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Appealing to the Male Fantasy

QOTT: What is your male fantasy?

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>>42151540
I do frequently i want her to femdom me.
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>>42149707
Being an isekai/shonen anime protagonist with bro, he mentioned it first and I already knew that shit would slap. Might be corny but we were born on the cob.
>>42161740
TRVKE, racism is the icing on the cake
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>>42165930
>TRVKE, racism is the icing on the cake
Finally someone who understands
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is knees by injury reserve an ftm song

>Knees hurt me when I grow
>And that's a tough pill to swallow
>Because I'm not gettin' taller
>Please, is there any way I could grow, please?
>My knees hurt when I grow
>And that's a tough pill to swallow
>Because I'm not getting taller
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i need dick

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>two years on HRT

So much can change in such little time . . .
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>>42167311
You look the same
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>>42167353
nta but they look very diff to me?
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>>42167311
She looks different but she should trim her eyebrows they are not helping

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Chasers are ruining passgen because they're entitled incels or predators who can't control their porn addictions and excessive horniness. Passgen is full of chasers demanding nudes and ass photos from girls who want help passing.
The rest of the board is suffering too from excessive chaser horniness.
Something needs to be done about chasers. Male chasers are straight men and have no business being on this board. Cis female chasers should leave too because they are also predators even though they are lesbians and have a right to be here. All kinds of chasers should be removed.

Watch this. Chasers know their actions are inexcusable so they will cope and deflect onto trans lesbians in this thread. They will project by saying the trans lesbians are chasers too and worse than normal chasers and somehow inherently degenerate. These claims will be accompanied by transphobia. Chasers act so poorly they have nothing except ad hominem.
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>>42166168
>Men act horribly
>Men get vilified
>Men cry about it
Every single time
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>>42166886
cis f chasers are on their way to give you pussy for posting this
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>>42165739
When I read people's thoughts like this it makes me feel far more secure with my ongoing decision to troon out. Even though I've never been super feminine like some fags I certainly can't relate to thee sentiment of wanting to wield power of any kind. I just want to be pretty and cuddle up with someone who loves me for me.
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>chasers are ruining my fetish board
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>>42166219
I was gonna say because if I was straight I wouldn't have dated and topped and bottomed for my femboy bf for over a year. Straight men don't cuddle on other men's chests while listening to niche hobby info dumps in one ear and the heartbeat of their "bro" in the other while getting little whiffs of his body's specific alluring smells.

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FtMs are even hotter than normal alt girls.
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>>42166910
yes, i have a ftm wingman i see sometimes and he's really special
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>>42166986
How tight is his pussy?
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>>42166910
Yes he is beautiful
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>>42166910
nice feet

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i feel like people are just saying it is because they’re my friends. do i have a feminine body?
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>>42167329
it's fine, still cute
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>>42167303

Chasers are no more than talking parasites, please for everyone else's sake get off this site
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>>42167339
do i pass?
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>>42167339
also thanks
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>>42167348
not a great picture to tell, but i guess

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no man will ever want me and i will die alone as a stupid faggot with gyno and no hope of finding anyone because im a douchey retarded bpdemon loser who can hardly leave his house anymore
i have nothing of value to offer anyone in a relationship and even if i was hot at all im sexually useless so i have no hope of finding anyone who would stay with me for any reason
its never going to get better
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i believe in you
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>>42167370
why? theres always going to be a better guy out there than me. why would anyone settle for less with me?

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I like having the gay faggot kind of transbian sex where we frot on each other and suck each others cocks.

Anyone else?
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>>42167186
The trans parties are advertised as such.
As for where they hang out, it depends on the city. There are definitely gay bars they go to, but also specific trans/lgbt-friendly bars that arent specific to anything. The toughest bars to locate are the regular bars/clubs that have a contingent that go to, usually frequented by those who are stealth, so youre going to have to familiarize yourself here. Another option would be to go to an area like hells kitchen (in nyc) which isnt necessarily a gay neighborhood but still has a strong enough LGBT presence, but im not sure how many other cities have a neighborhood like this.
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>>42167246
Covered up then rubbed all over u..
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>>42167283
>///< i hope you tease the girls you really do this with this much and im not just an easy target
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the whole
>don't touch my penis
thing is terminally agp
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>>42167310
Both, are u gonna pay for my flight to come see u anon?

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in your opinion, what is the best political ideology for tranny rights?
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>>42167177
New York, California, Minnesota.
Tell me that these areas are doing well for landlords?

Hell, not even landlords.
Tell me that California is doing right by the Palisades fire victims.

You are so hell bent on this twisted vision of the landlord being your biggest enemy, you are oblivious to the harm done by the people that are telling you that landlords are your biggest enemies...
The government.

https://youtu.be/35r4k12ESmw?si=0zFKxbLrKJ3JxWKn
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>>42167196
>I forgot, it is impossible to build housing.
Palisades victims are still waiting for permits.
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>>42167217
mm i tried, but then lost the job to a pajeet anywya.. cant beat those DEI hire bonuses I guess.. that and the manager was a jeet.

and I dont have freinds, no money to go anywhere or do anything... heance the lack of job..
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>>42167233
I’m sure that is the fault of migrants, right? They issue the permits, I hear.
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>>42167328
I point you to this post, retard.
>>42166888
I swear, the internet needs an IQ test to operate.

Illegal immigrants are a cause, but not the only cause.

Permits.
Cities with the longest delays in approving permits:
SF - 30 months
NYC - 30 months
Seattle - 16 months
LA - 13 months
Oakland - 8 months


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>what is INTERGEN?
INTERGEN is a general for intersex people to talk to each other about their experiences or just to hang out

>what is an intersex person?
Intersex people are those born with any of several sex characteristics, including chromosome patterns, gonads, or genitals that do not fit typical binary notions of male or female bodies

>am I intersex?
We are not doctors, please seek medical advice, but dont be afraid to ask questions here to maybe understand things better

>are trans people intersex?
Trans people are not inherently intersex, however an intersex person can transition if they want, “neurologically intersex” is not real as being intersex pertains to the sex organs or hormonal productions

>how is this /lgbt/?
We share similar experiences of discrimination and social prejudice based on sex and gender norms, even though intersex is a variation of sex characteristics, not a gender identity or sexual orientation itself
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>>42165371
It’s amazing to be home on such a blustery day
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>>42166233
DES was uniquely awful but this is actually contested, with other sources claiming lower odds of mtf transition in that population vs. the general population. And everyone's favorite rodent-based theory of gender identity hinges on the action of estrogen (usually derived from testosterone by local aromatase) on the developing brain.
But as always in sexology we just ignore evidence that contradicts our claims.
>>42165387
I don't think most people would argue with you that some things are correlated, but even pretty significant prenatal hormone variations failed to reliably produce homosexuality in that study.
To the extent there are biological underpinnings to sexuality and gender identity in humans (and there certainly is evidence that hints that there are biological underpinnings) they are poorly understood. We can find correlations but that doesn't mean we know if the relationship is causal, or what the mechanism is.

But going back to
>intersex behavior and neurology
Am I wrong to say that the vast majority of homosexuals have no identifiable DSD? That homosexuality emerges in humans despite no significant difference in sex organ anatomy, hormone production, or hormone sensitivity?
Why is homosexuality any more intersex than being unusually short or unusually tall?
How far do we take it? If I'm AMAB but I have strong maternal instincts is that an intersex trait? Why does brain think I'm a mommy? Do I go ahead and put an intersex flag up in my lawn on that basis alone?
What's the limit?
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>>42166789
that prenatal hormones and orientation are related in humans mirrors the same observation as rats, which we can reliably produce homosexuality in, by giving larger doses of prenatal hormones (the adrenal gland, obviously, isn't the body's major source of testosterone)
claiming we don't have a good standard of evidence on the causality at this point is cope

>Why is homosexuality any more intersex than being unusually short or unusually tall?
because androphilia and gynephilia are specifically sex associated characteristics in a way that height isn't, and they're associated with other sexed neurological and physiological changes

> If I'm AMAB but I have strong maternal instincts is that an intersex trait?
if you are a feminized homosexual male you should also be a bit more maternal

>Do I go ahead and put an intersex flag up in my lawn on that basis alone?
depends what you want to do with that flag, doesn't it?
homosexuality, transness and intersexness are all interlinked, and from a philosophical and apologetic point of view, i like showing they can be seen as variations between masculinity and femininity on an intersex spectrum
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>>42166896
So the fact that if you give a pregnant rat megadoses of testosterone it turns her daughters gay (does it, or does it just prevent the lordosis reflex from developing?) doesn't mean every human lesbian developed under the influence of megadoses of prenatal testosterone. Obviously. So, absent evidence a particular lesbian developed that way, why would we call her intersex?
Do you think all lesbians are even butch? Do you think all gay men are the stereotypical flamers?
Nearly every "sex associated characteristic" exists as two overlapping but distinct distributions, which means you inevitably get individuals who are outliers on one or more traits. Does that mean the entire human population is intersex?
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>>42167153
this is a silly argument you're making
you can induce intersex development with exogenous hormone-mimicking chemicals, but not all cases of intersex development are caused by exogenous chemicals
what that points to is that homosexuality represents a neurological intersex state as an opposite sex development pathway we have gone down to become gay or lesbian

>Do you think all lesbians are even butch? Do you think all gay men are the stereotypical flamers?
statistically, yes, actually
lesbians and gay men have quite a strong childhood GNC effect, and even as adults they're substantially less gender conforming in other ways, they're even closer to the other sex in physical build and facial features

>Nearly every "sex associated characteristic" exists as two overlapping but distinct distributions, which means you inevitably get individuals who are outliers on one or more traits. Does that mean the entire human population is intersex?
no, because considering all traits at once, there's a pretty clean separation
people who make this kind of argument are wordcels who don't get how multivariate traits work

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I don't think it's a big deal
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>>42167112
yeah, p much
like, tons of queer people both men and women like the power or manic-pixie fantasy of breaking up a heterosexual couple and helping the target of their attraction realize their repressed, homosexual attraction. yes, it's problematic when viewed in the context of a commitment between two partners, but to queer people it's in the wider cultural context of compulsory heterosexuality and it appeals to a sense that we need to break down social institutions that enforce that.
there's also the misogynist angle of stereotyping women and assuming they can't have masculine-coded sexuality. the cism yurifag thinks they are so feminist because they love yuri, but then they are blinded by how they apply their stereotypes of femininity to women.
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>>42167191
>the power or manic-pixie fantasy of breaking up a heterosexual couple and helping the target of their attraction realize their repressed, homosexual attraction.

its good as long as its not bisexuality masked off as homosexuality

>assuming they can't have masculine-coded sexuality

do you mean invalidating butch lesbians?
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>>42166728
Help transform everything into yuri. Nothing heterosexual, everything yuri. If we transform every gacha game into yuri, when we transform every Fire Emblem pairing into yuri, when the first bell rings and makes Fire Emblem Fates let Soleli date women in Fire Emblem, we'll know our work wasn't in vain. But until then, make everything yuri, make the world crave two women kissing, buy it, be active in the yuri community. We need warriors to win this fight against shoujo and yaoi.

Because remember, the best genre isn't the most watched, it's the one that touches our hearts the most. And introduce yuri to your friends, acquaintances, and family...
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>>42167322
not simply butch lesbians, but, like, assuming women can't get horny based on the visual appearance of someone else, can't masturbate to porn or 2d artwork, won't masturbate like, at all, can't be out looking for easy sex, etc...
i've literally talked to a baby cis-lesbian freaking out because they thought their own sexuality was "male gaze", and that kind of insecurity is what is fueled by cisheterosexist stereotypes about women and how they are supposed to experience sexuality

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Shartyfags should be banned on sight. They contribute nothing good to the board and lower the board quality by posting the same bait that, of course, everyone always falls for, killing other threads in the process. Troonjaks should outright be banned on this board as they're almost always attached to extremely low-quality posts that seem to attract too much attention. This isn't about building a "safe space" as I'm sure some would accuse me of doing in 2017, but having a space at all. If precautions are not taken to take out the trash that is underage shartyfags, the board will continue to be unuseable.
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Real
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>>42167287
This board is pure unmoderated garbage now. Just endless racebait, chudbait, and shartytards. I genuinely think the last mod was shit at their job, but at least they put in a half-assed effort now and then. We have nothing now.
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>>42167287
of course you're right but mods only rulefag on /a/ and dumbass slow boards that don't actually need it like /ck/, every other board is fair game.

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How does a manmoder/HRTrepper fix their self image to no longer see oneself as a dysphoric male and instead see oneself as a tranny, let alone a woman?

I can't ever make the leap seem to stick and just see myself as a broken, failed male or some weird creature with both autoandrophobia and autogynephobia.
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>>42165815

You have to stop caring about your identity and being authentic and just conform to female gender stuff.
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>>42166340
I guess. I just cry in the mirror a lot. I don't know how I malefailed when I have such an oversized ribcage and shoulders and would just be better off as a guy. The boobs make everything worse.
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>>42166308
Missing thigh gap means your thighs got thicker. That sounds like more of a good thing.
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>>42166441
It should be, right? But it makes me feel bad.
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>>42166328
see I've tried engaging with like all sorts of stuff, even a detrans fetish or whatever but literally anything sexual feels like absolute garbage more often than not

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Gay sex edition
>QOTT: Have you ever had gay sex?
>QOTT2: Did you enjoy it?
>QOTT3: If not, why?
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>>42164995
me on the right
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>jerk off to AI ERP
>roleplay a female character in a fantasy setting
>she falls in love with a big bad alpha wolf-guy
>realize I reinvented the werewolf thing by accident
Is this AGP or HSTS?
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>QOTT3: If not, why?
I was never close to having gay sex besides two """friends""" who flashed me their gock when I was a minor.
I've wanted to be a girl for a long time but I don't care that much for sex.
I tried to perform for my gf when I was in a rep4rep relationship in High School. I lost contact with her but she'll probably transition one day, unlike my autistic hon-in-potential ass.
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>>42167284
ugh meant cock but you guys know the deal, too much time around these parts.
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>>42167189
Hsts

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i am 185cm so i know i wont ever pass despite having a cute face and curvy body so i rep
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>175
nani? I thought japanese women were supposed to be small.
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my first gf was cis and 6 feet tall. tall girls literally do exist, and they're hot
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>>42167265
That is small.

I wish there was some place for older (30+) trannies like me. Every online trans space is filled with extremely young people or reppers.
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>>42166600
(cont)
I honestly feel bad for those of you who started transition after 2015. You came out in a world where there was a bubble of artificial social acceptance for our kind. You've never had to experience the hardship of the before times; and now it appears those hardships are starting to come back as the pendulum swings.

The acceptance of intersex and transsexuals was a political ideological bubble ran by idiots; and due to how humans are tribal creatures, people who ascribed to that particular political tribe would simply parrot the message without any real belief. They often see us as just men in dresses trying to "deconstruct" the gender binary, when nothing could be further from the truth: we're just trying to live our lives the best we can.

A few stories.

One time, I got detained by the police for stealing my own identity in a hospital. I had developed a pretty nasty case of celluitis where staph had ran throughout part of my foot. I ended up in the ER, and all I had was my old teen ID with my dead name and M on the photo ID. The ID was old enough that it didn't look too different, but my grandfather had shaved my head right before the photo because he didn't want me looking like a girl in it. I had to prove to the police that I was indeed "male". It was humiliating. After that, I had every single doctor in the ER come in to visit me. It was odd.

Another time, in an attempt to get a legitimate job, I tried to get housing and work training through Job Corps. The social workers told me that the only way I could join was if I shaved my head, stopped "playing female", and went full male to whatever it was I had to do. By the way, these same social workers before I gave them my documents, thought the young child who accompanied me was my son and I had an absent father moments before.

When I finally did get legitimate work, I still had to be careful. In the city I worked in, being trans was effectively illegal: "soliciting prostitution."
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>>42166600
i feel like a total fake compared to people like you. started hrt at 30 and still too scared to even attempt any kind of social transition
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(cont)
I had a older trans friends get nabbed under that "soliciting prostitution" thing. If a cop got your ID and saw M but saw a female staring back, you were in deep shit. I defaced mine over that section of my ID to help avoid this. And there was no legal defense for it, because, "why else would you dress like that other than soliciting gay men for prostitution?" That law didn't change here until 2015 or so.

We had friends who would border hop into mexico to get HRT, some of us used the internet to order things, like in /HRTgen/.

If you passed during the Obama years, and someone did eventually find out about you, it was only a matter of time before you became a "liability" once the bathroom became an issue. You could no longer use the women's, but using the men's would cause "complaints". I'd be fired soon after.

I've been denied lifesaving medical care for dangerous infections and conditions that could be solved with antibiotics because doctors would refuse to treat me for literally anything. The ONE thing I am glad for is that medical acceptance seems to now be at an all time high. My main complaint is that the idiot progressives shining a spotlight on us has made us much easier for people to spot and suspect something.

Work on your voice. It will absolutely save your life. Never admit what you are to anyone. Lie. Gaslight. Destroy or modify as much documentation as you can. If you get found out at work, find another job as soon as you can and do not let them contact your workplace. Minimize ties to your old life as much as possible. If anyone finds old photos, claim it's a now deceased cousin or brother and it's a sensitive topic.

NEVER ADMIT ANYTHING.
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>>42166777
Give it time. After a while, physical changes will be difficult to hide, even at 30. Take your own path. I'm crazy, and do the only thing I know how to do. May you have a smoother path.

I still do recommend burning ties and fleeing to another place once you do if possible. I'm living with my family again. They accepted me after a while and things have never been better. Not all of us get so lucky.

You're not fake, our paths are different, and I hope it doesn't get as bad as it was, or worse, for us ever again. You are blessed with the knowledge that those who have came before bestowed. Finding this knowledge and community back in the day was difficult. Support groups would often send a boyfriend or male preacher (they often met in churches, ironically) to vet you before they even let you know about the meeting location and time. Now, you can just find DIY medical and legal information all over the internet.

Take your time. It will come to you eventually. I boymoded for a year or two myself.
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>>42151823
Does it get better?
I started on my 20th bday

Im 26 now


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