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genuinely what does effortmaxxing even look like?
hard mode: you cant mention food or hygiene
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>>42312846
no shes not. she said in a post before that she received brain damage from a car accident with a truck. i dont think she can mentality handle advice
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>>42312871
that counts as trolling
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>>42312879
i mean i guess it could? idrk what shes thinking in her head but clearly shes not mentality there. so i assume she is just mentally ill and not trolling
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>>42312846
>insults my hair and calls them dreads
>advice
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>>42312892
most trolls are mentally ill wdym

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What would you whisper to the boymoder ashamed of her boobs as you take her boymoder bra off. If I'm feeling self conscious and wanting to hide from you.
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>>42310372
real boymoders don't wear bras because we're male and don't need to hide our gyno. If you wear a bra you're a girlmoder
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>>42312852
>and don't need to
bras make me feel sexy and cute while getting dicked down
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>>42312865
agp
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>>42312896
ok

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eyebrow plucking, makeup and laser are the /tttt/ equivalents of telling incels to get a haircut and take a shower
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>>42309932
those and saying to eat
beauty / passing is only about bone structure
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I pass just fine without makeup
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>>42309932
youre retarded if you think theyre equivalent. eyebrow and laser especially can take you from non-passing to passing.
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>>42309932
trvke
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>>42309985
lol ur a retard. theres a reason ppl tell u to eat

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>>42309940
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>>42312849
That's nice dear.
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>>42312816
They realize they future is in a gulag and so they get scared and defensive
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>>42312836
wow you work for Ice?
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>>42312885
lol
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I would join ICE but I'm not reliable enough to be an employee
do they let people volunteer with ICE?

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uqaxj0LA1Uc

post your feminized voice. dont be weird to us
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https://voca.ro/15YbZDjKWmun
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I fucking love listening to mtfs speak...
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>>42312626
if nothing else, nona, you do have a very pretty voice...i'm sorry you're having these thoughts. i know that doesn't mean anything but it breaks my heart. much love to you. i hope androgyny treats you well.
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>>42312638
you have to tell us which ones. this doesn't make us happy if you just say it as a blanket statement but you could make a few of us very happy if you picked some of us out.
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>>42312770
Ok
These are my favorites in no particular order
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>>42308569
>>42309275
>>42309894
>>42307188
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>>42301396
>>42310798
Some of these are probably the same person I'm sorry I just came into the thread earlier to see how the voices were doing. I want the above mentioned girls to have a podcast for me to sleep to.

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Is it possible to develop a female self as a cis man?
I'm certain that being a cis man is a sinking ship for me, and that I will be sure to live an empty and depressing life as one, so I need to be able to make being a woman work if I ever want to be happy, even though I am a cis man.
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>>42312632
You can only repress if you don’t know. Actively choosing to repress is suppression not repression.

Like all those rightoid dudes into fitness and acting manly and shit who don’t realise how gay they’re being. If they knew they’d be trying to push it away, but repression means they find an “outlet” and don’t realise what they’re doing.
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>>42312579
this is how repressors talk about themselves lmfao
real men don't see being a man in this way -- like, a basic fact of life sure, but not restrictive or painful. masculinity can be restrictive, but men who dislike gender roles still see themselves as male comfortably. what you're describing is discomfort with the concept of being male, which you also see as an inescapable law of nature. imo this is deep-seated gender dysphoria and not a genuine cis male identity. i think you should see a therapist whether you transition or not
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>>42312491
being miserable as a man is what dysphoria is
as a woman your life would not be all that measurably different. if it were, it would most likely be worse, especially as a trans woman. the idea that being a woman would be enough to fix you is one of two things: a sign of gender dysphoria or a sign that you are projecting your issues (financial, personal, whatever) onto something that you feel you can't control. realistically, though, the fact that you're specifically using your gender for this is still a sign that it's dysphoria-related.
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>>42312810
>or a sign that you are projecting your issues (financial, personal, whatever) onto something that you feel you can't control.
nta but this is a persistent worry for me
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>>42312862
have you tried

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>mid 30s
>on hrt for a couple of years
>dysphoria due to agp/porn addiction from a young age
>complete failure professionally and socially
>never had sex
>face that wouldn't pass with ffs
>zero desire to transition
>miserable as a man but can't be a stealth trans woman which is the only outcome that could make life bearable
>ashamed of every facet of my being

struggling to see the point in staying alive
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>>42312332
Are you against honmoding?
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>>42311775
Me too but that’s cause it too close to home, you can’t fight what you are you just like… are. Lots of people who are kinda neurotic and introverted kinda hate themselves or things about them it’s pretty normal really.
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>>42311775
i think you should open your mind. the alternative is the status quo which is clearly miserable and stagnant
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>>42311679
im younger than you but i can see myself ending up like you

i really fucked my life up by dropping out of school and just isolating myself for a long time. its so sad, i probably could have been a trans woman if i took it seriously
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>>42312874
It's either man or non passing tranny freak. I'll take the former

Look I'm a man with a mental illness that makes me want to be a woman. I take estrogen.

But I'm not deluded enough to think that women's clothes or makeup are going to make me or anyone else think I'm a woman.

Please enlighten me.
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>>42312388
Why is being a social pariah better?
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>>42312355
The dysphoria tied to being perceived as male + male privilege and camaraderie (as someone who’s seen as a straight cis man when im not wearing makeup despite only liking men) is the obvious factor for me. Also just being fed up, I listened to all the manmoding bullshit for years here and became a hateful bitter wreck. I (at least think I) matured with therapy and let myself transition mentally in the last year or so so an urge to socially transition came naturally. I don’t have anyone supportive in my irl life still and it hasn’t been going great so far with strangers but I’m doing what I can right now and I’m planning on moving to a more tolerant area soon and maybe cutting contact with a few people. Look, not passing fucking sucks but even if I did do you think I want to transition? It’s something I have to do to help my stupid mental illness and help my dysphoria so why not power through it and do the best I can? Also I’m only 22, maybe I’ll pass in future who knows? I get not wanting to honmode personally but if you can’t understand others doing it I think you’ve got some serious mental maturing to do.
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>>42312704
Good advice nona
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>>42312704
I just don't understand how presenting yourself in a way where others would only refer to you as a woman out of pity helps in any way
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>>42312355
And the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

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>late twenties tranny
>got to settle down with a betabuxx chaser now
>didn't even get to ride the cock carousel in my youth
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I'm personally glad I never whored out. I'd be ashamed of myself if I did
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forcefem her
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>>42311326
>>didn't even get to ride the cock carousel in my youth
it isnt worth it nona

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makeup edition
qott: do you do your makeup? how often?
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waiting on rainbow cake delivery for dessert yummy
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i just assume lia has extreme dysphoria
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or just loves bragging
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I can do makeup but I usually don't since I look decent without it, at most I'll put on some blush
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>>42312769
>>42312773
iv got it bad over my brow ngl
>brag
if i were some ethot i could understand this position but im a fuckin mile away from that
acting like im a youngshit hyperpassoid
ridiculous

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Where's the fat distribution and softness? Does hrt not work the same for them?
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>>42312503
help :(
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>>42312620
I dont
Jesus fuck
I absolutely hate myself
From my skin down to my soul.
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>>42312607
nope! i give up. and thats okay
not everyone can have a successful transition
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>>42312648
so youll stop posting threads about it then?
>>42312335
>once they gain fat
kek anna is too brain damaged to do that
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>>42312842
ya

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>big twitter account posts horny Hunter Schafer bait pic
>world war 3 ensues in the comments between chasers, trannies, normie chuds and TERFs

what do you think about Hunter being the most famous #1 tranny mascot in the world? I kinda wish Alex Consani would take that spot, she passes way better and has less haters
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>>42312799
literally has the phenotype of an above average female nerd
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>>42312793
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>>42312799
>>42312821
her cis sisters aren't any better lol
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>>42312861
trannies who have multiple sisters always pass the best...
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>>42312793
Alex cosani talks like she’s from the ghetto even tho she’s some white girl from a well off family she could never be the mascot for trans women she’s just too problematic

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How to get a tranny like this?
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>>42312819
its just a dress bro.. buy the dress.
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>>42312838
? I don’t want to look like that
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>>42312853
i meant buy the dress for your tranny gf (that you cant ever get) you retard
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You woo me, anon....

im 19 and im really scared is it too late
like and transitioning is really scary its like a whole life change im really scared chat idk what to do i need help pls help me pls pls pls
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>>42311243
they mean avoiding sunlight, using sunscreen, good skincare, staying very lean and thin and just generally slowing down aging
anyways troon now instead of 5 years from now cause
>>42311207 is right
the longer you rep the worse it gets when you do actually troon (i think some people are capable of repping but if you're here on this board posting shit like this it's already over for you)
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>>42312208
I'm probably capable of repping, bad dysphoria waves only hit yearly generally, but I start soon, I'm just finding whatever can help because life has forced me to start very late, thankfully I am lucky enough to be able to afford ffs in the future

also if my posts are annoying sorry, I haven't lurked here at all, I just had a really bad wave the other day and I can finally do it and I'm kind of jumping in, this board seems very different to other boards
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>>42312775
Definitely start. I'm rooting for you.
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>>42312781
Thanks anon
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>>42312775
>I'm probably capable of repping, bad dysphoria waves only hit yearly generally
i dunno, if you're at the stage you're getting hit by waves of dysphoria like that i'd argue it's real enough you are swimming in it but have learned to disassociate from it enough that it only bubbles up at times
the problem is that it doesn't actually go away and for people who know what it is and know what they are, it just gets worse with the passage of time. definitely start hrt soon if you can, there's just no real reason to continue repping generally if you're already at the stage where you know you're gonna end up trooning
i hope you make it anon

Hey guys. I just see a lot of people online who are bitter about being a virgin/not having a partner. In my case I think it may be because of my relationship to solo-sex/AGP and porn. I have kissed a few girls and have had opportunities to have girlfriends and sex but for whatever reason, I never pursued those paths. I guess I never really felt worthy of having a partner or love, always thinking I need to become better than I am before I am loveable as a person. I am not bitter about my situation and I don't hate the world or anyone because of it. AGP is annoying but not interfering with my life in any meaningful way outside of sexuality and arousal, no dysphoria, no HRT, no crossdressing, no IRL-activities related to it - I am still just a guy with a fetish. Sometimes some lingering feelings similar to "homesickness", a wistfulness, to be a graceful, serene, kind woman is there but no strong emotions. I also "know" that for me personally it's only the sexual kink spilling over into identity, because AGP can be insidious. Also, im oldge (30) and probably a decent looking man so I don't hate my body, even if my brain thinks a female form would probably be preferable.
I just wanted to share with you guys, that there are people like me out there too. Not everyone becomes hateful because they haven't been loved and neither do you :)
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>>42307550
i wouldnt call you agp at all, i think you are just alone and trying to find some "connection", thats it.

i also had very healthy hetero relationships with women but also have agp and a desire to be a woman/feminine or whatever you want to call it. mine does not cause dysphoria or self-hate, at least in my case, probably because i am a highly functioning person (at least i beleive that i am). i learned how to keep it a secret as much as possible, though did share it in some select special cases. i did try several things like crossdressing and mild irl-activities but i never thought about hrt, because in the end i also enjoy being a man too.

thanks for reading my blog
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>>42311909
I have no dysphoria though and I don't hate being a man. My brain just thinks it would like a female body more because of AGP. That doesnt mean my male body causes me any distress. Also, being a guy has its perks too.
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>>42311779
Why would you think I have dysphoria?
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>>42311920
I am glad you can manage it so efficiently Anon :)
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>>42311920
Also why do you not think I have AGP when I get aroused by the idea/thought of having sex as a woman with a man? And erotica/pornographic content related around that? Isn't that literally what Agp is?


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