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some highlights after interviewing 567 androphilic mtfs and 781 lesbian mtfs

>one commonly occurring type of mtf is a former gay boy
>this type doesn't transition for sex but for dating. they report a higher satisfaction with romantic partners post transition and claim to transition because their post transition dating pool includes men they perceive as being of 'higher' quality. this may include both physical attractiveness and the way they're treated by these men compared to how they were treated when dating strictly gay men
>this type values romance and long term relationships more than sex
>often early to mid transitioners. rarely late transitioners

i have identified 4 other categories of mtf some that i believe have not been identified in other academic research on this topic. AMA
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>>42163329
did you come across the nerdy effeminate since childhood gynophile archetype yet?
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>>42164846
That's just AGP.
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>>42163329

This is literally what transphobes say, I don't understand you. Why are you doing this.
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>>42164821
AGP just means that you get sexually aroused simply by looking/dressing like a woman
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>>42163919
lemme guess fourth is autopedos?

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The most attractive feature a femboy can have is a micropenis
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>>42161572
uncut is more feminine since it keeps the head sensitive and pink and that's a ROCK FACT
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>>42159870
how small is small?
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>>42159870
The most attractive feature is the body who wants to have sex with a microdicked fat slob
Also big dick femboys>>>>
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>>42164857
I agreee with both of those statements
t. fat slob
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Smooth fat femboys can actually be very hot

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rate ppl, guess letters, call ppl posers, do whatever idec
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>>42162439
sorry im blind and retarded and a little high i thought all the touhous were to the left..
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>>42162124
close bi cis male

Im getting either gay cis woman or bi mtf

updated chart also
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>>42161851
>>42162124
>gay ftm
>gay cis male
considering im a bi mtf im not sure how to take this, does listening to one "rap" (theres a lot of pop too) album make me malebrained now????
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>>42163752
gaybrained is not malebrained
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>>42161638
>>42153188
It's kinda funny everyone thinks im mtf, people irl tell me i have tranny taste in music. Ig listening to dnb, breakcore, and incelcore makes you a tranny now

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i would accept a non-op tranny as a girlfriend, but i would never fuck xher ass, because that's disgusting af
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>>42164208

Anal isn't gross with an experienced prepped bottom with a lasered or shaved asshole. I even bleached mine so it's pink like a porn actor
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>>42164740
Its a shitter so its always nasty
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>>42164273
Reasonable anon. Fwiw I would fuck you like crazy. You sound hot and I wish i could make love to a beautiful trans girl so bad

>>42164740
>>42164756

As long as they take showers and do basic cleaning you should have no problem doing it with protection. Liking trans women and being against anal is very odd
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>>42164810
>Liking trans women and being against anal is very odd
Who said I like trans women
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>>42164844
Your OP specified non op trannies so I assumed youre looking for a trans woman, what else could that mean?

how do you choose between the two? i'm a neverpassing hon, and by that i mean no hope of passing whatsoever at any point in the future. i have a very masculine and uncanny face and FFS is extremely unlikely to tip me into passing territory even if i do afford it someday. i can't convincingly manmode because of other aspects of my appearance. i honmode socially, that means using a female name and dressing in women's clothing primarily. this has been the case for coming up on five years now and i've never actually faced violence or anything for being trans, even verbal harassment is something that just hasn't happened to me in three or four years by now. people in public just quietly disapprove but don't really tend to get involved. at the same time it does sort of hurt a lot to feel rejected, i'm super sensitive to it and it hasn't really started to hurt less with the years (if anything it hurts more).

i have something resembling a community or group of friends irl who treat me generally well. we just don't talk about the trans thing and never have, they don't seem to have a problem referring to me with a female name and pronouns. i think it helps that my voice is very feminine even if the rest of my appearance leans male. it helps a bit to hang out with them, but my other daily interactions tend to drain me. i have given serious thought to detransition but it feels a bit awkward to broach the subject with people i know irl as i've never talked about being trans with them in the first place. i'm about to start a new job too where i already stupidly gave my female name. should i just make steps towards detransitioning and drop everything and move somewhere else?
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>>42164807
get srs
become vagbro
hang out with dickbros
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>>42164876
wish i could afford it. i do have genital dysphoria, i feel like a vagina would look really weird on me because of how unpassing i am though.

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Why do you hate cis males ?
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>>42164752
Not a real issue. You are more likely to get raped by another man than being falsely accused by a woman.
This is the retarded unlogical stuff that I mentioned. I bet you think of yourself as very smart or something
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I find I don't hate most men but I do hate men. Masculinity has for thousands and thousands of years been defined by power and control- the subjugation of women that it inherently views as lesser.
I have many men in my life that I love, but even the best of them still exhibit that worldview at some time or another
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>>42164789
I don't know a single person in my live who got raped by a dude, although i personally knew 3 guys that got falsely accused of rape

Try again
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>>42164789
You don't actually know anything about the stats, you just blindly regurgitate the tortured statistics used to shock idiots like yourself. Men get raped, by women. Men get abused, by women. Men get harassed, by women.
For someone who accuses men of being illogical and incapable of empathy...
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>>42164657
>>42164627

wow ya'll really bringing out the rhetorical sledgehammer today

what to do when you have boymoders in your walls and under your floorboards?
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>>42162623
>hehe :3
>>42162664
>planet of the moders
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>>42162672
Everyone's chasing everyone today!! X3

Ok, sleeptime again, phase 2! Talk to you later! T... thanks for the star trek:3c
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>>42162725
>Everyone's chasing everyone today!! X3
Boymoders have a natural prey drive and will instinctively chase someone who runs away. That's why common advice is to stand still if you startle a strange boymoder!
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>>42162725
shleep well :3
>>42162778
>:3 hehe gonna bite u
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>>42162778
Except for wolfmoders.... with wolfmoders, YOU'RE the prey!!! >:3 >:3 >:3

>>42162820
eeee no bite! X3

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have you ever been caught assfucking and/or getting assfucked, anon?
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>>42163316
I roleplayed getting caught the other day by a chaser
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>>42163483
wdym you roleplayed it? did a chaser actually fuck you or was it someone pretending to be a chaser
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>>42163490
A guy I've hooked up with before suggested "catching" me doing some butt stuff while dressed up so we did. Scenario was he was changing the oil in my car and got done faster than I thought, so he "caught" me playing with my toy and then railed me until he came balls deep inside me

Was super hot ngl
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>>42163726
I've never had sex in a car but wouldn't that stink it up
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>>42163726
we fucking next

Homura edition

Previous: >>41924395

>QotT
Who's your waifu/husbando?

Tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Fbigen%2F

FAQ:
>Am I bi if I like women and femboys/traps?
>Am I bi if there's this one member of the same-sex I'm desiring, but normally I like the opposite sex?
>Am I bi if I sexually like both sexes, but only interested in romance with one of them?
Yes, sexual attraction to both sexes is bisexuality.
>Do you have presents ready for me Santa?

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>>42163893
>An arrangement like this should help, no?
Not her, but no. I'm bi, gf is bi, we've discussed having same-sex partners on the side for fun. But we absolutely wouldn't do that if our base relationship was not sexually satisfying. Having a partner who cares about getting her off would only grow the resentment that she has towards her boyfriend.
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>>42164078
Fair. I tried to correct the first part of my reply in the second, I think you're right that it's not a solution for gross sexual dissatisfaction.
I didn't think of how it's something that may provide more satisfaction on top of a good sexual dynamic, but if either or both are insecure / dissatisfied sexually with the other then it could make that worse too.
>for fun
That's the point I disagree with, I think there's a real qualitative difference and the potential benefit is more than just "more fun" or "enjoyment".
But you're right that having same-sex partners (or more partners in general) can in various circumstances exacerbate existing relationship issues.
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>>42164128
>That's the point I disagree with, I think there's a real qualitative difference and the potential benefit is more than just "more fun" or "enjoyment".
I mean we both have close friends of both genders and a strong relationship with each other, so for us it would just be for fun. But regardless of reason, adding others when your fundamental relationship is unsatisfying will only make your fundamental relationship worse.
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My partner is a pan enby and I'm a mostly gay bisexual man
Basically Im attracted to their masculinity but can appreciate their fem side
They called me this morning and basically said they really wanted to go to a sapphic night at a local gay bar alone and that's kinda troubling news to me. It sounds to me like that event is basically a singles night so everyone there is going in with the idea that everyone else is looking to hook up and that makes me pretty uncomfortable
They told me they want more female friends and he wants to explore his feminine side more but it still bothers me that they want to go alone and they want to go to an event like that to find friends
I should have that conversation with them but them telling me all that has put a damper on my morning
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>Finally download grindr
>Meet up with my first femboy
>He dressed up for me.
>Feel a deep need to treat him right.
>He whispers the name of one of my fave fictional characters when I bottom out inside him
>Lean into it despite it being a bottom character.
I think it fixed me. Keep fighting, frens. You can win.

why are ftms so... nice
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>>42161612
:-)
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>>42161183
Because they are the kindest
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>>42161249
evil gook
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>>42164749
.....im not evil
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>>42161183
I guess I could eat one if they were ripped

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i have never seen a tranny that was cute and valid
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>>42162104
invalids are less likely to protest if you hold them down and suck them to completion
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>>42162104
no. you are all ugly
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>>42161986
maybe you should try looking in the mirror anon
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>>42162088
>look
>chomosomally
do you all have somali immigrants hired to move your goalposts
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>>42164546
chromosome create structures; they are blueprints for cellular buildings

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Would transition saved him?
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He was an effeminate gay man, and people deny it to this day because they are ashamed such men exist and could become popular.
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Unironically he was NB and gynophilic and I will die on that hill
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>>42164620
He was transracial doe

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a sneak passgen before new years.

Passoids only
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>>42163932
YOURE HOT plain and simple
>>42163567
>>42160660
>>42152735
>>42150694
delicious
>>42158831
dick hardeningly cute
>>42156778
You need to be held down and mounted by a real man who shows you what a little girl you are.
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>>42163952
If I attent the men's bathroom still, you can do so too.
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>>42164712
attend*
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>>42144684
where is the milk coming from?
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>>42164280
>Sperm is not cool or in fashion

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If I wasn't interested in penises, I would be romantically pursuing real women instead.
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>>42162420
I'm a male. There is another thread up right now that shows you graphs what turns on hetero men
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>>42164134
phallometry isn't accurate
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>>42164264
Combined with subjective arousal, it is. Cope gay boy
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>>42164682
No it isnt. Arousal is altered by being in a lab setting and being studied.
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>>42164702
It is accurate. Lab setting is pretty nice. Cope harder gay boy, nobody likes your body

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I am God's strongest cisf pooner chaser (yes I'm a repper) and it seems like I come across a new pooner who decides he's a "gay male" every week or so. WHY do so many of them go into this weird lesbian > lesbian ftm > gay man ftm > detrans straight woman pipeline?

It has been a fear of mine for a while now but I came across this article today and it set everything off again.
https://betachronicles.substack.com/p/her-strong-and-recurrent-fantasy

>How and why does this happen
I need to understand the inner working behind it

>How do I prevent him from going through the pipeline?
Immoral answers preferred. I need something that works.
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>>42160547
SSRI damage is permanent
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>>42160363

Actually, it isn't commonly talked about because "transbians" are anything but honest about their actual orientation, but it is very common for AGP trsnsbians to enter puberty as effeminate gay boys, then repress and try to become straight boys to avoid the dysphoria of being a homosexual and also because of family rejection and abuse. (This happens to tons of southern trannies) then they become the "malebrained gooner incel" type of AGP and being a "lesbian" becomes a gateway into transitioning for them (i.e. feminizing themselves and fagging out). As they inject themselves with estrogen and unrepress their feminity, the attraction to men comes back, but they repress it and call it "Meta attraction" or some such, and try to deny it. That's why you see a lot of them being t4t (cuz they want dick) and open their relationships (not satisfied dating a woman). So sometimes they stay in the transbian phase forever but usually they eventually accept they're straight leaning bi and then begin migrating out of the "trans community"

This describes me and a shocking amount Of my trans friends: it's the classic autistic transbian 18+ transition, a lot of the messy details aren't talked about, also most transbians in 4chan spaces are in years 1-2 HRT. I am just sketching this out as the AMAB version of the pooners OP was talking about. The root cause is autism.
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>>42158567
you need to date me (a butch lesbian repper) instead
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>>42159777
why would anyone want to look like this when they could just look like a strong butch
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>>42158567
i was never a lesbian (kinsey 2) but tbqh i stopped interacting with women (unintentionally) post-transition and then i lost all attraction to women and find them inherently ugly now


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