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My mom constantly says how "in America you can't disagree with da gays but um if they can be gay then I can disagree too!" Also she's transphobic
Anyway, does this mean I can get a future bf/ tgirl gf?
She has gay friends btw, no idea about her opinions on them but they seem to be fine together
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To add on, she said if you're born something you are that thing (clearly she doesn't think that tgirls have the female gender identity) and she doesn't like fags I guess..............
I once told her that I'd prefer a bf over a gf about a year ago but I'm 80% sure that that's been erased from her memory
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>>42204340
what your mom said was unintelligible, so nobody knows what the fuck that means in regards to your future partner
lots of people don't think "gender identity" is a thing; you said she has gay friends, so how can she dislike fags?
i dont get it.
i dont get a single post of yours.
are you even an adult? 4chan is an 18+ site.
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>>42204484
I don't get what she says sometimes, obviously she's talking about "wokeness" and cancel culture and how you can't disagree with (in her words)homos or transvestites
I have zero clue on her thoughts on gay men, really it's a mystery

Legally I am 18
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>>42204340
Most normies who are either trnasphobic or homophobic would are rather chill with those who aren't straight nor cis as long as they think the said individual are pleasant to hang around with. Though that might not make them any less homophobic nor transphobic though.
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>>42204559
Yeah I think she's only fine with gays she's friends with
She won't like it if I was gay I guess
And she definitely won't see any tranny as their actual gender

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anyone else addicted to dysphoria fuel? i love making myself feel bad for looking at real girls and mentally comparing myself
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>>42202821
Sometimes I wish I was cis, but then I remember periods are a thing and then I'm like "fuck no"
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>>42204547
i would rather be cis and deal with periods than be a tranny
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>>42204549
You say that only because the grass seems greener on the other side. Ask any sane cis woman if she would accept the pill that made the periods stop without any drawbacks otherwise, vast majority of them would say "yes" in a heartbeat.
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>>42204558
it's a necessary evil to so i can have a uterus/have children. i would gladly deal with periods monthly if it meant i was able to get pregnant, nona.
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>>42202821
yes, i literally look at pics of jenny Kim all the time on pinterest and it makes me happy because she's adorable to me but it also makes me want to die

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How can you tell the difference between a real trans person and someone who's just an AGP?
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>>42202777
>How can you tell the difference between a real trans person and someone who's just an AGP?
If they are physically existent, then they are a real trans person, and if your hand passes through them when you try to touch them then that's how you know they're AGP.
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how the fuck can someone be an accelerated graphics port?
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>>42202777
real trannies are AGP. HSTS are by definition gay men. what you may be thinking of is reddit trannies
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>>42202837
>to me "real" trans women have a womanly aura to them even pre-transition, like a very feminine spirit and behavior.
Since i was 13 i would always get randomly asked if I'm gay in any new social setting or people would remark that I'm gay or look gay even once when i was dressed like a typical boy with af1s skinny jeans and a black hoodie lmfao. and when i met one of my internet friends irl he said i had a vibe like i was listening to Britney Spears in my headphones.
but i feel like i lost part of my femininity for wanting to be the top in t4t sex. but i also really enjoy being chased by chasers and honestly get more "emotionally" excited by the idea of bottoming for a chaser, and since i was younger i always noticed i would get insanely more turned on from sexting men than women.
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>>42204545
That's funny isn't it. I can be masculinely styled (short hair, muscular, men's clothing), and someone will still say their something feminine about me. It's like that meme with chad and an incel and they both have the same haircut, but only the incel gets told his haircut is ugly. For example I've gotten, I have feminine lips, feminine eyebrows, look like a clocky tranny, am a pretty boy. All while being styled in a way that isn't even unconventional for a guy.

i'm a cis guy in my late 20s and i've been on estrogen for over a year to try and get rid of my autogynephilia. i've been growing my hair longer and getting laser for my facial hair.

my agp has mostly gone away but i still sometimes get aroused imagining myself as a woman so it's not perfect

i know i'm making a huge mistake and i don't want to appropriate what real trans people go through but i also don't want to stop taking estrogen as i do feel better mentally and physically

can someone just tell me i'm a freak and a potential threat to trans women's rights if i don't stop
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>>42204479
nta but i am trans and you are not. the truth is that there is nothing wrong with being agp in the first place. do hrt and get laser if you want to. you are hurting no-one by doing things to make yourself happy.
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>>42204503
I don't enjoy living in general and i don't think being a man or trans woman would change that. Probably worse if i was a trans woman
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>>42204512
you are not [a freak]*, by the way.
>>42204529
but if you do not want to be trans you don't have to be trans. be a cis man on estrogen and look pretty and be agp. you're still a normal person. you are okay.
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>>42204529
>been on e to get rid of agp
????
Quitting porn probably would've been smarter
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>>42204529
well think it's a really bad idea to take estrogen as a cis man. i can't tell you if you're trans or not, but you should get off e if you decide you're cis. it won't "get rid of [your] autogynephilia". that makes no sense.

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I regularly come to this board to remind myself that I am not a tranny. Seeing how horrible gender dysphoria really is always reassures me that I'm just overly dramatic and feel nothing like it. I'm really sorry you are suffering so much because of mere chance
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>>42197490
groomer bait ahh thread
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>>42197490
>I regularly come to this board to remind myself that I am not a tranny

That's me a decade into repping. Or me ~3 years before I started hrt.
You'll join us eventually, nona. And we'll welcome you when you're ready.
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>>42204400
That won't happen because I'm not dysphoric like you all. Hope your transition is going well though. Wish you all the best
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>>42204461
>I'm not dysphoric like you all
I wasn't dysphoric either. I was just fascinated about being a woman. In the end I just wanted to try. Much to my shock, it worked really well and I'm lowkey upset I didn't start earlier.

>Hope your transition is going well though. Wish you all the best
Thank you. It has gone well. 14 years into it. Perhaps too well that it alienated me from the online trannies.
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>>42204518
I wouldn't say I'm fascinated by being a woman at all. I'm sure it is just as mundane as being guy is, and I certainly feel a sense of estrangement thinking about what it would be like.
There's just sometimes the passing "what if" thought, just as I may wonder what my life would've been like if I were born somewhere else or in another time period

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can someone help me parse this *1995* study? my porn-addled agp brain can't make out complex language like this
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>>42204448
*are more like female brains than male brains
t. ESL
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>>42204420
It's sad that we will never get quality studies again because leftists think biological aspect of gender dysphoria is irrelevant and nazis don't want trans people to exist at all and want them all dead.
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>>42204448
dude i got it, i was being sarcastic
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>>42204556
>i was merely pretending to be retarded
but to what end
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>>42204533
>again
lol
>leftists and nazis
nothing inbetween, huh?
>nazis have influence on what studies are done
you must be pretending at this point, yes?

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do you have hypermobility or soft, stretchy skin, nona? apparently ehler-danlos syndrome is more common in troons.
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>>42204334
okay then maybe i have hypermobility then
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>>42204086
I basically have hitchhikers thumb on both joints of my thumb. When I was little I could easily bend all my fingers to touch the back of my hand, although I can't do that anymore. Besides that I have pretty normal mobility though
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you don
t have ehlers danlos. you aren't hyperflexed. you can't dislocate your rotator cuffs at will. you can only be dfiagnosed with a genetic marker test. you are making shit up. go fuck yourself.

sincerely,
gay nurse
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>>42204387
no one here was diagnosing anyone. you see picture evidence of hyperflexibility and say that its not real because no diagnosis. do cancer patients get cancer when they get thw diagnosis too?
>using nurse status as a point of authority
you cant even diagnose people you are not a medical expert you retard
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>>42204387
There's no genetic marker test for the most common form of Ehlers Danlos syndrome, which is the one associated with trannies, there's been studied on it. It's diagnosed based on symptoms.

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1177/23258292251382250

https://www.eds.clinic/articles/growing-up-with-ehlers-danlos-syndrome-27-telltale-signs
https://patient.info/bones-joints-muscles/ehlers-danlos-syndrome-leaflet

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i really fucking want to kill myself i hate myself so much i just want to die
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k
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>>42203637
Have you thought about not wanting to kill yourself?
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>>42203637
dunno how to comfort you but i hope you choose to stay alive. take care of yourself.
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>>42203637
ermmmm ok ty for telling us
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>>42203637

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okay so story time!!! i was working uber eats and i was at the 7/11 and this homeless guy with one leg on a wheelchair said happy new year and so obviously i said it back and he was like WAIT HOW ARE U SO BEAUTIFUL BUT U SOUND LIKE A GUY and i was like "because i am one' not wanting to explain trannies to some random guy and he asks if i still have a penis and i say yes. this is the crazy part. HE REACHES INTO MY CAR AND TOUCHES MY INNER THIGH TRYNA FEEL AROUND IF I WAS LYING ABOUT HAVING A COCK!!!! SO FUCKING FREAKY!!!
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>>42204444
i wanna be like you but im not manipulative enough
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why the fuck is everyone here so misogynistic and weird??!?! instead of a single "are u okay" or "thats really scary" all of u are just trying to police me and diminish my experience... please just open your heart and imagine how you would feel if it happened to you okey?
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i just want to be kind to people without you all thinking i'm inviting ppl to rape me! i want to exist without ppl policing what i do to my body! i want people to care about the weird ass shit i go through especially fellow women without being made out to be some pervert freak! i had something bad happen and i wanted support but i won't make the mistake of looking for it here again!
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>>42204456
>>42204470
Thank you for your compliments
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>>42204434
>>42203404
bait or reddit, call it. either way, go back

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Qott: Would you ever abandon your boy?
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nightmares everynight teehee
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what kind of nightmares do you have
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>>42203708
people having sex in front of me
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>>42195088
Don't pretend like you didn't love it you dumb sissy bitch, you were definitely asking for it.
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>>42195217
>i think im going to eat a lot of food
If you want to keep feeling desired you better not

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>"i want a bf.jpg"
>starts looking for bf
>uh oh, cant find anyone
>starts looking EVERYWHERE
>ignores that hes literally not my type and forces the relationship
>relationship ends bad (ofc it did bruh)
>in the meantime gets used by anyone who approaches you hoping you have hopes with them but they just want to jerk off to fresh meat (low quality chasers bruh)

is this really what dating is like? am I doomed to never find the one and just be comformist with whatever normie chaser i get?
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>>42204458
>I'm just pointing out what anon posts
That's not true. She said they think their BF is high quality while you tried to make her doubt it. Why are you lying?
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>>42204475
I pointed out that what she was saying wasn't in line with what she said before
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>>42204475
gaslighting other chicks to their detriment is very fembrained, good on you!
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>>42204212
This is fake.
>>42204225
They're fake.
>>42204426
You don't even know what that is. Nothing happy about a lie.
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>>42204436
This is obv BS but kill yourself anyway.

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i imagine it sucks for them tho but they prob always got someone who looks even worse
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>>42203883
I look slightly more feminine, and I am pre E. Anyways if this is a mtf, you really shouldn't do a pulled back hairstyle, and leave the eyebrows bushy like that....
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>>42204039
anonette if that's you fix your style, your styling is really really bad for passing.
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>secured a gooner from this op image
>get called a twinkhon
>3 months
ygmi, and if ygmi it means igmi, winning.
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>>42204216
>got groomed at 17
You know, somehow i don't feel so bad about being a weird manmoder anymore, i have the world of science and a boyfriend to keep me distracted anyways.

At a certain point it becomes a point of pride to see your own shadow and it looks like a comic book hero, knowing what you are is somehow that thing and internally feminine at the same time. I suppose it still stings a little, but so do many other things.
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>>42204377
thank you. i know. i had my hair in a ponytail for the pic and im trying to style my brows but idk how.
>>42204385
i hope so. but my midface is super long.crazy how some guys hate thread got more attention than my og one... ygmi 2

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19, 3 months on E. i still haven't started voice training. is this retarded? i just can't bring myself to use a voice that isn't natural to me. idk am i autistic? what do i do? how do i even start?
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>>natural voice
>croaking back of the throat consonants
>cant vary pitch easily so YELL to EMPHASIZE
>has to literally use the "*false* folds" to raise pitch

OK nona
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>>42204399
i don't know what many of those words mean...
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>>42204411
Just start training nona
youtube com/watch?v=BfCS01MkbIY
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>>42204186
teah this is what retarded cissoids and apparently retarded trannies dont get. your current relaxed voice is no more natural than your post-voicetraining relaxed voice. everyone is speaking in some learned manner and voice training is merely adjusting the manner. there is no rational reason to think of the voice you firat learned to speak in as more natural than any other manner of speaking you could do. the way you first learn to speak is HIGHLY cultural. thats why chinese men all sound nasaly and sing songy, while finnish men sound bored.
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>>42204133
you can start voice training just to practice using it and building muscle memory for your voice in general. your voice can kind of degrade over time if you don't use it. you can absolutely start voice training just to improve your control over your current voice, so either way, starting is a great idea

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post ur charts
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>>42204062
Bicurious cis
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>>42200900
++Sewerslvt, 100 gecs
-Semetary
gotta be transbian or bi mtf.
>>42200912
+OPN
chaser
>>42201039
-Semetary
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>>42201191
I'm guessing mtf purely because of the drainer stuff, probably bishit
>>42201636
++++++Venetian Shares, holy mother of based alert
mtf
>>42204013
-ICP
Probably a pooner or something idk
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my top 25 from last year
>42200900
holy zoomer lol
++ismof, gecs, lucy bedroque
>>42200912
+chet baker
>42201039
yeah makes sense
>42201106
+swans
i've been meaning to get into boris
mtf
>42201191
+bassvictim
ftm?

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>>42204328
Cis gay
>>42204394
Gigahon

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whoever made this glegle i think its really cool :)
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i made the original gleglee but i dont thin you meant me
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>>42204320
please rope, your abomination is used by the most annoying of trannies.
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>>42204407
Shan't. Stay mad about those who would embrace authenticity.


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