed shitty underloaded tomcat safe 32 out of snub barrel barely outperforms 25.But there’s other videos showing full power 32 penetrating deeply and screw or flat nose designs fucking a target over.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eGKBTDcKbc32 feels marginal in that depending on load and gun you either get +p25 performance or solidly 32 magnum performance. So I definitely want to be on the 32 mag end since 8 shots of that is quite decent for a pocket gun.
>>62891239This looks like it’ll scratch up my gun and fiocchi and Remington get similar velocity out of my 1908
>>62891209>Why do you like it?I like it because it's loaded pretty hot and I have a high degree of confidence that it's going to work every time and from what I have seen, it seems to have reliable terminal preformance. For training ammo>>62891239
>>62891231Based and FN pilled.
>>62891249>This looks like it’ll scratch up my gunI guess if it has burs, but that's not been my experience. Have you ever seen a gunsmith polish a hammer? You can use a steel hammer on a blued gun IF it is perfectly polished.
>>62891283I think I’ll stick to fiocchi. You can sometimes get for 17 a box and it’s practically as hot
>>62891065I get banned for posting anti-Twink shit all the time, don't call me a Twink orbiter. The only thing I orbit, besides the Sun, is the Light of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
>>62891325Do that again and I’ll post a selfie where I actually do that.Faggot
>>62889078It would be cool if that worked but I haven't seen anyone say it does. Maybe for uncured spray on stuff or Duracoat?>>62889150>>62889112Oh no! Are you sure that's not the plate? LOL>>62889155I haven't shot a HK45, but the difference between the USP 45 and Mark 23 is noticeable, the 23 is maybe 20% lighter recoiling and it has a much nicer trigger (unless you put in a Match kit which closes the gap). The Mark 23 IS a very nice shooting .45 but by God it's too expensive>>62889688It's black-on-stainless which is very gaudy, but it's a mass produced chemically etched matte finish instead of polished shiny or engraved with man-hours so the cheapness/halfassedness juxtaposes with the implied ostentatiousness. Rugers, AMT Laseraims also have this vibetl;dr Hoodrich
>>62891325>Jesus wants me to bully the gays anonymously on the internet. lol wut?
>>62891339Do what? Get banned for talking about how you're cancer? You objectively are, and you're not even intentionally doing this. The difference between me and you is that I troll because i specifically want to decrease the general quality by breaking the bucks until they're invoking me 50 times per thread. You just wanna be a good member of the community, but you can't because you're too deranged.
>>62891358I'm afraid Scripture is pretty clear on this. Also, being gay is the least of that sodomite's problems.
>>62891239Hey anon thanks a bunch for this, they had 223 for as cheap as bullshit crummy reman. Glad to see tulammo lives
>>62891358>Twink gets bullied for being a homosexualThis must be that shield the others were talking about
>>62891391Ugliest gun in the thread, and it belongs to a trash weeb. Shame, anon. You're gayer than PPanon
>>62891366You’re deranged and a drug head. And the irony is I’m one of the only people cool with you
>>62891408>And the irony is I’m one of the only people cool with youexactly what a man would say. totally not a deranged troon/10.
>>62891408I'm not deranged, I'm more of a normie than the average k tard. Look at all the posts that get mistaken for mine, they're all from the point of view of a rational human being. So what if I hate the AntiChrist? Also I feel I've been really clear in that I hate tranime, which you won't stop spamming.
>>62889981>>62890200>>62890226>>62890258That says it's for the "Lifetime Service Policy" not the warranty. From what I can tell you do not have to register for the warranty. I never have, and I've called S&W for parts which they sent out no questions asked>Smith & Wesson’s Lifetime Service Policy begins after the warranty period has expired.>The Lifetime Service Policy is in addition to and not an extension of the Smith & Wesson Warranty.
>>62891354>It would be cool if that worked but I haven't seen anyone say it does. Maybe for uncured spray on stuff or Duracoat? I put some on my PPS to clean out some pitting and it removed whatever finish Walther uses. I'm telling you, that shit is hard core.
>HRT pill tranny tells a stoner that he's a drug addict
Would you rather be stuck in a room for 3 days with Burt, Weedgineer, or ppcutie?Choice is yours.
>>62891423Unironically yes. The spirit of brotherhood and all. Women would be afraid of crazy ungroomed men while I go "I like the cut of your jib" .>>62891426I won’t stop spamming it since you call me a troon. Would rather run into you on the Appalachian trail than one of the genuinely insane other posters tho.
>>62891435>BurtEats all your food and provides handgun advice>WeedgineerEither has a giant bag of weed for you both to smoke, or mistakes you for the antichrist>TwinkWon't stop showing his butthole, demanding you pin him down and rape him.
>>62891435Burt. He actually talks about guns.
>>62891430S&Ws warranty ends after a year unless you register for the lifetime service policy.
>>62891456You can and should spam anything you want. I've been clear about this: i hate the general a lot more than you. You're one of the lesser evils here. There are anons here who are actual psychos
>>62891376>I'm afraid Scripture is pretty clear on thisWhere, exactly?>>62891391>Hey anon thanks a bunch for this,No problem, I like to be helpful when I can.
>>62891483I don’t see why we can’t get along?
>>62891495I suppose we are both trolls
I'm still laughing that I may be the guy all these fuckers who keep shitting up the thread are mad about because I've shat on all of them multiple times over. To be fair we were sucking Langdon off a bit too much when I started it.
>>62891433I’m not a troon. Why are you such a faggot that you want me to be one? Literal coping homo tier thinking putting tits on something makes it not gay.
>>62891483All the named characters ITT are actually pretty cool Burt, Blue 509 anon, Laseranon, PPanom, Weedgineer, that metal shirt guy, Lune anon and all the rest. There are some genuinely unhinged individuals individuals who may or may not be any of those identifiable personalities posting anonymously. It's actually really funny to see them sperg out, but I wouldn't honestly be scared to be in the same room with some of them.
>>62891506Did you do the LTT funko pop meme?The amount of seethe that generated was hilarious.
>>62891506No dude, you're just trying to take credit. Besides, the people who initially create these trolls are even more insufferable than the trolls themselves. No one thinks your cool, except me because your admission makes you a fellow troll.
>>62891469>>62891430My bad I didn't realize the warranty was only one year! The way I read it I thought the Lifetime Service Policy was some kind of stopgap for firearms manufactured after 1989 but before their warranty was revised or something. Wow well that sucks, only a 1 year warranty unless you register for the Warranty+They must not care too much since they've sent me parts outside a year, but better safe than sorry>>62889981Yeah you do lol if you want to guarantee service after 1 year
>>62891521I don’t know laseranon and I’ve been here periodically for years. Must have just missed those threads.
>>62891495Why can't we all just hit a bong?>>62891503You sure are. That's why I like you guys.I like the Bulldog and the PPK and 1903/1908 too and you guys actually post pics of guns a lot. Thank you for your contributions to this thread.
>>62891513>putting tits on something makes it not gay.Unfortunately some things, like ivory handled revolvers, are always gay.>>62891521>I wouldn't honestly be scared to be in the same room with some of them.My offer to buy lunch for anyone that spots me and the 509c at a range stands. Would be fun to meet some of the anons here.
>>62891503
>>62891524Well you're mad at someone here, you keep saying it. PPtroon is mad at someone here, the simps are mad at someone here and I've been that someone one time or another. You guys all whine that you wouldn't post here if someone here didn't insult you and rub it in, hahahaha.
>>62891522No, that was me. Because I, too, felt like>>62891506>we were sucking Langdon off a bit too much when I started it.
>>62891545I lack ivory so pearl is all I have Maybe if an aggressive stag attacks me I can stand your ground it and take its horns and make horn grips?
>>62891540He's the guy that stops at the range on his wat to and from work and gets sicknasty groups.
>>62891539>Smith & Wesson firearms are warranted to be free from defects in material and workmanship. Any such defects of which Smith & Wesson receives written notice within ***one year*** from the date of purchase by the original owner, will be remedied by Smith & Wesson without charge within a reasonable time after such notification and delivery of the firearm as provided below....>Smith & Wesson’s Lifetime Service Policy begins after the warranty period has expired. Smith & Wesson will repair, without charge, for the lifetime of the original owner>https://www.smith-wesson.com/customer-service/warrantyHow does S&W get away with a 1 year warranty only unless you register? Every other gun company I have bought from did not require registration.
>>62891568Oh the Glock on the table at the range guy. Yeah.
>>62891574I made a high effort post about warranties right at the end of a thread a few weeks ago...
>>62891553Ok but the amount of seethe we create is far greater than the amount of seethe within us trolls. I successfully buck broke more than one anon here already.
>>62891586Still got it? Would love to read it but I'm not gonna sift through 20 threads to find it.
>>62891544Checked. If you buy a Bulldog, get a 357 though
>>62891588>all these peope live rent free in my mind>haha i showed them!
>>62891588Is it seethe or am I egging you on? I literally call people weedgineer when bored.
>>62891607No i said the opposite. The acreage I consume inside the minds of others far exceeds the acreage they consume inside my mind.>>62891610Based spellcasting summoner
>>62891615Weedgineer is literally a character this anon likes larping as, if it wasn't for me bringing up his name over and over he would have fucked off, he almost did until I revived the character for him to play with.
>>62891604Can’t you just buy a lot of 44sp on ammo seek and reload?I had thought of getting one bc blade runner but got a police positive instead. 38 sp is cheap
>>62891602Hey, look I found it pretty easy.I got my gun back from Walther yesterday. Instead of just replacing the $5 striker guide like I would have, they replace the entire $65 striker assembly, which is nice. They arranged and paid shipping and it took almost exactly a week to turn around. The best part is, I'm not even the original owner.This got me thinking what do other manufacturers offer?Walther>Lifetime of the gun>Applies to any owner>No registration>Only applies to guns made after 1993Glock>1 year>Original purchaser only>Must register with 30 daysSIG>Lifetime of the gun, suppressor or optic>Any owner>No registrationS&W>1 year Warranty then Lifetime Service Policy>Original purchaser only>Must register with 30 days for Lifetime Service Policy>Only applies to guns purchased on or after February 1, 1989Beretta>Confusing and broken website>3 year>1 year of purchase with an additional 2 years with registration>Presumably original purchaser>Must register with 30 daysThis one was pretty hard to figure out. The information is pretty sparce on the warranty page and after you select your country on the Registration page, it takes you to a Shipping and Returns page. I tried 3 different browsers (Edge, Chrome and Brave.)WTF Beretta? This is not encouraging.https://www.beretta.com/en/terms-and-conditions/manufacturer-s-warrantyCZ>5 year (1 year on wooden parts)>Original owner>Original sales receipt required>Optional>Firearms stamped with a “ʎ” symbol are not covered for cosmetic defects(denotes factory blemishes.)>Optional transferable 5 year barrel accuracy warranty with registration.Staccato>Lifetime>Original owner only>Implied registration requiredSpringfield>Lifetime>Original owner only>Registration Required (registration gets a 15% store discount for a year.)H&K>Lifetime>Must register>Transferable (complicated)>Firearms purchased after January 1, 1998
>>62891602I could find was this quote of an FN rep from a forum post.>FN has an Implied Warranty-meaning that as long as our product is not Modified or Abused, we will Service the product for Five years from the Date of Purchase.>We do not have a Warranty Card, just save your receipt.
>500+Holy shit
>>62891625If you reload, anything is cheap. It's like cooking at home or fixing your own car
>>62891615Also, I was trying to pressure pptroon into being an obnoxious fag just like you but he was taking too much time and only now that he has orbiters has his purpose of amusing me and fucking with the langdon cocksuckers been realized a bit, but like everything he's disappointing. Why settle for a gay narcissist when I can turn a mentally ill narcissist who is always online into my memetic weapon?
>>62891656Why don’t you? You seem like the reloading type to me.Once I start the gig I’ll finally get a good reloading press and equipment and start manufacturing obsolete cartridges You can make 351 wsl out of spent 223 you know
>>62891673>eternally buttmad at px4 anon and other LTT owners lol
>>62891673Sneed faggot
>>62891706>im a manlol lmfao YWNBAM faggot
I love the Beretta PX4 Storm from Langdon Tactical Technologies and getting my bussy plap plapped by big cocks!
>>62891687>>62891706Say what you will, I've already released my monster.
I unironically will not by a LTT now that they are basically funkopops.
>>62891708I have Y chromosomes snowflake
>>62891739How so? One anon made an image? Who here collects them?
What gun is the best for an unarmed security guard?
>>62891741youre still not a man. Just a pathetic numale.
NIGGERSthat is all
>>62891643They also tell you to do goofy shit like send it in every year for maintenance and to not do it yourself. The "just trust me bro" warranties are the worst.>>62891741A few too many it seems. People would hate your gay retarded ass less if you stopped feeding the trolls and trolling the thread yourself.>>62891751DUDE. I was just thinking that. So true.
>>62891751This is a Burt post
New degeneracy >>62891778>>62891778>>62891778
>>62891748I can’t be a numale when numales are bald, with weird neck beards and show the negative signs of testosterone and male aging and have zero redeeming skills.Meanwhile I’m slim, a twink in looks and none of their weird grossness, but also now have a decent amount of muscle and am a doctor and also very skilled with humanities and classics and arts, along with shooting, outdoors and gunsmithing.You’re a numale. I’m a gentleman by 1894 standards.
>>62891812you look like you have fetal alcohol syndrome lol. I'm sure gentlemen in the 1900s secretly wanted to be dog troons. You probably would have been hanged back then.
>>62891825I look like a twink. Which id rather than your basedjak look.Yeah doubt it. People were pretty gay acting back then. I could just hide being a degenerate and be appreciated for all the old fashioned virtues they liked back then.
>>62891841you look like your mother drank during your pregnancy lol. I was obviously talking about your face and not your physique dumb faggot lmfao.
>>62891852I have some native and Asian blood quanta so you’re just bitching over ethnic traits. Imagine talking about men and looks and saying you’re not a faggot. Faggot
>>62891876>homo projects his own faggotry and thinks its an insultlol lmfao. ok sure buddy. were all gay, youre totally normal lol.
>>62891882NoI don’t hide it because I’ve come to accept it. You do and do so poorly so you’re always with a weird hate boner.
>>62891909lmfao ok don't forget to take your meds with your hrt pills.
>>62891915Why do you keep saying this? It genuinely makes you seem like a closet homo who wants me to get castrated as a cope for homolustAnd I’m not castrated btw Sneed
>>62891935>faggot further projects his faggotrylol lmfao youre such a lolcow. why tf do you think of shit like that?
>>62891944You said it >>62891915 I laughed at your fetish
>>62891955youre such a stupid faggot LOL. what does hrt pills have anything to do with castrating someone? all I did was make a joke and it turns out that your deranged troon-gooned mind was the punchline lmfao.lol you creep me out faggot.
>>62891586>>62891628That post is what made me skeptical of the S&W warranty requiring registration, because on digging I found the Springfield armory not to require registration but the way it was worded it's implied. Activation is just for the 15% discount and 2 year magazine subscription lolI contacted Springfield to ask directly and they said registration not needed
>>62891980>he keeps wanking over chemical castrationYou’re talking about it again. Which honestly makes you the creep.Fitting since you talk about another guy nonstop
>>62892013I honestly didn't know hrt pills involved that. i'm not a faggot, but it it fitting that your goo gobbling ass would know LOL. w/e nigga, keep on trooning.
>>62892026Your fetish is laughable. Honestly you’re funny to deal with, angry faggot.
>>62892199>coming from the faggot who wishes the ghosts of dead men to enter himlmfao whatever you say retard
>>62892236Whatever. At least I’m inspired by virtuous men.I guess you really are the hateboner guy. Idk why you can’t chill. It’s like you want attention.
>>62892287No you aren’t. You avatarfag in hg, you’re inspired to be a humongous homosexual. They’d kill you in 1894
>>62892306Do you realize how gay men in upper class social circles were back then? I’d just say I went to a bong school or something and all bongs act like faggots.
>>62891825Is this what you want to be doing when Jesus comes back?
Ppfag, you KNOW you're a contrarian in every way possible, right?>goes through piss-old because they're piss old and won't use something modern>uses an inefficient niche loading of an even more ineffective caliber>posts pictures of herself constantly or avatarfags behind a retarded dog or some furry fagshitDo you understand why no one likes you?
>>62892761Everyone likes him or is indifferent. There are just a few of you reppers who are obsessed with him. Case in point, (you), sitting here still going on and on about him in a long dead thread.
>>62892898>how dare you insult m’lady!lol look at this fag LMFAO
>>62892898>everyone likes him lol
>>62892898You've been in these threads for how long and you think people actually like her? Absolutely delusional lmao. At best people have her filtered out completely and so don't even see her posts, and at worst they actively hate her and will shit on her at every chance they get.
>>62893092>her Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
>>62892761What’s wrong with taking care of old guns? I even repair them.>her Fuckoff Why are you referring to someone by what is not their birth sex just to be contrarian
>>62892898Wow, that is pretty bad. I just checked back to see if I missed anything. Nothing but a total psychotic breakdown lol>>62893185He's just flirting with you, PPanon. I can't imagine why anyone would dedicate so much effort to (you) farming one person. Gay crush confirmed.
>>62893274Holy shit you really are the one fag who likes her lmao. Just suck her cock on her discord or something.
>>62889029It is just as good. For small errands or grocery trips in a safe first world country, usually...
>>62893305>suck her cock>herYou’re a faggot
>>62893334>ppfreak’s main faggot simp calls others faggotNta but the fucking irony LOL
>>62893206LOL LMFAOWHAT A FAGGOT
>>62893342>>62893348You’re a cocksucker who talks about cocksucking
>>62893436lmfao you brought it up out of no where. kek what a faggot
>>62886826Yeah I like it. it didn't come with the grayguns short reset trigger like the da/sa did for some reason but I'm planning on buying one for my SAO soon. Doesn't have much recoil because of the weight, has less than my p938. Makes me feel cool when my friends and I go hiking and they have plastic guns. It isn't super practical for everyday carry though so I'm buying a p226 legion da/sa in 9mm to be practical but still cool. It's a good shooter, I'm going to put some better parts in it and a micro red dot at some point. I don't regret my purchase.
Let me guess, you need more?
gay butt sex gay butt sex gay butt sex gay bu--- eeeeer I mean I HATE PPanon !
>>62893572lmfao I wasn’t the one who brought that gay shit. Still, you’re a faggot simp LOL.
lol, you guys are still in here flirting? That's pretty cute.
>>62893555That's pretty sweet, anon. Is it all stainless? I took my all stainless P229 on a day hike today and damn, that bitch heavy, lol. I like the P226 because it's noticeably more slim, but the P229 is shorter. If you can find a REAL P228, it's as slim as the P226 and about as short at the P229. The new ones are just a non rail P229 with an insane price tag.
how does handgun general manage to out-faggot every other general here? Its not even close
>>62893706Want to rub dicks and find out? :3
