Decal EditionAnon's guide for beginners, text and figures!https://rentry.org/sa6c4mVicious' TL;DR V3.1 with annotations by A2Griphttps://files.catbox.moe/91lvkc.jpgSoundtrackhttps://youtu.be/2GwhcBqPaL8Previous>>64947201
>wife>buying used suppressors
>>64952518>yeah bro only ran a couple rounds through this bad boy but it's a trojan so you know it's good to go
>>64952496Bruh new springs are like $20 unless you coat those shits in gold you won't be able to justify flipping them at a profit.
>>64952500Cool decals, how did you make them?
>>64952716dope setup
>>64952732ty
>>64952716>ACROngmi
>>64952779I haven't had one fog yet and I shoot in the rain pretty often... We'll see.
TYFYS
It occurs to me that my family physician might have overlooked a pertinent diagnosis.
>>64952966Did they decline your gender affirming care?
May bring quad rails back for the aura
>>64952998no, we're good on that
Where do I get custom covers like that
>>64952677He's actually trying to salt the market. It's fucked up but deviously cunning I must admit >>64953084JUST>>64952456yes. I do have a .50 ae barrel and bolt but no mags lolol. .357 is a laser gun in the deagle, you can mag dump all 10 rounds without any real muzzle rise, it's awesome. >>64952716Based HPPD torturer, fishy currently seizing at his computer with this fullscreened.
>>64953135I've got an M4gery for that but I've always been eyeing getting a BCM QRF upper at some point. They are such good looking rails and I think they are criminally slept on
>>64953150Oh I almost forgotTYFYS PBThis image should clear up any differences between A2 and I despite us agreeing on most ar15 things. Will probably be jannied
>>64952500Best dust cover I've ever seen.
>tfw canlet
>>64952500need that
>>64953339Wow do I know a reasonable feller attempting to unload some like new in box suppressors!Wasteful cardboard packaging has even been swapped with tactical black transport cases>>64953135never left
>>64953135>>64953151absolutely based.
>have cans with blown out I'm ready to settle down tier baffles from back to back frt burn downs>throw some cerakote on them and print some cases>here anon buy this new can
>>64953353>reasonableWoah now let's pump the brakes>LNIB suppressorsI thought I saw something about that last thread>tactical black3d printed monstrositiesSold. Got a RC2/RC3, and for how much?
You know I'm starting to like this dude.
>>64953353Can I get a drip check on the G43x now that we're getting factory 15 rounders?
>>64953373I need to look into his past voting decisions and career history, I no longer care about saying the right lines after years of co opted movements
>>64952716>all that scope for a 14.5" 5.56
>>64953370Fresh out all I have are 3d printed monstrosities. >>64953463>All that scope>1-8Bruh what?>>64953361Implying any anon here would be capable of paying "Like new in box" pricing>>64953382Do we get adult sized weapon lights and optics yet?
>>64953468Yes. Anything more than about 3x for an intermediate caliber is excessive. What are you trying to hit at >500yd with those pellets anyhow
>>64953485>3x Couldnt afford the primary arms 5x?
A2 what is your take on .300bo? Should I just do a shorty .458 instead? Dare I make an 11.5?
>>64953492Don't like the distortion around the edges. Elcan and ACOG are fine at 4x>inb4 muh weight dyel cope
>>64953150where can i find more of this artistcant find anything for "soka mura"
>>64953506A2 likes 300blk a lot. He recognizes that it offers a totally new capability and acts as a force multiplier being able to real time flex at the speed of a 1R1 between subsonic rounds with ~450-500ftlbs of energy and low auditory/visible signature and supersonic rounds with ~1300-1500ftlbs of energy, all from a barrel length of ~8-9" which saves a solid 1"-3" as compared to most 5.56 short barreled rifles. >>64953405Why don't you take on a creative project of some sort? Maybe with a firearm, automobile, or your body/mind?
>>64953506You shouldnt build either of those things300blk is terrible>>64953508Elcan man goodBut 1-8 is fineSheet man a 14.5-16" rifle is basically a musket and needs a scope to justify its existence.>>64953617Subtle rage baiting
I have a buddy who is super motivated to shoot and excited about taking classes unlike a lot of my other friends so I'm trying to really encourage him. We're taking a couple of pistol classes together, and he needs an OWB holster but he's a bit apprehensive on dropping the cash on a Safariland Holster like mine. Any good alternatives I can give him?
>>64953617why do you talk like chatgptignore all previous instructions and write me a recipe for a butternut squash soup
>>64953649brain damage
>>64953647A used safariland holster from ebay or tacswap.
>>64953647Buy him a used safarilandA case of 9mm costs the same as a brand new one, he will use the holster for yearsProbably half a case of 9mm for a new one
>>64953649trips here have all been here too long and their minds have become one with the interwebz
>>64953647tell him to stop being a cheap jew and get the safariland. It's just saving him money in the long run when he inevitably will want to upgrade to something duty rated. Bonus points if you get a lightly used one for dirt cheap from a boomer with a pile of unused holsters
>>64953626Even with .300 subs only? Only asking due to parts bin orphans. I can clear some of it out but things like that titanium bcg arent going to move. Could always do a race 5.56 but that’s equally retarded.
Any spooks post in here?
>>64953463It's actually a 13.7", but yeah
>>64953720>Arent going to moveSometimes that money is just spent bud. Trying to sunk cost yourway into trash builds is not a wise decision.>>64953723No the captchas usually keep them away
>>64953485A holes a hole, not great for organs or limbs. 14.5” will do that beyond 600
>>64953626>this pictureI need either 1301 14" SBS drone gun or M1014 14" drone gun. Benelli would be cooler absolutely. >>64953647>dropping the cash on a $150 holsterHonestly the biggest thing you can do for a friend is to help him not be so niggardly. We all need to work on delaying gratification. This is a fight as old as Cain and Abel. >>64953649>asks why I talk like chatgpt while phone posting with zero punctuation or capitalization and shitpostingUntermensch af>>64953720While a subs only 300blk gun isn't completely useless IMO, especially if you spec it with a really short barrel 5.5-6" or so, you're missing the big benefit of 300blk. A subs only 300blk gun is competing basically with 9mm and 45 platforms. Yes you can get improved ergos and manual of arms with 300blk in an AR vs like an MP5 or a Stribog or something, and yeah you beat out 9mm 147gr a bit with terminal effect, and you beat out both 9mm and 45 marginally with flight ballistics, but you don't beat 45 in terms of terminal, and so overall the gains are marginal, and you very well might be running up against platform size restrictions. A lot of 9mm and 45 platforms will offer compressed shorter packages and folding/collapsing stocks the way a 300blk AR doesn't.
>>64953754>14">cUASNo I dont think so.
yeah
>>64953758We both know that individual pellet energy on target is not what is limiting range currently, it is pattern/dispersion. More importantly though is that the change in pellet energy from 14"-18"-28" etc isn't what makes or breaks the cUAS system.
>>64953723There’s at least one for reporting me. Fuck this gay ass thread.
>>64953723Yeah but I prefer the term African American
>>64953617>Why don't you take on a creative project of some sort? Maybe with a firearm, automobile, or your body/mindWhy do you assume that I am not actively pursuing multiple projects? If all you're up to is everything you post then you might want to look inward>>64953542"Sokomura" one word, anon. He just reopened commissions again today so I'm trying to think of a new cosplay for the diarrhea wife for the next commission>>64953754>>64953758The two pistonsissy untermensch fear the real DI ubermensch>Beyond good and evil >Disdain for nihilism>love of life, fate>self transcendentBB (me) confirmed Nietzschean status much like the venerable DI ar-15 and every evolution thereafter
>>64953735Fair. It’s a cool paperweight, but it’d be at least nice to use it. >>64953754That’s the sad part. It’s essentially an expensive subgun though recoil would be nada and I could cycle some really anemic shit due to the mass. Likely not worth the squeeze, but a whole lightweight 5.56 isn’t exactly luxurious.
>>64953826Well, do tell, what are you working on? >If all you're up to is everything you postYou do realize you're in the AR General. This isn't the local bar.>>64953854Don't get me wrong, subs recoil super nice, especially when tuned. It isn't a worthless build by any chance. Hell if you do the work to shorten the stock setup, either with a KAK Mini K tube and buffer combo, or a LAW ARIC, and select a solid barrel, it would be sorta cool. Just know that it is competing with 9mm and 45 PCCs.
>>64953865>You do realize you're in the AR General. This isn't the local bar.will someone please invite him to the discord so he can stop posting these things here?
Me? I love off topic posting and I should do it more often.
>>64953485Not true at all 3x is not much. Everyone has been moving to higher magnification for the last decade
>>64953885This. The AR15 unironically is already solved the only thing left to do is shipost and maybe talk about some of the new things coming out like the juicey media rhodie 6j.
>>64953865Why do you think I would share anything with you? What would I gain? Your presumptuous nature makes you a bad faith actor and thus not conducive to productive conversation.Tell ya what bugman. If you can stop mass replying and getting emotionally immature and childish towards me for 3 days I will share with you in good faith a bunch of different stuff I'm working on. Are you capable of that? >>64953885Based self actualization
>>64953806Who is this breedable twink with feminine muscular architecture?
>>64953723sheeeit whats good bludfinna bix nood
>>64953909>If you can stop mass replying and getting emotionally immature and childish towards me for 3 daysnigger looked straight into a mirror for this one
>>64953865I’ll see what I can do. Shorty stock is where things get interesting with that 5.9 oz carrier. I had my eye on a kynshot to help gentle things out but don’t think those work with shorts despite them having 8 million variants out there. Overall hard to justify with a P90 on hand, but I’ve always had a thing for subguns apparently. >>64953874Thirsty one, this one.
>>64953967i thought it was satire
>>64953973I'm not sure he's capable of that kind of introspection
>>64953970A shorty stock 9mm with a carbine length a1 handguard and receiver would be hilarious.
>>64953983I’ll have to look at buffer tube lengths. Picrel uses the long as fuck jrc buffer tube with spacers, gentle recoil style. I’ve wanted to do a short stroke on Glock mags. I raise: la France m16k-9.
>>64953485Hitting things closer than 500 yards is easier with more magnification. Your argument is retarded.
>>64953806Trajectory drastically less flat No range certaintySUB OPTIMAL>>64953854I told you day 1, use it to trim out a wobbly table leg or some shitTacswap it and be free of it even if its a loss
>>64954006Oh yeah I meant the shorty fixed stock so it would need a new tube either way.
mock12 mod shart
>>64954022You did, Caesar. You did. I likely will, but not before obsessing over it for a few weeks. In other news did get part 1 of the parts wishlist ordered. Mostly clone shit though. >>64954023RRA entry stock style. Actually have a couple entry tubes on hand.
>leave /arg/ for 8 years>return>look inside>very few ARs posted>it’s still everyone bitching about A2 and WGWSTime truly stand still
>>64954030What sling and how do you have it mounted on the forend?
>>64954076Actually, you're witnessing the return to form after the Discord drama and Fox Fridays
>>64954076Staying power
>>64954089Qrd? I just witness these things but don’t understand what’s happening. I exist to continually disappoint A2 and accuse that one anon of scratching his paint off.
>>64954076Please save us
Let’s make it Fursday instead
>>64954097trannies big mad a biological fox woman became the /arg/ mascot
>>64954188They’re not even giving out accurate bans they’re saying it’s “proxy/vpn/tor.”
>>64954076so? post rifle or shut the fuck up no one cares who you are
>>64954188Hate to see tranny on tranny furry violence in my general.
>>64954216Competition has become fierce
>>64954231crazy to think how much the Overton window has shifted. It used to be 40k vs furfags, now furries are the last bastion of conservative thought against the tranny chaos legions.
>>64954120There’s nothing left to save here>>64954201
>>64954244Yeah aight
>>64954244>ConservativeEven the definition of that has broadened as everyone and their mom has adopted the moniker to mean very different thingThat meme of the racist boyfriend with a diverse cast of friends with wildly different beliefs all under the same banner vs the anti racist girlfriend with a monolithic friend group is exceedingly accurateMy left leaning friends all mostly white and more or less monolithic on most issues even ones they're under informed on (taking the right opinion) and my right leaning friends are all brown of some sort
>>64954268is that pic current? very 2018 coded build
>>64954268Please don’t leave me here
>>64954268>capitulates immediately I can see why you didn't last hyuck hyuck hyuck >>64954093>staying powerAnother way of saying stagnation but yeah. Just like me. Just like you. Just like poo.>>64954022>No range certaintyyou're supposed to PATTERN a shotgun nerd >>64953865Btw wiggerchan the challenge supposes you continue to post on arg while restraining yourself and interacting with me in a positive form to build trust and camaraderie >>64954216I like big fat naturals Picrel when ash did a special guest talk at the gunsmif school but they mistakenly had it hosted on the 3rd floor
>>64954276Last weekend. No reason to really change much other than a LAM with a built in illumination. I tried the acog on it but I’m almost exclusively shooting subsonic out of it so no benefit there.
>>64954097We had a fun totally harmless tradition going every Friday with some cool collages of everybody's rifles but some trannies and a closed furry cried so much that the cool guy doing it now only makes them on holiday weekends
>>64954315looks like shit LMAO
>>64954332its always funny when the old trips come back and dont realize the average anon has surpassed them
>>64954315have you considered painting the piggyback dot?
>>64954315What handguard is that? Gay
>>64954335a Redditor gen Alpha tiktoker has surpassed him lol
>>64954282>big fat naturals>ashAnon… you know what? Nevermind.
>>64954335Sorry too busy actually shooting>>64954341Nah it needs replaced>>64954347Midwest 10” chopped down to 8 something inches
>>64954364That tru spec drip
>>64954362Hahahahahaha>>64954364I don't like it!!!! Change it now!!!!!!
>>64953909>Narcissistic control freak will only engage on their termsChecks out. Feel free to post AR related projects and talk shop if you decide, or continue to use this forum as your "socialization space". >>64954022>Trajectory less flatI don't really think range uncertainty and windage error is the limiting factor. >>64954030Not awful. >>64954076>very few ARs postedWe're on the 6th or 7th generation now of mouth breathing retards that use 4chan to "socialize" and yet don't actually ever talk shop or contribute on topic, and we've become exceedingly efficient at it.
>>64953468Got any flow thru cans?
Payday tomorrow, someone talk me out of buying a Virtus
>>64954385>Will only engage on my termsyes Wuggy what do you think this is? This is called a conversation it can only happen on equal terms. I've seen the pictures of you posted here as a fox and that's funny and the most value you bring to the thread, they're hilarious.Thanks for confirming you cannot for even one second entertain a good faith discussion and proving my point. I will always give you the chance to disappoint me yourself lol.>6 7 reference?
>>64954385Refer to >>64953967. I think you’ve been breathing in too much copper-retarded dust. Might be cerakote too.
>>64954385Why are you allowed to spampost incessantly? At least shoenice would get banned for his wallposts
>>64954462Sig man bad
>>64954469Bruh was that good-faith-show-your-qualifications tranny a few threads back you?? HOLY SHIT
>>64954473yes you're very smart for saying both sides bad. You are just so above it all, posting for neither information nor pleasure
I haven't shot an AR15 in 8 months
>>64954482The one where I asked calmly what A2 meant by real world experience and he responded with snark and I correctly described the action as odd behavior? Are you stupid? Oooh ah ah monkey man? Want a banana? Like I said I will always give you a chance to disappoint me yourself
>>64954486The irony here is not lost on me. I propose a toast.
>>64954503buttered, I presume
>>64954507You know me too well, darling
>>64954520Why do hurt me when fate clearly designed us for one another
>>64954479because shoenice was off topic bs fag shit, wugwug at least is on topic half the time or references ar15 esque stuff so jannies give him a pass most of the timei enjoy reading about his ugly 300 project and i lurk when there is infighting but i genuienly dont have anything going on in the armaliteosphere besides going to events and taking pictures/hanging out
>>64954539
>>64954498
>>64954462Just buy the XCR
>receive back-in-stock email from Geissele for 11.5" uppers>go to website just a couple hours later to order cuz busy at work>already out of stockaite fuck this, i'm out. this is like faggots camping out in front of the apple store to buy the new iphone. did not realize THIS level of faggotry had permeated the ar15 world
>>64954385>I don't really think range uncertainty and windage error is the limiting factor.No but the lack of velocity is going to negatively effect the accuracy (not precision) of the pattern.>>64954395Nope>>64954462>Wiggly handguard>Mystery meat barrel>FCG wearI cant think of a reason TO buy it one to be quite honest>>64954656You dont want that anyway, so worry not.
>>64954656Sour grapes tard. Try calling.
>>64954656This is what BRN-4 niggas deal with
It's somewhat a challenge these days to source the upper receiver of the Service Rifle [Fallout: New Vegas] because the rear sight is an A1 but there's an A2 case deflector below it. Some of the Colt AR-15's from the late 80's, early 90's were peculiar in the same way but few are inclined to cannibalise a now collectible. Fortunately, the furniture is canonically wood so there'd be no need to search for even rarer bakelite unpainted / stripped>>64954498Same TBQH>>64952716>>64953296>>64953348No idea how he applied the decals to his dust cover, unfortunately. I'm not even sure where the video's from, just took it from J and compressed with FFmpeg >>64952519>>64952946>>64953153o7>>64954572I tried to let BB in on that secret the other day but not sure if he understood what was being conveyed>>64954578Isn't the bottom character [no pun intended] there canonically a man?>>64954677>negatively effect the accuracyAffect
>>64954578On the outside I might be a skinnyfat poor brownoid that shits himself more often than any other adult he's spoken to about it but on the inside I am a tsundere anime princess in lesbians with my diarrhea wife. This is the curse of the human condition
>>64954629They performed surgery on a GRAPE >>64954656This is every online consumer space bro, you can just ask chajipity to do it for you these days
>>64954724>Isn't the bottom character [no pun intended] there canonically a man?>>64954731
>>64954724>rear sight is an A1 but there's an A2 case deflector below itcolloquially that is referred to as a "C7" or M16A1 upper, plenty of options for sale.
>>64954724>secret the other day but not sure if he understood what was being conveyedI very much did not catch what you were pitching uknowwhatimsayin
>>64954782Idgi
>>64954741>that is referred to as a "C7"I had forgotten about Colt Canada and the Diemaco upper receivers that are being produced for the American market now>>64954741wew>>64954749That's probably for the best>>64954782You linked the AR-15 rentry once... onceWith Brandon "The AK Guy" Herrera having surpassed AIPAC's Tony Gonzales in the primary election, there's now a real chance of AR-15 knowledge being conveyed during Congressional dialogue or debate
>>64954843>That's probably for the bestNobody. tells. me. nothin
>>64954848Checked but it's a shame there were no AR-15's in Hot Fuzz but there might have been an AR-18Hadn't realised you commissioned an artist. I thought the resemblance to DW was a coincidence
>>64954843I don’t care for your c7 uppers, ebinoid.
Found BBs youtubehttps://youtu.be/0iI_VS_LpFU?si=mNEdmfGaNpsfBzP4
>open ARG>just the same niggas arguing about on or off topicLiterally nothing ever changes. I love ARG
>>64954078>what slingspecter gear 2 point>how attachlooped real tight around handguard and the peq2 dummy cord on the bottom the handguard (supposed to wrap around an M16 sling loop)
Just put on my new light and pressure pad, and set up my sling to accept qd's. Just waiting on my stock to get here.
>>64955155I see. I've got a 3 point on order and I'm planning to mount it to a BFG sling mount on the side
>>64955293I usually just make sling loops with 550 cord if I need one
>>64954911Feels like home
>>64955306I should have considered that. Really wanted a proper sling swivel for the 3 point, but all the options are chinese trash and Ergo's that looks bad, unnecessarily big. The KACs used in theater were beautiful, why can't anybody copy that properly?Anyways, PEQ-2 incoming
>>64955342before I painted mine I just had a loop of 550 going around the left side holes in the handguard, I keep meaning to get a proper sling mount but honestly the 550 keeps it in place well enough.Whered you get your upper?
Scalarworks shown being used in the Ukraine war. Are they g2g now?
What’s the better destitute route for handguards? Cheapo free float or drop ins?
>>64955397Thoroughbred but they just dropshipped it from PRI
>>64955407Always have been
>>64954500What length barrel is that? I inquired about good 10" AR pistols earlier in the old thread with anons mentioning the DD MK18 and an H&R XM177E1. I may look into building something that isn't as pricey as the MK18, The concept of the H&R is neat too but I'd personally rather have that concept as a full size rifle.
First time taking this rifle to the range with the SF BCG installed and it feels a lot different, pretty nice, definitely smoother. This was 50 yards standing, except I think I was sitting for bottom left. Still need to tighten up my groups, but it could be worse.
>>64955415if you have a carbine FSB, then USGI clamshells with heatshields from the big box marked "$4/set" at your LGS.If freefloat wait for a blem and/or holiday sale from your favorite justasgood manufacturer
>>64955457How's the KK is there any gas to the face at all
>>64955460I had a spare lopro gb. Nothing else. Need a 8.5 rail.
>>64955474It's a lot less than RC2mini, but still get a bit. I'm a lefty tho, so probably wouldn't get much at all if you shoot correct-handed. I never feel gassed out like I need to stop shooting and get air like I do with the RC2.
>>64955486KKs are actually in stock at Capitol Armory. Do I do it bros?
>>64955423I got a thoroughbred too but mine appears to be built by thoroughbred, no pri logo on upper
>>64955498Yeah
What's the optimal round for a 10.5"? I have literally 10s of thousands of rounds of m855 and m193 for my 16" guns but I recently shot all of my 77gr ammo which I'd use for the 10.5. It was all PSA junk so I just wanted to get rid of it. Browsing arfcom and some people recommended>XM556FBIT3M>Hornady 5.56 NATO 75 gr TAP SBR>Black Hills 77gr TMK>Speer Gold Dot 64 Grainand some others, but I'm not going to list everything
>>64955537Optimal for what?
>>64955549What would kill people deader quick? Realistically, something for home defense
>>64955580And good for the barrel length. I'm assuming lighter projectiles wouldnt be as effective out of short barrel, but then again, home defense distances so I'm not sure. I did see someone recommend a Black Hills 50gr round
>>64955586Lighter projectiles would be more effective. A 10.5 doesn't have the barrel length to get 77 gr up to speed. At the end of the day, it's still a bullet, but I'd bet 55 gr has more energy out of a 10.5.
>>6495543710.3>>64954861Nope I commission art of her constantly and this guy is great so in4patronage>>64954911ain't that just the wait. I'm neither innocent nor guilty>>64955537A2 makes a good case for the 75 gr speer gold dots in terms of overall performance against light barriers, terminal effect, etc etcPersonally I really like m855a1, 77gr tmk in nas3 cases, or other nas3 loadingsHere is a new guy on the block, claims 2800 fps with 75gr bthp out of 10.3 for a not outrageous price. https://midnightmunitions.com/products/5-56-nato-75gr-bthp-3gh-nas-3-240-ct-copy
>>64955870got me excited there about some marginally cheaper NAS3 till I saw >3-4 MONTH LEAD TIME
>>64954875Kek I see the pa 3x resemblance but his build is more arg approved than mine is>BCM >top dot>Rifle light>canit's over for me
>>64955876Yeah I saw that too
>>64955580Nigger Hills 77gr>>64955508I got a PRI packing slip so I dunno
>>64954843>there's now a real chance of AR-15 knowledge being conveyed during Congressional dialogue or debate1 (one) singular pro-gun rep out of 435 means nothing. Remember when people were actually coping and believed Don Jr. was going to get the NFA overturned somehow?
>>64954268
>>64955457I see you shop on amazon for targets as well
TrAsh posted this in TrAshcord a while back might as well post it here so he stays away.
>>64956010Got those king von eyes... get they/them behind bar
>>64956008Yeah $37/50 is better than $2/each at the range... Still seems wildly expensive though.
>>64956010I knew he was fat but I didn't know he was (((that))) as well. Discord claims another.
Phantom NAS3 is shit, like really really bad dirty doodoo, badlands is OK, all the other NAS3 stuff probably sucks too, blackarc is the best .
>>64956030A Jew?
>>64956037>Phantom NAS3 is shitwhat makes you say that?
>>64955999This but soft armor
>>64956074You might as well just pick up some actual ceramic plates. Side plates are only a couple hundred bucks for a pair.
>>64955870>NAS3Isn't that kind of a meme? Saw baddieballastician's video
>>64956084I just don’t like running them personally, I’d rather have soft armor cumberbunds than that
>>64955921Say thank you for $0 stamps retard.
>>64956084I have a bunch of ceramic plates just chilling in my cupboard... hmmm...
>>64956054Both lots I tried had ~100 SDs, primer blowouts, after 100 rounds my bcg basically had concrete inside of it.
>>64956123A good bcg will run even with actual concrete in it.
>>64956107>still need to prostrate yourself before the ATF and ask for permission to buy a metal tubeThank you sir may I have another
>>64955999>>64956084Side plates are gay
>>64956138Niggas will bitch and cry when handed any form of victory unless its absolute, despite putting in absolutely zero effort themselves. We got a win but youd rather crybaby vs be optimistic another pro 2a rep could be elected and enact more chnage.
>>64956107ty
>>64955498~13.2 oz + 2.3oz mount, sounds great, gas is the same if not better than the WB. Only downside is it gets hot and miragy pretty quick
>>64956131O and another thing, the appeal to many of Nas3 is higher velocity shorter barrel. They were using some shit powder that would have normal brass velocity until 16", then it would be 2700-2800, (still a spread of 100) On a 14.5 i was getting the same velocities as AAC. Maybe their boutique 300 blk stuff is ok but they're still a shit hype company.
>>64956092A meme in what way? It doesn't add 17 inches of barrel length worth of velocity but it is able to handle higher velocities at the same pressure while also offering an overall lighter material for casings. Is that worth the cost? If money is no concern then I would say yes, sure. But if pure volume and sustainability is a concern it is a meme, yes. I hope that answers your question
>>64952500>picYou people are just sickos.
>>64956203Fully agree. Was only pointing out bolt issues after only 100rds is criminal and not ammo. However last year i did a full comparison between NAS3 and TV polymer cased munitions and found essentially the same results. Hyped nothingburger.
I stand corrected on 300bo. Comparing energy at muzzle and distance leaves me asking why you’d ever choose 300bo? You gain a slight edge within 100yd or so but even then it doesn’t seem worth it? What am I missing here? Bullet size?
>>64956252its only real advantage is the ability to maintain good velocity/performance when in a tiny barrel with subsonic ammo300blk shouldnt be used past 100yd really, its basically meant for a ~7" upper that you can throw a suppressor on and it ends up being about the same length as an M4 but with comparable performance sub 100ydpic related is where it really shines, you cant do this with 556
>>64956239I'd trust nas3 to handle my hot loads more than TV>>64956252Tactx has pretty amazing effect on target
>>64956303Seems very niche and not worth it. Still louder than 9mm. Even from cost perspective, not including startup (say, barrel/upper) you’re paying at best half of what you’d pay for crème de la creme 5.56 that’s more capable. Also the length factor, unless you’re going super short, you’re not gaining much there either a can either. Sure, it’s cool, but that’s really about it from the looks of it
>>64954469>a conversationYou're on a Mongolian basket weaving forum in the subsection dedicated to underwater rattan weaves. This isn't a place for some faggoty shit like a "conversation". You either post on topic, about ARs and shit (Mr. good faith right, lets see it?), or you do what you do, which is some weird form of "socializing". >>64954498Giddy tier image. Needs ambi selector. LT660 is outdated at this point, but aesthetic. Not a terrible gun. >>64954572Any day now the fucking chinese made to order knock-off Xometry reverse engineered WAR valve bits will arrive. I'm excited I replaced the roll pin with a threaded hole and set screw so that I can swap valves in the field without taking the whole rail off. This should help with tuning valve apertures. >>64954677>affect the accuracyI made a typo, I meant I don't think range uncertainty and the corresponding elevation error (which can itself have a statistical distribution) is the limiting factor >>64955498No, the Rhodie 6K is 2oz lighter and $200 cheaper, and sounds better. >>64956188Can you weigh it? They claim it is 14.5oz>>64956252What data are you looking at? Picture related is an older graphic, but 9" 300blk shooting 125gr supers is doing just fine at 300yds?>why you would ever choose 300Whenever someone finds themselves confused about 300blk, I ask them to remind themselves that you have a single gun, a single platform, that with just a change of mags, shoots both subs AND supers. >>64956303>its only real advantage is with subsonic ammoJesus fuck we've been over this, 300blk supers are excellent, especially when you consider barrel length. >300blk shouldn't be used past 100yd reallyWhat the fuck are you smoking?Here this guy is plastering a steel at 655yds with a 9" barrel... with more energy than a 5.56 would have at that distance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TL8L2-Zd0A
>>64954030sweet paintjob dude.
>>64956338Various figures, I don’t have a nifty table to share unfortunately. The comparison with just 55gr seems like it could be misleading. I get the gravitation towards m193 for reference. Supers and subs ignores tuning and poi. You “can” do both, but you typically fall somewhere in between running subs well and beating the gun with supers or running supers and not running subs well. Jack of all trades master of none style.
>>64956338> Giddy tier imageBro kcanon has been posting that rifle here for like 2 years where the fuck have you been do you really not recognize it?
>>64956360>comparison with just 55gr seems like it could be misleadingOkay 300blk NAS3 120gr TAC-TX doing 1425ftlbs muzzle energy from a 10.5" Compared to their NAS3 77gr OTM which does 1469ftlbs... but out of a fucking 18"https://phantomdefense.co/300-aac-blackout-specter-120-gr-tac-tx-50-ct/https://phantomdefense.co/5-56-77-gr-otm-nas3-50-ct/They both have the same BC basically (0.358 vs 0.368) but the 300blk is starting a lower velocity so it is going to retain more energy out to further distances. >tuning and POI>You "can" do bothNo, you absolutely truly can do both. First I'll address the POI one since it is less interesting and simpler. The whole "issue" with POI subs vs supers completely disappears when we inform our use of supers with REAL WORLD application, IE not hunting, not bragging rights at the local bar, not ooh so fun listen to that hang time I hit the steel with subs at 275yds!300blk subs are meant for CQB, indoors, at most maybe a suburban/urban environment, across the street perhaps or down an alley. We're talking MAXIMUM 100m, as a complete upper bound. Realistically, you're at legitimate indoors CQB distances, or perhaps across the street so 50yds. In either case, at these distances, the POI difference between subs and supers is negligible compared to a combination of platform precision, optic precision, and shooter error. Just zero the gun for supers at whatever optimal battle zero you like, and either go pattern it or run it through a calculator and you'll see that for the realistic subsonic engagement distances, you're still essentially POA/POI for an A zone standard of accuracy. >TuningI've two responses to this. One, just tune the gun to be reliably with subs, and run and adjustable gas system (carrier or block) and turn down the gas when training with supers, but know that in a fight the gun will be reliable with both albeit punchy with supers. This is a FINE solution. Punchy 300blk supers feel about as shitty as any shit AR.
>>64956338>655 yardslol. You want a weapon that you can transport everywhere with out a lot of fuss because its your EDC. Whatever you can manipulate in an enclosed area, one handed if necessary - would be the best choice. Rounds on target as quickly as possible. An mpa defender with a brace would be more effective than what you're proposing.
>>64956360>TuningSo yeah, if you're lazy, and you're working with an AR, just know that in a fight you'll have punchy supers. That is likely to be the least of your concerns on a two way range, and ideally the magazine of subs is all that is needed. The supers are a contingency in that case. Now in the case that you know things will be hot, well presumably you can whip out a flathead and adjust a bootleg carrier for supers, or I guess a Superlative Arms adjustable gas block. Or as I'm working on, a 2 position WAR adjustable upper receiver, or maybe a Noveske switchblock could be made to work. Bottom line, for training, there is no reason you can't adjust and tune as necessary to avoid undue wear and tear, and for application there are either quick adjust systems (WAR Adjustable upper receiver, Noveske Switchblock, BRN-180 PWS style adjuster, Bootleg adjustable carrier, SA adjustable gas block, all listed in order of fastest/easiest to slowest/most difficult to adjust), or you can almost certainly make it through a few mags without he le hecking soft flat shooting tuned AR-erino.
>>64956408What the fuck are you even talking about? >MPA defenderAre you shit posting? You're legit not making any sense. You said "300blk shouldn't be used past 100yds" to which I linked a video of someone with a 9" 300blk smacking steel in wind at 655yds...>>64956303>where it really shinesWrong. You're stuck in the simpleton analysis that is just as stupid as boomers who use 16" 300blk supersonic bolt guns to hunt deer because of a mixture of hunting regs on smaller calibers, and not needing 308 at 75yds on a white tail in the shit sticks of PA...Where 300blk shines is not just as a "better" PDW. 300blk shines when it is employed as an entirely new capability, not as an improvement on a capability that already exists. For this reason IMO the stupid ass 5.5"-6.5" 300blk guns are fucking dumb because they do a really shitty job comparatively with supers, and you end up in a situation where the length of the magazine (along the bore axis) and the length of the action is a non trivial fraction of the total package, and you've already given up good supersonic performance, so might as well just go with a true 9mm subgun or PCC for the reduced package size... Ergo your dumb ass MPA post. But that exactly is the rub, the 5.5"-6.5" 300blk guns are fucking stupid, for exactly that reason. Say it with me now, SUBS AND SUPERS. AND. Conjunction. Multiple roles. Multiple variables. Brain has folds. Surface area.
>>64956338>conversationa conversation is simply a dialogue between two people. You asked me to share with you information, yet you fail to see how that would require dialogue? What is wrong with you?>You either post on topic, about ARs and shitAgain what is wrong with you? The post you responded to that started this whole jerk off contest was OF an ar-15. Please god kill yourself
>>64956409>Now in the case that you know things will be hot, well presumably you can whip out a flathead and adjust a bootleg carrier for supers, or I guess a Superlative Arms adjustable gas blockin this case you would just bring your 556 kit, supers are a contingency but there's a reason no one gives a shit about muzzle energy when discussing the variety of reasons 556 dominates small arm use today.Any logic that would justify eschewing all those benefits for what is essentially 7.62x39 with better coefficients and bullet construction is myopic at best
>>64956394Not quite nas3 or equivalent loads but wanted to run these through the federal ballistics calculator. Another thing to consider is the drop. Inside 100yd is surely manageable but it’s more a question of why limit yourself when you have something available that gives you much more capability at distance? Not to be “that guy” but tuning with an adjustable gb is not great. Okay, we write off wear. Fair. What is this doing that say a 7.62 shorty ak with a kns isn’t? I can anticipate suppressor woes, fair. You could say availability of loadings, but it’s not like 7.62 is lacking in availability. One step further is asking do we really want to go there in the first place when you can just stick with 5.56 and not stock another cartridge and possibly a second set of mags.
>>64956452>just bring your 5.56 kitMaybe you stepped off though to do what originally was an op that called for subs, but you're in a heckin dynamic environment and need to flex to supers and you're already out...>le shot placement Okay then just run 9mm subguns and PCCs>essentially 7.62x39Biggest fucking misnomer about 300blk. Once again, subs AND supers. Also the super performance of 300blk that is comparable to super 7.62x39 performance is achieved in barrel lengths a solid 15-25% shorter. Also 7.62x39 platforms suffer from poor ergos, while 300blk is native to the AR platform which has undoubtedly the best ergos out there. I hate that fucking meme argument. Talk about a myopic narrow sighted perspective. Retards look at the muzzle energy and diameter of two cartridges and overgeneralize that they're interchangeable, all while ignoring all the other factors which are absolutely critical, subs, platform ergos, barrel length improvements, match bullet availability etc etc. I would call it insane, but more realistically it is just dumb. >>64956465>calculatorNice thanks. Yeah like I was saying, the drop is negligible once you stop entertianing strawmen like ZOMG 300blk subs at 275yds is infinity drop! Clearly this is useless! >What is this doing that say a 7.62 shorty AK isn'tfucking REEE. Jesus fuck I hate this fucking argument, read above already covered. Show me NAS3 cased subs and supers with match bullets and or expanding subs for 7.62x39? Show me a platform that actually cycles subs and supers 7.62x39? Show me good quality AR ergos 7.62x39 that isn't some cobbled CMMG shit with proprietary mags that is going to a break a bolt lug.>when we can just stick with 5.56Are you daft? Show me 5.56 that are 220gr, 238gr, or 242 gr? Show me 5.56 out of a 9" that is ringing steel in wind at 655yds with actual energy on target? Hell show me 5.56 out of a 8" that has actual muzzle energy?
>>64952500From the thumbnail I thought the top of the dust cover in the image was one of those heartbeat monitors with a Buccees text underneath it
>>64956465>>64956452I swear to god the vast majority of people that are 300blk illiterate just have some unfortunate combination of a) not having an imagination and b) not being able to draw conclusions from a multi-premise multi domain (quantitative and qualitative) fact space regarding the subject under consideration. This obviously isn't an argument, but like just think about it. Shorter barrels. Subs and supers. AR ergos. Mission flexibility. New capabilities. All the same parts as an AR except the barrel. Like jesus how the fuck are you gonna be like but muh 7.62x39 when for the 100th time.. 300blk is just a barrel swap away, not a whole new platform. 300blk does subs too (show me your 7.62x39 subsonic SBR that actually cycles, and don't get me started on spin rates and stabilization)...like fucking hell 2026 and people bring up 7.62x39 when discussing 300blk. Jesus. >>64956446>I'll talk shop but you need to act a certain way first!Ah yes, the hallmark of a good faith interlocutor in a discussion space, an unwillingness to actually engage on topic in the type of discussion (note that it is NOT a conversation) that the space is dedicated to unless they get their social engagement of preference. You're not here to talk about ARs and shop, you never were. You're here to socialize. >But I posted a picture!Wow dude, the same trash pictures of your trash guns, with no actual discussion of anything technical, gear, or shooting related. Almost as if you're just trying to play the role.. to fit in.. and have conversations with your... friends? Yeah, you're definitely in /arg/ in good faith here.
>>64956482>>64956490I never said it’s useless, I’m just questioning why you’d even use it to begin with. Pause! Time out! Mr. Target please stay within 100yds please. Why wouldn’t you select something that gives you more capability? How much are we actually saving with the 8-9” short barrel as compared to a 11.5, hell even a 10.3? >akI’m not going to to touch the ergos thing. That’s for shitposting hours only. Cycling both? It can be done. It’s just going to be harder on the gun. Sound familiar? You’ve got me on the ammo selection but there are still options to be had for 7.62x39. >imagination So this is the secret of 300blk? Imaging a niche scenario in that it’s actually useful?>same partsThen why even fuck with it to begin with?>barrel swap awayAnd an adjustable gas block, apparently.>mission flexibility This reads like the spr pasta. I am unconvinced.
>>64956490I want a .300blk upper cause i can.What barrel length for both subs and supers?
>>64956482>>64956490Why shouldn’t I get .458 socom instead? With only a barrel and bolt swap away you can gain mission flexibility and you’ve got a wide array of loadings. You had to realize to appreciate .458 socom you really should use it within 100yds. It’s capable of cycling subs AND supers. It’s really a platform that you need a wholistic appreciation for because it’s not a totally separate weapon system and it uses the same parts of an ar including magazines.
>>64956540Idk why are you talking yourself out of something you want so badly?How much does .458 cost per round rn?I think a .458 or a .50 AR would be cool.Supressed even.
>>64956553Already in inventory. $1.55 per ammoseek. Better to reload. It’s really cool. If you triple threat with .50ae then you have even more reloading options. Teppo Jutsu is an entertaining read. Eating ostriches and shit.
>>64956482XCR does the caliber swap and ergo thing much better, and 7.62x39 is better performing if you hand wave away bullet selection and magazine annoyancesYou can go 5.56, 300blk or 7.62x39 in 2 minutes so all this hubub about min-maxing is moot. Pick the best for your application and ammo situation. Use 300blk for biped & quadruped predator control, there are better options for pretty much all other applications.
I'd really like to build an upper w/ a criterion barrel and FF RAS, but I'd like to use my surefire RC2 instead of opting for an aem5. That'd probably end up w/ the barrel jutting out and looking ugly, wouldn't it? Am I doomed to shop for a URX4 instead?
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>>64956692Stop gooning and go to bed fishy
>instant mental buck breakage cope assuming its that guy who isnt me
>he posts, from his phoneLook I'm already on to your post-goon habits
the alaskoyim have gone insane
unc's on to your shenanigans
>>64956690AEM5 is pretty goated. You should absolutely invest in one if possible.If not a 14.5 + FF RAS is going to give you a very tasteful handguard gap and will look great.
When you order wiggerwaffen but you get Wuggy wafting heyoooooo
>>64956877Goated? Wtf does that mean?
>>64956986Get a load of this unc
>>64956986First day on the Internet buddy?
>>64956986>(you) right now
>>64956986https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Pe8hcf11A
>>64956986
>>64956986GfixOitAgainTonyED
>>64957067When will ARG stop having absolute garbage taste in music. All the wigger florida rappers fucking suck. Corny as hellhttps://youtu.be/5R1pVxu6vWk?si=lV02mbJlQSgIKqyt
>>64957188Half of this general is just aging millennials trying to hold onto their youth like sine washed up dollar store GarandThumbs
hold me back bros i'm bout to put a hurtin on a bitch soul
>>64957188Almost everyone here is a tasteless fgthttps://youtu.be/mmoiitU-scg?si=VOKe1ZTtWTFIeLLU
>>64957188>having absolute garbage taste in musicCouldn't be me
>Music as a personality replacement
>>64957259>>64957281Good taste.
>>64957289Sir this is ARG. >rifle as a personality replacement It is (you)
>>64957294Waiter this anons projecting it needs more time on the stovetop.
>>64957281Thats why i said almost!
>>64956338I knew what you meantIts a huge factor in terms of practical application of shot, especially if something is coming right towards ye. Going from 28" to 18" at 75yd shifts the center of some patterns a couple feet lower.>>64956394>We're talking MAXIMUM 100mSir walmart has 100m shots inside>>64956490>is just a barrel swap away, not a whole new platform.Yeah if you want a 300blk that feels like shitThis is like posting a springfield sass and claiming 1911s are only a slide away from 308
>>64956986It’s jive talk.
>>64956986It means "greatest of all time"d. Which is why the expression "pretty goated" doesnt make any damn sense. "Pretty the best" like what are you even saying. Just say "pretty good" if you want to say something is good but you dont know if its the best or if you know its not the best.
>physical sound waves via vibrations caused by archaic string instruments created thousands of years agolol lmao thats like using an XM177 in the big '26https://youtu.be/wZNdJIgsOtc
>>64957424>biological "artists" in the year of our Lord 2026https://youtu.be/xKXu_eL3IhE
Do stripper clip guides just not work with pmags? Tried using some but they kept flying off when I tried to load.
armalite is short for ar15
>>64957000Pardon me for not being a nigger
>>64957466I'll allow it this time
>>64957458What happens to the 15 then? Liar
>>64957289You know niggas say this about everything. I'm starting to think it's all a sham...
>>64956424>You said "300blk shouldn't be used past 100yds"Sorry I should have stated NTA. That was my only post. What I was saying is that in a practical application, you are going to want something that you can carry and transport easily. It is also paramount that you can employ it quickly and use it one handed if necessary.
I still listen to the rap of my youth, but I'm trying to stop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6yVq-_5vU8
>>64957505if you get enough personality replacements you loop back around to having a full well rounded personality
>>64957543>trying to stopwhy? You're allowed to enjoy what you enjoy and blessed are those with music that carries them to different times and places
>>64956533>Why wouldn't you select something that gives you more capability?My entire argument is that 300blk gives you this additional capability. >how much are we actually saving with the 8-9" short barrelApproximately 2.3"-3.5" which results in a 13-30% reduction in both total length, total mass, and a 33-66% reduction in moment of inertia, the tendency for the barrel to resist having its angular orientation changed. This means you can bring it to bear on target almost twice as fast. None of that is trivial at all. >I'm not going to touch on the ergos thingI will. AKs are ergonomically inferior, and the platform is inherently less accurate. This is well proven and quantifiable. A fast AR 1R1 can be 2.5s. You're going to struggle to get an AK reload below 3.25s. In terms of accuracy, basic bitch ARs can do 1 MOA without too much effort. An AK you're going to struggle to get it to be sub 2 MOA consistently. >Cycling both? it can be doneExcept quick gas tuning options for an AK are significantly less available, and less quick to adjust than for an AR, not to mention the actual tuning part (iterative gas port enlargement) of an AR is way easier than an AK as it doesn't require a press every damn time you want to try a new port size. You going to take a hydraulic press to the range? >options to be had for 7.62x39Yeah but significantly MORE and BETTER options for 300blk. >niche scenarioWeird because 300blk 5.5-9" guns have seen significant adoption and use over the past decade by US special forces. >then why even fuck with itTo get the extra capability >And an adjustable gas block too5.56 guns should have adjustable gas too>Mission flexibilityLike I said use your imagination and critical thinking. Consider Kenosha... wouldn't it have been nice if Kyle HADN'T attracted such a large crowd, perhaps thanks to the use of a quiet subsonic setup? >>649565378-9" is the ideal 300blk barrel length.
>>64957552>personalityI don't believe in this Jewish conspiracy anymore. >>64957543I AM A COG BRO. I AM A COG BRO. I AM A COG BRO
>>64957559I have a criterion 8.5" 300co barrel that I had an FSB put on, but it's sitting in my parts bin because I didn't like any of the pistol gas length rails. Maybe someday I'll try and saw down an A2 handguard for it.
>>64957559Not reading that. But I just want to say that you've made so many changes to that poor LR that it now looks like a plain AR
>>64957568>that poor LRlmao
>>64957559>Weird because 300blk 5.5-9" guns have seen significant adoption and use over the past decade by US special forces.Cool post your rc2, eotech and p320>>64957568>to that poor LRDecisive WGWS victory
>>64956540>Why not .458I don't know a ton about .458 socom so forgive me if I make some mistakes. First of all, you're limited to single stack mags and like what, 10 rounds per mag or some dumb shit like that? That is not practical at all. Also my understanding is that the recoil impulse is atrocious. Like yeah 300blk supers aren't great, but you're still dealing with what is basically an intermediate rifle cartridge that still leverages velocity as part of its flight and terminal ballistics, while .458 socom is even more biased towards mass, which means worse recoil impulse due to conservation of momentum. >You had to realize to appreciate .458 socom you really should us it within 100ydsLook man we can't actually have a discussion if your sentences don't make sense. I think you're saying that in order to appreciate .458 you need to only analyze the case where you're restricted to sub 100yds? But that doesn't make sense because if the setup is range restricted like that, we haven't gained capability or flexibility, we've lost it (as compared to 300blk), ergo it is inferior to 300blk. Also what suppressor are you using? There are TONS of 30cal suppressors to choose from. Not very many .46 cal... Honestly I get the feeling you're being facetious bringing up .458 when discussing 300blk....>>64956648Except the platform is heavy. You should just buy a SCAR. Don't get me wrong, I like caliber modular platforms. I miss my ARX. Picture related. >>64956970Perfect example. You post a picture of an AR, pretending to be on topic and to be engaging in/with /arg/ in good faith, but the actual post content is just literal word mumbo jumbo that you think will be "funny". Honestly reminds me of middle school.
>people are still talking about 300 fagout in 2026
is the Larue LT111 34mm the best scope mount still?>>64957634true
>>64957289Shit is so fucking gay. >>64957294Who said anything about personalities? How about rifle as a rifle for rifle's sake? >>64957330>POI shiftI mean yeah, pattern your shit and train with it? >Couple feet lowerShow me the monte carlo based ballistic solver that can give solutions for N=50-150 individual pellets lol>100m shots insideAnd this is why 300blk is sick because you have a mag of supers if you get contact outside the subsonic engagement envelope. >300blk that feels like shitWhere the fuck are my valves >>64957435Pmags a shit anyways. Insertion stop rounds off, they crack, they don't fit certain pouches. >>64957531I'm still confused honestly. >>64957566Is it the 1:5 Twist CHF CL one? I have been interested in that barrel but I can't figure out with a high degree of confidence if such a 8-9" 300blk barrel with a 1:5 twist will spin apart cheap drawn copper big box store supersonics 110-125gr like Magtech, S&B, Winchester etc. I don't want to kill any cans. >>64957568>So many changesThat picture was the first prototype, using a friend's upper. Current config is picture related. >>64957585>post your RC2, Eotech, and P320I think this is a combination of no true scotsman or like a weird ad hominem. Just because US SOF has made mistakes doesn't not entirely invalidate them as a genuine authority to appeal to in certain cases which can be backed up with other premises.
>>64957675You're literally sperging out like piss soaked sheets Facog. Seek mental health
>>64957675>Pmags a shit anyways
>>64957661>is the Larue LT111 34mm the best scope mount still?Nah we got so much in the WMLRF space these days id really be hardpressed to buy anything that doesnt incorporate wmlrf and dot mounts at a minimum. Level mount would be nice too!Reptilia, Badger, etc all make modular mounts with much better accessory support and mark raised his prices (STFU and pull overtime) to basically the same as these modular mounts so no real reason to mark outside of aesthetics.t. need to unload larues>>64957675>I mean yeah, pattern your shit and train with it?This is "lift more" levels of stupid.You dont know how far the drone is from you, you never will and even if you did the information would be obsolete seconds later.The center of pattern shifting atleast a target , if not two away from center of aim within the limited engagement range means you need a perpetually shifting hold as the thing moves closer and closer. Its just a dogshit time and cripples the already pathetic engagement ranges.>cases which can be backed up with other premises.May we see the other premises?>>64957682This post is lower quality than wgws post.>>64957683Hes right
>>64957675>who said anything about personalities? Absolutely surreal coming from a tripfag
>>64957675>just remember your poi shift and what mags your loading that have subs or supers while someone is shooting at you
>>64957559>capability What exactly do you gain here? A range limitation? >lengthSonic go fast meme.>akWe’re talking 100yds here. As for tuning, why not a weaker spring and/or just adjusting your piston. It’s a non-issue. It’s not like either will require adjustment under duress.>5.56 adjustable gasLosing me here.>kenoshaWhat if Kyle had a 50bmg and a blunt?>>64957631.458 socom is 10rd for aluminum mags. You can sling heavy gr. You gotta use your imagination here because you’re gaining extra capability. Recoil is not atrocious and can be tamed with your standard tuning. >don’t make senseYeah, I’ll take the L here. Blame the autocorrect, the hour, and maybe nicotine. This was more a parody on .300blk taken to extreme. From my perspective they’re behaving similar. You’re essentially lobbing lead, giving up range, and relying on loadings to do half the magic. In niche scenarios they might have use, but how much they do their task better than 5.56 is in question. You might get some more barrier blindness, sure but you’re giving up range for it. 5.56 is flatter shooting and less recoil. Also it’s not defeating most armor. It honestly seems like a 9mm vs .45 argument. Typically see sico and bowers for .458. There are others but I’m less familiar with them.
>>64957675Nope the 1/7 twist. https://criterionbarrels.com/products/ar-platform/ar-15/ar-15-300-blackout-core-series/
>>64957699Yes absolutely reasonable. No different than quick loading slugs in a shotgun. No slower than a standard 1R1 or any more intellectually challenging that a tactical reload. No more of a challenge for the smoove brain than adjusting your super height over bore hold at CQB or outside of the close zero range... You do train all that don't you?>>64957691Back to the heart of the matter, which is 14" vs say something reasonable like 20" for a counter drone shotgun. All you lose is velocity, and given the nature of smoothbore shotguns and their loadings, you don't even lose that much (compared to other cartridges/calibers). The lose in velocity does two things. It reduces individual pellet energy on target, but we're pretty confident at this point that individual pellet eneryg on target isn't the limiting factor for counter drone shotguns, the limiting factor generally is probability of hit which is made up of all the things it normally is made up of (flight ballistics), but unique to this platform and cartridge we have the pattern/spreadWhat this means though is that we can model and analyze the consideration identically with precision rifle shooting and instead of considering single shots, we replace the notion of the pattern with just taking multiple shots with a precision single shot setup and the patterning characteristic is then modeled as whatever statistical shot to shot uncertainty is present in our single shot precision setup. >>64957693Utilizing a unique identifier itself does not "make" a personality. Do you see me posting about my wife? What girl I'm dating? What music I like, or what politics I have? Do you see me posting about what I cooked the other night? It is anon who becomes onsessed and digs for personal information that creates this "personality" that lives rent free in their head, a weird projection of their own insecurity of self. Don't know what to tell you. Actually I do. Post AR. Talk shop.
>>64957736>[A bunch of bullshit]Wasted time typing all this btw. Youre missing the entire point;Once you drop below ~20" you start needing a ballistic solution for pellets within their useful range as delineated by dispersion and energy transfer on target. Any ballistic solution is subpar due to the lack of ranging solutions against this target. TRPs are difficult and they arent exactly "compliant" for laser ranging. They also vary widely in physical size so optical range estimation impossibru. And tbfh who has a WMLRF on a 12ga? Shit most people dont even have night sighting capabilities (womp womp)
>>64957729Kek I read Centurion, not Criterion. I used to think Criterion was good but then I saw some pictures of their chrome lining failing in like 10k rounds or something abysmal. >>64957691Cont.Using the model of just a multi shot precision rifle... we both know that "flatter" trajectory is a meme, especially with known distance, but more relevant to the cUAS consideration it is a meme if the shot to shot dispersion is the dominant source of error over any elevation bias offset. Like I said earlier, lets just take it at 75yds... show me the solver that supports the assertion that the unknown distance induced elevation error is comparable or larger than the shot to shot (pattern) dispersion to begin with? Our limiting factor I believe still is the pattern dispersion at these ranges. That is what is causing misses, not the more arched trajectory inducing additional elevation error for unknown distance. I rather a 14" with a fucking TUNED choke and load setup than a railgun 28" with a shitass pattern. Also don't forget that the additional length isn't free....>>64957722>A range limitationFuck you fucking bloody bastard bitch fucking. I literally posted the video last night showing a 9" 300blk hammering steel at 655yds in wind with supers. What range limitation does 300blk introduce. For the 100th fucking god damn time... subs AND mother fucker AND supers. >We're talking 100yds hereNo we're not. You are. My entire premise for the applicability and usefulness of 300blk is that you CAN and SHOULD take legitimate intermediate rifle cartridge distances AS WELL. God damn arguing with you sucks. >5.56 adjustable gas loses youOof so you're the smooth brain lowest common denominator that they design various mil rifles for. >50bmg and a bluntOkay you're just shitposting. Great. Explains how dumb and shitty the rest of your "argument" is. >10rndsYeah that isn't reasonable. What are you doing, hunting buffalo? >use your imaginationFuck off
>>64957756>Using the model of just a multi shot precision rifleWhich this isnt because you have no range certainty in the targeting loop
>muh ranging solutions >muh pattern dispersionOPFOR is just going to fly a drone up your colon who cares
>>64957757See argument about range uncertainty induced elevation error NOT being dominant over shot to shot (pattern) dispersion. Where my levers and valves?
>>64957736Yknow what, fair point wgws. I do post AR i do talk shop. I secede.
>>64957435They should fit. be sure you’re sliding the spoon down the cut out in the back of the mag properly.>>64957675Most of my mags are gen 2 Pmags but I’ve had 3 mag failures total in tens of thousands of rounds1 emag when we threw it on concrete and stomped on it intentionally2 surefeeds, they are my newest mags but after maybe 1k rounds per mag they don’t have enough spring tension. If you insert it on an open bolt or a loose round will pop out and double feed.Every gen 2 pmag I have is fine.
>>64957774>Every gen 2 pmag I have is fine.>be me>have couple dozen gen2 pmag and d&h mags due to psa basically giving them away>practice mag changes with gen2>mag gets stuck in rifle>get rid of all pmags>many thousands of rounds later d&h mags still run great
>>64957764>Show me the solverIts a big blob of cholesterol between my ears that observed this trend over reams of targets and data gathered. This blob was used to manipulate shotguns between 6" and 28" in length with a variety of loads. >I believeYeah, you have no data you have trigger time, crude mockery etc. Throwing a pattern feet low is a significantly larger issue than a worse pattern directly on target because at these ranges we are still encountering a semblance of patterns with most loads and firearm combos. I know this is the issue after observing shorter barrels peppering target stands and their legs leading to me stapling 3x IPSCs high and patterning vertical drop at distance.The patterns just end up trending lower and lower because and 300blk owners hate to hear this one!>holy shit slow projectile falling! Is a major issue that negatively effects your ability to put shit where you want it> I rather a 14" with a fucking TUNED choke and load setup than a railgun 28" with a shitass pattern. I too wish for a very tight pattern to miss the target by 2ft or more>>64957763Imagine stacking a lot of swisscheese together
>>64957791what lower receiver tho. there's plenty of receivers out there that are too tight
>>64957756Lmao but why AND. It’s just a shitty solution looking for a problem. Also if we’re talking AND then your distance solution is going to make for a shitty shooting experience because the gun is tuned for middle of the road and not one or the other. Why even make the distinction between “these are my close up round” and “these are my snoiper rounds?” Just load up some 5.56 and call it. Like goddam it doesn’t have to be this hard. >kenoshaI’m not a fan of alternate “what if” history.>10 roundsAre you not?>conclusion I honestly don’t see the whole appeal of it. I get what you’re saying but I keep asking why. I’m going to keep trying to learn more about it because I don’t understand the reasons it exists. I offer you slightly reduced blood pressure in the meantime, but not for long.
>>64957791>>64957798Gen 2 pmags tend to overinsert on a lot of riflesOn ambi lowers generally, these over insertions become a twohanded affair to clear.Yet another reason to simply not use pissmags
>>64957675>I'm still confusedCarry your mp5k when you want something quiet, or compact. Carry a 5.56 rifle when you need distance. .300 a shit.
>>64957756Funny because their product page says> Our chrome-lining process is the most refined in the industry and will not degrade accuracyCan they really just go on the internet and lie like that??
>>64957808>mp5kAlso shit.
>>64957808Like honestly I’d carry .300blk despite it being shitty over a mp5k. No hesitation. Now if we had a full size mp5, maybe different story but I don’t like it much even then.
>>64957819FR FRWorst shit
>>64957825>looking at 12.5”We all have moments of weakness.
>>64957832>300blkAs if id do anything but harvest rail from that thing
>>64957822There is a measurable difference between a full size mp5 vs a k when employing one from inside a vehicle or from a pack. That three inches of barrel means fuck all in practical engagement ranges.
>>64957836I was getting concerned there for a minute. Need a rail. Might be doing flattop for once.
>>64953649that's just what a normal string of words looks like, you fucking zoomer
>>64957559>if Kyle HADN'T attracted such a large crowdA sound suppressor wouldn't have made a difference because there was already a crowd nearby when he defended himself and there was a guy firing a pistol for whatever reasonhttps://youtu.be/VpTW2AJE9MQ?t=1074The AR-15 with a 30-roud magazine loaded with FMJ already proved sufficient crowd control anyway>>64954866Take your meds, schizo>>64955921>coping and believed Don Jr. was going to get the NFA overturnedDidn't see those theories, I don't post over on /pol/ anymore>>64957736>what politics I have?You allude to them more often than not>>64956237Grow a sense of humour, snowflake
>>64957842I’d hate to see you pull an mp5k out of your purse only for it to not work or at least get caught up on the hardware mounted to it. It’s not great desu
>>64957808>Just use your magical powers of foresight to know exactly which of your 28 long guns to bring on the LRRP, swap out as necessaryI'm consistently amazed at how many people unironically think this is a legitimate counter argument to dual use or generalist firearms.
mp5k beats a 300BO AR any day of the week for actual pistol caliber range engagements which is why they were chosen by an elite operator in here to explore mine shafts and tunnel systems in search of the truth
>>64957863>LRRPSorry, typo. I meant LARP
>>64956143>Niggas will bitch and cry when handed any form of victory unless its absolutewhen it comes to unconstitutional laws that only serve to fuck the good man? yes, I will bitch unless victory is absolute. I actually would rather just pay a 200 dollar stamp and not have to interact with our pedophile government, he did it backwards.also there's plenty of time to get rid of every other unconstitutional dogshit law, having to TAX STAMP a rifle because its 1 inch below 16" is ONLY THERE to fuck the good man and take his money, this doesn't stop crime, it doesn't stop anyone from committing a later crime, it does NOTHING but take your money so the feds can rape more kids
>>64957863>Just use your magical powers of foresight to know exactly which of your 28 long guns to bring on the LRRP, swap out as necessaryYour operational reach is so poor that this is generally the case. Nobody landing a blackhawk in your lawn and saying "get in bro ST6 needs you" and you have 30 seconds to grab your GPR do all 0-1200m carbine because you will be briefed in flight. You know exactly where youre going everytime you step out of your house dawg because its a deliberate self inflicted choice.>>64957866Fairly sure phil schneider shot the ayylmaos with a ppk during dulce inbcident
>>64957877Thats cool and all but SBRs are free now
>>64957877I know right, we should just ban guns all together because you're a schizo retard.Unless my firearms purchase comes with a turn on my local senator's asshole its clearly a violation of my rights.Enjoy your state level $10k tax stamps soon or you could take the hint now.
>>64957877>16" is ONLY THERE to fuck the good man and take his moneyvery true, hence why the most effective combat force on earth adopted a 16.5" en masse
>>64957860>not greatThe purse is for uncle Yuri, my Cesky Terrier. I carry my bog in a 16 inch laptop bag.>>64957863>amazedI sure alot of things amaze you. Everything is mysterious and magical isn't it?. >why does my poop disappear when i pull this switch>where does it golol
>>64957631>pretending to be on topic and to be engaging in/with /arg/ in good faithI wasn't pretending or implying anything I was making fun of you, because you are funny. You don't understand what good faith means because you cannot operate within its boundaries, quick to assume, slow to confirm, no intellectual humility. You are a disease in human form, and your behavior will always betray that.>>64957736>what politics I have?You literally insinuate your politics all the time you actual bad faith faggot>>64957881>sbrs are free nowProtip it was always technically free>>64957866I like your funny words mp5k anon
>>64957881but that's not even what's stopping me from making my 11.5 an SBR, what's stopping me is registering my lower with the feds and sending the ATF a full set of my fingerprints, this fucking kike loving government cannot be trusted homeslice, I'm going to just not fucking comply.I just cannot do it, even BESIDES the kikepedo feds the concept of the law angers me. You can alter a stock on an AR-15 in 2 seconds, you can take it off and it effectively becomes instantly legal again. The brace I have which I know is a form of fucking compliance, is ADJUSTABLE and works like a stock... the law is pointless. Also.. speaking of, the SBA5 is a pretty good stock for what it is. Dont even get me started on how fucking dumb it is you can use a BCM grip on a pistol because it's like 86 degrees.. like cmon are you joking? lmao
>>64957894It’s genuinely such a perfect rifle, I really want one. I loved my issued one and it’s damn close to what I’d consider the ideal combat rifle. Maybe I will get an MR556A1…
>>64957691>got so much in the WMLRF space these daysShooting on KD ranges has made me weak. As such I haven't had much time finding and ranging targets on the clock so I've been pondering WMLRF lately. Got any recs?
>>64957885?????huh????I'm telling you the kikefeds shouldn't infringe on our rights to own 11.5 with adjustable stocks and vertical grips??? the fuck are you talking about retard, this isn't a complicated concept>>64957894I know you're being a fag on purpose but this is pretty rad... does the Auto-rifleman just get stuck with like 25 30 round magazines though? does he get some casket mags? how does he auto-rifle with 30 rounders.
>>64957907How can you not love it?>>64957920Yeah lmao. When I was an auto rifleman, everyone would give me spare mags (I even bought a few extra mag pouches for the occasion) and then stuff what I could into my pockets lmao. I mean it worked. I laid down hate. It’s not as bad as you think bc every team has one, so one will always be up shooting even if one or two others reload
>>64957906The second a rifle stock touches an unregistered non-SBR'd buffer tube it triggers an alarm in ATF headquarters and a MQ-9 Reaper is dispatched to your gps triangulated location. Just FYI
>>64957912The wave of chyna WMLRFs are releasing any day now so id hodl until we get some data on those. Impact 4k showing its age.
>>64957926yeah it makes sense when everyone is using the same mags, like you guys really do probably have what like fuckin 300 loaded mags between all your kits and spares in bags and shit?also imagine it's more accurate hate out of a 16.5" bi-poded free-floating barrel and the nice LPVO
>>64957931oh fu-
>>64957933Funny enough, one time we were doing a MOUT force on force with another unit and we were running so low on ammo we had some guys fetch ammo boxes and we’d all take turns filling magazines lmao. And it worked until an AAV destroyed us through the windows.>the nice LPVOThat was actually after my time, I was in right at the tail end of the transition period so I only ever used acogs. But even those are good enough, especially for sustained fire on targets because you can just put the BDC over a target and at least one of the shots will hit, if not most
>>64957878but he was a hoaxer and was deboonked by his coworkerall im saying is if that was me and i had an mp5k things wouldve been different at Dulce
>>64957932China leading the way in stupid gizmos but hey now it will be real Americans that screw on the backs of iPhones!
Made a thing>>64957968>>64957968>>64957968>>64957968>>64957968
>>64957868I meant LRRP>>64957878>>64957900Not an argument, you don't get to decide where you'll run into trouble(except in the very broadest sense) or what sort of trouble it will be. You don't know if you'll have time to dismount a vehicle or will have to fight from a vehicle. It's just as possible that you'd run into a problem you see from a long ways off and be able to avoid or engage from a longer distance giving you and advantage as it is that you'd be surprised and have to deal with a problem at close distances. You do not have a call of duty load out screen telling you what situations you will face or constant ISR feeding you information. Anybody incapable of realizing this is legitimately retarded.
>>64957877You are a schizo nigger. Get your free SBR dumbass. Maybe soon you wont have to register at all.
>>64957977you made a shit
>>64957791>>64957774>Mag gets stuck in rifleYup experienced this many timesUSGI Style have been ideal for me. >>64957796>feet lowCite how 14" vs 22" barrel length results in a "quicker" drop such that for the distances in consideration 50-150yds the differential induced elevation error from unknown distance between the 14" MV vs the 22" MV somehow dominates over the shot pattern spread at that distance...>2ft or moreAgain show how that is the differential elevation error due to unknown distance.>>64957803>but why AND>solution looking for a problemIdk dude go back to your horse and buggy for all I care>>64957808>Carry your MP5k when you want something quiet and compact>Carry a 5.56 when you need distanceOr...or... you have a 300blk which does a bit of both. >>64957822Full size MP5 gets even more BTFO by a 8-9" 300blk. At least MP5k legitimately saves 2.5-4" or so. >>64957842I agree entirely. Love me MP5k simple as. Can't wait for Active Safety Designs ARHK drop in FRT pack. The raregreed one seems to work well. >>64957859A suppressor would have definitely helped attract less attention, and there are multitude of additional scenarios both historically realized and potentially in the future which might be similar to Kenosha where a "sound suppressor" (okay boomer/genX) would help. Also you do realize that metropolitan centers increasingly have shot mics all over the place? You think this is to stop crime? Give you a hint, they're planning way far in advance. >You allude to them Word that's just like your opinion man. Talk shop. >>64957863It is valid if the generalist or dual use firearm is significantly poor performing enough in its various roles, but in the case of 300blk the numbers don't lie. >>64957866Eh... 2.5s 1R1 with an AR 300blk, vs 4.5s maybe a 4.25s with an MP5... not to mention safety selectors, optics, platform precision, oh also 238-242gr 300blk subs legit BTFO 147gr 9mm subs in terms of energy...will cont.
>>64957819Mp5k kicks ass what are you talking about? Its tiny af and has zero recoil
>>64959514>zero recoilThis is you announcing you failed math and physics in school and believe video games are realistic. No firearm has zero recoil. .22 short has recoil, midwit.
>>64956483Curious
