/arg/ where's your ifv, anon?Previously, on brn4 vs 416>>65283741
First for fuck you guys.
miniature reconnaissance rifle?
I had a furry wife dream again
>>65288130As was predicted many threads ago, you simply won't make it without (light) armor in shtf.
>>65288359Post warehouse full of spare parts.
>>65288359post jp8 refinery and lubricant plant
Gen Z Boss and a Recce?
>>65288359Yeah bro and I own the fuckhueg router I run daily for GE too
Which will last longer, two nitrided button barrels back to back or a single CHFCL barrel?
>>65288359every day i miss the bradleynot the inferior marine ifv though
>>65288387The chfcl has the potential to last longer. I don't really care anymore since I found a nitride barrel I like. I'll just replace it when the time comes.
>>65288359Who cares, I'm not making it either way
Germany getting knocked out by Paraguay and Brazil defeating Japan? Next thing you know Mexican Batman will reveal himself
>supposed to be in stock a month agocam on griffin, make some fuckin lowers.
Reposting from last thread:My dad wants an AR for deer hunting in his straight wall cartridge state. Are there any 400 Legend ones worth a damn? He thinks 350 is underpowered and 450 is too much.
>>65288438Your best bet is to build it fo- with him.
>>65288368It probably runs on stale milk. I'm like 90% sure somewhere in the TM it says if you are desperate for gas try just shouting into the fuel tank.
>>65288444That's what I figured, he's a Fudd so frankly I'm surprised he even wants an AR. This is a birthday gift for him so hopefully he actually likes .400 Legend and I'm not gonna spend like $1000 building a gun he dislikes.
>>65288353I wish I could have one. How do I force myself one?
>>65288359Hmmm, looking mighty survivable there would be a shame if I>>65288387Depends on cadence.
how come when people think SHTF, they're not realistic about what that actually means?
>>65288544>why does his fantasy scenario not match my fantasy scenario?The world may never know.
>>65288544Because the fantasize and plan around the most engaging scenarios not the most likely>>65288538It should go without saying that the barrel comparison would be with all other things being equal so cadence doesn't matter
>>65288546Fantasy is the keyword here. Everyone here larps because they enjoy it and then retroactively assign importance to it after indulging our impulses.
>>65288494It seems to be a niche enough build that your few options will be lower tier companies like BCA. At least if you build it yourself you can maintain parts quality, as I sure as hell have never heard of "great lakes' as a manufacturer.>so hopefully he actually likes itDepending on the fudd/boomer level, he may or may not, but it's the thought that counts. I deal with the same shit.
>>65288558All larping is until it isn't, even if you get paid to larp. When you actually start getting shot at is when it stops being.
>>65288556Yeah so what is the cadence for the barrel test?What is the wear out criteria?
>>65288544Its a power fantasy for people without importance in their lives more than emergency preparedness. Rifle arping s Also incredibly pedestrian, who wants to fantasize about being a grunt?
>>65288570Dealer's choice, all other things being equal which will last longer? And if the cadence and wear criteria determine the answer, feel free to contribute insights rather than whatever this is
>>65288568It's not going to happen. If you don't enjoy it you are wasting your time.
>>65288578I get a sense of superiority from not enjoying things while others are having fun.
>>65288546>nonsense>>65288556>plan around the most engaging scenarios not the most likelySo this is /arg/ dress up? hah gay>>65288571eh. Say Ukraine happens to Idaho tomorrow; I feel like the situation in people's minds changes dramatically. Instead of being as kitted out as possible, a more realistic approach becomes priority.
>>65288544Because they lack access to armored vehicles.>>65288538Another ITX another "drone stuff next year".ARV might replace LAV-M with a Switchblade varient.
The most realistic larp scenario is shooting an intruder at night with whatever your evidence locker gun of choice is. Anything that involves team tickle fight tactics is never going to be applicable so just enjoy it. First aid skills, pistol proficiency, understanding how to use a Leatherman, and how to maintain and use everyday tools and machines will put you leagues more ready for life than going to TUSC or whatever
>>65288583I get a sense of superiority for enjoying myself when others aren't so I guess you could say I'm getting double the enjoyment since you have to actively be miserable to get that same sense
>>65288588Is being a reservist as would crushing as it looks
>>65288588Where there's a will
>>65288577Cadence plays a huge partNitriding increases the material hardness to a specific depth depending on who applied it. So the hotter the gun, the more both coatings are going to erode. Chrome being an additive process has more material to erode and properly chromed barrels are harder to erode under heat stress than nitriding. You can absolutely cook a nitrided barrel in a couple thousand rounds of spirited firing that a CHF/CL will just keep on keeping on through. You likely will never see that heat wear on something like a SPR youre slowly firing.Wear out criteria another important oneThroat erosion? Muzzle erosion? Dispersion at Xm with Y ammo over Z groups? Shit even the ammo choices impacts the wearout curve.What we can say for sure is that 2x chf/cl > 2x nitride and if youve got the ammo to wear out 1x of either you've got the money to buy a second chf/cl barrel.>>65288588>ARV might replace LAV-M with a Switchblade varient.Based but LAV-M is tuff anyway>>65288589You should seek to be a hammer, not an equal participant.
>>65288595>>65288586Anon it's a nipple wrench for removing the mercury fulminate percussion cap on percussion cap black powder rifles, fren.
>>65288584>nonsenseI don't know who you are quoting, but it ain't me.
>>65288610>seek to be a hammersee this is why you see a world full of nails, dumbass.
>>65288584>Say Ukraine happens to Idaho tomorrow>say something that could never happen in any remotely likely scenario in our lifetimethis is why I say larp is just larp. If you aren't having fun you should kill yourself
>>65288603>has hissy fit >refuses every attempt at remittance>meltie>kills himselfHonorary chud
>>65288610LAV-M is very badass, but I think the idea is excursions are going to be much hotter and shorter. Weapons platoon being a hyophetical 6 vics with drone/loitering munitions varient might be bloated. One scout is already slated to be a DO on each vic. LAV-25 has no where to put drones though so everyone sits on their hands and gets credentials while waiting for hardware.
>>65288600It's bretty great anon. Free pancakes and what not.
>>65288665how much do you make
>>65288610Speaking of Hammers a financial audit /k/ edition would be kino. Theres endless PSA customers out there.
>>65288646I understand him 100%. There is no peaceful solution to bureaucratic tyranny
>>65288681he was a spoiled cunt who dumped his waste on other people's property, blamed the local government for not paying to fix problems he was well aware of when he bought the property, harassed a local business, and overall acted very Jewish so maybe you should actually read what happened before you sound like a retarded fag. Only terminally online neets and children idolize him. Take responsibility for your own actions
>>65288677I would love to be fellated over my households finances.
>>65288672I pay ~$200 a month for comprehensive healthcare and between $5-$7k a year from drill as an E-5 GI bill is like $350 a month, works a bit different then active duty. Pretty good deal all around, I did about 60 days in uniform from last summer to this one.
>>65288701I make way more than 7000 a year
Is this modlite naturally compatible with the Larue QD light mount?
>>65288586It's a front sight tool to lower or raise your FS post. And an O ring.
>>65288727If it has a mount that can attach to the particularly spacing and diameter for the holes on the mount yes. Keep me informed I too am curious. Are you asking someone to measure their mount to figure out the spacing? I can do that before I go on a road trip without my calipers.
>>65288736That's not what it is you silly goose ~~~~I need to start collecting BCM man photos
>>65288715This fiscal year I'm going to probably bring home around $10,000 on account of me always volunteering for things. Bushmaster challenge, supporting other units at ITX, courses you can take... but just assuming you do your scheduled year of drill $5-$7k is about it.Unless you are an 18 year old boot everyone loses money going to drill. Free pancakes, at LEAST twice a year.
>>65288727Yes.
>>65288740It’s scout mounting pattern therefore it fits.
>>65288695>step away from the incompetent bureaucrats fucking you over ohhh gotcha I see. The town government side of the story is 100% factual and wholesome chungus because a bunch of corrupt colluding bureaucrats said that it is. I get it now, thank you for correcting my wrong think I know that governments never, ever lie and would definitely never ever never lie on the Internet especially.
I’m jewish btw
>>65288755It's more a story about a guy who should have hired a lawyer but decided to be fucking cool instead.
>>65288755we only have the facts as they're laid forth. In my opinion his documented actions speak far louder than whatever "words" are exchanged on either side. I truly don't know why you would defend someone so Jewish as to do shit like this.It's like that shopping cart theory except you're idolizing the guy ramming shopping carts into mini vans with his gut out.
>>65288767He not only got a lawyer, he whined to the EPA kek
>>65288623Not what I was going for, but based.>>65288662>ShorterYeah because DFwhateverthefuck is going to sink the resup and the marines will be eaten alive by the jungle before they need a rearm>>65288736>>65288750Excellent photos
We need another Marty but for flock cameras this time around.
>>65288130M27 or M27 RWK? Much to consider for the humble do it all
>>65288796I agree. If the real marty did something based like that I'd'nt care about his reasoning for crashing out
>>65288801Rwk obvs 4 gpr
>>65288806the feds would just make up a fake&gay cover up to slander you like they did to marty
>>65288813Nah because no one likes flock cameras whereas Marty did diddly shit for anyone outside his small town in colorado and idk if anyone in the town liked what he did either.
Just realized I should own a hammock
>>65288359Already have a Thiokol, would really like a wiesel but I doubt that'll ever happen>>65288796Don't forget the new RF vacuum devices sucking up BT broadcast packets, tpms and other various wifi/BT data leakage modern devices shit out
>>65288751If it fits it sits
>>65288830One step at a time.
>>65288772let me guess: you think the scribblings of some desert jews made 200 years after the death of Jesus are the direct words of God too?
>>65288740>>65288750>>65288751Thank you anons.
>>65288840what
>>65288811But the 16.5” M27 is a very capable SPR and IAR, making it one of the few true so it alls!
>>65288830https://modordnance.com/m240-m249-7-62-5-56-platt-swing-mount-mod-2/I mean...
>>65288852*do it alls
>>65288852>>65288862Too late
>>65288866Shut up, my correction was swift enough
>>65288882YOUR MISTAKE WAS THINKING YOU COULD UNDO WHAT HAS BEEN DONE
>>65288715Oh wow must be nice. Everyone look at Mr Moneybags over here.
>>65288901Grabs you and holds you upAnyway would you recommend a longer or shorter barrel?
>>65288727Is it scout pattern? I'm not going to look up what model that is so actually just kill yourself.
A department I know recently bought AR's and equipped them with suppressors and they've been having issues, primarily on range days where they're putting a lot of rounds through them and they get very dirty, sticky, hot, and begin to malfunction and jam. Now I hear they're only keeping their 30 round mags loaded with 28 to avoid additional malfunctions even at rest (clean and ready to be deployed). I've been thinking about buying an AR, what manufacturer and specs should I go with to avoid malfunctions or these aforementioned problems?
>>65288806Big boss once again taking the side of faggotry
>>65288715Couldn't be Fishy
mildratoast drippy why
>>65288946Geissele.
>>65288830Be careful with it you could lose your penis.
>>65288946>police>shooting their gunspick 1uhhhh flow thru can, adjustable gas block/bcg on a di gun or just get a piston gunand of course clean your gunmaybe roundmaxxx with hornady black, its supposed to be for suppressed guns i thinkso hk416/scar for pistonwhatever you want for di but swap for an adjustable block or adjustable bcgflow thru can like huxwrx or rc4
>>65288933It doesn't say scout on their website so that's why I was even asking.
>>65288946They're having these issues because they didn't get flow through suppressors.
>>65289070
>>65288782BASED ACOGThere's truly no better setup for 0-300 than a 10-12" with an ACOG firing HEAVY LOADS.
>>65289128>12"Just this one. Don't include the 10" cucks
>>65289128>There's truly no better setup*blocks your path*
>>65289128>12” Don’t do this one, worst barrel length by far
>>65289128BE ADVISED THIS POST HAS BEEN FACT CHECKED TRUE BY REAL AMERICAN PATRIOTS!!
>>65289145*walks over your corpse*gg no re
>>65289147>3000fps 855a1 is badWe taking bets if it'll delete a brown bear skull? I'm optimistic
>>65289165Compared to the other options yes it’s shit
Ads is faster with acog because it's lighter and there's no way to get an elcan't as light so therefore apples to apples the guy with the cog is drawing faster. Less likely to have fatigue from rucking wasted weight around. It just makes SENSE for the working man
>>65289167Elcan has less air resistance and a faster settle time due to its mass.While its true your stamina bar will burn down faster, its worth it since it wont move as much during recoil required to zero plates. Same reason to mount a UBGL.>>65289165>The 12" barrel evangelist with no chronographMany such cases
>>65289173Except your forget the acog's sail design was specifically designed to "Cut through air like wata" - John Biden of the Biden Aiming Concept.It doesn't matter bro because your stamina regenerates slower and the supreme court decided to airdrop 1000 squatemalan anchor babies in your area. Run.
>>65289167God damn those Tenebraex ACOG flash hiders are such ill-fitting, chinsy, cheap pieces of shit.
>>65289128Sold all my COGs and got an atacr 1-8x tbqh
>>65289182Yes I learnenet that hard way.
>>65289188you will not make it
>>65289166Works on my machine. Unless your loading fast powder, you're just venting to atmosphere going any shorter with 5.56. Not that I don't appreciate a large fireworks show.>>65289173>a2 isn't reloading nas3Not surprised t b h
>>6528919414.5” is better unironically, 11.5” is far better if you wanna keep it short
>>65288628idk bro the khokols down in Ada better watch their shit or Latah county is coming for they ass>>65288646if a soliciter comes to my door i would kill myself on the spot to inconvenience his day in any way possible>>65288695>>65288772the local government should have just eaten the cost to hook up the line,but he should have also compromised with them. Boomer's going to Boomer
>>65289205>14.5I can appreciate the heritage of slotting floppies and the utility of p&w>11.5 because reasonsHalf an inch is 35fps, and I've watched you go in circles about half an inch for hours like a woman. In the current regulatory framework, 13.9 is the best (308) cope length, obviously
>>65289208>local government should have just eaten the cost to hook up the linewhy?
>>65289221Idk I just don’t see the point to it besides wanting to be special and not getting le basic lengths
Always like 10.3 because you have a SMG sized gun you can take out to 500
>>65289194Wouldnt be 855a1 then if that was the case bud.>>65289241Fact check true>>65289221>13.9Retarded, cease
>>65289241The block II mk18 is interesting to me as it’s a 10.3” but with a socom profile barrel. What a little fucker, what does it need all that barrel for?
>>65289241>take out to 500Didn't the military abandon that length because it precisely wasn't working out to anywhere near 500?
>>65289247They abandoned it? I thought MK18s were still in inventory in the units that had them
I'm going to have so much fucking buyer's remorse when I buy my 5.5" .300 $900 shitrod upper. I'll probably want to kill myself over it. Anyways, is the Saker still good in 7.62?
>>65289250>the units that had themAren't those units using 6arc sprs now?
>>65289145I still haven't tried an elcan tbqhf.Why did they discontinue the OS4X? The DR seems kind of pointless - bulkier and (marginally) more fragile than a COG with worse QD (larue > arms) and the 1x feature is less useful than a piggyback dot anyway.Hard to see how it's better than a COG.>>65289147All differences in barell length between 10.5-12.5" or so are meaningless in terms of ballistics, all that matters is that your gas/buffer/etc is set up correctly.
>>65289252Idk they bought them but it’s kinda unknown as to what they’re actually using and in what quantities
>>65289243>it's not 855a1 because the case and powder charge changesVery odd position. I thought the important part was the projectile
>>65289247No it wasn't abandoned by any stretch of the imagination and it was never made to consistently engage targets at 500. It was made to maneuver easily when doing bullshit. 500 is the relative end of the envelope not the comfortable middle. Pretty sure even the spiciest load with a can would still hit trans sonic around 800 at sea level with a 10.3".
>>65289250>They abandoned it?I thought they did, that's why all the new programs including sigshit were being slowly integrated. >>65289262I see.
>>65289251What the fuck happened to you? Your builds were never high tier but this is shameful
>>65289270I acquired a full set of T-block utes + gortex top and its all just been downhill from there man.
>>65276125>>65277721Ended up snagging an FN m16a4 "collectors" edition at lgs the day I went in to pick up my garand. Thinking of putting an m4-d can over it and an lpvo
>>65288991What's your reasoning? >>65288998>>65289073The whole department shoots at least once a year (lol), the swat team regularly shoots them. I agree on getting a flow thru can but all the piston ARs such as the HK416 are super expensive...
Many years ago when I built my AR Aero was the go to for a cheap "justasgood" lower. But they're kill now, who took their spot?
>>65289296You don't need to get a piston. You can get a standard ass Geissele and as long as you have a flow through you won't gunk up your shit. You DO need to clean every once in a while however. Or get those enhanced BCGs that help out too. Overall, the can makes the biggest difference though.
>>65289296Well the new MR556A4 uppers can usually be had for under 2k, and ofc there’s the VENERABLE BRN-4
>>65289301I guess psa. Anderson went down too and in my area at least nobody has taken their place. All of the stores are out of lowers except for billet types and noveske. One has ruger lowers for $120 or something around there.
>>65289301Nonononononono
>>65289251For that application, I would be looking more at the Scythe STM rather than the Saker. The Saker is a fairly dated design at this point.>>65289255The Elcan 4x has a similar role to an ACOG, but with less reliance on fiber optics and fewer associated concerns.The Elcan 1x is comparable to the 1x performance people praise on optics like the Razor 1-6E and similar LPVOs. Functionally, the 1x is especially useful on machine guns, battle rifles, and similar platforms because you can stay firmly behind the optic with a forgiving eyebox. On a 5.56 rifle, it serves as another rapid aiming option that can be used without significantly changing your position.The 1x also performs well when shooting prone or from awkward positions where transitioning to a secondary offset dot or a stacked optic is difficult.Perhaps the biggest advantage of the 1x is its use with compact clip-on thermal imagers in the 18–25 mm class. The 1x provides a wide scanning field of view while still allowing a quick transition to 4x for identification and engagement. Being locked into 4x with something like an ACOG is much less flexible in that role.>>65289260It is not a military cartridge designation like M855A1 if it does not actually conform to the specification.>A 22-250 is m855a1 because it has an m855a1 projectile
>>65289346>Perhaps the biggest advantage of the 1x is its use with compact clip-on thermal imagers in the 18–25 mm class. The 1x provides a wide scanning field of view while still allowing a quick transition to 4x for identification and engagement. Being locked into 4x with something like an ACOG is much less flexible in that role.Hmm I can see that. RH25 has been on my shopping list for a while.
>>65289301Centurion, BCM, or Zev prolly. I'm thinking about phasing out my Aero M4E1 lowers over time now that parts kits are unobtanium. I'm sure I could figure out which set screws I'd need to replace the Aero ones if I needed to, but it just feels easier to go full milspec and never have to worry about my ability to find in-stock replacement parts if something breaks.
>>65289346>scythe stmFor quite maxxing? Ideally the .30cal can can be put to more serious application down the line, a .308. The fact its got modular features isn't inherently promising...
>>65289382>I'm sure I could figure out which set screws I'd needMcmaster carr is your friend
>>65289346I'd rather have a dedicated thermal upper than try to run it with an acog.
>>65289397The STM is effectively an Omega with the outer tube removed.>>65289366It is a very real capability, and the Elcan is one of the few optic configurations that enables it. When combined with its compact overall length, you can realistically run an Elcan, MFAL, and RH25 on a short platform without the setup running out of rail as one would have with an lpvo.>>65289405Sucks to carrySucks to employ
>>65289236they often settle in dumber cases where the claimant is clearly in the wrong, like a person dying in a crash going 70 in a 25 and suing the city for poor road design. its not correct, but its what happens when you are the governing body, so niggers dont do retarded shit like run through the town with a killdozer
>>65289411>Sucks to carry>Sucks to employI live in a house.
>>65289411Aight, I'm sold. I'm going to put an FRT in this thing.
>>65289411> I want the heaviest rifle possible
>>65289433Imagine if you willIf there was a way to quickly remove the thermal imager and use it in a handheld formfactor. We could call it a "Wilcox 61100G12-B" and it could be good>>65289419Why is it an upper and not a dedicated platform on a tripod?
>>65289441>Why>>65289336
>>65289441>Wilcox 61100G12-BI was more referring to:Elcan, MFAL, RH25, Supressor
>>65289441Imagine that rifle with an 11” rail and a 16.5” nefarious M27 barrel
>>65289450YesThe 61100G12-B lets you remove the RH25And then the rifle is lighterDo you need a sketch?>>65289455>Imagine a M27 with bad accessoriesI mean, why?
>>65289459Just the rifle, silly! Though what would be good accessories…
>>65289459>Do you need a sketch?yes please, I'm a little slow. This still sounds like a 11lb rifle.
New suppressor incoming. Jaguar by Buktek Fatty 7.62 Inconel Hub. 5" OAL no mount, 13oz weight no mount, aluminum end cap, inconel body and core. Rear section has an outer diameter of 2.2" and front section has an OD of 2.1" so pretty large diameter can. Very few reviews of it, but the 5.56 Fatty anecdotally (Rob Orgel) reviews well for at muzzle suppression comparable but louder than the Tisha and Rhodie 6. Excited because I haven't had a rifle suppressor for several months now. https://www.silencershop.com/jaguar-silencers-caf762-fatty-hub-inconel.html>>65289251>is the Saker still goodNoNothing SiCo currently makes is competitive IMO. Such is the weight of being an established bloated company. The Scythe STM is also not something I would recommend. I was considering it, but it has no inconel, just 17-4 stainless, is relatively high back pressure, and I don't believe the suppression is that aggressive. Overall it is a pretty sleepy can design that isn't much different at all for a whole host of similar medium length 5-6" or so medium diamter 1.6-1.8" or so 17-4 stainless trad baffle cans. >5.5" .300blkI would not go that short. 7" or maybe 6.5" is the shortest I would go for a 300blk, but even then.
>>65289346>its not 855a1 because it's just not, OK[HICAR HAS ENTERED THE CHAT]Curious to see what kind of mix they end up with, 842 is not enough juice for the squeeze they are targeting. With a slightly compressed load, it's still about 200fps off target. Rumor mill says nas3 is getting loaded even hotter than that, especially for a [REDACTED] 6 ARC projectile that hasn't seen the wild yet. That's pistol powder throat melting territory.
>>65289301FMK is the new plug brodie
Ash lurks while crying that his and cumhorts rifles will soon be taken.
>>65289618I believe this
>>65289424i mean he didn't communicate like a white man>>65289441you better remove that foregrip mister, it breeds bad habits!
ITS UP BLEM BROS
>>65289609I wonder if Hop can feel anything anymore if he's into Stallions.
>>65289634Website no work for me :(
>>65289642Just like last year
>>65289579My impression is that SiCo is very rugged dependable and has the best mounting system, but aren't hip to a lot of the new tech break throughs. I can live with that.What would Wuggy suggest?
>>65289651I had the safety I like bookmarked so I was able to load that. It's the only thing I want besides a barrel which I'm not spending the money on right now.
>>65288359I have a chevy and some sandbags >>65289634wtf why are the chuds launching a cyber attack
>the super duty blem stripped upper I want is available AIEEEE I cannot decide between that or the full upper with bcg.
>>65289655I wouldn't call them any more "rugged" than any other manufacturer per se. Which company manufacturers a suppressor does not intrinsically make a suppressor any more or less rugged than another. Manufacturing quality and basics of design aside, the primary factor in "ruggedness" is simply material selection, and the Scythe STM makes use of 17-4SS which while not as weak as Titanium, is absolutely not as strong as Inconel or Haynes 282 or Stellite. If you want a very durable suppressor, the most important consideration will be material, and you should go for something Inconel, Haynes 282, or Stellite. >best mounting systemHardly. ASR isn't terrible, but is far from the best. In my opinion, weighing all of the various factors, mount and muzzle device cost, length, weight, durability/longevity, reliability (locking up or not), user interface, ease of use etc etc, the YHM Kurz Ti and Kurz muzzle devices are "the best". >What would you suggestWhat are you looking for? 30 cal K can? 30 cal standard can?
>>65289685I can't get past the main page
>>65289634>website already brokenyep, its a g$ sale
>>65289688Once you get into the site it will load after a few tries. Here are some prices so you don't have to add things to your cart to see.
>>65289692not a bad price for upper/barrels but nothing too crazy. pretty good price on the blem super doody receiver/hans guard sets imoo
>>65289686I want a very quite .30cal for my LARP .300blk FRT build that is going to also be good on a future .308, which will not be mag dumping, possibly a bolt action.So I wasn't sweating it being steel at first glance, you induced that worry just now, and I'm wondering if I'm better off with a cheap high performance direct thread for the .300blk and a serious can for the .308.
>>65289692I'm gonna be 100%, if 400 bucks made or broke a build I'd be doing something else.
>>65289692>complete upper receiverThat's strange, I see none of those in the blem sale.
>>65289704It's on regular sale not blem. You have to look at all g$ products not the sale page.
>>65289708I see that now. Thanks for clarification.
The 11.5” upper and rifle are out of stock I hate my fucking life I wish I was dead
>Seeing all the goys foam at the mouth for the goy blem saleI bought some accessories and 10 pmags.
>>65289730the plural of goy is goyim, my fellow gentile.
>>65289750A lot of people here don't even know what a goy is, they use it wrong all the time.
>>65289750The older I get the more I agree with both Hitler and salty old Rabbi
>>65289750Yeah, probably. But I'm not a jew. Since we've now co-opted goy as the White man's word, we get to make up the plural. Das our word now nigga. You cayn say it.
Geissele sells rifles to the IDF btw
>>65289894>sells rifles to the IDF>gives them away for free to AFUbased, no wonder A2 hates Bill so much
Bill stands on the right side of history which is why I buy his rifles.
More blemmies? Yes please! I love the savings!
>>65289700>LARP .300blk FRT buildDo you intend to be able to train and run 300blk supersonic FRT? If so IMO Inconel/Stellite/Haynes282 is a must. >bolt action .308Very different platform, POU, and thus suppressor requirements than a .300blk LARP FRT build which I assume is supposed to be a shorter sort of bag/truck/PDW clandestine/direct action CQB gun? >wasn't sweating it being steelI would be sweating not only at 400deg F but also at 800deg F hyuk hyuk hyuk Picture related. Titanium is shit too, not to mention the spark signature. Not sure what you mean with words and phrasing like "cheap high performance direct thread" and "serious can". Everything should be POU driven. Can you articulate the different POUs for these two different setups you're envisioning? Quick off the top of my head, generally I think 17-4SS is fine for a bolt gun. I don't like that the Scythe STM doesn't have dedicated flash hiding end caps as far as I can see. There are TONS of basic trad baffle 17-4 SS .30 cal cans out there. The STM is certainly not a bad option in that space.
>>65289940Shut up retard.
>>65289940>super sonicNo.>POU for 5.5"Pretty much nailed it. Fantasy land POU for fun.>POU for .308I haven't figured that out yet, and I don't have a reliable range that gives me the sort of ranges to warrant it yet. Sort of why I was trying to future proof the can, or go cheap with direct thread for the .300.I'm sort of back where A2 pointed me at the moment, I quite like the SiCo muzzle devices and mounting system.
>>65289906Brown hands typed this
>Blrown blands blyped blhis
>>65289301I built mine off a limited engraved stripped receiver set, maybe 12 years ago, and I still like it and never had any issues.
>>65290023This is fishy actually trying to spell he isn’t being funny right now.
>>65290008>No supersonicWell shig in that case you seriously don't absolutely need inconel. Good 17-4 SS will likely be fine. That actually opens up a TON of options for you, and allows for a single can to work for both the clandestine/PDW 300blk subs only gun, and the 308 bolt gun. Even for subs only I would really suggest going with a 7" barrel. At 5.5" you're really leaving a bit of bullet energy on the table. The Scythe STM actually wouldn't be a bad call for you IMO. The modularity is actually quite nice in your case. The short configuration will be well paired with the 300blk sub PDW/CQB build and the long config will pair well with the 308 bolt gun. My complaint is just the cost then. The STM is going to be $800. There are LOTS of basic trad baffle 17-4 SS 30 cal cans $500-$650 that will perform similarly, minus the modularity. Liberty Precision Anthem for example. But there are tons of others, I just don't know off the top of my head because I've only really been keeping an eye out for Inconel cans. >Fantasy land POU for funI would just own it dude. Also it isn't that fantasy land at all, in my opinion. Having a quiet clandestine capable PDW/CQB gun has pretty obvious uses. Scythe STM is a fine choice IMO. I do not like ASR at all. YHM Kurz Ti is shorter, lighter, cheaper, simpler, and stronger IMO. The ASR doesn't even "lock", you can beat the locking collar by just cranking it off.
we just train to be proficient at engagements <300m. Simple as.
>>65290060You and me both brother. If the engagement is >300m, I'm just going to make like the slants and dip into the forest. Simple as.
>>65289692Man PA really helped nail the coffin shut on the blem sales huh? Bills site was just as buggy but you could get complete rifles for under 1k.
>>65290046>I would just own it dude.I'm not intrinsically against the idea that a PDW style weapon/compact CQB platform has a right to exist, only that it's a poor investment and resource sink for myself and most people. I'm doing it because I think it will look and feel rad at the cost of not spending this two grand on a course or drone or whatever. You've succesfully socratic methoded me into what I think is a reasonable check list of features to look for. I'm not pulling the trigger on this any time soon. Will post here before I commit to anything.
>>65290063I'm just gonna go home
>>65290102>only that it's a poor investment and resource sinkmy 7.5" smol AR fits perfectly inside a Jansport-sized normal backpack with all its attachments and 6 magazines. Break it apart into its two halves and even better. Now I went with a heavier 8" SOCOM type barrel so well see how mobile it still feels after the mods. I think that is its main appeal: its versatile concealable footprint yet still retains lethality for 5.56 at close-distance warfare. I believe concealable arms/PDW will be the meta of the near future
>>65290116I also enjoyed my 8.5 300 African American storage
>>65290102>poor investment and resource sink for most peopleEhh. Honestly right after your basics, CCW, basic 5.56 carbine, full size sidearm etc. I think a quiet subsonic capable PDW/CQB thing for use in clandestine manner either defensively or "offensively" is actually a pretty reasonable priority. Most of us live in genuinely urban or suburban environments, with shorter sightlines, in and around buildings and vehicles. The most simple and obvious real example use cases are Kenosha where the audible sound of unsuppressed supersonic 5.56 brought a YUGE crowd quickly, and Luigi Mangione where there is little doubt the relative low signature of his weapon system helped him to evade on the timescale he did. A well tuned 300blk sub AR is also geuinely super fun to shoot IME and IMO. That being said courses and drones are very important too. >list of featuresYeah given that you're doing subs only I'm confident that you don't need inconel and that 17-4 SS will do just fine. Lots of options which is a nice place to be in. I've been agonizing over the lack of 30cal K sized Inconel cans for a hot minute now. Just pulled the trigger this morning on the Jaguar Fatty 762 Inconel, so I'm stoked, but it took a lot over the past 6-12 months not to just buy one of the many 5" long 17-4 SS .30cal options. >>65290116Please don't tell me you built a 7.5" 5.56 gun>I believe concealable arms/PDW will be the meta of the near futureI strongly agree but would want to modify the statement as>I believe concealable arms/PDW with low visible and auditory signature will be the meta of the near future
>>65290145>IME and IMOwhen the essay gotta be 1000 words and you're at 998
>>65290145>subsonicNone of this nonsense
>>65290145I truly appreciate the lack of "in minecraft" in your posts, it's refreshing to hear it spelled out like an adult would. Maybe my little, forgive the phrase, range toy will in fact live up to my highest expectations.
>>65290185I was planning to do exclusively this nonsense.
>>65290145>Please don't tell me you built a 7.5" 5.56 gunits fun to shoot brother, what do you want me to tell you
>>65290225He wants you to DIE
VIRAMONTES
>>65290225he wants you to tell him that using airsoft parts on a fake lr300 is actually really cool and based
>private range bans FRTs because "you'll shoot over the berm!">zero reason to own this meme machine now
>>65290278I'm glad my local range is based. If they want to make money, they don't really have a choice, because there's tons of BLM land everywhere; but I don't mind paying the $10 for the day. Plus they give you a target.
>>65290291yeah unfortunately my state is 99% farm so all the flat land fit for making a gun range on is surrounded by farms and farmhouses.
I took such a massive shit my anus started bleeding due to microfissures, I felt like I was on the edge of blacking out and I clogged the toilet.What AR15 brand best encapsulates these feels?
>>65290326I feel you. I have hemorrhoids. Went to the Dr. and got some steroids for it. Helped for about a week, and now they're back. I guess the next step is ass surgery.
>>65290326been telling you dummies about psyllium husk for years now
>>65290278>>private range bans FRTs because "you'll shoot over the berm!"fudds, the lot of them. Just look for a cooler range.
I just dropped a BCM in the toilet.
>>65290262if its useable enough for Tyrone, it tracks
>>65290334>Just look for a cooler range.there really aren't any in the area, and i refuse to go to a range further than an hour away. besides the no-auto rule its honestly a great range and usually not crowded.
>>65290340soulless eyes
>>65290046>Also it isn't that fantasy land at all, in my opinion. Having a quiet clandestine capable PDW/CQB gun has pretty obvious uses.NTA but this is the second firearm people should own after a compact pistol for practical purposes. Both of the same caliber. The PDW shouldnt have oal collapsed/folded over 16 inches.
>>65289450as you orderedI will say, I generally like the ACOG better
>>65290092I remember their uppers used to be about the same price as the brownells dd.
to my fellow cuck staters, what are you looking forward to most when the bans are lifted?for me, it's drilling out the mag lock on my first AR
Schizo Cabron. Where are you? I have questions.
>>65290519I got all the ARs I need, but I am going to finally get some OD green Pmags to match my build once the magazine bans are lifted, shit's gonna be so cash.
>>65290544He's too busy installing flock cameras in the alaskan wilderness.
>>65290550God, I couldn't imagine living in a shit hole. I just ordered 10 pmags last night, and they'll just show up at my door.
>>65290553Yeah it's pretty annoying, on the bright side it's probably one of the best looking parts of the country (PNW) and this week's high is only 72 degrees instead of 110 if I still lived in AZ. Nice to be able to shoot year-round instead of just the half of the year when you don't need to be within 15' of an A/C to survive.
>>65290140Cool dog.
>>65290563lol you moved to exactly the right place.
>>65290333nta but I bought a bag of it off Amazon. Gonna snort the whole thing. Took a huge dump a day ago and my butt still hurts. How do gays do it
I still want a 8.5" 5.56 gun.Mainly because I dont gave to have to pay for a 300 blk can.
>>65290581>You know that caliber that gets better with a longer barrel? Yeah let's do the exact opposite of that!
>>65290581>want to have to pay*>>65290585Yeah
>>65290185>>65290205Subs absolutely have a purpose, and 300blk subs beat 9mm subs and .45 by a significant margin as compared directly, and also when you consider the broader platform and system capabilities, overall size of platform aside. >>65290201>lack of "in minecraft"Shot spotter and similar systems are only becoming more and more common. While I think we're still a ways away from AI trained subsonic suppressed firearm signature detection algorithms applied to those devices, you can't beat physics regardless and reduced signature and report will be harder to disentangle from the noise no matter what you do. Minimizing or eliminating response time from ill intentioned official or non-official actors is a valid POU. >>65290340I hate this fucking piece of shit so much god damn>>65290225>Fun to shootIn what world is it fun to shoot a 7.5" 5.56 gunThe concussion and report even with a can are straight dumb.
>>65290587You’re stupid!
>>65290600>YHM mini QD mountHell yeah. Ratchet noises for the win!
>>65290600>In what world is it fun to shoot a 7.5" 5.56 gun>he doesnt know
>>65290578true we needed more retarded jeets here
>>65290574Thanks
>>65290619Nuh uh.
>>65290652>trigger discipline, doesn't muzzle swipe cameramanat least theres that, he had no earpro like an idiot
>>65290652>green tipthis is why you don't use level 3
>>65290046no way wuggy got an lr-300, how'd a nitwit like you get so tasteful?>>65290201um, i dont want any kind of violent speech on my modern sporting rifle general, okay?>>65290278>brace on de fucking machinegunalso shoot on public land>>65290333my ass still leaks blood after years of continual psyllium capsules daily
>>65290811carbon your ass leaks because of what you do with those dogs it has nothing to do with psyllium
>>65290145Just skip all that bullshit and do this with a hybrid or flow through. Anything else with that short of system is going to be a journey in cordite seasoning>>65290544Installing new floors>>65290821I add psyllium for it's testicle plastic clearing properties, don't have an issue with rectum ravaging
>>65290304Iowa? What range, I'll make sure to not spend money there.>tfw family land to shoot on but FRTs would draw unwanted attention from the neighbors
>>65290827>testicle plastic clearing propertiesWere you worried about the dogs microplastic intake?
>Psyllium Husk>Sillyum Husky>Silly yummy husky>Suck dog cockWDHMBT
Does HKey exist just to swindle yuros for more contract gibs?
>>65290503my complete sd upper was $756 after tax and shipping. its been impossible to get excited about the "sale" prices ever since.
Since I mainly shoot suppressed these days, I'm thinking of selling off my sad collection of PSA 10.5" and 16" uppers to fund an exclusively suppressed duty-rated upper. Can I get some feedback on:>11.5" or 12.5"?>agb or standard?>quad rail or mlok?Right now I'm eying the BCM MK2 11.5" MCMR as a frontrunner, but goddamn if $820+ theft, shipping, and no charging handle doesn't sound expensive. Any other better options worth looking at? I don't necessarily have a "budget" but just looking to get the best suppressed performance mixed with reliability.
>>65291371DD MK18 is on sale at Brownells right now, $675 shipped with code "MRGUNSNGEAR"
>>65291378Sounds like a good deal, but it's a 10.3", though.
>>65291396yes
>>65291396And thats a good thing
>>65291371>pls buffman sell your premium product at a losslike marky mark larue said, work a few more hours of overtime heh
@A2 what da hell is dis?
>>65291593That's a gun.
>>65291371Not cheaper but Gmoney has a 12.5 for a little bit more money that comes with CH and BCG. Again, not cheaper though.
>>65291593FN realizing XCR anon was right all along.
Considering buying the Geissele mod1-a 300blk pistol. In DDC for an extra $200 it seems. Is there anything cheaper that's justasgood or do I just grab this?
>>65291687Only other one I could think of is CMMG.
>>65291696I'll have to look into them. I know CMMG exists but the only time they are ever mentioned its during a review on their product. Never something like, "Oh CMMG has great stuff, definitely look into them"
40% off at Modlite btw
>>65291718They're not used in any military capacity as far as I'm aware so they're not really talked about as much as brands like G$, DD, KAC, etc. They must be making enough money and selling enough product because they keep putting out new stuff. People say their quality is fine and I'm sure that in a scenario where you would need them for life or death they would work perfectly fine. They just don't carry the >the army uses thispedigree is all. Neither does PSA or BCA and people buy them in droves - I've also heard that CMMG's QC is higher. I personally would go with Geissele but don't let my choice influence you too much and do your research tfor which is better for you.>>65291726No, dammit I thought I was going to get my CC free. Where?
>>65291731Modlite garage sale on their website. A lot is sold out though
>>65291726Just ordered another PLHv2 head thanks
>>6529137111.5"I would go with a standard gas block. Gas block based adjustments are generally a bit finicky. Even the best of them like Riflespeed and Superlative Arms can have issues. Your best bet IMO is to get a moderate back pressure can like the Rhodie 6, and tune with buffer weights and springs, or an adjustable carrier like the Bootleg. I've had both Superlative Arms adjustable gas blocks and Bootleg adjustable carriers on a variety of builds, easily close to 20k rounds through various combinations of those systems, and I like the Bootleg more for quickly swapping between suppressed and unsuppressed. I imagine the Riflesneed does decently well also though at this point, but IMO unless you carefully plan stuff out, access to the adjuster can be complicated by rail and accessory selection. >quad rail or MlokMlok for sure for something modern and practical. Quad if doing some sort of clone or clone inspired. The weight savings are real. >BCM Mk2 11.5" MCMRExcellent choice especially if it is their cold hammer forged chrome lined barrel option. >>65291687Why the fuck is anyone buying Giessele anything in 2026 is beyond me. Fuck that dumb gay fat fuck. Fuck his dumb shitty overpriced products.
>>65291371I would go 11.5. 12.5 is at a weird spot between gas system lengths and doesn't feel much different than something like a 14.5. With none of the upsides of 14.5 (like being compatible with various reticles/ACOG/dope charts). I honestly think 12.5 shouldn't exist. A 14.5 with an inconel Tisha or Rhodie 6k on a recessed mount will be the same OAL as a 12.5 with a classic suppressor.
>>65291751Dang, Thank you though anon.
>>65290600They do notThanks>>65290278They saw how lame it was and immediately banned FRTs to deal with that>>65291786Really should get all that off the ground desu>>65291593Contracts stipulating "Rifle must have forward assist and rear T handle" as a way to say "WE WANT AR15 VARIANT".FN chasing this game by offering it.
>>65291842Brassfacts has assured me it is a vain game to make subs and supers work in a .300blk and literally the MP5 or stubby AR are the only game in town for locking bolt CQB gat.
>>65291842>They saw how lame it wasevery time you post some kind of faggotry I think "ok, now this is the gayest possible thing a trip could post" but somehow you keep surprising me with something even gayer
>>65291871They dont allow FRTs at airsoft matches so A2 cant benefit from one.
>>65291853>vain game to make subs and super work in a .300blkYou absolutely can build an AR15 that can run both reliably, but it will be rather overgassed with supers suppressed, and it won't cycle subs without a suppressor, IF you don't set up some sort of adjustable system. You absolutely can build a 300blk that will fire subs suppressed and supers both suppressed and unsuppressed reliably AND with a decent recoil impulse for all configurations IF you get into gas, mass, and sproing adjustments, of which there are many options and routes. The question is what sort of ease do you want for your gas adjustment. Out of the box right now, and while I haven't tried it, the Riflespeed seems like the best course of action to get an AR15 that can shoot both 300blk subs and supers (suppressed subs, supp and un-supp supers) with good reliability and recoil impulse via easy "on the fly (relatively speaking)" gas adjustment. It has been almost 9 months in the works now but I've been trying to adapt a custom valved Innovate Arms two position W.A.R. adjustable gas upper receiver to act as a subs/supers 300blk switch. Picture related. Custom machined reverse engineered valve parts arrived a while back. I've been waiting on a 30cal suppressor to complete the project, and that now is incoming.>>65291786>orders of magnitude more ammo than foodWhere are your 3-4x IBC 300gal water container cubes and rain collection, filtration, and storage setup?
>>65291871tripfags and thread personalities exist in two states of being, decent contributors (but never above decent) or the gayest most faggotry imaginable. This time was the latter.
>>65291853Its totally possible.The broader issue is that the 300blk of specsheets doesnt exist>Ballistics of a 16" barrel>Overall length of a 5" barrel>Suppressor performance of the 9">Suppressor length of the 5">Reliability of the supersonic>Gassing to cycle subsonicsYou simply come across people ceding utility in these platforms to make them actually work. By the end of it they end up with something that doesnt resemble the original promise.>>65291871Magfed shit will never ever be coolShort barrel magfed is embarrassing
Trust fund kiddie being a trust fund kiddie. Why not go into an actual richfag hobby like planes?
>>65291896I'm on a well with a diesel generator. Also assfacts tried the riflespeed on 300blk, apparently it's shit. 300blk sbrs are ridicously dirty and it makes the gas block seize in a few hundred rounds. On 556 and 308 it's okay. Mine has been fine, but I move it whenever I'm bored, so it never seizes.
>>65291908A2 is heavily into drifting
>>65291775Well I am looking for alternatives if you've got any recommendations. Lower doesnt need to be full ambi, but I'd like a right side bolt release
>>65291304No, they just do that to civilians for some reason. Their rifles are really really nice
>>65291944He doesn't have any actual legit reasons other than some years old pictures from reddit and because A2 told him so
>>65291426>>65291438Why?
>>65291909>riflespeed>seizeI have legitimately never seen anyone report that their riflespeed has seized.
>>65291956Because 77gr
>>65291906Okay, but by sticking to subs I am now free to minmax for reliability, OAL, and signature reduction right? >Pistol terminal ballisticsSure, but I don't see a way around that in the slightest.What is A2's Splintercell AR build?>>65291896>all that adjustable this and thatSort of circling back to just being better off with 11.5/10.3 5.56 if we aren't doubling down on the shorter barrel length and suppression .300 offers right?
>>65291975Plenty of units adopt 10.5 300 black uppers. It would still work.
>>65291969But reliability and gassing, also 11.5”
Should I get an 11.5 upper with a FSB?
>>65292012No that’s stupid unless it’s one of those cool car-15 uppers
>>65292012yeah
>>65292012No. Front sight takes up too much space, not much room for handguard.
>>65291975>Okay, but by sticking to subs I am now free to minmax for reliability, OAL, and signature reduction right?Yeah you can throw an overbuilt 9mm can on it like an omega 9k or similar , put an adjustable gas block and let it seize in place sincelolwhocares and generally have a functional platform>I dont see a way around thatHeavier bullets?An acceptance that subsonic ninjaguns are not very useful>What is A2's1200rpm of 9mm>>65292012No unless what this guy said >>65292017
Who's getting the new Colt red dot
>>65292012No. FSB is suboptimal. You don't need a front site, you need a T2, a COG, an ElCan or an LPVO.
>>65292017Its a Colt 6933 police trade-in
>>65291426redpill me on why 10.3 is better than 10.5.>pic related, a 10.5
>>65292061It's shorter. You take .2" off the barrel and add it to your optic riser (1.5 -> 1.7"). That's free realestate.
>>65292061No one has actually elaborated on why 10.3 is good at all so my guess is simply that it’s the length the DS mk18 is, which is considered pretty good by all accounts
>>6529206110.5 guns are generally made by lower quality manufacturers.
>>65292080DD*Oops!
The Brazil x Japan Twitter shit flinging is incredibly entertaining
What do you gents think of her AR style?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M87WjKHFoXI
>>65292096I don't give a shit, fuck off.
>>65292132My what a lovely deep voice you have, my dear
>>65292096>have you guys been keeping up with social media!?!?
>>65292136Fuck you.
>>65292143>>65292134Not my problem you can't have international fun
>>65292153I come here to feel superior to chuds socially
>>65292143I'll never understand people that willingly choose to be miserable
>>65292160Yeah, like trannies trying to spread their yt channels.
>>65292166Me? I focus on what I like not what I dislike
>>65292169Girl on the right was so destabilizing some people willingly voted to destroy Pax Americana
>>65292160The misery chose me
>>65291896>>65291853>>65291906Honestly dunno why you guys are fretting over this, the blackout problem was solved over a decade ago
>>65292196 Oh cool, does that work well with a suppressor?
>>652921974 of those are suppressor settings
>>65292202Which do you typically use with your suppresor?
>>652922031 or 3 depending on the can and load
>>65292035>No unless what this guy saidYou always say people should have a light simple M4gery. Why not something just a lil shorter
>off by one>>65292223>>65292223>>65292223>>65292223>>65292223
>>65292153fuck off to /soc/. I fi wanted to read your retarded shit I would go there.
>>65291362That's a fantastic deal, it would be hard to get me excited too after knocking it out of the park.