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I hate seeing attractive people.

They wake up every morning not feeling disgusting.
They can look down and see a body that they know is theirs.
They don't see their shoulders stick out too far in the mirror.
They don't notice their masculine jawline, chin and hands.
They hum in the shower with a voice they recognise.
They brush their hair not obsessing over the widow's peak they've had since 14.
They don't have to disassociate just to avoid breaking down at the sight of themselves.
But I do.

They're everywhere. In the streets I walk on, when I pass them at work, in the places I visit. My friends, strangers, people I'll never see not online, and it hurts all the same.

I wonder often what my life would be like if I wasn't born like this. What it would be like to be part of the overwhelming beauty in the world, instead of someone who can only watch from the outside. What it would be like if my body hadn't poisoned me for years with testosterone, would I be satisfied then?


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>>42298740
damn thanks OP, i see a haircut that i like and u made me think of it could work on me
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>>42298740
Most attractive gays are boring, drug and sex addicted.
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Becoming attractive takes work, OP. Then you have to maintain discipline once you get there. You think these people don’t have to work at it? Look at them 10 years later and 50% become overweight and chopped. No one stays attractive without adherence to pure living and values.
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>>42298740
>These people get to be human. They get to go out, be loved, have their hearts broken, be held in the arms of someone they love. I can't even find someone attractive without feeling like a creep for doing so,
tell me about it
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>>42300216
which one? i could probably find a hair 360 for most of them if you want

discuss
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>>42298514
gyatt damn
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>>42297968
>yeah im feeling under the weather too, slept awful as well
this is so funny how many of us are hopping on e now (im not faketrans either i just was too scared to do this shit when i was 13). what are the chances your first injection was 2 days ago and mine was yesterday. and a few weeks ago in repgen when i bought my e a few other people also did around the same time LMAO
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kahkUxXtNEI&si=65IMi0PMeW_EqsNk
^ its us on e
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>>42299462
:O
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>>42298514
oh you meant porn. it's a great butt but you can't tell the rest of the proportions from that angle
>>42298531
im not interested in the DCIM i just want a fat ass
>>42299462
my niggaz
>>42299475
<3
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>>42298514
sauce?

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This thread is dedicated to informing people genuinely questioning the legitimacy of being transgender, educating lurkers/posters of /lgbt/, as well as dismantling the idiocy, misinformation/disinformation and bad faith actors from transphobes (/pol/). Please refer to the following link when discovering a fallacy as well as properly linking to any of the following studies that most accurately counters flawed logic, or best supports the evidence and legitimacy for being transgender when questioned.

https://www.logicalfallacies.org/

pt 1/?
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Good thread. I never really gathered links to studies like that and there were times where it could be useful so I'm definitely saving that. Thank you
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>>42291331
Well yeah anon you have to dissect a brain in order to do that reliably. It took the author 11 years to collect these samples
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>>42291331
Also there was a repeat of it in early 2000s by a different institute and it said the same
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Scientific evidence silencing and cleaning up anti-trans rhetoric, one thread at a time.
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bump 4ever

/lesgen/ is the lesbian general for all cis women and trans women (MtF) to discuss lesbian relationships and topics.

Be kind to each other and report/ignore trolls who attempt to divide trans mtf lesbians and cis lesbians as a community. This includes transphobic bigotry, femmephobia, butchphobia, racism, and anti-c4t/t4t slop. This is nice thread. :)

QOTT
>Are you talented with your hands?
>If your wife was dying and you had no other choice, would you pay for black market organs (obtained from murdered victims)?
>Where do you get your news from? Do you do proper research before forming opinions? How? Be honest, don’t give pseud answers.

tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Flesgen%2F
discord: https://discord.gg/bAnVMAGPNR
old thread: >>42256010
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>>42299130
I do wonder why the server and gen have such a negative opinion of you. Wonder if it has anything to do with stacker telling us how you’ve once again “done a bit” that causes her distress and for her to be upset at you. Only for her to come back the next day and justify your behavior to herself. Like when you vaguely alluded to wanting to kirk yourself and took both phones so she couldn’t contact you. And we spent the evening trying to console her while she was freaking out.
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This thread? Seems pretty 50/50 depending on who is posting at the time.
Your special server? Who gives a damn you all eat eachother eventually, even your #1 soldiers end up doing something wrong and being ousted. Living with a partner full time, for years, sharing all of your expenses etc. can get kind of stressful (you wouldnt know) and we just happen to share alot of our day to day here for you to pick apart.
Anywyas love veggie tales so much <3
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i kinda miss stacker in the server tbqh she was always nice
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The public reaction to the Minneapolis murder is reminding me that we’re only “accepted” if we’re both straight-passing fem waifs under 25
Dooming hard
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>>42300302
Nah, you're not accepted if you are rather people can't tell and assume you are friends so it's not dangerous day to day in the same way. It's like a passing trans vs. a hon.

That said... wow I thought she might actually be lez but she was a poonchaser what a shocker. Cisles and bis are all just poonchaser/egg x poon couples aren't they?

What the fuck even am I? I am disgusted by my masculine body so much that I want to kill myself, but i dont think i really want to be a girl. I feel like trans women are on a higher level of goodness than i am, and that im not worthy enough to be considered a trans woman. Plus I also want to be a femboy too. I dont know whats wrong with me and i cant stop freaking out, what am i?!
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>>42299710
this was me
i trooned anyway
i am happier this way
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>>42299710
It kinda sounds like you're a tranny with imposter syndrome. Obv I can't know what you really are, but I was the same and completely unable to get over it. Only doing acid actually made me realize that I was holding myself back from being truly happy
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>>42299961
But i dont feel worthy of calling myself a girl, and i also want to still be seen as a femboy
>>42300083
I felt like this for years. If it was imposter syndrome then i likely wouldve figured it out by now i think
>>42299763
I want my body to be as feminine as possible, i guess i just want to be seen as both a boy and a girl when it comes to identity. But i worry if i tried identifying as something like genderfluid, people would just treat me like im genderless or just treat me like a freak.
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>>42299710
the imposter syndrome passes eventually the forward you go with transition.
thank god i didn't wallow and just started at 21. Now at 30 I get to live.
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>>42300190
>i guess i just want to be seen as both a boy and a girl when it comes to identity
that worked well as a cope in the early years of my transition.
Would've been happy even if i had to stay that way, desu. But eventually I learned to love femininity.

what are the chances of a boymoder becoming a beautiful and elegant princess?
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>>42300174
is it allowed for a boymoder and a girlmoder to share a bed? seems risky..
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>>42300239
what's risky about that?
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>>42300330
there are sexual dangers when boys and girls get too close
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>>42300386
well...
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>>42300465
i wonder if there are any lesbian boymoders

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I'm not transitioning because of dysphoria.
I'm not transitioning because of a cross sex identity.
I'm not transitioning because of AGP.
I'm not transitioning because I want to be a woman.
None of that.
I am transitioning because I wanted a challenge.
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>>42299992
ok enjoy living a lie, god is fake anyway.
I'm going to do what i want with my life
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>>42300076
god made me a tranny, and put me in a world where I can take tranny meds. god wanted me to be a tranny
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>>42299863
sounds based, ngl
if you can pull it off, that is.
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>>42300292
>>42300263
you act like he doesn't exist but look what happened
he sent his prophet to end this madness. trans will be stopped soon
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>>42300413
i don't live in the us, try again ameritard

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QOTT:
Were you also lonely with no thread fOR 3 DAYS???

>Reminder: This gen is for cis homosexual females (lesbians). All trans-related or bisexual posts are considered off-topic and should be directed to other generals or threads. No discussion of male (XY) anatomy.

Discords:
>OG Discord: https://pastebin.com/P644WESi
>clg2 Discord: https://pastebin.com/1ct1Fcag
>clg3 Discord: https://pastebin.com/emrpgWM8

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I feel like I've hit a point in my transition where I can do better than my current boyfriend.
I don't want to sound like an evil bitch but the guy I attracted as a 6 month babytranny and the guys I attract now 2 years in are leagues apart. My current bf isn't bad or anything, but he's not like exceptional either .
I don't know, I guess I'm wondering if I actually like him or do I just like that he supported me when I was uglier.
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>itt
>a bunch of salty low quality chasers
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come on op, stick with your bf. you rant comment in a relationship, and you already have that, especially if you put more work in. finding people who are higher up the x/10 ladder would be a useless risk. just focus on loving your partner more. think about how much fun you had when you were new to dating each other, and do things to try to recreate that novelty. it's still possible. help him grow to the standards you want too, if he's ugly go to the gym with him and give lots of praise for any work he takes to look better (but don't neg)
sounds like a lot of work or whatever but commitment is infinitely better than getting a better x/10 that won't treat you right.
t. tranny btw not even saying this as a bitter chaser or anything. it's just good for you to stick with someone. cycling relationships will hurt you.
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>>42299881
you want commitment in a relationship* sorry fucked up that first sentence real bad

again, if it feels like the magic has died in this relationship, it's not because it necessarily has to have died. you can bring it back. don't chase new guys for novelty. commitment is infinitely better. commit to your current guy, and devote yourself to helping him better you and you bettering him.
you'll know if you actually need to leave if being with him actually starts to feel... draining. bad. unhealthy. but that's a different feeling. it feels suffocating. like you're being treated actively badly. that's different to relationship FOMO. relationship FOMO is social media narcicism driven brainrot and you don't want to give in to it.
basically, try to be as normal as possible. what would a normal person do here? stick with her boyfriend, is what. so you should do that too.
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>>42299934
Let her learn. Her bf deserves someone better.
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What it sounds like to me is that you improved yourself during the relationship but he did not. I think it's not evil to want to leave a man who is stunted in growth

Post cute outfits you'd wear if you switched genders or was born as a girl. Future trannies post what how you'll dress when you transition I guess
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>>42296034
fuck i wish i could be the alt girl in an alt girl/autistic twink relationship
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i’d be a femcelmoder i don’t care for fashion
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>>42293574
>>42293642
you understand how retardedly lucky you got in life nona...
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>>42298891
that's meee (soon), I will be his alt girlfriend with a dick he can fuck the ass off
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>>42299538
need

i want to genuinely spend hours making myself look perfect each morning so every single man i walk past will do a double take as they wonder how such a regular guy pulled an alt baddie like me.

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if I am perfectly androgynous?
I don't look trans, I just look very neotenous despite being 30 now (been told I'd make a great shota years ago) and my face is very weakly gendered neither male nor female.
I feel like no one ever looks like me in the world and I am completely unique. There is definitely no trans woman that does lol.
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>>42300331
that's just neoteny, usually associated with femininity, but enough of a blank slate that with styling you definitely pushed yourself into looking like woman. It the ideal state for a tranner, tranners want to be as boyish looking as possible pretroon to even have a chance.
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Would pretty much imply a lack of masculine dimorphism.
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>>42300375
Pretroon I had let myself go and was fat and buried my features under that and hair, which has been gone now for years
But yeah styling obviously makes me look way more womanly but if I don't wear makeup I look incredibly androgynous
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>>42300395
I mean ig what I don't get is I see trans women all the time on here who are way more clocky but also like look like women? Like they're less androgynous despite looking visibly trans yknow
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>>42300420
break it down facial feature by facial feature(eyes, lips, nose), and then by bone structure (skull/jaw). Obviously beauty standards are going to influence these. Facial compactness is neotenous, and also generally seen as feminine. (distance between nose, mouth, and eyes). full lips = feminine, big eyes = feminine, almond eyes = appeal to female beauty standards, small nose = feminine, soft instead of angular jaws/chins = feminine, smaller for each feature except eyes, and lips = feminine.

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Why are chuds so heartless towards queer persons? This is grave dancing on another level.
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>>42299294
>Nazis are literally a communist rebranding
What does that even mean? How about instead of “rebranding” words that already have very distinct meanings, you just make up a new word? Or use an existing word that has some semblance of definition to what you are trying to communicate?
..and you wonder why the right no longer gives a shit what you say.
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>>42300299
That’s before she even started moving where again, she was trying to pull out of her driveway when the first car of the ice brigade cut her off. They began this entire interaction by the car in front of them cutting her off so hard that she stopped short in the street thinking they were chasing something and it would be dangerous to keep pulling out.
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>>42300321
They read Liberal Fascism in college and never recovered, don’t worry bout it, there’s no hope for them
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>>42300299
did you even watch the video?
>>42300265
woow he got so harmed woow the car didn't even hit that retard even with the trajectory she was driving away
>>42300256
>commie cope
nigger what? was that not written out in your kike shill directions? you're supposed to call the 4chan user a no life or a troon, remember?
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>>42300416
>you're supposed to call the 4chan user a no life or a troon
Why would I project?
I'm a fed assigned to shill (so obviously no life) and a troon.
It's impolite to assume everyone else is.

What’s the point in getting srs? You already have two holes why do you need another?
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>>42299877
Presumably, it's to get rid of a pole while still making use of the erotic-responding nerves there.
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>>42299877
Custom made coochie
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>>42299877
the other holes have their own purposes so i need the vagina for sexual purposes
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It is required to be rid of chasers.
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>>42299877
why would I not a want a custom-made hole designed for sex, optimally molded to my boyfriends penis ?

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It is actually infuriatingly insane to me just how hard it is to find a game that lets me play as a character I feel even slightly represented by. I understand why explicitly gay men are so rare because straight men (and most countries) hate them and won't support media that has them but is just letting me play as a cute twink too much to ask?

Popular online games like Fortnite and Marvel Rivals have a lot of character variety because they want to appeal to as many demographics as possible, yet men with normal human anatomy are the one thing off the table. All the men in Rivals have Hulk anatomy and all the men in Fortnite are boringly designed and completey flat all over, despite the women all having *very* defined sexual anatomy in both games.

Does a single other person give a shit about this or is it genuinely just a me problem? I'm so tired of the only source of good male designs always being gacha slop
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>>42298116
>Popular online games like Fortnite and Marvel Rivals have a lot of character variety because they want to appeal to as many demographics as possible, yet men with normal human anatomy are the one thing off the table. All the men in Rivals have Hulk anatomy and all the men in Fortnite are boringly designed and completey flat all over, despite the women all having *very* defined sexual anatomy in both games.
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>>42298765
>>42298824
that is NOT a twink lmao
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>>42299165
Im forced to call any man that looks like a real human a twink because flat asses and hulk muscles are the standard
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>>42298553
You are mentally ill, we do not have control over what we are attracted to. You immature bitches always throw a tantrum and start throwing your buzzwords moment someone is not into masc or normal guys. Grow up, world don't owe you attraction!
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>>42298116
eastern entertainment media has tons of them. Western media loves chad features, that's why angular jaw ass mid niggas like timothee are considered a twink in hollywood.

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Reminder that most boymoders look like the femboys in this photo, but in pants. You are not cute uwu anime girls afraid to girlmode.
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>>42297673
Nude unsee now
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>>42294426
what is the difference between a boymoder and a femboy
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>>42298705
Oink oink piggy
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>>42294426
Put this one on estrogen and teach her how dress properly
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i want to know the history of this photo
who decided to have a femboy convention
why in stuttgart


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