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If you woke up with her gock inside of you, how would you react?
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>>42325384
what have i done to deserve this?
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>>42325399
she figured you need a good dicking
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>>42325384
realistically panic and shit all over the bed
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>>42325399
>what have i done to deserve this?
you dared to reject a would-be west end girl
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>>42325384
call her mommy
>t. bottom chaser

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How can someone claim to oppose 'gender ideology' while also believing in a strict system of rules and ideals corresponding to gender.

Why do we tolerate chuds using words so irresponsibly?
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>>42323820
Do actual women believe you're gibberish? I would assume that it is only geared towards the male audience lol

>subjectivity when it comes to "woman"
There is no subjectivity when it comes to what a woman is. Women are objectively classified and no loser tranny theory changes what a woman is.

I would respect you more if you admitted that this is all cope for your male sexual fetish.
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>>42321050
>Probably 1% of society beliefs a trans woman is a woman. Which means that the difference is not arbitrary
Genuinely hilarious thing to say after getting called a parrot
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>>42323888
>There is no subjectivity when it comes to what a woman is. Women are objectively classified

- "women's suffrage" didn't include black women
- "womanhood" is legally defined by an arbitrary age cutoff
- "women's bathrooms" were invented in the 1850s to appeal to Victorian sensibilities and then enshrined into unified building ordinances mandated by the state
- "womanly" has been used as an insult for men who don't meet cultural norms of masculinity for millennia
- intersex "women" exist
- you will still call me a "woman" irl. Even if I didn't pass, you would anyway, because you're a pussy too afraid of social confrontation to do anything except troll on /lgbt/.

>I would respect you more if you admitted that this is all cope for your male sexual fetish.
I would respect you more if you just admitted you just hate trannies. Pretending to be smart just makes you sound stupider. Just be honest with yourself, faggot.
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>>42323772
>No one argues that a flower is only a flower because humans placed a social construct on what it means to be a flower.
But humans did place a social construct on what it means to be a flower. Why is a pine cone not a flower? The pine cone performs the same reproductive purpose as the flower. The fact we decided to divide the gymnosperms from the angiosperms was, on some level, a social construct.
Also, if I fold a piece of paper into a flower shape, asked someone on the street what it was, 9/10 would call it a "flower." So does the social construct of a "flower" include representations of a flower that are not, "literally" a flower?
>It's only this one subject that earns this type of schizophrenic wrangling that has created an entire industry of authors and quack male scholars to attack women and what it means to be a woman.
Because you decided to use sex & gender as a means to oppress and other people. There was no less hand wringing of what the definition of "Spanish" was in colonial South America, with ridiculous charts trying to arbitrate who is entitled to rights and who is a slave to the in-group.
It's being discussed to death because it has become socially important. Just like how the division between "gymnosperms" and "angiosperms" was socially important to the segment of people obsessed with biological taxonomy.
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>>42316987
Unironically passes as an ugly liberal woman

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/lesgen/ is the lesbian general for all cis women and trans women (MtF) to discuss lesbian relationships and topics.

Be kind to each other and report/ignore trolls who attempt to divide trans mtf lesbians and cis lesbians as a community. This includes transphobic bigotry, femmephobia, butchphobia, racism, and anti-c4t/t4t slop. This is nice thread. :)

QOTT
>Favorite fast food slop meal of choice?
>Do you keep any secrets from your gf?
>Would you want to know if your gf was being unfaithful?
>Have you introduced your gf to your parents?

tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Flesgen%2F
discord: https://discord.gg/bAnVMAGPNR
old thread: >>42279925
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I haven't been on a date in almost 2 years
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>>42324288
Skill issue.
I met a person on this fucking hell site and we are already talking about marriage.
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>>42324285
not the same people desu
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paid 20 bucks for this did i get ripped off?
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>>42324295
she doesnt know chat

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MTFG: Make a thread you lazy troons edition

QOTT: What are you doing for this weekend? January blues setting in?
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>>42325219
Topical min and cant get on dut rn. There are shortages in production lol.
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>>42325219
Also to provide more info. It was always kinda thin, started getting receding hairline at 18 and got on pills immediately. They served me well until last year where i started thinning real bad. After i noticed that i started scalp massages and dermarolling and paid more attention to application of min(used to skip days sometimes before. Not anymore.)
I'm like 80/20 certain i'll be getting on hrt one way or another so i really only need to keep my folicles well and alive. Started taking iron, zinc, vit A, E, D and magnessium suplements too in case its dietary. Oh, and biotin.
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>>42325288
just go bald
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>>42325297
But i dont want to. I want to troon out and be cute.
Its not THAT bad either. It did thin out but there's still hair there. I'm sure it'll get better. And hrt cant hurt either.
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>>42325244
Use one of the online services for it. Prob like 30usd
>>42325288
Sadly nothing really helps existing hairloss really if it's noticeable. You should go get a fue ht in turkey especially if tran. But yes dut and oral min, oral way better than topical

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You know the format.
Include your tag.
This thread is for making friends, and is not a general discussion thread.
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>>42324465
im a man
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>ASL
30s/F

>Interests
Music, listening and occasionally making it! I enjoy a weird wide variety of music but I'd say mostly gazelikes, darkwave, and anything with a similar energy. I can probably (maybe) recommend you stuff you've never heard in those genres!!
My favourite artist is Alcest.
Videogames, I like rock and tree clicking, gear grinding, cute slow life games and some multiplayer questlikes, MH and Darktide and the like. Be warned that I'm not very good at rankedslop type games if that's something you want to do, my mechanics are really quite atrocious.
I enjoy stuff with good worldbuidling and Soul (tm). Always down for weird films with good practical effects or just interesting works in general.

>Looking for
Fellow Olds with solid morals and kindness to chat and occasionally do activities with. I like people who are aware of the reality of the world but still willingly choose hope instead of doom.
Preferably queer people but anyone's okay if you sense the correct energy.
VC is fine for activities or occasional chatting!

>Not looking for

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>asl
24 boymoder socal
>looking for
chats, friends, romance. Local is ideal, but not necessary
>hobbies
mtg, cooking, art, lego, movies, music, video games, math, physics, language
>about me
mentally ill. Not in a mean, psycho way. Just depressive and a loser. But people say I'm sweet and kind
>tag
gingerlygaze_07650
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>asl
18/M/SoCal !!
>looking for
people to talk to and are entertaining, who enjoy autistic rambling 2,,
>not looking for
turbo gooners and mean people
>interests
vn's currently, anime, manga, some classical literature, project moon, music, ermm art 2,, like almost keyword almost anything really
>free space
i reply quick usually unless im enthralled in gaymin
>discord
gamertothemaxx
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>ASL
18, MTF, Bi, Seattle
> About Me
I'm a very clingy and subby trans girl who suffers from severe depression. I will literally message you and pester you to vc or hang out with me. I love cuddling and being the little spoon. Be warned I will trauma dump!
> Looking For
Locals, physical and emotional intimacy
> Not Looking For
Creeps, chasers, one night stands
> Interests
numetal, gaming, kitties
> Discord
sunrise.into.dawn

Will youngshits in the UK be forced to take anti misogyny classes?
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>>42323925
britain living up to their name of TERF island

Holy fuck
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>>42323925
digits say bongs will teach that transitioning is misogynistic
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>>42324592
creating arabs from within the population
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>bait thread
>completely off-topic
>throw dem troons somewhere
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>>42325322

i might actually despise ftfemboys/no t "trans men" more than agp rapehons

at least boomerhons probably have some sort of dysphoria, but these people are literally just women who feel the need to appropriate EVERYTHING after reading too much bl, and make sure ftms can never be taken seriously

i thought all these attentionwhores died after 2021, but apparently some stuck around instead of becoming detransitioners who spread the word about the horrors of changing their name to Ash or Xavier for 6 months

the droves of 50 year olds with sissy kinks are way worse for optics, but something about these women really grinds my gears

mtf btw(feel free to shower with me with praise for my opinions trans guys)
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>>42324867
people dont think ur a amab crossdresser they think ur a trans woman
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>>42324952
I did get that a few times but I just tell them im a man and thats it lol. as long as i'm seen as AMAB its aight to me
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>>42325001
Imo this is the goal of transitioning.
It should be the goal of ftms to look like gorillahons, to be in the top 5% of unpassing transwomen and look like them and ditto for mtfs to look like the top 5% of unpassing gigapoons. It's not about being a normal man/woman, it's abotu looking like someone who can't possibly be the other
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>>42325023
Nooo thats so ugly lol, I dont look like an ugly gorilla, just a normal skinny dude. I prolly look like a normal woman from very far away until I speak. (most cis people only care about the obvious big 3: voice, curves, boobs.)
tldr; I pass while wearing what I want and thats enough to me. i'm glad im an adrogynous fuck
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>>42320271
I'm a cis woman on testosterone and this shotjust makes me suicidal more than anything else. Quick reminder that if you're fembrained and enjoy femininity as a foid there's absolutely NO CHANCE of you EVER ascending to becoming better than that. You're a woman who tricked yourself into falsely wanting to be male and you just have to deal with that for the rest of your life.

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>>42325280
veltail you seem like a decent guy who gets an unfair amount of shit from people on this board so imma be real with you. trannies lie. trannies lie constantly. ayden is one of the better ones at flooding the zone
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>>42325226
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>>42325320
Lie about their hair?
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>>42325400
veltail troon out NOW
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>>42325400
trannies will:
>lie about passing
>lie about how much work they've had done
>lie about who they want to sleep with
>lie about their childhoods
>lie about being intersex

>>42325371
dude in a nightgown
also that's a post ffs hairline

I'm a gay guy but my dream is to find a passing (fully) trans woman to marry me so I can be with someone who is amab but give the appearance of being heterosexual to others. I don't care what parts she has, we will make it work. My family doesn't like me being gay, never has, and this would be a primo loophole.
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>>42325055
femininity can exist and be cherished independently of womanhood, and besides, its just about having a gay relationship I can fool society with
it's about her being female enough to others, not how *I* see her
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If real, we found one of the 12 people willing to marry trans woman.
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>>42325136
I am 100% real. My whole life has been getting bullied for being a faggot and basically dating a man who looks enough like a woman to let me have a normal family and not be stressed out over persecution would be a fucking dream.
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>>42325134
> not how *I* see her
hmm maybe you arent ready for a relationship then if ur rly obsessed with how others see you
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>>42323876
Not exactly me but I want a mtf fujoshi who can have gay roleplayed yaoi sex with me ill still see her as a girl but I want gay sex

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we can always tell if we see if you clearly in person
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>>42325007
why is the best you can say? why are you unable to give good advice?
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>>42325014
its great advice, you are a primitive monkey who belongs in a steamy jungle
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>>42325030
>>42325030
but im just black? you arent making sense. if i was a monkey i wouldnt be able to type. also im asking for passing advice not moving advice silly
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>>42325044
>just
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>>42325421
im confused what ur point is? anyways it wtvr idrc can we just get to the point where you give me passing advice

Once a month I have a sudden urge to drop my major and study to become a librarian and be an important member of my community instead of a disgusting neet scientist. Is this fembrained? Normiebrained?
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STEM trannies are a dime a dozen. I have yet to have met a librarian trans woman. The idea is really cute but don't do it unless you're sure its what you want
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>>42325116
I am not in STEM I am too retarded for that, I am in History like a fat fucking chud.
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>>42325127
You’re the one who said scientist, wtf

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qott: good morning, monday morning, do you have a case of the mondays?

q4c where would you bring your tranner for a date on a monday afternoon?

q4t do you have a case on the mondays?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4B0pLDqYqI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XASNM1XEQPs
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>>42318259
Flying to london heathrow in a few hours.
I’m told that the UK is overall transphobic, are there any venues that are more trans friendly?
Q4C: would be after work, walk around either a beach or garden depending on the season. Finally large pizza
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You post this of yourself? I really wish I could just not give a fuck about being bald and fat like you
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>>42325172
Absolute qt(3.14). Would kiss tummy and more
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>>42325213
tyyyy
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>>42324786
>>42324786
y skip
>>42325210
>>42325213

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Should fully passing trans women be allowed on Grindr?
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>>42325234
All the passing trannies are just prostitutes advertising their services, you should know this shit by now.
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>>42325366
>passing
not with that chin and jaw
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>>42325379
We get it you're jealous now go away we don't want your kind on grindr
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>>42325385
lol keep lusting over a man you tell yourself looks like a woman
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>>42325402
Oh god oh fuck you found lgbt shit on /lgbt/

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thred dead make sure (you) delete the old ones

http://lena.kiev.ua/voice/
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbuymeacoffee.com%2Falyssavt%2Fno-explanations-instructions-feminizing

https://wiki.sumianvoice.com/wiki/pages/voice-examples/

>pasta:

•Tool for visualizing pitch and resonance
https://acousticgender.space/

▶ Resources MTF:
--- Full MTF Course ---
•L's Guide

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https://voca.ro/1aGYxVXqnFF1
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voicegen i missed uu

>>42318875
the second one is more andro but its definitely more subtle. if thats ur goal keep pushing toward it!
>>42319005
i want hold u up like simba to the sun and let u absorb it so youll finally smile. ur good. relax.
>>42323938
yes i started nearly exactly like this hehe. just takes time and practice. come join us ~(>_< )
>>42323836
be nice...
>>42320823
its hard to hear how ur day went ur mic kind of cuts out :( but my day has been okay. i made a little song bc i had to.. and now im almost ready to play videogames and do nothing!
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Man, I'd offer advice if I had the merit to do so.
Anyways, I don't really know anything to type for this. MTF for what that's worth. I'm insecure rn about coming off as bait? which is silly cuz saying that... hfa;kjfdh, you get the picture
https://voca.ro/1jkgZU746cwk
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>>42325180
Hey same person, tried that one shortcut thingie... right after i took my sleep meds. anyways i hope this sounds better. i'm fucking tired and will see tomorrow https://voca.ro/1aQr2e7qR3UP

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>QOTT: What's your breakfast beverage?
I'm now strictly black coffee in the morning. I don't eat breakfast until late morning so I can intermittent fast. Hopefully I'll either lose weight so I feel less disgusted by myself or be in better shape for when I inevitably troon out as a disgusting lateshit.
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>>42325112
I have rich parents who sent me to college, but the rest didn't happen because I'm a miserable repper.
I would literally be set for life if I could just be happy as a man, it's such a waste. I really wish that someone with a functioning brain was born instead of me.
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>>42325158
goodbye anon, I hope you make it
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>>42325261
i seriously endured so much stress in high school, i know that sounds pathetic but i really did, i was dying inside constantly and it was all for nothing. i wish i was normal too, i wish i could go back in time and fix my mental illness so i could be social and happy
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>>42325212
Right, that's why one partner always presents himself as straight and the other partner always presents himself as gay
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>>42325158
based


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