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So what's the verdict, is this black guy actually sexy, or is it just fem-brained interference to be attracted to the current dangerous thug?
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>>40969080
>my brain telling me he's hot
you are so cooked ngl
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>>40969100
I knew the thread had a chance of getting a bit crazy, but I really needed to understand if there was any legitimacy to my thug-lust
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that's just you I think
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>>40969128
He's very mediocre looking
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>>40968789
mid

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ecco2k gf edition
QOTT: what would you ask if you had one wish? if you could choose only one thing to fix?
prev >>40956895
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1 nothing wrong with me
2 nothing wrong with me
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that won't suffice
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trip on bee
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i'll indulge you this time, why tf do you think i'm bee?
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buzzing like a beehive you em cees is knee high

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>just jerked off to cosplayer lewds again
hrt was supposed to fix this. I take AAs and what should theoretically be a monotherapy dose of een. I don't get why my body is still producing testosterone. This is probably the closest I've been to suicide.
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>>40969150
test doesn't dictate how horny you are.
you guys act like taking e should break your dick. um... did you guys forget women get horny, too? giving yourself erectile dysfunction doesn't mean hrt is working as intended. it means your psychologically disingenuous.

hrt doesn't break your dick or kill your sex drive. more so: post-ops report multiple orgasms. guess what their t level is? minimal. if hrt killed your boner, then it means you got groomed by the woke liberal mind virus. you're not a transsexual. you don't have agp. you're not hsts.
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>>40969203
something something male sexuality works different from female sexuality and I should be on the female end of things but am not

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I was surfing on terf tumblr for. reasons.. and the main rhetoric that they try and push out there is that gender is just a bunch of stereotypes attributed to the biological sex, that's why so many of them (terfs) are "gender abolitionists."

This is why so many people experience with Gender Dysphoria, as their entire gender identity that was assigned to them at birth, is solely a load of stereotypes and assumptions that they would grow up to not align with.

I would like to know your guys thoughts on this
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>>40967371
Nobody cares
What is a relevant objection?
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>>40967064
There's layers but our cultures (and the evolution of reproduction itself) generally care about gonadal sex. It's the "productive" definition.
Males make little gametes and females make big ones. You use both to make more organisms.

And these gametes are activated and developed as the chromosomal sex (hopefully) then defines the gonadal sex, and then we are assigned a sex within our culture, hopefully by someone with medical knowledge to help "sort" intersex cases into an assigned sex by proximity and what data we have based on how well that intersex condition matches with a functional sex.
That's three layers.

Trannies added "ostensible" sex or "gender" or "sex presentation". Through epigenetics, the case they make is that hormone replacement will change an ostensible, which they assert is the most important.

I personally can't buy into that because sex exists for reproduction. You can call all the other window-dressing something else but your sex should be based on gamete production (at any point you made them). Assigned sex is useful because it helps fold in intersex cases, matches up nearly 1:1 with gonadal sex and basically defines what sexist socialization you'll receive.
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transgenderism is just adhering to stereotypes
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>>40967817
this
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Gender isn't gender roles

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I'm genuinely so insanely afraid of transitioning. Not because of anything that comes with it, but because of the smallest possibility that I might one day just completely change my mind, and realize that I actually prefer being a man. Or even worse, that I'll realize I'm just fine with being a man compared to being a tranny.
This genuinely cripples me with horrid dread.
I wish I had an innate sense of gender and wasn't completely depersonalized, so that worrying about this would be pointless
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>>40968884
Lol.
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>>40968875
I wish I were more like you in this regard. That woman is intrinsic to you, or more accurately, you are her and she is you.
For me though, there is no core to begin with. No identity. Everything I do is completely aimless, a pure shot in the dark.
If anything, there's more proof that I am just a regular cis man, and I genuinely despise the fact. At this point, I hope this spite is enough for ego death, so that my new self not a man in any way shape or form
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>>40968941
You feel empty and aimless because you're forcing yourself to be something you're not and don't want to be. You can just become a woman anon. We all had those hoops we jump through but like just try on a skirt or something ffs
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>>40968963
I've not tried any explicitly feminine clothes up until now because of two reason.
The first one is the fear that I will feel nothing, which is extremely likely, or even truly hate it.
The second reason is the fact that it'll just emphasize how much of I truly look like a man. I'm basically a slightly smaller jerma985

>you're forcing yourself to be something you're not and don't want to be
It's impossible for me to discern whether that's ever been the case. Maybe I'm just making a mountain out of a molehill. I feel like being a man is not painful enough for me to be able to call it gender dysphoria and I'm afraid it might not be.
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>>40968002
I don't wanna sway you either way here's my experience
>Insanely hot guy, depressed and dissociated as fuck for years
>decide to Troon out the moment I found out it was a thing
>Don't pass in the slightest but just look like a more feminine hot guy with breasts but looks kinda normal on my body
>Sexuality kinda changes a bit, probably cause I'm less depressed and repressed and dissociated from my body
>Manage to kinda sort out more of my mental health and figure out more or less the source of the tranny thoughts
>At this point I have the most wonderful trans gf, and a brand new life where I'm more successful than I've ever been in my career. The relationship is monogamous and the happiest I've ever had. I'm kind of the man of the relationship, but not in a way that makes me feel bad, I honestly love the dynamic we have
>A lot happier in my body even though I don't pass and I'm not sure what the future plan is. Kinda want ffs but I don't mind having a really handsome androgynous face
Honestly it has been a beautiful experience for me. There's been difficult moments and I did give up a lot of my masculinity. But I was kind of uncomfortable in my masculinity, and weirdly enough being on hrt for as long as I have been had made me more comfortable with the masculine parts of myself and it's made me appreciate masculinity. Gender in general was just this vague alien concept to me for the longest time and then one day I considered it and then I spent a couple of years really in turmoil about it and now I've just kinda moved past it and exist as this slightly altered, much happier version of myself but I think 99% of that was just like fixing everything else that was going on in my life aswell. It coincided with some just general progress and general shedding of some really painful connections and parts of myself and coping strategies.
This won't be everyone's experience.

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The thing that never ever happens, happened again

https://x.com/TheGriftReport/status/1964591968752980094
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>>40968992
What eastern european shithole did this crawl out of
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>>40968992
we live in a society
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>>40968992
So this is what Luke's been doing since the outdoor boys stopped
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buy an add

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>QOTT: Is this the end for terje?
>QOTT2: Will he ever escape Gloves gaping maw?
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>>40968987
>don't see them as men
Pretty clearly said I did.
>having sex with pussy makes you gay
K
>don't like gay title
I don't have sex with dicks.
>bi
See above
>insert rest of wine aunt complaints here

The only thing here is you define orientation by gender, I define it by sex. The rest of just your justifications for taking out your issue everyone who has made you feel bad on me.

I'm not interested in you, you're an insufferable cunt. Pussy or no.
>>40969014

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>>40969071
Date women
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>>40969087
No.
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Do ftm think that PIV is gay sex?
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>>40969155
I don't

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https://voca.ro/174jm3k023T8

I just got on estrogen can you tell my voice sounds more fem?
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SCREAMER
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>>40968952
definitely a bit higher but keep at the voice training and be a bit more confident when you speak!!! This has potential, good luck anon hope estrogen does you some good
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lmfao
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>>40968952
https://voca.ro/1m9RX2pD631f
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we've got a voice thread up right now >>40963888 for this sort of thing! estrogen will not change your voice but training it will. friends there can advise
i would say for now that you sound a bit nasal and will need to try raising your resonance.

here are the mtf resources that nobody posts anymore:
▶ Resources MTF:

--- Full MTF Course ---
•L's Guide
https://www.reddit.com/r/transvoice/comments/d3clhe/ls_voice_training_guide_level_1_for_mtf/

•Google Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gLIOxG9Oq8Ncs1z-c1uvHAgZ43bYGuwdJtLQrQ9EyDg/

•Supplement L's guide with..
False Folds:

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I keep feeling a bit weird about if I'll be able to pass eventually. I'm unable to get makeup and stuff like that but I have been on HRT for about a year, switched to injections recently
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>>40965725
chuzz but pass
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>>40965725
I think you can pass, but you seem to try to present kinda scruffy and andro
so like I wouldn't tell you not to if that's what you love but... other styles might pass better for you?
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>>40965725
unlikely
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Oh hey, it's the lead singer of the cure
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>>40969052
what styles would you recommend? I just woke up when I took this pic lmao

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I am a 21 y/o trans girl living in the largest city in my state (on the east coast). I look like a monster. Every time a stranger refers to or addresses me with a gendered term I take note of it and log it in my phone (Only counting once per person, and obviously not counting situations where someone has access to information that would affect their decision, i.e. if I introduce myself with my name and they gender me correctly afterwards it doesn't count, it only counts when they're doing it based off how I look/sound/act, not based off things they've been told). I have been doing this for over a year.

I'm currently, according to my records, gendered correctly 83% of the time, and I haven't been misgendered in 7 months. But the thing is, I absolutely do not pass. Like not even a little bit. I'm actually so ugly and masculine it's insane and it's unbelievable to me that I get ma'am'd anywhere near as much as I do. But I do.

My question is, in cities, will most people refer to you based off your presentation regardless of if you pass or not? Are most people actually nice and respectful to trans people, and the internet is just disproportionately hostile to us? Or, am I just delusional about how clocky I am? I would love to hear the opinion of some fellow transgenders and normal-people experts. thankyou,,
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>>40968667
I don't think it's all "that deep". I'm just wondering if people can tell if I'm trans or not. Either people notice I'm trans, but they don't care and they're just not transphobic, or, they just don't notice at all.
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>>40968712
well, that's the thing, it's just psychological heuristics, and then scrutinizing and misgendering costs effort, which is unusual
so you can't figure out which portion of ppl are paying attention and which are just going off conditioned heuristics, and even if you could get only ppl that pay attention you will never know how many are being nice or mean, and how many just go along for the least social friction
passing can make you lose your mind if you let it imho
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>>40968867
i will never know but i would like to know and i would like to hear people's thoughts
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>>40968891
well, that is my thoughts, it can make you lose your mind...
I will say there is a noticeable difference between when I made some effort and was thinner, and when I made no effort and was heavier
like the difference between colleagues blushing, getting asked out, ppl trying to scout me off the street, asking to kiss my hand, asking if I'm single, bending the rules, bus driver letting me take a hot drink onto a bus with a no drinks sign and then waiting for me to cross the street infront of the bus and waving before driving on
versus old men on two occasions saying I look nice in recent years while I take a break on a bench
I know ppl try to say that being attractive and passing aren't the same thing, but they're still closely related like 'a girl that cute can't be mtf' or 'a guy that buff can't be ftm'
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>>40969016
>colleagues blushing, getting asked out, ppl trying to scout me off the street, asking to kiss my hand, asking if I'm single, bending the rules, bus driver letting me take a hot drink onto a bus with a no drinks sign and then waiting for me to cross the street infront of the bus and waving before driving on
none of these things have ever, ever happened to me

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It never gets old edition.

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>>40747275

Comics we know of, all of which are named Kaito Shuno:
https://www.webcomicsgeneral.top/

Other archives and lists:
https://tagpacker.com/user/lgbtwebcomics
https://webring.gay/list.html?id=0

Feel free to recommend new webcomics that are not in the lists, but don't be lazy, please include:
>Name of comic
>Link to it

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>>40966576
these are still just lesbians
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>https://m.webtoons.com/en/canvas/play-love-means-nothing/list?title_no=977344

In today’s episode, we are trauma dumping on our son, like the father of the year we are.
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Good night sniff
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Good morning bump
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>>40873012
sauce of this image?

i hate living alone. i hate wearing the same cloth*es everyday and being smelly. i hate not having a job. i hate having a messy house. i ave not hving money. i hate not having food. hate not being able to sleep. i hate not really looking to much like a girl.. i hate not having a good mummy.

but still, i want my mummy.- i want my mummy. i want my mummy. i want my mummy. i want hugs and kisses from my mummy. i want mummy to tell me everything's going to be okay. i want mummy to help me. i want my mummy.
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>>40966376
(hugs u through text)
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>>40966405
you'll be alright, love. you're strong and smart and good
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>>40965507
force yourself to be autistic about buses and hang about trans/bus circles and eventually you'll find some weird transbian polyfuck to mummy you, there's a surprising amount in this forsaken country
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>>40965507
yeah same too bad my actual mommy resents me for not being a dimorphic dominant manly man
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Haha my mom loves me and yours doesn’t :)

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/lesgen/ is the lesbian general for all cis women and trans women (MtF) to discuss lesbian relationships and topics.

Bee kind to each other and report/ignore trolls who attempt to divide trans mtf lesbians and cis lesbians as a community.

QOTT:
>Are you still friends with your exes?
>Have you ever gotten back with an ex?
>What's the best programming language?

tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Flesgen%2F
discord: https://discord.gg/bAnVMAGPNR
old thread: 40953043
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get rekt
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>>40969021
that sounds really sweet anon, like a true partnership, you're both very lucky imho
>>40969037
600 is a lot, my mom gave me a mini rosary a while ago, but it only has like 10 beads so I get thru it quickly
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>>40969097
thanks nona, I agree. I love my gf very much and I can't see a future without her by my side. We pretty much grew up together since we were in highschool, so there's that
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>>40969106
oh yeh, the anon that has been married for 20 years?
never take it for granted, some of us just go round and round and it gets tiring tbqh
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>>40969131
Don't worry, I don't plan to ever taking it for granted. I'm genuinely thankful that she stood by my side through so much hardship (even through me trooning out, which is huge). So yeah, I'm just generally super grateful and blessed to still have her by my side.
We're not married (yet) because we don't really see a point to it. But maybe one day we'll get married, who knows!

Is it ok for a top to invite his bottom bf to boys night?
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>>40966444
No do a double date instead. No partners allowed at boys night
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>>40966737
the no partner rules is just a no girlfriend rule
ie no chicks allowed
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>>40966974
a bottom is a chick
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>>40967304
no im gay and my bottom is a bro
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no

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Once you start to touch grass you realize hustle culture is a lot better than hopeless culture. If trannies focused on maximizing their income instead of how they look or, what people think about them they’d be far better off hons included.
Oh boohoo you’ll have to get three part time jobs at first. Your coworker Johnny from Yemen does the same thing and he considered life here a paradise.
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Fr bro when u start learning the l becomes silent and thats on god
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>>40969107
But I wanna take care of a cute neet tranny who relies entirely on me
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>>40969119
what if i use all ur savings on fashion shopping sprees anon
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>>40969129
That's what I have the savings for
To pamper cute loser trannies


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