RETURN THE SLAB SUPPRESSOR editionMonthly pistol qual, fabulous prizes to be won!Printable target: https://files.catbox.moe/5ctlkk.jpgCourse of Fire: https://files.catbox.moe/u06i4z.jpgpost in the thread, attach this month's archive code "hg-qual-9-25" to help the collage maker find entriesGuide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNikPrevious: >>64339443
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>>64347726>bought the wrong targetsJust print them outhttps://targets4free.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/NRA-B-8-Target-Adapted-by-Targets4Free.pdf>muh 5-7 ringsIt's possible to score 200 / above with multiple misses, I did it twice. You aren't a worse shooter than I am– right, anon?
I hate how my gun and gun related buying can go from 0 to 60 sometimes
Oldest continuously running gun company on earth.
>>64347973I love my PX4 Compact, I let my friend shoot mine and he’s optioning out the full LTT build.
Is there any reason to not get one of these for cheap?
>>64347973Love Beretta with a passion
>>64347903On the one hand, that looks cool. On the other it looks like it weighs as much as the gun itself.
>>64347973I wanted to get into guntubing a few years ago to build up enough of a following to hopefully go to Italy and make a documentary on Beretta. But alas I am retarded and lazy, so I never did as such.
Is True Precision a good pistol barrel manufacturer?Faxxon doesnt have the barrel I want in stock.
>>64348087why do you want an aftermarket barrel?
>>64348087Aftermarket barrels are the biggest mistake. What gun is this for?
Is the Ruger LCR the best J frame alternative? Not touching new S&W revolvers with a million foot pole after reading all the shit going on there.
>>64348129You can hear bad shit about Ruger QC too if you go looking. I wouldn't disqualify Smith off the bat.
A threaded barrel for my Shield so I can put muzzle devices on at the range.S&W makes a threaded barrel themselves but it doesnt have the fancy colors or fluting.Also what's the opinion on the clear plastic Red dot SIG came out with.Probably bullshit I heard the deck was really high and I want a closed optic for my carry but I thought it could be something neat to try
>>64348006because they just arent all that great? i dont know why these are shilled on here, they go bang and are ok. nothing remarkable in a long line of 9mms. hell, im way more impressed with a bersa tpr9 than with this thing
>>64348153Burt has the clear optic
>>64348129stay the fuck away from nu-smith; especially their revolvers. somehow the bodyguard 2.0 is ok (except performance center, lol somehow shoots way left according to everyone) and the shield series is pretty solid.>>64348148i have yet to RMA a ruger thru my gunstore. some of their stuff is meh or overpriced for what you get but they got a few solid lines. eve the max-9 which can be had for like $250 or less is a decent burner 9mm
>>64348153The clear housing is just for looks. It's not like you can see through the clear bezel because it's filled with steel, it's also quite thick and as you said the deck is very high for a Shield footprint. Shield has a new optic with a clear top half that might be more what you're looking for, their intention was to make the window a more "open space," anon has oneAnyway the Romeo RS Clear is unremarkable (or actually kind of remarkably regressive for 2025) except for the low price which makes it hard to believe it's made in the US
>>64348200100% I just thought it'd look cool but as soon as I shoot suppressed it'll turn black.
>>64348200tempted to do a meme
>>64348226>plastic barrel>plastic magazine housing>bullets cast out of iceit'll look like a monster energy zero ultra when you're done
>>64348226>tfw no transparent 2011 grip
>>64348215That may genuinely be an issue then>>64348226That would be pretty rad man!
>>64348129>>64348193PansiesThe J frames and M&Ps are great
>>64348129Based knower that S&W is the literal ANTICHRIST (may Allah save me from the tranny jannies)
>>64348263>dessert warrior memeyuck
>>64348270I have a sick sense of humor
What's your favorite 1911 magazine?
>>64348279most people like chip mccormick
What years did S&W revolvers start to go to shit exactly? I'm almost thinking I might be better off hunting for an old J frame on gunbroker.
>>64348283S&W is the AntiMohammed. S&W puts Hillary Holes in their revolvers. Do YOU want your revolver to have a yeast infection? S&W allied with the transgender Federales to take your guns away. They sucked Hillary Clinton's cock while taking dildos up the ass. By purchasing an S&W product, you affirm your allegiance to Satan himself.
>>64348279Wilson ETMs, they extend the body for proper capacity for 8 .45 or 10 rounds of 9mm, you can get nice flared baseplates for grabbing them out of a mag pouch. Sometimes they’re 25 dollars on clearance You can get the discontinued (?) Vickers style ones that have no witness holes other than fully loaded to reduce dust and debris from getting into the mags
Fucking imagine purchasing a clown ass S&W when you could get a nice Charter Arms... Some people are just not okay in the head.
>>64347909>97b
Smith
>>64348333Satan&Wormwood
>>64348312>SN postingBased
>>64348365heh, now we'll be able to hack his holosunhis mainframe is compromisedgonna r0xx0r his b0xx0r
>>64348369implessive work, anon
What's your excuse?
>>64348517Eurofag and arbitrarily banned as a dangerous baby killing pocket pistolI don't like the full sized APX either though
>>64348517I don't like FDE. Don't need another subcompact either.
>>64348312It's the best 45.
Alright gang, kinda interested in nabbing a factory ported compact 9. I’m thinking between the M&P 2.0 carry comp and the shadow systems mr920p. Anyone have experience with these? Also interested in the metal-framed M&Ps if anyone has experience with them, are they worth it?
>>64348312>>64348564How is it? I debated grabbing a used one, but eventually just got an SAR K2
>>64348579Shadow systems anything is a big fat nope. Either get the M&P carry comp or do a glock with radian ramjet.
>>64348517I'm cisgender so I prefer Glock
>>64348291Is charter arms actually worth getting or are they actually shit and Anon is just memeing? I kinda want to get a pit bull and pathfinder.
>>64348601> a big fat nopeThey have reliability issues I’m assuming?
>>64348579I'd definitely go for a Carry Comp. If you don't mind the cost, I think the metal frame is worth it. You can find them for around 700 used on GB.
>>64348564>>64348600It's OKThe stretchy trigger pull of any CZ with a firing pin safety and the absolute worst barrel bushing of all time
>>64348625Many quality control issues posted all over the internet. Also why buy a glock clone in the first place when you can get the real thing with a radian ramjet for less? You can do a G19 MOS and a ramjet from optics planet with the coupon codes they're always puting out and get what is essentially the same exact thing.
>>64348628Thanks anon, do they make the metal carry comp in a compact frame? I saw one when I did I google search I thought but it was a hideous black multi cam
>>64348625Not him but so I have heardOf course you could buy used with a decent round count, that way you know it's a functional gun
>>64348656Fair point anon, I like the reliability of Glocks but I fucking hate the grip angle and ethos. Though these days I suppose you could just buy an aftermarket frame too
Does anyone know if any companies make quality replica Samurai Edge grips for a 92 compact?
>monthly pistol qual>new month>no new pistol qual
>>64348689I thought it was decided we shoot pumpkins
>>64348667>I fucking hate the grip angleCut a back strap in half, get a kiral defense back strap or just go with the Carry Comp. Shadow Systems is a meme.
>>64348689I posted it last thread, I haven’t made an infographic yet
>>64348618They're actually really good. And they don't cost much, so if you don't like it, not a huge deal-- just go bury it in Crackhead Forest somewhere. They're very affordable, they have great aftermarket, and they're just overall great. Plus Charter Arms is based and murican made
>>64348517Ive heard those suck
>>64348659Looks like they only have the compact metal frame Carry Comp in multicam. You could always cerakote/paint it; although I'm sure they'll release normal color versions of it in the near future
cat with a gat says chads prefer Charter Arms
>shart&wesson
was gonna ask about the new production S&W 36 for an easily concealable option in the summer, suppose I'll die in a hole now
Do you still own your first handgun? If yes, what parts on it would you not replace in order to not make it feel like a Ship of Theseus?
>>64348836Dried jellyfish
>>64348797>S&W 36 for an easily concealable option in the summerIt's a great gun. No doubt about that and it has a wicked detective nior vibe. Perfect for the Philip Marlow LARP, just add fedora and raincoat. It's been protecting people for decades and it's also made in the USA, so buying a new one supports American jobs, which is very cool. Plus the new ones at rated for +P if you are sadistic. Honestly, I'm questioning why I don't have one. >suppose I'll die in a hole nowKek, why?Also, what's up with the file name? I love me some Hi-Power. At least the FEG clone I had was pretty good.
>>64347998The writing is odd, and it took me a while, but it's readable. It's funny to see how close it is to modern Italian. It's also interesting how the date is in Arab numbers, while the numbers are in roman numerals.
>>64348892>Kek, why?anti S&W banter itt>Also, what's up with the file name?SA-35's have a tendency to die after 1000-1500 rounds. Can be fixed with aftermarket parts but rather unfortunate imo
>>64348263>hillary hole
>>64348971>S&W banter itt Well, there are a lot or retarded faggots ITT, so I wouldn't worry too much about the haters.>Can be fixed with aftermarket partsWhat parts?
Can a Beretta 96 in .40 be converted to 10mm?
>>64348992extractor, mine hasn't started to have issues yet on account of not shooting it much but it's pretty common
>>64349000No don't be stupid.Fucking 10mmfags god damn it. You don't even own one why are you trying to think of stupid shit.
>>64348989Who cares?Glock is honestly more shady than S&W at this point
>>64348797Better than a j frame.
>>64349000No. Magwell is not long enough or in the magazines. The frames already have trouble with .40, going hotter is retarded.
>>64349025I don't understand how something like a 96 struggles with .40 but an HK45C can handle .45 ACP just fine
>>64349042Because the 96 uses a tilting locking block action, they work completely differently.
>>64349000Glock 20 is the proper gun to shoot 10mm from. Not the only one, there are some 1911 pattern guns in 10mm that are good (not colt delta elite lmao) but the absolute disparity between Glock 20 and its imitations is stark.
>>64348010so do i. finger always on the trigger. hammer always cocked. safety always off.
>>64349065I also have that inox
>>64349065>>64349076>American BerettasWhat's next, owning a US-made Glock?
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>>64349009When did Glock ally with tranny janny Federales to get your guns taken away?
>>64349042.45 is a low pressure round, anon. .40 is much hotter.
>>64349003>extractorThat's pretty cheap to replace. It's certainly a deal compared to the FN model at 2x the price. >mine hasn't started to have issues yetThen why are you dooming? You cant let FUD rule your life. Just get an extra extractor and replace it IF it breaks. >not shooting it much It's a 9mm, shoot the piss out of it. That all steel gun should be able to take some pretty high round counts. I think you probably have a pretty good gun on your hands.You could be a lot worse off. You could have bought a P320 and tricked it out like I did before all the holster discharges.
Small question ameribros. Do you need paperwork to purchase a barrel or a slide or it's free access ? We have a notion of "essential parts" here that needs to be paperworked before purchase, want to know if it's the same in the US.
>>64349163>>64349166
>>64349163The only thing that is legally regulated is the frame/receiver. Everything else is fair game.
>>64349170>>64349175Good. Which means i can purchase some slide or barrel, get an exporter on the job, and export that shit here with my paperwork. Noice.
In /hg/ newsDon't think we have any Hawaii bros here though
>>64349163>>64349170>>64349175This is the whole reason you can "3D print" a gun in America, only one part is serialized and restricted. Typically it's a receiver, either "upper" receiver that contains bolt and accepts barrel and trigger housing with firing control mechanism (common on bolt action rifles), or lower, that contains the firing control group (like ar-15), sometimes it's the grip (like glock), or an fcg insert itself (sig guns, kel-tec). There is no rhyme or reason to it, this rule is the main source of hilarious legal issues surrounding firearms legislation in USA, and I prefer it that way.
>>64349190Oh. Some pieces of "defense technology" are regulated by ITAR so there may be some things that American vendors would not be "allowed" to sell or ship to you. I suppose an exporter would know.Sorry you have to deal with gay laws anon. I tried to get a nonserialized gun part sent from Germany once and they couldn't get the paperwork done, it was too much of a hassle for one part so they just wouldn't.
What is good .357 Magnum carry ammo? I'm looking for recommendations on grain and brand. >>64349207I used to live in Oahu. Shit sucks.
>>64349190Yeah, as I understand it, most EU countries regulate the pressure bearing components bolts/slides and barrels. I know shipping much less critical parts to the EU is very difficult or at least expensive.
>>64349220>>64349220Federal HST
>>64349220Lucky Gunner has a good comparison between brands, it’s all in clear gel so it’s not real data versus real calibrated ballistics gel but it’s good enough. We’d need barrel length and purpose to give a good recommendation but literally anything JHP will work
>>64349220>>64349207I had to go to my brother's "destination wedding" in Oahu a while back. I read that if you were to fly a handgun to Hawaii you have 72 hours to report to a police station to get your exception or pass or license or whatever, which would obviously be denied and my gun destroyed or something.I figure i wouldn't even be in hawaii for 72 hours and I would be doing the world a favor by "losing" my gun on the sand at the local elementary school or something, but it was too much planning.
>>64349256>>64349256I'm trying to decide between an SP101 Match Champion or a GP141 for my first revolver. Both would have a 4.2" barrel.
>>64349220Buffalo Bore 180g hard cast.
>>64349290What's its purpose? Range toy? Carry gun? Animal defense?
Why did federal discontinue the 38sp HST's? I still have a box or two
Are there any downsides to mounting an rmsc optic to a holosun k footprint besides lack of support from the recoil lugs? Don't really wanna spend 200+ on a holosun optic...
>>64349322They say because it didn't sell well enough. . .
>>64349308Conceal carry. I'm leaning toward the SP101 because it's a bit more concealable due to being thinner but having extra capacity is appealing
>>64348129>>64348797There's not really a single revolver manufacturer that has a perfect track record in current year. If you want a specific nu-smith model, just get it and inspect it, send it back to get fixed if it has problems. (Watch basedwood guns video on how to inspect it).
What is the biggest controversy each handgun manufacturer has had to deal with?
>>64349397Beretta was accused of cheating in the XM9 trials, after the M9 was adopted they had a second trial which the M9 also won.
>>64348618charter arms is hit or miss with their QC i have found. they can make an excellent product, and the design is solid. but maybe there is one or two guys on their assembly team who start drinking after work. ive had out of box new charters that were smooth and nice and those that were gritty (especially the cylinder release). easy fix and a bit of time, but im of opinion you shouldnt need to do that with an out of the box firearm.old charter arms are some of the better revolvers; new charter arms are not the same thing so dont get that confused. like the old interarms rossi 5 shot 3inch barrel .38spc. fucking classic and solid shooters
>>64349418>striker fired FNgross.
>>64349397>GlockEarly .40s exploding, as well as Chicagoan astronauts putting switches on them>Berettaearly M9s blowing up, locking blocks failing>HKexecutives imprisoned for illegally selling arms to Mexican narcopolice, which they then used to shoot protesting students (this was rifles, not handguns, though)>Smith and Wessonsettling for many millions with Glock for copying their patents with the Sigma, also QC hiccups>Sigthe ongoing P320 debacle>Rugerbendy Bill supporting magazine capacity restrictions, also rust>Springfieldgiving money to gun control groups in exchange for them to not explicitly go after Springfield guns>Kahrbeing run by the Unitarian church>Kimberbeing run into the ground by Ron Cohen>CZcast frames exploding>Staccatomarketing their 2011s as "duty ready" despite not being drop safe, also they used to blow up a lot when Major power factor ammo was run through them, but nobody shoots Open anymore>Waltherthe CCP sucked
>>64349000Technically yes, but its best if you leave it as a 40 or get 357 barrel if you want a blaster. The ways to get there will either produce lackluster results or entail so much bubba it isn't worth it.>>64349042There's a lot of variance in materials and manufacturing processes, treatments used, etc along with shape and how it holds up to forces. That's why you have zamak slides that can hold up to 10mm (hi point) and steel slides and frames that are soft enough to shear in half in 100 rounds.
Kimber 2K11 thumb safety is uncomfortable and it’s MIM Non EGW style as well
>>64349659OoofHammer, sear, disconnector are MIM I mean, if Ben’s went 10k rounds without an issue maybe Kimber has MIM figured out. IIRC they were one of the first companies to do it I think
>>64349680>>64349680
>>64349089Oh I didn't notice, mine is italian>>64349107They arm them
>>64349680Slide serrations suck Safety being so uncomfortable makes the gun unusable desu
>>64349065>safety always off.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47Yxa9IeJEc
>>64349659>>64349701I hate to upsell you, but the Atlas 2011 safeties were perfect for me. I know Burt didn't really like his on the Prodigy, but when I got to shoot some boomer's Artemis, the safety engagement was just *chef's kiss*.
>>64349433No you.
>>64349659>>64349680>>64349701MIM parts don't really break much anymore (other than slide stops). They're harder to set perfect engagement with, but parts breakage with good MIM parts is pretty rare now.
>>64349740>umarex .22snickering intensifies
I'm gonna rice out my Shield plus.So excited
>>64349744Prodigy MIM parts were fucked out of the gate, I think the safeties would snap. One guy received his broken >>64349734I’m meaning to get the atlas but I don’t like how wide the single side safety is. I guess I can always file it down. My trusty mauled by an angle grinder double tap safety works
>>64349089let's see your berettas, nigger.
>>64349089US Berretta is fine
>>64348050You wanna do it anon?
Why the fuck didn't I get into PPK's years ago. Meme gun that s actually great. I shot it so much better than the LCP I've carried on and off for yearsToo heavy - bullshit, carries fine iwbd/a too heavy - bs, Feels better than any J-framebut but it's a 100 year old design- so whatSuch a beautiful design just to fondle.
>>64349761I'm just waiting for my 3 other mags to arriveI've decided to get a pocket holster from Galco and a IWB from T-Rex Arms>inb4 REEE shillI actually own one as one of my G19 IWB holsters, it's actually good, pic related>>64349913PPKs are cool as a recent owner myself but I still need time with itAs for the S&W Shield Plus, I think it's GTG, but I need to do a big range trip with it to really get used to it, both with 124 and 115 grain
>>64349378Then yeah get the SP101 and don't get the 4 inch barrel or match champion. Get the 3 inch Wiley Clapp version and dry fire the shit out of it until it smooths out. I got the 4 inch version and I regret not going for either the 2 or 3 inch Wiley Clapp versions. 4 inch barrels are a meme on small frame revolvers.
>>64349913Based>>64349924>PPKs are coolYes.
>>64349913I want to get a PP in 32acp as well as a PPK. 380 is a bitch in tiny blowback guns, but 32 is nice and I already reload for it so why not. XD
Help a brother out, how do you manage to keep a stockpile of ammo if you want to shoot frequently?Do you just shoot 100 rounds per gun or something?
If you're going to get a beretta, specifically the M9 or the 92FS, is there any way to get one of the Italian made ones specific or is it just down to who you order from? Also is there any way to get at 92 with a straight dust cover that isn't used?
I always rack pistols across my body and have never managed to train myself to rack them out in front. How badly am I fucking up?
>>64349924I was going to Dremel out my OG kydex holster for the optic and threaded barrel tbqh
>>64349986M9 is 100% American made, it was part of the agreement between the US Government and Beretta.As for the 92FS, you can get Italian ones if you just try using the SKU code or if looking locally just read the rollmarks
>>64349986The US Berettas are fine.I mean it.If it matters that much to you it shouldn't be that hard to find an Italian one.
>>64349995Yeah it's so stupid that people make such a big deal out of itMy M9A1 was made in Tennessee, and my 92FS inox is Italian, and both shoot great
>>64349981If you’re struggling to afford ammo, then you need to >train with a purpose, make every round count, dryfire more and come to the range with set drills to run. >set aside money to buy in bulk, as buying ammo from SGammo or other sites is way more cost effective then buying locally or in small amounts. Free shipping over 200 dollars, one case of 9mm is 220-250 meaning it automatically is free shipping
>>64349986Beretta itself does not differentiate between slanted or straight dust cover frames, they just use whatever they have If you want a straight dust cover, buy the M9A1, it doesn’t come straighter than that
>>64349913>.380Yawn. If the PPK, 84FS and Bodyguard 2.0 were in a real cartridge, they'd be incredible.
>>64349981If you're new to fire arms, spend most of your time dryfiring while you build your stockpile. You can get way better at home in the beginning than at the range. And make sure you take classes.>>64349945I was under the impression that .357 Magnum out of a 3" barrel is vastly different than out of a 4" barrel due to ballisticsbytheinch
>>64350046I've been into firearms since late 2019, i've always been bad with ammo
>>64350012Shipping ammo fucking sucks because I'm never there to accept a package because I'm at work and I have no way to alleviate that.
I bought a pistol in 2020 and never used it. It's disassembled in my safe idek how to clean it or anything I wonder if it even works anymore
>>64350138A wife and children would help you immensely in such a scenario
>>64350143Is this your only gun? What is it?
>>64350143Tell us more
>>64350143>bought a pistol in 2020>never used itMany such cases!
>>64350168Yeah my only one. A tp9sf Bought it to feel safer but never took it to a range or anything
>>64350173https://youtu.be/YZPRaquGJoMWell I guess you're going to the range this weekend, pal
>>64350182I don't have a car and I'm too scared to actually try it out desu I could take an uber probably but it's scary. What if it doesn't work idk blows up in my hand
>>64350183Buddy if you're that scared just bring it to a gunsmith, they deal with bigger idiots anyway
I made the decision to purchase a handgun because of my neighborhood.Can I present a .pdf of my HQL License or do I need to print it out once I walk into the store? I'm also keen on hearing recommendations. Cheaper the better because I'm poor. I'm considering even going for .22 over 9mm but I'm not sure if the price decrease is worth it. Could use expert advice.Thanks.Also I looked up locations and there are three different firearm shops within walking distance of me. God I love living in America.
>>64350188BudgetWhats your budget
>>64350187gunsmith? Will they fix it?
>>64350194Well, I have about a grand left on my credit card but I'd prefer to spend maybe a quarter of that at most.I realize I'm not going to be able to get anything fancy. As long as it intimidates I'm happy.
>>64350183You don't have any friends or coworkers that wouldobe to go shooting with you? >>64350188I don't know what an HQL is but are you looking for a gun to conceal carry or to keep in your house?
>>64350208I could probably find someone idk
>>64350208>HQLHandgun Qualification License. I assume there's something similar per state or country.I'm looking to keep it in the house.While I'm at it, if someone were to trespass and threaten me from the backyard, do you need a carry permit to bring it on the outside property?
>>64350204For $250 you can get a Beretta APX A1 Carry and a few boxes of ammo. Can't really recommend anything better in that price range
>>64350197They will inspect it and also fix it, just ask.>>64350204>grand>credit cardOh boy looks like I'm not the only idiot who does it. If you're willing, just buy a Glock 19, if it means your life, buy once cry once
>>64350221Oh I forgot, that too
>>64350221Lovely. Thank you so much. I'm checking prices and that model hovers around $400 so I assume I'm buying used.>>64350224>I'm not the only idiotYeah, well... Not only am I an idiot but I'm also incredibly stupid.
>>64350238Well don't beat yourself over it, go get that APXA1 carry
>>64350188Police trade in Glock If defense and will never leave the house, mossberg maverick 88. Sub 200 dollars, 12 gauge
>>64350297APXa1 carry sucks, the carry model isn’t actually an APX. It’s the Beretta nano reskinned with APX styling. I would not get a tiny pistol like that when for a little bit more you can get a compact or full-size actual APX
>>64350219>While I'm at it, if someone were to trespass and threaten me from the backyard, do you need a carry permit to bring it on the outside property?Look up your individual states laws but im pretty sure in 50/50 states the answer is do not engage until theyre INSIDE the home unless you want to risk a charge. Also get a stevens 320 shotgun and a box of buckshot for like $130. Any gun with a stock is better for home defense than a pistol. Last patient i had who got shot with a shotgun had his hand attached with like a shred of meat, damn near took it off. Meanwhile I had a patient get shot in the heart with a 45 and live.
>>64350238>I'm checking prices and that model hovers around $400 so I assume I'm buying used.You would be wrong. Currently you can find them for $228 NEW and that's before the $50 mail-in rebatehttps://gun.deals/product/beretta-apx-a1-carry-9mm-8-round-capacity-jaxn9208a1-199-after-rebate>>64350213You already own the gun so I would go to a local indoor range and shoot at least a box or two through it. I don't know what you do for work if you don't own a car but literally just call up the nearest range and ask any questions you have. Unless they are total faggots, I'm sure they can guide you in the right direction.
>>64350046 No, the difference between a 3 and 4 inch gun chambered in 357 mag is effectively nothing. You aren't giving up anything by using a 3 inch revolver and you gain a more comfortable to carry gun. Don't get fixated on velocity or energy numbers as they really don't matter. No matter what you use, handguns are jokes and there is no magic bullet. What matters is how quickly you put your shots on target, where on the target they go, and how many times you can hit them. Practice your draw, trigger control, and accuracy and you will be fine, regardless of if you carry a 357 mag or a 22lr.
>>64350238Get a taurus g3c or gx4 carry if youre broke, glocks are not in your price point yet and you still need a holster and some boxes of ammo. Dry fire at home is free to practice, as are draws though.
>>64350219>I'm looking to keep it in the house.Oh shit, disregard the Beretta and just get a Maverick 88 like that one Anon said
Get something with a threaded barrel or compensator already on it and an optics cut.I like S&W tbqh their parts are cheap I can get a threaded barrel for my 9 right off their site.Beretta sells a .22 conversion I want but the extra threaded barrel is like $250.
>>64350188Get a Taurus TX22 compact or a Keltec P17 and as much Federal Punch 22lr as you can afford. If you are that poor, get a 22lr. It'll work so long as you keep it clean and rotate your carry ammo a bit more frequently than with centerfire. If you think you can swing a 9mm, get a Ruger Max 9, but you will not be able to afford to practice as much, which is why I recommend the 22lr.
>>64350350Beretta APXA1 tactical was like ~400 dollars and had all that with 3 20 round magazines
>>64350355Tbqh I'd just get a Shield "TACTICAL" or whatever in OD green because I like the color from a gunstore for like $500Beretta is nice too but all of their parts and aftermarket stuff is expensive AF.
>>64350343>as are drawsPractice every morning at the crack of dawn.>>64350347>shotgunDidn't even enter my mind. Not sure I can handle that.>>64350351>TaurusThat's two recommendations for Taurus. Looking like I'll go with that one.I thought a gun with the word "carry" in the name sounded suspicious when I didn't intend to carry it.
>>64350368A shotgun would be a lot easier to shoot than a handgun.
>>64350392I disagree.The only hard part if pistols is not shooting yourself on accident.In a house I'd rather have many semiauto 9mm rounds in a super compact firearm over something slow firing and larger.Unless you live in an acreage or something.
>>64349907Yeah
>>64350368Don't buy a fucking Taurus. If this is strictly for home defense, get a shotgun or a PSA AR-15>>64350396>The only hard part if pistols is not shooting yourself on accident.Nobody thinks handguns are easier to shoot than a shotgun
>>64350433I'm not sure I have the qualifications for a shotgun and I definitely can't afford a thousand dollar rifle.
>>64350433Within 10 yards or so I disagree completely.Especially in a house and around doors.A well designed pistol its like pointing a finger.Less force blasting into your shoulder less concussion too.Within 10 or so yards its very intuitive.
>>64350443>A well designed pistol its like pointing a finger.Didn't know we had 4kids staff posting on /k/.
What's a fun accurate 22 pistol?Should I get a used Beretta Neos for spacegun aesthetics, or a revolver because wheelguns are just fun at the range?
>>64350453Ruger Mark IV never fails
>>64350450If your slightly better than a mouthbreatherSemi auto pistol > pump 12 guageI'd even make a case for magnums like .357 being all the STOPPING POWA you need.
>>64350441>I'm not sure I have the qualifications for a shotgunWhat does that even mean?>I definitely can't afford a thousand dollar rifle.https://palmettostatearmory.com/ati-alpha-maxx-ria-5-56-nato-16-30rd-rifle-black-atigax5569ml.htmlYou live in America, son. Buy a rifle and train with it>>64350443>Within 10 yards or so I disagree completelyI think you overestimate the average person that has never fired a firearm. Maybe 5 yards and under I'd agree with you but 10!?>>64350453Ruger Mark IV with a suppressor
>>64349089no bully
>>64350468>Buy a rifle and train with itMan that thing is sexy.If only I was rich.
>>64350018Is it possible to put the 3 dot sights on the M9 style the 92s use? That's my only real hang up at this point
>>64350498yes, swapping the rear sight is possible
>>64350491https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9OL7IquoIoJust watch this and buy the Maverick, dude. You won't get better reliability and more firepower at this budget level
>>64350443>within 10 yardsI disagree. At any distance. With a single trigger pull of a shotgun you put 8-9 ~.30 caliber lead pellets down range at ~1200-1300 fps.
>>64350453I hate my NeosBut it is accurate
>>64350516It looks so cool with a c-more
>>64349091Pure quality and class in this image
>>64350433>Don't buy a fucking Taurus. If this is strictly for home defense, get a shotgun or a PSA AR-15To be fair, the Beretta clones are solid
>>64350188You can get an lcp max for a touch over 200. 380 is a bit more than 9mm but you'll be able to pocket carry it which helps ensure you always have it with you. And for the love of god watch some Paul Harrel videos to learn yourself.>>64350173You too for god's sake watch some Paul, do some research, hit the range, and ask questions here as need be.
Recently I purchased a new pistol and they included a sheet of paper that says to use CA glue on the trigger overtravel screw after setting it at my preferred position. This seems strange to me but I've never adjusted an overtravel screw before. Would purple/blue loctite be a more normal choice for this sort of screw?
@Burt - our people need us. We need to respond to the call.
>>64350516Fig apple, cranberry, and curuba elderflower were the best Redbull flavors.
>>64350138Fedex drivers will leave it without a signature anyway, but YMMV
Shooting Makarovs tomorrow, bringing my Bulgarian and a CZ-82, og family friend is bringing his P-64 and grandson, thinking I should bring my 22s
>>64350632Is the “emergency” that someone might become more universally hated than cyclists?
>>64349971>32 is nice and I already reload for it so why not. XDWhat pistols do you have in .32 acp? Pics if you can, please.
>>64349981>how do you manage to keep a stockpile of ammo Every time you buy ammo set 10-20% aside in a pile and just forget about it.
Y’all doing any shooting this weekend? Went yesterday before work. Probably won’t get to go again until next week.
>>64349220Gold Dot hollow point. It's too expensive to practice with, but when you're cornered in an NYC subway it gets the "job" done really good
>>64349448S&W have had bigger controversies than that. They sold their corporate soul to Hillary Clinton aka the Great Satan. They pushed for their own product to be banned from civilian use, and be given only to Feds
>>64351330I'm about to go shooting. Gonna shoot my bulldog at the range for once
>>64350479Im tired of pretending that samurai edges and italian daggers aren't top tier
I wish mirco nines were more fun to shoot. Especially after getting a full size 9mm shooting my tiny ccw gun kinda feels like a chore.
>>64351500Which micro 9 do you have?
>>64349220white box Winnchester. actually i think they're in a black box now, but still. They're almost as cheap as FMJs so you can actually shoot what you carry instead of feeling bad with every shot you take.
>>64350972At the moment, just a Beretta Tomcat. I used to EDC it, but after the 1st time I had a round get stuck in the chamber and had to pry it out with a tool, I decided that I wanted a gun that had an Extractor and removed it from my carry rotation.
>>64351500I agree. Something about the larger handguns satisfy an itch that the small guns just don’t. It’s just the feeling of the larger gun in the hand and it being much more conducive to landing easier hits that I think is a big factor.
>>64349913>IWBDumb. It's supposed to be a pocket gun. If you're carrying IWB there are many objectively superior options that offer more rounds in a real cartridge for similar size and weight. The PPK is a curiosity, not a sensible defensive weapon. Literally any modern micro 9 is better as a carry gun.
>>64351330I'm waiting for my 1,000 rounds of 115 grain to show up so that I can shoot some side by side with my 124 grain
How does the p226 compare to the p229?Are the grips and ergos literally the exact same or are there some scaling differences?Wondering if I should get a p229 with a legacy slide and a rail or a railless vintage p226.
Here’s something for burthttps://www.gunbroker.com/item/1125076277
>>64351987The human interface feels pretty much identical, except the 229 grips seem to have a sharper edge on the grip hump which I hate. Also there is a pretty big difference in recoil>>64352012Woah rad
>>64351637It's not dumb if you have a PPK and don't have those objectively superior options and don't feel the need to buy one when you already have a perfectly usable gun that you enjoy. A holster is a lot cheaper than a whole new gun, plus a holster for the new gun. XD
>>64352119>BULL red dotkek
>>64349448Colt Canada (aka CZ) is partaking in destroying firearms in Canada that have been confiscated. This is worst than anything Springfield has done.
>>64352263Source: https://waronguns.com/rendering-unto-cz/
>>64352119How is the recoil different?
>>64349091Post more of your mobile home parked on Walmart parking lot
>fabulous prizes to be won!WDHMBT?>>64332612>>64351330Your group is vector tight before gradually expanding. Why not begin at the upper -0 for five rounds then empty rest of the magazine at the lower -0?>>64352119>human interface feelIn this racket, we refer to that as "ergonomics"
>>64350138I have stuff delivered to work all the time. I'm guessing this isn't an option for you, for whatever reason.
>>64350138Every time I order ammo they just drop it off on the porch
>>64350138My ups driver just tosses it into the bushes
>>64352278Litle gun hav moer recoil>>64352325That's a problematic coded lingo dogwhistle for Glocksuckers
>>64352383At least yours actually arrive. UPS drivers will skip my address and claim that I "was not available for delivery". My suspicion is that these assholes prioritise commercial accounts or simply kick the can down the road when they fall behind schedule>>64352416"Human interface" is computer science jargon– you can't fuck me around, Burt. I invented ergonomics
To all you folks telling the new guy to get a shot gun, please pick one up and move around the house with it, trying to keep it pointed where you want. You can't because the thing is a mile long. A braced pcc style weapon is probably the best for a noob or for an experienced shooter, for that matter. I'm not saying you need to sweep the entire house or anything, but you might want to get to your kids' room or whatever. Also, shotguns hold a very limited amount of ammo and take tremendous practice to reload anywhere near efficiently. In fact, everything about a shotgun takes a lot of practice to be good at and you might know that if you took a shotgun course, which is hard because no one offers them because they are not very fun and you spend more time shuffling shells around than just about anything else.
>>64350833Man, how are these people even still alive? How could you resist running over an anti-fa cyclists? It's literally impossible.
>>64351592Neat gun. I think you probably made the right decision, but I've had rounds get stuck in guns with extractors. You could just carry a cleaning rod, kek.
>>64352497My shotgun is just as long as my AK while being lighter and less unwieldy. I’m proficient at duel loading, I have no children, and my walls will only be damaged by buckshot, not penetrated. And you’re right, to get good with shotguns you have to practice, which is why I have a yearly membership to my local sporting clays club and go twice a week to get good.Stop being an asshole, shotguns are a great place for anyone to start at.
>>64352119I really love the wear near the front of your p226>>64352497Small hands typed this post
>>64351637>>64352174The PPK carries IWB much more comfortably than a larger gun. It doesn't jam into my pelvic area when I'm in the car, for example.
>>64352497Point me towards the braced PCC on a $250 budget you absolute retard
>>64352592Get a job.
Anyone used a M&P 10mm? How do they stack up against the Glock 20?
Ugh, my groups at the range today were terrible. Just shot $100 worth of ammo, with very little to show for it. Couldn't group with any of my pistols. I did get a string of excellent shots by the end, all touching each other. Gotta work on my grouping.
>>64352497>braced pcc style weaponAutomatic shotguns deliver more ~.30 calibre projectiles per trigger pull than any automatic sub-carbine >you might want to get to your kids' room or whateverPistols have better maneuverability than shotguns and sub carbines>shotguns hold a very limited amount of ammo and take tremendous practice to reloadKek, if your concern is multiple, potentially armed home invaders then get a 9" barreled AR-15 chambered in .300 BLM with a suppressor and auto reset trigger. Hell, invest in some dual tubes for passive aiming in case the perpetrators have NOD's that can detect IR beams from your LAM :v
>>64352811>more ~.30 calibre projectiles per trigger pull than any automatic sub-carbineshut the fuck up this is such a cope statement. no one uses shotguns in combat anymore because follow up shots are too slow and reloading is super awkward.
>>64352694The M&P series is superior regardless of caliber.
>>64352854I don’t know how that can be, it’s a S&W product. And they’ve been producing lemons lately.
>>64352887>I don’t know how that can be, it’s a S&W product.you sound like a ruger apologist
Do you care if you find yourself noticeably printing? How obvious would it have to be for someone to realize you're carrying? I worry more than I probably should living in a gun friendly area
>>64352553>>64352571>>64352592>>64352811I noticed no one said>I've taken a shotgun class.
>>64352892You can attempt to deflect, but it’s frankly embarrassing that a company like that is having this level of production and QC issues, I think Taurus is currently equal to them.
>>64352910Good luck finding one.
>>64352826>>64352910And no one uses sub carbines in combat anymore because intermediate cartridges are ballistically superior
>>64352905For the most part, I don't care because 99.999% of people won't even notice and those who might probably won't care because they are likely carrying too. I mostly conceal as a courtesy to normies and frankly because I think open carry is pretty cringe.
>>64352905If depends whether or not it's in a place I'm not supposed to have a gun, so in a sense there are two levels to concealment, kind of concealed, and reliably concealed. No printing allowed during the second kind.
>>64352918They are rare because they are hard and not very fun.>>64352921Home defense isn't "combat." Besides, a 9mm in a hallway is going to be mighty unpleasant, 5.56mm out of an 8" barrel is going to be like a small flash bang. You are talking instant permanent hearing loss.
>>64349448HK can't stop winning!
>Anon asks for home defense options on a budget of $250>He is shown a cheap, reliable handgun and a cheap, reliable shotgun>Some weak faggot spergs out and acts like a shotgun is as heavy and unweildy as a Civil War cannon and recommends an option way outside his budget
>>64352995>anon was told to take shitguns out of handgun thread>whhaaaaaa
>>64350765Fedex just leaves notice here and fucks off
>>64352948>Home defense isn't "combat"Then why did you invoke combat in the first place?>5.56mm out of an 8" barrel>hearing lossI explicitly stated a 9" barreled AR-15 chambered in .300 BLM with a suppressor, baka Anon-kun
Guys I’m sad. I went to my LGS after work to check out (and buy) a Beretta M9A1 and I was planning on making it my everything. My CCW, my USPSA/IDPA, home defense, larp etc. I was supposed to be in love with it. I’m not one to blindly buy something, I have to go and see how it feels in my hand, how the trigger and ergonomics are. Try to seek out any nuances you might notice in person only. Then I’ll go and try it on the range. If I don’t love it in hand, I’m not going to buy it no matter how it good it shoots.Well. I liked everything until I got to the double action. I’m no stranger to DA/SA and currently own a CZ75 PCR and 2 Sig P229s. The trigger on the Beretta was actually kind of terrible and I was almost in disbelief. I kept dry firing it in double action in futility, waiting for it to get better. Eventually I kind of just stood there in front of the employee, at a loss for words like the moron I am. I was supposed to be in love with the trigger. But it was so heavy in the worst way and the trigger broke so close to the end of the trigger pull, it felt like I had to pull the trigger thru the frame to make it break. I hated that. The single action was pretty good and the reset was decent, but the terrible double action just kind of ruins everything.I honestly don’t care how good you can make a trigger with aftermarket parts, if the stock configuration sucks, it’s kind of like polishing a turd. I prioritize reliability and stock is always going to be the most reliable and how I carry any CCW.Stock for stock, the P229 has absolutely the best double action, smooth with no stacking and breaks at the perfect spot. SA between the 229, CZ75, and M9 are all so close that it’s negligible which is best. The DA on the CZ is kind of gritty but breaks at a good spot, so it’s 2nd best to me. M9 worst.So anyways I guess I’ll just put the fries in the bag and get on with my shitty life
>>64353093skill issue: the post
I bought a used Taurus PT 111 the other week and a fucking piece fell out of the mag well when I was doing some dry fire practice. I can't for the life of me figure out where it's supposed to go, but now magazines won't lock into place. Probably related to that, I guess.This is my first gun and I'm ignorant and retarded. Been tweaking about this, can include pics if it helps.
>>64353093A triggerfag that exclusively cares how stock triggers feel is baffling to me. This is like if you were a suppressorfag who is chasing decibels but you refuse to use anything other than oil filters
>>64353133Can we see a picture of the piece? Also, I don't know who talked you into a Taurus as a first gun but you should probably unfriend them
>>64353151Gun show acquisition was one selling point, the other was that it fits in my hand and CCs pretty easily.
>>64349089>US-made GlockWhy not
>>64353142>triggerfag that cares about stock triggersI would say I’m more of a stockfag that cares about triggers. Also idk anything about suppressors since I live in Cali but I would compare striker-fired guns to oil cans and hammer-fired guns to actual suppressors lol
>>64353184i cc a g42 :)
>>64353184My USA made Glock has a much tougher and robust finish than my Austrian made Glock.
>>64353184>.380 glonkBut why
>that'll be $7,499.99 plus tip!
>>64353346>Doesn’t even have match triggersLol, lmao
>>64353337To experiment with suppressed 380
>>64353093I'm so glad I have no idea what a "good trigger" or "match trigger" feels like so I can just enjoy every default pistol/bullpup etc.
>>64347903Do USP and USPC magazines with flat baseplates even exist, no where has them in stock.
>>64353442>.380>suppressor marked 9mmIs this safe?
>>64353488Yes, both .355 bullet
>>64353497>both .35Oh, OK
>>64353337Because Glockfags are fags
>>64353513
>>64353133>>64353176It's probably a chunk of the mag catch. Contact Taurus, they have a lifetime warranty now but I'm not sure if it covers their old models like yours that have been out of production. Won't hurt to ask.
>>64353093If we're complaining about triggers, my reset is more audible than tactile
>>64353133I'm guessing mag release broke, but disassemble it along with a YouTube video and try to see if the parts look broken/abnormal. If it's your first gun you'll likely get frustrated with disassembly/reassembly but it's an important thing to learn with any gun. Also probably save up for a different gun when you can.
It's of upmost importance you tell meAre Faxxon pistol barrels good quality?
>>64353325Then they were manufactured years apart
>>64353567Definitely no, feeding issues, barrels splitting etc.
Which version of the m9a4 should I get?
>>64353581The one compatible with your pistol optic
>>64353581Full-size Ideally with the Steiner MPS if under 1k if you can get it LTT elite is better looking IMO
>>64348050anon i hope you've seen this video beforehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWXGbgB2UWMTGS makes shotgun and sporting clays vids, he went to the Beretta factory and made a video on it
>>64353578>barrels splittingBig if true
>>64353578>barrels splittingJFC I have their barrel in a 10/22What do you mean they are splitting?
>>64353618>O/U slop
>>64352995>Faggot can't take an L and admit that shotguns aren't as easy to use IRL as they are in video games.
>>64353637>counters with a complete departure from the budgetYour post was pretty much a non sequitur
K what about True Precision barrels?
>>64353480USP9 mags are by default flathttps://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/642230266728USP45 mags I think have the retardo extendoid by default. MGW and HKParts both have flat base plate 12 rounders but they are kind of dearhttps://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/214831SOr you can buy the flat plateshttps://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/642230160545USPC/P2000 I think they only included 1 flat one WITH the gun idk if you can buy them separate but you can buy a flat base plate if they weren't out of stockhttps://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/642230164826
>>64353581kino
>>64353631>>64353622>>64353647You don't find it strange that he didn't even post a picture of this issue that's supposedly such a widely known problem and you're immediately cowed? How the motherfuck would a 9mm barrel split? You fucking marks.
>>64353675Mate, I replied to his claim with skepticism
>>64353675I could just buy an OEM threaded barrel straight from S&W I just wanted a fancy color tbqh.It's becoming such a headache I think Im just going to cop a S&W barrel.
how the hell do you assholes shoot so good?10 yd, one shot every 1-2 seconds, weaver stance.
>>64353811I dry fired at a sticker on my wall while watching youtube videos for all of quarantine. It was like my hyperbolic time chamber.
>>64353893could I use a bore laser when I do it to see movements off the sticker?
>>64353899You can just use your red dot.
>>64353893Man I'm jealous. I didn't get into guns until after COVID. That would have been great.
I have a question but I'm waiting for the next thread
>>64353893that's sick af. I think it's time for me to dry fire way, way more.
new>>64354041>>64354041
>>64347973damn... beretta is older than the united states
>>64352276>Source: https://waronguns.com/rendering-unto-cz/wow it's fucking nothing
>>64353904Still waiting on the mount for my EPS. If the anon who recommended the 509CT the other day is here, I took your advice and got one. Have nothing but positives to say so far and came with a pretty comfortable holster, only pain is that it won’t take my EPS with the factory plates
>>64353176Looks like this bit. If the manufacturer won't fix it or at least sell you the part, and I think they will, you can always ebay the parts you need. Ebay is bad ass for used parts.https://ebay.us/m/b04D5N
>>64353811Dry fire plus shooting inside is harder and kinda sucks for a number of reasons.
>>64353899Just watch your front sight.
>>64354173>shooting inside sucksit fucks with my nerves. Like after 100-200 rounds my hands start shaking reflexively, like all the fuckin noise makes me tense.
>>64354260Do you do double ears? I always do now, but I started when I was shooting inside.
>>64354269nah just the regular cans. Sounds like something I need to try.
>>64354273Yeah, really helps and it's super cheap if you already have the over the ears kind.
I know a dude who knows a dude playin another dude who throws hundreds of glock switches onto section 8 housing and schoolyards. He's pretty cool.
