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/lesgen/ is the lesbian general for all cis women and trans women (MtF) to discuss lesbian relationships and topics.

QOTT
>Are you a fan of enemies to lovers? Favorite lesbian trope?
>How do you decorate your room? Would you date someone with a messy room?
>What songs do you listen to when you’re falling in love? During a breakup?
>How will you celebrate the new year? Will you have a new year’s kiss?

tagmap: https://tagmap.io/tag/%2Flesgen%2F
discord: https://discord.gg/bAnVMAGPNR
old thread: >>42115509
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>>42166831
oh i'm not cis i just like vaginas..maybe could like another tranner's penis but i've never really been in the right space to try that
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>>42166662
No, there are a few particular users changing the character this week. Supposedly manmoders or guys? Why not banned?
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>>42166922
yeah same i only like piv i am seeking a cis female to impregnate
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i keep getting uti's and i don't know why
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>>42167018
The focus on impregnation first feels creepy to me...
>>42166662
>yucky gen
It seems to go through cycles of being kinda gross and being kinda boring. Not long ago people were complaining that the thread was boring because it was just people talking about their lives and experiences. I caught some flak during that period - heck, my name popped up in another gen with someone saying they hate my guts? *shrug*
>Nine Sols
I liked it, but Ill admit it's very much a 7/10 or 8/10 game. It's very parry heavy mechanics wise. Think 2D Sekiro. The core gameplay loop is about using precisely timed parties to build up talisman energy that you use to deal heavy damage back. Some of the later bosses are brutally difficult. The final boss in particular took me a long time to knock over in her true form just because of how fast and punishing everything was. But the flow state from everything locking into place was just so so good to me.
Im a fan of harder games in general, mind. I consider stuff like Dark Souls and Bloodborne to be kinda mid as far as difficulty goes. If put Nine Sols in line with FromSoft games like those in terms of difficulty overall - with the final boss herself far exceeding any of the challenges from those games (I kinda suck at parries, lol)

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i been thinking about transitioning ,but i think i am too old for HRT
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>>42163721
I started hrt at 19 but I'm still a manmoder
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>>42163721
It is never too late. Time will pass and you will age regardless of what you do. Imagine yourself in your 50s. I don't know how old you are, but I'm going to assume that's 2 or 3 decades down the line for you. Think about how long that is relative to your life so far. Do you want to repress for another 2-3 decades and be treated like a man? Do you want another 2-3 decades in a testosterone-dominant body you aren't comfortable in? I assume not. I assume you'd rather be on estrogen for a couple decades and have a body that aligns closer to your identity.
>inb4 "but i won't pass so it's literally not worth trying :("
Consider the following: If you try, you may or may not pass. If you don't try, you are guaranteed to not pass and will become less passing the longer you wait.
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>>42164525
just because i turned into a woman doesn't mean i wasn't one of the bros
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>cut off
are u retarded?
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>>42164912
Mt girlfriend has been socially out for a year while I've been hrtboymoding since August now. I'm 32 and have known about my tranny thoughts die probably 20 fucking years now, shit maybe longer actually. She's been super encouraging and is giving me the confidence to truly be myself and give it my all

>>42166326
Same here! I was still blending in with femboy spaces and have the twinkiest body possible. Tbh I don't even know what my "style" even is. How did you figure that out yourself?

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i feel guilty about being an idf solider but i pass better while wearing the uniform
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>>42166927
Please rape me, I've been a very bad little Palestinian boy
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>>42167109
no thanks
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>>42167159
Understandable have a nice day

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This pairing won
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>>42167006
im a nazi and every black ive met has been transphobic
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>>42167029
no i meant what the fuck is ur pic
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>>42167061
say ack commie-hon!
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Love always wins. A single flame of love, or a loveflame If you will, is transcendently immanently beyond all of the crass evil of hate.
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>>42166840
I love my black boyfriend

In what sense have you transitioned?

You grew tits and longer hair? That's just a midlife crisis, two decades early.

You secretly wear panties under your clothes? So do a quarter of CEOs.

You take estradiol? So do looksmaxxers for their glow-ups.
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>>42167038
all my documents are updated and aside from family people only know me as a woman now
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>>42167083
>introduce myself as my preferred gender
>Hello, I am female.
Kek. I'd buy you a drink if you used this line on me.
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>>42167111
you know I'm probably autistic and high functioning enough to get away with it too.
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>>42167038
i mean i updated my ID, use a female name, wear women's clothing etc but none of it really matters because people just see me as a normal man who crossdresses. i don't see myself as trans because transition just isn't physically possible for me.
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>>42167038
true

t. manmoder with tits and long hair

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why are azn boys, and bottoms by extension, like this?
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all bottoms are asian
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>>42166929
BWC withdrawl symptoms

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>what is INTERGEN?
INTERGEN is a general for intersex people to talk to each other about their experiences or just to hang out

>what is an intersex person?
Intersex people are those born with any of several sex characteristics, including chromosome patterns, gonads, or genitals that do not fit typical binary notions of male or female bodies

>am I intersex?
We are not doctors, please seek medical advice, but dont be afraid to ask questions here to maybe understand things better

>are trans people intersex?
Trans people are not inherently intersex, however an intersex person can transition if they want, “neurologically intersex” is not real as being intersex pertains to the sex organs or hormonal productions

>how is this /lgbt/?
We share similar experiences of discrimination and social prejudice based on sex and gender norms, even though intersex is a variation of sex characteristics, not a gender identity or sexual orientation itself
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>>42164563
We accidentally made a generation of MtFs in Gen X by giving pregnant mothers DES, a synthetic estrogen, during pregnancy to help with pregnancy symptoms. Whoops!

Not a DES baby, kleinfelters and take female HRT, but it was a fucking fight to get that, let me tell you.
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>>42165371
It’s amazing to be home on such a blustery day
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>>42166233
DES was uniquely awful but this is actually contested, with other sources claiming lower odds of mtf transition in that population vs. the general population. And everyone's favorite rodent-based theory of gender identity hinges on the action of estrogen (usually derived from testosterone by local aromatase) on the developing brain.
But as always in sexology we just ignore evidence that contradicts our claims.
>>42165387
I don't think most people would argue with you that some things are correlated, but even pretty significant prenatal hormone variations failed to reliably produce homosexuality in that study.
To the extent there are biological underpinnings to sexuality and gender identity in humans (and there certainly is evidence that hints that there are biological underpinnings) they are poorly understood. We can find correlations but that doesn't mean we know if the relationship is causal, or what the mechanism is.

But going back to
>intersex behavior and neurology
Am I wrong to say that the vast majority of homosexuals have no identifiable DSD? That homosexuality emerges in humans despite no significant difference in sex organ anatomy, hormone production, or hormone sensitivity?
Why is homosexuality any more intersex than being unusually short or unusually tall?
How far do we take it? If I'm AMAB but I have strong maternal instincts is that an intersex trait? Why does brain think I'm a mommy? Do I go ahead and put an intersex flag up in my lawn on that basis alone?
What's the limit?
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>>42166789
that prenatal hormones and orientation are related in humans mirrors the same observation as rats, which we can reliably produce homosexuality in, by giving larger doses of prenatal hormones (the adrenal gland, obviously, isn't the body's major source of testosterone)
claiming we don't have a good standard of evidence on the causality at this point is cope

>Why is homosexuality any more intersex than being unusually short or unusually tall?
because androphilia and gynephilia are specifically sex associated characteristics in a way that height isn't, and they're associated with other sexed neurological and physiological changes

> If I'm AMAB but I have strong maternal instincts is that an intersex trait?
if you are a feminized homosexual male you should also be a bit more maternal

>Do I go ahead and put an intersex flag up in my lawn on that basis alone?
depends what you want to do with that flag, doesn't it?
homosexuality, transness and intersexness are all interlinked, and from a philosophical and apologetic point of view, i like showing they can be seen as variations between masculinity and femininity on an intersex spectrum
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>>42166896
So the fact that if you give a pregnant rat megadoses of testosterone it turns her daughters gay (does it, or does it just prevent the lordosis reflex from developing?) doesn't mean every human lesbian developed under the influence of megadoses of prenatal testosterone. Obviously. So, absent evidence a particular lesbian developed that way, why would we call her intersex?
Do you think all lesbians are even butch? Do you think all gay men are the stereotypical flamers?
Nearly every "sex associated characteristic" exists as two overlapping but distinct distributions, which means you inevitably get individuals who are outliers on one or more traits. Does that mean the entire human population is intersex?

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Current body vs goals
Gotta dream big (she was fat and had lipo/BBL)
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>>42165971
where do i get that sweater/dress
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>>42166699
900000 variants on Shein for 5 dollars
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>>42165971
Most cis woman don't look like that lower your goals
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>>42166699
New Yorker
>>42166880
I said that myself by calling it dreaming big and pointing out that she had surgery done to look like that

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the worst part about being a straight boymoder is that any guy you date is always going to have a little bit of chaser in him. this means that he's going to keep trying to involve your disgusting rapestick during sex and completely killing the mood for you. my bf seems to only sorta enjoy sex unless I relent and let him ruin my mental health for a while.
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is it bad if I fetishize girlcocks and wanna play with them but only if they're small and useless and permalimp so I can rub them like a clit or just put them in an inverted cage and slap her balls with my dick to make her whimper?
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>>42166924
no this is based
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>>42165887
>>42165993
>he's gay we're both faggots i'm a man waaahh
>rapestick
how about you just stop hating yourself so much and instead focus on the good things
you're probably some bdd passoid anyway. people who post this shit always are.
it's not dysphoria making you miserable, it's just you.
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>>42166924
I love doing this to black boys with my BWC, calling them my little nigger-bitch.
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First i need to meet a guy
To date

Such a cruel world

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I was so excited to start hrt when I was fifteen and lurking this board habitually. It's been nearly half a decade. Why did I only start this month? Has anyone else fucked up like this or am I alone?
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>>42163994
You're an idiot
As soon as I found out about DIY when I was 17, I got on it
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I dunno OP, maybe you have brain damage. What was stopping you as an adult from getting it first thing?
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>>42163994
if it helps i'm the same age and i'm not on hrt
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>>42163994
i knew i was a tranny 1.5 years ago and i only just got on spiro. i feel like an idiot but equally i think I’ve gotten character growth out of it
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>>42165849
the time moved so fucking quickly; I got off my meds for six months due to a shitty psych right after my 18th bday and i kept procrastinating on it. I realised how hard I fucked up in July but it took until December to get the equipment bc I couldn't get anyone to buy crypto for me & had no id

> Red: 100% Gay Rights. Gays are fully respected and are treated as equal to straight people. However 0% Trans Right. If you're caught taking HRT or even try to crossdress, you be given the death penalty.

> Green: 100% Trans Rights. Transpeople are fully respected and can transition whenever they want and at any age, they can go to gender facility of their choice. However 0% Gay Rights. Gay Marriage is illegal, and anti-sodomy laws are around with the death penalty.
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>>42166359
>Red: 100% Gay Rights
>But also, trannies get the death penalty
My man. My bro. My dude. These are supposed to be dilemmas. You can't just post one option that's all upside.
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>>42166359
Green
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>>42166481
they are seen as women in a 100% troontopia shitciety, my dear female-to-moron brained pooner
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>>42166359
omg, instant green, i hate faggots and if the trannies are seen as women and poons as men, this would also counter troonbians and gaydens...

sry /clg/, the offer is too tempting
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Least obvious fedpost

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is this legal? can i start a new one? here's my link: https://voca.ro/14fkQzuvaW7o
the text is from the torrey peters' story "infect your friends and loved ones"
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>>42163164
you sound a bit nasal and maybe slightly strained. towards the end of your recording you sounded best, i think. and your second recording sounds much better to me! specifically when you're speaking lower. i think most of us sound better when speaking lower: you for instance sound almost cis aside from the nasality.
>>42163564
rare indubitable cis-passer :) don't worry about your pitch or tone unless you yourself don't like your voice. i think it's nice.
>a bit andro desu
andro how? honestly that's where i would most like to be. does it lean one way in particular?
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>>42163607
ty! i think this clip is better. there's quite a lot of vocal fry, and i do think you might be able to benefit from a bit more of an open resonance.

>>42163892
>andro how?
i would say it leans more towards fem andro. generally though i think it's pretty good if that's what you're going for. and ty :)
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>>42163929
>pretty good if that's what you're going for.
awesomeness..thank you also

also also BUMP
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another bump for voicegen my beloved.....maybe friends will post after work
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https://voca.ro/1cUqruQoqFuF
hello faggots i missed u.

>>42163607
hi buddy. the doctor orders u resonance & repetition!
>>42163564
pretty!
>>42162987
ur not irredeemable nona i hope u can find the peace with urself that u deserve.
>>42162888
its definitely not surgery, just more practice. ur foundation is good, if ur seeking advice then I think more practice on consistency/avoiding the "pitch dip" would help u! being able to identify it urself is already a good first step. when you notice it happening, stop what youre doing and correct it. repeat this until it goes away forever
>>42161609
hello welcome. coming here infrequently is for the best since it often can be filled with unfortunate souls. but this thread is usually more down to earth.

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when one finds a repper couple in the wild, the guy tends to be a scrawny bitch while the girl is rather on the chonkier size. it's kinda cute actually
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>>42166812
We're talking about femreppers not ftms, can you even read
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>>42166821
A femrepper is just an ftm who hasn’t transitioned yet
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>>42166837
So, not an ftm.
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>>42164938
As a repper guy, I can confirm that I wish this was true.
>t. chonky repper guy
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>>42164938
Every time I go into repgen and see femreppers talk about themselves they be like
>I'm anorexic and hate food
>I'm 90lbs and 5'1
>I have a petite feminine face

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Would you date a transbian neet who keeps your house clean, dinner on the table, lunches in the fridge, and will listen to you talk and comfort you through all your frustrations?
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bump
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>>42165057
Okay I'll stop pestering you I just don't like seeing trans women getting hurt.
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>>42164782
as much as I would love to I havent been able to get a job and after 3 years of unemployment.. I have to accept I to will be a perma neet..,. very sorry ...
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>>42167021
Hurt me
>>42167046
Its okay baby im very proud of u
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>>42167090
yay ^-^

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as an AGP like I've never been able to even believe in the concept of misogyny, cause in my mind dosen't every man want to be a pretty woman?

Like doesn't every man hate their bodies and face and want to be a cute woman with a sweet face, a small waist, thick thighs and dainty feet?

Wouldn't all wars and unhappiness on earth disappear if everyone was a cute girl, with a loving bf (nonhuman), who spent their days trying on cute dresses, organizing picnics and gossiping

Does anyone actually like being masculine? even ftms don't like being masculine
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>>42166486
>now I insist on the sex before I reach for things on high shelves or move heavy objects. It cuts down on the number of bullshit requests from coworkers
Imagine this totally employed anon going all, "You want that folder, Janice? That's a blowjob". Lmao.
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>>42166043
>Which is objectively a desirable thing for any man.
Really?
No.
They are good for looking at, but that's it.
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>>42166043
Um. Aren't you forgetting the vagina?
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>>42166031
I want both
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>>42166824
Even better. Any self-respecting straight man loves hot women. Being able to literally be a hot woman would be good, right?


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